[00:01] What is up, everybody? Chris Schroeder here with another episode of the Smart Flip with my co host, Matt Shirley.

[00:09] All right, guys, so today we have Moss Goldstein. Today. So not to be confused with Mr. Aaron Goldstein, though, or something like that.

[00:25] But guys, we wanted to. We wanted to bring him on because I think Moss has an interesting story, especially with, you know, trying to get into. To. To this, this, this industry for a little while.

[00:44] And then just overall, like, you know, he's done a great job with the. The time we've had him inside of Accelerator and everything and all while he's going to school and.

[00:54] And all sorts of stuff. So, Moss, if you want to say hey to everybody on the feed right now.

[01:01] Hello, everyone.

[01:04] All right, dude, so we're going to keep this pretty light. I'm going to ask you a couple of questions. Obviously, we want you to answer them.

[01:13] I can do that, you know, but you know what, Chris? I did not study, so, you know, that's what.

[01:18] Yeah, I didn't send you anything to, you know, any questions.

[01:22] So this is all straight out off the cuff, right? So with that being said, let's start episode seven.

[01:28] Welcome to the Smart Clip, everybody, where we help you guys learn how to start, grow and scale your electronics reselling business, phone flipping business, buyback business, whatever you have. We're going to basically share stories from students, from people in the industry and places to help you just gain a little bit more knowledge around flipping electronics so that, you know, maybe this could be your tea to, you know, growing your lifestyle and stuff like that.

[01:54] I'm gonna have to come up with a better tag on it, but, yeah, let's get started.

[01:59] All right, Moss, you know what, what did you do today, man? Ship out any items?

[02:06] Yeah, I got a package, the Steam Deck. I sold the Animal Crossing, and I sold a HTC Vive Gen 1 headset. So it's pretty amazing, though, what, Matt, Lily like the sheets.

[02:21] It's usually pretty accurate, I'm not going to lie. So shout out to you, Matt. Sold for 364 plus 10 for shipping. So it's about half of what you know, because I think, Matt, your sheet was like 350 to 400.

[02:30] So I sold about half, you know, about halfway between that. So I was pretty happy with that. So cool.

[02:38] Moss, you joined accelerator about. About 2ish years ago @ this point.

[02:43] I bought the course on 2, 10, 20, 23.

[02:47] Okay. Yeah, so I remember. I remember following up with you because you were like, I'm ready to go in January.

[02:52] I believe it was 22 and. And then you, like, didn't respond for a month.

[02:58] That's cool. Cool.

[03:00] Yeah.

[03:02] Now he was like, I'm ready to go. And then silence and gone. I was like, what's going on here? And then he. And then he reached back out in February, and he's like, all right.

[03:12] I think I had put out some more testimonials or something.

[03:16] And then I remember you started, and, you know, you were having. You were having some issues and stuff like that, and I think you started getting really doubtful that this thing actually worked.

[03:28] Can we speak a little bit to that?

[03:30] Well, in fairness, I wasn't a good student. I bought your course. I didn't do anything with it. I didn't do anything with it, Chris, because, remember, the first sale was June 22nd.

[03:38] I remember because I have it written down still. Like, I didn't do anything with your course. Like, I. I bought it. You set everything up then. I didn't do anything.

[03:47] There was school.

[03:49] February 2023.

[03:52] I bought the course on 2:10.

[03:55] I bought the course on 2 10, 2023. And then I got the first sale on June 22, 2023. And then I paid off all the debt on September 19, 2023.

[04:08] So it was about 89 days. And then I paid everything off.

[04:13] So I want to talk about that a little bit. You bought this program at that point, it was 2000, which is a little bit higher now, but you bought this program, you did nothing with it.

[04:30] And we were, you know, I was even reaching out. You know, what. What's going on? Cause we. We were actually just putting in our accountability thing at that point to make sure people did stuff.

[04:39] And then you went a little while, and then. Then you made your first sale in that June, which is like. It's like four months, right. Maybe a little bit more and some change, right?

[04:51] Yep.

[04:53] And then I think you were getting a. You were getting really doubtful. I think around June, that area, you're like, I paid all this money. I'm not making any money. You know, you.

[05:01] Like, you said you weren't doing anything, Chris.

[05:04] I actually have that number. It was 2665, so it's $2865.72. That was all the debt before I had the full sale, because, remember, I bought the course and then we were running ads, which was, again, stupid.

[05:17] I was just not a good student. I just wasn't. Because, you know, because you set up for me. I didn't really do anything with it. And that's how debt Amounts to almost three grand.

[05:26] Yeah.

[05:27] Okay.

[05:27] Just let the ads run and didn't respond to the leads. Didn't do anything.

[05:31] Yeah, yeah, it adds up when you don't do anything. It definitely adds up.

[05:36] And then I remember the conversation we were having. You were, you're basically like, man, I don't know if this is gonna work. And then I was like, let's hop on call.

[05:44] And this is around the time we brought Madden, maybe a little bit after that too. But, but we, we hopped on a call and. And you kind of, you, you vented a little bit.

[05:57] Right. And then we, we talked and then I was like, I want you to just focus on flipping game consoles. Don't even look at phones, just go all in on the consoles.

[06:10] Because that's what you were comfortable with, if I remember correctly. Like that you were super comfortable with consoles. And I was like, just do that, like do that. So after that conversation, because we definitely have a.

[06:21] Had a heart to heart. Come to Jesus meeting on that one.

[06:26] Let's talk about it, dude. Like after that meeting you started ripping.

[06:30] Yeah, it was. So I still. Actually. Obviously you've run ads for me. I haven't closed any of them yet. But still, technically, up to this day, everything's been a console flip.

[06:39] Everything's been a reach out. Only had two EP customers.

[06:44] One thing was bought through Craigslist and the rest was through Facebook. So that's been just, you know, reaching out. You know, what you guys teach. And it's been working pretty well.

[06:53] If you don't add up all the fees, ebay does because they add fees and stuff. Just like the hardcore sales, I'm about 58,000. That's basically what all this added up to.

[07:02] Now if you add the fees and everything ebay does, it's like 65, but it's just fees and stuff that they add in. But that's just the sale of the item is about 58,000 from when I first started to now.

[07:13] So, you know, I haven't hit a year yet. You know, June 22nd would be a year end. So still, you know, a month or two left until, you know, I hit the.

[07:22] Well about a month and a half. Like a month and a week until I hit the one year. So it's been kind of interesting, you know, the journey from there to now.

[07:30] So not too bad. I mean, especially being in college and everything, right?

[07:35] Well, it's more amazing guys, when you think about it. Everything but one's been through Facebook, right? The one thing was a craigslisting like six months ago. And everything has been basically a one off.

[07:49] You know, I had two repeat customers repeat once each, never heard from them again. So usually just a one off of everything. You know, I flipped pretty much a bunch of consoles that.

[08:01] Honestly, Matt, I never thought I'd even know what they were.

[08:05] I mean, I flipped the VR, you know, of the PlayStation VR 2, the one that they came out with, I flipped one of those, flipped a bunch of valve indexes, which is still good money in those.

[08:15] You can get them for cheap. But no, it's been interesting, you know, because I, because I never knew guys, I knew any of this because I didn't, like, I bought the course.

[08:22] I didn't know squat. Like, it's interesting though, Matt and Chris, when you guys like, like they like the console tab in Slack and wouldn't ask you questions like, bro, that was me.

[08:31] That was totally me. I didn't know anything. I didn't know anything. I was like. Which is crazy because now I can actually reply and help people because I've been there and I, and I know some of the answers to their questions, which is kind of crazy.

[08:42] I didn't know anything when I bought your course. I mean, you guys can contest that. I knew nothing. I knew nothing.

[08:47] Yeah, you're in my DMs daily.

[08:50] I still am nothing.

[08:54] But I mean, yeah, it was cool because there was a lot of back and forth and I think, I don't like, okay, so you're sitting there and for four plus months it's just radio silence.

[09:09] Like you're not, there's no traction.

[09:12] Like you're sitting on your hands. Like the level of confidence is massively underwhelming because I, I don't know if there was any.

[09:22] So what, what changes? Like, I mean, obviously you have the conversation with Chris and I and I get that, but that's, that's an external, that's an extrinsic motivation. Okay, what internally or intrinsically is happening that says, you know what?

[09:39] I should probably give a **** and try? Like.

[09:44] Well, well, in finance, you know, we, we learned about some cost. You know, sunk cost is basically a terminology that's like, hey, this cost has already been used, right? Like no matter what happens in the future.

[09:56] So the debt and the course, it was a sunk cost. I already paid for it. I was already in the debt. So I was like, you know, as well use it if I already paid for it.

[10:05] Because the course, guys, was a sunk cost. I already paid it. I already paid the course. It was a sunk cost. So, like, either you just do nothing with the knowledge that was presented.

[10:14] And granted, I didn't know the power of your course until I actually started doing it. And even then, you know, like, I had to, you know, I. You know, Chris, just started to, you know, get my *** really going now.

[10:25] You know, we're gonna see how that goes, you know? But, like, I didn't really know anything until I bought your course. And then I was like.

[10:34] Honestly, though, that. Chris, that really is the best way to describe. It was like a coming to Jesus moment. It was like, you know, I had a conversation with you.

[10:41] I was kind of like. I don't know if sad was the right word, guys, but it was more just like.

[10:46] Like, what am I doing? I'm like, I bought this course. I bought it for a reason, because I saw potential, but I didn't do anything with it. So I was like, you know, it's time to.

[10:54] You know, I think it was like I was in the summer because, like, June was the first sale, so it was, like, summer time just before the fall semester. And I was just like, you know what?

[11:04] I'm gonna stop making excuses for myself. I was like, no, I used excuse of school, which is important to me, and I'm close to finishing. But I was like, you know what?

[11:10] I'm just gonna use it as an excuse until I think Aaron Goldstein said, once you have to get out of your comfort zone, you gotta get out of your comfort zone to see success.

[11:18] And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna get out of my comfort zone. I'm actually gonna put this to work. Because you know what? You're never gonna know if it works or not until you do it.

[11:24] And then, sure enough, the proof is in the pudding. And I put almost 60 grand in console flips, so clearly it works. I just needed to put it into action.

[11:34] And I think you guys were awesome. You guys were there to help, and I just didn't do anything. I didn't do anything for, like, four months. So you can't expect results, guys, until you put an effort.

[11:44] I think you guys would agree on that. Not. Not just in this, but in life in general. If you don't put effort into anything, you're not going to get anything out of it.

[11:53] I agree.

[11:55] I mean, Chris talks a lot about how the nature of this business, as are a lot of things, which I think is, you know, in segue and consistent with what you're talking.

[12:02] It's. It's input output, right? I mean, imagine the results or possibilities if you simply show up daily and do the work, and that is, the results from that are remarkable.

[12:15] But the process of that is very unremarkable. And I kind of like to stage those things against one another because the world is so drawn in by the sexy nature of results.

[12:26] Oh, look at this athlete who did this or achieved this or got this or this or this entrepreneur mogul who did this. And this, this guy, he's a serial entrepreneur.

[12:35] Look at him. But like, nobody really understands. Like, until you pop the hood, you don't know what's. What's chime in and. And dialed in underneath the surface that is causing that model, that person, that system.

[12:49] Right. That individual to tick the way that they do. And you haven't even tested that theory yet. Right. Like, what was the first thing that you flipped? Do you remember?

[12:59] It was, I think it wasn't. It was an Oculus, I think. Yeah.

[13:09] Valve Quest 2 or something.

[13:12] Yeah. Because I didn't flip a Valve index actually until a couple months in. So it wasn't that. I think, I think you're right. I think it was an Oculus. If I had to guess, you probably.

[13:19] Need a little extra cash to buy one of those.

[13:21] Anyway, I was pretty. Well, you know what, though? But that was another thing that me and Chris on that conversation, I was like, you know, Chris, I'm like through going in debt.

[13:28] I was like, man, I just like, like, am I going to pay that off? And then I was like, because three grand is a lot when you're in college, you know.

[13:34] You know, because at that time I was still working and, you know, now I'm focusing on school full time, you know, because I've, you know, made enough money so I can kind of pay for classes and kind of help out with that.

[13:43] But, you know, and I remember what Chris told me. I still remember it. And you said to me, quote for quote, you can make money just on console reach outs and flipping them.

[13:53] You don't need ads. And I remember you said to me, I was like, I was like, chris, I have to run as run. I'm never going to get out of this.

[13:58] And I said that to you. And I remember your response to me was, Chris, you told me, focus on one thing first. I think it's a good thing in society to take this note too.

[14:10] Focus on one thing first. And that was the best advice you ever gave me. Like, like, get your head out of the gutter. Get your head out of the dumps.

[14:16] Pull. Pull your head up. Have confidence and go for it. And I think some of that advice was the best you gave me. And I, and I kind of ran with it.

[14:24] I was like, you know what?

[14:26] Because growing up and being mature and seeing the forest through the trees is knowing when there are mentors and great coaches like yourselves that have been there before. You have, and they're already doing what you want to be.

[14:39] So like, listen to them. They're not trying to give you bad advice. So I was like, you know what, I'm going to take that, what he told me and I ran with it.

[14:46] And you know, we just now started run ads which was prove to everyone you don't need ads right off the get go. Now granted, I do think you probably need it to scale.

[14:54] Will people want to go? But like, but I didn't really need.

[14:59] Ads for comfort, right? Like run ads to scale comfortably, right? You can, you can scale on reach outs alone, hire some people to do, reach out for you and different things like this, right?

[15:10] Like, you can do that. That's a real way to do that. But you're still going to incur cost, right? The reason, dude, I'm a lazy flipper. Like, I'll be real, I am lazy about the whole thing.

[15:23] I like it when people come to me and ask me to buy their stuff. Like that's just how I am, right? Like, but also I think it's, I think it's.

[15:33] See, I didn't really get back into reach out until Matt came, came around, right? I was against reach outs for so long until, until Matt came around and then, and then Hor Mosi had his huge webinar about, you know, how 50% of his entire business comes from cold DMS, cold reach out, cold email.

[15:53] And I was like, okay, maybe I should look into this. And you know, you know, I mean a Matt knows that whenever I, you know, set my eyes on something, I learn how to do it insanely fast.

[16:07] Just how I work, I just, I zone in on one thing. Which is why I told you focus on one thing. Like if you can focus on that one thing, you can actually apply the experience you gave from focusing on that one thing into the next area of your life, right?

[16:22] Because let's be real Moss, can you do, can you do 120 reach outs every single day per year? Like is that possible for you?

[16:31] I mean, I mean, I guess it would depend how much time you have in a day.

[16:38] That's why we run ads.

[16:40] I mean, yeah, I mean, I guess if I wasn't in college, Chris and Matt maybe, but like, but Something I also love what you teach where you were like, you gotta have a meetup method.

[16:48] Because guys, I drove to everyone and you know what, And I think something Chris, you said where you were like something I very much agree with you on is what you teach her.

[16:56] Like do two time meetup a day. You set two times. And granted we're gonna see how that plays out because you know, I haven't started doing that right. Since like because I, you know, because you start running the ads.

[17:08] But I'm curious to see how that ends up right, you know, like, because I haven't closed the deal yet right. From the ads, you know, still work in progress, still trying to learning, trying to get better at that.

[17:16] But you gotta apply the same knowledge you learned from the reach outs to the ad though. It's. It's transition of knowledge. Now you. Now the crazy thing is you can use a schedule meetup model on reach out to like I 100 do that by the way.

[17:31] Oh, somebody on a reach out. Like for example, we're. I did this the other day with a.

[17:37] What was it? Oh, an Oculus Oculus Rift S. Actually I reached out style was priced like 40 bucks.

[17:47] So we already know that's money, right?

[17:50] Yeah, super money. Right. Anyway, I saw it was priced really low already and I reached out. I was like, hey, I'll buy this today. I'll be meeting people here at 12 and 5.

[17:59] Which time works best for you? I'll pay you $5 for gas to deliver it. $5 in gas to deliver it for me.

[18:05] You know what happened?

[18:06] It showed up.

[18:07] They delivered it.

[18:08] They delivered it.

[18:10] Thank you.

[18:12] Once again. Lazy flipper, right? I try to find the easiest way to, to meet the most people at.

[18:17] Once, but it's the only way to do it. Like, I mean like there's been days where I've driven a lot in the past and I just realized with school, Chris, I'm at work and you know, doing school full time and I'm close to being done at this point.

[18:30] I'm just like, I don't have time to do that. And, and you know what? It is too, Chris, you said it yourself. Why am I going to do all this extra work?

[18:38] I just pay you five extra bucks. Can you come to me? Like that's a no brainer. Like, I mean, like that's a no brainer. That's just smart, smart business.

[18:46] Come get your money. You know you want your money. Here it is. Come on, bring it here. Got you.

[18:53] I mean like, you know.

[18:56] Yep.

[18:57] I mean, I Think well. And also something too that, like, I learned from Matt also was.

[19:02] I mean, kind of learned it from, like all the coaches. You guys kind of all say it the same, just in different phrases. People like money, right? People like money.

[19:09] People want money. They want it fast. And they want to know you are reliable and you're not going to screw them or flake on them. And that is the biggest things I've learned even from just only doing reach outs.

[19:20] People want to know they can get their cash. Can you meet today? Can you do it quickly, safe and efficient? And that is something that I have learned from all you coaches.

[19:29] You know, you guys say the same kind of verbiage and that just maybe said it suddenly differently, but pretty much you guys all kind of say that, which is true, right?

[19:38] Because, like, if you don't have one of those components, they flake on you. They don't, you know, they want me up to you.

[19:44] Yeah.

[19:44] Like, and I think you guys have this too. Sometimes it's so hard to get them to trust you. They're like, like, man, like, my past experience was bad. I had one person tell me that they were like, last person tried to rob me.

[19:53] And they were like, they're like, well, how do you know you're not going to do the same? And I'm like, well, I mean, you're in a public place, like I always do.

[19:58] I met up with them and I bought the item from them, you know, I mean, because I think sometimes it's like in business how you make people feel and how you can come across to them as a.

[20:08] I'm a genuine person. That's also something that Chris, that you teach, that I also like being genuine, being completely honest. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But more often than not, honesty in business, it does work.

[20:21] So I want to ask a question.

[20:23] You're in college, obviously you talk about this a lot. You talk about, like, the marketing stuff that I do and that we do for accelerator and just different things like that.

[20:34] And you compare it to. I can't remember what you're all in school for. I think it's business. Right.

[20:39] I'm a finance major.

[20:41] But I think I'm assuming you've had some marketing classes.

[20:44] I had one, and I'm. One of my electives I'm in right now. Personal selling. I'm in it right now.

[20:49] So how does. How does, like, what you learn marketing wise and accelerator compare with what you're learning in college? I'm. I'm a little curious. I'm in college.

[21:01] It'S a. Well, I compare it a lot because that's what I'm in. So like I'm not a marketing major, I'm a finance major. I'm getting my bachelor's in that maybe go for my masters.

[21:09] But as this moment, I took one marketing class. It was like an introduction class that every business major takes. And then the personal selling one I'm in right now, which is more interesting than that.

[21:20] That is one of the electives a lot of people take. This is one of the easier ones. It's like restricted ones you have to take and it's one of the easier ones.

[21:27] But. But the main difference is like between those two marketing classes because you know this business is a lot of marketing and you know, ads and all that. But they're more teaching you off of the basis of getting a job.

[21:43] Like that's more what it is. Like they have entrepreneurship classes you can take. I'm actually taking one elective. Actually there's somewhere in it. So I'll let you know how that goes.

[21:54] But. But the marketing is more based on getting a job. More cloffer based. The first one I took, this one, the personal selling one I'm in now, it's kind of along the same lines of they're not really more for running your own business.

[22:11] Like I will honestly say the first one I took, the introduction one, it was more like for corporate. It wasn't really for like running your own business is the easiest way to put it really wasn't like more corporate world.

[22:25] Like you know what, like nine to five. That's really what the first one was. The personal selling one I'm in now, that one is more towards like. So like for example, the first week was like pitching yourself to like an employer.

[22:39] Right? Again, getting a job that's not like running your own business.

[22:44] So that you got to understand that to understand what you're learning. It's not an entrepreneurship class, nothing to really do with that. Entrepreneurship classes, if you want that you gotta go take them at ucf.

[22:55] But just the marketing classes I'm in, they're geared towards more corporate and getting a job, even some in sales. But you're still working for someone. So they're not really like what you guys are doing or like what I'm trying to do.

[23:10] It's really chores, more like just corporate and things like that.

[23:15] Interesting that entrepreneur. There's an entrepreneurship class that's so interesting to me.

[23:20] Yeah, there's a whole. There's not. There's not a major at my university on it. I know some do. Like my friend who's at USF in Tampa. Yes. They have a whole, she's getting a degree, a bachelor's in entrepreneurship.

[23:32] There's a whole course. They have whole course and I have a whole, they have a whole degree on it.

[23:37] The thing about entrepreneurship is not like class, right. Entrepreneurship is actually like doing in the market, in the marketplace. It's very interesting because I, you know, I went to college, I learned some of this stuff.

[23:50] I apply almost none of it now, which is wild.

[23:54] Like, like looking. Luckily I got enough Scott. I was able to market myself well enough to get enough scholarships to go to college for free. Right now, not knocking anybody out there that's paying for college.

[24:04] I just did it in a different way and I worked my *** off.

[24:07] That's expensive.

[24:08] Yeah, it's expensive, right? Yeah, I marketed myself insanely well. But I, it's very interesting to me.

[24:19] You know, one thing me and Matt actually were looking into about a week and a half ago was, you know, we got a lot of students that are using the phone flipping, the, the electronics flipping to pay for their college.

[24:32] And what's super interesting about that is the, some of the majors that they were going for, if they would have just stuck with the electronics, they would have been making more than they would have outside out of college.

[24:47] Which is absolutely amazing to me. Like we were, we were, I was literally sitting down doing like the math. Jared is a great example of this. Jared was going for an engineering degree and he graduated and he doesn't use the engineering degree now.

[25:04] He's really smart though.

[25:05] He is insanely smart.

[25:07] He's really smart and he, he's not.

[25:10] Using his engineering degree, he's not getting a job in engineering. He, he, he makes, you know, six or seven grand profit per month and has started his own coaching company at this point helping people ace the sat.

[25:27] And he's, you know, he's making way more doing that than he would have his engineering degree. But he also would have made the same amount or more just flipping electronics, which is mindful.

[25:40] I mean, six to seven thousand dollars a month. You know, there's many months where you did over 10 as well.

[25:46] 10.

[25:47] It's one of those things that's like, that's very interesting to me.

[25:52] I was actually doing the math on how many six figure flippers we have this morning and no, still not done with that. But I was just kind of putting together a list of like, what are the, are the daily things those guys do to make that happen.

[26:05] And what's funny is, like, we. We talked about it a little bit earlier is it's those boring, unsexy things that just move the needle forward every single day over a long enough time rise.

[26:16] They just add up, right?

[26:19] Yeah. I mean, one of the questions that me and Matt, you know something too, I feel like Matt's almost like my brother at this point.

[26:26] Like, we've talked about a lot more, just not about business sometimes just like, about life and like where we want to go. And we were asking just recently Matt, I think it was like a couple days ago, and one of the questions that he asked was, absent, graduate, where do you want to go?

[26:38] Like, like, what do you plan on doing? And I thought about it and then I was like, well, you know, you know, I have, you know, at one point I was over ten grand pure profit.

[26:48] And then I bought Felton's course, which for anyone who doesn't know, he. He teaches another course about fixing and fixing electronics and like iPhones and all that. And I bought.

[27:01] Yeah, yeah, and interesting course. I've, you know, I've gone through all the courses. Really interesting. So I bought that. Not in the position to buy the machines because some are more expensive than others, but, like, down the line, you know, I thought about Matt's question.

[27:18] I was like, you know what? I bought that course close back up to the ten grand profit place I was before I bought that course. And, you know, we're going to ads here.

[27:28] Well, already doing that, you know, you know, power to you, Chris. You're really smart with that, you know your stuff and you help me with that. And, you know, I probably will be working 9 to 5 originally because, you know, most finance people end up in corporate.

[27:41] A lot of them do. And, you know, I told Matt that I'd like to have a family one day. Like to have kids, you know, have a wife, have, you know, like, like what you guys all have.

[27:50] And you know, I spent tons of times with them because you're not looking for the man. You work for yourself. And for sure, you know, like, I could see myself in the future getting my own place when I graduate, like getting those machines along with ads.

[28:02] And, you know, that's, you know, I'm hoping that, you know, I'll be six figures one day. You know, that would, that would be the goal, you know, like, that would be something amazing, a goal to hit for, you know, you can't quit a job until your business is sustaining your expenses.

[28:15] But that'd be why I want to go One day, you know, I think I'm going to get there. You know, something that Aaron Goldstein taught. Taught. I think Aaron taught on a.

[28:24] One of the weekly calls on Thursday. He teaches, I think was like, the first one or the second one Chris, you had him do, and he was like, you don't get instant results.

[28:34] He goes, there is no. Just. You flip a switch and boom, you get nothing but success. I can contest to that. Like, you don't just automatically get success by doing nothing or by.

[28:45] In a day, you get all the success. You don't become an Aaron Goldstein or Matt Shirley or Chris, and like, a day, it doesn't happen. Success does take time, right?

[28:55] Like, I think the only person who probably flips more than me is probably Bill, and he's.

[29:01] We need to bring Bill on this, too.

[29:04] Bill just flips. Like, you know what I wanted, though, guys. He was actually my, like, model. Like, he was you. Matt and Bill were my mentors. It came to flipping consoles because all the wins I kept single from YouTube.

[29:15] So I was like, you know what? I gotta get on this. I gotta, like, be one of.

[29:19] Bill was in the same position you were, dude. He was in that analysis paralysis, like, area for. Dude, I don't even know how long.

[29:26] Like, yeah, months. For months.

[29:29] Like, same kind of thing, man.

[29:32] The same thing. I was like, dude, if you, like the consoles and the VR, just do that. Like, if that's what you, like, just freaking go, you know? And that.

[29:41] It was almost like another you that happened in that moment. It was. He was like, okay, that's what I'll do.

[29:49] And. And that's all he focused on was. Was, you know, and he's in New York, you know, like New York City.

[29:56] Expensive.

[29:58] Expensive. Yeah.

[30:01] You know, he's absolutely crushed it. Absolutely crushed it. And I, you know, he's got some other stuff working now, like, where he's getting people to ship him consoles and VR heads.

[30:11] I think he's. Is he only doing VR, Matt? I think you talk with him more than I do.

[30:16] No, Bill. Bill and I talked a week ago, and Bill had. He saved up a nice little stack, a chunk of change to start to scale his business handsomely and not have to, like, worry about the repercussions of still needing to bring in money.

[30:31] And since he saved that, he's. He's pivoting. He's pivoting to where he's not just going to be chasing deals, he's going to have deals coming to him. And so he's.

[30:39] I think he's doing the wise thing, he's cultivating the heart. The like. If there's a muscle that's weak, he's making it stronger now by focusing on ads and turning. He's not turning.

[30:50] I think the reach outs off. But what he's going to do is now he's going to have like, he's going to have two channels of, you know, so. So two.

[30:59] Two portions of the dam are going to open and be, you know, have things funneling towards him as opposed to just the one. And I think he's being really smart about that.

[31:06] And to people listening to this, you hear the name Bill. Bill will probably be on the show here in a bit. But Bill's. Bill's probably saved the most impressive amount of income of anybody I know yet.

[31:17] Him and maybe one other student I recently talked to. But, like, we're not just talking about like five or ten grand either. I mean, we're talking about like stacks. And you know, it's just been a.

[31:28] It's just been one year of diligence. But I mean, look at you too, Moss. Like in roughly just shy of a year's time, you've sold almost $60,000 worth of consoles.

[31:42] You basically went from couch to 60k in less than 12 months, which the success of that cannot be denied. I mean, like, that is.

[31:54] That. That is all credit to you because the thing that Chris and I can do is we can teach the concepts, we can get access to the curriculum, we can show people and tell them to trust the process.

[32:06] But whether people actually choose to do the work or not is completely up to the person. And I think it's interesting too, you know, and Chris, I know you resonate with.

[32:14] This is like you talked about, Moss, like, people are looking for the shortcut and doing like, the process is the shortcut. Like, that is ultimately the thing that is going to pay you.

[32:29] It's the. It's the mental lock. It's okay. I am dialed into this space. I know that this is my process. This is the workflow. This is what I need to do to accomplish X, Y and Z.

[32:40] And if I do that consistently, day in and day out, I'm going to see the result. And if I do that long enough, I'm not just going to see a result.

[32:48] I'm going to see a result that's going to change my life. It's going to reframe how I see things. It's going to completely revolutionize my confidence, and it's going to utterly alter my perception of what I'm Capable of that is something you can't put a price on because that can translate over to anything.

[33:10] It doesn't have to be flipping. It could be anything, right? And when a man realizes, I think internally, like, yo, I'm. There's a part of me that when that gear gets going, like, I'm a force.

[33:22] Like, I can do this. I cannot just do this. I can do this for a long time, and I can.

[33:28] I can make a massive difference.

[33:32] That I don't know, man. That's a. That's a drug that I don't. I don't know that anything else can touch. Like, I don't even know how to talk about that on a level of, like, can't make me, like, passionate or hyped or psyched for other people.

[33:44] Like, I think that's the thing that I get stoked for, like, to. To watch you go not from, like, couch to 60K, but to be like, yeah, man, I made two grand this weekend and.

[33:56] Cause I know you flip. You had a weekend where you flipped over, like, $2,400 in, like, one weekend, and you were like, to date. This is a testament of, like, the most that I've ever flipped in, like, a singular, like, weekend.

[34:06] Like, I remember, like, kind of the pronouncement or how you posted it.

[34:10] Cool.

[34:10] But I was just like, I'm, like, looking at this going, oh, look, that. We'll put a little. Put a little gold star by that one.

[34:15] Boop.

[34:16] You know what I mean? Because you can't unsee those results and not somehow. Like, it just takes all this internal furniture in your mind and your heart or your soul, and it just goes with, like, the way the world likes to take that and suppress it and push it down or, like, say, just work a job, you know, just.

[34:36] Just go to work for the man. It's like, dude, you can't go to work for the man after, like, making two grand on a weekend.

[34:43] Like, did that not mess you up in the best way? Moms talk about it. Like, talk about how some of the gains you've made financially have reframed mental. Like, your mental.

[34:52] Your mindset.

[34:53] Well, that. That weekend you're talking about, because I've had some two grand, but that record one, I think, was, like, 20.

[35:01] I have to have to go back and find it. But it was like, 24, five.

[35:06] It was around. I think it was just north of that, I think, because I remember, like, what you were taught. It was, like, a crazy weekend. It was like, I flipped, like, 2,500 I think or something.

[35:15] There's a couple stacks of consoles, which is like for phone flippers I could get. But like, come on, that's just dope. That's just dope.

[35:26] Yeah, it was, I mean like there was a, there was a week span and you guys noticed I posted and slapped people. Like, I bought seven valve indexes in like 10 day span.

[35:35] I had seven of them.

[35:37] That is some product, by the way.

[35:39] For those of you listening, that's gratuitous and awesome. Like all in the same. I love it. Yeah.

[35:45] So Chris, you don't know this, but I actually sent Matt the screenshot from the Excel. I had it and I told him. I was like, man, I made a lot less than I thought and I still made two grand and I made less on that than I thought I should have made.

[35:59] Yeah, but it didn't matter, right? I mean, that's, I think that's the thing is like within that method and for those listening, like within the method of like reselling and I'm talking about from what Chris teaches to what I teach, there's, there is room for error.

[36:12] You know, we're not going to present this. Like, this is watertight. Like, we have all made mistakes. It's just that when the mistakes become learning opportunities. And also like when you're not stuck in like scarcity mindset anymore, you realize like, oh, okay, I flipped that and I only made 40%.

[36:28] I flipped that and I made 60%. I probably could have done 80, 80 or like a hundred, but it's okay because there's always another item to flip. And if you're buying at the right price, you.

[36:41] It's really hard to like screw this up if you're following the process.

[36:46] Like, I mean, as I told you, man, I got like five Meta Quest pros still sitting in my room, which is not good. I kind of want them sold. But, but it's interesting because you guys teach something interesting.

[36:57] You guys teach everything.

[36:59] The profit is made on the buy.

[37:02] That is true. It really is true. Like, I mean like the, the four quest pros, I bought all 400 each. I bought them for all 400 each. And you know, it's been taking a little bit to sell.

[37:11] I'm still trying to get through that. But I know I won't lose money. I know I won't lose money because of how you guys teach it and the price sheets.

[37:17] And once you do it enough like, like you guys talk about, you start to get the feel of the price. You get the feel of, okay, what it's going to sell for.

[37:24] But that goes back. But what? Like Aaron said, you don't become an Aaron Goldstein in a day. I see Aaron again, the Facebook, remember, He was like, I made 32 grand in this month.

[37:38] That's unheard of to me. Some people don't even make that in like 10 months or nine months. That's crazy to me.

[37:47] But I remember though, Matt, we were talking privately. I remember you said, well, that's. Well, maybe it was Chris, it was one of you two who were like, you don't do that every month, though.

[37:58] You're not going to do that every month. You're not going to do that even every other month. Maybe once a year. Once in a blue moon, you do that. Right?

[38:05] That's not.

[38:06] With Aaron.

[38:07] I had that.

[38:08] I had a call with Aaron on that and I was asking him, like, how many conversations did it take to actually get to that deal? And he was like, about 30,000.

[38:17] Like, right. That takes time.

[38:20] It does.

[38:22] Like there, there's a, there's a time aspect and just a daily repetition aspect. Part of that where you will get like amazing deals like that every now and then. And you know, but it won't be, you know, it's not as common as most people think, but you can, you know, during those times, in between those massive wins, that's basically lottery ticket wins, right?

[38:46] You, you're doing these little bitty things, you know, just, you know, the reach outs every day, the responding to the leads, the following up with your leads, the tracking your numbers, all of these little things, they just add up over time, right?

[38:59] You know, Alex Ra talks about, he's like, it's all just the, it's not one silver bullet. It's all the golden BBs, right, where you just, you know, you do the same thing every single day for an insane amount of time.

[39:12] And just by default, you can't lose, right? Like if you just do it long enough, you're going to win no matter what. And that's just really. I think that's what most people don't realize about this business.

[39:23] Like, they come in and they might have, you know, one or two really good days and then they don't. And then they have three bad days and they're giving up on the business, right?

[39:31] Which it's because of their training, right? It's because they're used to a job, they're going in, they're getting the same results every day. We expect that to translate over to entrepreneurship, where entrepreneurship is very up and down.

[39:45] Like, you can have. You know, there's a. What we call. You know, it's just like this, like it's a freaking roller coaster. Right. But if you continue doing the. Just the same actions every day that you would basically do at your job, just do it here.

[40:00] Yeah. The result won't be the same thing every single day, but over time you will just incrementally get better and you'll make money and you'll get better and then you'll make more money and then you get better and then it's just a constant like gain skills, make more money.

[40:14] Gain skills, make more money skills again.

[40:17] Like that's all you actually know. I. I told Matt once was crazy to me, right. I went from being almost through grand in debt with nothing to show for it. Right.

[40:26] And I fast forward not even again.

[40:29] June 20th sec. 22nd of this year will be one year that, you know, I've had my first sale. Right. And it's crazy why I told Matt once. I even. It still blows my mind to be honest.

[40:39] Like no ads, nothing on ads. Basically no VP business only. Anything. Basically everything through Facebook. And, and basically I'm like, I have people reaching out to me through Slack who join and they'll ask me console questions.

[40:51] Which is crazy because I didn't know anything when I started. Right. I mean honestly, I think I talked to Matt more than his wife and kids did. Especially in the beginning.

[41:01] I was like, I was like, honestly, I think I test Matt at like 9pm and be like, matt, I have a good deal. But like, I don't know what this is.

[41:08] Can you tell me what this is? It'd be like 9:00am Matt, I have another deal. Can you tell me what this is? And I think I, I think I was in his life more than anyone else was at one point.

[41:18] It was, it was like that for at least 90 days. I. I could probably sell. It was like, it was very consistent. And then, you know, you had questions. I get it.

[41:27] Yeah. And so people would reach out to me on Slack and they'd ask me questions about consoles. I actually wouldn't know the answer to them because I flipped enough and you know, fast forward to yeah, you know, fast forward to like a year or almost a year in it.

[41:41] And it's been pretty interesting to see what I've learned, you know. And something else too I think is so important that you guys teach is two concepts I think are most important.

[41:50] One, consistency. You got to have consistency.

[41:53] I totally agree with you guys on that. You can't just go take A hiatus and expect to be just as good. It's not how it looks.

[41:59] Yeah, for sure.

[42:00] Yeah. You know, and, and Chris, you talk about the pillows and Matt, you talk about the families, right? Even within consoles there is still stuff I have not flipped in consoles.

[42:09] Actually quite a bit of them actually. On your price sheets. No, I flipped like, you know, like, you know, one G cloud, one valve in one of Steam deck, you know, a couple Xboxes, you know, a few PlayStations, you know, there's a bunch of other stuff on your prices I haven't even flipped or seen before.

[42:26] But what's crazy is that saying that I'm still almost at 60,000, right? And that's no ads. Like, that's no ads. That's purely just me busting butt.

[42:40] Hopefully everyone who watches this call. Me and Matt was like, we talked once and we were like, I sourced three times a day even in school, full time. Not so much now because I have too much inventory.

[42:49] I'm trying to sell it. So not so much now, but. But fair.

[42:54] That's fair.

[42:54] Yeah. I still have too much. You guys have seen those pictures though. Some of those pictures were crazy. Some of those pictures were like ridiculous. I didn't think I was looking at pictures like that.

[43:03] But I need to sell, bro. Sell, sell, sell.

[43:06] Yeah, I'm getting there. I'm getting there. Only got 20.

[43:09] I'm getting there. Trust me, I'm trying. But I remember Matt was like, you gotta learn the families, right? Even when you were like AMOS system consoles, right? That's hard. Easier said than done.

[43:20] It really is, right? Even within the families, within the families of Xboxes, you know how many versions there are and how many special editions there are and stuff, you still got to learn that and different versions of that.

[43:31] And you are right when it comes to pillows.

[43:35] And I always love your postings when you're like, if you're not flipping consoles, like all just the phone flippers, you're missing out. I always think they'll reverse. I'm only flipping consoles.

[43:44] So I'm like, man, what am I missing out on? Because I see everyone flipping phones and iPads and MacBooks and all that. Chris. I'm like, man, what am I missing out on?

[43:52] I think I'm missing out on.

[43:54] That's fair. Oh yeah, 100% you are.

[43:57] I mean, to be said when you know, like, like it really just comes down to knowledge, right? Like when you, when you spend 20 hours, you basically become proficient in most things, right?

[44:08] Whenever you spend 20 hours of dedicated time on one specific thing. So let's say you do that on MacBooks. Right. It doesn't honestly take that long to learn a MacBook.

[44:16] Like. Like we actually have an entire speed in recelarator that actually breaks it all down and makes it easy. Right. All the way down to where we source it to how to list it.

[44:27] Right. So and that's that. And that's a testament to Accelerator. Accelerator is simply just a way to basically knock down those 20 hours and just give you the information. Right.

[44:40] That way you don't have to go through the trial and error making that happen.

[44:44] Which is what Matt does with console family. Right. Like that's the same. It's the same process. We just. Instead of. But you still have. I think this is where. Where most people don't realize like what's necessary is they're like, okay, well I could just learn this on my own.

[45:03] You could. 100. It'll take 20 hours to get proficient at it after he comes after that. Can you spend 20 hours learning this one thing most people can't. Let's be real.

[45:15] Like most people tick tock generation.

[45:18] They.

[45:18] They're gone. They're. This is what happens, right?

[45:22] Yeah.

[45:22] You know, and that's. That's where like the compressed information comes from. With. With, you know, a program like this is we just compress everything very quickly into something like Matt has with.

[45:35] With the console family price sheets where it's like, hey, here's this thing. I've flipped this before. I've made money off of this. Literally. That's what Matt does. Right?

[45:44] Here is where it's at in the market. Here's what I recommend buying it for. And that is. I mean, how does it get much better than right now? The thing with consoles is they do take a little bit longer.

[45:55] So they do.

[45:56] Okay.

[45:57] That's not however, the inverse of that. Yes, they take longer to sell, but you're probably going to make more profit than you would off of a phone. Right? Because phones Phone sells every four seconds on eBay.

[46:11] Right.

[46:11] That's crazy.

[46:12] Might be every two seconds now.

[46:14] That was like three years ago. Right. So.

[46:17] But the more things you have more knowledge about in terms of devices, the more money that you can make. And the crazy thing is, is like once you learn more about certain devices, you.

[46:28] You can apply that knowledge to learn more about other devices. Like, you know, I. I bought all kinds of weird stuff and I learned about that weird stuff because I bought it and then I sold it and then I saw something similar like a fish finder or GPS Right.

[46:42] Like, I was like, oh, hey, this thing was.

[46:47] I'm gonna try and flip that now. And then you make, like, 300 in profit. Oh, well, now I know how to flip those, too. You know, it's a, like, learning process.

[46:56] Yeah. Like, I mean, like, I definitely, like, say, for me, I don't know how Bill felt, but, like. Like, I never thought I'd be in the position I am, you know, like.

[47:04] Like, guys asked me on a podcast, man, like, from where I started, I didn't think that was even a thing. Right. Like, I really didn't even think what I would be doing now was even possible.

[47:12] You know, you asked me on a podcast talking about consoles, which is crazy, because I didn't do anything for four months, which is true. I didn't. I didn't do anything.

[47:20] And now I'm on a podcast talking about it. Hopefully help people out. You know, in Slack, people ask me about console questions, and I. You know, I love to answer them.

[47:29] It's crazy. And I think I said to Matt, I was like, I think I'm, like, in the top five people who flip consoles. And Matt was like, you're probably in the top two or three.

[47:38] He's like. He's like. Because he's like. Matt's like, well, I'm a coach, and I don't do it, like. Like hardcore every day. And he's like, Bill is. You know, he's like, probably you and Bill, top two or three, whatever, you know.

[47:52] You know, somewhere in there, which is crazy to think about, you know, if you're 1, 2, or 3 or like, wherever. I am in that list. I'm even disgusting that list.

[48:01] Because I wasn't even a discussion. I wasn't even a thing in that. I was just like. I was a nobody. If I'm being honest with myself, I was a nobody.

[48:08] I wasn't doing anything. I was just like. I had a course.

[48:11] It looked good. You know, kind of like, like, with Felton, I bought it looked good. Seems a lot of potential in it. But, you know, But Felton says the same thing you guys say I took.

[48:21] You know, when I. First thing, I bought the course, I humped on the first call weekly. I think it was like Wednesday or Thursday. And he said the same thing.

[48:27] He goes, guys, I don't. He said this. He goes, I don't want anyone coming to me and saying, this course doesn't work if you are not putting in work. He goes, if you are not going through the course, you're not learning it.

[48:37] You're not like, like you're not doing progress. He goes, of course you're not going to make any progress if you're not doing any. And he was pretty honest. And.

[48:45] Oh, yeah. One of the first things I do whenever somebody tells me that something isn't working, I log into their course progress and If I see 5%, bro, like, what? You can't even say that unless it's at 100.

[48:57] Like, what, you meant 80, right?

[49:00] Had somebody say that to me a while, a while back.

[49:04] And they were like, man, this thing just. This isn't working for me. And I'm like, well, how far away, how far through the program are you? And they were like, I'm probably almost done.

[49:13] And I logged in and they were at like 30.

[49:16] I'm like, bro, this thing says you're at 30. Is that true or is my system lying to me?

[49:23] And they were like, oh, my bad. All right, I'll come back when I'm done. Once they were done, they're like, that was amazing, right? So it's, it's one of those things where it's like.

[49:33] And you know, it's. It's very interesting to me because whenever I, Whenever I buy a program, right? Like, I go through it really fast usually.

[49:44] One thing I didn't realize was it's like paying for college classes, right? I paid for the college class. I'm gonna go, right? What I realized in college was some people would pay for the class and then not go.

[49:57] And I was like, wait, what?

[50:01] Right?

[50:02] So I applied the same stuff whenever I started buying courses and things from people and learning, you know, alternative ways of doing stuff. And like, I just thought that was the way it was supposed to be.

[50:11] You pay for this thing, you go through 100. Like, that's. I thought that was a trade off, right? What I've. What I've found to realize, especially once I created my own thing, what, most people don't finish your program.

[50:21] Actually, about 90% of people don't finish the program.

[50:24] Which is crazy to me though, Chris. Like, if you're gonna buy something, shouldn't you, like, like, to be honest with you, I'm in college classes. I just paid. This is shoe, by the way.

[50:31] So I don't care if anyone hears this. I paid for no, 14, 15 credits and it was about close to three grand. It was a lot of money. So like, chris, am I gonna blow off my classes?

[50:43] Because I paid almost three grand for them. Oh, course I'm not going to do that. That's a lot of money. Chris, that's a lot of money. Just not to go to classes, blow them off.

[50:51] Like, not do well, not bus, but not study. Chris, that's stupid. That's a lot of money. Just not to do anything.

[50:58] I mean, why'd you do it for four months, Moss?

[51:05] Just messing with your dog? That was a question you got off the bench. That's cool. I think, you know, it's potential energy versus kinetic energy, right?

[51:15] People talk a lot about potential. I used to joke around, like, have this inside joke with myself because I was a good soccer player growing up, and I tried basketball, but I would always get the coaches award, which for me was like, tries hard but still fails to really succeed award.

[51:31] And if you at some point are listening to this and you got the coach's award, I'm not trying to undermine you. Get out of your feels, you crazy person. Listen to this.

[51:38] But I got the coaches award. And I was like, thanks, you guys just said that because I tried hard and was nice.

[51:45] But anyways, here's what I think is interesting, and I think that this. This, like, is suggestive of something that both of you have mentioned, is like, there's a discipline to not doing stuff, too.

[51:59] There's a discipline to quitting things. There's a discipline to buying stuff and not seeing, like, the.

[52:07] The full fruit of it born in your life as a result of inaction or just being passive in the way that you approach things. Passivity, as much as a discipline as action is, I think people fail to realize if you take that discipline that is currently careening downhill and you flip it on its head, in a lot of ways, you're exercising the same muscle, except now you're going uphill, not downhill.

[52:36] Right. And I don't think a lot of people realize, like, you have to try just as hard to not try in some ways as you do to actually try.

[52:45] And it often just kind of like baffles or behooves me as to why people can't seem to understand. Like, no, the reason that you don't try is because that is.

[52:55] That is what you woken up every day, gone to the gym of your mind or your heart every day, and you have flexed that over and over and over again.

[53:05] So that is what owns the narrative in your brain. That is what's telling you, oh, I'm, you know what? Probably can't make this work. Oh, it probably works for Chris Schroeder or Moss Goldstein, but it's not going to work for me.

[53:17] Oh, like the absolute best way to punch all of that in the teeth is just take action, prove yourself wrong and do the thing.

[53:27] Yeah.

[53:29] Anybody listening to this? That's what you need to do.

[53:32] Like, I would also say it was also interesting because like, because like I like, like I had. So David Kiosco. I know you guys know who they is. Most people don't, but.

[53:42] Yep.

[53:43] But David Kiosco, since I was Aaron's cousin, which was kind of nice, had I got a lot of benefits being his cousin. So I got Aaron's course for free. I got David scores for free because.

[53:54] Because I'm related to Aaron. So that was kind of nice. So thank you, Aaron, for being my cousin.

[54:01] But. But in between.

[54:03] Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[54:04] Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. When did, when did that happen? When did you get that?

[54:08] That was, that was when I was a client success director.

[54:13] I don't think, I don't think I was the one that gave access, but I think it was just. I think. No, no, Aaron was trying to get you and help you out.

[54:21] He was David Kiosco. He told me, he told me personally he gave it to me for free because I was related to Aaron, so.

[54:29] So that was kind of nice.

[54:31] So apparently being Aaron's cousin, you get free stuff, so.

[54:34] Well, I'm not here.

[54:36] I'm not Aaron's cousin.

[54:39] So I got his course for free. And then Aaron, for everyone who doesn't know, he had his own, he gave me that for free. And I had other ones I bought in between that that people don't know.

[54:48] I forgot what they were, but they were like legendary phone flipping or something like that. So like other ones I bought in between that. Then obviously I bought yours and I built and I bought Feltons.

[54:57] I can honestly say though yours and Feltons duly do set aside all the other ones. Like it does surpass them. Like they all better coming from a person who spent some money on other courses I have, I can contest.

[55:09] Yeah, I've got a couple free ones in there, but I've also bought some myself, like yours, Felton's and a couple other ones in there since like 2018, I think. So it's been about six years.

[55:18] I bought in some other courses and they're not the same. They are not like, they're just not. I'm not telling you guys because I'm friends with you guys. Like, like it's true.

[55:25] Like I've tried them, done more scams. People don't give a **** about you. Like just saying it like it is. You guys and Felton do I feel like yours and Felton is a different.

[55:34] Because you do feel the love. You do feel like we are genuinely trying to help you. And if you don't, it's on you. Like. Like, I was in class in really hard finance course, like, one of the hardest core ones.

[55:43] The teacher looked at the skies and was like, look, you were here because you guys are trying to get this degree. This is a hard class, and I'm going to teach it the best I can.

[55:51] But he said, kind of like what you guys say, I'm going to give you all the tools. He goes, I'm going to give you PowerPoints and et cetera, et cetera.

[55:58] You know, I'm after class. You can come. You know, I can help you after my office hours. He's really like, I'm going to do everything I can to help you pass.

[56:04] But he goes, if you do nothing, you are going to fail. You go, you're gonna fail, because if you do nothing, you're gonna fail. And that's kind of how I look at it.

[56:12] Like, like, like with those four months, you're like, you didn't do anything. You're right, I didn't do anything. And I failed. I failed because I didn't do anything. Like, in life, if you do nothing, you get in what you good at, right?

[56:22] I think you guys all agree on that. Your input is your output. You do garbage, you get garbage. You put in a lot of work, like you, Aaron and Tyler and Felton, or you get.

[56:31] Or Kayla, you guys get great results because you put in the work. I guarantee you, Chris, maybe you were like me when you start and you're like, you know, I didn't think I'd be where I am today.

[56:41] Like, I look at you guys as my mentors. I still do, you know, almost like family to me at this point, because you guys have helped me so much in life that college professors really don't do.

[56:49] That's the difference. I feel like when you buy yours course and Felton's, you get, like, connections and people who care, and you get people who truly do want to help you.

[56:58] But you guys are also real. Like, you're not going to get. You're not going to get Aaron results in a day. Can you guys all become him? Of course you can.

[57:05] Of course.

[57:06] Anyone can become a Chris, a Tyler, a Matt, an Aaron. But you're going to put a lot of work into it. You're not going to get that on the first day.

[57:13] Like, if you are, then you need. Then you're in the wrong profession. Like, like that's not the business for you. You know, go get like rich quick schemes or something.

[57:21] See, there's a, there's something that I like to point out. You can either, you can either put in the time or you can put in the effort, right? Because you can surpass the, the time that it takes by, by putting in more effort than most people, right?

[57:40] So a good example of this is actually Navon. Like for Navon is he actually just joined accelerator a while back.

[57:48] This project is busy about 45 days.

[57:51] $7100 in profit his first like three and a half weeks. Like, but here's the deal.

[57:58] You did over 3,000 reach outs.

[58:02] Most people don't do 3,000 reach outs during the entire program.

[58:06] That's. That's the difference, right? So you can either, you can either put in the, the effort and just rack the numbers up as fast as possible. And then that shortcut the time, the learning curve, right?

[58:20] If you just do more, you shorten your learning curve by a long time, right? So I mean that you can, you can do it in one of two ways. Like if you want Aaron's type of success, you can either put in eight years, right?

[58:34] And just do the bare minimum that you need to do every single day and you'll eventually get there like that. That's how it works. Or you can, you can shortcut that, which is not exactly a shortcut, but you can put in more time or more, more reps.

[58:52] That's the best way to put it. Put in more reps to get there faster, right? So example, if Aaron was. Because Aaron started out doing reach outs, let's be real.

[59:01] If you, if he was doing 20 a day, if you do 80 a day or a hundred a day, you're gonna get there four to time, four to five times faster than he did, right?

[59:13] True.

[59:14] That's true. That's just, it's just patient again, right? If you just do these same things every single day and just do more because you want to model. You want a model to come up.

[59:25] You don't want to model where somebody is now because you don't see a lot of times the work that they had to do to get there, right? Like a good.

[59:34] Like for me, like this, this stand. This took four years to get for me of just doing the same **** every single day. ******** up doing this. And guys, I tried to take the shortcuts many, many, many times.

[59:47] I was like, there's got to be a faster way. There's got to be A faster. It's got to be a faster way, and there's not a faster way. They were just doing the same stuff every day over and over again, and then finally just bore fruit, you know, and still forever.

[01:00:01] But I also think the big difference between college and what you guys teach is, I think, because, like, I have a perspective on both because I'm. I'm like, essentially another like Jared.

[01:00:09] But stuff on mine's in business, not engineering. So what they teach us is to be an employee, you know, like, oh, like. Like work for the man. Like these skills in corporate, which is fine, but that's not what I want to be for rest of my life.

[01:00:21] Like.

[01:00:21] And I think that was one of the biggest reasons why I bought your course, I bought Feltons was because I'm like, no. Between the two and the running ads in the consoles, I think I can truly get in life where I want to be.

[01:00:32] Like, I'm not satisfied with who I am, and I don't think really anyone should be. Because you know what? You can always get better. Especially for me. I have so much room for growth I haven't even touched yet.

[01:00:42] So I'm excited for that aspect of what I don't know. Right at the beginning, guys, I was scared of what I didn't know. But I know consoles, so, you know, I almost.

[01:00:51] I like them now and I'm more familiar with them and I enjoy flipping them because I know them, you know, Like, I remember, like, the first five index I asked Matt.

[01:00:59] I was scared. I was terrified. I was like. I was like, matt, is everything here? Am I going to lose money? Is like, because I was scared because I didn't know what anything was.

[01:01:06] But now, you know, I have some experience there and, you know, unlike college, I don't want to work for the man for rest of my life. Yeah. If I have to, to gain some income and to be better and to get my income up to save.

[01:01:17] Yeah, I totally will. But, like, But I want to use that money to go buy machines so I can, like, flip stuff and fix stuff, like what Felton teaches and, like, one more ads and, you know, higher cost and ads, you know, like, so I have more money to run them.

[01:01:28] And I think that's the biggest difference. Chris, from like, your question about college to, like to yours, I think you guys duly do teach what the professors wish they could do.

[01:01:37] That's how I see if you were that at your profession, you wouldn't be teaching it. Like, I had a professor. This is true, by the way. She was Fantastic. She was one of the teachers I had, and I found out that at the community college years ago, I had her.

[01:01:53] This is a true story, by the way, so I hope everyone listens to this on replay. She left being a professor at ECC making like, what, 60, 70,000. She opened her own business, and I believe it was with her husband in trade, and she helped run it with them.

[01:02:08] They are now making over $5 million per year. That is a true story. They're making over 5 million.

[01:02:14] I don't doubt it. I mean, think about education. Education is its own business model within the world of business, and there's a ceiling to that. There is a way in which that world perceives things.

[01:02:26] And also, like, kind of disciples, people to go out and become earners. But here's the thing, like, and we said this in the last call, like, I could go to college.

[01:02:39] I could watch videos on YouTube.

[01:02:42] There's a cost to both of those, whether with time or money. There's a way in which those items both scale based on the amount of time and. Or money invested.

[01:02:51] But knowledge is a super accessible thing in such a way that I think a lot of the courses that are being available online not, you know, and I'm not just saying this to plug this one in a lot of ways, it's such a varied approach that it's challenging the system of traditional education because of the results that it produces, because it's rooted and steeped and like, real world.

[01:03:16] Like, for example, I used to. I used to teach. You talk about Aaron making 32 grand in a year. My very first job teaching with a master's degree out of college was.

[01:03:27] I made 32,5 as a teacher my very first year, guys, I made $32,500. Gross.

[01:03:37] Gross.

[01:03:38] Seeing Aaron make that in a month, right? Shock.

[01:03:44] Let that. Let that sink in. Let that stick. But at the same time, now, now, Moss, you have a skill set, and we've talked about this, where you can go online.

[01:03:52] Like, you can hop on Facebook, offer up Craigslist next to that, and you. You can go, there's 50 bucks, there's a hundred bucks, there's 150 bucks. And you can't unsee that.

[01:04:01] Like, so the problem that should be solved by a job is already being solved simp by a simple skill, right? And so it scales you. It gives you your time back.

[01:04:12] Because it's like, my gosh, I mean, you know as well as I do, I could jump online right now in any zip code I want, and I could find you Guys, five to ten deals within, like, within five minutes, right?

[01:04:25] And Moss, you probably have that proficiency. And I would say Chris has that proficiency, right?

[01:04:30] But like, tells the repetition when you.

[01:04:33] Feel like you have an ATM machine just sitting there in your brain. I'm not interested in going to work for anybody else anymore. Like, because I don't, I don't need to.

[01:04:42] Like, I've proven to myself that, oh, there's, there's money right there. Let me just go get it, okay? All I got to do is take action to elicit the income that I need from doing this or that or posting an ad and just following up, like, it just, it becomes, it re, it reframes or rewires, like the circuitry in your brain to think about how do I probably, how do I solve the problem of making a living, right?

[01:05:09] And then when you've developed a process or a due diligence that is so focused on process that now that process is paying you even more than what covers the bills and what, and you have like, savings, like, you suddenly begin to realize that you've, you've just worked your way into success almost by accident, right?

[01:05:31] Like, it, it's really weird, I think, how it happens, but it happens.

[01:05:36] Like, I mean, like, I also think journeys is what makes the man a woman. It really, like, like, honestly, I wouldn't trade my journey for anything because I think it's unique to me.

[01:05:44] And I think your journey on that, on that call once, that's unique to you, right? And like, in all your journeys, right, the pasture and like, like all that good stuff, right, that makes you, you, it makes you your journey.

[01:05:54] And I think that colleges, I, I, I, I, I said, I said this to Chris one day, like, and I, I like my professors. I think some of them are very nice, but if they was good as what they teach, they'd be doing what Chris is doing.

[01:06:05] Like, I honestly think you really want to get a lot of out of college. They'll have Chris teach the marketing classes. They'll get more out of that because.

[01:06:11] That'S real sound bite.

[01:06:12] Yeah, well, because it's the real world, though. Like, what Chris is doing is what they teach, but he's already doing it. And if the professors was good as what they teach, guess what, guys?

[01:06:22] They would be doing what Chris and you and Tyler are all doing. But they aren't. So clearly they're not as good as what they teach and preach. That is just how I look at it.

[01:06:31] I'm not putting them down. I have some pretty good professors Guys who are very nice, they're very good. But the. But that is the truth, though. If you really want to get real world example, man, I should have go Crisco teacher, marketing class.

[01:06:42] I think they learn more. I really do. I generally do think that because they're teaching the working for the man. And guys working for the man is fine. Like you guys said, there's many people who do that.

[01:06:52] But if you do want success, what Chris is doing and what I'm trying to do, what you guys are doing, what Felton's doing, that's really the way to get there.

[01:06:59] It really is, well, working.

[01:07:03] Here's what's interesting is I think.

[01:07:06] I think that most things are a pyramid scheme, and people look at pyramid schemes in the kind of classic Ponzi scheme, oh, this guy's scamming.

[01:07:16] Hey, listen, with all due respect to everybody that hears this and to Chris and to you, Moss, and you know, even to myself, like, a steady paycheck is a good thing, but a steady paycheck can also be some kind.

[01:07:28] Like a. Almost like a kind of addiction. Like, you get very use to that. Almost like a Pavlovs dog, right? Ring the bell and I'm frothing at the mouth. And, you know, because I'm, you know, I need this.

[01:07:39] Like you, we condition ourselves or become almost institutionalized in such a way that you don't think that there's any other way to go over the bridge, right, than to. Than the.

[01:07:50] The customary traditional sense that people taught you, which, you know, if you think about traditional education, which was cultivated through Rockefeller and the Rockefeller system of working in a mill and how mills had bells and bells rang at schools, because they modeled that person.

[01:08:06] They modeled that. That nature of how people worked in the industrial age, which hasn't. Which is way different than what exists now, right. In the information age. Like, you just have to be aware that there was some much deeper pockets and much stronger people that were controlling the narrative in that arena that was saying, hey, this is how it's supposed to be.

[01:08:31] This is how it has to be. And that's just not true. And it hasn't been true for a long time.

[01:08:35] But I also like what you said once, where you can't compare yourself to other people. Like Jason Weaver. Nevin. Right? Like him. Yeah.

[01:08:41] Like, I was.

[01:08:42] Like, you told me once, you can't compare yourself to others because not. No one ever starts in the same spot. Right? You can't be like, man, I'm not an Aaron. I'm a failure.

[01:08:49] I Should stop, right? I'm not adjacent in my first month or never in my first month. I should quit. I should stop. I should go do something else, like. Because you're not them.

[01:08:56] You're not. No man or woman is created equally when it comes to where they start in a business and to how they grow and progress. And you can't look at it like that because I agree with you, Matt.

[01:09:05] You just, like, you just get down in the dumps, you'll be like, man, I'll never become an Aaron. I won't become a Chris, a Matt, or Nevin, or Jason. Because you know what?

[01:09:14] As you guys know, maybe Jason has past experience. Maybe Jason is doing other stuff you don't know yet, right? You all start from different spots. Doesn't mean you can't get there.

[01:09:23] Maybe you just have to take a little bit longer or, you know, you do different routes, that's all.

[01:09:28] Yeah, yeah. Now we're all starting. We're all starting from different vantage points. Our point of entry for this entrepreneurial journey, I think, is different for every individual.

[01:09:37] It is.

[01:09:38] I did. I. I was in ministry and working in schools for 20 years prior to, like, transitioning, you know, starting my own. Starting my own LLC and becoming a professional reseller.

[01:09:52] What all of that contributes to me as a person is valuable if I allow it to be. It's not like, you know what? I don't know, can I. Can I entertain the idea of going back to being like, gosh, I WISH I were 25 and just, you know, working for myself now as a reseller, I'd have really made.

[01:10:08] I don't have the luxury. Like, I can't spend any more life sitting there in the past thinking about what I might have missed out on or being concerned about how somebody else has a leg up because they're younger than I am.

[01:10:19] No, I have what I have got to play. The hand that you're dealt.

[01:10:21] Also, can't change the past either. You know, I mean, it's me. I mean, I think all of us would have things in the past we wish you could change, but unfortunately we just can't, you know, like, there's many things I did in life I wish I could change, but, you know.

[01:10:32] But you just can't, you know, you gotta move forward. There was a great quote I saw, and it was like, men. Men hate more. Hate and regret more of the past than they do the future.

[01:10:41] Like, I. E. Like, like past decisions. And it is true, but you just gotta, you know, move past. Like, can I wish I Can get those four months back. I didn't do anything with the course.

[01:10:48] Of course I wish I could, but unfortunately I can't. Like, I wish I was, you know, doing other stuff and go back in time and redo X, Y and Z.

[01:10:57] Yeah, obviously. But, you know, as you guys know, you know something, I also like what Chris said once, and this is what school doesn't teach you is Chris goes, I remember I tried something and it failed.

[01:11:06] I think it was like, chris, it's something to do with, like, something. I flipped with something and I, like, didn't make money.

[01:11:11] Chris will tell you he's failed at a lot of stuff.

[01:11:13] Yeah. And that, like. And that's what Chris told me. And Chris was like, moss, what they don't teach you in school is that it's okay to fail. It is okay to fail.

[01:11:22] If you don't fail, great. If you do still fine. If you fail, guess what? Learn from it and move on. And I remember Chris said to me, he. He said, be it.

[01:11:32] I think it was on the call even. I think he was like, moss, I think I failed more than you have and mostly anyone else. And he's just so blunt and honest about it, but he is right.

[01:11:43] They don't teach you that. Like, like, like, like in the systems, they don't teach you that. They're just like, oh, okay, just go, you know, do something like you said, Matt, that's safe.

[01:11:52] Get a paycheck, you know, and all that good stuff. But you know, what Chris said is true, though. Like, it really is, though. That's quite funny.

[01:11:59] I mean, if you. So, yeah, I mean, it is very counterintuitive that in school, you know, dude, I was like, I was a straight A student in school, right? Like, I was like, that's just how I am.

[01:12:12] And coming out into college and everything and then. And then jumping into the entrepreneurship world. The first time I failed, dude, it was unsettling. Yeah, right? Like, I don't fail.

[01:12:25] Like, this is not because I expect to win. Like, that's just who I am.

[01:12:29] I just expect it's what it is. I like it.

[01:12:33] I like it. Yeah.

[01:12:35] Like, you know, my dad was T ball. You know, we're gonna win. Like, I don't even care if they don't keep score. We're gonna win, you know, so, like, you just expect to win at that point when you raised in it.

[01:12:47] And failing was. Was difficult for me in the beginning, like, as I learned that. But luckily I had some. Luckily I had some good mentors in very early on, you know, you know, my very first big fail with flipping phones was actually the first one, funny enough, I bought two cloud locked phones, bought my very first two iCloud lock phones, didn't make any money, broke even.

[01:13:14] And you know, me and my wife were looking at me like that was our last 200 bucks. So what are we gonna do? I was like, I guess I gotta go back to work, you know.

[01:13:23] And so I went back to work, got more money. I was like, you know what David said, this thing works, I'm gonna try it again. And so I did. And then I flipped the Samsung and I decided to just flip what I knew at that point.

[01:13:35] And I flipped it and I made some money. I think it was like 20 bucks. But hey, know the win to me.

[01:13:40] You know, let's go, let's go.

[01:13:42] It was 20 bucks that I didn't make at my job.

[01:13:44] Right. Yeah, that was cool.

[01:13:48] And then over time I just did a couple more, did a couple more very small blips at that point. And, and then I, you know, and then I had one big fail, like huge.

[01:14:00] I.

[01:14:01] The iPhone X had recently come out. When I did this one, I was, I was kind of on high. I was doing my stuff and I got my first return request.

[01:14:10] Right.

[01:14:11] Oh.

[01:14:12] And I freaked out immediately because I didn't have a mentor at this point. I didn't actually have a course or somebody I could talk to. Right. So that was, that was the first major mess up, right, was I didn't invest in somebody that could help me and, or have anybody I could talk to.

[01:14:29] And I refunded immediately. Oh, and guess what happened? They didn't return the item.

[01:14:37] Yeah.

[01:14:38] After money got phoned, they had, you know, they didn't have to because. And I called ebay and I was like, shouldn't. Aren't they obligated to return it? And they were like, you've already refunded.

[01:14:47] They're actually not obligated to do anything. And I was like, okay, all right.

[01:14:53] Wasn't long.

[01:14:54] What's funny is that was 800 and I think it was 860 sale. What's crazy is iPhone X is worth like 120 bucks now.

[01:15:05] It's so crazy.

[01:15:07] But that was almost the, the cost of the actual course that I ended up buying about three weeks later. Like, if I would have just invested in the knowledge first, I wouldn't have made a screw up.

[01:15:21] And I could have actually talked to some people that could have, you know, I could have literally posted in the Facebook group, hey, Guys got, you know, return. I don't know what to do.

[01:15:29] I've never done a return before. And then I would have gotten a couple of comments that told me exactly what to do, and it wouldn't have happened. It never would have happened.

[01:15:35] And I would have saved myself 800 and something dollars. So it is what it is. But it was. It was a big fail in my eyes.

[01:15:43] And then, you know, there was a. There was. And I don't remember where I learned, like, failure is the way to us, but I learned it somewhere.

[01:15:54] It was.

[01:15:55] Or something.

[01:15:58] And then I just kept learning and kept learning, and I was like. And then eventually I just realized, okay, the only way to. The only way to succeed is through failure.

[01:16:05] So I was like, all right, cool. And I took that personally. I was like, I'm gonna fail as fast as possible. I'm gonna fail faster than everybody else.

[01:16:15] I love it. That's a great mantra because that's the cost of learning. People don't realize that failure is the cost of learning. Moss, your four months of sitting on the couch or whatever the heck you were doing, because, I don't know, like.

[01:16:26] I wasn't doing anything. That was the problem.

[01:16:28] That's the cost of learning, right? It's like, oh, okay, like, you know, there's no bias with failure. Failure doesn't care if you're, like, tall, skinny, fat, dark, white, whatever.

[01:16:38] Like, it's true.

[01:16:39] It's gonna. It's gonna humble you, right? And when it does, you should be listening because that's the. That's the cost of learning.

[01:16:48] I think it's interesting though, Chris, that you say, like, the, you know, that phone and the cost of the course that you bought. Like, I think people very poorly interpret.

[01:16:57] Like, how, like, if anybody hears, like, okay, hey, guys, if you want to join recellerator, what's the cost? The cost for this course is $4,000, right? People hear that and they go, oh, $4,000, right.

[01:17:08] But at the same time, people fail to realize that between Chris, myself, Aaron, some other coaches, there's 15, 20 plus years of reselling encapsulated just within, like, a handful of people here that we've navigated a lot of failures.

[01:17:26] And you don't have to fail because we already have. Right. You get to learn at our. At our expense, which is time, which is way more valuable than money.

[01:17:37] It is.

[01:17:37] Which essentially, buying a course is the first way of scaling your success. And people fail to see or realize that. Oh, okay. Weighing the cost is just something that I still feel like is A is a mental hangup for a lot of people because they, they think of it as an expense, not as an investment.

[01:17:55] That's what I was trying to say. Oh.

[01:17:56] It's a tax write off. So I don't know what to tell you.

[01:18:00] I mean, but like you said, but like you said, they don't play one way or the other.

[01:18:09] I mean, yeah, I mean, like, you know, like, you are right, you're gonna play one way or the other and the like. So like I would say for me personally, I was skeptical of the course because I've had other bad experiences.

[01:18:20] So that was my experience. I had like, you know, I had Costco's and errands out were good. Right. You know, and then I was like, you know, but in there I had some awful ones.

[01:18:29] I was like, bro, this is a scam. I wasted money. And so before I bought your course because I was like, I was like, well, which way is this gonna go?

[01:18:36] I'm like, half have been good, half to less have been awful. So I was like, I didn't really know what, how your course was gonna go, but just because experiences are experiences, for better or for worse.

[01:18:47] So, you know, I look back now and it was a great decision. But you don't always know at the time, like you don't because it's business. Two of the grass quotes I ever two the better quotes I've seen in business.

[01:18:57] And it was, I don't remember who said them, but it was like this. The life is like a journey, not a destination. You don't just get there. There's a path and these paths are destinations.

[01:19:07] And sometimes the path that you take is what defines you and that's what makes you you. Right. And then another one. I liked what it. It was like, business is like giving birth to a child.

[01:19:20] You don't. A lot of people just see the end result and say congratulations, but no one knows the pain and suffering that went through it to get there.

[01:19:27] That's true.

[01:19:27] Yep. True.

[01:19:28] Yeah.

[01:19:29] What's crazy about the path thing you were just talking about is the, the correct path is usually like already like the path is beaten down, right? The people have stepped through it.

[01:19:40] So it, so it's warned, Right. What a lot of people try to do is like they see the worn path, but there's just like this hurdle that they got to get over to get to it.

[01:19:51] So what they try to do instead is like go through the thick floor force, you know, and try to take that shortcut, which is what I did in the Beginning, So it is what it is.

[01:19:59] But that, that's where you get all the thorns and the pain and the, you get stuck, you know, and then you give up and then you just turn around.

[01:20:08] I honestly believe, guys, where I started, I think anyone can do it. I, I, I really do. I, I believe what you guys teach and preach along with. You know, the weekly course, the weekly calls, it really does work.

[01:20:20] Like, I started from absolutely nothing. I didn't know anything about phones. I know anything about consoles. I still don't really know much about phones, to be honest. But, but, but, but, like, but, you know, I saw from nothing, had absolutely no knowledge, you know, almost three, end of the hole.

[01:20:35] And so, you know, and then, like, you know, and I'll be honest, you, mindset's important. Like, I felt like I had depression. I felt like I had just stress upon stress because I felt like, Chris, I wasted three grand from a college student.

[01:20:49] That's a lot of money. I'm like, and, and then you made me realize that. Put work into it. You're like, moss. Are you doing anything? No, I've been sitting on a couch for four months just doing school.

[01:20:59] Right. Which is important. But, but like you said, Chris, you can't complain that you're not seeing success if you're not doing anything. So you know you have no right.

[01:21:08] Yeah, yeah. So, like, so, like, you do have to put work into it. Like, even say yourself, Chris, you didn't get to where you, where you got to today by not having failure, by not having the path or journey you had.

[01:21:19] Right? You busted. But you wake up every day and you still work because you know what, you have a purpose for your wife, for your kids, or if you have some other, you know, motive or goals you're trying to shoot for.

[01:21:31] But, like, I think if everyone knows a goal they're trying to shoot for, I think it'll help you make your goals. And, and I think one of the goals was when I bought your course, I wanted extra money.

[01:21:41] I, I wanted to make more money. Right? Nothing wrong with that. I saw the goal. I saw Felton goal, same. Hey, maybe with Felton, I'd make more money, right? And I think that people, if you have, you probably would have reasons you are doing something for.

[01:21:55] I think that you'll be successful. Like, do you know Aaron's where he was like, yeah, he was in, like, some shack and, like, Missouri. He didn't even have any running water.

[01:22:05] He had cockroaches everywhere. He wanted to get out. He wanted to make more Money. Right. So you could get to a better place. Right. I told Matt I want to be financially independent so I can spend more time with my kids and wife one day.

[01:22:15] Right. Everyone has goals. Better for worse. There's still a goal at the end of the day, I think goals help people advance in life. So you have something you're shooting for.

[01:22:24] Yep.

[01:22:24] It all.

[01:22:26] It all just begins with locking your eyes somewhere on the horizon and taking a step forward. And it doesn't have to be sexy. It doesn't have to be awesome. It just has to be persistent, like moving forward, even failing forward.

[01:22:39] It's not hard as long as you just keep moving forward. And so I don't know about you guys, but I feel like maybe that's a good sound bite to end on.

[01:22:49] Chris, you got.

[01:22:52] Yeah.

[01:22:53] Base hits. Base hits.

[01:22:55] Base hits, bro. Telling you base hits. Base hits, bro. You get. You get those grand slams, you'll get those home runs, but, man, base hits or base hits or what's up?

[01:23:05] Ask. Ask Tony. Gwen, man. Dude. Dude was consistent. Just always getting base hits, bro.

[01:23:10] And I'll also say in college, they say that. They always say it's good to have mentors. Honestly, professors, I think I already found them, so.

[01:23:20] Appreciate it, Moss.

[01:23:21] I love the basics, basically how you win games.

[01:23:25] So honestly love you guys. I really do, man. I think you guys are blessing and I appreciate everything you've done for me, and I look forward to what the future holds for us, so love it.

[01:23:33] Hey.

[01:23:34] Well, guys, this has been another episode of the Smart Flip. If you guys want to get a little bit of the same action that Moss has, we help people in pretty much every area at this point.

[01:23:47] We help people start, we help people grow, and then we help people scale.

[01:23:50] And really, it's the same stuff every single day that we, for the most part.

[01:23:56] So if you want to take the boring but proven way. Yeah, apply to work with us.

[01:24:03] We're not gonna teach you some, like, super sexy, you know, un. Un. You know, whatever way to. To drop into making $30,000, but.

[01:24:14] Well, you know, we'll definitely show you the proven way that we've all gone through that we've, you know, was kind of beaten into us really is just doing the same pretty much daily tasks over and over again that lead to succeeding in, you know, in this business specifically.

[01:24:31] So if that's something you're looking for and you want a boring way to make money, let us know.

[01:24:37] With that being said, see you guys later.

[01:24:39] See you guys.