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Ladies welcome back to the third of our

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four-part advent retreat series.

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Prepare your heart for him hosted by the genius project.

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My name is Karen Doyle, your host and founder of the genius project.

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And it is my great joy and privilege to be able to do.

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Facilitate this advent retreat series for you.

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We know that advent is a season of preparation.

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So as you're journeying closer and closer towards Christmas, realize that you are

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already in the season of a new year, a new liturgical year in the church.

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And quite often at the beginning of a new year, we look at resolutions.

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All the things that we want to change or that we want to do differently next

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year, we want to leave behind those things that weren't serving us well, or the

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year that we had, that wasn't a winner.

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And we want to go into a new year with a clean slate, so to speak.

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We want to be refreshed and we want to begin a new in advent.

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We wait, we prepare and we reflect on the ways in which the Lord is inviting.

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Start a new for the ways in which he's wanting to refresh and restore us.

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Ladies, I'd love to invite you to join us inside the Catholic women's

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master class in the new year.

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If you're wanting to begin 20, 22 on the front foot, if you're wanting to

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be really intentional and go into next year, living a life of balance and

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wholeness in Christ, then I'd love to extend an invitation to you to join.

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Inside the Catholic women's masterclass.

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Now these Catholic women's masterclass by the genius project is a four

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month journey of transformation.

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We walked through a number of rhythms of renewal that you can establish in

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your life so that you can live a life of wholeness and balance in Christ.

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And you can grow into the fullness of who he is.

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Created you to be, we are beginning to new groups at the end of January.

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So if you would like to be a part of this incredible community of Catholic women who

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are journeying together, then I invite you to send me an email at Karen at genius.

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Dot co ladies.

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It is my great joy to welcome Mika.

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Kozack.

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Megan's going to share with you some very practical ways in which you can

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prepare your heart for Christ this Christmas and how you can set some

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boundaries and prepare space for Christ in your key relationships.

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Enjoy, or Megan, thank you so much for joining us for this advent retreat.

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Prepare our hearts for him.

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It's so wonderful to have you.

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Thank you for inviting me to be part of it.

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I'm delighted.

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Uh, well, we recently had you on the genius podcast and

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you gave a fabulous episode, which actually was one of the hands down

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favorites, looking at relationships, boundaries, how we can be good stewards

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over our lives, because that is your background and your specialty is in

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relationships, education, and counseling.

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And so today, Good talk in our genius advent series.

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We're going to be looking at, I guess, our boundaries as women and how we

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can walk into Christmas, preparing our hearts for the Lord, but also doing

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that and ministering to those walking with those that are in our sphere of

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influence.

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Exactly how exciting it's going

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to be.

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Good.

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You always, everything that you say is gold.

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So I'm going to throw right over to you and allow you to take the floor.

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And then at the end, we'll come back and have a bit of a chat.

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So thank you again.

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Thank you.

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Lovely.

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Oh, it's just such a pleasure to get, to be here and to be working with you again,

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Karen, and to be speaking to all of the women, who'll be listening and watching.

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Christmas is just my favorite time of the year.

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And it always has been, so the music, the food, the hallmark

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movies, just every, every part of it.

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And then the pinnacle is Christmas Eve mass.

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For me, I just, it brings me such delight and I love the waiting season of advent.

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I think I love that anticipation even more than the day itself.

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There's something like that gives me goosebumps and joy

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more than anything else.

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I think during the whole year, it's just divine.

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But I think also this preparations time, it can be a season of stress and of

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worry for some people as well, because there some anxiety sometimes around

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how to manage difficult relationships and obligatory social situations.

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And unless we are intentional about how we spend our time, our energy,

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even our money, it can be a season of exhaustion instead of a seasonal.

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Now I was lucky enough to be a Rita on math at mass on Sunday.

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And I read the second reading.

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And so I read this little phrase out to the congregation from Philippians,

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and I want to share it with you today because it just spoke to my heart.

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I write out to them rejoice in the load all the way I say it again.

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Rejoice have no anxiety at all, but in everything and make

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your requests known to God.

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Then the peace of God, that's a passes.

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All understanding will guard your heart and mind in Jesus Christ.

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And I just thought it was so beautiful.

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It was like breathing fresh air, you know, it was just gorgeous.

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Now, here is what St.

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Paul's letter to the Philippians.

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Doesn't say it does not say panic.

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Spend more money than you can afford attend events out of obligation.

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Make small talk with people who make you feel bad about yourself, survive the

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season and a regroup in the new year.

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No, it does not say that at all.

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It says rejoice and feel the peace of God in this season.

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And so that's really what we're here to talk about.

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So, yes, it's about challenging relationships.

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Yes.

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It's about boundaries, but really it's about how to create an advent season

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of joy and peace while negotiating all of the different logistical and

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relationship aspects of preparing for.

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How exciting.

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So I want to show you an image.

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Okay.

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Now I'm going to share my screen where I'm going to try really hard

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to and do it smoothly for those of you who are watching you ready.

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So here we go.

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This is a beautiful image and it is of a woman it's by a Canadian

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artist and photographer called Noel.

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Mirabella is not perfect for Christmas.

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Now for those of you who are listening and not watching, I

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want to describe it for you.

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So there is a woman who is nailing down in a beautiful blue dress, and

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she is holding a baby in her arms.

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And her face is touching the face of this little boy.

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Now on her back is this enormous hessian bag, about three times

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bigger than she is really.

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And in that bag, she is carrying.

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Everything.

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Everything you could imagine as a woman, she is carrying a mop.

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She is carrying needle and thread.

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She's carrying an overdue electricity bill, an artist she's carrying a laptop.

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She's carrying an image of a woman with a tiny waist and bathroom scale.

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She's carrying pots and pans and fabric and medication, and self-help books

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jammed right in the middle where you think there'd be no more space and

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then a hundred tiny, little other things that you can barely even see.

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Now, the artist who created this strong every piece by hand from

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the ceiling to make it look as though this woman is carrying it.

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And it really does.

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You can see the white of all of these, that this woman is carrying.

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And for her, for the artist for Noelle, it was an image of motherhood.

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And I just see it.

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I see it so clearly, but I think for us now, it can be a beautiful

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representation of advent for women.

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Now, advent is a holy and sacred time, but for women, it is also

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a time that can be exhausting.

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So it is a time where we are the magic makers.

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So whether we are mothers or whether we are in a relationship or whether

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we are single women, we are still considered to be the ones who were.

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Be the help in the kitchen, make sure the Shepherd's outfit is ready on the bed.

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Make sure that we've got everything that we need, but there's a spare gift under

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the tree, just in case that extra person shows up at your table on Christmas

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day, all of the things that make this season magical come from somewhere.

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And so often it's.

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As women and not only do we do all of those quiet, silent things behind

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the scenes, but we do it all trying to look beautiful while trying to

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be a gracious host while trying to make it seem seamless and easy.

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And that is a lot to carry.

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Sorry, I can just, so I recommend looking at this beautiful artist, Noel Mirabella.

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Isn't it gorgeous.

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I just love it.

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Okay.

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So you might be this insanely busy person.

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Okay.

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Organizing everything, every single aspect of it.

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And you might love that.

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That might bring you absolute joy.

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And if that's you more power to bright, brilliant, alternatively.

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You might feel a little bit overwhelmed about how to fit everything in while

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making everything magical while trying to deal with difficult relationships and

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not knowing how or where to make changes.

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So I want to take you through a process that I use with clients at the time,

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especially in the lead up to Christmas.

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Oh my goodness.

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The number of conversations I've had that looked like these are extraordinary.

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It has three steps.

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So step one, I value.

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Step two.

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So I need, and step three, I will honor that by.

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So I'm going to walk you through.

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So step one is I value.

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So I want you to stop and think if you're listening to the car or you're going for

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a walk, or you're watching this, just take a minute and think, what do you love and

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value most about the season of advent?

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That thing that just makes your heart sing.

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So, if you are filling a job full of rocks and every rock is a hope, a

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dream, an activity, a person, an event that advent, these values of Yolanda.

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These are the big rocks.

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They are the ones that you put in first.

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These are the ones that you identify your core intention for

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the season, your mantra, your focus, whatever you want to call it for

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me in this season, it is forward.

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Peaceful hot, joyful memories.

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That's it.

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Then my big rocks.

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Now they're in that order for a reason, because in order to be the

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magic maker who brings joy to myself, my husband, my family, my friends,

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I need to have a peaceful, hot Fest.

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Otherwise I have nothing to give.

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So step one.

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What do you value?

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What are your core values, your mantra for the beginning, then

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write those down once you have them.

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So I've got two peaceful hearts, joyful memories.

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Once you have those values, each one of them, you break down and you

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have a look okay with that value.

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Well, what do I need if I was going to turn that value into some kind of

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an action, not just some lofty idea or hope, what would, I mean, And this

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is where it starts to get tricky.

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So I want to have a peaceful heart and I want to create joyful memories for

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myself and my husband and my children.

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It can be really tricky to identify needs sometimes because

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we confuse them with should.

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And I do this all the time.

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Oh my goodness.

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I have grown up with the idea that I am a.

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And I do all of the things that need to happen for all

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of the people who need them.

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If there is a shoe, it is in my basket and I am on my way.

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And so when I'm looking at needs, yes, you too.

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Karen should, should is you not?

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Yeah.

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So it's so hard.

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We've actually got to put them down and identify then.

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Okay.

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We're not talking about shirts today.

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We're talking about your values and then what you need.

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So let me walk you through it.

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If I fail you having a peaceful heart, I actually need.

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Time alone to pray and to exercise.

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And that means time away from my children.

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I feel like there should be like a dunk dunk dunk music here, because

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how selfish does that sound?

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As soon as I even think it, the should is just, they flood into my mind.

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And I think it's school holidays.

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I'm only going to get 18 summers with my children.

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It's Christmas time.

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There are 17 million things I should be doing to be the good mother,

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wife, daughter, friend, everything I should be doing right now.

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How is it possible that I could tell myself it's okay to have time alone.

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So insert whatever societal or family of origin expectation you have there.

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Those ones that just mine, the thing he with we get to IME is we don't actually

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have to solve the problem right now.

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We just have to identify the needs.

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So I valued a peaceful heart.

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So I need time align.

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We'll sort out how in a minute now the other one of my values

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is making joyful memories.

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If I want to do that.

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I need to intentionally create environments that bring

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joy to me and to my family.

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Now this environment may or may not be with family and it may

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or may not be participating in traditional events for this to happen.

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I need to be really clear about my bad.

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Around people around time, around events, around where I go, how much

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money I spend and what I choose to do with my resources tricky.

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So if I value a peaceful heart and joyful memory, I need quiet time and

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clear boundaries around how to manage this season so that it is joyful.

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And.

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The third one is where the rubber hits the road, because so far

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it's just a really nice idea.

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Okay.

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When you get to step three is where we go.

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I will honor this by this is that you have to take a deep breath.

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You have to summon up your courage.

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You have to pray hard and discern well so that you can

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intentionally manage this season.

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And you have to recognize that it's going to disappoint.

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And that's really hard, but it's so worth it.

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I promise you, so stick with me for this last step.

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Okay.

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You need to act with love all the way through this.

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I'm going to walk you through a couple of examples that link into my values

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to make it a bit easier to understand.

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So I value a peaceful heart.

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Okay.

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And I need quiet time.

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We've got that far.

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That makes sense.

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How do I honor that now?

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So I am an introvert.

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I love my children.

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I have two little daughters who are seven and nine and they are growing

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faster than I could have imagined.

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And I drink up my time with them, but I'm an introvert and they

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are delightful, joyful noise makers and they are exhausting.

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So I have to understand that even though there will be perceived.

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And a bucket load of mommy guilt that comes with me.

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When I say I need time away from my children in the lead up to Christmas.

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That has to be okay because I'm not talking about taking

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a two week solo vacation.

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I'm talking about taking one hour a day to fill up my cup so that I

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have something to pour into them.

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That's how it works.

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That's what I need.

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And to be honest, it doesn't always.

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I try every day, but there are days where it'll dispose apart where instead of my

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husband or my family or someone helping me out, or even the joy of a Christmas

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movie and me hiding in my room, journaling for an hour, it just falls to pieces and

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we take a deep breath and we go that's okay because there's always tomorrow,

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but at least I know that there is a tomorrow for this possibility coming.

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It's not just an indefinite time.

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And sometime in the future one day someday, maybe I'll get a chance to be.

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It's no, no, every day there's something set aside.

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There's enough in the tank that I can do as well.

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And the cause of that, I am a happy woman.

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I am a friendly, kind of more gracious human being.

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And I'm a much better mom when I am honoring that value and that need

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so as you look at your needs, as you look at your values, as you see

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them and you go, I think that's what I need, but I'm pretty sure I'm not

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allowed to do that at this season.

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During advent Christmas with small children, whatever your reasoning

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is, give yourself permission.

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Give yourself permission to honor that need.

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I want to then give you another example here.

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And this is about making joyful memories and this is where the

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relationships really come to the floor.

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And I have no doubt that you're going to be hearing some of these and

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thinking, oh my gosh, that's my life.

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So just stay tuned with me.

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Okay.

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If I value making joyfulness.

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I know, I need to create environments that bring joy and I have to

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do that by setting boundaries.

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Now, boundaries is a word that really divides people.

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I have.

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Some people love it.

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They hear it.

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And they're like, yes, give me more, tell me more about Brenna and Glen.

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And it will have things that have to do with boundaries.

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I mean, I'm for it.

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Other people hate it, they hear the word word and they have an

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almost visceral reaction to it.

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And they say, don't say, don't say the B word to me again.

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I'm done I'm out.

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And we just all get along.

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Now I want to explain it and unpack it for you a little bit.

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So that we're all on the same page about what it is that I'm talking about.

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It can seem funny to connect joy.

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Because we see boundaries as a way to keep people out, but that's not really

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what it is, are sort of two sides of the same coin to experience joy.

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You have to create environments that foster joy.

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And the way that we do that is by having clear boundaries.

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So they're not sending ethical, magical thing.

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They're simply what is okay.

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And what isn't okay.

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And that.

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Depending on the season of life, depending on what you need, depending

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on the seasons of life of the people who you interacting with, it's

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like a Foundry on a piece of land.

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So you think that the house that you're, that you live in your owning

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or renting, whatever it is, it might have a fence around the piece of land.

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And then it has an entryway.

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It has a gate somewhere, and that's what lets things in and lets things.

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Okay.

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You choose what is inside your boundary.

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You choose your values, your needs, your hopes, your desires, you choose

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everyone and everything that comes into that space and everyone and everything

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that you let out of that space.

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Now, sometimes we don't know that someone has crossed a boundary

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until we feel really uncovered.

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Something's happened in my life.

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Something's wrong with this conversation?

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Well, this person, or the amount of time that I'm here, something will happen

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and we'll just feel something to date.

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It feels uncomfortable worrying, and that's a little cue for us to go, oh,

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someone has entered my space without my permission or they're trembling

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on my garden without my permission.

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I didn't, I didn't say it was okay for that person to be here

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for this long to make that.

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To say that thing in front of my children to expect that thing from me,

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whatever it is that could be kind of acute, that our boundaries have been

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crossed or an idea that maybe there wasn't a boundary there to begin with.

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So often if we come from a family of origin, which is quite inmate.

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How boundaries are really blurry.

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So it's kind of like having a whole lot of houses on the same street,

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but no fences in between them.

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Everybody can wander in and out of each other's yards and just assume

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that that's okay with everybody else.

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And so if you're there suddenly what we're even slowly trying to put up a little

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boundary, it can make the other people on your street feel really uncomfortable

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and be like, hang on a second.

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What was wrong with the way that we had it?

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So you can expect as he walked through this season of creating boundaries, but

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they will be a little bit of discomfort.

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And that's okay, because your space inside your boundary is sacred and it

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is sacred for you and for your family.

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You choose who comes in and who comes out.

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And that's a real gift that only you can give now in the lead up to Christmas time.

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Almost every conversation I have with clients is about family or

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family and law, just at the moment, how to manage it, what to do, how

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to have the difficult conversations.

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And it can be beautiful to connect with family.

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I love it.

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It's wonderful, but it can also be hard, especially if there aren't

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those clear boundaries sometimes with our family of origin.

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And you might notice this yourself.

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When we connect back with them, we revert back to our childhood.

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Without even really thinking.

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So if we were the peacekeeper growing up, or if we were the clown, if we were

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the good girl growing up, we might just slip back into that family dynamic.

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When we meet them again, for some people that's comfortable and

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delightful and all they've known, and they're very happy to be there, but

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other people they've worked really, really hard to step out of that role.

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And so when they come back into that family of origin and they suddenly find

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themselves in that position again, It can be really challenging to know what to

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do, and it can make it difficult to enjoy one another's company as adults who have

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grown and changed and have now got more to offer the world than what they see.

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So how do you mean.

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You have to set up a boundary ahead of time.

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If you get to Christmas day and everybody assumes the same, thing's going to be

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happening as it's always happened and you get there and you announced to

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everybody, hi everyone, Merry Christmas.

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I have some boundaries.

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I'd like to just let you know about trust me now, if this is not going to go well.

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Okay.

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So you've got to set it up ahead of time.

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You've got to give people a chance to, to breathe, to respond, to

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understand, to make change, and to have a little bit of breathing as well.

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If they need.

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So give people time, give people a little bit of a heads up before this happening.

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So this may be enough time for you to do this before this Christmas book might

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be a chance for you to do a bit of a stock take is Christmas, and then get

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ready to set up for next year's advent.

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Now there are many different things that we set boundaries around

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without family, with relationships, with all sorts of different things.

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I want to unpack two for you that are really, really

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common by now time and gifted.

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And how to manage these two.

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And I'm going to tell you a couple of stories, successes, and values.

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So you can set a boundary around the amount of time that you

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said that you spend with people you are allowed to do that.

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Just because someone in your family tells you that Christmas lunch

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goes all day does not mean that you are obligated to be there or.

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If that brings you joy, if your whole family gets so much out of it, wonderful,

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enjoy have the best day cut the Turkey, drink the champagne, have a great time.

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If the idea of that means that your values, those things that are so called

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those big rocks for you, that they get washed away, or they get pushed

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out of the way or someone else's value and you need to stop and have a bit

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of a thing go, okay, what do I value?

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What do I need?

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Okay, I'm going to honor that.

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And I'm going to honor that by the amount of time.

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I spend at different places.

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So I'll give you an example.

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My eldest daughter is nine now.

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She's I can not believe it she's so old when she was festival, when

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she's a November baby, her first Christmas, she was six weeks old.

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Now she was the first grandchild.

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She was the first niece.

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She was in high demand.

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We were like invited to every Christmas party on the Southern hemisphere.

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We would just, he was cute city.

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Right?

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We loved it.

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It was beautiful.

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And all of that.

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Almost all of them were colliding on Christmas day and we thought that's fine.

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We can totally, totally make that happen.

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So we did Christmas as the three of us at home.

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Then we went to a brunch for my sister-in-law.

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Then we went to lunch with my extended family, and then we went

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to dinner with my family of origin.

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We squeezed in everything.

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And in between we were managing nappy changes in breastfeeding

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and a six week old baby with lunatics by the end of the day.

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She was cranky and exhausted and hot.

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I was just a nervous wreck and nobody enjoyed it.

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Nobody they could, they couldn't cuddle a happy baby cause she was

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crying and she only wanted me.

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I didn't want to be there.

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I wanted to go home and be in bed and be recovering after birthing a child

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six weeks ago, I Jonsi was too much.

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It was too much, but we were doing it because we thought we.

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We're doing it because everybody else had asked us to do this and this.

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And so when it was on and so we said, okay, and we just kept saying

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yes, instead of no, I'm sorry.

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We can't this year.

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And we think no is a bad word.

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No, I was your friend.

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No.

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Is your gateway to boundaries sometimes.

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And it's so important.

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So we had to get to the end of that time and go, oh my

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gosh, we can't do this again.

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This can't be our life every day.

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This is not fair to us, our kids or the people that we're trying to

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spend time with, want to love on us.

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And so we had to make some really big decisions.

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So we had a really tough conversation with my sister-in-law and we said, we love you.

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And we love spending time with you.

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And we love that you want to have a connection with our daughters.

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That's so important to us.

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We just can't do it on Christmas.

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We just can't make it happen.

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I'm so sorry.

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Is there another day that we could do this and have a brunch so that

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we honor you and we honor us.

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And she was really disappointed.

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She was really disappointed.

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And that was really hard because you want nothing more than to make the

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people you love feel happy and joyful.

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And so when you say no, there is grief there because there is a loss

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of something there's a loss or.

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Of an expectation or hope or tradition, something that was there

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that someone somewhere had hoped for.

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And the thing is there is a loss and a death either way.

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So if we had said yes and continued to see her amongst everything else on Christmas

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day, the loss would have been on that day.

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We would not have been able to engage.

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She would not have had the moment with our kids.

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So we chose to say, okay, it is a loss.

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It is a death by.

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There's a rebirth.

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Let's make a new tradition.

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Let's make two days before Christmas, your day, we'll be there with you.

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The focus is with you.

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We will have a brunch that will last because he loved time.

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We'll be there for four hours for brunch that could have been an all day situation.

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We'll just, we'll keep on going.

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It'll be delightful.

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We will have joy together and say, that's what we're doing.

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And it's beautiful, but it took a little bit of negotiation.

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Now, my other example for you here is to do with.

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I have a beautiful mum who is a gift giver.

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If you could have a look at the love languages and see the gift

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giving, if there was a scam.

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Of gift giving.

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She would like tip the scale.

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She would be off the end.

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She loves it, every part of it.

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So she finds gifts throughout the year for our children and just scurries them away

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and then brings them out on Christmas.

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And when we had two, we've got two little daughters and when they were

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quite little, they would have been maybe like two and four or three and five.

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I remember going over to house.

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And just feeling as though I had to Wade through the gifts to get to the

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Christmas tree that was submerged to some way of beneath it was like the

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star was pointing out on the top.

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It was unbelievable.

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And my dad would just shake his head and say, come on and

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find a spot wherever you can.

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And my mum would be glowing with joy.

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She had just found 72 gifts for every person in there.

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And it was just so tricky because it was all out of love.

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It's all out of love.

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I had.

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To her and have a conversation with her.

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And I did it in January because I knew she'd go to the sales.

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So I went to her and I said, okay, um, I just love how much you love our daughters.

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Thank you so much.

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It is such a gift that they get to have you and dad.

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I love the connection that they bring and I love how much

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you love them through gifts.

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That is that beautiful thing that you bring.

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That's not my love language.

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So I'm so glad that I get to have that from you.

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Here's the thing, the number of gifts they're getting from Denny and calls.

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Far outweigh the number of gifts they're getting from Santa Claus

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and mommy and daddy and all of their other relatives combined.

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This is a problem.

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They're not able to enjoy them.

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They're getting them all on one day.

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And instead of unwrapping one and having a delightful, joyous, plenty

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time with them, they're going great and checking in and grabbing the next one.

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And so I was like that doesn't fit with my value around how I want to raise our kids

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and how they really appreciate and have gratitude for these different parts of.

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Would it be okay if we set a cap number of gifts that you

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buy for our kid, that'd be okay.

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And she was a little bit hurt because there was loss and change there.

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It took her a day and a day later, she called me and she said, do

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you know what I think I get it?

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What if we have a cap plastic to five gifts per shot?

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Now to be honest, sometimes that she's talked a little gifts

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inside of books and cold at one.

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So I don't know that it's going to title me in.

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However, she even went further and said, what if we also do it on another day?

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So it's not like they receive all of these gifts at once on Christmas.

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We'll have a special nanny in puppy day and we'll give them this special gifts.

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Then a couple of days later, we'll do Christmas.

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And then that day can be all about you and St.

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Nicholas or Santa Claus and whatever you want to do that would that be okay?

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And I was flawed.

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I never thought that that would be a possibility.

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It was glorious and so generous of her.

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And it means now we have this season, everybody gets to have their values

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met, where everybody gets to have their needs met and where everybody's

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boundaries are respected because of.

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But it only happens because of some difficult conversations

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that need to happen.

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Now you'll conversations might not be about gifts.

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You may not have a crazy gift giver in your family.

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I don't know yours might be about timing.

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You will not be about the kind of jokes that people make at Christmas.

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You also might be about the amount of money that you spend on a secret Santa.

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It might be about the number of places you travel in one day.

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Here's my word for you.

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Say no without guilt so that you can say yes without resentment.

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I think Renee brown says beautifully.

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She says clear is kind unclear is unkind.

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You want to be kind to yourself and to be kind to your family.

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You want to be kind to the people that you're connecting

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with and you want to love them.

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So when you set a boundary, you don't say everything you're doing is wrong.

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And I hate you say thank you for all of the things that you're trying to do.

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I see it.

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And I accept all the love.

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You might need to do it slightly differently in order for this to be

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something that works for everybody.

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So as you're going through your event, you'll get resentment.

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Goodness.

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That was afforded, but it wasn't as you're going through advent.

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I want you to think of these three steps I value.

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So I need, and I will honor that by

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fairly beautiful.

Karen Doyle:

Thank you, Megan.

Karen Doyle:

I, um, I love how you've done those three steps.

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I think they're actually really, really helpful because I think you

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touched on something here and I think it's true for many women that

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we become the perpetual givers.

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And so we're giving dry.

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Um, without replenishing our own well, our own soul.

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And in the midst of the giving, we actually lose sight of what we value.

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Like I've met many women who don't even know what their dreams are, what their

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goals are, what they even enjoy to do, you know, Free time anymore because they're

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constantly just giving, giving, giving.

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And so it's about maintaining, coming back to this central place, but it's

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also about encountering Christ within us.

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Like that is the central place that we're going from.

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And I think boundaries is a tricky subject because we have like, there's

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the secular kind of notion of boundaries.

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It's like, look after you, number one, happiness for

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you, more empowerment to you.

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We compare that with like, I guess a Catholic, a Christian approach to

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boundaries boundaries is important in both fields, but when we're looking at

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it from this point of view of our faith and through the lens of faith, what we're

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saying is we're really valuing the image of God within us, the Christ within us.

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And we're also valuing the image of God within another.

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So it's not actually being selfish.

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It is like identifying needs and values, but doing that

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through the lens of our faith.

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And so.

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One thing I do want to pick up on is sometimes like I have encountered people.

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Who are very who pride themselves on their boundaries, but those boundaries can

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actually then be an excuse for selfishness and self-centeredness to flip the whole

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thing on its head that can also happen.

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And so I think as we're going to Christmas, this idea of boundaries is

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very important because we lose our peace.

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We lose a sense of Christ within us when we're trying to meet everybody's needs.

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And I think.

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Do this particularly, but then it's also sort of asking the Lord, I guess,

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the areas where we need to put up those boundaries, where he wants us

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to, I guess, reclaim some space with him to have healthier relationships.

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And then also asking what can I reasonably do?

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To others.

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So what can I give to the sister-in-law or the mother or the

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brother-in-law that's reasonable for me and my family during this time.

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And how is that going to honor myself?

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So I think what you've given us a really great and beautiful practical tools and

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insights into how we approach Christmas and how we can prepare for crisis.

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To come into us at Christmas through, I guess our actions

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in our key relationships, it's really, really exciting.

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Yes.

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He's still ride.

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Yes.

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All of that is the image of God.

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I think you've just nailed it.

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There.

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It's the image of God in me and the image of God in you and how we

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honor them both at the same time.

Karen Doyle:

Absolutely.

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And I think, you know, every single person we encounter, is it a little glimpse

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of Christ's coming to us in the world.

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And so when we're looking at, and when we're encountering other people,

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I think if we can do that from the position of, you know, approaching this.

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From Christ within us Christ within them and how we can love them.

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And this idea of love.

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I think I just also want to pick up on, because you know, the secular

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world, you know, I love is this feeling you feel, but we know that

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as women of faith, like this idea of love is often a decision that we make

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sometimes in spite of how we're feeling.

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But like you said, it's to give our yes.

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To give our know in a way that.

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That image of Christ.

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So beautiful.

Karen Doyle:

Megan, thank you so much.

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Ask you to say a prayer just over the women in this area and over their

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relationships as they come into Christmas and in the journal for this week, there'll

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be a few reflection points to ponder for women around their relationships and

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how they can, I guess, put into practice the things that you've highlighted.

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If I could ask you to just pray protection over the women, that would

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be some lately.

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I'd love to the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit.

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Amen.

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Come holy spirit.

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Well, Jesus, we thank you so much for this state credit precious, joyful season of

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advent, season of waiting and delight.

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As we just look with anticipation in your arrival, we ask for

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your blessing protection.

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I got all of the women who are watching and listening to this today.

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He asked me a blessing over their heart, over their families,

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over their relationships, all of the pieces that they.

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Paying off debt and taking care of as they prepare for Christmas.

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Lord, we ask that you are just so present tangibly, sorry to them during the season.

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And they arrive at your bed at Christmas, feeling refreshed, joyful,

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and ready to welcome you to their life.

Karen Doyle:

Well, ladies, I hope that that talk by Meagan has really invited you

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into a space of reflection or reflection on what your values are, what your

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needs are, and perhaps the steps that you're going to take to really honor.

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The image of God within you and the image of God within those people around you.

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This Christmas to go a little deeper with this content and to reflect on how you

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can practically apply these in your life.

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I invite you to download the beautiful PDF advent journal

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that we have created for you.

Karen Doyle:

Take this to prayer and really invite the Lord under the gaze of the holy

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spirit to reveal the areas in your life where he is inviting you into a deeper

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relationship with him and a deeper relationship of honoring yourself and

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those that you do life with next week.

Karen Doyle:

Ladies is our final week with sister Mary Rachel.

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So until next week, ladies have a beautiful week and God bless you.