So, hi everyone.
Speaker AWelcome to the summer Toolkit series.
Speaker ASo over the month of August, I'm going to be taking a little break from the podcast.
Speaker AI think with the book coming out and just lots going on, I really want to be able to just have a little bit of a break, breathe, try and process what's happened with the, with the book and actually listen to my own advice because sometimes we all just need to breathe and decompress a little bit.
Speaker ASo that's what I'm hoping.
Speaker AOver August, however, I have so much content and so many things that I still want to share with you.
Speaker AMy amazing team have put together some shorter clips from different workshops and different episodes that we are bringing together.
Speaker AWe're trying to keep it themed of the chapters of the book, so really to give you these insights and just a bit more in depth understanding so you can hopefully while you're on holiday or you're at home with the kids, whatever you're doing, you're able to still get your fix of the ADHD Women's Wellbeing podcast.
Speaker AThis is a snippet of a Toolkit episode, which was one of the subscription podcasts that I launched a while ago and I wanted to share some of these workshops from over this time for the summer.
Speaker ASo you're gonna expect a new toolkit snippet every Thursday throughout August and going into early September.
Speaker AHopefully by then I'll be ready, refreshed and excited to come back and you're gonna hear a range of different topics.
Speaker ASo covering loads of different areas from adhd, hormones, relationships, mindset, tools, blending it all together with so much expert knowledge.
Speaker AI'm really excited for this series.
Speaker ASo here is a snippet of a Toolkit episode with my good friend Catherine Tiddy, who is a positive psychologist, expert and coach.
Speaker AShe's done a Masters in Positive Psychology and she's also the founder of the Work Happy Project.
Speaker AWhat you're going to get from this episode with Katherine is a bit of an introduction to positive psychology and how to use it in your everyday life and how to move forwards from being in a place of pain, trauma, challenges, and why using this can help you work with your strengths, which is such a powerful thing for ADHD women because we have lived for a long time with these challenges and this is now about reframing what we've gone through and using this for our resilience, for our inner strength, and hopefully moving forwards with more positivity and deep self acceptance.
Speaker ASo this is all about understanding how we can use positive, positive psychology strategies and to shift from that negative thinking and building lasting resilience and self worth that we can utilize a lot of the healing path that we've gone through for good.
Speaker ASo here it is.
Speaker BProbably the best way to describe positive psychology to people who maybe aren't aware of it or aren't specifically aware of it is if you think about traditional psychology and psychologists, they will operate at trying to fix or heal mental illness.
Speaker BSo if you imagine a continuum between sort of a minus 10 here and a positive 10 here with zero in the middle, psychology as normal will focus on how do we heal people with mental illness.
Speaker BAnd between minus 10, those suffering, those struggling with mental health up to zero.
Speaker BBeing a healthy functioning human, positive psychology goes from zero to plus 10.
Speaker BSo it's about how do we take somebody from that healthy I. E. Not mentally ill state, but help them flourish.
Speaker BSo I very much operate in this zero plus 10.
Speaker BSo it's the science of human flourishing.
Speaker BIt's very science based.
Speaker BSo as much as I love some of the more woo woo sort of manifestation and all I always seek to kind of pull it back to yeah, but why, why does that work and how in the.
Speaker BWhat's going on in the brain and that's ultimately what I help people do really is get from.
Speaker BAs I would describe, I was in myself, this sort of languishing state, this state where nothing's terrible, nothing.
Speaker BYou're not suffering, you're not necessarily in a.
Speaker BIn a very bad situation.
Speaker BBut you know, there's more to life.
Speaker BThat sort of feeling of how do I unlock and uncover what actually will help me flourish as a human.
Speaker BAnd that's why I called the business what I did as, you know, it's that, you know, you were with me in the inception of it of that kind of like, what's this all about?
Speaker BAnd it is around, you know, how do I help people lift themselves out of that languishing state where they just.
Speaker BAnd I see it so many times with clients, you know, we're just on this treadmill.
Speaker BIt's crap.
Speaker BWe're in perhaps midlife, wherever we are in our working careers.
Speaker BAnd we just think I just got to get through to retirement age.
Speaker BI mean at the age of sub 40, I was like, how do I retire?
Speaker BWhen do I retire?
Speaker BHow can I get there?
Speaker BThat now isn't really a thought for me.
Speaker BI don't see myself ever retiring and that, you know, I feel like that's a really privileged, lovely position to be in.
Speaker BAnd that's, you know, I set off on My own work, happy project.
Speaker BAnd now to be able to help others do that is amazing.
Speaker BSo that's what the business.
Speaker AI mean, it's so inspiring to hear this and, you know, that's why I think you and I are on such a similar page, is that, you know, this is what I have set my business up as.
Speaker AYou know, like, after we get this diagnosis, it's like, okay, we've lived life potentially in this languishing state that you mentioned, but often much worse because we don't even know what's going on.
Speaker AWe don't understand ourselves.
Speaker AAnd so it's been challenging, it's been difficult.
Speaker AWe then get the diagnosis.
Speaker AAnd actually, you know, you talk about this post traumatic growth, we want to go in that direction, but very often we're stuck in the what ifs and it could have been this way and if someone had helped me.
Speaker AAnd there's a lot of grief and there's a lot of sadness and anger and resentment and we, we have to move through that.
Speaker ABut then I, like, want to help.
Speaker ASo we sort of like recognize, okay, yes, these, all these things did happen, but then it's like, okay, right, how can we grow, how can we thrive, how can we flourish like you say?
Speaker ASo I'd be interested to know a little bit more about this post traumatic growth, because I think this is really relevant today.
Speaker BYeah, because I think it is.
Speaker BIt's that the first step comes with realizing the current reality of, you know, this is where I am now, this is my maybe new set of circumstances.
Speaker BLike you say, you know, that kind of post diagnosis of this is.
Speaker BThis is what I'm dealing with here.
Speaker BAnd that is never going to be easy.
Speaker BOur brains don't like being in this state of flux, don't like change.
Speaker BSo when we're in this sort of scenario, that acceptance, you know, is, is the first and really difficult stage to go through.
Speaker BBut it's then helping people understand, okay, so this is what I am and this is where I am, but actually what do I want to choose to do from here?
Speaker BAnd I think, you know, I talk with clients a lot about this is we have agency and choice in our lives.
Speaker BNot always, and it's not always fair and it's not always equally shared.
Speaker BBut where can you see kind of that ability to choose and what support do you need?
Speaker BProbably most importantly to think about what that could look like.
Speaker BYou know, I don't mind sharing.
Speaker BI'm going through this process currently with my son with regard to ADHD diagnoses.
Speaker BAnd I See in him such super strengths that I hope I can really help him see.
Speaker BAnd strengths.
Speaker BAnd understanding your own strengths is a massive, massive part of this.
Speaker BIt's one of the sort of fundamental jigsaw pieces of positive psychology is not a focus on the weakness or the deficit or the things that aren't good or that aren't right.
Speaker BIt's how do we shine a light on all of the really positive things and the elements of you that absolutely can shine.
Speaker BAnd it's helping individuals then find those, understand those, because we quite often have what's called strengths blindness.
Speaker BYou know, people aren't very.
Speaker BYou can reel off your weaknesses, but we're not very good at identifying our strengths.
Speaker BThat's where I often start with clients, is that sort of first base of let's really understand what lights you up.
Speaker BAnd it's not just what am I good at?
Speaker BOh, well, I'm good at blah or I'm good at presenting or I'm good at teamwork or whatever it is.
Speaker BThey're kind of learned behaviors.
Speaker BAnd quite often our careers are based on learned behaviors.
Speaker BSo actually, coming back to it's not about what can I do and what can I do?
Speaker BWell, it's about what really lights me up and energizes me as opposed to depletes energy.
Speaker BAnd it's understanding that.
Speaker BThat I think certainly for a lot of people, and especially those with any form of neurodiversity, it's understanding what are the things they're really good at and how can they really do more of that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd I'm not saying we can easily ignore our weaknesses, but we can absolutely dial them down and find solutions.
Speaker BIt's about managing your weaknesses and really shining a light on.
Speaker BOn those strengths and then managing that into something that looks more fulfilling for that individual.
Speaker AThis is what I talk about all the time.
Speaker AAnd you mentioned the word deficit.
Speaker AObviously that's part of the terminology of adhd.
Speaker AAnd that in itself is so damaging.
Speaker AWe get this diagnosis.
Speaker AThe stigma and the taboo is there from the name alone.
Speaker AAttention deficits.
Speaker BYou've already been told there's something wrong with you, wrong order.
Speaker AWe have an abundance of attention in the stuff that lights us up.
Speaker AAnd, you know, the amount of entrepreneurs.
Speaker AThere are successful people with ADHD because they've channeled, they've outsourced, they've got support, they've got the help for the more, you know, more challenging parts of their life or personality.
Speaker AAnd then we've got the.
Speaker AWhat you sort of said is that we can.
Speaker AWe Sort of tend to hone in on our weaknesses.
Speaker AThe ADHD side of us.
Speaker AWe tend to go down that negativity bias.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd I know we're going to talk about this where we.
Speaker AIf we're having a bad day, a bad week or energy slow, we've not slept properly, we've not eaten enough, we've overworked, we're feeling burnt out, hormones massive.
Speaker ALike this is a huge part of the conversation.
Speaker AThat negativity bias feels much stronger.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd we kind of go down that thought loop and the catastrophizing and the worrying and the anxiety and all of a sudden the stuff that we thought we were really good at or we thought really lit us up.
Speaker AAll of a sudden it's like, no, we want to shut it down in life.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd this can be a monthly cycle for many women, you know, who identify and I know you work with.
Speaker AWith that.
Speaker ASo is that when positive psychology, like that's when we need to bring in those.
Speaker AThe heavy arm.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd that's how I love to think about it.
Speaker BAnd when I'm talking with clients about it, it's a toolkit.
Speaker BIt is not the answer or the solution to everything.
Speaker BI live and breathe this stuff.
Speaker BI still have bad days.
Speaker BI still have days where I want to give up and I think I can't do anything.
Speaker BYou know, that that is part of being human.
Speaker BAnd it's interesting.
Speaker BYou talk about, you know, the negativity thinking bias.
Speaker BYou probably heard these stats.
Speaker B70, 80% of our thoughts are negative and they're negative for a good reason.
Speaker BOur brain's primary function is to keep us alive and to keep us safe.
Speaker BUnfortunately, it's rubbish as a detector of what actually is a risk and what isn't.
Speaker BSo quite often we'll perceive risks and we will.
Speaker BWe'll create stories based on all sorts of different thoughts and remember and experiences and everything will come up.
Speaker BBut it's the negative seeds that we'll find.
Speaker BSo we finally.
Speaker BThese automatic negative thoughts, or ants is a nice little analogy for it.
Speaker BThese automatic thoughts pop in and they can be really destructive because the negativity thinking bias then has us into these spirals and we can very, very easily spiral down and incredibly quickly.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo the types of tools and strategies, therapy and those sort of.
Speaker BMore psychology.
Speaker BCognitive based.
Speaker BYou might have heard of cognitive based therapy and you know, obviously I know that you're an expert in the EFT and the tapping and lots and lots of different ways to understand those thought patterns and to try and work again.
Speaker BYou know, work at finding reasons and logics that, that go against them.
Speaker BBut ultimately it's noticing in the first place that they're actually sabotaging you before they've taken you too far with it.
Speaker BAnd ultimately, you know, that really is.
Speaker BAnd, and I work with clients a lot around resilience because it's building up this ability to bounce back and bounce back that little bit quicker is the positive approach to that attack, if you like, of negative thinking.
Speaker BIt's almost, it's that sort of breaks on, spot it and then regulate and enable your body to regulate quickly enough to catch you before it's too, or not, not too late, but you know, before you then miles down that lane, like you said, in terms of I'm just gonna, what am I doing with this course?
Speaker BI'm just gonna, everything's rubbish and I'm just going to give up.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BHow do we sort of catch those?
Speaker BAnd this is where so many of the tools that you can kind of have in your positive psych kind of tool bag, if you like, can really support, but they're so different, you know.
Speaker BAnd this is where in my humble opinion, no two brains are the same.
Speaker BSo how we can have a normal brain and a subnormal brain or a deficit brain, as you said, it doesn't make sense to me because everybody's brain is a connection of thoughts, experiences that are all super, super personal to them.
Speaker BSo it follows suit that the tools and techniques that you can use to support yourself to move towards a more positive state aren't going to be uniform for everyone.
Speaker BWhat might be in your toolkit might be completely different to what's in my toolkit.
Speaker BWhat I love about positive psychology is it's all evidence based and it's all research based.
Speaker BSo what we do know is there is really sound grounding behind these strategies that make sense of, you know, hormones and make sense of neurotransmitters and the way that our brain operates and connects.
Speaker BSo it's about identifying the ones that work for you as an individual, which takes a bit of playing around with.
Speaker AYeah, I mean, what you're saying that, you know, that makes huge sense because like you say, we're all wired differently with the ADHD brain.
Speaker AWould you say that the positive psychology tools are a great way of navigating us towards what is truly authentic to us?
Speaker BYeah, absolutely.
Speaker BAnd I think that you take strengths as an example.
Speaker BIt's about almost coming home to yourself, which I know sounds a little bit contrite, but it's about Accepting who you are, it's about embracing who you are and it's about understanding what are those strengths that you can lead with and also what support structure do you need around you that is going to enable you to not fall over at the first hurdle and.
Speaker BAnd to start berating yourself.
Speaker BBecause it's almost at that point that if you can almost stop that point occurring, you then not likely to hit that downward spiral.
Speaker BBut it's.
Speaker BIt almost feels like a real privilege to stumble across something that you love doing.
Speaker BAnd that's why I get so much satisfaction from the job that I do, because I get to help people find it.
Speaker BAnd there's a bit of a myth that you need to find your passion, you need to find your purpose, in my belief.
Speaker BAnd I think we're both good examples of this.
Speaker BYou find it through playing with it and through trying stuff and through, dare I say, failing at stuff and, you know, or giving up on stuff or whatever.
Speaker BYou find what it is that actually is that thing that gets you in.
Speaker BWhat we talk about in psychology and positive psychology is into that state of flow, which is what you're talking about, you lose all sense of time.
Speaker BYou feel fantastic, nothing.
Speaker BEverything else pairs away in the world.
Speaker BYou just lost in the moment doing what you're doing.
Speaker BAnd what I would always say to people I'm working with is seek out, notice those when you feel in that state.
Speaker BAnd then it's about doing more of what you love.
Speaker BAnd you'll have heard me talk about this, you know, it's not about doing more for the sake of doing more.
Speaker BIt's about going, what do I.
Speaker BAnd I love this phrase because I think it just is so easy and so helpful.
Speaker BWhat do I need right now?
Speaker BAnd you know, that might be to sit down and do absolutely nothing.
Speaker BThat might be to go for a run, that might be to drink a big glass of water.
Speaker BThat might be to go and cry to your friend.
Speaker BYou know, it might be a whole host of different solutions, but the more that we notice, what helps us flick that switch almost of starting to feel a little bit more hopeful, feel a little bit more optimistic and getting it into your toolkit.
Speaker BSo a really simple thing to do is to think about.
Speaker BAnd this helps address strengths, it helps address what I'm talking about here of what is it that I'm doing when I feel at my absolute best.
Speaker BAnd that might be hobbies, that might be running, that might be swimming, that might be sewing, that might be gardening.
Speaker BIt might whatever it is, Hence why it'll Always be so different and actually keeping note of all of these things that do actually help us make that transition and help us kind of get into the state of flow and noticing what it is that gets us there can be a really useful, very simple sort of tool to enable you to kind of lean into just doing more of those, more of those things and moving away more from the automatic responses that we tend to do when we get into stress response response, such as scrolling Instagram, which just fires up your comparisonitis, goes through the roof.
Speaker BBut to actually know what is in your personal wellbeing toolkit, it's thinking through and learning what you as an individual and noticing how you relate to stuff.
Speaker BSo say, for example, like, if I'm overly excited about something, I also have to manage that.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBecause that can otherwise lead me to work like a dog and then I end up knackered.
Speaker BYeah, I relate to that one.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt's also about like, if I feel that kind of, oh my God.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BI could do this, I can do this and I want to do this, I want to do that.
Speaker BI'll take myself off and go and work, go for a walk or go for a run.
Speaker BA run is a really good way that I've learned that when I'm feeling that kind of real excitement, I can go for a run and then I can come back and go, right.
Speaker BOkay, this is what I need to do.
Speaker BAnd it all becomes clearer because quite often when we are in that sort of very, very energized state, engagement and fear sit.
Speaker BExcitement and fear sit very close to each other, tip over either way.
Speaker BAnd actually our prefrontal cortex, that's logic, that's order, that's organizing is impaired.
Speaker BAnything that we can do to regulate whether that's, you know, a lot of common, well being tools.
Speaker BSo whether that's mindfulness, whether that's breathing techniques, whether that's journaling, you know, all of these are what you need to kind of almost determine work or don't work for you.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWhat I mean, what you just described then I think so many of us can relate to is like that Tigger energy of like, so excited.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd we get that a lot.
Speaker ALike, we get these kind of like downloads of like, oh my God, if I just did this and I did that.
Speaker AAnd actually very often they do pay off when we get that kind of intuitive hit.
Speaker AYou know, I typically get it in the shower.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ASame like I've had shampoo in my hair and I need to get my phone because if I don't get my phone, I'll forget it.
Speaker ABut you're so right.
Speaker AThat fears, that massive surge of energy sometimes skews some of the things like the practical and the logic.
Speaker AAnd you talk about the prefrontal cortex.
Speaker AOh, that's a big part of our executive functioning with adhd.
Speaker ASo it's so interlinked positive psychology and ADHD really, because the way we can understand our brain, we can work with it as opposed to, you know, kind of go, oh, I've had this great idea, but actually how am I going to do that and how I'm going to do this?
Speaker AScrap it, and I'm just going to be sat there.
Speaker AAnd that often leads.
Speaker AYou know, we hear a lot about low mood and depression, anxiety and just feeling really despondent with ADHD because we have these big ideas, but our executive functioning then gets in the way and we can't take it to the next level.
Speaker AWhat would you suggest if someone's sort of relating to this, they have all this like excitable energy and then the prefrontal cortex does get impaired.
Speaker BI think again, you know, there's not a one strategy fits all solution.
Speaker BI think there's, there's.
Speaker BAnd it depends to what degree you're activated or energized, whichever way you want to look at it.
Speaker BAnd I always think work with people around sort of energy levels from a extreme sort of point of view.
Speaker BSo I use scaling quite a lot.
Speaker BSo I'll.
Speaker BI'll say so, you know, on a scale of 1 to 10, where are you in terms of, you know, your whatever it might be?
Speaker BSo say if you are feeling an 8 or a 9 in excitement, we can do this to ourselves.
Speaker BYou know, I do it all the time, right.
Speaker BYou know, not to turn where I'm at the moment.
Speaker BI'm an eight, right?
Speaker BI'm an eight.
Speaker BYeah, I know if I'm an eight, I need to run or I need to do something that's quite active.
Speaker BNumber two, I need to probably just shut my laptop and go for a walk with the dog or, you know, do something that, you know, if I'm a two or a three, actually, the right thing to do for me can sometimes be to get my journal out and to actually think.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BOkay, if I was to do this, what's the first step I've got to take?
Speaker BAnd again, you know, very familiar with coaching for anybody that's had it will be this sort of concept of, you know, I was vision it as a staircase.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWhat is the very first step that I'VE got to take here because this, this massive idea that you're so energized about feels massive.
Speaker BIt's like, how do I get there?
Speaker BAnd then your brain starts pinging around the, like you say the, the kind of, yeah, right.
Speaker BWho are you to do this?
Speaker BAnd somebody's already doing that.
Speaker BAnd all of that negativity that jumps in.
Speaker BWhereas actually to step on that very first step of the stairs isn't as scary.
Speaker BSo it does.
Speaker BYour brain doesn't instantly trigger that stress response.
Speaker BYeah, it's going, okay, so maybe I just need to put that idea out to a couple of mates and see what they think, okay, I can do that.
Speaker BDone Dopamine.
Speaker BBecause we've achieved, and it's quite often we are just playing with these, like, neurotransmitters in our mind, thinking, okay, well, if I walk, that's going to give me a hit of serotonin.
Speaker BIf I do this, that's going to give me a hit of dopamine.
Speaker BSo the other benefit to breaking things down, if you feel you can get into that sort of, I suppose more cognitive state of thinking things through, is almost just staircase it out and just go, right, what's the first step?
Speaker BOh, I can do that.
Speaker BI've done that.
Speaker BBrilliant.
Speaker BWhat's next?
Speaker BAnd actually just really simplifying and pairing it right back.
Speaker AIf this episode has been helpful for you and you're looking for more tools and more guidance, my brand new book, the ADHD Women's Wellbeing Toolkit, is out now.
Speaker AYou can find it wherever you buy your books from.
Speaker AYou can also check out the Organization audiobook if you do prefer to listen to me.
Speaker AI have narrated it all myself.
Speaker AThank you so much for being here and I will see you for the next episode.