Hey everybody. Welcome back to Monday's edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. Happy Monday to you all. Yep. And our ladies are back. They had a women's retreat this past weekend. Hopefully it went really well. We are trusting that it is. We are actually recording a day earlier than we normally do because you and I have dad duty tomorrow because our wives are down there learning about how to use their words for encouragement, words for holiness, words for. Conflict resolution should be, do we have titles for these messages? Do we know? Probably yes. We someone has them. Yes, but do we have them? That's a different question. That's, yeah. My wife has two of the titles. Do I have, that's why I was figuring You might know, but that's okay. Yeah. I'm sure we'll find out later. Yeah. And they're recording these. They're recording them. Of video or audio? They're both. They're, I believe, just doing audio. Okay. So that's still All right. We can still upload them later, right? Yeah. And actually Louis Zuma is at the whole women's retreat. He's Wow. Down there helping them with tech and sound and what a gentleman he is. Yeah. What a great guy. Yeah. Thank you Louis. I think his wife is rooming still with another woman at the That's okay. To have the women's retreat experience that's expected. Sure. But he's down there, so he's serving and serving the Lord down there. So there you go. That's super cool. Yeah, well done Lewis. We appreciate it. It very much, Steve Yang is also gonna be down there helping to get everything set up well, at least on Friday. Well done Steve. Thank you for doing that. Yeah. But hopefully it's a great retreat and our women have come back refreshed, excited and ready to apply God's word. If somebody. Not of the woman persuasion. Yes. Wanted to listen to these messages. Is he allowed to do that? Would you be okay with someone listening to Amanda's or Kayla? I'm guessing Kayla's preaching too. Kayla is, yeah. Is it okay to listen to their messages? I would say no. Really? Yeah. Ah, do explain, because it is a, an extension of the context of the church. It's not a classroom, it's not a, hey, this the, this school, my kid's school is hosting this event that this person is speaking out over here. It's the context of the church. And so as such, I think Paul's words to Timothy that he does not permit a woman to instruct or to exercise authority over a man. I think it still applies in this context. Could you say, and I guess to clarify what we're saying, is listening for the purposes of instruction and edification, and even application, that's what you're getting at. So is it possible then that a guy could listen and say this is different. She's not in the pulpit, she's not preaching at me, she's preaching to women. I'm listening in I'm a fly on the wall, as it were, and I'm just. Hearing what she's saying and maybe there's a couple things that I think, oh, that's really helpful. Oh, that's insightful. I could still utilize that without necessarily submitting to her authority. Is that a fair argument or would you take issue with that? I would still probably take issue there. Yeah. Reasons being, because I believe it's instruction, at least at minimum, it's instruction whether or not you're submitting to authority. It's instruction. And Paul's admonition says, I do not permit a woman to instruct or to exercise authority over a man. So would you say then that instruction inherently is an exercise of authority? Yes. So it's impossible then. And I guess, let me back up. I don't wanna set you up to go into a pit here, isn't it? Isn't it also possible to be in an instructive environment where someone is not exercising authority, at least spiritual authority? If I'm in a geometry class and my professor's a woman, yes. If I'm in a bible class at DTS Yes. And she's teaching me on the book of Joel or something like that. Yes. What, I'm sorry, I forgot the question. Yes. Is possible that you can be in an instructive environment where the authority of the church is not imbued. Okay. So you, okay. You qualified it. Authority of the church is it therefore a possibility to be under a woman's instruction Who? Perhaps is gifted in this or that area, Hebrew or Greek or whatever else, and I'm receiving from her, but still not have the same kind of ecclesiastical authority that we're referring to. So it's still church content. It's our Bible, it's Greek, it's Hebrew. It's something like that. But I'm not submitting to her in the same way that I would if you were in the pulpit and I were receiving instruction. Yes, except that I believe that it's a, it's that. Pulpit authority extends beyond the realm of just the pulpit on Sunday mornings. So I believe that, again, because this falls within the ministries of the local church, the Paul's instructions to Timothy apply across the ministries of the local church when it comes to men being instructed by women. So in other words. I think she's, she is in a position of authority over women, and that's something that as pastors, we've said, Hey, we want you to fulfill this role and serve in this capacity right now. And so that's what she's doing there. And that's a realm that we said go and do. I don't believe that it's appropriate for men to. Go and sit in that context and not because of the content. The content could be great. The content could be fine, the content could be edifying, but I do think it's a disorder of what God's design for the church is for men to go and seek construction in that context. In that context, I would agree with you. It would not be appropriate for a guy to attend a women's retreat and hear the preaching. But I think I'd be a, I don't know. I guess I don't wanna, I don't wanna make a law where there's no law, but I do think perhaps there's, I could listen to a sermon by a woman who tackles a particular subject and I know her to be a phenomenal Bible teacher, right? I could say, oh, that's helpful information. I'm gonna utilize that idea, or that concept, or that, that framing without receiving. The ecclesiastical authority that she may have in that environment and in that context for that audience. But I think that the authority of the preaching event stays with the message. The authority of the preaching event stays with the message. Okay, so I. YY Okay. If someone listens to one of your sermons Yes. And you're telling the church, yes. Hey, church, I want you to go do A, B, C, and D, that's one of your application points. Yes. But they go to a different church and or they're just, they want to hear what we're talking about because they're thinking about visiting our church. Would you not dis distinguish between those two things versus if they come into our church? And I think that even that's that one could be qualified too, because someone could come to our church and say, I'm here. I'm here to listen. But I'm not submitting to the authority. Participating, but without submitting to the authority, I guess I'm speaking more of the inherent authority of the pulpit. It transfers with the message. So whether or not somebody submits to that authority is a, is an issue between them and the Lord. But when I look at the authority of the event itself just like you said, we wouldn't tell men to go to a women's event and sit under the teaching. I think that same prohibition carries with that message even after that message is complete and now it's stored online. Okay. Yeah, I think I'm still noodling over that. I'm not sure. I get it. I get your point. The authority of the pulpit inherent to the message. I could see that and I could see being in the context where I'm receiving it. I guess your point seems to carry, or at least insinuate that even if I'm serving. The audio or I'm doing some kind of, some kind of service support role in that environment that perhaps you're in a complicated situation. Yeah. And there's been people that have got carried that to the extreme. And I think that you can be in that setting and not be listening for instruction and not be listening actively to the message and be there to serve, to make sure that the microphones aren't gonna go haywire, to make sure that things aren't going. I don't know as a man in that situation that I would have my notebook out taking notes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting information there. Yeah and we've talked about it because one of the leading commentators for First Peter is a woman, Karen Joe, and so we've talked about it as pastors. Is it. Does it cross complimentary lines to consult a female in the context of a commentary? And that's where I would say no, because it's not a preaching event. It's not the same as, it's not the church context. It's more of an academic work, which doesn't, those lines are pretty blurry, bro but they're not, because Karen job is not a pastor. Karen job is not writing a sermon. Not Neither's, Amanda, she's preaching. But she's preaching under pastoral authority. Okay. Karen job is not writing under pastoral authority. She's not commissioned by a church to say, I want you to write this for the instruction of the church within the context of the church. She, I I don't know Karen personally but I do know that she did, she does do a lot of teaching and I guess you'd call it preaching in front of ladies right. At her church. So she has some kind of church covering, I guess you could say it, and. I'm sure she has her pastor's approval, or at least his tacit encouragement to contribute in ways like this to the broader church. But Baker Exegetical commentary is Baker Exegetical commentary. It's not Baker Baptist Church, that's saying, Hey, we're putting this out. So for me to read what Karen says on a text is not reading Karen preaching to me on this text. It's reading an academic commentary on the nature of the text that, that I'm studying. You qualified earlier the teaching or having authority. So is she not teaching you though? But the context of the church is what matters. You're in the context of the church. She's teaching you and you're leading the church, but not in a teaching event in the church. So there is, there are. There is the church being the church, and then there are different components, right? Like my education, you brought up the seminary classroom. Yeah. We've been influenced by the seminary classroom. I had female professors at Dallas in my seminary. My Hebrew professor, Dorian Cooper Cox was a female. She influences me as a pastor. But she's not in the role of. Exercising authority. It's like when Mueller talks about do we boycott Target because of pride month? And he's then you have to boycott, Mar Walmart and you have to go to the second and third and fourth levels of accountability there. I do believe there are separations in levels of authority when I'm consulting Karen Jobes versus when I'm sitting under the preaching of a woman, whether it's listening to her sermon or whether it's attending in person. Karen Jobes is not. Putting herself in a position of ecclesiastical authority. She's putting herself in a position of the authority of a commentary of academic insight and authority in that context. I'm not saying she never does, but I'm saying in that context with that book, that's what she's doing. That's helpful. Input that. Yeah, man, I didn't think we were gonna get there. You even said let's start this one and make these episodes shorter. We have five minutes then to get through. Daniel. Seven through nine. I'll leave you to it then. I'm going on mute. Alright, Daniel. Seven Daniel's got a dream and there's gonna be a lot of these visions and dreams that Daniel's gonna have and the coming chapters here. And this one contains a vision of four beasts. You've got the lion, you've got the bear, you've got the leopard, and then this fourth terrifying beast. The lion we believe to be Babylon. The bear would be Medo Persia, the leopard would be Greece. And then this fourth terrifying beast is, the, there's near and far implications here, but what's really gonna emerge from this fourth beast is the vision of the antichrist and a lot of the end times information that's going to happen. The fourth beast is eventually going to be killed and turned over and destroyed. You've got this amazing scene here in Daniel chapter seven of the one, like the son of man appearing before the ancient of days. The one like the son of man being the Messiah, being Jesus. That's why when Jesus claimed the title Son of Man, there was so much weight behind that and the Jewish people recognized. Is that, and he's gonna set up this kingdom as Daniel seven is talking about. This is the fifth Kingdom back in the Nebuchadnezzar statue at the very beginning of the book in chapter two. This fifth kingdom that's never gonna end. It's an everlasting kingdom, an everlasting dominion. It will never pass away and it will not be destroyed. Daniel's shaken by this dream, this vision he has in verse 15. And then it's interpreted and they lay out. This is the four kings. This is gonna be this. Fourth beast has the 10 horns, and there's a another horn that's gonna rise up. This is verse 24. This is the antichrist. Different from the ones that came before speaking. Words blaspheming against the most high. And again, he's gonna wear out the saints the most high, and he's gonna be doing this. The saints that is are gonna be given into his hand for a time. Times and half a time. This is in verse 25. That's three and a half years. One time is one year times two years and a half a time. Three and a half years. This is the back half of the tribulation. And this is going to be until at the very end the fifth king comes. And that is the ancient of days. That's the, or the son of man brother, that this is the Messiah. This is the messianic kingdom that he's gonna set up. They're at the end of chapter seven. Daniel chapter seven is critical for you to know specifically for verses 13 and 14. Some of this stuff around this are challenging, and I understand that one of the best ways that you can read Daniel seven is to read the whole thing and then go back and read it again. Yeah, because Daniel gets information and explanation. In the second half of the chapter and you start to get a better sense of what he's saying in the first half. But what you should highlight in your Bible, and one section that you should know backward and forward is Daniel seven 13 and 14. One of Jesus' most important and favorite designations for himself is Son of man. And this is where he gets it from. So whenever Jesus says the son of man came to seek and to save the lost, he's not. Being entirely humble as we think He is humble. He's perfectly humble. The fact that he's a man which demonstrates his humility, but when he uses the designation, son of man, he's not using that. In contrast to Son of God saying, I am only a son of man. I'm just humbly, humble lowly me, little old me. He's not saying that at all. He's in fact claiming the title for himself, son of man from Daniel chapter seven, verses 13 and 14, which is an exalted title. Let's not make any mistake about that. This is a big deal. Daniel seven 13 and 14, critical that, so that when you see it in your Bible, and Jesus says, the son of man came to oh, he's talking about himself being the one who receives all honor, glory, power, and praise. Praise be to Jesus Christ. This son a man, by the way, if you want the TLDR version of chapter seven, it's found in verses 17 through 18. It says, these four great beasts are four kings who shall rise outta the earth, but the saints in the most high shall receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever and ever. That's the summary of what Daniel sees with this vision, this dream. In chapter seven, what is TLDR? Too long didn't read. So don't uptake that approach to scripture, but it's just the slang of the day. Yeah. TLDR. Yeah. Alright, chapter eight, then we get another vision. This time there's only two involved here and there's a, we didn't note it when pastor Mark and I were going through this, but the book of Daniel contains multiple languages. It's both Hebrew and Aramaic. And so the Hebrew shows back up here in chapter eight after the last time we were in Hebrew was. Chapter two, verse four. And so there's been a lot of Aramaic. We probably attribute that to the fact that Daniel was serving in Babylon in a multicultural setting. And so he was employing a language that would've been understandable by more than just a handful of people at the time. But yeah. He's back in Hebrew here in chapter eight, and he sees these two beasts. And the first one is a ram, and the second one is going to be a goat. And so the ram with the two horns is going to be, again, mito Persia, the dual empire there. And then you've got the goat and the goat with the singular horn that emerges. There is gonna be Greece and that singular horn, that the great horn that comes from the goat is Alexander the Great. And then from there we read that. That horn is shattered and four kingdoms are gonna arise in verse 22. From that place, from that nation, from Greece and Alexander the greats kingdom, his empire was divided into four territories. From one of those territories is gonna come another another strong king. A king with a bold face. This is going to be the man Antiochus epiphanies, who's important for you to remember. He's gonna show up quite a bit between now and the end of the book. He's the one that marches into Jerusalem and sets up the abomination of desolation. He's the one that goes after God's people. He's the one that sets the stage for the Maccabean Revolt during the Intertestamental period. And so in Tke is epiphanies is an evil person, and Daniel's getting a vision in chapter eight of the fact that he's coming, that Greece is going to come against. Meet a Persia in that the arrival of Alexander the Great is going to assemble, eventually make its way to tikis epiphanies and TKIs. Epiphanies is gonna be bad news for God's people, at least at that time. People look at Daniel chapter eight and they suggest people look at Daniel chapter eight and they suggest there's no way that Daniel could have known these things. It's just impossible. And therefore, Daniel must have been written at a later date or edited at a later date in order to accommodate this information. Now, this is what you and I would see as being evidently the hand of God. This is the imprimatur of God's handiwork. He tells the end from the beginning. He knows it all. He's the one who decrees it all. And therefore, we ought to take this at face value and understand that what Daniel is saying is something that only God can do. He ordains and orchestrates all of human history to his. Final purposes and ends, and that includes some of these massive empires that have risen and fallen. And even some of the details that you see here, it's a bit obscure because it's prophetic literature, but you and I can look at this now and say, okay, it's clear what God was trying to do here. You wanna take great comfort in the fact that God is no different today than he was yesterday. This is Daniel's God. This is how he understood him. This is how God revealed himself to him. But he's not different today. God doesn't change. God still knows the end from the beginning. And all the rising kingdoms and all the falling kingdoms are under his sovereign rule and purposes take great comfort in the fact that our God remains the same. Yeah. In fact his detail on things that are gonna get even more intense as we're gonna see as the book continues to unfold. Yeah. It's awesome. It's awesome that we have this and we can look back and see how it all comes together this way. Chapter nine is an awesome chapter and one thing that I want you to notice here is the. First person, plural pronouns, and so that's Wes and us and are because chapter nine is Daniel launching into a corporate prayer of repentance on behalf of the nation of Israel. He's reading the book of Jeremiah, probably Jeremiah 25 12. He reads, man, that the prophesied time of captivity is 70 years. He understands that time is coming to an end, and he just launches into this prayer of repentance before the Lord, and he assumes. The role to pray corporately on behalf of the nation of Israel, for the wrongdoings of the people. And the majority of his prayer is just that. It's him confessing before he even gets to asking for God to do anything. He's confessing the sinfulness, he's confessing the breaking of the mosaic covenant. The mosaic law. Verse 13 he's saying that, God, what you have done is right as we see there in verse 14, he says, the Lord our God is righteous in all his works. And so the last. 69, 68 years as he's looking at, this has been good. This is right. You have not wronged us. And then finally in verse 17, he gets to their quest. He says, now, therefore, please listen. Respond in, in mercy for your own sake. Again, Daniel's saying, it's not even that we have. Earn this but Lord, please do this for your own sake. We do not present our pleas before you because of our righteousness. Verse 18, but because of your great mercy. So just casting himself on the mercy of God. But the beginning of chapter nine is Daniel saying, okay, if this has really come to an end, then we need to get ready for this. And what's fascinating and just, again, pointing to the purity and integrity of Daniel's heart. Daniel's not gonna leave and go back to Jerusalem with the people. When they are freed and allowed to go, he's gonna stay behind. And so this is not Daniel just being like, finally, it's almost time to go back home. What do we need to do to get back home? Oh, we need to pray. So let's fire off a quick prayer of repentance and see if we can get back home. Now Daniel's I he's seeing, he's understanding what God's sovereign plan is unfolding to reveal, and he wants to step into that with this corporate prayer of repentance. I think it's really cool and exciting that God sends an angel to answer his prayer request. I know you haven't gotten there yet. Yeah, no, please do. But God's gonna send Gabriel to answer this guy's prayer. And what's really interesting too is that he's dude I've been sent, I've been sent along my way. It took me some time to get here. Which I'm not sure if this is actually this chapter or the next one. Next one. Ah, okay. I'm ahead of myself. But I think it's cool that God is sending angelic hosts to dispatch to say, look, go tell Daniel what he needs to know. Here. I wanna point something out to you. ND nine END nine this is something one of my seminary pre professors taught me when we were looking at repent psalms or songs or prayers of repentance that are u unique or different from the ones that we typically go to. Psalm 51 comes to mind, END nine Ezra, Nehemiah, and Daniel. All of those in chapter nine have. Penitent Psalms that are helpful for us when we're trying to pray to God with some new language perhaps. En nine, Ezra, Nehemiah, Daniel nine, all of these have prayers of repentance that you can utilize in your own prayer type. Yeah. Hey, let's do an inadequate treatment of the 70 weeks because we just, we don't have time to, to treat it in depth. No, I think it's it's daunting a lot of times because it's oh, the 70 weeks, but I think it, it can be clear to us. And so 70 weeks it says this is the answer to. Daniel's prayer about how God is gonna restore his people. So 70 weeks are to creed, he says. And so from 4 44 bc right? And that's the time that therefore understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem. So 4 44 bc there's going to be seven weeks. And then he says in the ESV, then for 62 weeks. Now other translations will say there'll be seven weeks and 62 weeks. In other words, all other translations, every other one does. I don't know that there's any, I think e SV is alone is a loan here. Yeah. I'll double check, but I think they're alone. Yeah and it's not helpful because it's meant to say there's gonna be 69 weeks. There's going to be all but one of these weeks are gonna take place in that 69 weeks. If the weeks represent years are gonna amount to 483 years. Now what's crazy here and we don't wanna get lost too much in the weeds, but it is appropriate at time to press the details. And I think this is one of those examples. So if 4 44 BC is the time that. The, is the beginning of the 70 weeks, 69 weeks from that by the Jewish calendar, which is 360 days, would give you 483 years, which would put us right in around the timeframe of 30 to 33 ad, which is the time that Jesus, according to our history and our understanding of the timeline of events, the time that Jesus is going to be crucified. And he speaks to that, he says, after the 62 weeks and the seven weeks, ESV, the anointed one shall be cut off and have nothing. And so here's the anointed one. Here's Jesus, right? And so you've got this prophecy that, that for 69 weeks, this is what's gonna happen. And then the anointed one's gonna show up and he's gonna be cut off. That's the crucifixion. Then in the future, what about the 70th week? That is going to be the week of tribulation. That's the week that is still left. That's the seven years of tribulation. That is the time of Jacob's trouble. And that is what's still coming in the future. And that fits the context because of what Daniel's been talking about this little horn and about what he we're gonna see in chapters 10, 11, and 12 tomorrow, where he's gonna go into to even greater detail about the coming of this one. That is gonna be such a problem during this final 70th week. That's exciting. Yeah, and I think an admirable job. Of a short treatment of the 70 weeks. Awesome. Thanks man. Yeah. MacArthur Bible commentary helpful on that one. The single volume one as well as Bible Knowledge commentary. You were just reading off of that? Is that what was happening? That's totally what I was doing. Yeah. Just reading word for word. Yeah. No. Alright, y'all let me pray and then we'll be done with this episode. God, we find ourselves here. Is, we are in between the 69th week and the 70th week, and we are the, in the church age and yet we know what's coming because your word is laid it out. Just like we talked about, Daniel was right on his prophecies, on what took place in Daniel chapter eight and what we read about here, he's right about these things too, because he's not right in and of himself. He's right because you are the one that's behind his words. And so help us to live anticipating that final week. As we wait for the return of Christ to take us home, to be with you, as we trust that will take place even on the front end of that before any of this takes place. We look forward to that time to be with you finally and fully. In Jesus name, amen. Amen. Keep in your Bibles. Tune in again tomorrow for another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. I'll come back now. Bye.

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Yeah. I would agree with everything that you said