1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,720 What's up, everybody? It's Becky here with the Fielder podcast. 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,360 I have Zur, as always. And we have two very, very special guests. 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Number one, one more special than the other, let's be clear. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,440 Maybe to me, but I'm also biased in this. But we have Carlos, 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,880 who's my husband here, the North Arlington Gambuster. And then 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,900 we also have Tony, who's also very special. He was actually four 7 00:00:29,900 --> 00:00:33,020 years ago, he baptized me at the Grand Prairie Pass. Maybe I'll 8 00:00:33,020 --> 00:00:35,540 send the picture so we can blow it up on the screen for you 9 00:00:35,540 --> 00:00:35,780 guys. 10 00:00:35,780 --> 00:00:39,380 One of my favorite memories that comes up on my phone is the 11 00:00:39,380 --> 00:00:41,300 picture of your baptism. So it's so fun. 12 00:00:41,380 --> 00:00:43,620 Grand Prairie campus pastor and also director of campuses here 13 00:00:43,620 --> 00:00:46,900 at Fielder. And we have a very special topic today. Today we're 14 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:51,260 talking about physical fitness. And so I almost like. Yeah, 15 00:00:51,260 --> 00:00:54,500 literally. Yeah. I thought about naming it like, let's get physical 16 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:57,660 after that song. Like let's get physical. I thought about that 17 00:00:57,660 --> 00:01:02,440 song like gym bros, working out, meal prepping, all the works. 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,200 And so I just have a question to kind of kick us off and anybody 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,880 can jump into it. Is physical health a response to the gospel? 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,359 It's a loaded question, but I just love yalls insight. 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,640 Well, let's throw it to our guest. 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:17,440 Yeah, yeah. 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,320 Let's throw it to the fittest man here. 24 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:21,040 Let's do it. Yes. 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,280 I just want to make that clear. We're all guests on this one 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:24,600 for him. 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,450 Pastor Tony, why I just called you Pastor Tony. Pastor. 28 00:01:28,610 --> 00:01:30,210 Pastor. Thank you for the clarification. 29 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:33,850 For those that are listening to the podcast, they're not getting 30 00:01:33,850 --> 00:01:39,850 to see the YouTube version. I want you to describe pastor Carlos 31 00:01:39,850 --> 00:01:41,090 de Sierra to them. 32 00:01:41,250 --> 00:01:46,370 Carlos Deceta is the fittest man I know. If I had a prototype 33 00:01:46,770 --> 00:01:49,890 of just who I would like to physically look like, it would be 34 00:01:49,890 --> 00:01:53,760 him. Oh, yeah. He is a Brazilian style stud is what I would 35 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,120 call it. 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:54,800 Specimen. 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,680 A specimen. 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:56,720 He hates this. 39 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,560 Like when God created man. This bunny, dude. 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,000 This was the blueprint right here. 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,920 This is the blueprint. Back to the question. That's it. I like Zur's 42 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:12,320 question, though. 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:14,760 So. 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,880 So how now, now that all the light is on you, Carlos, it again, 46 00:02:19,220 --> 00:02:19,820 how is that? 47 00:02:19,820 --> 00:02:22,540 Is it a physical or is physical health a response to the 48 00:02:22,540 --> 00:02:22,980 gospel? 49 00:02:23,220 --> 00:02:28,820 Huh? Well, I really. I think that anything that has to do with 50 00:02:29,860 --> 00:02:33,260 stewarding the things that the Lord gives us, you know, stewards 51 00:02:33,260 --> 00:02:37,820 are never owners, but they are given the privilege of managing something 52 00:02:37,820 --> 00:02:42,420 that does not belong to them. So I Think anything that has to do 53 00:02:42,420 --> 00:02:46,020 with stewardship is a response to the gospel because God is ultimately 54 00:02:46,020 --> 00:02:51,450 Lord over all and he is king over everything, and we don't own 55 00:02:51,450 --> 00:02:56,010 it. Right. We have the privilege of managing and enjoying 56 00:02:56,170 --> 00:03:02,330 and really leveraging these gifts and blessings for his glory 57 00:03:02,330 --> 00:03:03,130 and for our good. 58 00:03:03,690 --> 00:03:06,970 Well, and you think about it. There's two ways that I like to think 59 00:03:06,970 --> 00:03:09,050 about it as a response to the gospel. So the answer to your question 60 00:03:09,050 --> 00:03:12,010 would be, yes, it is an obvious response to the gospel. And 61 00:03:12,010 --> 00:03:14,930 I'll tell you why. Everything that Carlos just said is so true. 62 00:03:15,010 --> 00:03:18,770 I go to First Corinthians 6, 19, 20. It says, do you not know 63 00:03:18,770 --> 00:03:22,170 that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom 64 00:03:22,170 --> 00:03:26,170 you have from God. You are not your own, for you were bought with 65 00:03:26,170 --> 00:03:31,050 a price. So glorify God in your body. You think about what it 66 00:03:31,050 --> 00:03:34,010 looks like for us to be the temple of the Holy Spirit. The Holy 67 00:03:34,010 --> 00:03:38,210 Spirit indwells us like the Holy Spirit is the one. Like, we 68 00:03:38,210 --> 00:03:40,970 become the vehicles by which people get to see the work of the 69 00:03:40,970 --> 00:03:44,600 Holy Spirit, which to me is mind boggling. And until I like started 70 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,080 seeing it like that, I couldn't really understand how to 71 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,680 put effort towards my physical fitness. Yeah. And so you think about 72 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,560 that. You think about the living sacrifice in Romans 12 and 73 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,440 how we have to offer up our bodies as a living sacrifice. We 74 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,200 can't do that if our bodies don't have the health to actually 75 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,480 support the work that wants to be done by the Holy Spirit in our 76 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,920 lives. So that's huge. 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:04,720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,240 I love that verse that you just said. 79 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,280 Yeah, I have it up too. 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:07,880 Yeah, yeah. 81 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,320 I appeal to you, therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, 82 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,400 to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable 83 00:04:13,540 --> 00:04:15,700 to God, which is your spiritual worship. 84 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:20,740 Yeah. And it just goes back to like, man, how can I offer God my 85 00:04:20,740 --> 00:04:21,060 body. 86 00:04:21,140 --> 00:04:21,660 Yeah. 87 00:04:21,660 --> 00:04:24,060 If I'm not even taking care of it? Like, that is a. Oof. That's 88 00:04:24,060 --> 00:04:24,340 a. 89 00:04:25,060 --> 00:04:25,700 It's hard. 90 00:04:25,940 --> 00:04:26,500 It's hard. 91 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:26,980 Yeah. 92 00:04:27,460 --> 00:04:30,980 Well, because a lot of times we like to distance the relationship 93 00:04:30,980 --> 00:04:35,860 between our physical habits and our relationship with the Lord. 94 00:04:35,860 --> 00:04:36,260 Yeah. 95 00:04:36,340 --> 00:04:37,980 Yet they. They are intertwined. 96 00:04:37,980 --> 00:04:38,420 Yeah. 97 00:04:39,380 --> 00:04:42,360 Even think about posture. And we talk about this a lot here at 98 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,480 Fielder, about the posture of which you take prayer and repentance 99 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,400 and all these things matter. And so making sure that your body 100 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,680 can actually take those postures matters as well. 101 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think it's very easy to compartmentalize 102 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,480 and think that, you know, again, that God is Lord over a certain 103 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,320 area of our lives. And then, you know, we don't. We don't talk 104 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,730 about that when it comes to financial generosity. We don't say, 105 00:05:07,730 --> 00:05:10,490 hey, you give your offering and your tithe, and then you can 106 00:05:10,490 --> 00:05:13,530 do whatever you want with the rest. You know, we don't say that. 107 00:05:13,530 --> 00:05:17,330 We say, God owns everything, and it's the same with our bodies. 108 00:05:17,650 --> 00:05:22,090 We don't. Can we really say that we're doing things as unto the 109 00:05:22,090 --> 00:05:26,890 Lord? You know, are we eating unto the Lord the same way that we 110 00:05:26,890 --> 00:05:31,650 want to give unto the Lord and love unto the Lord? So as Tony. As 111 00:05:31,650 --> 00:05:34,950 Tony was saying, I think it's very much intertwined, and sometimes 112 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:38,750 we make it to. We compartmentalize too much and. And 113 00:05:38,750 --> 00:05:44,030 don't realize that we. We present ourselves to. To God as. 114 00:05:44,590 --> 00:05:48,910 As a whole. As, you know, we. We present our spirits and we present 115 00:05:48,910 --> 00:05:51,470 our bodies, and we present our minds and all that we are. 116 00:05:51,630 --> 00:05:54,030 I had never thought about it the way that you just said. I didn't 117 00:05:54,030 --> 00:05:56,150 either. I'm like, dang, this is why he's on the podcast. 118 00:05:56,150 --> 00:05:56,750 Yeah, that's right. 119 00:05:56,830 --> 00:06:02,590 It's because of this. This idea of stewardship is honestly revealing 120 00:06:02,590 --> 00:06:05,030 to me as we talk about it right now. I had never thought about 121 00:06:05,030 --> 00:06:07,190 my physical health as a way for me to steward what God gave me. 122 00:06:07,190 --> 00:06:09,270 Makes total sense. Should have thought about it before. 123 00:06:09,350 --> 00:06:10,070 Yeah, absolutely. 124 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:11,950 But, man, great insight. 125 00:06:11,950 --> 00:06:15,190 I love that, man. Yeah. And I think I kind of want to go back to 126 00:06:15,190 --> 00:06:19,070 what Tony said earlier about how it's like, is my body able to 127 00:06:19,070 --> 00:06:22,670 do the things that the Lord has called me to? So, like, for example, 128 00:06:22,670 --> 00:06:27,110 I went on a mission trip two years ago to Southeast Asia. Incredible 129 00:06:27,110 --> 00:06:32,120 experience. Loved it going back. But the first year, the. The. 130 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,440 The leaders of the trip, they've been leading it for, like, 131 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,480 almost 15 years probably at this point. And they were talking 132 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,520 about it, and they were like, yeah, we're, like, really being sure 133 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,000 to get our cardio in and stuff. And I was just really surprised 134 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:42,240 by that. 135 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,359 I was like, how do you get ready for a mission trip by doing 136 00:06:44,359 --> 00:06:44,760 cardio? 137 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,760 It's like, okay. And I just kind of asked, like, so what? Why? 138 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,920 Like, what's the point? And she was like, well, like, our physically, 139 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,560 like, our bodies can't do it, like, unless we prepare ahead of 140 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,440 time. And so just like, even thinking about, if the Lord were 141 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,300 to call you to drop everything and the ends of the earth, like, 142 00:07:01,300 --> 00:07:04,540 physically, could your body complete the mission that the Lord 143 00:07:04,540 --> 00:07:09,180 has sent before you? Because he came back, I think of the parable 144 00:07:09,180 --> 00:07:12,260 about the vine dressers and just how they were responsible for 145 00:07:12,260 --> 00:07:17,940 that. And he came back and was like, hey, just checking in. If the 146 00:07:17,940 --> 00:07:20,740 Lord were to assign you something, and then he leaves and 147 00:07:20,740 --> 00:07:23,460 then comes back and is like, hey, are you ready to go? Let's go. 148 00:07:23,460 --> 00:07:27,870 And you just can't physically do it because of your responsibilities 149 00:07:27,870 --> 00:07:31,030 and choices that you've made up to this point. Like, it's just 150 00:07:31,030 --> 00:07:32,870 like that's. That's sobering to think about. 151 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:33,230 Yeah. 152 00:07:33,230 --> 00:07:36,590 Yeah. And, you know, we. We can only control what we control. 153 00:07:36,750 --> 00:07:37,230 Yeah. 154 00:07:37,230 --> 00:07:40,510 And there are so many unexpected circumstances that come 155 00:07:40,510 --> 00:07:45,910 up and maybe they may end up hindering our ability to. To respond 156 00:07:45,910 --> 00:07:47,870 to an assignment the way we would like. 157 00:07:47,870 --> 00:07:48,270 Yeah. 158 00:07:48,270 --> 00:07:52,630 But there are things that the Lord has allowed us to. To do. Right. 159 00:07:52,630 --> 00:07:54,510 We. We have a level of responsibility. 160 00:07:54,590 --> 00:07:54,990 Yeah. 161 00:07:54,990 --> 00:08:00,670 And so sometimes I. I guess we can get. Get lost in the nuance, 162 00:08:00,670 --> 00:08:02,550 but there are things that we can do. 163 00:08:02,550 --> 00:08:02,870 Yeah. 164 00:08:02,870 --> 00:08:06,030 You know, for the things that we can't control. We can't control 165 00:08:06,030 --> 00:08:10,510 being, you know, I don't know, sickness or unexpected circumstances. 166 00:08:10,510 --> 00:08:10,910 Yeah. 167 00:08:10,910 --> 00:08:13,990 But there are things in our daily lives that. That we can very 168 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:16,270 much do that could be super helpful. 169 00:08:16,510 --> 00:08:17,350 What are those things? 170 00:08:17,350 --> 00:08:20,750 I was literally, same thing. I was like, what are personal, like, 171 00:08:20,750 --> 00:08:22,990 choices that you guys have made as a response to. 172 00:08:25,530 --> 00:08:28,130 Maybe a helpful thing. Because I like to categorize things. 173 00:08:28,130 --> 00:08:28,490 Yeah. 174 00:08:28,490 --> 00:08:31,930 And I know generally with physical fitness, Right. You have 175 00:08:32,330 --> 00:08:34,490 sleep, what you eat. 176 00:08:34,490 --> 00:08:35,210 That wasn't it. 177 00:08:35,210 --> 00:08:38,490 And then fitness, you know, like those kind of three categories. 178 00:08:38,730 --> 00:08:43,170 So maybe we can just break it down by those things. Like, let's 179 00:08:43,170 --> 00:08:45,690 tackle that first one, like, sleep. What does that look like for 180 00:08:45,690 --> 00:08:46,010 you guys? 181 00:08:46,010 --> 00:08:47,290 Not even on my radar up until. 182 00:08:47,290 --> 00:08:52,290 You just said, yeah, I feel attacked. Personally attacked for 183 00:08:52,290 --> 00:08:53,370 your coming from my sleep. 184 00:08:53,690 --> 00:08:54,950 Yeah. Literally. 185 00:08:54,950 --> 00:08:55,390 Wrong. 186 00:08:55,630 --> 00:08:59,350 Well, I guess, like, I. So, you know, a couple last season, we 187 00:08:59,350 --> 00:09:02,590 talked about this. We did an episode about suffering, and I opened 188 00:09:02,590 --> 00:09:05,430 up a lot about, like, my physical health, what had just kind 189 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:08,990 of been deteriorating at that point. Update. It's going a lot better 190 00:09:08,990 --> 00:09:14,390 now. So. Yeah. You know, for medical intervention and just his. 191 00:09:14,390 --> 00:09:17,830 His kindness and that. And so feeling a lot better. But there was 192 00:09:17,830 --> 00:09:22,470 a period of time where we got. We got with a gastro doctor. I can 193 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:24,990 never pronounce it actually correctly, but gastro doctor is what 194 00:09:24,990 --> 00:09:28,130 I call her. And we like on a zoom call with her because she was 195 00:09:28,130 --> 00:09:28,370 getting. 196 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:30,730 Sorry, I'm just curious, what is that exactly? 197 00:09:32,330 --> 00:09:32,770 I don't know. 198 00:09:32,770 --> 00:09:33,570 Look it up. Look it up. 199 00:09:33,570 --> 00:09:35,010 It's a gastroenterologist. 200 00:09:35,010 --> 00:09:35,810 That's what it is. 201 00:09:35,810 --> 00:09:37,130 That's why he's on this podcast. 202 00:09:39,130 --> 00:09:42,049 She's just a gastro doctor to me. But we did a zoom call with her 203 00:09:42,049 --> 00:09:44,370 and it was like a two hour zoom call, just like giving her all 204 00:09:44,370 --> 00:09:47,130 the preliminary information before she could start. Just treatment 205 00:09:47,130 --> 00:09:49,530 plans and stuff. And one of the. I was thinking, like, she's 206 00:09:49,530 --> 00:09:51,490 going to ask about, like, what do you eat? Like, you know, how does 207 00:09:51,490 --> 00:09:54,810 your tummy feel after you eat? Like, stuff like that? But she started 208 00:09:54,970 --> 00:09:58,590 with my sleep hygiene. And she was like, so what does your sleep 209 00:09:58,590 --> 00:10:01,870 hygiene look like? And I was just like, why is that relevant? 210 00:10:01,870 --> 00:10:04,310 Like, I was so. And you can literally ask Carlos. Like, I was 211 00:10:04,310 --> 00:10:06,950 just, like, so confused. I was like, why are you asking about that? 212 00:10:07,030 --> 00:10:09,510 And she explained, like, whenever you're. Whenever you're 213 00:10:09,510 --> 00:10:12,110 sleep deprived or whenever your body's just like, over exhausted, 214 00:10:12,110 --> 00:10:14,870 like, it's, it's. It's sending the energy that you do have to, like 215 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:17,830 that the things that you have to have. And so, like, walking and 216 00:10:17,830 --> 00:10:20,670 like doing all these things. But, like, if my stomach isn't getting 217 00:10:20,670 --> 00:10:23,350 the energy that it needs because it's so sleep deprived and 218 00:10:23,350 --> 00:10:26,350 it's sending what I do have to, like, the other things, it just 219 00:10:26,350 --> 00:10:30,030 can kind of cause, like, or just kind of hurts it even more than 220 00:10:30,030 --> 00:10:32,590 it already has been. And I was just so surprised by that. Like, 221 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:34,550 I was really confused. And then another thing that she talked 222 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:37,550 about was like, how do you handle stress? And like, and, you 223 00:10:37,550 --> 00:10:40,430 know, like, it was just really interesting. And so a lot of times, 224 00:10:40,430 --> 00:10:42,670 like, sleep apart, people do tend to have more stress because 225 00:10:42,670 --> 00:10:44,950 they're also, like, so exhausted that they're just, like, 226 00:10:44,950 --> 00:10:47,790 overreacting to certain. Yeah, they're irritable. Overreacting to 227 00:10:47,790 --> 00:10:50,950 certain things. And so I think that's something I've learned recently. 228 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:53,750 Carlos is a little bit more. He's a little better at it than I 229 00:10:53,750 --> 00:10:53,870 am. 230 00:10:53,870 --> 00:10:54,360 He's seasoned. 231 00:10:54,830 --> 00:10:57,590 Yeah, he's seasoned veteran. Because, like, you know, I used to 232 00:10:57,590 --> 00:11:00,550 just be on my phone in bed, like, waiting for myself to, like, 233 00:11:00,550 --> 00:11:03,830 get tired. But she explained, like, that the light going into your 234 00:11:03,830 --> 00:11:06,470 eyes is, like convincing your brain that it's still daytime and 235 00:11:06,470 --> 00:11:08,830 so your body isn't producing the hormones that help you go to 236 00:11:08,830 --> 00:11:09,230 sleep. 237 00:11:09,310 --> 00:11:09,870 Powerful. 238 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:12,390 And so I was like, I had no idea that was a thing. And so she 239 00:11:12,390 --> 00:11:14,870 was like, no screen time an hour before bed so your body can 240 00:11:14,870 --> 00:11:15,630 start getting tired. 241 00:11:15,950 --> 00:11:17,950 No screen time an hour before. 242 00:11:18,270 --> 00:11:20,590 And that was like, part of the treatment plan. That was part of 243 00:11:20,590 --> 00:11:21,230 the treatment plan. 244 00:11:21,610 --> 00:11:23,690 You know, there is like, that's not me. 245 00:11:24,090 --> 00:11:27,050 That's what I'm saying. So it's something that I'm learning, 246 00:11:27,210 --> 00:11:29,650 like, and, like, I still, like, even last night, I was, like, 247 00:11:29,650 --> 00:11:31,770 laying in bed, like, texting or something, and Carlos just, like, 248 00:11:31,770 --> 00:11:35,530 came over. Like, he's like, phone. Like, are you done with it? 249 00:11:35,610 --> 00:11:36,570 I was like, oh, yeah. 250 00:11:36,570 --> 00:11:39,170 Okay. But maybe more practical. Just very, very out there. 251 00:11:39,170 --> 00:11:42,410 How many hours of sleep, average, do you get a night? 252 00:11:43,930 --> 00:11:49,620 Let me check. My bone says. I mean, I've never really thought about 253 00:11:49,700 --> 00:11:52,980 how it impacts my health, though I know that sleep is important. 254 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:56,340 So really, it's been more. It's interesting because what I'm 255 00:11:56,340 --> 00:11:59,380 about to share is more of a spiritual journey for me. Like, my 256 00:11:59,380 --> 00:12:02,260 sleep rhythm has been more of me knowing, okay, God, I need to 257 00:12:02,260 --> 00:12:05,220 honor you in the morning. And I know that I win the morning battle 258 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:06,340 by fighting it at night. 259 00:12:06,340 --> 00:12:06,780 That's good. 260 00:12:06,780 --> 00:12:10,700 And so if I know that I want to spend time with God in the morning 261 00:12:10,700 --> 00:12:14,850 and I want to spend time being spiritually healthy and then go and 262 00:12:14,850 --> 00:12:18,010 work out and be physically healthy, I win that battle at night. 263 00:12:18,170 --> 00:12:21,370 So for years, I've been establishing different rhythms of 264 00:12:22,330 --> 00:12:25,210 health for myself. Like, there was a season where I would put my 265 00:12:25,450 --> 00:12:28,650 phone in my closet so that I wouldn't be tempted to turn it on 266 00:12:28,809 --> 00:12:32,450 right before I go to bed. For many years, we just made sure there 267 00:12:32,450 --> 00:12:36,130 was no TV in the bedroom and that kind of thing. And so we tried 268 00:12:36,130 --> 00:12:39,530 a lot of different ways of ensuring that we were sleeping well. 269 00:12:39,690 --> 00:12:39,890 Yeah. 270 00:12:39,890 --> 00:12:43,010 But on average, I would say that I get about six and a half to 271 00:12:43,010 --> 00:12:45,530 seven hours of sleep. Don't come for me if that's not enough. 272 00:12:46,010 --> 00:12:49,650 I'm just being honest, and that's just the reality of where 273 00:12:49,650 --> 00:12:51,450 I'm at. And so let's see. 274 00:12:51,610 --> 00:12:53,810 I was gonna say, I'm not making that face because, like, bro, 275 00:12:53,810 --> 00:12:54,970 that's a lot to me. 276 00:12:56,330 --> 00:12:59,610 I've had to build up to that. Well, yeah. You seem to have two 277 00:12:59,610 --> 00:12:59,930 hours. 278 00:13:00,090 --> 00:13:04,490 No, no, I. Average maybe like five and a half, six. 279 00:13:04,810 --> 00:13:07,410 Like five and a half? Or is it five and a half, six? 280 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,520 It depends. Well, it depends on, like, how often ozzy wakes up. 281 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,880 Okay. You can't bring kids into. That's a whole lot of things. 282 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,120 But, I mean, generally. But it's also kind of like what you're 283 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,520 saying. I don't win the night because I stay up. You have late. 284 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,040 Yeah. 285 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,560 And. But here's the thing. I still win the morning because I am 286 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:30,400 very, like, if I get up, I can't go back to sleep. So if I wake 287 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,160 up at five. 288 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,360 I can't tell me you don't snooze when that alarm comes on? 289 00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:37,020 I do if I'm really, really tired. So that's. That's the problem. 290 00:13:37,020 --> 00:13:40,740 Right. Like, my body will get to a place where I'm so tired that 291 00:13:40,740 --> 00:13:44,940 I don't wake up. But generally, once my alarm goes up 292 00:13:45,020 --> 00:13:47,220 or. Yeah, something goes. I'm just. I'm. 293 00:13:47,220 --> 00:13:50,860 He's the same way. I can't do it. Like, I said 15. 15 times. 294 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:51,340 Let's go. 295 00:13:51,660 --> 00:13:53,100 I literally, like. I'm like. 296 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:58,740 I can make it. I. I overanalyze and I'm like, if I, like, 297 00:13:58,740 --> 00:14:01,430 schedule out what I have to do, I got time. I could get another 298 00:14:01,430 --> 00:14:04,670 three minutes in. As if three minutes worth of any benefit. 299 00:14:04,670 --> 00:14:08,070 I'm the same way. I'm like. I smooth, like, 15, five times, like, 300 00:14:08,070 --> 00:14:10,550 @ minimum. But. And then. Yeah, yeah. 301 00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:11,990 I'm like, sir, if I'm up, I'm up. 302 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:14,750 And it's also a process for me to wake up. Like, Carlos wakes up, 303 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:18,030 like, you know, like Mushu from Milan or he's like. That's how 304 00:14:18,030 --> 00:14:21,910 Carlos wakes up. Like, he's up, and I'm like, I need, like, 15 305 00:14:21,990 --> 00:14:23,190 minutes, like, to, like. 306 00:14:23,190 --> 00:14:28,470 Slowly, like, I sit on the edge of the bed, I breathe in, literally 307 00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:29,190 the same way. 308 00:14:29,350 --> 00:14:30,030 I like it. 309 00:14:30,030 --> 00:14:30,390 See? 310 00:14:31,110 --> 00:14:32,690 No, I can't do that. I don't know. 311 00:14:33,490 --> 00:14:34,370 Yeah, I love it. 312 00:14:34,690 --> 00:14:37,930 Yeah. So sleep hygiene, clearly something that people don't 313 00:14:37,930 --> 00:14:41,290 necessarily process as part of, like, physical fitness. What 314 00:14:41,290 --> 00:14:43,050 was the second one that you said? You said sleep hygiene. 315 00:14:43,050 --> 00:14:46,850 Yeah, like food diet. I'm badass. It's. 316 00:14:47,809 --> 00:14:48,850 I have nothing to say. 317 00:14:49,090 --> 00:14:52,050 I mean, I. Meal prep. 318 00:14:52,130 --> 00:14:52,610 Yes. 319 00:14:52,610 --> 00:14:56,050 But is my meal prep. Well, one, I gotta take it, and I actually 320 00:14:56,050 --> 00:14:58,610 gotta eat it. But the second thing is, bro, you. 321 00:14:58,610 --> 00:15:02,990 Meal prep and you don't eat it sometimes. Well, dude, if I put in 322 00:15:02,990 --> 00:15:05,710 the effort, there's no. I'm, like, eating it because especially 323 00:15:05,790 --> 00:15:06,070 at. 324 00:15:06,070 --> 00:15:08,070 The office, like, if people are like, hey, do you want to go 325 00:15:08,070 --> 00:15:10,390 get some track in the box? Like, you know, it's like, oh, like, 326 00:15:10,390 --> 00:15:12,830 yeah. I think that for tomorrow, you know, like, that kind 327 00:15:12,830 --> 00:15:15,070 of stuff. I feel like that. I feel like that comes up a lot. 328 00:15:15,150 --> 00:15:15,510 Yeah. 329 00:15:15,510 --> 00:15:15,870 Yeah. 330 00:15:16,670 --> 00:15:19,230 Tell us about meal preference. What's. Please tell us your take. 331 00:15:19,630 --> 00:15:24,790 Well, I think I. I've heard something maybe was my guy, Craig 332 00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:28,820 Rochelle, talking about pre. Deciding. Just thinking ahead, and 333 00:15:28,820 --> 00:15:32,940 I think meal prepping comes into that. It's. It's trying to plan 334 00:15:32,940 --> 00:15:36,460 out your day. Plan out your week for the interruptions because 335 00:15:36,460 --> 00:15:37,660 you know you're going to be interrupted. 336 00:15:37,660 --> 00:15:37,980 Yeah. 337 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:42,780 And so I, I know if I don't, if I don't plan out my day, something 338 00:15:42,780 --> 00:15:46,060 is going to come up. Someone is gonna, is gonna say, hey, let's 339 00:15:46,060 --> 00:15:51,340 go out to lunch. And sometimes I'll do that. But I try to, I, I, 340 00:15:51,340 --> 00:15:56,500 I try to planet. So I know what I, I think the journey for me 341 00:15:56,500 --> 00:16:01,900 has been seeing food as a fuel for my body and not something that 342 00:16:01,900 --> 00:16:06,740 I go for comfort or for a level of comfort that it was never 343 00:16:06,740 --> 00:16:07,620 intended to give. 344 00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:08,100 Sure. 345 00:16:08,260 --> 00:16:12,140 So there is, it's, it is, it is a gift, you know, like, it is 346 00:16:12,140 --> 00:16:15,820 a gift and you do get comfort from it. But what kind of level of 347 00:16:15,820 --> 00:16:19,380 comfort am I trying to get from it? Is it, is it the same level 348 00:16:19,380 --> 00:16:20,820 that the Lord intended for me to have? 349 00:16:21,410 --> 00:16:24,570 There's a few layers to this, right. Because we're talking about 350 00:16:24,570 --> 00:16:27,970 this right now as a church, talking about how food can be a way 351 00:16:28,370 --> 00:16:31,170 for you to communicate the gospel and for you to meet people 352 00:16:31,170 --> 00:16:33,970 that don't know Jesus. And so you have to balance that. Right. 353 00:16:33,970 --> 00:16:36,130 Because you can easily set, you can easily justify, well, I'm 354 00:16:36,130 --> 00:16:38,170 going to eat this, I'm going to go eat pizza because my neighbor 355 00:16:38,170 --> 00:16:40,850 likes pizza. And not that pizza is bad, but if all you eat 356 00:16:40,850 --> 00:16:42,130 is pizza and there's an issue. Right? 357 00:16:42,130 --> 00:16:42,410 Yeah. 358 00:16:42,410 --> 00:16:48,100 Yeah. And so for me, all of my physical fitness journey, talking 359 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:51,740 about, I talked about it during sleep, but even during meals 360 00:16:51,740 --> 00:16:55,260 and dieting and all that, it's a spiritual, it's been a spiritual 361 00:16:55,260 --> 00:16:59,300 journey. Like, for me personally, there was a time in my 362 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:04,820 life where it was early in our marriage, I really had no thought 363 00:17:04,820 --> 00:17:07,380 about physical health, didn't think about food as fuel, only thought 364 00:17:07,380 --> 00:17:11,540 about food as pleasure. And it was evident I had ballooned up to 365 00:17:11,540 --> 00:17:15,860 an unhealthy weight. And my doctor said if you don't lose some 366 00:17:15,860 --> 00:17:19,260 weight, if you don't get physically fit, or at least if you 367 00:17:19,260 --> 00:17:21,940 don't get healthy, you're going to be diabetic by the age of 368 00:17:21,940 --> 00:17:26,140 30. And I started thinking about, man, we don't have kids yet. 369 00:17:26,140 --> 00:17:28,220 We're just the beginning of our marriage, all these kind of things. 370 00:17:28,860 --> 00:17:34,300 So there began a journey for me of trying to have the right perspective 371 00:17:34,300 --> 00:17:37,940 on health, which I think can be very dangerous for you to have 372 00:17:37,940 --> 00:17:40,630 the wrong perspective. I hope, I know we might jump into that, might 373 00:17:40,630 --> 00:17:45,550 be jumping ahead here, but when it comes to meal prepping and 374 00:17:45,550 --> 00:17:49,070 your schedule and being busy and all that, it's intimately tied 375 00:17:49,070 --> 00:17:51,830 with your relationship with the spirit. Because for anything 376 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:54,950 that you can, plan ahead, and I agree with you, make those decisions. 377 00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:58,950 Plan ahead. Be sure to know what you're going to eat and have 378 00:17:58,950 --> 00:18:01,710 an idea of how to do that. Don't respond to hunger, but plan 379 00:18:01,710 --> 00:18:02,710 for hunger, because that's how. 380 00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:03,230 That's good. 381 00:18:03,230 --> 00:18:06,110 Yeah. Well, that's how you know that it's no longer pleasure, 382 00:18:06,110 --> 00:18:10,890 but now it's fuel. But when you do that, the spirit might come 383 00:18:10,890 --> 00:18:13,250 back and tell you, hey, this person who just asked you to lunch, 384 00:18:14,050 --> 00:18:17,370 they actually really need to talk to you. And unless you're in 385 00:18:17,370 --> 00:18:19,610 tune with the spirit, unless you're following what the spirit 386 00:18:19,610 --> 00:18:23,290 is telling you, you won't know what the priority is. Is a priority 387 00:18:23,290 --> 00:18:25,850 for me to say, no, I meal prepped. I'm not going to go out 388 00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:29,610 and just hang out. I'm going to eat what I plan to eat. Or it 389 00:18:29,610 --> 00:18:32,410 might be a spiritual moment where you're saying, okay, I need 390 00:18:32,410 --> 00:18:37,060 to sacrifice this plan that I made and go out and eat and still 391 00:18:37,060 --> 00:18:37,260 make. 392 00:18:37,260 --> 00:18:39,140 A good choice while you're out there, for sure. 393 00:18:39,540 --> 00:18:44,580 And so it's all intertwined, man. That's been so important for 394 00:18:44,580 --> 00:18:48,100 me is to understand how my spiritual journey is intertwined 395 00:18:48,100 --> 00:18:51,620 with my health and in the eating choices, y' all. I don't know. 396 00:18:52,020 --> 00:18:56,260 We're in the middle of Lent, and I didn't, you know, gave up sweets 397 00:18:56,260 --> 00:19:00,340 for Lent. And there was a big, beautiful plate of my favorite type 398 00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:02,460 of cookie, which is chocolate chip cookies. As soon as I walk in 399 00:19:02,460 --> 00:19:02,580 the. 400 00:19:02,580 --> 00:19:05,940 Office, it was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 401 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,880 Not great, because my first instinct is like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna 402 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,120 grab one of those. Because it's pleasure first. Right. That's 403 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:14,160 what our bodies naturally tend to. But because we're doing this 404 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,200 intentional, like, time of drawing close to the Lord. 405 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:16,640 Yeah. 406 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,720 I felt like the spirit reminded me. It's like, nope, it's 407 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,640 not just. Yeah, it's. But it's not just. No. It's like, you want 408 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,720 that turn your desire towards me. And in that moment, I was able 409 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,600 to be like, that does not fuel me. I am fueled. Trust me. I make 410 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,230 sure that I leave the house fueled, ready to go. I. I did. I 411 00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:36,430 didn't. 412 00:19:36,430 --> 00:19:37,670 I don't skip no breakfast. 413 00:19:38,390 --> 00:19:38,790 No. 414 00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:40,470 You got you a fair life. 415 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:41,030 Yes. 416 00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:44,430 And so it. It was a spiritual moment. 417 00:19:44,430 --> 00:19:44,670 Yeah. 418 00:19:44,670 --> 00:19:45,030 Yeah. 419 00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:47,630 And I think that people way too often. We talked about this earlier. 420 00:19:47,630 --> 00:19:48,590 Just compartmentalize. 421 00:19:48,590 --> 00:19:48,870 Yeah. 422 00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:49,590 I mean, it's not healthy. 423 00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:53,270 Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I also think it's like, it's more I think 424 00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:56,470 meal prepping, to me, is. Just requires so much more effort. 425 00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:57,070 100%. 426 00:19:57,070 --> 00:19:59,950 It's like. It's more intentional because it's like, I'm 427 00:19:59,950 --> 00:20:03,840 planning for my days at work. I'm playing, if you're a snacker, 428 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,400 plan for your snacks, man. I'm a snacker all the time, and so, like, 429 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,080 I bring my own snacks. And so it's like, I. Because there's always 430 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,000 going to be stuff around you, and most of the time, it's not going 431 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,880 to be things that are necessarily healthy. And so, like, 432 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,079 I plan for my snacks, I plan for my lunch, but I. I don't always 433 00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:19,320 plan for my dinner. And I feel like that's something that we've 434 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,600 been working on as a family. Just like, you know, you have this 435 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,600 for lunch, you have this for your snack. Okay, what are you gonna 436 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,250 do for dinner? Are you just gonna get home and, like, just eat 437 00:20:27,250 --> 00:20:29,930 whatever's available or in front of you, or are you gonna have 438 00:20:29,930 --> 00:20:33,450 the munchies, like, on the way from home or from work to home and 439 00:20:33,450 --> 00:20:35,410 then pick something up, you know, Like. And so I think you have 440 00:20:35,410 --> 00:20:38,770 to, like, really understand yourself and your psychology. You 441 00:20:38,770 --> 00:20:41,690 know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, if you have certain tendencies, 442 00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:44,970 you don't necessarily have to, like, shame yourself or guilt yourself 443 00:20:44,970 --> 00:20:48,010 into, like, removing those. Just plan for them. Like, like, plan 444 00:20:48,010 --> 00:20:50,890 for them in a way that you can. You know, you can, if you're 445 00:20:50,890 --> 00:20:53,130 a snacker, snack in a way that's sanctifying, you know, like. 446 00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:55,770 Like have those things available at your desk or whatever. 447 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,440 I bring, like, 75 cuties to the office every day, and I bring 448 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,040 carrots and grapes. Like, whatever. Like, I. If I. Yeah, I 449 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,280 plan for those things. And I feel like that's really helped me 450 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:08,120 because with my physical health stuff, like, I think I was 451 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:10,840 able to realize that a lot of it was things that were out of my 452 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,240 control, but there were certain things that I was doing that 453 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,200 weren't helping. And so it was, like, making an already difficult 454 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,880 situation so much worse because I was just, like, eating 455 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,360 the things that I wanted, using 5, 7 chick fil a sauces per 456 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:26,120 meal. You know, like, just the things that are unnecessary. Yeah. 457 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,200 And I just didn't necessarily plan for them. And I. I didn't realize 458 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:34,160 the effect that it had until I stopped doing those decisions. And 459 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,320 then I was able to realize, like, oh, my gosh, I feel so much 460 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,560 better. Oh, my gosh, I'm not cramping all the time. Oh, my gosh. 461 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,120 Like, you know, like, all these Things were able to. I was 462 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:42,880 able to be enlightened because of that. 463 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,240 And, like, the emotions that are tied to all of those. 464 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,480 Oh, 100%. Yeah. 100. I agree. Yeah. 465 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,800 I deserve this. Or why. Why is this bad? 466 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,720 I had a bad day. 467 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,080 I. 468 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,200 Like. Like, I need it. Yes, yes, 100. And not that those things 469 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,500 are inherently bad, but, like, don, your. Your decisions for your 470 00:21:59,500 --> 00:22:02,180 physical health, be a response to your emotions, because your emotions 471 00:22:02,180 --> 00:22:04,260 are always going to be all over the place, like, depending on 472 00:22:04,260 --> 00:22:05,020 how your week is. 473 00:22:05,020 --> 00:22:05,380 Yeah. 474 00:22:05,380 --> 00:22:08,380 But, you know, it's okay to, like, you know, once a week on my 475 00:22:08,380 --> 00:22:10,300 Sabbath, I'm going to treat myself. I'm going to have something 476 00:22:10,300 --> 00:22:12,980 really delicious. Okay, then do that. Plan for that. But let your. 477 00:22:12,980 --> 00:22:15,580 The rest of your week reflect that decision that you've already 478 00:22:15,580 --> 00:22:16,340 made, you know? 479 00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:21,060 Yeah. Because I think what matters is what we do consistently, 480 00:22:21,060 --> 00:22:24,900 not what we do sporadically. Yeah. And so when we. When we do 481 00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:28,730 something consistently, we make room for the. For the spontaneity 482 00:22:28,730 --> 00:22:32,650 and for the interruptions and for. For the spirit to say, hey, 483 00:22:32,650 --> 00:22:35,890 I'm asking you to lay this down right now and, you know, just 484 00:22:35,890 --> 00:22:38,410 scratch your plans for. For the sake of something that I have 485 00:22:38,410 --> 00:22:43,450 for you. But if. If the rhythms will help us discern and 486 00:22:43,450 --> 00:22:47,570 they will help us. I feel like a lot of times what we're hearing 487 00:22:47,650 --> 00:22:52,650 is, hey, it's okay to indulge. You know, it's okay to be true to 488 00:22:52,650 --> 00:22:55,850 yourself, whether it's in your relationships or when it comes to 489 00:22:55,850 --> 00:23:00,880 food, whatever it is, just follow your feelings. And as followers 490 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,280 of Jesus, we're called to live in a. In a countercultural way. 491 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,680 Yeah. 492 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,360 I think that's where the challenge is. 493 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,400 Yeah. 494 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,480 I have a question specifically for Zur. 495 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,000 Okay. 496 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,880 Yeah. Well, you know, it's just. I know that there are people 497 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,080 out there. We're talking about planning and we're talking about 498 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,880 the importance of planning, and I agree with you guys a thousand 499 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,960 percent. Plan the snacks, plan hope forward, even. What you were 500 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,410 talking about, this culture of indulgence, and I should allow myself 501 00:23:27,410 --> 00:23:30,690 to do that rather than, like, discipline. I think that the counterpart 502 00:23:30,690 --> 00:23:32,010 to indulgence is discipline. 503 00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:32,370 Yeah. 504 00:23:32,370 --> 00:23:34,770 And discipline has been a huge journey that I've been on recently. 505 00:23:34,770 --> 00:23:38,010 Like, God's been wanting me to do that. But I just want to speak 506 00:23:38,010 --> 00:23:41,810 this before I forget. How do you plan with kids? 507 00:23:42,130 --> 00:23:43,170 That's a really good question. 508 00:23:43,170 --> 00:23:45,690 And how do you plan healthy meals with kids? I feel like you 509 00:23:45,690 --> 00:23:49,330 guys do probably a better job than what I feel like I do. My wife 510 00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:52,690 does 1000% better job. Well, both our wives do much better jobs 511 00:23:52,690 --> 00:23:55,200 than you and I do. That's probably the better way to say it. 512 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,160 And then I've. I'm undisciplined by not eating the food 513 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,280 she's eating. No, I. I love you fair. 514 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:02,880 Love you fair. 515 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,160 Now, that's a really good question. I. So, okay, I grew up 516 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:12,160 in a home where everything was like, you eat what's given to you, 517 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,960 and if you don't eat it, it's leftovers, and you eat the leftovers. 518 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,680 And, like, that's something that, man, honestly, I struggled 519 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,370 with when it came to food. Food and my relationship with food. 520 00:24:23,690 --> 00:24:27,170 And specifically, like, my thought was like, oh, I'm the dad. 521 00:24:27,170 --> 00:24:31,530 I'm the. The kind of like, the dumpster for all of the kids foods. 522 00:24:31,530 --> 00:24:35,010 Like, we don't waste it. We got to be respectful. Like, there's 523 00:24:35,010 --> 00:24:35,410 hungry. 524 00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:37,810 None of this. You got to be sorry. Well, you just want to eat 525 00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:39,570 their food because you don't want it to go to waste. 526 00:24:39,570 --> 00:24:42,610 I mean, but there's both. You know, it's like, I want it, but at 527 00:24:42,610 --> 00:24:44,970 the same time, it's almost like that guilt. Like, I hear that 528 00:24:44,970 --> 00:24:48,040 thing from my dad. Like, man, there's hungry kids in the Philippines. 529 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,760 You got to eat. So there's, like, guilt, there's shame. There's, 530 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,080 like, almost all those things. But when it comes to planning, that's 531 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:59,200 where it was. Like, man, I had to really lean into Farah and talk 532 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,400 about, like, okay, here's our plan for the week. Here's the meals 533 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,440 that we're going to get when we go to Costco and we make our meal 534 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,280 prep and all these things. But then also, what I had to learn was 535 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:16,650 grace. Like, yeah. Grace for myself in that sometimes the kids 536 00:25:16,650 --> 00:25:20,210 aren't going to eat their meal, and it might mean, hey, I don't 537 00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:23,410 eat what we had planned. I'm just going to eat. 538 00:25:23,490 --> 00:25:23,810 Not. 539 00:25:23,810 --> 00:25:25,890 Not just to be resourceful. 540 00:25:25,970 --> 00:25:27,170 Yeah, yeah. 541 00:25:27,170 --> 00:25:28,050 Also with our money. 542 00:25:28,130 --> 00:25:28,770 Stewardship. 543 00:25:28,930 --> 00:25:31,730 Stewardship. And so it's like, okay, I'm just going to eat what 544 00:25:31,730 --> 00:25:37,010 the kids didn't eat to be wise for even the future. It's just. It's 545 00:25:37,010 --> 00:25:39,730 very nuanced. I think, like, that's kind of my answer would be. 546 00:25:40,140 --> 00:25:45,620 But it is like planning. Well, with my spouse on here's our intention. 547 00:25:45,620 --> 00:25:50,620 And if things go off the rail, then let's regroup again and plan. 548 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:52,740 But then, practically speaking, what you're saying is that 549 00:25:52,740 --> 00:25:54,020 you guys plan out your meals. 550 00:25:54,020 --> 00:25:54,460 We do. 551 00:25:54,460 --> 00:25:55,420 Together as a family. 552 00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:58,540 Together. Yeah. Elizabeth and I had to Go through that as well. 553 00:25:58,700 --> 00:26:01,580 It was becoming a lot of stress to, like, what are we cooking 554 00:26:01,580 --> 00:26:04,780 tonight? And to be honest, Elizabeth, you're amazing because 555 00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:09,090 you cook 99.9% of all the food that's made in our household. Thank 556 00:26:09,090 --> 00:26:13,650 you. I need that. Praise Jesus. Yes. But I just noticed that 557 00:26:13,730 --> 00:26:15,970 that was causing a lot of stress for her. So where can I step 558 00:26:15,970 --> 00:26:19,370 in and support. And for us, it was a little bit different. It wasn't 559 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:21,890 just planning out different meals for the week, but it had to 560 00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:24,770 do with, like, what's our bank of meals that you feel comfortable 561 00:26:24,770 --> 00:26:27,290 eating, that you feel comfortable cooking, that the kids 562 00:26:27,290 --> 00:26:30,610 eat. Well, that's healthy. And so we came up with like, maybe around 563 00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:35,380 seven to 10 general meals. That push comes to shove, there's 564 00:26:35,380 --> 00:26:37,980 no decision energy because there's a lot of decision fatigue 565 00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:40,900 in planning meals. And I think that with meal planning, that's the 566 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:44,860 difficult part. So we found what is our general list. And there's 567 00:26:44,860 --> 00:26:48,540 about five to seven of them that we have. And those are just 568 00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:53,460 regular rhythms of our household. And now we know that it's 569 00:26:53,460 --> 00:26:55,420 going to be one of these, and then maybe there'll be some special 570 00:26:55,420 --> 00:26:58,770 stuff that we put out there for Sunday, Sabbath or stuff like 571 00:26:58,770 --> 00:27:03,290 that, or a special occasion. But generally we had to find what 572 00:27:03,290 --> 00:27:05,530 worked for us. And that's really what I wanted to kind of like, 573 00:27:05,530 --> 00:27:08,610 I love that. Bring to the table. Was we in the journey of meal 574 00:27:08,610 --> 00:27:11,090 prepping or meal planning or anything like that? There's so many 575 00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:13,810 nuances to it, which you said, find what works for you. 576 00:27:13,810 --> 00:27:14,730 Yeah, yeah, I love that. 577 00:27:14,730 --> 00:27:17,330 I agree. And I think there's some people, like, I think we talk 578 00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:20,770 about meal meal prepping. Not only is it like, you know, you have 579 00:27:20,770 --> 00:27:23,410 control over what's in your food, like, you know, what kind of 580 00:27:23,410 --> 00:27:26,650 seasonings and like, you know, there's no MSG in my. My eggs, you 581 00:27:26,650 --> 00:27:29,900 know, like, that kind of stuff. Like. But it's also financially, 582 00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:32,540 you know, depending on your situation, like, it could be financially 583 00:27:32,540 --> 00:27:35,420 the best decision for your family, you know, like, because eating 584 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:39,300 out, you know, it's like 45 for a family of three to go out to 585 00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:42,140 eat, you know, and so, like, that kind of stuff. But if you are, 586 00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:45,260 you know, a single person that you do have the resources to eat 587 00:27:45,260 --> 00:27:47,660 out every day, that doesn't necessarily mean you can't do that. 588 00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:51,100 Just make wise decisions while you're out, you know, like, if, if, 589 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:54,920 like, if you don't necessarily have to meal prep, you don't have 590 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,520 to. Like, that's not what we're saying. We're not saying meal 591 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,560 prepping is more godly than eating out, but just, like, just 592 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,240 take those decisions. Like, take. Like, regardless of what. How 593 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,320 my day looks today, I'm going to choose to treat my body as a temple 594 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,800 of the Lord. You know what I'm saying? Like, regardless of what. 595 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,680 How. How your emotions feel. Because I treat food, like, kind 596 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,240 of like you said, I don't. I never saw it as fuel. And, like, 597 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,840 even to this day, like, I still kind of, like, lean more on, 598 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,560 like, a. But it's delicious. Like, how am I gonna eat something 599 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,490 that's not delicious? You know? And then there's been times 600 00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:26,010 where, like, I get so frustrated that the food that, like, 601 00:28:26,010 --> 00:28:29,130 I have access to isn't what I want, that I'll just go to sleep. 602 00:28:29,130 --> 00:28:30,970 Like, I'm like, you know what? Forget this. I'm not gonna eat dinner. 603 00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:34,930 Like, I got so. Yeah, right. Like, Carlos's face, like, dead serious. 604 00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:37,450 Like, I just. I can't, like, because I'm just like, what do you 605 00:28:37,450 --> 00:28:39,330 mean? I had to eat something that I don't like. You know, I just, 606 00:28:39,330 --> 00:28:42,330 like, have a childish stomach like that. And so it's been something 607 00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:45,730 that I've worked on and had to really use. Like, allow the Lord 608 00:28:45,730 --> 00:28:48,970 to, like, speak into me, and then also, like, allow us as a family 609 00:28:48,970 --> 00:28:52,420 to kind of make these decisions together. So, yeah, like, 610 00:28:52,420 --> 00:28:55,580 if you don't have to meal prep, that's not a bad thing. Just, 611 00:28:55,580 --> 00:28:57,340 like, make those decisions wisely. 612 00:28:57,340 --> 00:28:58,140 Make wise decisions. 613 00:28:58,140 --> 00:28:58,540 Yeah. 614 00:28:58,540 --> 00:29:01,100 And I love that you're just talking about. It is a journey. 615 00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:01,660 Yeah, right. 616 00:29:01,660 --> 00:29:04,420 Everybody's on a journey. Or a journey with sleep getting better 617 00:29:04,420 --> 00:29:07,420 sleep. There's a journey getting better with eating habits. 618 00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:10,420 And then the last one that we were going to talk about was, like, 619 00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:15,580 physical fitness, exercise. What are you guys. Practices rhythms 620 00:29:15,580 --> 00:29:16,050 for that. 621 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,760 I'm gonna lean to Carlos for this one. I have some. Don't get 622 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,520 me wrong. But, you know, I'll just let the specimen talk. 623 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,320 That's right. The blueprint. 624 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,440 The blueprint. No, that's a better one. 625 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,480 Honestly, I think for me, it started when I was probably still 626 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,960 in high school, just going with friends, going to the gym, because 627 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,800 it was. It was what we did, right? And we knew it was good. It 628 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,680 was. It was healthy. It was also a way to just decompress. But 629 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,530 I think as time went by, you know, you're. You're just influenced 630 00:29:45,530 --> 00:29:49,410 by so much, and I. I definitely lean more towards the. 631 00:29:49,650 --> 00:29:54,330 The idolatrous part of it. And so I was at the gym seven days a 632 00:29:54,330 --> 00:29:58,810 week, because it never felt. It never felt like a bad thing, you 633 00:29:58,810 --> 00:30:03,130 know, And. And I. I used to find myself frustrated whenever something 634 00:30:03,130 --> 00:30:06,170 would come up, you know, or we would have someone over and then 635 00:30:06,170 --> 00:30:10,130 I couldn't go. And even I feel like early into our marriage when 636 00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:13,970 whenever something would come up and. And my plans would get disrupted 637 00:30:13,970 --> 00:30:19,090 and I would. And the Lord started just, like, allowing those 638 00:30:19,090 --> 00:30:22,130 things to come to light and say, hey, you're trading something 639 00:30:22,610 --> 00:30:26,410 really good into something completely idolatrous and so. 640 00:30:26,410 --> 00:30:27,250 So dangerous, too. 641 00:30:27,330 --> 00:30:31,730 Yeah. And so I think one of the first. One of the first steps 642 00:30:31,730 --> 00:30:35,330 that the Lord helped me take was saying, hey, on your Sabbath, 643 00:30:35,810 --> 00:30:36,930 don't exercise. 644 00:30:37,090 --> 00:30:37,650 Wow. 645 00:30:37,730 --> 00:30:39,170 And for me, I. I just kept. 646 00:30:39,170 --> 00:30:42,210 I'm looking forward for that, and that's a sacrifice for him. Oh, 647 00:30:42,210 --> 00:30:42,930 my goodness. 648 00:30:42,930 --> 00:30:47,380 Whoa. No, I was. In my mind, I was. I was justifying and rationalizing 649 00:30:47,380 --> 00:30:50,900 and saying. It just. It doesn't feel like work to me. It's 650 00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:52,380 not heavy. It's delight for me. 651 00:30:52,380 --> 00:30:53,780 You can't relate, you know? Yeah, can't really. 652 00:30:53,780 --> 00:30:55,340 It's terrible for me every time because. 653 00:30:55,340 --> 00:30:56,300 I want to go with work. 654 00:30:56,300 --> 00:31:00,020 It's. It's my alone time. I have my podcasts on, and it's just. 655 00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:04,380 I'm in a zone, and it's great. And honestly, sometimes I just go 656 00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:07,420 for the consistency. I'm there for 25 minutes or 30 minutes, and 657 00:31:07,420 --> 00:31:10,400 then I leave. So it's not like I'm there for two hours. And I just 658 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,640 kept, like, going back to the Lord with it. And now I've reduced 659 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,240 how many times a week ago to the gym. Now the Lord has brought 660 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,600 me to a point where I'm more okay if something comes up, and I'm 661 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,960 more aware of my idolatrous tendencies. And so now I'm like, 662 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,120 lord, please correct me and expose my sin, because I don't want 663 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,560 to turn something that is a gift and a privilege from you into 664 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,860 something that is detrimental to my spiritual walk. 665 00:31:39,860 --> 00:31:46,380 That's good. This is so much. This is crazy, because for me, my 666 00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:49,340 physical side of, like, exercise is the complete opposite 667 00:31:49,340 --> 00:31:53,259 of you. Like, it wasn't about idolatrous, or I found I was. It 668 00:31:53,259 --> 00:31:53,860 was laziness. 669 00:31:53,860 --> 00:31:54,220 Yeah. 670 00:31:54,220 --> 00:31:56,820 I just didn't want to do it. It was too much discipline, literally. 671 00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:00,580 I'm like, I don't want to go. I'm relaxed. I don't. 672 00:32:01,620 --> 00:32:06,430 Well. And it seemed unattainable as a teenager. I was 673 00:32:06,430 --> 00:32:10,550 just overweight, and I didn't feel like I didn't want to even start 674 00:32:10,550 --> 00:32:12,630 because I felt like I was an imposer. You were defeated before. 675 00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:16,230 I was defeated before I even went there. I didn't have those friends 676 00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:18,750 that went to the gym and found it exciting. For me, it was a complete 677 00:32:18,750 --> 00:32:22,790 opposite. Only the. It sounds silly, but, like, the popular ones, 678 00:32:22,790 --> 00:32:24,950 the jocks, all them, like, they're the ones who make it out 679 00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:30,270 there, not me. I'm the geek, I'm the nerd. I'm the goody two shoes. 680 00:32:30,660 --> 00:32:33,140 So I'm not. That's not my scene. So I'm not going to get there. 681 00:32:33,380 --> 00:32:36,260 And God, going back to that moment where that doctor confronted 682 00:32:36,260 --> 00:32:38,260 me and said, this is what's going to happen if you don't get 683 00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:42,780 it right, I had to change my perspective. And to me, it was leaving 684 00:32:42,780 --> 00:32:47,340 away laziness and picking up discipline. Yeah, discipline as an 685 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:51,700 act of worship and as a way for me to be obedient to the spirit 686 00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:55,660 in my life. And when I started seeing it that way, that's what completely 687 00:32:55,660 --> 00:32:59,080 changed. And so I don't think you actually gave it. What's your 688 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,600 physical routine? Because you talked to us about, like, kind of 689 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,800 your spiritual journey. But just real quick, what's. What's a 690 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,400 normal week for you when it comes to your physical workout routine? 691 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,120 Yeah. So it's usually five days a week. I don't do Wednesdays, 692 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,520 and I don't do Sundays Wednesdays because they're typically 693 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,240 fasting. It's a longer day, too. And if I do Wednesdays, then 694 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,060 I sacrifice my time with the Lord. And so I try to do it in a 695 00:33:27,060 --> 00:33:31,740 way that allows me to still protect my time with the Lord in 696 00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:37,340 the mornings. But I usually go for 30, 45 minutes, maybe cardio 697 00:33:37,340 --> 00:33:41,780 once a week. I like being outside and moving. And so even if 698 00:33:41,780 --> 00:33:44,780 I don't go to the gym, I like going on a walk or. Yeah. 699 00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:49,740 The name of the game for me has been find what works. Right? 700 00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:52,830 And so find how you can actually establish that discipline. 701 00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:57,070 Because I was really rigid back in the day, and being rigid 702 00:33:57,070 --> 00:34:01,110 did not help me, but I equated discipline with being rigid. And 703 00:34:01,110 --> 00:34:03,870 that's not it. Discipline is just consistency. Right. And being 704 00:34:03,870 --> 00:34:05,670 intentional with everything that you're doing, which is even 705 00:34:05,670 --> 00:34:07,950 something that I've learned with you, Carlos, as I've gotten 706 00:34:07,950 --> 00:34:10,710 a chance to grow in relationship with you, is just that 707 00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:13,750 consistency, that intentionality. So currently, for 708 00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:16,230 me, there was a season where I was doing a lot of running outside. 709 00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:19,630 Zerg, you got me into that. You got the whole. 710 00:34:19,630 --> 00:34:20,710 That was the closest guy. 711 00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:25,090 That was beautiful. And, you know, my Knees. Thank you for it. 712 00:34:25,170 --> 00:34:26,370 And so it was. 713 00:34:27,170 --> 00:34:28,450 Thank you for it. 714 00:34:29,010 --> 00:34:32,570 And we have a friend whose name shall not be mentioned, who 715 00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:35,890 is very disciplined and loves to run and loves to galvanize people 716 00:34:35,890 --> 00:34:39,330 to do things with him and who should. Who would we be talking about? 717 00:34:39,330 --> 00:34:40,690 Who could he be talking about? 718 00:34:40,850 --> 00:34:44,090 So he got us on a like, hey, let's do a race. And every year is 719 00:34:44,090 --> 00:34:46,450 a little bit more. And that, that helped me, having the community, 720 00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:49,290 having the people around me who are, like, doing something with 721 00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:54,810 me. So I'm thankful for this friend of ours that honestly galvanized 722 00:34:54,810 --> 00:34:58,170 us towards something good and towards many other things that he 723 00:34:58,170 --> 00:34:58,810 led us towards. 724 00:34:58,810 --> 00:34:59,290 I agree. 725 00:34:59,290 --> 00:35:02,530 And so I was grateful for that. But I was working for some 726 00:35:02,530 --> 00:35:05,570 time, and there was some time where I legitimately started getting 727 00:35:05,570 --> 00:35:08,210 hurt because I'm just getting older in life and it's the reality. 728 00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:10,890 And I wasn't very physically fit back in the day. So trying to 729 00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:13,850 be physically fit now, my body's kind of reacting to that. 730 00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:17,610 So I try to keep it simple. I found that a group fitness class 731 00:35:17,610 --> 00:35:20,370 works for me. So I do a group fitness class early in the morning. 732 00:35:20,530 --> 00:35:23,290 I wake up early enough to have my quiet time. Then I go to the fitness 733 00:35:23,290 --> 00:35:25,770 class and then I come home and it's time with family. And then I 734 00:35:25,770 --> 00:35:28,650 come to the office. I do that three times a week. And then I find 735 00:35:28,650 --> 00:35:32,210 two other times where I can do some light cardio. So I have found 736 00:35:32,210 --> 00:35:36,450 that I love and enjoy pickleball. Let's go. So love it. 737 00:35:36,530 --> 00:35:40,410 Great sport to jump into. So I try to do that one to two times a 738 00:35:40,410 --> 00:35:44,980 week as my, like, cardio, mid level to light cardio. And it's super 739 00:35:44,980 --> 00:35:48,060 fun. It brings people together. It's about community. But 740 00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:50,380 to me, what was important where you said, man, it's my alone 741 00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:53,500 time, it's my time to decompress. When I find it's the 742 00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:55,980 opposite for me, when I find community, I'm more disciplined. 743 00:35:55,980 --> 00:35:58,460 Like, I think of the people that are there that I want to go 744 00:35:58,460 --> 00:36:01,100 see. People that don't know Jesus that I'm, like, praying for, 745 00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:04,220 or people that are brothers and sisters in Christ that I get 746 00:36:04,220 --> 00:36:07,420 to enjoy and grow in deeper relationship with. Because I'm beating 747 00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:08,300 them at pickleball. 748 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:08,660 Yeah. 749 00:36:08,660 --> 00:36:12,920 Hey, so those are the kind of things that have helped me is finding 750 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,360 what works, finding what drives you, finding what helps you 751 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,480 be consistent has been really important. I think that's very unique 752 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,240 to every individual. 753 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,640 I agree. Not every journey is the same. And I think the things 754 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,040 that work for some I think we, we Sometimes you get so over and 755 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,080 I speak from for myself. Like sometimes I would get so overwhelmed 756 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,960 by other people's. Like, I'm doing this and it helps me. I'm doing 757 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,280 this and this and you just get so overwhelmed that you're like, 758 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,980 I'm, I like you accept defeat before you even take a step because 759 00:36:38,980 --> 00:36:41,620 you're like, I can't do, I can't run. I hate running. I can't, 760 00:36:41,620 --> 00:36:44,540 I can't play pickleball. I don't, my hand eye coordination is 761 00:36:44,540 --> 00:36:47,420 terrible. Like, I can't do that. Like, and that's actually legitimately 762 00:36:47,980 --> 00:36:51,380 we should go play together as a ball's right here. And I'm like 763 00:36:51,380 --> 00:36:51,940 over here. 764 00:36:51,940 --> 00:36:54,500 Like, we'll have a follow up podcast to talk about her pickleball 765 00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:56,620 journey. No, no. 766 00:36:56,780 --> 00:37:00,700 But yeah, it's so just like, just don't, don't I just speak for. 767 00:37:00,860 --> 00:37:03,460 I'm speaking to myself but also like everybody else. Like you 768 00:37:03,460 --> 00:37:05,460 don't. Your journey doesn't have to be the same as everybody 769 00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:08,030 else's. Like, find what works for you. Like, I love that, that 770 00:37:08,030 --> 00:37:10,550 that's like the premise. Like find what works for you. And even 771 00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:13,310 if you're going to the gym, like if your victory is. I went to 772 00:37:13,310 --> 00:37:16,470 the gym once this week, praise God, like celebrate that, you know, 773 00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:19,310 like, it's not going to be, I think people have the bad habit of 774 00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:23,749 like, okay, I'm going to like new December 31st rolls around and 775 00:37:23,749 --> 00:37:26,150 they're like, I'm not going to have fast food at all next year. 776 00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:28,350 Like, I'm never going to eat it at all. I'm going to cut off soda. 777 00:37:28,350 --> 00:37:30,990 I'm never going to drink soda. I'm going to get my this, you know, 778 00:37:30,990 --> 00:37:34,470 $150 gym membership and I'm going to go every day. Like, and 779 00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:37,110 they make all these like grandiose plans and I'm like, just 780 00:37:37,110 --> 00:37:40,140 be practical. Like when you're starting out in your journey, like, 781 00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:43,220 be practical. Like make those small decisions that are going to 782 00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:46,140 have that you like that's you're building the first the foundation 783 00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:47,620 of the building and then you're, and then you're going to 784 00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:49,140 come back and put up the drywall and then you're going to 785 00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:51,700 come back and do that. Like, you know, just make those small steps, 786 00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:56,020 like make it something attainable. Like I, I, I love fast 787 00:37:56,020 --> 00:38:00,700 food and it's, it was like a big journey for us in our marriage, 788 00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:04,485 like starting. Yeah, it was, I love it. It was such a, yeah, it 789 00:38:04,485 --> 00:38:07,700 a was such Such a journey, like, at first. And so. Because I 790 00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:10,060 just love it. It's so delicious, and it's comforting and 791 00:38:10,060 --> 00:38:12,100 it's warm, and I didn't have to. I don't have to do any dishes 792 00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:14,300 afterwards. Like, you know, it's like all these amazing things, 793 00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:17,020 but, like, ultimately, it was having a negative effect on my body. 794 00:38:17,020 --> 00:38:20,100 And I think you. I think another thing is just try and separate 795 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:23,660 the negative effects from just how your body looks. Because if you're 796 00:38:23,740 --> 00:38:27,820 completely. Like, there's way more negative effects to fast food 797 00:38:27,820 --> 00:38:31,260 and processed foods and candies and sodas. Like, there's 798 00:38:31,260 --> 00:38:33,660 so many more negative effects to those things besides just the 799 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:35,980 effects. Like, besides the fact that it goes to your hips or 800 00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:37,820 besides the fact that it's gonna make you look a little bloated. 801 00:38:37,820 --> 00:38:41,020 Like, there's so many more things to consider. And so something 802 00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:44,500 that I had to do is, like, I had to kind of desensitize myself 803 00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:47,460 to, like, my weight. Like, I was like, okay, like, I'm gonna weigh 804 00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:49,820 myself today, and I'm not gonna have a panic attack about it. 805 00:38:49,820 --> 00:38:52,460 Like, and then just like, it's like, every day. It's just something 806 00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:54,780 that. And I don't even do it every day anymore. But there was 807 00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:57,220 a period of time where I had to desensitize myself to it, because 808 00:38:57,220 --> 00:39:00,520 every time I did it, it was like, oh, my gosh, like, just, like, 809 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,040 freak out mode. But in reality, it's just like, okay, like, 810 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,480 that's a. That's a metric that I can take into consideration, but 811 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,720 it's not. It doesn't define me. Like, you know, and so I think 812 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,080 for. For those that listen, that are listening, that you're like, 813 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,440 oh, my gosh, like, these people are all talking about this. 814 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,040 No, like, it's attainable. It's a daily decision that you can 815 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,000 make. And just, like, it's not about how you look. It's not about. 816 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,600 It's about whether or not your body is, you know, able to do the 817 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,920 things that the Lord is asking you to do. 818 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,680 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we. Yeah, man. I. I think we don't. 819 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,520 We don't want to put the wrong fuel in our cars. You know, they're 820 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,240 just cars. And we belong to Jesus, and he had given us. And. 821 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:38,520 Right. 822 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,920 Like, he has given us an assignment. 823 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,480 No. Yeah. 824 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,280 Has a mission. And so we can either. Like, we eat so many times 825 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,680 a day. Like, we can either poison ourselves or help build something 826 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,810 that worth doing. And so. And I agree with Becky. I think it's 827 00:39:52,810 --> 00:39:55,250 about consistency in the right Direction. 828 00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:55,770 Yeah. 829 00:39:55,770 --> 00:40:00,090 It's so easy for us to. The comparison game is so subtle and 830 00:40:00,090 --> 00:40:04,490 so, so dangerous because I, I can always look at someone that, 831 00:40:04,810 --> 00:40:07,810 you know, looks like they have it all together. They, they, Oh, 832 00:40:07,810 --> 00:40:10,530 I think they look better than me. They're stronger than me. They 833 00:40:10,530 --> 00:40:13,210 play pickleball better than me or whatever it is. 834 00:40:13,450 --> 00:40:14,810 The one thing you found, the one. 835 00:40:14,810 --> 00:40:17,690 Thing I do better than you. Let's go bench press. Let's go do 836 00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:19,690 some squats. Let's. Yeah, let's go do some pull ups. 837 00:40:19,690 --> 00:40:20,570 Let's see who wins. 838 00:40:20,810 --> 00:40:21,930 But not me. 839 00:40:22,410 --> 00:40:26,410 But you, you get the point. It's, it's, it's not about that comparison. 840 00:40:26,490 --> 00:40:29,410 He's like, he's like dissociate. He's like, he's trying 841 00:40:29,410 --> 00:40:33,290 to dissolve. The reason why I started laughing when you were talking 842 00:40:33,290 --> 00:40:36,050 about, like, you don't put the wrong fuel in your car is I was remembering 843 00:40:36,050 --> 00:40:38,490 this, you know, exactly where you were going. 844 00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:39,970 So I lost eyes with you. 845 00:40:39,970 --> 00:40:43,250 We have a friend that we love so much, and she's the best. And 846 00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:46,330 one time, it was when I was at GPC at our Grand Prairie campus and 847 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:49,440 she was late to service or something and we were like, what 848 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,880 the heck happened? And she was like, well, I put diesel in my. And 849 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,960 it was, I was about to. 850 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,360 Interject when he said, you don't want to put, you know, fuel 851 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,880 like diesel in a regular engine. We love you. 852 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:01,760 We love you. 853 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,640 You're awesome. 854 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,440 But it was just. Yeah, anyways, so that's my bad. But yes, 855 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,640 no, I agree 100 with you. So what are all that being said? Like, 856 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,160 what are some sticky parts of stewardship? Like, what are some 857 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,040 tricky parts to it? Like, we talked a little bit about idolatry. 858 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,580 We talked a little bit, like, laziness or lack of motivation. Like, 859 00:41:20,580 --> 00:41:24,340 what are some other parts in yalls journeys y' all have wrestled 860 00:41:24,340 --> 00:41:24,620 with? 861 00:41:24,780 --> 00:41:29,220 No, for me, I'm very much what Tony was talking about. Like, I operate 862 00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:32,660 in extremes and I do well in extremes. But then it's the lack 863 00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:36,580 of consistency after the extreme that I fall into. So, for 864 00:41:36,580 --> 00:41:40,420 example, running, I set out, I was like, hey, I'm gonna run 300 865 00:41:40,420 --> 00:41:43,020 miles in this year, invite people to it. 866 00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:43,820 That is psycho. 867 00:41:43,820 --> 00:41:51,100 As soon as I hit 300, you're like, I'm done. I, I, I, you know, 868 00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:55,940 I, I slowly tapered off. And then I just didn't run it cold turkey. 869 00:41:55,940 --> 00:42:00,060 And then, and then I fell in this cycle where it was like, it 870 00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:03,860 was, I was comparing myself to where I was and where I am now. And 871 00:42:03,860 --> 00:42:07,980 it was harder to run a mile. I was like, I'm just not even gonna 872 00:42:07,980 --> 00:42:12,900 run anymore. And I just. I do well in, like, dieting. I'd go hard 873 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,640 for a season. Oh, if there's a challenge, bro, we're gonna. My brother, 874 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,000 bro. And my other brother. Am I gonna get into this right now? 875 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,040 I'm just saying, man, there was a lot of money on the table, 876 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,800 and you did great. 877 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,520 And you did great. 878 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,600 I did great. And as soon as I didn't get paid, I indulged a lot 879 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,280 of food to cover. Like, you know what? 880 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:33,720 Forget this. 881 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:37,120 But it's like, I do well in extremes, but it's the, like, you're 882 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,710 saying, like, consistency in the right direction that I find hard. 883 00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:41,670 But it's. 884 00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:50,430 I'm sorry. It really got me. They paid me to be physically fit. 885 00:42:50,430 --> 00:42:53,070 Quit looking at those actors and celebrities. They are paid to 886 00:42:53,070 --> 00:42:56,110 look like that, man. If you paid me to do it, you better. You 887 00:42:56,110 --> 00:42:58,070 best believe I'd be doing it. 888 00:42:59,030 --> 00:43:02,070 Maybe that's what I needed. Well, Zara was.0. 889 00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:05,720 Was supposed to get paid because you. You did great. And which 890 00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:08,560 is this challenge that we. Even you and I have been on some 891 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,640 of these journeys, and there have been moments where we've done 892 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,920 challenges together, and they've been really good. But we 893 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,480 always talk about the post challenge. 894 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:14,800 Yeah. 895 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,960 And so I think that the challenges are good for, like, a 896 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,960 good injection. But what I learned is that if a challenge worked 897 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,760 temporarily and I developed no consistent habits from that challenge, 898 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,520 then it was a waste of time. Yeah, it wasn't good. 899 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:28,960 Yeah. 900 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,400 And so going back to what you're saying, like, what are some 901 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,080 sticky parts? It's thinking that the one big effort, I will do 902 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,000 this, and I'll be okay for the rest of my life. No. Fitness is a 903 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,960 lifelong journey, and you have to find. You talked about earlier, 904 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,960 those small steps that you can be consistent in. Which is why I 905 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,000 talked about find what works for you, what you enjoy. Because 906 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,400 I tried a ton of different fads, and some of them worked temporarily 907 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,000 and some of them didn't. But to go from the weight that I was 908 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:58,250 at. 909 00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:58,800 Yeah. 910 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,000 Being able to. To lose and come to a place of health. To lose 911 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,320 all that weight and come to a place of health, the only way I was 912 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,640 able to keep it was by finding what worked for me. Finding what 913 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:12,080 was consistent for me. Yeah. And so a sticky part is not developing 914 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,360 habits during certain, like, efforts or intentional efforts that 915 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,160 you make. Yeah. That's good. 916 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,000 Yeah. Which is. And I. I agree, like, I think that's why I 917 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,360 disagree really strongly with fad diets, having been on some myself. 918 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,530 Like, I think if your only goal is to lose weight and like, 919 00:44:26,530 --> 00:44:28,330 you're going to lose the weight, you're going to gain it all 920 00:44:28,330 --> 00:44:31,010 back. Like, if you don't have like those, like, those decisions 921 00:44:31,010 --> 00:44:34,090 in place of, like, if you don't attain and then also like, 922 00:44:34,330 --> 00:44:38,410 that. I feel like your motivation for pursuing physical 923 00:44:38,410 --> 00:44:40,970 health and fitness is so important. Like, if your motivation 924 00:44:40,970 --> 00:44:43,490 is coming from a place of like, I need to lose weight so I 925 00:44:43,490 --> 00:44:46,330 can increase my value as a person, or I need to lose weight 926 00:44:46,330 --> 00:44:49,890 so I can, like, exactly. Like, there is a level of narcissism there 927 00:44:49,890 --> 00:44:53,410 that is not a good foundation for anything in your life. It's dangerous. 928 00:44:53,410 --> 00:44:56,280 And it's a dangerous mentality because at that point you're at, 929 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,440 like, you're telling yourself that you're only worth as much as 930 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,320 your body looks in the mirror. And that's not, it's not, it's not 931 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,400 godly. That's not a good thing to look for. And so I think if your 932 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,720 motivation is like, I'm gonna, I. I care about my health. And I 933 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:11,080 think, like, I was thinking about this, like, one of the conversations 934 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,600 that me and Carlos had. Like, like in my journey with, like, before, 935 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,640 you know, getting to the gastro doctor, but like, just like 936 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,680 really having a hard time with my body. And then I was like, I already 937 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,840 feel like crap, so I'm gonna eat whatever I want and then make 938 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,960 it worse, but I don't even care. Like, you know, just like kind 939 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,590 of like that cycle. And one thing that really helped was Carlos 940 00:45:28,590 --> 00:45:31,710 was like, becky, you're my only wife. Like, I, like, I want 941 00:45:31,710 --> 00:45:34,870 to, like, I'm not telling you these things because I want you to 942 00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:37,910 look a certain way. Like, I'm asking you to, like, take this seriously 943 00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:40,110 because, like, I want you to run for our kids. Like, I want you 944 00:45:40,110 --> 00:45:42,790 to run for our marriage. And just like that, like that long term 945 00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:46,070 mentality, that's good even if you're not married. Like, if there's 946 00:45:46,070 --> 00:45:48,230 things that you feel like the Lord has called you to do and you 947 00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:51,190 haven't, like, been able to step into that obedience yet, take 948 00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:54,070 it seriously. Like, you know, the Lord is like this, this body 949 00:45:54,070 --> 00:45:57,790 of mine is like a gift that I'm stewarding. And so, like, how 950 00:45:57,790 --> 00:46:01,150 can I make these decisions to impact, like, the future generations 951 00:46:01,150 --> 00:46:05,670 or the future kingdom impact that you're gonna be making, but 952 00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:08,510 if you're not around to do it or if, like, your health is failing 953 00:46:08,510 --> 00:46:10,990 you because of decisions that you hadn't been able to make. And 954 00:46:10,990 --> 00:46:13,910 again, like, I think that I'm so glad that you brought it up earlier. 955 00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:16,110 Like, there's people that have like legitimate health issues that 956 00:46:16,110 --> 00:46:18,310 they, that there are legitimate boundaries that they have. 957 00:46:18,650 --> 00:46:21,330 But I just think of that verse, like as much as it depends 958 00:46:21,330 --> 00:46:24,410 on you, kind of like, like, like that was talking about be at 959 00:46:24,410 --> 00:46:26,490 peace with everybody, but I think the same thing would apply. 960 00:46:26,490 --> 00:46:27,290 It's like a principle. 961 00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:30,090 Yes, like a principle. Like as much as it depends on you, like where, 962 00:46:30,090 --> 00:46:33,210 where your decisions are impacting you. Like make the right 963 00:46:33,210 --> 00:46:33,530 ones. 964 00:46:33,530 --> 00:46:34,010 That's good. 965 00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:34,290 Yeah. 966 00:46:34,290 --> 00:46:34,850 So, yeah. 967 00:46:34,850 --> 00:46:37,410 And I think that something that I've, we've heard from Pastor 968 00:46:37,410 --> 00:46:41,690 Jason that has deeply impacted me is allow your decisions to be 969 00:46:41,690 --> 00:46:42,890 based on who you are. 970 00:46:42,970 --> 00:46:43,410 Yeah. 971 00:46:43,410 --> 00:46:46,810 And so because we belong to Jesus, then, you know, sometimes 972 00:46:46,810 --> 00:46:49,930 I say, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go to the gym today. Guess 973 00:46:49,930 --> 00:46:53,650 what? I don't wanna go, but I'm an athlete, so let's do this 974 00:46:53,650 --> 00:46:57,730 kind of thing, you know. And so it's, it's, it's trying to teach 975 00:46:57,730 --> 00:47:03,610 my heart that I, I'm on a journey to become someone that looks 976 00:47:03,610 --> 00:47:07,970 more like Jesus in every way. And so again, it's not about trying 977 00:47:07,970 --> 00:47:11,890 to get from point A to point B and achieve a certain way and look 978 00:47:11,890 --> 00:47:16,150 a certain way, but it's, it's. Man, I, I want to become like Jesus 979 00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:19,470 and I want my, my life to be surrendered to him in every way. 980 00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:20,110 That's good. 981 00:47:20,350 --> 00:47:23,830 Whatever that may look like for you, you know, again, find what 982 00:47:23,830 --> 00:47:27,310 works out for you. Find the things that are fun. Love playing 983 00:47:27,310 --> 00:47:30,470 volleyball. If I could play volleyball every day and not go to 984 00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:33,430 the gym, I probably would, you know, because that would be a lot 985 00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:34,910 more life giving, but. 986 00:47:35,470 --> 00:47:36,310 Sounds like fun. 987 00:47:36,310 --> 00:47:37,350 Yeah. Let's play volleyball. 988 00:47:37,350 --> 00:47:38,150 We should play volleyball. 989 00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:41,640 Let's do it, man. We'll have a follow up podcast pick after the 990 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,320 proposal. 991 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,720 No, but yeah, just try to make those decisions based on your identity 992 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:50,840 and yeah, don't, don't attach it to the results and the outcome. 993 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,240 Yeah. Because then it's, it's just downhill from there. 994 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:58,080 Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. I also think something is control 995 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,400 issues. Like, is that like I, I feel like we've talked about this 996 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,240 before, but I think even like, I think sometimes people think of 997 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:07,530 control issues as like they want to have control of everything. 998 00:48:07,530 --> 00:48:10,610 And even though that's true, I think there's also like, in my case, 999 00:48:10,610 --> 00:48:13,010 I tend to be on the opposite side. I don't necessarily care for 1000 00:48:13,010 --> 00:48:16,010 control. I just, like, in fact, I don't want to have any control. 1001 00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:19,170 Like, I'm like. Like, I would much rather people make the decisions 1002 00:48:19,170 --> 00:48:22,010 for me and not have to do anything, like, for it. And so, like. 1003 00:48:22,090 --> 00:48:25,410 And it's very counterculture to, like, who I am as a person, how 1004 00:48:25,410 --> 00:48:28,490 I operate, because I've been, like, I have grown in that. But, 1005 00:48:28,490 --> 00:48:31,370 like, my default is I would just love to not have to make any 1006 00:48:31,370 --> 00:48:33,970 decisions ever. Like, and that was. And, like, the wedding season. 1007 00:48:33,970 --> 00:48:36,590 Oh, my gosh, like, that was so much stress because I had to make 1008 00:48:36,980 --> 00:48:39,100 so many decisions. Like, we had to make so many decisions, and 1009 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:43,100 I was, like, exhausted all the time. So I think it's revealed to 1010 00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:47,380 me, like, a lack of desire for ownership in my health journey. Like, 1011 00:48:47,380 --> 00:48:51,180 I'm like, if Carlos could plan all of my meals and if Carlos could 1012 00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:53,940 plan all these things, like, then, okay, great, I'll do it. But 1013 00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:58,060 there's a lack of ownership there that I don't. And so I guess, 1014 00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:00,940 like, it's. To me, it's revealed my control issues in that 1015 00:49:00,940 --> 00:49:04,350 sense. Like, that I just. I have a hard time accepting ownership 1016 00:49:04,350 --> 00:49:08,110 of my body and, like, my physical health journey. But have 1017 00:49:08,110 --> 00:49:09,910 you all wrestled with anything like that? 1018 00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:15,190 That was a lot. That was so deep. 1019 00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:19,470 Oh, it was. It was. You know, I'm just still kind of processing 1020 00:49:19,470 --> 00:49:22,230 what you said about there being a control issue, to not want 1021 00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:25,750 to be in control. But you hit it. You hit the nail on the head 1022 00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:31,190 with ownership, and it goes back to you saying, okay, God, what 1023 00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:35,640 have you given me to work with and how can I steward that? Well, 1024 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,760 and if I am not making intentional decisions to follow the 1025 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,760 spirit in my health journey, because that's something that I want 1026 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,360 to make sure that, like, is we keep, you know, beating that drum. 1027 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,000 Like, the health journey has to be tied with your spiritual journey, 1028 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,440 because that's how you can find that balance. What is control 1029 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,200 and what is being led by the spirit? And how do you find that 1030 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,240 balance in between? Yeah. So this idea of ownership, I would also 1031 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:05,530 say, is, like, intentionality, and it's just pursuing God in it 1032 00:50:05,610 --> 00:50:09,410 to develop those areas of vacancy that we have inside us, those 1033 00:50:09,410 --> 00:50:12,410 areas of weakness that we have inside us. And that's where you will 1034 00:50:12,410 --> 00:50:15,530 identify what is a true control issue. I think control issue 1035 00:50:15,530 --> 00:50:16,210 is a human thing. 1036 00:50:16,210 --> 00:50:17,290 Yeah, 100%. 1037 00:50:17,610 --> 00:50:21,930 And if we can find the areas that we want to control in our lives 1038 00:50:22,010 --> 00:50:25,810 and how they affect our spiritual health and our physical 1039 00:50:25,810 --> 00:50:27,890 health, I think we're trending in the right Direction. 1040 00:50:27,890 --> 00:50:29,360 Yeah, I agree. Yeah. 1041 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,160 This is. Maybe this is a little bit shifting of thing, but 1042 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,680 I was just listening to you guys talk about it, and, like, I'm 1043 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,320 picking nuggets and wisdom and like, oh, I can do this and I can 1044 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,240 do that, and I can do this. I think my temptation is like, brahma. 1045 00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:48,880 Do it all at once. Like, now I got the. Now I got the answer, and 1046 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,680 I got. You're all in, baby. I'm all in. You know, all right. 1047 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,170 You know, go. But, like, then, yeah, honestly, just listening to 1048 00:50:56,170 --> 00:51:00,930 you guys talk about stewardship, about discipline, it's 1049 00:51:00,930 --> 00:51:03,010 like, I don't have to be there tomorrow. 1050 00:51:03,010 --> 00:51:03,490 Yeah. 1051 00:51:03,490 --> 00:51:07,570 No, it is a journey. And, like, I can pick sleep. Maybe I'll 1052 00:51:07,570 --> 00:51:08,090 start there. 1053 00:51:08,090 --> 00:51:08,610 Yeah. 1054 00:51:08,610 --> 00:51:09,730 Own my evenings. 1055 00:51:09,730 --> 00:51:10,129 Yes. 1056 00:51:10,129 --> 00:51:13,530 And just work on that for a season and then go on to the next 1057 00:51:13,530 --> 00:51:16,290 thing, because, I don't know, my brain just is like, those are 1058 00:51:16,290 --> 00:51:16,890 all good things. 1059 00:51:16,970 --> 00:51:17,530 Let's do it. 1060 00:51:17,530 --> 00:51:20,730 Let's do it now. It'll affect me tomorrow. I'll be the best person 1061 00:51:20,730 --> 00:51:22,630 ever. You know, it's like, no, it's developing. 1062 00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:23,470 Those rhythms in life. 1063 00:51:23,470 --> 00:51:24,270 Yeah, Yeah, I agree. 1064 00:51:24,350 --> 00:51:27,910 And the more you lean into the spirit of God, the more you'll hear 1065 00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:30,510 him say, this is the focus I want for you right now. 1066 00:51:30,510 --> 00:51:31,630 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1067 00:51:31,630 --> 00:51:33,950 No, I agree. There's a. There's a really good quote that 1068 00:51:33,950 --> 00:51:37,590 Scott Giles, one of. He was on staff for a long time, and he said, 1069 00:51:37,590 --> 00:51:40,270 like, the best time to plant. And he was quoting something. I don't 1070 00:51:40,270 --> 00:51:42,270 know who he originally said it, but he was saying, like, the 1071 00:51:42,270 --> 00:51:45,110 best time to plant a tree is 10 years ago, but the second best 1072 00:51:45,110 --> 00:51:47,900 time to plant a tree is today. And so, like, even if you're like, 1073 00:51:48,290 --> 00:51:52,370 shoot, I've been like, I'm in this rut, and I have all the. Like, 1074 00:51:52,370 --> 00:51:55,890 all the interest accumulated on my bad decisions. But, like, you 1075 00:51:55,890 --> 00:51:58,290 can make. Start making good decisions today. Like, and even if 1076 00:51:58,290 --> 00:52:02,490 it's like, you know, I'm not. And I want to say this, like, and 1077 00:52:02,490 --> 00:52:05,490 this is because I've learned this personally. Switching to Coke 1078 00:52:05,490 --> 00:52:08,570 Zero instead of drinking Coke is not the same thing. Like, it is. 1079 00:52:08,570 --> 00:52:11,530 Like, yeah, sure. It doesn't have calories. I know. And I had 1080 00:52:11,530 --> 00:52:14,460 to, like, I would. I was drinking a Coke Zero a day day. And, 1081 00:52:14,460 --> 00:52:16,620 like, not even joking. And it was like, the mini cans. So I was 1082 00:52:16,620 --> 00:52:18,820 justifying. I was like, oh, it's like a little sippy sip of Coke 1083 00:52:18,820 --> 00:52:21,860 Zero. Like, I'm fine. At least it's color, but it's chemicals, man. 1084 00:52:21,860 --> 00:52:23,940 Like, it's Straight up chemicals. And it wasn't until, like, 1085 00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:26,380 I stopped drinking it that I realized, like, oh, my gosh. And 1086 00:52:26,380 --> 00:52:29,580 so, like, by good decisions, I'm not necessarily saying, like, 1087 00:52:29,740 --> 00:52:32,500 switch to all diet drinks instead of, like, your sodas, but, 1088 00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:35,580 like, just try and see what decisions and, like, look at the 1089 00:52:35,580 --> 00:52:37,700 ingredients, man. I didn't start looking at the ingredients 1090 00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:40,850 until I married Carlos because he's so, like, particular about it. 1091 00:52:40,850 --> 00:52:44,090 Like, he'd get a tea and be like, look, this has, like, 45 added 1092 00:52:44,090 --> 00:52:46,570 grams of sugar. And I was like, what does that even mean? Like, 1093 00:52:46,570 --> 00:52:50,130 I just. I've never. I never processed things. I never looked 1094 00:52:50,130 --> 00:52:50,610 at the ingredients. 1095 00:52:50,610 --> 00:52:53,930 What I hear you saying is that we order. Okay, What I hear you say 1096 00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:55,250 is that we all need a Carlos in our lives. 1097 00:52:55,250 --> 00:52:55,650 Yes. 1098 00:52:56,370 --> 00:52:57,650 No, they got apps for that. 1099 00:52:58,210 --> 00:52:59,330 Carlos. AI. 1100 00:53:01,250 --> 00:53:02,130 Sounds nice. 1101 00:53:02,450 --> 00:53:06,950 We would make. We would make millions. That's what I'm saying. 1102 00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:08,310 Like, grab the ingredients. 1103 00:53:08,310 --> 00:53:12,830 Hey, Carlos, how many grams of sugar is in this thing in our skin? 1104 00:53:14,670 --> 00:53:18,030 Like, look at the ingredients. Like, try and, like, truly, the goal 1105 00:53:18,030 --> 00:53:20,670 is not, like, diet. Like, the goal is not necessarily those things. 1106 00:53:20,670 --> 00:53:23,350 It's like those good decisions that are going to have that are going 1107 00:53:23,350 --> 00:53:25,710 to set you up for success in the long term. Because it's already 1108 00:53:25,710 --> 00:53:27,710 a habit. Like, build a new habit today. 1109 00:53:27,710 --> 00:53:28,110 Yeah. 1110 00:53:28,110 --> 00:53:28,990 Is what I'm saying. 1111 00:53:29,230 --> 00:53:32,150 Yeah. And I think the. The beautiful thing about that sometimes 1112 00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:35,610 we. We have conversations about wanting to go get fast food 1113 00:53:35,610 --> 00:53:36,370 because we just. 1114 00:53:36,370 --> 00:53:36,890 I'm tired. 1115 00:53:36,890 --> 00:53:38,170 We just. Yeah, we're just tired. 1116 00:53:38,170 --> 00:53:38,730 That was me. 1117 00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:42,090 And, you know, and we have these conversations about how we 1118 00:53:42,090 --> 00:53:46,050 can only feast, you know, when we make room for it. 1119 00:53:46,290 --> 00:53:46,610 We. 1120 00:53:46,610 --> 00:53:51,650 We can't. If we feast every day and if we just go for the things 1121 00:53:51,650 --> 00:53:54,450 that we want all the time, then it kind of loses the value. 1122 00:53:54,450 --> 00:53:56,290 Yeah. You know, but you don't know what. 1123 00:53:56,290 --> 00:53:58,490 Feasting is at that point because you're always. Yeah, yeah. 1124 00:53:58,490 --> 00:54:01,410 But, like, if there is an anticipation and a preparation for 1125 00:54:01,410 --> 00:54:05,140 it, then it's. It's. It's so much more sweeter. You know, you 1126 00:54:05,140 --> 00:54:06,220 enjoy it so much more. 1127 00:54:06,220 --> 00:54:09,380 So what you're saying is that. No, no, I'm trying. I'm trying to. 1128 00:54:09,380 --> 00:54:12,100 No, no, I kind of. No, I'm trying to be serious. Why are you 1129 00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:12,860 looking at me like that? 1130 00:54:12,860 --> 00:54:13,980 Mischievous. Face up. 1131 00:54:13,980 --> 00:54:17,100 No, it wasn't mischievous. I was trying to be legit. What you're 1132 00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:19,980 saying is that it's. It's not bad to enjoy food. 1133 00:54:19,980 --> 00:54:20,460 Yeah. 1134 00:54:20,860 --> 00:54:21,580 I think it's a good thing. 1135 00:54:21,580 --> 00:54:21,900 Yes. 1136 00:54:23,180 --> 00:54:23,900 Jesus. 1137 00:54:24,140 --> 00:54:27,300 But there is. There is what I hear you also saying is that there's. 1138 00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:30,310 There's a balance. And I love this idea of fasting and feasting. 1139 00:54:30,550 --> 00:54:34,830 Right. And what do you abstain from so that you can really and truly 1140 00:54:34,830 --> 00:54:37,270 enjoy? And it goes back to the rhythm of Sabbath, which we've talked 1141 00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:40,190 about here before. And so it's good. 1142 00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:40,510 Yeah, man. 1143 00:54:40,510 --> 00:54:40,870 It's important. 1144 00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:41,910 I had pizza last night. 1145 00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:42,430 Yeah. 1146 00:54:42,430 --> 00:54:43,270 Some carrot cake. 1147 00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:44,310 There you go. 1148 00:54:44,310 --> 00:54:47,190 Pizza. No carrot cake. My carrot. 1149 00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:50,390 Even his cake is a mess. 1150 00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:54,790 You know what I'm saying? Come on, man. Not pizza and ice cream. 1151 00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:57,510 Pizza and a Coke. Like pizza and Paris. 1152 00:54:57,670 --> 00:55:03,320 I was given. It wasn't. You know, I didn't pick the flavor anyway. 1153 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,040 We love you, brother. Yeah. 1154 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,320 Another question that I have or that Marty has actually is just 1155 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,800 the thought. And it's not a question, really, but just a statement 1156 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,880 that I'd like us to talk about because I think it's important. And 1157 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,000 ultimately it's like, it summarizes most of this. But, like, 1158 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:19,480 when you're healthy, do you agree that you can minister to the 1159 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,720 Gospel better? Like, yeah, yeah. 1160 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:23,260 100. 1161 00:55:23,380 --> 00:55:24,640 100, right. 1162 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,360 Yeah. Why? Why is that? 1163 00:55:27,870 --> 00:55:32,030 I think it's. I mean, it. It just goes back to, I think, just 1164 00:55:32,030 --> 00:55:36,110 stewardship. It goes back to obedience. It goes back to what you 1165 00:55:36,110 --> 00:55:42,150 mentioned, Romans 12:1 2. I have to offer my physical body to 1166 00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:45,310 the Holy Spirit and allow him to do what he wants to do through 1167 00:55:45,310 --> 00:55:49,870 me. I am a vessel, and so it is stewardship of my physical body 1168 00:55:49,870 --> 00:55:54,200 in order to proclaim the Gospel, to go to the ends of the 1169 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,560 earth, to do the ministry that he has entrusted me to do. 1170 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,040 Yeah. So no spirit of God, being the disembodied member of the 1171 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:06,600 Trinity and how we find in Scripture that we are called to allow 1172 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:11,000 him to overtake us and overtake our bodies, to be able to 1173 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,240 bring glory to the Father and to accomplish his will. There's a 1174 00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:17,720 lot of humility in that. There's a lot of humility in fitness. 1175 00:56:18,430 --> 00:56:20,790 Like, okay, I'm not getting these goals, but I'm going to get 1176 00:56:20,790 --> 00:56:25,030 to where I can get today. Maybe it's not the ultimate thing, 1177 00:56:25,030 --> 00:56:28,270 but if I find this win today, and that's a step of humility in 1178 00:56:28,270 --> 00:56:31,950 saying, I'm going to allow myself to be transformed by the renewing 1179 00:56:31,950 --> 00:56:35,750 of our mind, to be transformed by the Spirit of God in me. And so 1180 00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:40,590 you become a better minister of the Gospel and you become a better 1181 00:56:40,590 --> 00:56:44,310 believer in Jesus and disciple of Jesus when you're willing to let 1182 00:56:44,310 --> 00:56:47,360 the Spirit lead you to. In your spiritual health and in your 1183 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:47,880 physical health. 1184 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,240 Yeah, I agree. I agree. 1185 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,280 Yeah. And something I do want to say is that, you know, maybe someone 1186 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,640 listening, they'll say, I'm just in a really hard season with 1187 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,280 my health right now, and I feel like everything is just so debilitating. 1188 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,480 I. I also want to encourage you and say the Lord can use even 1189 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:05,800 that. 1190 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,320 Yeah. 1191 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,520 You know, he is not. He is. He is powerful to use you regardless 1192 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,670 of the season. So going back to what we're talking about, it's. 1193 00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:16,140 It's as much as it depends on you. 1194 00:57:16,220 --> 00:57:16,660 Yeah. 1195 00:57:16,660 --> 00:57:19,660 Right. Certain things we just can't control. That's not what we're 1196 00:57:19,660 --> 00:57:23,100 trying to. To address here. But I agree with you guys. I think 1197 00:57:23,660 --> 00:57:28,300 I heard this quote or someone say, I don't want my body to give 1198 00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:30,540 out before my calling is over. 1199 00:57:30,780 --> 00:57:31,260 Yeah. 1200 00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:35,500 You know, so if. If the Lord has given us an assignment, we want 1201 00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:39,220 to give our bodies to him and say, lord, it's yours for you to 1202 00:57:39,220 --> 00:57:43,640 use and do whatever you want. But as Tony was saying, the spirit 1203 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:49,200 is the disembodied member of the Trinity, and he lives in bodies. 1204 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:56,560 Right. So we are bodily. We're spiritual beings that have bodies, 1205 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:01,440 too. And that matters. You know, going back to how some, like, 1206 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,600 Gnostics would look at the separation between body and spirit, 1207 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,120 and it's like, the matter doesn't really. That hasn't any value. 1208 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,840 But that's not what we see in the Bible. All of it matters. And 1209 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,600 so I agree with you guys. If we. If we're in a place to give our 1210 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,800 bodies to the Lord and say, lord, this is. This is our best offering 1211 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,320 to you. We're doing our best here to honor you. I think he will 1212 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,240 be glorified by that. 1213 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,920 Yeah, I agree. I agree. And I think I'm going to butcher this quote 1214 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,600 because I can't remember it exactly, but Pastor Levi Lesko, who, 1215 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,240 like, digitally mentored me before I found a church, he was talking 1216 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,440 about kind of physical health. And one thing that he said is, like, 1217 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,720 if you're always looking for pleasure, then you're chained to 1218 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,440 the highest bidder, ultimately. And so it was just kind 1219 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,640 of confirming it. So if I'm looking to food only to make me feel 1220 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,000 good, then I'm always gonna find it. But there's always a bunch 1221 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,320 of fine print with that that I'm not gonna know until after. And 1222 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,240 then. And same thing with going to the gym. My doctor told 1223 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,050 me, you can't work out for, like, a couple weeks. And I was like, 1224 00:59:05,050 --> 00:59:07,850 okay, great. And then she released, and I Was like, you don't 1225 00:59:07,850 --> 00:59:11,170 have to tell me twice. I got it, like perfect. Yeah, yeah. And 1226 00:59:11,170 --> 00:59:13,770 then I finally had my follow up appointment. She was like, okay, 1227 00:59:13,770 --> 00:59:16,850 you can start working on now. And I was like, I kind of. 1228 00:59:16,850 --> 00:59:17,690 Like what was going on. 1229 00:59:18,730 --> 00:59:21,370 But ultimately, like, that's just me giving in to like my flesh. 1230 00:59:21,370 --> 00:59:23,410 Like my flesh is just a spoiled child that gets whatever 1231 00:59:23,410 --> 00:59:26,250 it wants. And so it's like, if I don't want to go to the gym, I'm 1232 00:59:26,250 --> 00:59:30,730 not gonna go regardless. And so it's just kind of like, like self 1233 00:59:30,730 --> 00:59:33,050 control is a fruit of the spirit. And so ultimately just going 1234 00:59:33,050 --> 00:59:36,210 back to that and just not looking, like not everything has 1235 00:59:36,210 --> 00:59:39,250 to make you feel good for it to be good for you. Does that make 1236 00:59:39,250 --> 00:59:39,570 sense? 1237 00:59:39,570 --> 00:59:43,450 And you think of you just said something that our bodies are just 1238 00:59:43,930 --> 00:59:45,250 selfish beings. 1239 00:59:45,250 --> 00:59:45,610 Yeah. 1240 00:59:46,250 --> 00:59:49,690 And part of physical health and fitness and all this kind of 1241 00:59:49,690 --> 00:59:53,770 stuff is like submitting your bodies to the obedience of Christ. 1242 00:59:53,770 --> 00:59:57,750 Right. You think of what Jesus did. Like, I don't think Jesus's 1243 00:59:57,750 --> 01:00:01,510 body, like, I don't think that on the human side of him, he wanted 1244 01:00:01,510 --> 01:00:02,150 to go to the cross. 1245 01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:03,270 Right, right, right. 1246 01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:05,990 And can you imagine if he didn't do that? Can you imagine if 1247 01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:08,950 he just let himself be driven by his pleasures or by the desires 1248 01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:14,070 of his, of his physical body? Like the Bible talks about how Jesus 1249 01:00:14,070 --> 01:00:19,710 was fully God and fully man. Yes, true. So he had the same kind 1250 01:00:19,710 --> 01:00:25,190 of pullings of the, like, physical gratification and he was 1251 01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:28,190 able to submit them to Christ because he was, you know, the spirit 1252 01:00:28,190 --> 01:00:33,150 was with him. And somehow in his grace, he says, go out there 1253 01:00:33,150 --> 01:00:36,470 and do the same that I did. Yeah. And it just seems impossible, 1254 01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:40,390 but it's not when you have the right perspective. 1255 01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:41,430 Yes, I agree. 1256 01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:44,910 That matters a ton in the way that we approach it. And even going 1257 01:00:44,910 --> 01:00:48,390 back to the question about the gospel, like there would be no gospel 1258 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,760 if Jesus did not submit his body to obedience of God the Father. 1259 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,440 So I'm just grateful that there is. 1260 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,120 Yes. Yeah. Praise the God. Praise the Lord. 1261 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:56,640 Praise the Lord. 1262 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,200 That's good. 1263 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,000 Well, does any of you guys have any final thoughts or any Bible 1264 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,880 verses you want to leave us with? Anything like that? 1265 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,240 I feel like we wrapped it all up. I think it's a really good conversation. 1266 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,720 I think maybe because I don't want to give any closing thoughts. 1267 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,480 I got nothing. I've learned enough. 1268 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,240 And I'm like, you started talking already. 1269 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,800 But I just, I do want to ask like, if there's. Do you guys have 1270 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,200 any encouragement to somebody who like, maybe they're hearing this 1271 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,120 right now, and maybe they are just feeling a little discouraged 1272 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:31,680 because life is kind of crazy right now, or they feel maybe they 1273 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,760 are playing the comparison game and they're. They're struggling 1274 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:39,320 with idolatry of it, or they're struggling with the, like, 1275 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,960 lack of self worth or something. You know, like, if you 1276 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,000 could just encourage somebody with words today that's hearing this 1277 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,730 podcast, what would you tell them? 1278 01:01:49,450 --> 01:01:57,130 Man, I think I'd say I. I firmly believe that it is. It is 1279 01:01:57,130 --> 01:02:01,290 God's heart for us, that we would surrender to him in every area. 1280 01:02:01,530 --> 01:02:02,010 Yeah. 1281 01:02:02,010 --> 01:02:06,130 And we can in. In a lot of different ways. We face discouragement 1282 01:02:06,130 --> 01:02:09,090 and disappointment along the way. But I think my encouragement 1283 01:02:09,090 --> 01:02:13,810 would be he will be with you. You know, he is with you even now, 1284 01:02:14,210 --> 01:02:19,810 regardless of how defeated you may feel in your body or how comparison 1285 01:02:20,770 --> 01:02:24,210 may have crept up in your heart. And you just feel completely 1286 01:02:24,210 --> 01:02:28,890 disappointed at the, you know, after making attempts or just not 1287 01:02:28,890 --> 01:02:33,290 even being able to take the first step. But God will be with 1288 01:02:33,290 --> 01:02:33,530 you. 1289 01:02:33,530 --> 01:02:33,930 Yeah. 1290 01:02:33,930 --> 01:02:36,610 You know, I believe there's more of Jesus on the other side. 1291 01:02:37,330 --> 01:02:41,060 When we choose discipline, we're also identifying with the cries 1292 01:02:41,060 --> 01:02:45,180 who, you know, for the joy that was set before him, endured 1293 01:02:45,180 --> 01:02:50,260 the cross. And so I think my word would be there's joy on the 1294 01:02:50,260 --> 01:02:52,940 other side and there is joy along the way because Jesus will 1295 01:02:52,940 --> 01:02:55,660 be with you as you choose obedience every day. 1296 01:02:55,660 --> 01:02:56,180 That's good. 1297 01:02:56,259 --> 01:02:56,740 Yeah. 1298 01:02:56,980 --> 01:03:01,060 I don't know that I could add much more to that, but going back, 1299 01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:05,620 I am trying to imagine the person who's listening through this 1300 01:03:06,430 --> 01:03:09,670 and struggling with all the things that you just mentioned, self 1301 01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:13,710 doubt, comparison, all these different things that you mentioned, 1302 01:03:14,590 --> 01:03:17,310 I just want to tell that person, you're not alone. 1303 01:03:17,390 --> 01:03:17,870 Yeah. 1304 01:03:18,350 --> 01:03:21,990 You're not the only one who struggles through that. And Jesus 1305 01:03:21,990 --> 01:03:25,310 empathizes with what you're going through. And just like Carlos 1306 01:03:25,310 --> 01:03:32,080 said, he is with you every step of the way. And if you have 1307 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,960 to sacrifice or if you have to let go, if you have to submit something 1308 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:40,600 to the obedience of Christ, then the reward is always greater 1309 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,400 on the other side of that obedience. Because what you get is 1310 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:51,080 not just physical fitness or healthier body or all of this, my 1311 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,440 hope would be that you get more of him. Because that's the greatest 1312 01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:01,340 gift, is to have more of Him. And if somehow this physical health 1313 01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:06,620 journey gets you more of him, any sacrifice that came with it, 1314 01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:09,780 whether it be your own pride or whether it be a physical sacrifice 1315 01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:13,460 of saying no to certain foods or saying yes to certain exercise 1316 01:04:13,460 --> 01:04:17,340 or whatever it is Any sacrifice is worth it when you get 1317 01:04:17,340 --> 01:04:17,820 more of him. 1318 01:04:18,300 --> 01:04:22,940 I agree. I agree. I agree. And I think any encouragement that I 1319 01:04:22,940 --> 01:04:25,400 can. And I guess I'll just end with this is just. There's grace. 1320 01:04:25,710 --> 01:04:31,470 There's so much like, there's. And I would just recommend. And speaking 1321 01:04:31,550 --> 01:04:35,550 to myself and a younger version of myself is just choose 1322 01:04:35,630 --> 01:04:37,590 kindness to yourself along the way, too. 1323 01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:38,030 Yes. 1324 01:04:38,430 --> 01:04:40,510 Because you're not going to be perfect at it. You're going to feel 1325 01:04:40,510 --> 01:04:42,670 awkward if you go to the gym and you've never been, like, you're 1326 01:04:42,670 --> 01:04:44,150 like, I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know how to do it. 1327 01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:47,830 That's okay. Choose kindness for yourself along the journey. And 1328 01:04:47,830 --> 01:04:50,310 choose grace and not shame from the enemy, because shame is 1329 01:04:50,310 --> 01:04:54,240 not from the Lord. And so just. I would. That would be my recommendation 1330 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,600 for you guys if you're starting the journey or if this encouraged 1331 01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,720 you or inspired you. Like, you're like, I don't think I can 1332 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,040 go to the gym, but maybe I'll go on a walk outside today. Or, like, 1333 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,720 maybe I'll go play pickleball or volleyball with my friends. Like, 1334 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:10,000 you know, just choose, like, choose activity or something that. 1335 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,800 Because I believe that there is blessing in that there is health, 1336 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,080 and that there is joy to be found in that. So, yeah. 1337 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:16,920 Yeah. 1338 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,560 Thank you guys for coming. This is. 1339 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,480 I'm just happy to be here. I just sitting next to this guy. 1340 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,000 I'm ready to go get some protein shake. 1341 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,080 Yeah, let's do it. 1342 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,040 All right, guys. Well, thank you so much for listening. We love 1343 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,520 you guys so much, and we'll see you next time. Peace. 1344 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:32,480 See you guys.