You are the current IBF super lightweight world

I knew it was going to come, but at the same time, I couldn't give a s***. Ego

Nah, I'm always going to be humble, yeah. Because this can be all

You've just had a year layoff. What does that do mentally for

Welcome to the Better Bloke Podcast. I'm Matty. I'm Rob. And

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we've got someone pretty special. And I think that a

lot of the boys are going to get around who we've got. It's kind of a big

It's good to be back. You know, I've missed Australia. I'm a proud Aussie man, but

yeah, it's just, it's unreal. The whole, everything's slowly sinking

in. Like I said, we were saying before, it's been flat out, but it's part

of the job now, you know, it's part of being a superstar, I guess. I

think that that is a hundred percent the right way to go. So you

You are the current IBF super

lightweight world title holder. Yep. Yep. World champ. That's

Massive. And going to the guy that I

took out and beat for it, man, it's huge. The magnitude of the fight for

people that don't know boxing, people that knew it, knows how big it is. It's just

trying to break it into words and break it down to people that don't understand boxing. Like,

man, yeah, you know. You'd have like a, or a medal of honor if they really

Well, I think that the big thing is so Maddy's, Maddy's not a

boxing man, but you obviously, when we found out

that you wanted to come in for a chat, Maddy's done his research and you, you

went through, you watched the fight and you read up about who he

Because you know, like he's got a bit of, Oh, how would

He's a bad dude. There's a lot, like, there's a reason for

it. You know, like the tragedy where he killed, uh, Datashev, that's

all just hyped him up. No one wanted to fight him, the boogeyman, like no

one would talk his name, you know? And man, I was like, fuck it. I'm a fighter.

A fighter's fighter. I'll have a crack with anyone. I've always, anyone that knows me knows I

will. So. So, man, it just, yeah, you

got to risk it for the biscuit. And I did, and look, it paid off dead to be great. And

You went into that fight as a seven to one underdog. Yeah,

huge. Which someone's fucked up because the

bookies got that wrong. Yeah, yeah. And a lot of the boys made some

good coin from backing you to the hills. Yeah, yeah. And anyone

who knows boxing knew that Yeah. Like that

But man, everyone's happy there. Everyone cashed in. My old boy's not a betting man

and he cashed in big time. So I'm stoked, you know. Bet

on me, it's for sure money, I can say. Yeah, no, it's awesome. It's

yeah, that's it. It's just, it shows you how much the media can pump someone up

and the hype like at the end of the day is human. You know what I

mean? Two arms, two legs. So I'm gonna find a robot. I'll

have a crack with you. I reckon you'd give a robot a crack. I'll give it

Yeah. Man, you could hear it in the commentators, right? So

the, Their tone changed throughout the whole fight. They're

like coming in and they liked you, but then like the tenacity

you were showing and you were coming at him and coming at him and you changed their

tone over the course of that fight. Um, how, how

did it feel like going in as the underdog and guys that

weren't as aware of who you are and what you're like, maybe

Yeah, honestly, that was the least amount of

pressure I've ever felt in a fight, just for that reason. No one

was giving me a chance. And we just showed what we knew, our team knew. But

yeah, I was in the dressing room with Alf, and we're warming up. I was

telling him, I was like, this is it. I was so confident that

it was going to happen. You know what I mean? There was no nerves. This was it.

We had the best camp. I was like, fucking hell, I'm about to fulfill my

dream here. Man, yeah. I

don't mind it. I don't mind the underdog thing because it's just like kind of sticking your

tongue out with success to the critics, you know, and yeah, giving the finger

Oh, it is what it is. I've always wanted the target on my back and that's

what I've got now. Now I'm the hunted and what better way? I mean, I love

Are you going to start hunting all these other boys with belts though too now?

I took out the guy, you know. And man, all due

respect, I am now that guy. I'm the guy of the division. I'm the king. I'm

the captain. Exactly. So 100%, I want to clean

this division out. I said it right from the start. I want to unify and bring

And it's a stacked division too. Everyone always talks about heavyweight

and whatnot, where we've just seen a unification with that. But behind

the hype of heavyweight, Your weight class is

By far. There's heaps. He has Gus here and

Haynie have got their thing going on. Gus is out for a year after

he's been. I've got no time for cheats after he's been. And

I'd love to get, I'd love to welcome him back with a bash. He called

me out after Montana Love. So, you know, I'm not the one

to talk shit. Like I've never have been. I'm very humble. I do it

in the ring, but look, if he, I'm always a man of my word. He

wants to call me out, I'd suggest him to be a man of his and let's

get it on after. It'd be a massive fight and to bring him to Australia would mean the most, you

I'm sure they will stay in Queensland. I'm a Queenslander, that's

Yeah, 100%. They're staying here. So

with your last fight, there was one round where you went to

the corner, and like we've seen so

many other fighters that he's fought, you

Where everyone else at that point, that's usually where they're just like, yeah, nah, look,

fuck that, I'm done. You had this moment, like you

could see in the coverage where you've just sort of bit down, you've gone, yeah, fuck it.

I'm going to, I'm going to take it to him. And that's exactly what you

did. What, what goes through your head in those situations where is

kind in a way, you know, and look, I'm so competitive

and like, I've always said, I'll need to get carried out of the ring. You know what I mean? Like

in my mind, even going back before the world tour when I broke both

hands in my fight, when I fought the Italian guys,

all I think is like 36 minutes of pain. That's it. And

then after that you can recover. You have all the time in the world to recover. Like we knew

it was going to be hard. I was saying that in the, on the press conference. We

know what we're getting into. This guy's, Going off the hype, he's

killed a guy, he's making everyone quit on the stool. We knew what we

were getting into, but that kind of excites you.

But yeah, at the time I was like, fuck man, this is it. But

it doesn't get any bigger. It's a world title. It's

just, yeah, it is, like he says, do or die. You know what I mean? This is my life. I've

got nothing else from part of this. And yeah, like

it was hard, but look now, if I gave up, now

Yeah. Bad, bad man. Ozzy Boogeyman. John

Bunyip is our weird name. Yeah. So that

Is there anything like specifically that you go

to, or is it just in the moment you're like,

I'm not going to give up, not going to stop until that

I've said this right from the start and you hear Alfie say it or anyone close, RG

baby, that's it. You know, that's my switch to flick. Look,

man, you work your life for that. Honestly,

there was no quitting and going through the head at all. Alpha

gets you through that shit anyway. In other ways, don't give this kind of reason and throw

I'm so glad it's you too. He

gets you through that. Yeah, I don't know. It's

hard to put into words. It's just no, quitting is never an option, you know, ever.

Does that follow through for the camp? Because yeah, like you said, 36 minutes,

you'll get over it. But to maintain that for six weeks or,

you know, and the training before that, very prolonged amount of

time. Do you have to, you know, go home at night and be like, All

right, this is really what I want. Visualize it. What are the things in

For sure, it's what we were saying before. You're away

from your family, your loved ones for 12 weeks at a time. You're

actually going to feel flat. We're only human. You

just got to program shit in your brain that the days

you don't want to get out of bed, that's when real champs train. Anyone can train when

they feel good, but to be that 1% better, to be champion of

the world, I'm going to get up and train. Yeah,

And you obviously have those days where you're just like, fuck, I don't

You fucking know, 100%. Everyone's going to have luck. That's what we're human.

And you've just got to push through and find your reasons why. You

know, like being away from your family, I'm setting up to give them a better life, and it's

all going to be worth it. And, man, I'd do all them camps in one just for that feeling

of hearing them words and then you were just, fuck, man.

It just sparked another motivation again, you know. It's made me enjoy. the

Yeah, so you sort of just, you've got to love

You've got to enjoy the hustle, you know, and be obsessed with it.

It's all part of it, but it makes it sweeter. It's nothing good in life comes easy. So,

Now you've got the world title belt, you've kind of actually

had the taste of the proper sweetness. Yeah, yeah. Does

100%. That feeling, man, I can't even explain it. Like it

was the most euphoric feeling in the world. I've never felt a bigger high in

my life. And knowing that there's three more belts for

that to happen three more times, man, I'd be stupid not to go for it. 100% just

It's crazy. When was the last time the division

I think Josh Taylor a few years ago, after he won the Muhammad Ali

trophy and that. So a little while now, but it's

good. I think that the belt will split out again. There's big fights to be made. And

I think then once you unify, it's legit, it's not just one fight. You've done the full

five fights to get that. And it'll just make it fucking way

Exactly four more. Yeah. Bring it on. Yeah. Speaking

of that. So you were on the undercard of the pole

So influencer boxing's kind of, I don't know, becoming a

Look, you've got to give respect. I respect anyone that jumps in the ring that trains. Jake

Paul's taken serious. And on that night, he gave me the opportunity to

fight on that. And after that, that's when Matt Truman and Eddie Irwin picked me up. So

who knows, without that opportunity, I might have not got signed. But it's

bringing new eyes to the sport, which, if this sport's growing, it's

I like it, because as Rob said, I've watched the

big fights, like when, you know, I

Um, McGregor and Mayweather. Um,

but yeah, you don't watch the, the day-to-days, the things happening all

the time, but I've had my eyes on the sport a lot

And that for us, that's a heads up. Any set

of eyes continuing to grow, why not? Why wouldn't you

want to grow the sport? It's going to make bigger paydays for us, more exposure, sponsors,

All for it. That's unreal. We found before, so you said that when

you get into those hard times, you're like your switch

that you flick, you say RG to yourself. Now, a

lot of what we do here with like the Better Blow project is to

get some boys that are probably dealing with some heavy shit to start talking and

all that sort of stuff. Do you want to let those listening know sort

Oh, it was my best mate, you know, growing up that took his own life back in

2015, nearly gone like January next year is 10 years. Man,

it's, like you said, just speak up,

man, like fire out, you know. We all go through very

hard times and rough times, and things do get

better. You know what I mean? And you just need to... I know what it is like being a

dude. It's not tough to talk, but, man, you've got to do it. Mental health

is a real thing. We've all been through it. And some of

us are unfortunate enough to have close mates, brothers that take

their life. And if people it affects, it's just

not worth it. You know what I mean? Yeah, just mean I can't

stress it enough, you know, and that's why I always carry his name Like I said, I'll never let

it be forgotten. Yeah, and um, yeah, it's just something you

have to learn to live with but like I say going back to The

So yeah, that's that's something that's it's pretty special that

shows a lot about you as a bloke as well where I Some people will

be like, fuck, it hurts too much or anything like that. But instead of

doing that, you're using this motivation and then celebrating

who he is. He's your trigger. He's your fire.

Man, he would have been a super star in rugby league. Anyone that knows him is a freak.

We said we'll conquer the world. We're

going to dominate. We had these plans, this and that. We're living

it now. We're still doing it. It's still us doing that thing. Childhood mates doing

And it's sick that you're like, you're so open about boys

speaking up and just about like healthy mental

health. That was sort of what drew us to

you as well, obviously. We've been following, well, I've been following you

a long time. You've done some gnarly shit, but you're

very open about the fact that you you're all

Exactly right. What's real, you know what I mean? Like, you

don't want other people to experience that, that, that feeling,

you know, there's nothing worse in the world. Like that's still to the worst day is carrying your

best mate in his coffin for the last time. Like that's, no,

no, no. I even sat on interviews and they'd be like, where's your mindset come from?

I've been through harder things than a boxing fight, you know, and. Not

much, not much is harder than that. No way, but it can be,

you know, like, it doesn't have to happen. You

know how you feel when you have a yarn or something or anything like that, you just feel better about

it. That's all it can take. It's

And that's so good hearing that from someone who Anyone who looks

at you and is like, fuck, Paro's hard. If

a hard man like you can comfortably go out and say, just

Exactly right. There's no excuse for no

one else to do it. If anyone's judging you, they aren't the right people to be around. That's, I

think, is a clear indicator. If someone's going to be like that, thank you. That's a

God-given thing, gift. Get that person away from you. You know what I

mean? It's not a joke. It is not a joke. It's real. 100% speak

out about it. Oh, it's sick. Because you'd rather go through that tough time with

them and they'd still be here and look back on it in a few years, you know. So definitely,

I read that you and him had conversations about you getting a

Yeah, yeah, for sure. It was, well, because his team, he

wanted to play, like, this is going back, man. Like, being young as,

he was going to be, like, Sydney Roosters, that's where he wanted to play. We're just

going to live in Sydney. That was the thing. Penny houses, all this and that, you know, like,

just dreaming as kids. And, yeah, it was conquering the

world. That was what we're going to do. We're just going to be superstars at what we did. And, yeah,

it's, It's mad. We're doing it. We're still doing

it. A hundred percent. He's always there in spirit, man. Like a hundred percent. There's

some things that happened on fire week that was

just crazy. Like just crazy. A

hundred percent someone was there like, yeah, nuts

You know, cause that's like, you're, you're a big man of faith as

A hundred percent. Cause I think that that's something that like

a lot of guys will say, you know, like we've got faith in that, but you're like, you're very open

about faith, which is sick. Like you're, you're you, you're being you

That's me. That's how I am. And I'm, I'm a humble person too.

That's all. I don't do much shit talking or nothing like that, but yeah, man,

a hundred percent faith all the time. God has

That's it. Well, it's, it's working. Exactly. Right. That's

yeah. It's so sick. Cause it's, I guess it's one of those things that do

you find that gives you, I don't know, like there's that something

A hundred percent. A hundred percent. It's, um, Yeah,

I don't know. It's hard to explain, but yeah, definitely. Definitely. You've got a

purpose, you feel, I don't know, like that reassurance of,

I don't, yeah, I don't know. I could get deep in it. I don't, you know what I mean? Like if

things were to get wrong, go wrong, there's a better place

in here. You know what I mean? Like in a way, like. Because you're putting your life on

the line every time you jump in that ring. We're going in there knowing that

we cannot come out. You know what I mean? So it's a little bit of reassurance

and that's when I hop in the ring and I pray. I pray for me and my opponent. Please

bring us home safe to our loved ones and our family. At the end of the day, it's a business we're trying to make

a living. We just want to go home healthy to our loved ones.

That's sick. That's so good that you're still like, you're doing

that for your, for your opponents too. Obviously everyone

looks at boxing and they're just like, you know, fuck this bad intentions here. You're going out to

essentially take each other out. But like you

just mentioned there, it's, it's a business, it's a sport. Like there's

no malice in a lot of the guys that you're fighting other than Exactly

It's just for sport essentially like it's just Yes,

it's a cutthroat sport. I'm just trying to better off my family my life So is he

the end the day? You don't want no one to die and I know that you know what I mean? Like yes,

you'd love to knock them out cold, but go home safe to your family at the end of the day

You know because it's more to life than boxing and when it's all said and

done We're just trying to make a dollar and do better for ourselves and

Yeah speaking of that Montana love the

clips that generated from that. Do

you reckon if, if that hadn't have ended that way, you reckon you

wouldn't have had the opportunity or you had like, or mate, like you're always going to get

that belt shot. Yeah. But do you reckon that sort of sped the process up

Yeah, and the statement I made built some pipe up and stuff, but it

come to nothing with the bookies when it all was said and done, but it

was the perfect comeback after a year of injuries, back-to-back injuries. It

was the perfect statement I needed. I needed it that way. Like

you said, the videos, man, it just aged perfect. The way he was talking and carrying

We're taking a year off. When

you train as hard as you do and this is your profession, you've just

had a year layoff. What does that do

mentally for you? You've obviously gone into some dark places during

Very dark. It was very rough, from

the cheekbone fracture I didn't know about to the Achilles tear.

Like you said, this is my livelihood, this is my job. And yes,

I've had times away a few months here and there, but that was on my terms. When it's taken from

you, out of your control, the uncertainty

was scary. It was to the point where I was sitting with my mates up home, like, is

there any jobs going at the mines? And a lot of them, like my good mates,

I'm blessed to have very good close friends. And they're kind of like, nah, you're

not ready yet, bro, you know? It's like, that's always going to be there. It

was just like that spark of reality coming, like, fuck, what

if this is it now, you know? It was very

hard, very hard. And my family and loved ones knew how, but there were

How did you get out of that? Was that like your support network you've got

Yeah, I'm very lucky to have good, like very caring loved ones around me.

And you need close people that actually care, you know what I

mean? And then, like I said, I'm open to everything. I'll have a yarn about

everything. And it was, I've

got to give a shout out to one of my sponsors, Step One. He helped out in

that time too. He sponsored me with fights and that. He's like, well, I'll help

you anyway. You need financially to get through this. You're not going to the fucking mines.

You've got a lot left. I was like, yeah, fair enough. It just comes

down to the support base around me, but very, very

dark times. I'll go back and say mental health is no

joke. You know what I mean? But yeah, just, you

just gotta, yeah, just, I don't know, just keep trying, keep the fire burning.

Seeing the end goal, you know. Yeah. People talk about it in blokes advice all

the time. It's like, you know what, you're not going to have a good day every single

day. And there's going to be dark times in your life where you are down and

you're down for a while. But when you got no fight left, you

need people around you that are going to fight for you. For sure. And it's

Yeah. And that they know about it. A hundred percent. Cause look,

we like, we like to be good, but you don't know what's going on

unless you just, and it's just so simple to tell someone and all you got to

do like, man, if you knew you'd happily help

put that extra hand out to help. Cause you know, they need it, but that's it. You

I mean, I think that that's the biggest thing where everyone's afraid to

be like that mate that reaches out, but all

of your boys would much rather you be that mate for that split second

and know about it. 100%. Then be

Exactly right. And then that's when everyone starts blaming themselves and this and that.

Because you feel that, you know,

like it's, oh, fuck, I could have done this, could have done that. But it just comes down to

one simple thing is just letting someone know. And 100%, I'm like that.

Like, my family kind of knew. They knew, and the people around us seeing it. But

vice versa, I mean, I'm always open to anyone when it comes to that

kind of thing, anyone, anytime, because I know how much, how legit

Yeah. Pulling strands from others, man. It's, it's so hard.

Like we're all blokes. We've all been through it ourselves. There's like this weird

power we put on ourselves where we're like, look, if I can just get

through this, I don't have to ask for help. It's like, great, but there's

no negative ramifications of asking for that help.

And every time like I've done it. There's someone

Like it's, it's not a big deal. You'd be surprised how many people are

there and willing, but all they, they just need to know. And that's it. It's just something

so simple, but yeah, you just got to put, it's

just ego, man. Ego is a massive thing in today's society. Put that

aside and just, you know, if you need a hand, Aussies, we'll

Mr. IVF belt going, you don't need fucking ego. That's

the sickest thing. You're the man who should have an ego. Nah, I'm always

This can be all taken away quicker than I work for it. It's just

not who I am. I wasn't brought up like that. No one else fucking needs ego than

That's unreal. Yeah. You're a very humble champ, but

you still have this like burning belief in yourself. So

It's just how you carry yourself. You know, I'm very confident in my ability and

There's a difference between ego and arrogance. Exactly right. I don't think ego

is that bad, but when it's portrayed as arrogance, it's like

that guy's a bit of a cockhead. For sure. So I think if you can carry yourself well

with an ego of self-belief, like it's... Just how

I've got to tell myself I'm the best. I did from right from when I started. You

But... How big is manifesting shit to you? Huge. Huge?

Yeah. Like do you, is that something that, obviously you've said

that this was going to be your, this was going to be your goal to

do it. So you're, you're telling yourself this. Oh, for sure. For years.

Just I want more. I never get comfortable. I dreamt about this. It's

an unbelievable feeling, but there's more to be achieved. I just

want to keep testing myself. In life, testing

yourself is the best thing, and man, I keep passing these tests. It's

waking me up. Yes, I knew I could do it, but it's just reassuring. It's

like, wow, you actually doing it.

Maybe you're Superman. Who knows? Keep

testing me until I fail or something close.

But until then, I believe I'm not human. Is

that a scoop? You're not human? Shit, heard it

I'm taking it back to sort

of when you said, you know, you with your mate and

you had these big goals. Like I've been there with mates, especially when

I was 18, 19. And like we were saying, we were going to do all

this shit and you want it, but like, maybe

you don't actually believe it could really happen. Do

you think you really believed it or they were just big goals that you

Look, you always aim for there, you know. You've got

to dream massive and we were dreaming full of top and I think

that helps a lot. Yeah, you're not limited to

where you can keep leveling up. You know what I mean? Like they say, reach, what is

it? Reach the stars or land on the moon, whatever it is. Aim for the stars, land on

the moon. Shit like that, you man, just dream as big as you possibly

can. And I think there's no limitation to how much you can

Exactly. Yeah, well, and then what's next? You know, I'm here now,

but that's just my mentality and that's the person I am. I just, I want more

and more and more. Keep giving me the big test, keep being, you know, I just love proving people

What do you reckon he'd be thinking? Matias? I don't

Oh, RG? RG, yeah. Man, he'd be proud.

I know he'd be proud. Very proud. It'd be good to be able to share

this. He'd be killing it in rugby league at the moment now, too. We

don't know how life would be. And then at the same time, who knows? We could have went

on different paths. But I know he'd be proud. 100% he'd be

Man, I love that. The fact that you were a kid

A hundred percent. You got to, you got to, um, yeah, dream it.

And then I was confident enough to speak it. And yeah. So saying

Do you reckon it's because you voiced it,

I reckon, yeah. Like if you think about it enough,

like, you know what I mean? Like you start living it before it's happened and thinking about

it. The world has to just go into that. Like that's the way your mind's going. The shit has

to change around for you to go with what's going on.

You got your like manifesting, you're speaking it out, you obviously got

your faith, you got your tenacity of pushing through. Is there

anything else that you have like as a core pillar

in your life that you think kind of contributes to

your ability to keep persevering and actually get

He does that to me too, he'll just say shit and then it makes you think about it and I'm

I don't know. I think it's just the self-belief and the competitiveness, you

know, like, I don't know. Yeah. I really don't know. That's a

It's just, you're such like a mentally strong person. Like

we sit here and talk with people and obviously talk with people in the real

world. And like, you can tell there's like something different about

Yeah. I think just being exposed a lot young and a lot

of the bad things, or not even bad things, just a lot's happened. Had to grow up

pretty young and yeah, I think it's just being like that. And like

I said, I've always said my mind's, my mental strength's strong, like my

mindset's on the job. I think, yeah,

I don't know. I don't know what brings it. It's just the way I think I was brought up and

So if there was any, um, it's obviously like my little

fellow was running around here just before and is a bit of a big fan of yours. If

there was anything that you could sort of tell kids,

maybe just say, you know, between that eight and 13 year old

that you wish that you had have been told. to

maybe sort of, I don't know, give them some motivation or like

just some, some little bit of advice or something like that. Cause

obviously you, you were probably told some pretty cool shit

when you were younger. That mindset that you've got doesn't just

You just believe in it. You just got to believe in it. You don't have so many people

that tell you you can't do it, you know, like. Man,

I don't know, like the more the age of the 16 to 18, kind

of when- That's where the importance of it is. Exactly. That's when

it's really hard. People start going out, they're partying. You

just got to have a strong mindset and just think about what you want in the long run.

I know it's hard. It's easier to say now, but at the time

people will be telling you this and that. It's not one thing I

got told by a good mate fair few years ago, and this has stuck with me.

I think it's not thinking as sacrificing time, but investing

time into yourself. Instead of thinking you're missing out on that thing,

you're adding it in the long run. So

instead of sacrifice, you're investing. And that switched a big thing for

me. When I heard that, I was like, wow. Sometimes I'm thinking, oh, I'm

missing out on this. Can't go party, or this is on, can't

go to birthday dinner. I'm like, well, hang on. I'm not missing out. This

is a step closer for what I want

in the long run. I'm investing in myself and in time in my career instead

of missing out. Return on investment is coming pretty big now.

Taking the big bag at the end. It's delayed gratification. We

talk about it all the time. It's like, if you keep taking it in the

now, you don't get that big payoff later. And that can be said for

For sure. Yeah. Cause that's definitely like that. What you've just said, that's obviously not

Like everything. Exactly. Anything, anything. Just, if

you know it's for a good thing, just don't think you're missing out. You know, you're investing,

you're adding it, you know? So yeah, I think that's the biggest, biggest

thing I can think, I can say is don't think of it as sacrificing, be

With um, before, so you mentioned step one before being like a pretty big, big

supporter of yours. Now the position that you're in now, it's

Like who the fuck is this pyro guy? And everyone's going to be knocking

on your door. You've obviously had some, some pretty

loyal ones there at the beginning and everyone sort of sees boxes

and they're like, Oh fuck boxes are killing it. Boxes don't. make

that much coin, probably in that beginning to

There's a 3% that make a good living. There's no

in-between in boxing. It's not like football, you get contracted, you're

making peanuts or heaps. There's no in-between. When

I was starting, I was labouring, working a full-time job, boxing,

and then you get these sponsors that jump on and contribute a little bit,

which For Australian boxing to start your career, like a

shout out to every sponsor out there supporting an athlete like that. You

don't understand how much that helps us. And without

them, we wouldn't be able to do what we do now. So they contribute bits to

kind of make up a weekly wage so you can focus on training flat

out. So without them at the start, man, it'd be hard to make that

How much easier it once you get those sponsors on board, so you can just focus on

training and that, because obviously if you're working full time and

100% like I was waking up 4 a.m. Running go laboring all

day in the Sun then training you just notice the difference man like yeah,

you're fresh for every session and Yeah, like I said before shout

out to everyone that's supporting an athlete man. It's it's crucial. It's

you need it I mean at the top now. Yes, you're making real good

money, but it's that that without

them I wouldn't be where I am, you know what I mean? So I'll be forever grateful for

the sponsors and I stick with my sponsors, you know what I mean? Like people,

they believed in me at an early age, early stage, so I'm gonna stick with them. That's

What do you reckon the short-term futures looking like you for

Walls, we've had little little talks with my train. I

Don't know what I can say or too much, but we're looking at bringing a fight

here to Australia November December

so I don't know really opponents yet or anything like that, but hopefully a

big name that we can Cash-out on and give

a flogging to over here for the Aussie crowd But definitely want

to defend the belt as soon as I can but it's looking November December ways

You're gonna be an active champ. I'm like all these others that just wait until it's

time when they start I love fighting, you know, like I said fighters fight,

so I'm the happiest when I'm training and fighting So I'm just

I want to keep busy suckers. I keep smashing them,

Have you got like a long-term goal? So where do you see

yourself? So you're 28 now. Yep. Just say

when you were like 40, 45. Do you see yourself settling

Yeah, I definitely want to. Settle

down. I don't know where yet. I think I want to open a gym up in Mackay.

I'm a proud Mackay boy. There's a

lot of talent up there, not just in footy, now in boxing. I

think I want to open a gym up there and give back to my community up there because it gave me so

much growing up. Just settle

down and by then, hopefully, a wall full of belts and

relaxing a little bit. Yeah, just kicking

back. Yeah, I'm a very simple person, you know. I'm just keen to kick back and

Yeah, just enjoy the... When it's all said and done, but for

Yeah, I just want to fight, you know, I love fighting and that's... Look at

my coach here, Alfie, he doesn't even have to ask me for an opponent, he'll

say yes to anyone. Like I said before, I'm not scared of neither man, I'll

fight anyone, I'll have a crack with anyone and test my

ability and yeah. I'm just keen

to make the biggest fights possible and I want the belt as quick as I can,

It's so good to see an Aussie doing just sick shit abroad

because there's... There's been some pretty rough luck in the boxing world

with Australians overseas at the moment. And it

seems as though like a lot of the media just focused on those names.

You didn't get. Yeah. Like this big

fanfare of like what you did was fucking amazing. Yeah,

And there's, we're seeing things like it's going down in history with like

the life of Lionel Rose, Tony Mundine. It's,

um, it's mad. It's pretty surreal to be in amongst that

and that kind of talk already. But, um, it's

always been like that for us, you know, like Yeah, we're

just always kind of flying under radar. I haven't got that mainstream media, but I

knew it was going to come. But at the same time, I couldn't give a shit. I

just start fighting. I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm setting my family up. I'm

making a better life. And that was my goal anyway. So people

jump on. I appreciate it a lot. But at the same time, I'm doing

my thing. It's not going to slow me down. I'm not

going to lose sleep over it. I'm still cashing checks. I'm still winning

You're shining a light on yourself and we're going to see, I

think you can't fathom how crazy it's going to get

It's already flat out. Yeah. But, um, a few

It's I think that that's what makes it like, we're so

appreciative of you. You literally just fucking landed and

you're making time for the boys that, you know, to

tell your story and whatnot, which is fucking gnarly because

you have probably been blindsided by everyone since

It's been flat out, but yeah, seeing at the airport and thanks for coming there and that

means a lot. And a hundred percent, man, I love the channel. So no brainer

So many boys like are going to really tune in and all

that stuff you spoke about, the importance of speaking out, man. Yeah, for sure.

Cause it's who it comes from, you know, a lot of the time. It's all well

and good for, you know, some person that's not

relatable. saying that or like someone that they don't

see themselves in. But when it comes from someone that they're

like, fuck, he's tougher than me. He's, he's this, he's

this. He's not the guy I thought would say that. It hits

Yeah. So yeah. Thank you very much. Anytime. And like I said, yeah, anyone

ever needs to talk, reach out or message away. I'll give time to anyone for that.

Um, on Instagram, Liam Pyro Boxing. Um,

How about we put all the links in the description of this video. That works.

That works a lot easier. Cool. And on that note, we'll probably

Beautiful. No, thanks for having me in here. Shout out to everyone for the support. It's

Cool. So all his links are down below. Thanks for watching another episode