1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,500 In this episode, I am gonna be talking about imposter syndrome. 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 We all get it. And it doesn't matter how long you have been in web design 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,500 or web development. 4 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,000 At some point, imposter syndrome 5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,500 will have come knocking on your door. 6 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,500 I am here to help you stop that practice here and now. 7 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,500 So let's get started. 8 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,500 Hello and welcome to another episode of Websites Made Simple 9 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:53,000 with me, Holly Christie. I'm a website designer, 10 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,500 a website designers' mentor. I have two website design agencies, 11 00:00:57,500 --> 00:01:02,000 and I'm the winner of three web design awards as well. 12 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,500 And you would think with me doing all of that, and having been in business for so long, 13 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:09,500 I wouldn't get imposter syndrome. 14 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:13,500 Well, I'm here to tell you, I really, really do, 15 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:18,000 and it can just be around some of the most everyday things. 16 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,000 It could be that I hesitate before I send a contract to a client, 17 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:28,000 or I find myself tripping over my words when I'm trying to explain something 18 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:37,000 to a potential client, an existing client, or another web designer. 19 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,500 I have my Sparks Group Mentoring programme, and if you haven't heard about this yet, 20 00:01:42,500 --> 00:01:46,500 you can find it on my website, websitesmadesimple.co.uk, 21 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:50,000 and you'll see Sparks Group Mentoring there. 22 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,500 You can see the total capacity on LinkedIn. 23 00:01:53,500 --> 00:01:57,500 The main thing to know about it is that it's a weekly Zoom call 24 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:01,500 for website developers and designers, SEO specialists and copywriters. 25 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,000 If you work in the website design space, you are welcome. 26 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,000 It's like a mastermind session that we run each week. 27 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,000 It's got amazing community in there. It's had really good feedback. 28 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:20,000 And I tell you, every week in the beginning, the imposter syndrome was biting hard. 29 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,000 I had to push through it and push through it, and I was getting all this great feedback, 30 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,000 and I was like, "Who am I to be mentoring these people 31 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,500 who also work in my industry?" 32 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:40,500 And my job was to push through so that I could create this really good 33 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:44,500 community for website designers and developers. 34 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:48,000 And I am so glad that I did that, because the group is amazing. 35 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,500 Even though it's not a networking group, loads of people are working together. 36 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:56,500 They're really enjoying having each other in their corner. 37 00:02:56,500 --> 00:03:00,500 And it's just a great space where we come and we bring whatever we're working on, 38 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:04,000 whatever issues we might have. 39 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,500 But we also have a topic each week, which can be anything — 40 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:11,500 from how to get over imposter syndrome to what pricing we are charging, 41 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:15,500 what software we are using, or what should be in our contracts — 42 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:20,000 whatever we decide as a group our topic's gonna be. 43 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,500 And imposter syndrome is something that comes up so often and so heavily, 44 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:28,500 I would say, for people working in the web design space, 45 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:32,500 because most website designers aren't officially qualified 46 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:36,500 in how to design websites. 47 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:40,500 And that means they're usually all doing it slightly differently, 48 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:44,500 and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, 49 00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:48,500 as long as we are all getting the same results at the end — 50 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:52,500 effective websites that are bringing in leads, making sales, 51 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:57,000 are search engine friendly, and have fast loading times. 52 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,500 And they're doing a service to our clients who are booking us for them. 53 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:05,500 And that means it doesn't matter what software you're using. 54 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:09,500 And that's one of the things with my Sparks Group — 55 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:13,000 we have no tech shaming whatsoever. 56 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Some people will be using WordPress, some people will be on Wix 57 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,500 or Webflow or Squarespace, or whatever it is. 58 00:04:20,500 --> 00:04:24,500 We are not here to tech shame around it. We're looking to get the end results. 59 00:04:24,500 --> 00:04:28,500 And I think one of the things I often see, particularly on LinkedIn, 60 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:32,500 is that people will say, "Oh, WordPress is dead. 61 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:37,000 You shouldn't use it because it has security vulnerabilities," 62 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,500 or it has this, that, or the other. 63 00:04:40,500 --> 00:04:44,500 And so many times, people — in justifying their own choices — 64 00:04:44,500 --> 00:04:48,500 are chipping away at the confidence of others. 65 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:52,500 They're chipping away at the experience of others, and people will see it and think, 66 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:56,500 "Oh, I use WordPress — are people gonna think my websites aren't good?" 67 00:04:56,500 --> 00:05:00,500 And it's not about that. 68 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:04,500 And I hate when people chip away at each other's confidence 69 00:05:04,500 --> 00:05:08,500 in a bid to make themselves feel better, or maybe narrow the competition. 70 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:12,500 And that's just ridiculous, because web design is such a huge market. 71 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:16,500 And like I always say to people, there is a seat at the table for everyone. 72 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:20,500 Everyone's gonna do something slightly differently. 73 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:24,500 If you give two designers the same brief, you will end up with two very different websites. 74 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:29,000 And I always think that is the absolute beauty of web design. 75 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,000 I'm not here to tell you that you need to do it one way or the other way. 76 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,500 I'm here to celebrate the way that you're already doing it, 77 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:43,500 to help you tighten up your practice in areas where it might need tightening. 78 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:48,500 And that could just be things that you haven't necessarily thought about. 79 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:52,500 For example, I've got an episode on 404 pages and links pages, 80 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:57,500 why they should be customised, and how to include those in the price of the build. 81 00:05:57,500 --> 00:06:02,500 It could be that you're not sure what should be in your website design contracts 82 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:07,500 or your onboarding pack — in which case I have resources on my website 83 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:13,000 that will help you with that. They're both on my website. 84 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,500 Or perhaps you've worked with a client or another designer or developer 85 00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:22,500 who has really knocked your confidence. I've been there. 86 00:06:22,500 --> 00:06:27,500 And I've created podcast episodes to really support you with that. 87 00:06:27,500 --> 00:06:32,000 If you go back — probably quite far back into the episodes, 88 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,000 like the twenties and thirties episodes — you will see there are episodes 89 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:43,000 around how to work with tricky clients and how to get a website project back on track. 90 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:48,500 I also have a free resource on my website: How to Turn Negative Feedback 91 00:06:48,500 --> 00:06:52,500 into a Winning Website. 92 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:57,500 It's a workbook for when you've created a website draft, presented it to the client, 93 00:06:57,500 --> 00:07:02,500 and the client's come back and said, "Yeah, I don't think so. 94 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:06,500 This isn't what we were hoping for," or whatever else. 95 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:11,000 It's a step-by-step workbook to help you get the website project back on track. 96 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,500 It's got steps on how to approach the client, how to approach the design, 97 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:20,500 how to look at it objectively, 98 00:07:20,500 --> 00:07:24,500 but also how to really turn it around so you end up having 99 00:07:24,500 --> 00:07:28,500 a really good experience with the client. 100 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:32,500 The client ends up loving their website, and they go on to recommend you 101 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:35,500 to other people as well. 102 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:40,000 So one of the things I would say with imposter syndrome 103 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,000 is to stay in your lane. Don't worry about what other people are doing. 104 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Focus on what you are doing. Look forward into what you want 105 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,500 your web design business to look like in the next few months, 106 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:57,500 in the next year, and beyond. 107 00:07:57,500 --> 00:08:01,500 And bear in mind that the longer we work in our industry, 108 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:05,500 the more we level up within our industry. 109 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:10,500 And so every now and then, take stock — what do you need to level up in 110 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:14,500 to be able to say, "I'm not gonna feel like an imposter when I go out 111 00:08:14,500 --> 00:08:19,000 to quote for websites, or do my work, or whatever it is?" 112 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,500 For some people, that could be around contracts and onboarding packs — 113 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:28,500 their processes might be a little bit messy. 114 00:08:28,500 --> 00:08:32,000 You know, we all hear that story from clients: 115 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 "My previous web developer disappeared," or "My designer disappeared," 116 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,000 and it's probably just that the designer had a really bad process. 117 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,000 They just weren't very good at staying on top of emails 118 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,000 and then just didn't know how to pull it all back. 119 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,500 I've heard that a lot. I've worked one-to-one with designers and developers 120 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:56,500 in a mentoring capacity, where we've looked at whether we have a ClickUp or a Trello board 121 00:08:56,500 --> 00:09:01,000 that we share with the clients, where project details can be input. 122 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Do we use other software? There are things like Moxie and Airtable 123 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,000 and stuff like that as well. 124 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,000 So there are lots of different ways we can work to pull that process tighter, 125 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,500 if that's the part that you're worried about. 126 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:20,000 If you think, "Actually, I've got all the processes nailed, 127 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,000 but I just feel like my designs are becoming a bit samey, 128 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,000 and I feel like I am a little bit of a one-trick pony," 129 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,000 then that's something really useful to know about yourself, 130 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,000 because there are so many different places that you can go and study design. 131 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,000 You can look at free courses, YouTube courses, 132 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,000 but you can also just have a look at the work of other designers, 133 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:50,000 screenshot stuff you really like and think, "I'd like to play around creating something 134 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,000 that looks a bit like that." 135 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,000 And I always recommend, when I'm working with designers — I have my Phoenix Programme, 136 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,000 which is a nine-month programme where I mentor website designers 137 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,000 to the next stage of their business. 138 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,000 And I'll always recommend that they spend some time just designing. 139 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,000 And I'll say, "Just design it as a template. If you want to add it to a template shop later, 140 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,000 you can. And if you don't, you don't have to." 141 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,000 But we'll always look at working on areas that are slightly outside 142 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,000 of their comfort zone. 143 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,000 If someone's very used to big, bold, blocky designs, 144 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,500 I might task them with looking at websites for interior design shops, 145 00:10:34,500 --> 00:10:39,000 that use very neutral colour palettes, with swishes and swirls and things like that. 146 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,000 If someone's using very pastel things all the way through, 147 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,000 we might look at having really bold designs, or adding in dynamic elements. 148 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,500 When you work in a self-taught industry, it really is your responsibility 149 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:54,500 to keep pushing yourself outside your comfort zone, 150 00:10:54,500 --> 00:10:58,500 making sure that you are learning as much as you can learn, 151 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:02,500 and that you are really executing it well as well. 152 00:11:02,500 --> 00:11:06,500 Because when we have imposter syndrome, we can often think, 153 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:10,500 "Oh gosh, who am I?" 154 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:14,500 "I'm not up to it. I'm not as good as this or that." 155 00:11:14,500 --> 00:11:19,000 But actually, it could just be that having a bit more practice at something 156 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,000 and a little bit more confidence is what you need, 157 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,500 because imposter syndrome is something that only affects you. 158 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:32,000 And in most cases, people aren't out there thinking, 159 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,000 "Who does that web designer think they are, creating this website?" 160 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,000 They might think, "I don't like it. It's not my style." 161 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,000 But we're our own harshest critics. 162 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,000 And I'm here to tell you that we need to stop that, 163 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,000 because there's enough out there that can make us feel like, 164 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,000 "Oh gosh, I haven't got this today." 165 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Whether that's to do with our home life or whatever else — 166 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,000 yeah, we've got enough challenges out there. 167 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,000 How we feel about our work and how we show up in our work 168 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,000 shouldn't be one of those things. 169 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,500 So take it from me — you're doing really well, 170 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:22,500 and you're probably doing much better than you think. You really are. 171 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:26,000 And take a deep breath. 172 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,500 If you'd like some mentoring support around this as well, 173 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:35,000 feel free to get in touch with me. You can reach me through my website, 174 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,500 websitesmadesimple.co.uk, or you can email me at 175 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:44,000 hello@websitesmadesimple.co.uk. 176 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Or you can find me on LinkedIn at Holly C Christie. 177 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,000 I would love to hear from you. 178 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,000 Trust me — web design is all about collaboration, not competition. 179 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,500 So do get in touch. Love to hear from you. 180 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:01,000 And until then, happy designing.