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For our week 17 Sunday DFS episode, we're gonna review week 16 Sunday DFS and then jump into the games for the Sunday slate this week and build some lineups.

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Let's chat last week's last week's DraftKings contest.

Yeah, last week went crazy.

You can see all of the fire here for the winner that they got with Caleb Williams in that Detroit Chicago game.

Even though Chicago only put up 17 points, he got to 26.

You probably, you could have probably had Bryce Young in there too because he got to 27 points, but you can just see the list of the ones that were on fire with Jonathan Taylor at 42 points as well.

Any surprises here for you?

Honestly, I'm just surprised about how much this person was able to fit in.

They went very cheap with the Diami Brown, which we saw Zacchaeus have a great game and be a very cheap pun option, but look like this person really just needed every savings they could get with getting Gibbs, Connor and Taylor and Justin Jefferson slotted into and Keenan Allen.

So yeah, he just went a crazy amount of star power really.

And then Taylor had a great bounce back game and Justin Jefferson has been dominant recently and then Caleb Williams did enough in that second half so you put him down 17 points, he's going to score some fantasy points.

This is true.

Anything that you want to note?

Big overview of all of the games before we jump in.

I know we're going to be talking motivation and how people winning in other games is going to impact how other games are played if people even try.

We are deep enough in the season now where everyone has their minds looking towards playoffs.

So we'll touch bases on what are these teams playing for?

Are they playing for their jobs?

Are they playing for playoff hopes?

What do they actually want to showcase to try to lead us to better plays this week?

I think this is particularly important in the AFC where we've had a lot of things already settled.

We know that Kansas City is the top seed and that teams aren't playing for a lot other than receding.

We have a couple teams trying to fight into it, but in the NFC on the opposite side, nothing's been set.

They're still battling it out for that top spot so the NFC is a little bit more up in the air than the afc and we'll identify that on some of these games.

The other thing that to point out is all of the outside games have at least a 40% chance of rain.

There are two dome games, the Raiders at New Orleans and Green Bay at the Vikings.

But everything else outside it looks like it's going to rain.

And I, I know we go through this in over under order.

So one of the things that I pulled was in 51% of the games this year overall they've hit the over pretty much what we would expect out of Vegas to be a 50, 50.

When it rains, they only hit the over 41% of the time.

It's a pretty significant difference.

So we will be cautious in some of these rain games, especially when they have the higher over unders.

Let's jump into the first one where Carolina is heading to Tampa Bay.

And Tampa Bay is favored by seven and a half over under is 49 and a half.

This is an outdoor game, so it falls into that rain chance.

Carolina's been looking very different the last couple of weeks.

What do y'all like here?

They're finally putting it together and we don't really have to worry about their motivation.

They've been eliminated from the playoffs for a while and they keep fighting because they want to showcase that they're the pieces moving forward with this team to build around.

Bryce Young has been looking really good and when we saw these teams play a couple of weeks ago, they gave a show, went into overtime and Bryce Young had one of his better games.

I also want to bring up a key aspect for this is incentives and contract incentives.

So Mike Evans is known for his thousand yard streak.

The last time he didn't get a thousand yards he was in high school and it was his first year ever playing football.

So my money is he's going to do it again.

He needs 180 yards in these next two games to get that done.

And he also has money in his contract if he has a thousand yards for a bonus.

I think the team loves him.

I think Tampa Bay loves him and wants to do everything they can to get him that.

So I expect him to see double digit targets to try to get him in that spot.

And at seven and a half thousand, I think he's one of the better price wide receivers.

Yeah, I agree with you there.

I do like Mike Evans in this game.

The one thing I think is really interesting from the Panthers side is their coach Dave Canales is returning to Tampa Bay where last year he was coaching there and then he took the head coaching job at at Carolina.

I do wonder if he has a little bit more insights to how Baker and the Bucks work and some of the plays that they like to run or that maybe bake packers not particularly good at running.

I I am curious with Bucky being a little bit more healthy now how if they'll kind of shift more to a run heavy approach.

Bucky's look great and you can run all over this Carolina defense, so I really like him in this spot.

I think he's still just too cheap for how explosive he is against a bad defense at home.

I'm really having some tough time kind of picking between the background options in this game though.

So McMillan and Coker are all in my options that I'm keeping in mind but really haven't nailed down one that I truly like for a secondary option.

I lean Coker just because he does have some explosive plays.

But Thielen's kind of that more reliable.

Definitely.

Yeah.

It just depends on which part you're looking for there and at their salary.

Then you may just want somebody that's reliable that can get your 12 points and move on to your more explosive parts that you're paying for on on the team.

I don't like Chuba Hubbard in this matchup.

He only had 43 yards on 12 carries in Week 13 when they played and Tampa Bay is weaker against the pass.

They have the ability to stop that running game and then if you're playing from behind, you're going to abandon that run game as well.

So Hubbard is not my favorite to go to this week.

I completely agree.

And also with young just at a 5600 price tag, it makes a lot of builds work pretty neat and he's been rushing a lot more.

So he had his highest rushing of any game in his career last week and he also had a rushing touchdown.

He's starting to feel just more comfortable in that offense and knowing when he's safe to scramble and get those extra yards.

So y'all would consider a young Thielen or maybe a young Coker stack of some sort?

Yeah, this is a the strategy with picking Young is that you say him and Baker are about equal and he's the cheaper option.

He's the cheapest quarterback pretty much on the slate that I care to go to.

Yeah.

Well, let's move on to the next game.

Green Bay at Minnesota where Minnesota's favored by one and a half over under is 48.5.

I think both the quarterbacks in this game are probably way more expensive than young.

They definitely are.

Yeah.

So the first.

Yeah, the first time that they met Love passed for 389 yards.

But that was week four.

A lot of things have changed since week four.

Yeah, they were chucking it in that game.

They had four combined interceptions.

I think they had seven combined passing touchdowns.

Um, it was an exciting one and I am very happy that this game isn't a dome and we're not seeing another Green Bay game in in December.

I like all the parts of this game.

I think it just comes down to who can you afford.

I'm not super crazy about ever going to a Green Bay wide receiver, but some of them are a little bit interesting in this one.

I think the one thing gives me a lot more confidence for the Green Bay wide receivers in this matchup is how stout the Minnesota defenses for rushing.

I Jacobs has been amazing the past few weeks, but I think that'll correct this week against a really good rushing defense and they'll spread it more to Jaden Reed, even for options.

Watson's been a little banged up, so we might see a little bit more play for Don Tavian Wicks.

Yeah, I think that Watson may end up not playing, but we'll have to watch the injury reports if he's out and we at least get it down to 3 instead of 4.

I like taking a chance a little bit more.

Yeah.

And then you just have the best home wide receiver ever.

And Justin Jefferson at 8.3 projects great for the spot.

Definitely Addison does as well.

Do you think a Darnold Jefferson stack would be worth the price there or looking around at other things here?

I mean, we saw that a couple weeks ago when it was that week where Josh Allen stole his thunder after having a 50 point game.

But we saw multi touchdown games to both Addison and Jefferson, so I think it's always in play.

I like more of the Green Bay side and just getting Jefferson and saying it's more focused on the Minnesota side.

That's how I've been building it.

Let's move on to the jets at Buffalo where Buffalo is favored by 10 and a half over under is 46.

This is an outdoor game in Buffalo in December and there's a chance of rain.

There's more than a chance of rain.

It's not snow.

Everything's warm on the east coast this weekend, which is kind of the good news for the rain situation.

I don't.

I think this is our coldest one and there's a 91% chance of rain and 14 mile an hour wind.

So this is definitely our worst of the weather games.

And does anyone have anything to be playing for here?

No, I kind of hate that game.

Hate this game for that reason because with Kansas City winning on Christmas, Buffalo is locked at that number two seed.

They can't do anything to change that.

And the Ravens can't catch them or no other team in the NFC can or AFC can catch Buffalo.

So they're just locked at the number two seed.

Their only motivation is maybe they want to get Josh Allen the MVP and showcase him.

But does he not already have it?

I don't know.

Between him and Jackson, Jackson's been making a run recently.

He has.

Would they pull Allen early?

Because Alan's been pretty banged up and could use probably a little bit of lighter if I'm, I would give him a break.

I'm not doing any designed runs for him and I'm kind of mentioning in his ear it's like, hey, just throw it away if it's not there, like.

Yeah, then I'm pulling up at halftime probably.

I, I, you don't need to win this game next week.

You'll maybe get a better weather game when you have to go play in New England.

You don't have difficult matchups either week.

You can take your practice and take and just stay healthy or get healthy.

Yeah, I think there's only real interest on the jets side.

You know, running backs against Buffalo have been a success all year, especially if Buffalo doesn't really care to stop them.

And Buffalo is giving up the fifth most passing touchdowns per game.

And we know Aaron Rodgers wants to prove he's still great.

Maybe there's a little interested in Aaron Rodgers or Devonte Adams, but Devonte Adams at 7100.

It's a little rough for a game in a rain, I think.

Yeah, I think this is going to be a gross game.

I think we're going to see some backup running back play from the the Bills and even see a little bit more Ray Davis and they've even had like a third running back kind of entering the mix every now and then.

I think this is going to be run out the clock, hopefully give a show to the home crowd and get, get the win in a closer game than the ten and a half point spread that Vegas initially set it at.

Well, let's continue on then to Dallas at Philadelphia where Philadelphia is favored by nine and a half over under is 41 and a half.

What is there motivation here again?

It's raining.

There is motivation for that defense to show up after they gave that game away to Washington last week and Philly still hasn't locked up their division.

If they lose out and Washington wins out, then they could lose the division.

So they want to lock it up this week, especially against the division rivals.

But Dallas is already benching CD Lamb for the season.

So you're telling me that because the Philadelphia defense didn't stop Washington last weekend they could lose and the division this weekend if Washington wins again this weekend?

Yeah, they would need 2, 2 more losses in a row and Washington to still have two more wins.

But I think they'll kind of just kill Dallas.

At least I think they will too.

Rush, throw into Brandon Cooks and that's a really talented defense.

I don't I worry what's that Eagles offense going to have to do to pay off their high end prices for AJ Brown and Saquon most of the year?

I feel like we just saw the Eagles defense shut down games and they didn't score a whole lot and neither did their opponent and they're just happy grinding it out and winning that really close game because they know they're in control and they don't have to score.

And I think that this definitely could be another one of those.

Yeah, I think it's going to be similar to with Barkley's outlook at 8.6 thousand.

Kind of what we saw from Derrick Henry in the Ravens win is that Derek Henry looked great in that first half.

He was dominant and then why are you going to make him run up the middle more if you don't need to if that defense is taking over.

I like Barkley.

I think he could end up with 100 yard, a hundred plus yard game and score.

But I just don't see him having that true ceiling outcome to help you win tournaments.

And that's with Jalen hurts maybe not playing with that concussion last week.

So we'd have Kenny Pickett in instead.

If he can't play the backups.

Yep, Kenny Pickett's hurt too, so we'll see who ends up playing there.

Let's move on to the Colts at the Giants where the Colts are favored by 8 over under is 40.5.

What's going on.

This is one of those games too that will be definitely keeping the back of your mind of what happened Saturday and maybe revisit your lineups on Sunday morning because there are these group of AFC teams.

First the Colts and also we'll talk about Miami later on that they need a Denver loss to still have a playoff shot.

So if Denver goes into Cincinnati and beats them on Saturday, that really might affect the motivation levels.

But I don't really think it's as important for the Colts because Miami's a little bit more stable for their jobs.

The Colts are all playing for next year and to kind of be critical pieces moving forward.

Yeah, no one's got a job I feel like on the Colts team right now going forward.

Other than Jonathan Taylor who held onto.

The ball last week.

He had a great game.

He had a great bounce up, bounce back game and this is if the Colts need this win.

I think they could go back to them and heavily lean on them against a Giants team that's kind of given up at home.

Yeah, they have.

So one of the interesting things in this game is Anthony Richardson, who I'm not usually a fan of Anthony Richardson, but I feel like on the slate with all the rain and other situations that I could have played Anthony Richardson and not stacked him, just played him alone.

The problem is he popped up on the injury report on Thursday for a second straight day.

He is listed as did not practice with a back and or a foot injury and I didn't realize it was that significant.

So this whole situation changes a lot if we get Joe Flacco.

My lean is that I think he's going to play in this game especially.

He mentioned some soreness after the Titans game, but he didn't come out for any snaps in that game.

So I think he's going to be there.

I think he's actually a great play.

Like he's still too cheap for just his running workload.

He almost had 100 yard rushing game and a touchdown himself.

If you think of him solely as a running back, that's at 5,900 who could get you 80 yards and a touchdown and then he can pass the ball and get those passing yards on top of it and hopefully one passing touchdown to just build on that running baseline.

It's just cheating and you don't have to stack them.

You can just get those 20 to 25 points.

What about Jonathan Taylor?

7900.

Can he do 42 points again?

I think he can, but he hasn't been showing up in a lot of my lineups.

I think that it was exceptional last week's performance, but we haven't seen those breakaway runs too often and I think maybe the Colts offensive line is starting to figure it out.

Like he was untouched on that second breakaway run so maybe that blocking is just going to get better for the last couple weeks but I would lean that he has a great day but not that true203 we saw last week.

And then there's Tyrone Tracy, the running back for the Giants.

Colts gave up two touchdowns to Tajie Spears last week when they almost let the Titans come back in that game.

Yeah, I actually like Trazy.

He's going to be heavily involved and we know that these rookies are still motivated.

They have not shown it yet and this is a bad Giants team that is going to go back to the drawing board in the draft season.

Being able to stand out here for Tracy is important and 55.8 is not a bad price against a bad Colts defense.

Well, we got three games left all of which have at least one 3 and 12 team.

Let's chat Tennessee at Jacksonville where both of them are 3 and 12.

Tennessee is favored by 1 and the over under is 39.5.

Yeah the last time these two teams played in week 14 it was Jacksonville 10 winning 10 to 6.

Yeah that was a gross game.

I honestly think it's going to help that we're not seeing Will Levis in this game like we saw last time in this matchup.

Mason Rudolph at least was able to kind of stabilize.

He threw three interceptions himself last last game but at least the offense was a little bit more stable and moving the ball.

I think there's a lot of people playing for their jobs here and especially with two backup quarterbacks that want to showcase that they can still do that and be reliable options to get future contracts for Mac Jones and Mason Rudolph.

I like the number one options that those backup backups are just going to hyper target the people they need to for Ridley and Brian Thomas Jr.

Just get it in the hands of your playmakers and make help make you look good.

Yeah I think that's all that I could support from this game is Brian Thomas Jr.

Or maybe Calvin Ridley.

Other than that I don't really want any parts of it.

No Tony Pollard.

No Tony Pollard.

So I think I'm leaning away from him.

Bigsby is kind of interesting.

He got almost all the work last week and this was this Tennessee Titans defense was just decimated on the ground.

But just a note on Brian Thomas Jr.

And how good he's been is he has not had a game below 75 yards or 16 and a half DraftKings points since that bye week and back to back 30 point weeks.

He is getting that workload supported by Mac Jones and I I think he's a great play at 6 8k.

Yeah, I agree.

He is.

I can't wait to see him with a real quarterback.

Yeah, he should be fun.

Let's chat the Raiders at New Orleans, where the Raiders are favored by 1 1/2 over under is 37.5.

Are y'all grabbing anyone from this game?

Nah.

Bowers.

That's like it.

Yeah.

In case of emergency, break glass and get Brock.

Bowers probably lead tight ends of the slate for targets.

And he does have a shot to not just break the.

Not break a rookie record, but break the NFL record for receptions by a tight end in a season, which is.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Andy's a Rookie.

He is 16 behind that record and he had 11 catches last week.

So if he can keep that up, he's on pace to beat it.

And I think this is a good spot to just showcase him.

But besides that, I don't think New Orleans is going to put up any fight.

We saw how inept they looked last week.

They just don't have anyone left.

Let's talk about our last game, Miami at Cleveland, where Miami is favored by six and a half over under is 40.

This is also an outdoor game again in Cleveland.

Are they.

Is Cleveland going to put Winston back in?

I know we were kind of just talking about how Winston's more fun to watch in DTR through interceptions.

No, they're not going to give us Winston back.

No.

Miami, like we were mentioning, their playoff hopes do depend on what happens in that Denver and Cincinnati game.

But if they are motivated and they're still trying to make the playoffs.

I really like Tyreek Hill for his price.

The rest of that team's banged up.

If you look at that game in the wide receivers, every.

It's about every single pass catcher has a little red injury designation next to them.

But I really like him and Achan coming through.

If they need a big game.

I like Achan.

But Miami and Cleveland at the end of December, what could go wrong?

Maybe we should take the Browns defense.

It is supposed to be 50 degrees, but it's going to be raining.

Yeah, it's true.

I like both defenses in this game.

Well, let's build a lineup.

What are the stacks y'all are going back to?

I know we talked a little bit Young, we talked a little bit Darnold, we talked a little bit Baker, Anthony Richards, but I don't think you wanted any of the pass catchers from that game.

I don't have a stack that I have to have.

I have players that I particularly like, but this is Not a slate that I feel that I have to stack.

Yeah, I agree.

I'm definitely not paying up for any of the options.

So, Allen, we talked about, they're not really playing for anything and Jalen hurts.

We don't even know if he's going to play.

Then we.

The third highest is Baker and I think I'd rather just have the other side of the ball and save some money with Bryce Young.

I'm in on Bryce Young.

Who are we going to take a chance and stack him with on the other side?

I do want to lock in Evans.

I think let's lock in Mike Evans.

So targeted.

I think we should play Bryce Young with Coker if you want to play with somebody.

Since this is going to be our tournament lineup, I would take a chance more on Coker to be more explosive than Thielen.

Yeah.

And one note with that is Leggette is returning this week.

He is.

Well, we could just play Young by himself and not go here.

Let's.

Let's leave it out.

Let's go to running backs.

Who are we going to pay for at running back if we really want.

To invest it and go fully into this game?

I'd say Bucky at 6.7.

I love Bucky.

I think he's just a smash play.

I.

Yeah, let's put Bucky's in there.

I'm not seeing anyone that I love going down the list, so I kind of want to pay up.

And I would pay up probably for Jonathan Taylor.

I would agree.

All right, so now we got and going back Taylor in there.

Tampa Bay game.

One person we've talked about previously is Cade Otten for that tight end role, but I don't think we're talking about it.

We didn't talk about him earlier in this episode.

We've been seeing his production decline, haven't we?

We have been seeing his production really decline, especially as Jaylen McMillan has come up.

Yeah, it seemed kind of in a set as the rookie wide receiver was settling into Place.

But McMillan has stepped up recently, so leading us into tight ends.

There isn't too many options that I've seen here.

I like either paying up for Bowers or Janu or falling into that next range and looking at Okonkwo or Hawkinson.

I love Okonkwo here.

If we look at the game logs for Okonkwo, he last week had 11 targets and the week before that 10 targets.

So these were very competitive games.

But if we buy into this is going to be a competitive game and they are Going to be passing.

I think he's definitely going to be in the mix here and he saves us a lot of money.

He is down at 3600 versus paying up for Bowers at 6700.

Well then I like going to conquo in this spot especially that we'll put him in there.

Defense has not stopped any one all season long.

So we're still kind of slim here.

An average of 4600.

Let's see.

Let's lock in a defense and we'll start at the bottom and go the cheapest that we can, which is the Jets.

It's an interesting thought.

And then the Browns are at 2400.

I do like the Browns.

Who else do you like on this list or do you want to go with one of them?

The defenses really matter to me, their motivation.

I think I'm very interested in the very cheap options.

If there's nothing to play for.

If there's nothing to play for in that Miami game then why not take a shot in that Cleveland defense in a rainy game at home.

Let's do it.

2,400 for the Browns defense that helped us.

We're up to 5,400 average and we have three players left, two wide receivers and a flex.

So we are looking at some cheaper options now at wide receiver.

The only wide receiver we've locked in is Mike Evans.

The one that comes to mind is Brian Thomas Jr.

For the the Jaguars.

I feel like he's very dependable but I don't know that he's that explosive.

What is his price?

I like Brian Thomas Jr.

It kind of create like a little mini stack in that game with Okonkwo and we saw that actually work out a couple times in Jacksonville.

We saw Devonte Adams and Brian Thomas Jr.

Be a couple key pieces.

So I like that little mini correlation.

So do you like Brian Thomas Jr.

Better than Jordan Addison?

I would say so.

I'm heavily in on Jefferson this week.

Okay.

Or even Hawkinson and it kind of spreading out.

We need two more and we're.

We're looking in the cheaper ones.

Pass catching options for Bryce Young.

If he's going to be that quarterback that we need I would be comfortable locking in either Leggett or Coker and getting that high upside play.

Let me filter on them.

So Leggett is 4400 and Coker is 4300.

It's really a toss up.

I don't really know what Leggett's status is.

If he is expected.

He's just he was limited Thursday.

Let's go, Coker.

Let's just go.

The safer option right now on filming this on Thursday.

So now we're left at 5200.

We'll get off the Carolina players and we need a flex.

We could take our dart throw with Romeo Dobbs and get a piece of that game in the dome.

We can do that.

He's in this range.

He's definitely going to be the most talented in this price range that I see.

Unless we drop down to Jalen McMillan.

Yeah, McMillan is a little, but I think leaning with Watson banged up.

Get us a piece of that Green Bay Minnesota game.

Sure.

All right, that's it.

Well, that wraps us up for our Week 17 DFS Sunday episode.

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Happy holidays.

We'll see you next week.

Enjoy the football this weekend.