[00:00:00] Intro: It's around the house.

[00:00:11] Intro: Make sure you got the right incoming air for that ventilation fan, which is the door gap. Think about it, the gap under the door into the bathroom.

[00:00:20] Caroline Blazovsky: I think people have a hard time with the concept of ventilation. Like they just think the air is there. And then when you take it out that it just replenishes itself.

[00:00:29] Caroline Blazovsky: Think about it. What goes out comes in. So that space is always trying. Make up air and pull it from different places. So if you put that Ben vent fan on, it's gotta pull from somewhere and you need a gap under your door to let new air in. So it

Intro: can replace that air when it comes to remodeling and renovating your home.There is a lot to know the, we got you. This is around the house.

[00:00:55] Eric Goranson: Welcome to around the house with Eric G and Caroline B your one stop [00:01:00] shop for home improvement every single week. Thanks for joining. Hello, Caroline, how are you?

[00:01:05] Caroline Blazovsky: Hello everybody. Welcome. Welcome.

[00:01:08] Eric Goranson: Yeah, this is gonna be a great show today. We are diving into the bathroom.

[00:01:11] Eric Goranson: Mm-hmm we've got some great top remodeling tips for you if you're gonna do that bathroom remodel, but I do have an update on the whole contractor destroying the bathroom Amber's bathroom in Colorado. You remember that?

[00:01:30] Caroline Blazovsky: Yes. Well, you gotta give an update to all our new listeners who don't know what happened.

[00:01:34] Caroline Blazovsky: Just a quick recap.

[00:01:36] Eric Goranson: Yeah. So last year there was a contractor, uh, went in and, uh, was paid to do a bathroom. Remodel, went in, did an absolute horrible job. Terrible. It's just, it, it looked like an eight year old that was blind. Did this job that had never done tile before. Horrible, horrible, done. Well. [00:02:00] The contractor decided that he wanted to get paid early.

[00:02:05] Eric Goranson: Him and his wife went over to the house, got the key, got inside the house with the homeowner, not being home neighbor, followed him in the house. What are you doing over here? Not supposed to be in here, took a sledgehammer to the bathroom and repossessed it. And I'm using air quotes.

[00:02:21] Caroline Blazovsky: Cause he wasn't getting paid fast enough for something that was not even

[00:02:24] Eric Goranson: finished set.

[00:02:25] Eric Goranson: It was done. Wasn't close to done. Didn't have a shower door. Didn't have, it was partially done and it needed to all go in the dumpster. Anyway. So a number of our friends here around the house, Jason McDaniel from global tile, posse, William White, Artex all those guys went over there, got a crew together, flew out to Colorado Springs, Colorado, and absolutely dove in and gutted this bathroom in a week and put it back together.

[00:02:55] Eric Goranson: And for the industry made it right for Amber. [00:03:00] Amazing. So update Colorado Springs took a while to do this. Couple months later, they filed charges. And, you know, for breaking and entering that kind of stuff. So I have an update from Amber here. And so this happened here a week or two ago. So Jordan took her plea deal and pled guilty to a class six felony criminal mischief.

[00:03:27] Eric Goranson: By taking this plea, the felony burglary charge was dropped. She was sentenced to two years probation, a hundred hours of community service and must. Both an anger management class and a making better life choices class. But

[00:03:41] Intro: this was his wife.

[00:03:42] Caroline Blazovsky: This was the wife of the contractor. She was not there when he smashed,

[00:03:46] Eric Goranson: she was there.

[00:03:46] Eric Goranson: She was standing there. Oh, she was there, but she wasn't swinging the hammer.

[00:03:50] Caroline Blazovsky: Gotcha. Okay. So she was part

[00:03:51] Eric Goranson: of the, she was, she was a participant. Yes. Gotcha. So when asked, if she would like to make a statement, she let the judge know that she wishes that she could go back to the day and not do [00:04:00] what they did because she's remorseful, not only to what happened to her, but those around her as.

[00:04:05] Eric Goranson: Okay. Uh, fortunately for her, if she completes her probation successfully or guilty plea will be withdrawn and her case dismissed. So mm-hmm, got a chance to learn from that. Now, Terry, the contractor also accepted his plea deal and pled guilty to a class six felony criminal mischief. By taking this plea, the felony burglary charge was dropped mm-hmm his plead deal.

[00:04:28] Eric Goranson: Leaves it up to the judge for sentencing. So there's gonna be a eight week, uh, persistence investigation done where they'll dig into his past and present, including his two criminal mischief charges. And prior felon, felony Aries will make a decision on sentencing on September 8th.

[00:04:50] Caroline Blazovsky: He's had enough chances what that's yeah, come

[00:04:53] Intro: on.

[00:04:54] Eric Goranson: So there's other, from what it's being reported to me and I don't know their names. And so I'm just hearing this from [00:05:00] Amber, that there are two other victims of this contractor since her bathroom.

[00:05:07] Caroline Blazovsky: So, so scary. He needs to go. He needs to do some yeah. Jail time. Yeah.

[00:05:10] Intro: That's

[00:05:10] Eric Goranson: time. That's ugly. That's ugly. So that's what happens when you hire the wrong contractor and they're not like good people.

[00:05:20] Caroline Blazovsky: And why we constantly hit on that, about hiring a contractor, making sure you're making the right decision. It's something we may over reiterate, but there's a reason for it. Look at this instance. Yeah. Talking crime.

[00:05:34] Eric Goranson: Yeah. I mean, this made national news inside edition. It was on ABC NBC Fox. It was everywhere.

[00:05:40] Eric Goranson: It was crazy co yep. So anyway, there's our update on the Amber trucky situation. So that's cool. And I hope Amber's doing well. She's yes, she is. I, I was chatting with her online. She's been on the show. You can go back and listen to the podcast that, uh, we did while they were working [00:06:00] out in the house with the whole crew.

[00:06:01] Eric Goranson: So that was a lot of, lot of fun. And we, that was the first time we had Amber on the radio with that. That was great. Well, let's get into our top five bathroom remodeling tips before we run outta time. This segment bathroom, actually, it's gonna be more than five. We probably have seven or eight here. If we can get to 'em number one.

[00:06:17] Eric Goranson: Upgrade ventilation.

[00:06:19] Intro: Woo. Woo. Don't don't smell

[00:06:21] Caroline Blazovsky: that poop. Don't wanna have that moisture. Don't have that

[00:06:24] Eric Goranson: mold. You know, here's the thing when I first got into the design kitchen of bath design, when I was doing luxury spaces and this is back in the nineties, right? We were, we were buying like expensive Roburn medicine cabinets that were heated.

[00:06:40] Eric Goranson: So they wouldn't fog up,

[00:06:42] Intro: make me laugh. Remember the medicine,

[00:06:43] Eric Goranson: heated glass. So they wouldn't fog up. Now we have proper ventilation, so they never fog up. I have a steam shower, my glass never fogs. That's the key. And

[00:06:58] Caroline Blazovsky: now controlling that we were talking [00:07:00] about these fans, cuz code is different depending where you are.

[00:07:04] Caroline Blazovsky: Mm-hmm so it's Ashray 62.2 says you need 50 CFM mm-hmm . Is that pretty consistent across the country?

[00:07:13] Eric Goranson: No. Uh, some bathroom, well, some. Especially in the Northeast, which blows me away. Long as you have a window, you can open, they say that's adequate ventilation, which is completely wrong. Yeah.

[00:07:26] Caroline Blazovsky: I don't even go by that.

[00:07:27] Caroline Blazovsky: I just, everybody needs one.

[00:07:28] Eric Goranson: Yeah. So if you're remodeling your bathroom, there needs to be a vent fan. It needs to vent all the way outside of the residence, not into the attic space, not up to a ceiling vent in the, up there and screw to the inside of the roof vent. It needs to go out completely. And they

[00:07:46] Caroline Blazovsky: have these new vent fans, um, where they're not so new, but where they have a controllable CFM, meaning if you need 50, you could have 50.

[00:07:55] Caroline Blazovsky: If you need 80, you could have 80. If you need a hundred, you could have a hundred all on one fan, which makes it [00:08:00] better for contractors. Because if the contractor accidentally installs the wrong fan, you can with a flip of the switch, get the velocity you need, which is nice. Yeah.

[00:08:09] Eric Goranson: Yeah, bro, does that now Panasonic has done it for decade or two.

[00:08:15] Eric Goranson: Yep. So been able to sit there and, and adjust that, you know, so you can go, Hey, this is a big bathroom, high ceilings, crank it up little tiny bathroom. Well maybe we only need 70 CFM or whatever. Mm-hmm so that's a huge one. Always replace it, put the new one in, uh, especially if you've got that builder grade stuff, get it outta.

[00:08:37] Eric Goranson: And the new ones are so quiet. It'll be totally worth it. If you have a new house

[00:08:41] Caroline Blazovsky: now, though, I would assume they're putting in better

[00:08:44] Eric Goranson: fans. Now, most new houses are putting in the cheapy $40 ones. They're still putting cheap fans in really most are. Hm. Especially spec builders, cheapest fan. They can find, and they're loud.

[00:08:53] Eric Goranson: They're noisy. You can put a nice one in that works better and you could have more features like lights, sound, [00:09:00] heat, whatever. Yeah. So good to know. That's a good way to. All right. Before we go out to break, let's get into the next one here. This is the time to do some replumbing replace any and all galvanized pipe or CPVC pipe in that bathroom out out, and you have stuff in there.

[00:09:19] Eric Goranson: If you have galvanized drain lines, if you have galvanized water pipes, get it all out. That's that

[00:09:25] Caroline Blazovsky: silver looking. If you look at it, guys, it looks like a silverish type of. Versus copper, which is red-ish

[00:09:32] Eric Goranson: and you want to tear back apart to, to deal with it. So when we come back, we're gonna dive into more of this list.

[00:09:37] Eric Goranson: We got a bunch more to talk about. Let's do that just as soon as around the house returns

[00:09:49] Intro: allowed to be so hot.

[00:09:55] Intro: So many people.

[00:09:59] Eric Goranson: Hey, [00:10:00] I'm Rudy Wade. And you're listening to around the house with Eric G and Caroline B, listen to my music to improve your

[00:10:05] Intro: home. I hit your line. You got me thinking about the day we move. You have me

[00:10:12] Eric Goranson: singing in. Welcome back to the round, the house. Show your home improvement. Stop for all that information you need Caroline throwing stuff over there in the studio.

[00:10:20] Eric Goranson: I am that's deep.

[00:10:22] Intro: throwing pens at this guy. Oh,

[00:10:24] Eric Goranson: geez. Gotta watch out what's going on? Hey, well,

[00:10:31] Caroline Blazovsky: as long as I'm not throwing alarm clocks, it's all good.

[00:10:33] Intro: No,

[00:10:36] Eric Goranson: Touche. Touche SHA. That's a good one. Amen sister. So let's get back to our top bathroom remodeling tips. Because this is good. So this one here, I'm sorry. I'm gonna apologize right now to our old time contractors to listen to the show, cuz you're gonna start swearing at me.

[00:10:53] Eric Goranson: Uh, sorry. But what I believe is what I believe always use current waterproofing methods in [00:11:00] that shower or bathtub. Yes. I love it. Use the Sluder the weedy, the R. I wanna see a current waterproofing method and I'm not talking using hot tar. I'm not talking using a Hardy board Hardy board. I'm not talking about using you.

[00:11:19] Eric Goranson: Don't like it. Yeah. I'm not talking about using a mud pan, go with a certified product that is installed by a certified installer that gives you that lifetime warrant.

[00:11:29] Caroline Blazovsky: Period guys, go on Instagram. I say guys, girls. Yep. Anyone go on Instagram and view how they are doing showers today and bathroom areas because it is vastly different than what you saw years ago.

[00:11:42] Caroline Blazovsky: And if somebody walks in with Hardy backer border says, they're gonna use this. You need to reevaluate. Yep. And go and see the new technologies, because there are these systems that are really vapor and moisture proof. Mm-hmm to keep all this out and then you're not gonna have people like me coming in to have to test for mold or to have to recommend remediation and leaking to a [00:12:00] bottom floor.

[00:12:00] Caroline Blazovsky: Especially if this bathroom's up on a second floor, you need to have these new technologies in place. I

[00:12:06] Eric Goranson: saw in one episode of skip Bell's catch a contractor with Adam Carol, that they did the shower wrong. It was leaking into the slab on grade foundation. So badly that water was coming up through the concrete in the girls' bathroom and creating mold in the corner of the room because it was coming up through the concrete there.

[00:12:31] Eric Goranson: Mm. So it had this other moldy mess. Doesn't matter where you are. Doesn't matter. There are no shortcuts and showers because when it comes down to it, the tile and grout is not water. So what's important is the stuff behind it, even more so than the pretty stuff on the outside and

[00:12:50] Caroline Blazovsky: the stuff now, the way they do these bathrooms, it's, it's fascinating to watch because it's sort of layer upon layer and it's very neat and clean.

[00:12:58] Caroline Blazovsky: And a lot of these things that were heavy, if people [00:13:00] remember when you're bringing in that backer board, it was quite substantially heavy. Oh yeah. And you can see there's great. Like the tile chick and a lot of girls out there doing tiling women. Um, they can pick this stuff up now, cause it's just like phone board and it's very lightweight.

[00:13:14] Caroline Blazovsky: It's kind of amazing

[00:13:15] Eric Goranson: works really well. Works really well. So make sure that you're doing that. Avoid those kind of more home center options and especially the, the mud pans. I, I disagree with using those these days. There's better technology. You might as well just do it the right way with the newer product.

[00:13:31] Eric Goranson: And make sure that it's good because that's one of those things that, uh, you know, showers are expensive. Uh, when you're paying somebody to do a shower, I've seen, it's really easy to spend $10,000 on a shower.

[00:13:43] Caroline Blazovsky: These bathrooms are hugely expensive now. I mean, what are you thinking? Average bathroom

[00:13:47] Eric Goranson: remodel.

[00:13:48] Eric Goranson: Geez. You know, a whole bathroom. If you're just doing cheap, low quality stuff, like with a fiberglass, tub, shower, that kind of stuff. You're spending 30 to $40,000 on that. [00:14:00] Yep. For basic materials off the shelf kind of stuff. You're spending 60. If you're putting nice stuff in there, you think about it. I mean, you can spend on a shower, a custom glass shower door, a steamer shower door.

[00:14:11] Eric Goranson: You can spend three to $4,000 on the door for clear glass mm-hmm . And when, if you're hiring that out with the contractor, make sure the glass people are putting that shower door in, do not go buy one of the kits off the shelf, have the shower door people put it. That way you get their warranty. It's a smart way to do it.

[00:14:32] Eric Goranson: We

[00:14:32] Caroline Blazovsky: have glass castle, you know, glass castle. You probably don't

[00:14:35] Intro: have them. Yeah.

[00:14:36] Eric Goranson: We've got a lot of different companies around here.

[00:14:38] Caroline Blazovsky: That's a good point. We've never talked about that. Yeah. Making sure people get these kind of glass areas of the bathroom, go to a specified. Con building contractor that knows how to do that or sends you to the right location.

[00:14:50] Caroline Blazovsky: So you're warrantied. Yeah, I do

[00:14:52] Eric Goranson: not like, I mean, I, I installed my last shower door and I swore I will never do one again. It was just a horrible [00:15:00] experience and, and I'm DIY friendly, you know what I mean? And I'm like never doing this thing again. I sweated that, cuz all it takes is a little bump. It's a frame of shower door.

[00:15:10] Eric Goranson: It's big pieces of a hundred pound glass glass. Nope, never doing that. So the next one, I think is a really healthy home option for this spring, for the heated tile floors. Yes.

[00:15:24] Caroline Blazovsky: Dry up all that moisture that you drip, when you come out of the shower or the bath, and you've got all this water that hits that tile and that's not sealed underneath.

[00:15:33] Caroline Blazovsky: Well, sometimes it is, but a lot of the time,

[00:15:35] Eric Goranson: it's not, even if you're bringing a contract in it's, I'm gonna use a round number. It could be more than this, but it's like a thousand dollars option. If you're spending $30,000, spend $31,000 and get a heated tile floor. Now here's another trick. You can run that heated tile floor into the shower and into the bench on the shower.

[00:15:58] Eric Goranson: If you want to mm-hmm [00:16:00] or

[00:16:00] Caroline Blazovsky: how about don't forget our friends at

[00:16:01] Eric Goranson: AADA. Oh yes. Dry and shower. I put that in mind. I will not ever put another shower in without a drying system in. They look like a little tiny jacuzzi, little jet nozzles, and they come outta the wall in the, in the ceiling and the floor. I don't have to squee you my shower glass.

[00:16:19] Eric Goranson: I hit the timer. Boom. And I had to do that because when you do a, a, a steam shower, it's a sealed system in there, right? The door's meant to close up to keep the steam in. And so I'm like, man, that is gonna be an unhealthy moldy mildewy mess there. I am trapping all that in there and there's no way to do it.

[00:16:37] Eric Goranson: So IADA got me hooked up. I hit the button. I walk out, I crack the transom glass up top to get some airflow out of there. And it runs. And 15 minutes later, that whole space is Dr. As a bug

[00:16:53] Caroline Blazovsky: and they have options. So you can do nine nozzles, 12 nozzles. You can shoot it at areas in the shower that need it more than

[00:16:59] Eric Goranson: others.

[00:16:59] Eric Goranson: So they [00:17:00] decided it for you. They'll help you get the right plan. It's really cool. They're a great company to work with. That's another one of those things. That will treat that. And we'll talk a little bit more about this later, but it makes it so you don't have to squeegy everything and it makes it so you don't have to clean that shower like a 10th of the time.

[00:17:18] Eric Goranson: Mm. I mean, literally I can take a shower in there and if I take a minute with the handheld and, and rinse stuff down before I go not getting a dirty really.

[00:17:28] Caroline Blazovsky: But only do that. Guys only wrench your walls like that. If you have the vapor system behind it. Yep. If you do not spray your walls down, if you have Hardy backer board or even waterproof.

[00:17:40] Caroline Blazovsky: Yeah. You know, sometimes they put drywall back

[00:17:42] Eric Goranson: there. Yeah. Don't do that. My shower system has the vapor 85 weedy behind it. So it's vapor proof, not only waterproof it's vapor proof, then I have a slab portion and wall. So my only joints are in the corner. See, so it, that is, is waterproof. That's gonna be, [00:18:00] don't have to clean it that way works out really well.

[00:18:04] Eric Goranson: Nice. Now, when we come back, I've got, um, a tip here that I think everybody should do. This is gonna be an important one and it only takes a little bit to do it. And I think it's really important, especially if you're already bringing in some power for like, Uh, uh, a floor heat, or if you're bringing in power for that, uh, you know, air drying, air drying system or something like that.

[00:18:24] Eric Goranson: I think those are all keys right there we come back. We'll talk about that just as soon as around the house returns.

[00:18:56] Intro: Hey guys, you're listening to around

[00:18:57] Eric Goranson: the house with Eric G and Caroline B [00:19:00] Zeke sky. And I'm gonna show you how to shred it out

[00:19:02] Intro: while you're

[00:19:02] Eric Goranson: building

[00:19:02] Intro: it up.

[00:19:08] Eric Goranson: Welcome back to the, around the house. Show your home improvement source every week. Thanks for joining us. We've been talking about our. Bathroom remodeling tips. This doesn't matter if you're doing it as a DIY project, or if you've got the best high end contractor or the best low end contractor trying to SP things up.

[00:19:25] Eric Goranson: These are tricks that we think that you should be including, and little warning signs to save you money. Mm-hmm in these kind of projects.

[00:19:34] Caroline Blazovsky: You wanna recap? You know, one of them

[00:19:36] Eric Goranson: we should recap. Yeah. Let's recap here real quick. And I'm gonna add one to the list that I didn't even add on there, but we'll talk about these here.

[00:19:42] Eric Goranson: Upgrade ventilation, make sure that that is the right vent fan. That's going outside. Mm-hmm even if you've got that five year old spec house, it's probably got a really cheapy fan in there. Put something good. Panasonic, bro. New tone. One of those that can really move some. [00:20:00] Replace all the galvanized old pipe.

[00:20:01] Eric Goranson: If you've got galvanized drain lines, galvanized water lines, C P VC. Get that crap outta there. Get it out. Well, you got a wall opened up where you can open up a wall, put in good plumbing, clean it out,

[00:20:14] Intro: get it out. Next one,

[00:20:18] Eric Goranson: always use current waterproofing methods for that tub, shower, or shower. So not using the Hardy backer, not using use one of the R weedy Sluder any one of those guys?

[00:20:35] Eric Goranson: Uh, the last one we talked about here spring for the heated tile floors

[00:20:41] Caroline Blazovsky: or dry or drying system.

[00:20:44] Eric Goranson: Yep. Ando and, and, or a drying system. Mm-hmm I, I have a combination of both works really well, no mildew issues in the shower that. So the next one here is a simple one, run electrical [00:21:00] for a powered toilet seat.

[00:21:01] Eric Goranson: Mm. For that bday

[00:21:07] Intro: I like just run the

[00:21:08] Caroline Blazovsky: power over there. I like the automatic seat that just shuts for you. Anyway. I mean, just from a cleanliness standpoint, you don't want the bowl open to your air space. I mean, it's kind of

[00:21:15] Eric Goranson: gross. You're showering and then they have lights. You get, you get like the Kohler one, it has lights.

[00:21:22] Eric Goranson: You know what I mean? Or American standard has lights. They've got a lighted thing in there. She can walk in there in the middle of the night and have a little glow of the toilet you're heading over to without turning the lights on. Is it glow if it's

[00:21:32] Caroline Blazovsky: shut.

[00:21:33] Intro: So if it's over shut,

[00:21:34] Eric Goranson: you sees you get close.

[00:21:36] Eric Goranson: They'll open up. And the light turns on. Oh, that's

[00:21:38] Intro: cool.

[00:21:39] Eric Goranson: Mm-hmm so it's like et phone and home. So that's a good. Now you brought this one up and this is a key here and it's a good key for number one, which was upgrade ventilation. Make sure you got the right incoming [00:22:00] air for that ventilation fan. Which is the door gap.

[00:22:04] Eric Goranson: Think about it, the gap under the door into the bathroom.

[00:22:07] Caroline Blazovsky: I think people have a hard time with the concept of ventilation. Like they just think the air is there. And then when you take it out that it just replenishes itself. Think about it. What goes out comes in. So that space is always trying to make up air and pull it from different places.

[00:22:23] Caroline Blazovsky: So if you put that Ben vent fan. It's gotta pull from somewhere and you need a gap under your door to let new air in, so it can replace that air. Yep.

[00:22:34] Eric Goranson: So let's think about this. Let's say you've got 120 CFM fan and because of Ben's obstructions venting outside, let's say it's moving a hundred and a hundred CFM of air.

[00:22:44] Eric Goranson: Right? Mm-hmm that? To picture that amount of air here comes to basketballs. That's cubic feet per minute. The basket's a hundred basketballs hundred basketballs of air. [00:23:00] So that's coming underneath that door. So if you've got that quarter inch door under the door, not enough air, you wanna make sure you've got enough surface area.

[00:23:13] Eric Goranson: Of air coming under now with mine, I'm gonna do it a little different. This is a

[00:23:16] Caroline Blazovsky: good idea, actually. Here's why we've never talked about this. We talked about this before the show, and this is a, yeah, I think this is

[00:23:21] Intro: kind of genius.

[00:23:24] Eric Goranson: So I have a problem. I have the right door gap under my door, but because I've heated towel floors and the fan is running.

[00:23:31] Eric Goranson: So if I jump in the shower, take a, let's say a 10 minute shower, quick shower. Mm-hmm I walk over, get dried off, go in front of my sink, which is next to the door that comes. That floor is colder than the rest of it because of the air that is rushing across the floor down below. Okay. Think of having something that's 85 degrees and then you're blowing it with 70 degree air mm-hmm brings it down to 70.

[00:23:57] Eric Goranson: So it seems cooler. Okay. [00:24:00] So you don't have that warmth there. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna create up above higher, up on the wall, a secondary intake port. That's gonna look just like an. Return air grill mm-hmm inside and outside of the bathroom, out into the hallway so that now air can transfer in between the rooms there and not have it all coming underneath the door.

[00:24:23] Eric Goranson: And if you

[00:24:23] Caroline Blazovsky: wanted to make it, you know, hidden, you know, it's kind of how we talk about drains and showers. You know how we have like the invisible drain. Wouldn't it be cool if we had like invisible vents like that, like above the door where you couldn't even see it and it's just allowing the air flow.

[00:24:35] Caroline Blazovsky: Yeah.

[00:24:37] Eric Goranson: It'd be really cool. It'd be really cool. I'd love to see like a more linear vent. Yes. You know what I mean? Yes. That's what I'm

[00:24:43] Intro: thinking. Just

[00:24:43] Caroline Blazovsky: the wine. Just like the infinity drain. That'd be cool. Mm-hmm mm-hmm see. We're giving people ideas, guys. I know we want percentages

[00:24:50] Intro: something that's

[00:24:51] Eric Goranson: besides our idea, the big vent yeah, I like it.

[00:24:55] Eric Goranson: That would be cool. All right. But see, that's the thing. You gotta take [00:25:00] those things into account. That's the bad part about having the heated floor with that is to have too much air rushing over.

[00:25:06] Caroline Blazovsky: Yep, but you need the air guys, so don't close off. Mm-hmm don't put the doors too close to the floor, make sure everything's got some breathability

[00:25:16] Eric Goranson: and that's the challenge there.

[00:25:17] Eric Goranson: So another one that's not on the list. I'm gonna hit this one right here. When you're gonna design that bathroom, hire a kitchen and bath designer to help you.

[00:25:25] Intro: Of course,

[00:25:28] Eric Goranson: it will save you money. I wouldn't do

[00:25:30] Caroline Blazovsky: it without

[00:25:31] Intro: it.

[00:25:33] Eric Goranson: We've talked about this on the kitchen. One, the same rules apply for the bathroom.

[00:25:38] Eric Goranson: When you get that, they know what the current styles are, what the current products are. They're gonna help you with lead times. They're gonna help you with tracking down the right materials and making it all work together. Yes. And they can probably come up with a better plan for your space and what was already there.

[00:25:57] Eric Goranson: You have to always remove and replace. [00:26:00] So that's a big key right there. All right. The next one is something that you run into on yours. Right? Caroline,

[00:26:08] Caroline Blazovsky: Eric brought, Eric's gonna help me fix it. I, you need to have a really good ledge on your sink. So what does that mean? Mm-hmm, that your sink isn't taking up the whole entire space of your countertop that when water splash is over, it ends up going down the front of the cabinets and down to the floor.

[00:26:26] Caroline Blazovsky: Now I have this problem cuz I did poor design.

[00:26:30] Eric Goranson: Well, that was, that was hip. When you did it, the vessel sink on the countertop thing was big. And the problem is, is some of those vessel sinks are only an inch or too tall, right? Yeah. They're not very deep.

[00:26:40] Caroline Blazovsky: They're tiny. Right. They go around, they look really cool.

[00:26:42] Caroline Blazovsky: They're these thin sinks that just sort of sit on top of your, you know, whatever you're using, whether you're Corion or quarts or granite.

[00:26:49] Eric Goranson: That look like, and if you use a water pick or anything else, you're getting water everywhere.

[00:26:55] Caroline Blazovsky: And I have it dripping down the front. When I get my water pick going, it's like a [00:27:00] waterfall cascading down the front and it's getting into the cabinet and now it's taking off the finish.

[00:27:04] Caroline Blazovsky: Mm-hmm it's

[00:27:04] Intro: a mess.

[00:27:06] Eric Goranson: Oh yeah. And it's bad. It's bad. So pay attention to what you do for sinks. Those might be great for a powder room mm-hmm or somebody might be just quick washing hands. You know, down in the hall powder room or something that you wanna make a statement, but they're not the best for a situation like a master or hall, bath.

[00:27:25] Eric Goranson: Yeah. Especially a hall bath where you have kids. Yep. I thought I could get away it. I like under Mount sinks because I had new kids. I like under sinks where you've got the slab with the sink coming up underneath it. That is deep. Yes. And maybe not a perfectly square bottom cuz a square bottom tends to splash more.

[00:27:41] Eric Goranson: Yes. See than a little bit of a curve to it.

[00:27:47] Caroline Blazovsky: Interesting. See things you learn. So go with a curve sink. No flat sinks. Mine's flat.

[00:27:53] Eric Goranson: Yeah. And the other thing is, and this applies more to kitchens, but you know, I have the apron front sinks. [00:28:00] You gotta think about those, those get you more when you're working in the sink, they get more water on you really?

[00:28:06] Eric Goranson: Because you don't have that inch and a half of countertop over the top of it. Oh yeah. So you tend to wear more, you wear the, the dishes you wear the water more.

[00:28:16] Intro: I seem to have

[00:28:17] Caroline Blazovsky: a problem with that. So

[00:28:17] Eric Goranson: think about those things. I am a, I'm

[00:28:19] Caroline Blazovsky: the, that's a key. I, when I use things in the kitchen and bathroom, it seems I'm I'm water works.

[00:28:23] Caroline Blazovsky: Everything goes all over the place.

[00:28:26] Eric Goranson: Exactly. All right. When you come back, we'll wrap this one up. We got a few more for you. We'll do that just as soon as around the house returns

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[00:29:08] Intro: Hi, everybody. I'm Ariman

[00:29:10] Eric Goranson: from. Band and you are listening to around

[00:29:15] Intro: the house with Eric G and the beautiful Caroline.

[00:29:22] Intro: Welcome

[00:29:22] Eric Goranson: back to the round, the house show. Now, if you're just joining us, we've been talking about our top. What about 11 remodeling bathroom tips that you should pay attention to? Doesn't matter if you're doing this as a DIY project. Or if you're paying for that contractor to come in and do it, these are our tips for you.

[00:29:38] Eric Goranson: Either way. There's something to consider when you're doing this kind of project. Now, if you're catching us on the radio, we appreciate you. You can always catch it on the podcast. If you missed part of this and you can subscribe, listen, heck if you like what we're talking about, throw a review up. We always appreciate those as well.

[00:29:54] Eric Goranson: We good reviews though. Oh,

[00:29:57] Caroline Blazovsky: oh yeah.

[00:29:57] Eric Goranson: We don't want any nasty comments. Well, heck we'll help you if [00:30:00] they're nasty. So we'll, we'll, we'll we'll hammer on you there just because we like to have fun. So anyway, Caroline, should we jump into the next one? Lucky 11. We're go making our way there. Yep. Let's go into the next one here.

[00:30:12] Eric Goranson: Yeah. On their way there. So here's one, that's really key. And we'll talk about this later in the next episode, but treat your water before you do the bathroom project. I don't like people. That go in and have a trashed bathroom because of hard water deposits in the toilet, the shower door, the shower door looks like it's been painted white.

[00:30:41] Eric Goranson: Everything's crusty from mineral buildup and they don't treat the water and they come back and put the stuff in. And in six months it's gonna look exactly the same as what you just threw

[00:30:52] Caroline Blazovsky: away. Yeah. I have a caveat to this and I didn't think about it going into it. We need to have them test their water first because we need to find out what's [00:31:00] going on with the water guides.

[00:31:01] Caroline Blazovsky: Like you don't wanna just go and treat, do not do that. You need to test and well, no, no, no.

[00:31:04] Eric Goranson: Always you always have to test correct, but I, I mean, you already know you have a, a water issue test it. So you know what that process is

[00:31:14] Caroline Blazovsky: going to be, and that's gonna determine, right. Don't don't just put a softener on there guys, cuz it can create other problems.

[00:31:19] Caroline Blazovsky: So you wanna make sure you know what the problem is with your water and what's good. What's bad. And then get a treatment.

[00:31:26] Eric Goranson: Yeah. You don't even know what that crustiness is. It could be a bunch of different things.

[00:31:29] Caroline Blazovsky: Irons, right. Could be mages, could be calcium, could be magnesium. I mean, seriously,

[00:31:35] Eric Goranson: take a look at it.

[00:31:36] Eric Goranson: So you know what the right process is, cuz you might not even need a softener. You might need something else to deal, deal with that. So make sure you go that route with it, but that's a key, don't go ruining your new stuff. So do that first. Get that dialed. Because you're saving your water heater, you're saving your dishwasher, you're saving your ice maker.

[00:31:56] Eric Goranson: You're, you're, you're helping other rooms in the house

[00:31:59] Caroline Blazovsky: while you do that. [00:32:00] And you're gonna have a healthier shower guys, cuz a lot of that chlorination byproduct that's in there. You can have that removed. So when you're taking a shower, you're not breathing in all these carcinogens, right?

[00:32:09] Eric Goranson: Yeah. Get rid of some PFAS when you're at P.

[00:32:14] Eric Goranson: I love that word PFAS so that's a big one, right there. That's one you should pay attention to. Now here's a debate that has been a big one out there. So many twenties, thirties, forties homes didn't have vent fans. So they put the window in the bathtub. Right. You've seen that with the curtain. They even had the curtain, like you had the curtain in there.

[00:32:39] Eric Goranson: Here's the cool thing with this. Yes, you can have a window in the bathtub without having to go out and change the siding. Change the, the, you know, maybe put in a taller window, you can do that without having to change the exterior of the house, but here's the secret. You have [00:33:00] to deal with it. With that shower system that's there.

[00:33:05] Eric Goranson: So if you're doing the Sluder, the weedy, everything else, you can wrap that into the window and make that waterproof flashing so you can deal with it there. Now there's a big caveat to this one as well. That window has to, has to be tempered glass. Yeah. So it has to say in the little thing on it, tempered glass has to be labeled on their tempered glass.

[00:33:34] Eric Goranson: That way, if you trip and fall, you're not gonna be cut up. You're not gonna get looking like you were in a Stephen King novel.

[00:33:42] Caroline Blazovsky: I don't know. It's kind of weird having like a window in your shower, but I know they used to do it. I have a window in the bathroom above the toilet, but not in the shower.

[00:33:50] Eric Goranson: Yeah.

[00:33:50] Eric Goranson: Yeah. I've seen, I've had my last house, had the windows high, like the little narrow one tie

[00:33:57] Caroline Blazovsky: that those are nice in the shower, but I can't imagine I've seen them where they're actually like [00:34:00] in the shower.

[00:34:02] Eric Goranson: Oh yeah, no, I had a house 20 years ago. It was a full and like 3 0 4. Oh single hung window in the shower.

[00:34:08] Eric Goranson: That's so weird, you know and yeah, that's a huge problem. And when you open that up for the remodel, expect mold, mildew, rot, bugs, Ugh, black studs. That's gonna be ugly, cuz it's never, it's not been waterproof its whole life. I promise you that little shower curtain you cut up and put in there did not fix it.

[00:34:31] Eric Goranson: cause somebody before you didn't care for it. So that's a big one. Now here is my pet peeve. I'm gonna call this. I have a, I have a name for this, my Pinterest pet peeve. Say that fast. My Pinterest pet peeve. Do not try to talk your designer or electrician into putting the chandelier over the bathtub. No

[00:34:59] Caroline Blazovsky: guys.[00:35:00]

[00:35:00] Caroline Blazovsky: No, but tell them why. They're probably not even thinking

[00:35:04] Eric Goranson: that is against building code period, explanation point. You know why? Cuz if you're standing in the bathtub getting in and you go to slip. You can't reach up and grab an electrical device it's plugged in. So you can't do that. And I know you will have a hundred pictures from Pinterest that shows them in there.

[00:35:30] Intro: Whoa, smells like bacon. That was some serious ion. Yeah. Had life of its

[00:35:38] Eric Goranson: own. no kidding. You can't do that guys. So just, you know, And yes, I have had contractors put in rough in a light, put the cover over it. They get done, they go away and the homeowner goes in and puts it up there because they wanted to have it up there.

[00:35:58] Eric Goranson: I don't want to be taking a [00:36:00] bathtub, have a little earthquake and have that thing fall down, land in the tub. And it's like somebody throwing the toaster in it. Not a good idea. I'm not risking my life for a light fixture. I think that's true with now you can move it over.

[00:36:13] Caroline Blazovsky: Any water source though, Eric, right?

[00:36:14] Caroline Blazovsky: I mean, it's true. You don't wanna have any of these kind of things that could become in contact with water, whether it's around the sink, the shower flush mat fixtures. You know what I mean? Seems like logic.

[00:36:25] Eric Goranson: Yeah. You just wanna be able to not be able to touch water and something electrical and have it in your hand at the same time, a fixture mm-hmm bad idea.

[00:36:32] Eric Goranson: So these are all things that you should really pay attention to. That can be really expensive. And some of these are seems so simple, but I can't tell you how many times that I know people that went in did that bathroom remodel happens all the time and they forgot to change any of that pipe out. And now the plumbers coming in two years later and they're ripping up the walls that they just did because they didn't get in the walls at that time [00:37:00] and do it like for me, Here's another here's one little other little tip that I wanna throw in here before we go, make sure any time on your house when you have a wall opened up or a floor opened up, like when I was doing my kit tree model, I had to tear some drywall out cause I was running a larger duct outside for my vent fan.

[00:37:24] Eric Goranson: Well, now that I have that. I had stuff I had to do up there for the bathroom. Mm-hmm so make sure when walls are opened up now, another, another great tip. Get outside our 11. Now I throw in that bathroom. If I'm tearing it down to the studs, I put rock wall safe and sound insulation around the whole thing.

[00:37:47] Eric Goranson: Mm. I can jump in a shower and no one will hear that shower in a bedroom next to it. If I have insulated those walls and other

[00:37:56] Caroline Blazovsky: stuff. You know me, I like to have a lot bathroom fan, cuz I [00:38:00] don't like people to hear me doing my business in the, you know yeah.

[00:38:03] Eric Goranson: Comparison. Yeah. But here's the other thing that's cool too with that.

[00:38:07] Eric Goranson: Is that like with a steam shower I needed to, because in theory, if I have humid air inside that wall cavity mm-hmm and I have a hot surface in there. I can get condensation. Yeah. You can on the backside of the wall, which causes mold. Yep. So make sure you think these things through and in today's age where people in bedrooms might be having a zoom meeting or kids do in school insulating those spaces between rooms can really make a difference on keeping things quiet and.

[00:38:43] Eric Goranson: That stuff's waterproof and fireproof. So it's, it's just good to have in there. Well, Caroline, we're about out of time. We

[00:38:49] Intro: did justice.

[00:38:50] Caroline Blazovsky: We did kitchens. We did bad things. You guys, you have no excuse. Now we laid it out for you. Easy, made it easy for you. Follow our [00:39:00] instructions. You'll be good.

[00:39:02] Eric Goranson: Absolutely. And if you have other tips that you've found out, make sure and send us a message over it, around the house, online.com.

[00:39:08] Eric Goranson: If you have a tip that you thought we share it up on social. And, uh, we'll put it up there because you know, sometimes there's other tips that you've found out there that we could have added to the show. Right?

[00:39:18] Caroline Blazovsky: Yeah. Check us out on social media. It's time to go.

[00:39:22] Eric Goranson: We're outta here. Time to go. The music's playing I'm Eric G and I'm Caroline B and you've been listening to around

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