Big Fish Sales Mission Small Pond Marketing Strategy what the heck does that mean?
Speaker BWhen my granddaughter and I co authored.
Speaker AOur children's book the Adventures of Caboose the Rocky Mountain Bear, the origin story of our children's book took place in the small Rocky Mountain town of Bighead.
Speaker ABighead is based on a real town where Kira and I spent years enjoying outdoor adventures together.
Speaker AThe Adventures of Caboose the Rocky Mountain Bear is a modern take on storytelling through the eyes and words of an adventurous bear named Caboose.
Speaker AThe book is written to inspire young children to embrace Mother Nature and all her beauty, the wildlife and humans that live within the community, and to enjoy the many adventures that Mother Nature has to offer.
Speaker AIf you click on the link provided in the Show Notes Grammarist According to their definition, a big fish in a small pond will never achieve the same success as those in a bigger pond.
Speaker AA big fish in a small pond usually hints at a person's lack of overall motivation.
Speaker AIt serves as a low key criticism of someone feeling more important than they really are and who wouldn't be successful in a bigger pond.
Speaker AIn this episode I will share with you.
Speaker AIt's not the pond that limits you, it's recognizing possibilities.
Speaker ASplish Splash.
Speaker ALet's dive into this episode when thinking about the possibilities for a book launch, felt that because our children's book had gotten its inspiration from the small town we called our home away from home that the small town media would be interested in our story behind our story and how our children's book came to life.
Speaker AThe local newspaper showed great interest, took pictures, interviewed me, and published the interview and the photographs.
Speaker AAnd luck will have it, a local retailer loved our children's book and added it to their children's book inventory.
Speaker AThis could have been the end of our story of a fish in a small pond.
Speaker AIf it hadn't been for our approach to selling our children's book to the local newspaper and a local retailer, we would not have caught the attention of a radio producer looking for a story.
Speaker ALittle did we know, the waves of our little newspaper story spilled over into a larger pond and caught the attention of a radio producer.
Speaker AThis radio producer contacted the the local store's buyer and before we knew it, we were talking to the radio station's producer.
Speaker AWithin a few short weeks, my granddaughter, co author and I were guests on two different radio stations in two distinct markets.
Speaker AThe radio interviews went well and the listeners complimented us and as a result, we saw a bump in our children's book sales.
Speaker AIn today's episode, we share one of the stations Radio Interviews we had such fun doing the radio interviews, we decided we needed to expand our children's book author's voice and produce a podcast dedicated to children's book readers and the story behind the story of children's book authors.
Speaker AChildren's books allow children to experience many emotions including joy, happiness, love and laughter and much more.
Speaker AThey can also reflect on moments of sadness which usually leads to happy endings or positive lessons.
Speaker AEven though we can't interview all the world's children's book authors, we aim to share as many behind the scenes inspirations for developing, writing and producing children's books content as much as possible and how each author uses their imaginative and creative hearts to publish, sell, market and distribute their books.
Speaker AAs children's book readers, you can't possibly purchase every child's book written.
Speaker AHowever, giving you a glimpse into as many children's book authors, we can help you as the reader, lower your risk of purchase.
Speaker AYou get to know each author and see if their stories, characters and messages fit with you, your children or your grandchildren.
Speaker AEnjoy our radio interview on CBC Radio Calgary called the Home Stretch and listen to my granddaughter and co author Kira and decide if our book is right for you, your children or your grandchildren.
Speaker AIf our book is a good fit for your children's book library, please purchase and know that your purchases go beyond helping us bring more adventure stories in our book series, the Adventures of Caboose the Rocky Mountain Bear.
Speaker AIt helps us to continue to produce our children's book authors podcast Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors.
Speaker APlease know that our goal is to release one new podcast episode a week introducing you to children's book authors, their children's book and the story behind their journey to bring a children's book to life.
Speaker AAdd outdoor recreational activities to living in harmony with Mother Nature each week.
Speaker ACheers and enjoy our radio interview.
Speaker AHi Chris, thank you for having us.
ChrisThank you for joining us.
ChrisThank you and congrats to you both on the book.
ChrisRick, I'll start with you.
ChrisHow did this all start?
Speaker BIt actually all started when Kira was in daycare and we had a condo in Cammore and she would come down with me and I actually taught her how to ski.
Speaker BAnd when we were on one of our adventures on going down to ski, Kira had said to me, oh, can I bring my friend Georgia?
Speaker BThe daycare had this stuffy named Georgia and Georgia was a bunny.
Speaker BAnd so what happened was they would if a child from the daycare went on a vacation, they could take Georgia and her suitcase Full of clothes on the vacation.
Speaker BAnd then when the child came back to daycare, they got to tell stories of the adventures they had together, wherever they were.
Speaker BAnd so that's what ended up happening was Kira was in the backseat in her.
Speaker BIn her child's proof seat.
Speaker BAnd then I had to buckle in Georgia beside her, and Georgia came with us.
Speaker BAnd really, Georgia was the inspiration behind Caboose.
ChrisWow.
ChrisAnd Kira, do you remember that a little bit?
KiraYeah.
KiraI do remember how much I, like, loved stuffies, and I constantly wanted to be bringing them on trips and buckling them in.
KiraI, like, treated them like they were just a kid, like me.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisSo what did the two of you want to.
ChrisWant to do with these stories?
ChrisAnd.
ChrisAnd why did you want to get together and start writing these books?
Speaker BWhat happened was when.
Speaker BAs Kira got older, of course she got.
Speaker BThen she didn't have to go to daycare, but she said to me, papa, you know, like, we don't have Georgia.
Speaker BAnd actually the daycare even had a brother named George.
Speaker BAnd there.
Speaker BSo there was two of them, but so there was no more Georgia and George to take on our trips.
Speaker BSo Kira said, can we come up with our own stuffy?
Speaker BMaybe I'll let Kira tell some more about that.
KiraYeah.
KiraSo we went into a coffee shop, and we were like, you know what?
KiraWe have all these memories.
KiraWe have all these pictures.
KiraWhy don't we turn them into something?
KiraAnd so, yeah, we sat down at a coffee shop, and we started looking through all these pictures, and we're like.
KiraI think, like, we can do something with these.
KiraWe have all these stories.
KiraWhy don't we share them?
Speaker AWow.
ChrisAnd so, yeah, it sounds like the two of you had a lot of potential source material to go through.
ChrisRick, tell us a bit about what happens in this first book.
Speaker BOh, okay.
Speaker BThanks, Chris.
Speaker BSo it's really about the birth of this bear named Caboose.
Speaker BAnd what happened was, in this fictional town of Bighead, they hadn't seen the birth of a bear cub in many, many moons, as we say in the story.
Speaker BAnd when they found out that Caboose's mom was going to have a baby, the town just went absolutely crazy with excitement.
Speaker BAnd it's all about the excitement that built around this baby being born.
Speaker BBaby cub being born in big Head.
Speaker BAnd that's how the whole thing started.
Speaker BEven the mayor got involved, and they called everybody together and they planned for the May long weekend.
Speaker BAnd it was just.
Speaker BThe whole community got involved.
Speaker BAnd it's all about community also in the book.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisAnd I know there are some sections towards the back of the book where you've incorporated some blank pages and places for kids to color and come up with their own stories.
ChrisWhy was that an important part to include, Rick?
Speaker BIt was really important because Kira and I, when we started doing all this, and of course, like Kyra said, we had all this, all these great pictures, you know what?
Speaker BBut what happens, Chris, is people have.
Speaker BAnd you probably have had this happen to you.
Speaker BYou have all these pictures on your phone and you never see them again.
Speaker BThey just never come forward.
Speaker BBut for Kira and I, we went, as Kira said, to a coffee shop.
Speaker BWe were able to bring some of these pictures forward and from there it actually developed into all these different stories that we wrote down.
Speaker BAnd then we had to have a character and the character evolved and that's how the whole book came together.
Speaker BSo that's what we're trying to do is we're trying to encourage, you know, moms and dads, grandparents, children to sit down.
Speaker BAnd as you said, Chris, we have these activity, we call them activity pages towards the back of the book.
Speaker BAnd first we ask you to write down your adventure that you had together.
Speaker BAnd then we actually have picture framed spots where you can actually then bring your stories to life in sketches.
Speaker BAnd that's pretty much what Kira and I did.
Speaker BAnd so we thought if it got us involved and created these memories and brought them to life, then we want to definitely encourage other people to do the same thing.
Speaker BIt's so much fun.
ChrisKira, is there a particular adventure that you've had with your grandpa that comes to mind that you are, as you're excited to tell.
KiraYeah.
KiraSo actually we have a book in the works right now, and this is actually our next book coming out and it takes place at the Canmar Folk Festival.
KiraAnd it's when my cousin actually won a gift card to one of the shops downtown.
KiraAnd yeah, she was called up on stage.
KiraAnd that was a really cool experience and just being able to witness it.
ChrisThat's cool.
Speaker AYeah, Chris.
Speaker BWe call it the Hijinks from the Big Head Folk Music Festival.
ChrisThat must be so much fun, you know, coming up with this sort of alternate universe version of Canmore in the Bow Valley and writing these stories.
ChrisI mean, these are obviously very meaningful to the both of you in that these are things that the two of you and the rest of Kira's cousins have experienced together.
ChrisWhat do you hope, folks?
ChrisYou know, what do you hope the general public gets out of this reading these stories?
Speaker BYou know, we always are looking for A way to bond with, with your families.
Speaker BAnd you know, a lot of times grandparents, there's sometimes a disconnect because of technology and all that.
Speaker BBut if you incorporate, and that's what Kira and I did, we incorporated and we embraced technology so, you know, we, we didn't shy away from it and we incorporated into the storytelling so, you know, to be able to have the digital pictures.
Speaker BAnd I tell the story of Kira being our first digital baby because you know what?
Speaker BKira, when she was born, we bought our first digital camera.
Speaker BThere is no film of Kira.
Speaker BKira's not on a roll of film.
Speaker BAll the pictures of Kira are all digital.
Speaker BAnd guess what?
Speaker BThey all reside.
Speaker BWell, a lot of them reside on my phone.
Speaker BAnd then for Kira and I to sit down and add a coffee shop and go through the pictures and just.
Speaker BIt was.
Speaker AIt's incredible.
Speaker BSo that's what we're trying to instill in other people is sit down with your grandchildren or your children and, and look at the pictures.
Speaker BDon't let them just sit there and lay dormant.
Speaker BBring em.
Speaker BBring em to life.
KiraYeah.
KiraI think that it's just super important to just make the memories and live in the moment because a lot of the time in this age we can just.
KiraWe can just forget to live while we're just looking at our phones constantly.
KiraAnd it's just super important to make those memories and try something you haven't done before.
KiraLike horseback riding in the winter is one of my favorites as well.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd we wrote a story about that.
Speaker BYou know, the special horseshoes and stuff like that.
ChrisHow many stories have you written?
Speaker BI think we're up to about 38.
ChrisWow, that's incredible.
Speaker AThat's a lot.
Speaker BIt is, Chris.
Speaker BWhat we've done is creating most of them into audiobooks.
Speaker BFirst, Kira's cousin Bailey, our middle granddaughter, she loves reading these things.
Speaker BShe.
Speaker BAnd a lot of times she's the voice of Caboose.
KiraYeah, she does a really good job and she's, she's a good age to where you, you really feel like you're experiencing it through Caboose.
ChrisOh, wow.
ChrisHow old is she?
Speaker BOh, she's 13 now, but we started her when she was a little younger and she's got the perfect voice right now.
Speaker BYou know that.
Speaker BAnd also our.
Speaker BOur youngest grandson, he's just turned 10.
Speaker BAnd he's amazing too, because you've got, you got, you capture that youthful young spark.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ARight.
ChrisWell, congratulations on this, Rick and Kira, and thanks for joining us today.
Speaker BOh, our pleasure.
KiraThanks for having us.
Speaker BYeah, thank you, Chris.