Hello everyone and welcome to Boomer Podcasters, the podcast that is here to help baby boomers, Gen X, gen Z, gen Y and anyone else start a podcast.
HostWe will help with everything you need from what kind of podcast to start, how to record your voice and your co host, if you have one, to editing and getting your podcast out in the world.
HostSo sit back and get ready to podcast.
DaveWell, what do you think of that?
DaveThat was Ben from eleven Labs.
DaveBen is an artificial intelligence voice from a company called 11 Labs.
DaveNow 11 Labs is a.
DaveYou type in what you want to say and then you get a choice of voices to choose from.
DaveAnd I use this as an introduction to both Boomer podcasters as well as five Minutes of Gray Hair Dave.
DaveFive Minutes of Gray Hair Dave is my other podcast that is a weekly podcast.
DaveNow.
DaveIt was originally set up as a five day a week podcast and it was going rather well, to be honest with you.
DaveBut it got to a point where I was starting to have less and less to talk about.
DaveThat's about growing up as a baby boomer, going through the years, going through the music, some of the news that was going on during the day.
DaveYou know, like, you know, if you're baby boomer, you grew up in the 60s and 70s and 50s, right?
DaveSo that's of the 1900s, in case you don't know what that is.
DaveSo the music and the news that went on of the day, it was important to us.
DaveSo if that's something you're interested in listening to, please do.
DaveIt's over at five minutes with Grayhair Dave dot com.
DaveThat's the number five minutes with gray haired ave dot com.
DaveBut let's get into Boomer podcasters today.
DaveYou can use AI for all kinds of things now, and I'm not suggesting that you do not to begin with.
DaveOkay, I want you to learn how to podcast properly before you learn how to use these additional intelligent.
DaveThey call it artificial intelligence.
DaveI use it as an assistive intelligence.
DaveI can use AI to help me edit through programs like Izotope or even through programs that I used just in my Logic Pro.
DaveIt will look at it or even like.
DaveI also use Hindenburg too.
DaveHindenburg is a daw.
DaveIt's a DAW digital audio workstation.
DaveIt'll go in once I'm done recording and I hit stop.
DaveIt goes in and automatically fine tunes.
DaveThe level of the voices, voice, voices, whatever you've got going on.
DaveIt's, it's really, really nice.
DaveYeah, it's called auto leveling, basically now on Logic Pro 10, which is what I'm using also I use, I record on both because I don't want to take a chance.
DaveI made a mistake in editing once on Logic Pro and I don't need to go into all that, but I dual record now.
DaveYou don't need to dual record.
DaveYou don't need to do what I'm doing.
DaveIf I had been going through an audio workstation, through an audio interface to my computer that has the ability to record, I wouldn't have lost.
DaveThat doesn't matter.
DaveI want to make it simple and easy for you to start out.
DaveSo here's what I've done today.
DaveI want you to know how to get your voice from you, through a microphone of some sort into your computer and onto a digital audio workstation.
DaveIs which is where you're going to make it into what it needs to be to get out into the world, which is an MP3 file or a WAV file.
DaveOkay, an MP3 file.
DaveI'm sorry, MP4.
DaveWhat is an MP4 versus an MP3?
DaveAn MP3 is an audio encoded format.
DaveAn MP4 is a digital multimedia container that can store a range of data including video, audio and text.
DaveSo unless if you're doing video with your podcast, you want it to be an MP4.
DaveIf you're doing a audio only podcast, you want it to be an MP3.
DaveNow, a WAV file, a WAVE or WAV format audio file is a file format for storing audio on personal computers.
DaveOkay, is that confusing?
DaveYeah.
DaveA lot of the programs now will download to your computer.
DaveWhen you're all done and you're exporting out, and we're going to get into terminology today too, a little bit.
DaveBut basically, if you are, when you export out a lot of the hosts wanted in an MP3, a lot of the DAWs will want to send it out as a wave.
DaveA waveform is a larger file.
DaveOkay, here we go.
DaveSo I did my research here.
DaveSorry, I didn't do this before.
DaveMP3 files do not retain all the data from the original audio and are comparatively smaller.
DaveSo to give you an idea, a three minute audio clip in a WAV format will have a file size of 30 to 40 megabytes.
DaveWhen you convert it to an MP3 file, the same clip will be reduced to 3 to 5 megabytes, showing a compression rate of about 90%.
DaveNow, is a WAVE file great?
DaveA WAVE file is great because it has everything you've got when you export it.
DaveNot saying the MP3 file does not, but it depends on what you're trying to do.
DaveRight, so let's get back to this.
DaveOkay, let's.
DaveLet me get rid of that.
DaveLet me bring that back up.
DaveOkay, so folks, I wanted to talk, to give you a basic idea of what happens now.
DaveI want to talk to you about microphones and computers and dos digital audio workstations.
DaveDo you have to have a computer to make a podcast?
DaveAbsolutely not.
DaveYou can record yourself with your phone, your tablet or your computer.
DaveI also have, and there's a lot of them out there.
DaveZoom makes a bunch of products where you can record to.
DaveI have a Zoom H4N Pro which allows me to plug a couple of microphones in and it records, then it records to a, an SSD card or I have a H4, I have a.
DaveAnyways, I have a single one too.
DaveAnd it just records to a card but it doesn't allow you to put a big microphone in, but a regular one.
DaveBut if you take your phone and put in your head but your headphones that you got from Apple or from wherever you purchased your phone, don't mind me, I have Apple.
DaveI don't know a whole lot about Android phones anymore, but originally you came with headphones that were wired.
DaveYou want to be wired.
DaveThere's no latency or less latency through a wired headset microphone than there is through wireless.
DaveLatency is delay.
DaveOkay.
DaveIn basic terms, latency is just the delay between you saying it and it getting recorded into your daw.
DaveNow you're saying, well, is there room on my phone to record into a dawn you.
DaveThere might be.
DaveThere are programs that you can download like Riverside FM and other ones like that that will allow you to record to them through your micro, you know, through your phone you can record into your video or I'm sorry, your audio memos.
DaveRight.
DaveMy iPhone has audio memos or voice recordings.
DaveJust click play and start talking.
DaveYou can then, you know, save that file and send it over to your computer.
DaveAm I going to explain to you today how to do that today?
DaveNo, I'm not.
DaveI'm going to put.
DaveI'm going to create a video though here shortly, probably this weekend to show you how to do that because it's not hard.
DaveBut I'm just saying you don't have to have big, big fancy equipment.
DaveYou don't have to have two and three hundred dollar microphones to start a podcast.
DaveYou can start it with your phone.
DaveYou really can.
DaveIf you don't have a cord or head, a wired headphones or you Know, with a microphone on it.
DaveJust start talking.
DaveOkay?
DaveWe can clean it up for you.
DaveIt will need to be cleaned up.
DaveI want to tell you something about recording too, right now, and I'm going to repeat this as often as I can on every podcast.
DaveYou need to be in a quiet place.
DavePlease do not do this while you're driving your car.
DaveOkay?
DaveIt's very, very hard to get rid of all that road noise.
DaveCan it be done?
DaveYes, it can be done.
DaveIs it easy?
DaveNo, it's not easy.
DaveAnd do you want to take that kind of time on your podcast?
DaveNow?
DaveI don't know how long you think editing takes, but let me tell you this.
DaveWhen I first started five, oh, five years ago or more, I started out with a 15 minute podcast and it took me two and a half hours to edit it.
DaveIt won't take you that long.
DaveI was as gray.
DaveI'm not gray.
DaveI was green at it.
DaveI didn't know what I was doing.
DaveI learned on my own.
DaveI learned through videos on YouTube.
DaveI learned through listening to other podcasters talk about it or show things about it.
DaveAnd it's become.
DaveDoesn't need to take that long, doesn't that the technology today is so much better that you can honest to goodness record for 15, 20 minutes, a half an hour, an hour, whatever you want.
DaveIt only takes you half an hour, 45 minutes, maybe an hour to edit it.
DaveIf you need to edit at all.
DaveYou may want to be one of these people that say, I'm live here.
DaveJust like being live.
DaveYou can do that.
DaveIt's okay.
DaveIt doesn't matter.
DaveIt really doesn't matter.
DaveOkay, so editing does not talk about editing today.
DaveEditing is.
DaveWell, we got to a little bit.
DaveEditing comes with your daw.
DaveBut let's talk about different kinds of DoS and computers, all right?
DaveI am on a Mac.
DaveI also own a Dell.
DaveIt sits right here on my desk too.
DaveAnd I used to record on that, but as time goes by, the fan gets louder and it comes in more often and it's hard to get it far enough away that you don't really hear that.
DaveI use it for.
DaveFor things, but not for much.
DaveWhere my MacBook doesn't have a fan, so I never hear it.
DaveCan't hear something that ain't there, right?
DaveSo if you're on a Mac or if you're on a Windows PC or if you're on a Linux PC, doesn't matter.
DaveYou can do this.
DaveIt's just as easy.
DaveAlmost all these programs will work on either one, I'll let you know.
DaveSo I pulled up a couple of lists.
DaveFree Dawes.
DaveSome are free, some are not.
DaveOkay, Some of them have 14 day free trials, some of them have, you know, free forever.
DaveSome have minimal costs, some are paid by the month, some are, you know, yearly only.
DaveAnd you know, some are native to your computer.
DaveNow if you're a Mac user of any, at any, of any type, any type, whether that's a, an iPhone, an iPad, any Apple computer, you are already blessed to have a free program called GarageBand.
DaveOkay?
DaveGarage Band is Apple based.
DaveIt's an Apple computer, it's an Apple product.
DaveYou can't get it on anything but a Mac or an Apple device.
DaveAnd I'm sorry, but that's one of the ways I started this podcast was well, five minutes of gray hair Dave as well as living in God's rhyme.
DaveWe're all started on a Mac.
DaveMy journey online was started with Adele.
DaveBut anyway, I believe also 5 living or memories from the mouse was started on the Dell.
DaveBut so you can do it.
DaveIt doesn't matter.
DaveI was just using different programs.
DaveSo GarageBand is easy to use, but I want to get you into something that's just as easy and just as quick and it's not hard to use at all.
DaveAnd it's free.
DaveFirst one I want to talk to you about is Audacity A U D A C I T Y.
DaveIt's a free open source dawn that's perfect for beginners.
DaveIt offers all the basic tools you'll need to record and edit your podcast without any cost.
DaveIt gives you options for multi tracks, it gives you options for ed, you know, it gives you basic editing tools and it supports plugins.
DavePlugins are things you may buy or use and you add it to it like equalizers or if you want to have, let's just say sound effects.
DaveWell, sometimes you have to buy those sound effects or you have to get a program to create those sound effects.
DaveYou can download it and it will go into that daw.
DaveIt's great for beginners and those looking for free audio, you know, digital audio workstations.
DaveOkay, so that's GarageBand and that's Audacity.
DaveNow there is Adobe Audition.
DaveAdobe Audition is a professional grade DAW that offers a comprehensive set of tools for products, recording, editing and mixing.
DaveI think of Adobe Audition as a high powered DAW that has way more than the very new person needs.
DaveIn the description of it, it says it's best for experienced podcasters seeking advanced audio editing capabilities and I agree with that.
DaveI wouldn't mess with this if you were brand new.
DaveIf you are, you already know what audio engineering is and you've worked in a DAW before you jump in.
DaveGo right ahead.
DaveAnother one that's free out there again also is and I just downloaded it today because I saw it.
DaveIt's called Ocean Audio.
DaveO C E N A U D I O OSINT Audio is a lightweight free DAW that provides essential audio editing features.
DaveIt's ideal for quick edits and it's user friendly for beginners.
DaveIt gives you real time previews of effects, multi selection for delicate editing.
DaveIt's free.
DaveIt's best for beginners needing straightforward audio editing tools.
DaveIt even has spectrograph editing which I paid a lot of money for.
DaveRx10 by izotope I could have just gone to this one and got a bunch of it too.
DaveOkay.
DaveAnyways, I played with it a little bit.
DaveI like it when it comes to free for and it's good.
DaveAnd it's good for Apple products as well as Windows products and Linux.
DaveThere will be links in the, in the show notes to all these if it's something you want to check out.
DaveA couple other ones I don't suggest yet, but maybe there's Pro Tools.
DavePro Tools has a subscription price for about $30 a month.
DavePro Tools has been the industry standard for years and years.
DaveIt has a very steep learning curve, folks.
DaveI used to use it when I first started with my, my Dell and yeah, it has a learning curve, but it's good.
DaveIt'll do everything for you.
DaveI mean it'll do everything you need it to do.
DaveI.
DaveI loved it but I hated it all at the same time.
DaveAnd it says right here in.
DaveI'm going to put a link to this blog too by Wundercraft.
DaveIt says it's best for professionals seeking top tier audio production software.
DaveOkay, Studio One is out there and it's.
DaveIt's an annual fee of $100.
DaveIt's a balance between features and affordability.
DaveAnd there's a couple other ones.
DaveLet's see what this other one shows me.
DaveThere's a couple of.
DaveThis one didn't get Cubase is one waveform Free is is interesting.
DaveI personally don't like it.
DaveI mean I'm going to have to leave it there because I really.
DaveI don't know why I don't like it.
DaveI've looked at it.
DaveI've tried it.
DaveIt's.
DaveIt's more confusing to me than Pro Tools and maybe because of its simplicity, I don't know.
DaveAnyways, let's move on.
DaveAnother one out there is Studio One.
DaveStudio One is.
DaveYou gotta buy it.
DaveOkay.
DaveIt's not that much, but it's not bad.
DaveAnother one you might like is Podium Free.
DaveIt's.
DaveIt allows VSTs.
DaveThere's no track limitation, it's well designed, it's customizable, it's Windows only.
DaveAh, a Windows exclusive.
DaveDaw.
DaveThere you go.
DaveNow you go.
DaveYou can go out against Some people with GarageBand or prod logic Pro and say haha, I've got my own too.
DaveYeah, that's fun.
DaveOh, there's a lot of editing going to go on in this one folks.
DaveI'm sorry.
DaveI want you to look into Soundbridge though.
DaveThere will be a link to that too.
DaveMagic's Music Maker.
DaveA Magic's Music Maker is a Windows program again and it is very very robust.
DaveBut it is oriented towards beginners.
DaveIt's easy to start.
DaveIt's got intuitive file management, there's an eight track limit.
DaveIt's not ideal for a large project, but it is Windows only.
DaveSo there's two for Windows only.
DaveAnd you like that.
DaveLuna is out there.
DaveLuna is a.
DaveIt's another Mac only one.
DaveI played with it for a while folks and I got frustrated.
DaveAnd if I'm going to get frustrated and I know what I'm doing, I don't want you to do it.
DaveWaveform Free is for Mac os, Windows, Linux.
DaveAnyways, that's what we're at with with Dawes.
DaveI want you to understand if you're going to go get a free daw, why not try two different ones?
DaveOkay?
DaveJust my opinion.
DaveTwo or three, if you've got the room on your computer to do this, try a couple different ones.
DaveAll right.
DaveI would suggest you download.
DaveDownload Hindenburg.
DaveIt has a free trial.
DaveOkay.
DaveDefinitely download Audacity doc.
DaveYou know audacity.org it's audacity teams.org and then also I would download Ocean Audio.
DaveI think that you might be very happy with that one.
DaveTo be a hundred percent honest with you.
DaveI am.
DaveI'm very very.
DaveGosh, I am.
DaveI'm impressed.
DaveI really really am.
DaveNow if you want to start out buying one, have fun.
DaveThat's great.
DaveI think it's a fantastic idea.
DaveIf you are a Windows Only person right now and that's all you're ever going to use is Windows, I thought that that's all I'd ever use is Windows.
DaveExcuse me.
DaveUntil I saw what a Mac can do.
DaveI'm on an M1 chip right now and I just got all excited because the M4s are coming out and this week and I'm excited about the M4s.
DaveI'm going to upgrade.
DaveJust trying to decide which way I want to go.
DaveDo I want to go to a Mac Mini now because they're coming out with 16 gig as normal, or do I want to go to a MacBook Pro again?
DaveDon't know.
DaveMacBook Air might just be fine enough for me now.
DaveI don't know.
DaveBut anyways, that's what's going on here.
DaveI know this may not be moving along quick enough for you and if it's not, please contact me on my on my website boomer podcasters.com there's a little microphone in the bottom right hand corner where you can leave me a message or you can go to the contact me page and say, hey Dave, you know, this is.
DaveI want to know more quicker and I'll help you with that.
DaveBut let's, let's just spend a little bit of time looking at these daws and playing with them.
DaveYou can play with them with your computer audio and not worry about it.
DaveOr you can plug in your, you know, your, your headphones from your telephone, you know, your cell phone and use that for a while.
DaveTry it that way before you go out and spend money on microphones.
DaveBecause there's a couple of different kinds of microphones.
DaveThere's dynamic and there's compressor and which do you need?
DaveAnd you can with one you need extra things like an audio interface.
DaveWith others, they plug right into your computer.
DaveYou know, there's XLR microphones and there's USB microphones.
DaveAnd then there's one that I'm using right now that we'll use either way.
DaveNow I'm using right now a dynamic Samson Q2U.
DaveIt's I think I paid $69 for it, $68 for it on Amazon.
DaveI'll put a link in the computer or on in the show notes.
DaveI also have used a bunch of condenser microphones, one from mxl, one from focusrite, which was very, really, really nice.
DaveI want to tell you something right up front.
DaveIf there's a lot of noise in your room, I'm talking no carpeting and no dressing for sound deadening because you want some sound deadening.
DaveYou don't want your voice bouncing off the walls and coming back and echoing at you.
DaveThen don't use a condenser microphone.
DaveUse a dynamic A dynamic microphone is what you see most of the people on television using.
DaveAnd like, if they're record, if they're into music, you see how they're so close to the microphone.
DaveThat's because the microphone doesn't pick up things all the way around.
DaveIt picks up things right in front of it.
DaveIt's a much tighter cone of what it's doing of what it's listening for.
DaveAnd a compressor gets you the whole room or whatever's happening in the house.
DaveYou'll hear it and then you're gonna have to edit the crud out of it.
DaveI don't want you to have to do that.
DaveSo my suggestion, it depends on you and your personality, is to start with a dynamic.
DaveYou can go to Amazon and buy 20, 30, 40, $50 microphones.
DaveDo not, please do not go out and buy a blue Yeti.
DaveIf you don't know how to use a blue Yeti.
DaveYou don't set it up right.
DaveIt gives you terrible audio and you'll hate it.
DaveYou'll absolutely hate it.
DaveDon't go out and buy assure SM7B or SM7BD yet, because do you need it yet?
DaveNow, if you know what you're doing and you just, you're just listening to me to get some more tips and tricks and you want to be on an SM7B or an SM7V, more power to you.
DaveI just don't want to see you going out and spending a whole lot of money until you're sure this is what you want to do.
DaveOkay.
DaveYou need to get your story out there, and it's easiest to do in a podcast, am I right?
DaveYeah, you're listening to one.
DaveIt's entertaining, it can be fun, it can be educational, it can be musical, it can be anything you want it to be.
DaveSo it's got to be what you want it to be.
DaveI don't want to force you into doing one way or the other.
DaveI just want you to.
DaveI want you to start it and try it and not give up on it because you got frustrated.
DaveCome back to here, Dave.
DaveYou're an idiot.
DaveYou.
DaveThis is not for me.
DaveIf it's not for you, it's not for you.
DaveI'm okay with that.
DaveThat's why I don't want you to spend a lot of money at it in the beginning.
DaveBut I'm going to help you with some of the editing down the road.
DaveAnd it's going to be important that you subscribe to my YouTube channel once I get it all up and Running because that's where the videos are going to live about a little bit about the editing and the difference in.
DaveThe difference in daws and the difference in microphones to start out with.
DaveSo while you're looking at that, while you're looking at those audio.
DaveThe digital audio workstations, think about which ones you might want to try.
DaveDownload a couple of them because they're free and almost all of them have trials.
DaveOkay, we're going to talk about microphones next week because I think it's really important now to talk about microphones.
DaveAnd I really, really hope that you have been trying to decide what genre you want for your podcast.
DaveYou know, what do you want to be like me, just sitting here being educational, telling you what to do?
DaveYou want to be funny?
DaveYou want to be comical?
DaveDo you want to be habit about music, golf, whatever, true crime?
DaveDo you want it to be narrative?
DaveWhat do you want to do?
DaveThat's what I'm asking.
DaveThat's all I'm asking, that you have some kind of an idea.
DaveAnd once you have that idea, here's the rest of your homework.
DaveOkay?
DaveTry and write out and put it on your computer, put it on a piece of paper.
DaveIt doesn't matter.
DaveWrite out what ideas you think you want to do.
DaveTalk to your.
DaveTalk to your spouse, talk to your friends, talk to people you trust and say, you know, would you listen to something like this if I put it out there and see what they say?
DaveIf they say, yeah, I'd like to hear you talk about that.
DaveOr they say, yeah, well, then they're just jealous that you're thinking about it and they haven't yet.
DaveBut think about it.
DaveIt will be fun.
DaveSo think about that.
DaveGet yourself an idea of what it is you want to do.
DavePlease, please, please decide what you want to do.
DaveThen I want you to write out and like an outline of what you would like it to be.
DaveYou know, I'd like episode one.
DaveI want to talk about what is golf?
DaveNumber two is what, what kind of clubs do you need?
DaveYou know, number three, what's the best golf balls to have?
DaveYou know, number four, whatever.
DaveGo to that.
DaveAnd then just start writing out and then start off with the outline and then add some.
DaveSome bullet points underneath.
DaveOkay, do that for me and then let me know if you've come up with any.
DaveIf you got any questions.
DaveAgain, don't forget my website is Boomer Podcasters Calm Boomer podcasters dot com.
DaveOkay, Go to the Contact Me page.
DaveGo to the right hand, bottom corner.
DaveIt's a little green microphone.
DaveTap on that.
DaveYou have to put your email address in there.
DaveI don't give your email address away, folks.
DaveI'm keeping it.
DaveI'm so, I'm, you know, I'm selfish.
DaveI'm not giving it out and you can't pay me for it.
DaveSo.
DaveSo on behalf of gray haired Dave, a couple of things.
DaveIf you know somebody who doesn't know what a podcast is, doesn't know how to find one, what to listen to, where to listen to it, on me, a favor, show them for me, please.
DaveAlso don't forget, go out and smile at somebody today, folks.
DaveYou're going to make their day.
DaveSo on behalf of gray haired Dave, who is having a weird day, you all have a good one and I will talk to you next week.
DaveBye bye.
DaveSo if you stuck around this long, thank you folks.
DaveI really, really appreciate it.
DaveI have cut out approximately seven and a half minutes of goof ups.
DaveI'm going to, I think eventually I'm going to make a reel about my outtakes just for this show alone.
DaveI hope you enjoyed it, folks.
DaveHave a great day and if you listen to this, leave me a message and say, hey, I waited all the way to the end and I got the fact that you made all those mistakes.
DaveYou should hear what I cut out, folks.
DaveI couldn't talk or the dark.
DaveHave a great day and bye.