Take Joel's sort of framework around case studies and take
Justin Simon:the whole framework around distribution first and the idea of distribution
Justin Simon:first mash them together and you have a crazy good strategy to create
Justin Simon:this content.
Joel:Let's say for example, you're trying to break into a new
Joel:industry and yes, you've got your first case study in that industry.
Joel:Well, here is what kind of mapping this out could look like, how you
Joel:could leverage it across the quarter.
Joel:I think number one, okay, cold outreach.
Joel:A shoe in bake that into some of your cold outreach messages, maybe
Joel:try attaching a one sheet test out.
Joel:If you've got it, you know, a little 30 second video or something that
Joel:goes along with a follow up, but use that in your cold outreach and use
Joel:that to kind of test out as Legion.
Joel:You can also deploy these really nicely in social ads.
Joel:So taking that piece and, and maybe it's a LinkedIn carousel that now
Joel:you sponsor and it keys into the pain points or, or that industry.
Joel:And now you've got this really succinct version that I can either
Joel:click on and, and go ask for a demo or have a conversation.
Joel:Or maybe it pushes me to like a resource or a checklist or an asset,
Joel:but you can deploy it that way.
Joel:Another way you can nearly immediately deploy any story you have is remarketing.
Joel:So not just.
Joel:You know, ads themselves, but remarketing ads, we've seen clients be really
Joel:successful in if they have campaigns, they're running, someone comes in,
Joel:checks out a landing page instead of following up with like a push to
Joel:demo or a call us now, remind them of the value with a story over time.
Joel:It's not as aggressive a tactic, but it can really, really work because
Joel:it's kind of this story selling.
Joel:Uh, you might bake that case study into a newsletter.
Joel:You might take that and bake it into a blurb that goes out.
Joel:If you have a quarterly or monthly newsletter, you might.
Joel:You know, bring it back once or twice through that you can then, you know,
Joel:think about if you have permission to do it, maybe it's a Q and a style blog post.
Joel:You've got this, you know, deeper dive piece that you've got in your resources
Joel:section, but maybe it's a Q and a style post on your blog where it's an interview
Joel:with X person about why challenge and you take all of the quotes from the interview
Joel:and mash it up a little bit differently.
Joel:Now you've got a blog post that you can go and deploy if you captured
Joel:video, kind of what you were talking about with the cut content, right?
Joel:Taking little snippets about the pain points, try those out in ads, try those
Joel:out in social posts, taking little snippets about the ROI, again, same
Joel:thing, try those out in ads, try those out in newsletters, posts, embedded on
Joel:your site, and leverage in that way.
Joel:So there's lots of things you can do near immediately when you have this story.
Joel:But what's also really exciting is let's say you go through the year.
Joel:And you've captured the four stories.
Joel:Now you've got this body of stories that you can start to build on too.
Joel:So one of the things that gets overlooked, but is really valuable
Joel:is things like compendiums.
Joel:We, we see clients doing nuclear decks where they combine stories
Joel:into one asset that kind of has.
Joel:Some high level quotes and value and sales loves those being able to send those out.
Joel:You can do kind of a yearly roundup, you know, here's the
Joel:biggest stories from this year.
Joel:The biggest ROI and use that as kind of a new piece of content.
Joel:You can do a highlight reel style of video where you take
Joel:the best quotes from each story.
Joel:And now you've got, you know, four different people all talking
Joel:about the pains being resolved or the outcomes being resolved.
Joel:So there's some near immediate kind of value with individual
Joel:assets that then builds into these.
Joel:Bigger assets.
Joel:Once you've got a few under your belt, that's all pretty attainable short term.
Joel:Once you've captured this, got approval for it
Justin Simon:and so on.
Joel:And what I love about distribution first and the whole mentality
Joel:you're describing is that matters all the more with case studies.
Joel:That proactive thinking, that beginning with the end in
Joel:mind because it's high stakes.
Joel:You don't get a mulligan.
Joel:You're, you, you're asking for someone else's time and someone else's reputation.
Joel:If you, you know, build something internally, if, if it's just a piece
Joel:that your team has written or what have you, most of the time, you can go, okay,
Joel:we didn't get this, but there's some way of us going back and amending that.
Joel:With case studies, that's incredibly hard to do.
Joel:Any interview based content, that's really hard to do.
Joel:And that whole distribution first mentality is something For example, you
Joel:know, that, that we apply ourselves, we had this amazing opportunity where, you
Joel:know, we, we worked with a company in the healthcare supply chain, uh, sort of
Joel:niche in, in industry, amazing company.
Joel:And at a previous conference, they'd kind of just set up this video
Joel:interview booth and captured whatever they could and got tons of content,
Joel:but then when it comes time to, okay, how do we go and leverage this?
Joel:There's a lot of what you're saying there's regret or an off only we had asked
Joel:this question Oh only we had captured this type of piece, right and that
Joel:distribution first mentality that you're so tuned into that You're spearheading
Joel:that you're really championing for clients and for people in the space is so
Joel:important because when we adopted that for ourselves It changed, you know, we took
Joel:that approach to the event that we were involved in and we could map out questions
Joel:and we could go, great, these questions, they're going to, they're going to help us
Joel:support the, the, the post session videos and the newsletters that go after these
Joel:questions, they're going to help us, you know, transform this into specific pain
Joel:points for specific industries, these questions, you They're going to help us
Joel:get by and to do this again next year with the next people who have to go through
Joel:their legal and PR and all of that.
Joel:So that intentional planning, that thinking, that distribution first
Joel:mentality, whether it's case studies or anything is really important, but
Joel:especially customer driven content because you just don't get that mulligan.
Joel:You don't get a do over in most cases.
Joel:It's you got to go in thinking and I love that proactive kind of templated.
Joel:Thinking through what do we really need and how do we want to use it?
Joel:How do
Joel:we want to distribute it?