Hey everyone, welcome back.
Speaker:This is week 50 of Creative.
Speaker:Come follow me for the New Testament.
Speaker:And this week we're going to be in our second of our three
Speaker:weeks in the book of Revelation.
Speaker:And this is a longer one.
Speaker:We cover nine chapters this week, so we're going to go from
Speaker:six all the way through 14.
Speaker:By the end of this week's chapters, we're going to be talking about Basically,
Speaker:the gathering of the wheat and the tares and that phase that occurs where
Speaker:time is up and things need to change.
Speaker:All of the chapters before 14 talk about how many times he
Speaker:reaches after his children.
Speaker:I gotta tell you, one of the things that was hard for me this week
Speaker:in my study was, My heart wants to be in the Christmas story.
Speaker:Maybe it's because of the First Presidency devotional.
Speaker:Like, I found myself aching to set down the dragons and the fires and
Speaker:the storms and just focus in on the beautiful miracle of the Christmas story.
Speaker:What's interesting to me, you guys, is over the course of study, as I pushed
Speaker:myself to try to understand the book of Revelation and understand what John
Speaker:was trying to teach me, the more I came to appreciate the Christmas story.
Speaker:Because I really think this is why he came the way he came.
Speaker:In fact, this week you're going to see things, well, you'll
Speaker:see these vivid contrasts.
Speaker:You're going to see the adversary show up With pomp and fear and storms and
Speaker:then you're gonna see the Savior as the lamb And I feel like that's what
Speaker:the Christmas story teaches us as well in order to save us from all of this
Speaker:Destruction that is coming the Savior comes as this quiet powerful lamb and
Speaker:that's the message of these chapters it is a Well, I guess the verse that really
Speaker:kind of came back to me as I was studying the most is what the Savior teaches about
Speaker:When he's looking over his children, especially those who don't choose his
Speaker:path He has this ache and he says things like how oft would I have gathered
Speaker:you as a hen gathereth her chicks?
Speaker:What John is teaching us this week you guys is why we need to find refuge under
Speaker:those wings Because there are great storms coming and the Savior knows about
Speaker:those storms and he offers us this refuge in his gospel And he invites all to
Speaker:come under his wings But what I think is really powerful about that metaphor
Speaker:is there's nothing to hold you there You have to choose every day to stay
Speaker:in that refuge and if you choose it you have the protection that he promises
Speaker:and if you wander out you're exposed to the storms and to the distractions
Speaker:and the fear that's outside of it.
Speaker:And I think that's what John's trying to help us understand.
Speaker:I think he wants us to see the gift that the Savior offered as he gave
Speaker:himself as a shelter and refuge for us.
Speaker:And he's just urging us to come inside.
Speaker:And I honestly think it's It will strengthen your testimony of the Christmas
Speaker:story as you jump into these chapters.
Speaker:I promise, it's worth your time.
Speaker:So grab your scriptures, grab your notes.
Speaker:It's time to get started.
Speaker:Before you jump into six, it might help you get your bearings
Speaker:at the very end of five.
Speaker:Because remember last week, we left off on sort of a cliffhanger.
Speaker:You know, the Savior had just willingly taken the book out of the
Speaker:God the Father's right hand and the whole of heaven celebrated, right?
Speaker:They rejoice in song because he's willing to open these seals.
Speaker:He's the only one that's authorized to do it and he, he chooses to do it.
Speaker:In chapter 6, you see those seals begin to be opened by the Savior.
Speaker:In fact, that's what it says in verse 1, And I saw when the Lamb opened
Speaker:one of the seals, and I heard it as it were the noise of thunder, one of
Speaker:the four beasts saying, Come and see.
Speaker:So this is John still in that visionary experience and he's seeing the Savior.
Speaker:Open up those seals.
Speaker:What I thought was so powerful about this you guys is what comes out So what's
Speaker:interesting is over the course of these seals being opened Devastation comes out.
Speaker:You learn later in the chapter that also prophets come out and
Speaker:good comes out, but in these first nine Verses or so it's all bad.
Speaker:These Horses come out.
Speaker:So the horses have a rider on them.
Speaker:They're all different colored horses and they represent Sort of the awfulness
Speaker:of men on the earth that each of those seals represents a thousand years
Speaker:and during those thousand years and beyond it Devastation sort of unfolds.
Speaker:So at first you're gonna see a white horse that represents conquest this
Speaker:is sort of the natural man taking over and dominating different landscapes
Speaker:this idea of like conquering viciously other locations that rolls into the
Speaker:second horse that is a red horse.
Speaker:Yeah, this is the one that represents warfare because he's got a sword.
Speaker:The writer has a sword and it represents the blood that comes from these battles
Speaker:and these wars over, you know, power and authority and areas of control.
Speaker:Then you see two other horses come out, the first of which is a horse that comes
Speaker:out black, and this is, the rider has, you know, those, like, scales, like
Speaker:the scales of justice, sort of, and on it he has food, and he's measuring
Speaker:things, and it's this idea of famine that comes, almost like you always see
Speaker:on the heels of Men who seek conquest and power, then you get war, and the next
Speaker:thing in the line is famine that comes.
Speaker:The land itself is decimated in these efforts to conquer and to control.
Speaker:And then the fourth horse is this pale horse, which is this sickly
Speaker:green kind of color, and it represents the pestilence that follows.
Speaker:The disease and the damage to the land, and all of these are these repercussions
Speaker:that come from mankind being.
Speaker:Allowed to war.
Speaker:And I guess what I found myself.
Speaker:I found myself thinking over and over again How hard it must have been
Speaker:for the Savior to open those seals.
Speaker:It's he's someone who created this beautiful Planet he created
Speaker:this world and all things that are in it and he knows when he opens
Speaker:that seal Those horsemen come out.
Speaker:I mean, not literally, but like, figuratively, war comes out, and bloodshed
Speaker:comes out, and men who hate each other, and abuse each other, that, it must have
Speaker:been so hard for him to open that seal.
Speaker:I found myself thinking, Well, you know, I mean, in a very small way,
Speaker:if you had that experience where your kids finally get their license and you
Speaker:know, you've got to give them the keys.
Speaker:But what's hard is, you know, as soon as you hand off those keys, if
Speaker:it's not this month or a year from now, at some point in the future,
Speaker:they're going to have an accident.
Speaker:You just know it, right?
Speaker:Like it's just bound to happen.
Speaker:They'll hit a mailbox, they'll hit another car, they'll, something is
Speaker:bound to go wrong and you almost don't want to give them the keys, but the
Speaker:only way they can become a driver at all and learn what they need to learn
Speaker:is for you to take that risk, right?
Speaker:And I feel like that's kind of the Savior on this cosmic level.
Speaker:He's, he knows how this all has to go.
Speaker:And he's saying the only way for me to allow men to progress the way I want them
Speaker:to, the way they're intended to, is to create a world where they have choices.
Speaker:What I love is, in addition to all these hard, devastating things
Speaker:that unfold, you also have this promise of guides and prophets.
Speaker:So if you flip the page, in verse 9, it says, And when he had opened the fifth
Speaker:seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God,
Speaker:and for the testimony which they held.
Speaker:And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and
Speaker:true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Speaker:This is a hard visual, right?
Speaker:These are martyrs for the faith.
Speaker:These are people who were killed in that onslaught of
Speaker:warfare and greed and struggle.
Speaker:But what's powerful to me is, that means there were prophets all that
Speaker:time, when the Lord unleashed and allowed all that hard to come out.
Speaker:He also gave profits.
Speaker:It reminds me a lot about what we know about the Garden of Eden, that
Speaker:when they were, you know, cast out and they had to go into this hard place
Speaker:where they would experience hard.
Speaker:He also blessed them with teachers and with tools and with understandings
Speaker:to keep them connected to him.
Speaker:They come packaged together, this idea of understanding things and growing in
Speaker:the gospel, they always come together.
Speaker:So I actually find hope in that visual of these martyrs coming close
Speaker:together, having this fellowship, and pleading for the time to rush
Speaker:so that the Savior can come again.
Speaker:I find hope in that visual.
Speaker:When you go a little further, you see The exchange that happens.
Speaker:I just think this is a powerful reminder of what happens when
Speaker:you give your life to God.
Speaker:This mortal life.
Speaker:Because all these martyrs offered themselves to the Lord and what they
Speaker:get in exchange are these white robes.
Speaker:So if you look at 11, and white robes were given unto every one of them and it
Speaker:was unto them as they should rest for a little season until their fellow servants
Speaker:also and their brethren that should be killed they were should be fulfilled.
Speaker:This fifth seal represents the time of John himself, right?
Speaker:So this is that that time of the apostles who are trying to take the gospel
Speaker:out and are martyred in the process.
Speaker:They are even up until like restoration times.
Speaker:I think you get a lot of this feel of those who give themselves for truth.
Speaker:And I love the exchange that's offered because I think when you live in a sin
Speaker:sick world like we do today and like so many others have in the history
Speaker:of men, you get stained, you know, in this effort to teach and to help and to
Speaker:lift, you get stained in the process.
Speaker:And what he promises is if you come to me, I exchange all of that.
Speaker:I give you these white robes.
Speaker:I give you a chance to rest for a season and to enter into my, you know, refuge.
Speaker:That's his promise.
Speaker:Then he talks about the sixth seal being open.
Speaker:So this is that last seal before The end of times, right?
Speaker:This is the time that we're in today, to some extent, and it stretches for a
Speaker:long, long period, but that's, that's his promise, that there's going to be
Speaker:this time of apostasy and a time of restoration that will come, and all of
Speaker:that's sort of implied in the sixth seal.
Speaker:He also talks about things that will change in this time.
Speaker:It's kind of interesting, you can go into these and read them very
Speaker:literally about the sun being darkened.
Speaker:It says the sun became black as sathcloth of hair, the moon became
Speaker:as blood, the stars fell from heaven, islands move around, mountains move.
Speaker:I don't know what all of those symbols mean specifically.
Speaker:But remember last week when we were talking about the stereogram, that magic
Speaker:eye puzzle that sometimes you have to like let your eyes settle for a second?
Speaker:For me what all of these verses together mean is things that have
Speaker:always been constant or agreed upon by society or understood now shift.
Speaker:You know where for thousands of years people sort of agreed on
Speaker:moral rules and things that help a society grow and get along.
Speaker:Where most people agreed on things about like You know who you are and
Speaker:where you came from and all those things in this in this final dispensation
Speaker:of time They start to be more fluid.
Speaker:I just feel like that's our time you guys There's a great talk from Elder
Speaker:Lund where he said he was talking about the youth and how they have to withstand
Speaker:these shifting Moral tectonics of our time and that's what I felt like I could
Speaker:see in chapter 6 these moral tectonics of things that were always understood
Speaker:Now are fluid And what he promises is if you hold tight to his doctrine and
Speaker:his truth, you will be firmly planted.
Speaker:That's what we learn in Helaman, that no matter what these crazy winds
Speaker:throw at us, if we are grounded in the gospel, we have, we have safe harbor.
Speaker:And what happens if you don't is what you see at the end of that chapter,
Speaker:where those who are kings and rulers and those who are used to hiding in
Speaker:the hills, and they become exposed in all this shift and They begin to fear.
Speaker:So you'll see that at the end of chapter six.
Speaker:One of the things I really liked about John's writing in these chapters is it
Speaker:almost feels like the tide going in and out as you read because sometimes things
Speaker:get really intense and scary and hard and then he gives you a break and he like
Speaker:the tide goes out for a second and you can catch your breath and you learn hope
Speaker:filled things and then the tide comes back and you learn more hard like you're
Speaker:gonna feel that Push and pull throughout these chapters chapter 7 is one of those
Speaker:areas where the tide is out and you have a chance to Just soak in some Sun.
Speaker:So enjoy chapter 7.
Speaker:Here are some things that I love first off He talks about the destroying
Speaker:angels that need to come so they're almost on the brink of you know Wiping
Speaker:out the wicked things of the world.
Speaker:You know how we have we know that has to happen That's what the wheat and
Speaker:tares parable is all about that There will be a burning that occurs but
Speaker:just like we learned about in the Book of Mormon with Jacob 5 Remember he
Speaker:talked about the olive trees and how the servant comes repeatedly and says
Speaker:like let's just try one more thing.
Speaker:Let's just let's try that.
Speaker:Let's move these trees here.
Speaker:Let's graft things in like there is this constant Let's just try
Speaker:one more thing to warn remember.
Speaker:This is the savior constantly seeking to Bring more under his wings, that
Speaker:refuge that comes in his gospel.
Speaker:He wants as many as possible to come and that's what you're
Speaker:going to see in this chapter.
Speaker:Because basically what happens is he stops the destroying angels and says, another
Speaker:angel comes and says, we need to gather.
Speaker:We need to gather the elect first.
Speaker:The symbol that they use of those who are righteous is
Speaker:having a mark on their foreheads.
Speaker:I really don't think you have to take this literally.
Speaker:I think there's a lot of different ways to read it.
Speaker:For me, the most comfortable was this just means you're taking his name upon you.
Speaker:Now, there's a lot of good, you know, if you go back into the Old Testament and
Speaker:you can read about having holiness to the Lord on the high priest, you know,
Speaker:hat that they wore in the tabernacle.
Speaker:There's a lot of cool references to this, but I really think this is very simple.
Speaker:It means Are you making covenants and keeping them?
Speaker:Are you staying tight and tied to the Lord?
Speaker:If you are, then you have him in your mind.
Speaker:You have him, your mind directs your actions.
Speaker:You have him with you all the time.
Speaker:So that's what he's alluding to.
Speaker:It's got cool Passover imagery.
Speaker:Because remember this happened in the Old Testament when the plagues had all
Speaker:come through and you get to that final plague that's going to kill all the
Speaker:firstborn and they have to mark their doorposts with the blood of the Lamb.
Speaker:Like, that's that same idea.
Speaker:He's saying, We need to go and we need to mark so that those who are.
Speaker:living righteously are, have refuge.
Speaker:Remember, that's what Zion is.
Speaker:It's a refuge.
Speaker:It's a place of gathering in strength.
Speaker:So that's what he promises.
Speaker:What I love is how that's accomplished.
Speaker:So if you look in verse three and four, for example, it says, Hurt
Speaker:not the earth, neither the sea nor the trees till we have sealed the
Speaker:servants of God on their foreheads.
Speaker:And I heard the number of them which were sealed and they were sealed.
Speaker:144, 000 of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Speaker:And then he lists out These representative groups from the different tribes.
Speaker:If you want the Joseph Smith translation and some commentary from prophets,
Speaker:you can see that this verse is an allusion to the priesthood of God.
Speaker:That this Melchizedek priesthood offers these saving ordinances
Speaker:to any who will receive them.
Speaker:That's who goes out and helps.
Speaker:It's taking the promises of the priesthood to as many as will hear.
Speaker:And you see how many come in verse 9.
Speaker:So amidst all this devastation, and the seals being opened, and the struggle,
Speaker:there is this surge of gathering.
Speaker:And the results in 9.
Speaker:After this I beheld, and lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of
Speaker:all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne,
Speaker:and before the Lamb, clothed with their white robes, and palms in their hands,
Speaker:and cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God, which sitteth
Speaker:upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Speaker:This is the work that we are a part of.
Speaker:This is that invitation to gather people to God from all nations and
Speaker:all peoples and offer them these promised blessings that come through
Speaker:covenants, through baptism, through the covenants you make in the temple.
Speaker:These promises are lasting and I love knowing that in this grand
Speaker:vision of John Countless people come.
Speaker:It reminds me of, remember in Ezekiel 47, when we studied in the Old Testament,
Speaker:and there's that visual of that river that comes from the temple doors.
Speaker:Remember we talked about how like anything that river touches turned green and was
Speaker:lush and full and he goes out a thousand yards and measures and it's like to the
Speaker:ankles and then a thousand more yards and it's to the knees and like this river just
Speaker:consumes everything and turns everything lush and living and That's the feel I got.
Speaker:In fact, I drew that picture at the top of my margins in this chapter
Speaker:because I think that's his invitation is to be a part of this restoration
Speaker:of life and hope that comes by sharing the priesthood ordinances.
Speaker:So you see a lot of that in this chapter.
Speaker:I also love when John takes a minute to see each of these people individually.
Speaker:So he has a chat with one of the angels and tries to
Speaker:understand who these people are.
Speaker:And the phrasing of it to me was just Beautiful.
Speaker:It starts in 13.
Speaker:And one of the elders answers saying unto me, What are these
Speaker:which are arrayed in white robes?
Speaker:And whence came they?
Speaker:And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest.
Speaker:Which I kind of love.
Speaker:This is John saying like, you're the angel.
Speaker:Tell me who these people are.
Speaker:Tell me what you know.
Speaker:Similar to what you see with Nephi in the Book of Mormon when he doesn't
Speaker:know all the answers and so he asks the angel to guide him through his vision.
Speaker:That's sort of what happens in 14.
Speaker:And he said unto me, These are they which came out of great tribulation
Speaker:and have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Speaker:Therefore, are they before the throne of God and serve him day and night
Speaker:in his temple, and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
Speaker:That's the end result of those who are gathered to God.
Speaker:Those who get to make covenants and keep them, those, they get to Endure
Speaker:tribulation in this earth life and wash their robes in the blood of the Lamb.
Speaker:I think that's, one of the things I liked about that phrasing is, to
Speaker:me it felt like faith and works.
Speaker:It was this combination of, it's the grace of God that allows any of
Speaker:those clothes to become clean again.
Speaker:But it's my effort in that process and my desires and what I tried to accomplish
Speaker:that Those two in tandem creates white they create this piece I think we have
Speaker:to always remember that it's the Savior's grace that creates the power behind it
Speaker:But I love the visual of both of those things working in harmony, even if they're
Speaker:wildly disproportionate It also has this sweet little ending of the last two
Speaker:verses Speaking of the fact that they're gonna live where the Lord is, and have a
Speaker:place among, among close to the throne.
Speaker:They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more.
Speaker:Neither shall the sunlight on them, nor any heat.
Speaker:For the Lamb, which is in the midst of the throne, shall feed them, and shall lead
Speaker:them unto the living fountains of waters.
Speaker:And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
Speaker:Part of the reason I love this is I think sometimes we get an idea
Speaker:of the throne room of God and we picture just the very elect, you
Speaker:know, I you picture just the people that you think in scriptural history
Speaker:are like the best and the brightest.
Speaker:And although I'm sure they're there, the promises that all of us who
Speaker:endure tribulation and repented and chose to partake in the atonement of
Speaker:Jesus Christ, we all get to be close.
Speaker:We all get to be where he is.
Speaker:We all get to be fed by him and led to living waters.
Speaker:And it's just such a contrast to those warring horsemen of chapter six.
Speaker:In fact, the ending sentence of God wiping away all tears, I just, there's
Speaker:some beautiful allusions to, to Joel in these verses, but he talks about
Speaker:this phase of things being restored, that there will be a time of comfort
Speaker:and things will be restored to you that were Lost in this earth life, and
Speaker:I just thought it's such an intimate gesture You know, I can't think of how
Speaker:many people I would allow to wipe tears off my face There can't be many and the
Speaker:very fact that this is how God interacts with us is just such a tender Poignant
Speaker:description of the kind of God he is.
Speaker:I just loved it
Speaker:All right, chapter eight.
Speaker:Now we shift to the seventh seal.
Speaker:So interestingly, the seventh seal starts with silence.
Speaker:There is this period of quiet.
Speaker:It gives us the listing of half an hour, but most things in
Speaker:Revelation are a bit fluid, whether they're literal or symbolic.
Speaker:So I think this is just kind of a proportionally short time.
Speaker:And it talks about trumpets that come during this seventh seal phase,
Speaker:this last Opportunity for repentance.
Speaker:There are these seven trumpets that come and I loved again, like I mentioned
Speaker:last week I loved that book from Michael Wilcox on Revelation and he related this
Speaker:seal and these trumpets that come to the story in Jericho You remember when we
Speaker:studied that together with the idea of they circled around the city blowing these
Speaker:trumpets In fact, even on the last day they circled the city seven times Like
Speaker:there are so many chances for people to hear and see and repent Sadly only Rahab
Speaker:and her family actually do help anyone and are saved, but you can see the Lord
Speaker:just continually inviting people to come.
Speaker:When I hear those trumpets and I, when I picture that story of Jericho, you
Speaker:can almost see a hen spreading out her wings saying, I come, come into this
Speaker:safe harbor, let go of all of this that's inside the walls and come out
Speaker:to where you can find peace and safety.
Speaker:And he does that seven days in a row.
Speaker:And then on the last day, he does it seven times in a row, almost as this is like.
Speaker:pleading with the people to come out and to hear him.
Speaker:And that visual helped me understand these trumpets because each of them
Speaker:comes and sounds in the hopes that people will change course and come
Speaker:closer because time is running out.
Speaker:So you'll see some of that.
Speaker:First angel sounds his trumpet, and then a second one sounds his
Speaker:trumpet, and different things occur.
Speaker:By the time the third angel comes, we kind of see this great star fall.
Speaker:What's tricky about reading the Book of Revelation is
Speaker:time is a little bit flexible.
Speaker:So sometimes you're gonna be reading things almost in chronological order,
Speaker:and then you sort of all of a sudden jump in time back to premortal life,
Speaker:where you'll jump to the Council in Heaven, or going forward to the
Speaker:Second Coming, and it's kind of hard.
Speaker:to get your bearings.
Speaker:So this is a good place to go into the notes.
Speaker:Or if you don't have the notes, go into the Institute Manual and it will help you.
Speaker:But this is where you see Lucifer fall.
Speaker:What I think is really cool is the way they describe it as a great fall.
Speaker:So in verse 10, And the third angel sounded, meaning that trumpet goes
Speaker:out, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp.
Speaker:And it fell upon the third part of the rivers and upon the fountains of waters.
Speaker:And the name of the star is called Wormwood.
Speaker:And the third part of the waters became Wormwood.
Speaker:And many men died of the waters because they were made bitter.
Speaker:This is an allusion to when Lucifer fell, right?
Speaker:He, he came from being an angel of light and he fell and the visual of that fall.
Speaker:First, I think it's really powerful that he has this streak of light.
Speaker:You know, like any shooting star that you see, there is this vibrant
Speaker:streak of light that's eye catching, and then it goes to nothing.
Speaker:There is no lasting power.
Speaker:Do you guys remember when we let that, lit the ping pong ball on fire
Speaker:and all that was left was just this like hollowed out shell of fibers?
Speaker:It's that, it's that.
Speaker:There's this eye catching burn, and then there is this.
Speaker:blackness.
Speaker:In fact, what's powerful to me is what happens because of the fall of this star.
Speaker:So the same way if a star hit our planet right now, it will
Speaker:create this gigantic crater.
Speaker:Well, I don't know, maybe it would create something much worse than
Speaker:that, but that's kind of what the visual that John sees is he sees a
Speaker:hole in the earth that is bottomless.
Speaker:That's how he describes it.
Speaker:And then when you go into chapter nine, you see things
Speaker:start to emerge from that hole.
Speaker:So that star falling from heaven isn't just sad because the star falls.
Speaker:It's, it's another one of those things that, because that seal has been
Speaker:opened, This next phase of devastation is allowed to emerge and that's kind
Speaker:of the visual you want to have in your mind before you jump into chapter 9.
Speaker:It's interesting to me that all throughout those verses we just read in 8, only a
Speaker:fraction of the people are destroyed.
Speaker:It's almost like those trumpets in Jericho where they're, he's, he's almost like
Speaker:shooting a warning shot across the bow.
Speaker:It's not that everybody gets wiped out.
Speaker:It's like each one of these successive trumpets is trying to
Speaker:warn and encourage people to change.
Speaker:So only a portion of the people are destroyed.
Speaker:When you go into nine, you see this bottomless pit take its course.
Speaker:I just think what John is particularly great at is creating these Um, contrasting
Speaker:images for us to stew over and learn from, you know, for example, we already
Speaker:learned about the Savior being these living waters that can bless and
Speaker:bring life to everything they touch.
Speaker:And here, especially in that last chapter, you see that wormwood, which is just this
Speaker:oily substance that poisons by degrees.
Speaker:Um, I think you see those two contrasting.
Speaker:In nine, you see the contrast to the Savior's offering of light and truth
Speaker:and things that come from heaven and touch the earth and bless it.
Speaker:The opposite of that is things that emerge from this.
Speaker:Um, and it's kind of a scary read.
Speaker:The tide is back in you guys and in chapter nine, you're going to feel
Speaker:it because basically what happens is out of this pit emerges smoke.
Speaker:That's what comes first.
Speaker:So if you look in the middle of verse two, it says there arose a smoke out of
Speaker:the pit as the smoke of a great furnace and the sun and the air were darkened
Speaker:by reason of the smoke of the pit.
Speaker:I think this is important because I don't think it's necessarily
Speaker:always that the Lord darkens things.
Speaker:You know, I don't think he.
Speaker:Changes the mood to blood necessarily that the sun is darkened because the Lord
Speaker:chose it that way I mean, I don't know all the ramifications of this But what
Speaker:the verses teach is that that happens because of this smoke that comes there is
Speaker:so much confusion and fear and Struggle and sin that people's vision is clouded.
Speaker:I think it's really interesting the order of things.
Speaker:So first, you're going to see, come out of this pit, you're
Speaker:going to see this smoke arise.
Speaker:Then it's going to be this horde of locusts that devours
Speaker:everything in its path.
Speaker:And then last, you're going to see these horsemen.
Speaker:Millions of horsemen that come up out of this river.
Speaker:And it's the progression of them that I thought was so interesting, because
Speaker:it feels like the adversary to me.
Speaker:I think he always begins with a smoke.
Speaker:You see that many times in scripture.
Speaker:If you go in the notes, I lay out a bunch of these, but where he's, his
Speaker:goal at first is not to terrify you.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:He doesn't, he wants to lull you into this carnal submission.
Speaker:So he's going to begin with smoke.
Speaker:He's going to begin by confusing you and maybe, you know, like making you struggle
Speaker:to understand and get your bearings.
Speaker:There's this smoke that comes.
Speaker:And then once he's got you discombobulated, that's
Speaker:when the next thing emerges.
Speaker:For me, this is like, if you struggle with a point of your testimony,
Speaker:or you're struggling to keep one of your covenants, he often will.
Speaker:It comes because there is this smoke.
Speaker:You've got a misunderstanding about church history, or maybe you've
Speaker:misinterpreted doctrine somehow, or whatever the reasons are.
Speaker:The smoke is causing you to be a little bit off balance.
Speaker:When you're a little bit off balance, and you don't find a way to steady yourself,
Speaker:that's when he can actually come at you.
Speaker:So, in the next phase, you get, for ten verses or so, this
Speaker:description of this horde of locusts.
Speaker:Remember, we study locusts in the Old Testament.
Speaker:They, they are this, you know, creature that can come and devastate a landscape.
Speaker:In fact, we still see it in our day to day.
Speaker:We read through this when we were talking about the plagues in Egypt,
Speaker:but they can come and just wipe out all the crops in an area.
Speaker:They get into every house, they get into every nook and cranny, and they
Speaker:just devour everything in their path.
Speaker:And I think that's Satan's strategy if we don't get our bearings when
Speaker:we feel doubt or fear or struggle by holding tight to our covenants Then
Speaker:he takes those opportunities and he tries to send things that will
Speaker:obliterate everything else you believe.
Speaker:I just have seen this, I think I've seen it with myself at times and people
Speaker:I love where he just sends in hordes.
Speaker:What's interesting is these locusts are not traditional bugs.
Speaker:These are locusts that have weird faces and hair like women and like
Speaker:it's this odd, this odd creature.
Speaker:And I guess there might be a lot of different ways to interpret these verses.
Speaker:For me, the like zoomed out view was Satan creates unnatural things that To
Speaker:intimidate and to scare and they're not, when you feel that confusion, I think
Speaker:that's exactly what he wants for you.
Speaker:He wants you to be caught off guard and to be confused because he's a contrast
Speaker:to what the Savior offers, which is the simple, pure, beautiful truths, right?
Speaker:I think you see that into this third devastation that comes out, these
Speaker:millions of horsemen that come out riding across the earth, which I think is just
Speaker:the symbol of once Satan has a hold, once he's got his, Swarm of locusts
Speaker:out destroying testimonies and truth.
Speaker:He comes with this rampage of, you know, people who want to tumble
Speaker:over your testimony and knock everything in their path down.
Speaker:What I love is that such a contrast to what the Savior brings, you know, he,
Speaker:he came with just one, he is just one and he comes in humble circumstances and
Speaker:he's born in a manger and he's, it's such a vivid contrast to these millions of.
Speaker:Everything else.
Speaker:It just takes one, uh, to combat all of this darkness.
Speaker:And I think, to me, that was the message of 9.
Speaker:I also think the warning at the very end of 9 was a powerful one.
Speaker:So it says in 20, And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues,
Speaker:yet repented not the works of their hands.
Speaker:That they should not worship devils and idols of gold and silver and
Speaker:brass and stone and wood Which neither can see nor hear nor walk.
Speaker:The reason I think devastation is allowed to come is because I think the
Speaker:Lord is constantly Stretching his arm out saying like come to me I need you
Speaker:to come closer the same way when Elijah Stopped the heavens remember and no rain
Speaker:fell in the hopes that people would turn and repent and come close to God That's
Speaker:what the Lord is hoping for us, but what he finds is people still don't change,
Speaker:their hearts don't turn, and a bunch are still remaining who worship other gods.
Speaker:And remember, this is John's language, and I think in our day
Speaker:it's probably a little different.
Speaker:We have different things that we worship, you know, different comfortable gods
Speaker:that we've created with our own hands.
Speaker:And he's warning that you're going to hear these trumpets sound, you're
Speaker:going to hear these invitations to come close, and you can't discount it.
Speaker:You have to set down the idols that we've created for ourselves and
Speaker:turn to the only source of truth.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:We just struggled through that surf of storms and chaos in chapter
Speaker:nine, and now we get a break.
Speaker:The tide's going to go out in chapter 10 and we get a chance to see something
Speaker:mighty and glorious to kind of buoy us up.
Speaker:And that comes in the form of a mighty angel.
Speaker:So if you look in one, it says, And I saw another mighty angel come down
Speaker:from heaven, clothed with a cloud, and a rainbow was upon his head,
Speaker:and his face was as it were the sun and his feet as pillars of fire.
Speaker:I like about this visual, especially contrasting what we
Speaker:just read, not just that there's.
Speaker:One person who comes compared to like the hordes of locusts and you know millions
Speaker:of horsemen I also love how he comes this mighty angel comes with bright radiant
Speaker:light To me, this is kind of like the Lord's way of pushing out that darkness.
Speaker:Remember he said when light comes in, it chases the darkness?
Speaker:I think it's in Covenants.
Speaker:And that's what I see happening here.
Speaker:The same way if you had a horde of locusts or whatever, and you put on this
Speaker:bright, hot light, they would scatter and scramble into these dark places.
Speaker:And that's what I picture happening in 10.
Speaker:That this one mighty angel who can straddle the sea and the
Speaker:earth, um, Scares off the darkness and brings a work forward.
Speaker:What's interesting to me is The focus isn't so much on this mighty angel.
Speaker:We learn from the Joseph Smith translation and from the Doctrine and Covenants that
Speaker:this is, in fact, Michael who is coming, and he has this mission for John to do.
Speaker:It's just fascinating to me that despite all this darkness and the
Speaker:millions of horses and all the stuff that John is seeing, this one mighty
Speaker:angel cuts through all of that to give John a job, a calling of sorts.
Speaker:That's kind of how I read verse, er, chapter 10.
Speaker:Because basically he comes with seven thunders.
Speaker:That's how it's described.
Speaker:And thunder is just a way to communicate.
Speaker:It represents Communication from God.
Speaker:So he comes with this perfect communication from God to tell John what
Speaker:his part of this mighty work is, that he's gonna be a part of this gathering.
Speaker:And a big part of what he's gonna need to do is to write this
Speaker:revelation and to seal things up.
Speaker:I don't know entirely what this means.
Speaker:I studied a bunch of different theories on it.
Speaker:You can get some of it from like DNC 88, but this is an understanding that
Speaker:some things are not revealed just yet.
Speaker:Some things that John saw are not available to us.
Speaker:Some came through Joseph Smith and other, other prophets, but I think this is our
Speaker:understanding that this was John's calling from this angel to do this great work.
Speaker:What I like is what comes with this calling.
Speaker:So the visual that happens is this angel who come, who comes and, you
Speaker:know, has one foot on land and one foot on the sea and is this mighty angel.
Speaker:He comes and has this little book in his hand.
Speaker:It's almost like a Smaller version of what we read in chapter 5.
Speaker:Remember when God the Father has a book in his right hand and the Savior
Speaker:takes it, that scroll that's sealed up, and he takes on that calling
Speaker:of sorts, and heaven rejoices?
Speaker:This is almost a mini version of that.
Speaker:Because this angel has a book in his hand and John is invited to take it,
Speaker:but John has to choose to take it.
Speaker:In fact, that's what you see in the verses.
Speaker:In 8 it says, And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, saying,
Speaker:Go, and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel, which
Speaker:standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
Speaker:And I went unto the angel and said unto him, This is John's choice to,
Speaker:yes, I will accept this calling and this work that you have for me to do.
Speaker:That's how I read it.
Speaker:And he said unto me, take it and eat it up, and it shall make
Speaker:thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
Speaker:This, I think, is kind of a sweet understanding about stewardships.
Speaker:I think every stewardship you have and I have, whether it be our family
Speaker:stewardships or our callings that we have through the church, they all Require
Speaker:all of us, you know, when john has to take that book and consume it It's like
Speaker:taking this calling and making it a part of him It's remember we did this
Speaker:in the doctrine of covenants when we made those pastry scrolls and we ate
Speaker:them That that's what's happening here.
Speaker:It's becoming a part of him what the angel witnesses is it's going to be a mixed bag
Speaker:There are parts of this calling that are going to be so delicious to you and there
Speaker:are parts that are going to be bitter and I think that's Every stewardship I've ever
Speaker:had, you guys, like, they all have both.
Speaker:That's how you progress at growing it.
Speaker:In fact, John testifies to that.
Speaker:And he says, and I took the little book out of the angel's hand and I ate it up
Speaker:and it was in my mouth, sweet as honey.
Speaker:And as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
Speaker:I think if you struggle with your calling or with your stewardship, whatever it
Speaker:is, just know you're in good company.
Speaker:They're both, they come with.
Speaker:Abundant gifts and blessings, and they also come with struggles and
Speaker:strains that will test you and try you and help you progress.
Speaker:And I love that you see that in chapter 10.
Speaker:I'm sure many times in the past you've heard about that sign of the
Speaker:last days that two prophets will be in Jerusalem and they'll teach in
Speaker:the streets and they'll be killed in the streets and left in the streets.
Speaker:And it's this horrific scene of a sign that will indicate that time is almost up.
Speaker:What I think is sad about that is we often focus so much on that piece that we miss
Speaker:the miracles that cushion that story.
Speaker:And they are.
Speaker:Phenomenal miracles.
Speaker:So read all of chapter 11, not just the middle.
Speaker:It's basically what happens is he promises that he will send prophets
Speaker:and that they will come and they will do miraculous things for the people.
Speaker:So if you go in the verses, you can see in three, and I will give
Speaker:power unto two witnesses and they shall prophesy 1, 203 score days.
Speaker:Clothed in sackcloth.
Speaker:That just means three and a half years.
Speaker:Usually that's a figurative term that means like a period of trial or struggle.
Speaker:Kind of like the three and a half years of, you know,
Speaker:famine time that Elijah caused.
Speaker:Same idea.
Speaker:So, I don't think we have to take all this as It's exactly literal.
Speaker:But there will be two servants.
Speaker:In fact, I think it's Bruce R.
Speaker:McConkie that says these will certainly be members of the Quorum of the Twelve
Speaker:or members of the First Presidency.
Speaker:So that's who is here.
Speaker:And what he speaks of is their connection to truth.
Speaker:And it's in such a beautiful way.
Speaker:It's in four.
Speaker:These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks standing
Speaker:before the God of the Earth.
Speaker:This is an allusion back to, I think it's in Zechariah 4.
Speaker:We talked about this in the Old Testament a little bit as well, but
Speaker:this is that visual that where there's these candlesticks, like a menorah
Speaker:kind of candlestick, that is directly connected to these olive trees.
Speaker:Meaning, meaning it has this It's this constant stream of oil that
Speaker:allows it to beam out brightly.
Speaker:There is no, those, those wells that hold the oil at the top of those
Speaker:candlesticks, they never run dry because it's connected directly to the tree.
Speaker:I think that's such a beautiful illusion when you think about people like.
Speaker:Those 15 men who hold those apostolic keys.
Speaker:They are Directly connected to the source of truth and light and they will
Speaker:never burn out That's the promise and so you see him speaking about that in the
Speaker:verses Then he says they'll have great power like power like Elijah to seal
Speaker:up the heavens and to move mountains and to create miracles I mean for three
Speaker:and a half years or whatever that term symbolizes a long period of time They
Speaker:will be able to do great wonders and bless that portion of the world, or maybe
Speaker:all the world, from where they stand.
Speaker:That, I think, is a remarkable thing.
Speaker:It says that people will come up against them and they won't be able to stop them
Speaker:because they have a message to get out.
Speaker:I mean, it feels like Abinadi, or even Joseph Smith, who no harm could
Speaker:really come to him in any lasting way until he had his message finished.
Speaker:You know, Abinadi could end up in shackles at King Noah's Court,
Speaker:Joseph could be imprisoned or stuck in a basement in Liberty Jail,
Speaker:but His message would come forth.
Speaker:His days were known to the Lord.
Speaker:And that's what, you get that feeling with these two witnesses as well.
Speaker:So in seven it says, And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast
Speaker:that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them and
Speaker:shall overcome them and kill them.
Speaker:And this is when you hear those prophecies about them lying in the streets
Speaker:and people celebrating their death.
Speaker:What's hard about that, and again, I don't know if this is literal or figurative.
Speaker:It's probably both.
Speaker:Um, I think this is the idea of truth looking like it's dead,
Speaker:hope looking like it's dead, peace looking like it's dead for a season.
Speaker:What is powerful to me about this visual is what comes next.
Speaker:That it says that they are restored.
Speaker:So the fact that people are rejoicing over their death doesn't last.
Speaker:In 11 it says, And after three days and a half the Spirit of life from
Speaker:God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet, and great
Speaker:fear fell upon them which saw them.
Speaker:Unlike Abinadi or the Savior himself, in this situation everybody sees it.
Speaker:It's almost like a Lazarus type moment, you know, where everybody,
Speaker:whether they were believers or not, got to witness this.
Speaker:incredible miracle moment where these two prophets stand.
Speaker:I mean, I can't, I can't even imagine the weight of the air in that
Speaker:space when you, when that happens.
Speaker:That is the cushion of miracles that I think we have to teach
Speaker:our kids about this prophecy.
Speaker:Yes, there will be dark days, but oh, they are cushioned with great miracles
Speaker:on this side and a phenomenal Christ like kind of miracle on the other side.
Speaker:And that's what ushers in these last days.
Speaker:It's not just the bleakness of what happens in the middle.
Speaker:And that's kind of what you see at the end of those verses is that he's, the
Speaker:angels start to celebrate, because this is kind of the beginning of that last phase,
Speaker:almost like they're anticipating victory.
Speaker:Remember, time is a little fluid in these verses, so it'll sound like The
Speaker:Savior has come, and this begins, like, touching the Mount of Olives, but my
Speaker:understanding is this is kind of that phase where the angels are seeing, seeing
Speaker:that countdown clock get smaller and smaller, and knowing that the time for
Speaker:the Savior's coming is getting close, and they rejoice in that proximity.
Speaker:Chapter 12 is one of those chapters that you get much richer understanding if you
Speaker:read it in the appendix because Basically when Joseph Smith offered translations on
Speaker:these verses in some cases, he rearranged them a little bit So it's it's a little
Speaker:easier to understand if you actually go back to the appendix and read the
Speaker:full chapter But there's a lot of cool imagery in this chapter basically he's
Speaker:talking about the time if you look in the chapter heading you can see that this
Speaker:Chapter is focused in on the time of the great apostasy and the time of trying
Speaker:to bring truth into the world What's powerful to me is the visual that he
Speaker:uses So he describes a woman who radiates light, similar to the angel that we
Speaker:just read about in the previous chapter.
Speaker:She shines like the sun, and about her head are these twelve stars, and under
Speaker:her feet is this luminous, bright moon.
Speaker:And she is expecting, and the baby that she is expecting
Speaker:represents Zion, essentially.
Speaker:So you can go on the Joseph Smith translation and see that this is kind of
Speaker:like, The greater truth, the kingdom of God, and then the baby that she's about
Speaker:to deliver is like truth on the earth.
Speaker:This idea of Christ's church being formed and established, and you can go in the
Speaker:notes and learn a little bit more, but I kind of love the visual of it, because you
Speaker:hear The opposition coming in really fast.
Speaker:If you look in three, there's this allusion to a red dragon.
Speaker:In fact, what it describes is that there is a red dragon that is following this
Speaker:woman and chasing after her in the hopes of devouring the baby as it's born, which
Speaker:just fits with Lucifer's plan, right?
Speaker:Like he just wants to Shroud light in darkness.
Speaker:He wants to cover up truth.
Speaker:He wants to devour it and make it disappear and He just can't.
Speaker:In fact, there's all these precautions put in place so that that can't happen
Speaker:fully even though the great apostasy Seems to put everything in darkness for
Speaker:a time There are these little flashes of light and that's how we see in the
Speaker:chapter in the verses So, for example, it says in five, And she brought forth
Speaker:a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron, or an iron rod, the
Speaker:word of truth, as you read in the JST.
Speaker:And her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Speaker:And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God,
Speaker:that she should feed her there, that they should feed her there a thousand
Speaker:two hundred and threescore days.
Speaker:So this is the understanding, for me, when I read this, this is like when
Speaker:you see Portions of truth kind of tucked away, you know, you see things
Speaker:like the plates that get buried in order to emerge at the right time.
Speaker:They're in a place of preservation and a place that God prepared so that
Speaker:when the time was right, they could emerge kind of hidden from this.
Speaker:great darkness that was sort of consuming things.
Speaker:You also see truths written into things like stained glass windows in
Speaker:medieval Europe that you can still see today, or paintings of truth.
Speaker:You see these glimmers of light all over the place in history.
Speaker:Even though there was a time of apostasy where most of truth was clouded or
Speaker:lost, there are these flashes of light.
Speaker:And I feel like that's what it means when This woman is in the wilderness
Speaker:and yet she is preserved and protected in all these different ways.
Speaker:So you'll see some of that.
Speaker:You also see how we overcome.
Speaker:Right in the middle of this chapter, right when things seem dark and you
Speaker:can feel this dragon creeping in and getting closer and closer to
Speaker:this woman, you get this flashback.
Speaker:Almost like you're watching a Netflix series and the the
Speaker:story shifts all the way back.
Speaker:We go all the way back to premortality and the war in heaven.
Speaker:It's like from Verses 7 to 13 or so.
Speaker:What's fascinating to me is, I think this is a bit of a pep talk.
Speaker:I think this is John trying to say, remember who you are.
Speaker:You've been in this spot before, where it seemed like Satan was
Speaker:growing in power and that his arguments were getting persuasive.
Speaker:And you've been in this spot.
Speaker:Remember how you voted last time.
Speaker:Remember how this went and how he fell.
Speaker:And remember that all of his people were cast out.
Speaker:We've been here before, so let's surge forward.
Speaker:I think that's why he has this little.
Speaker:intermission of sorts that's tucked into the middle of chapter 12.
Speaker:It's a premortal game plan that he's asking us to review so that we have
Speaker:confidence in the game of our day.
Speaker:What I think is really empowering, in fact, there's a quote or a talk from Elder
Speaker:Hamlet that's in the notes where he uses these same verses and he says basically,
Speaker:What John is doing here is he's trying to give us the strategies that we used
Speaker:premortally so that we can use them now.
Speaker:And you can find those in 11.
Speaker:It says, And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, by the word
Speaker:of their testimony, and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Speaker:This is the play that we used.
Speaker:You know, this is the incredible play that worked over the adversary last
Speaker:time that we can use this time, that we take advantage of the atonement
Speaker:of Jesus Christ and we overcome through the blood of the Lamb.
Speaker:That we don't just have testimonies, but we live them.
Speaker:We keep our testimonies.
Speaker:That's what gave us the power to overcome the adversary.
Speaker:Pre mortally, it works for us today as well.
Speaker:And then that last one.
Speaker:They love not their lives unto the death.
Speaker:Meaning, I consecrate my whole self in.
Speaker:I'm not holding back.
Speaker:I'm not worried.
Speaker:I'm not fearful of the outcomes.
Speaker:I am all in.
Speaker:And when we are all in, like we were pre mortally, we can channel that same power.
Speaker:That's his invitation.
Speaker:He's like, take The version you were then.
Speaker:I know you can't remember it well.
Speaker:In fact, Elder Hamula talks about how you should tap into,
Speaker:those qualities are not gone.
Speaker:You just have to unearth them a little bit.
Speaker:You have to remember and find out the strength that you had
Speaker:pre mortally and use it today.
Speaker:Because Satan's strategies haven't changed.
Speaker:So the same tactics that helped us overcome him pre
Speaker:mortally can help us here.
Speaker:So you see a lot of that in those first three verses.
Speaker:You also see that Satan's getting worried because he's running out of time.
Speaker:So if you see in 12, he hath but a short time left.
Speaker:This to me is, you know, remember when he's chatting with Moses and
Speaker:he gets all blustery and mad because Moses won't worship him and you can
Speaker:see him getting kind of flustered.
Speaker:That's how I feel about the end of 12.
Speaker:You see him getting flustered and trying to chase down this woman
Speaker:and he can't, he can't get to her.
Speaker:In fact, his last remaining strategy is to Seek after her children.
Speaker:So it says in 17, And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to
Speaker:make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God,
Speaker:and have a testimony of Jesus Christ.
Speaker:To me, this is what you see Satan do all the time.
Speaker:First, he tries to go after truth, and confuse people about what is true.
Speaker:If that doesn't work, Because it can't.
Speaker:Truth always shines out in the end.
Speaker:Then he seeks after the children themselves, those who believe
Speaker:in that truth, and he tries to pull them down instead.
Speaker:And that's the warning that I think you find in chapter 12.
Speaker:We get another crazy cool beast coming out of the water in chapter 13.
Speaker:This movie has different parts, different components to it.
Speaker:They're all different kinds of predators and you can learn in the
Speaker:chapter heading that these are just to represent the different degenerate
Speaker:kingdoms and this idea of vying for power and authority and you know,
Speaker:pushing other people out of their way.
Speaker:It leans heavily on what we studied in Daniel.
Speaker:Those visions that we read about there, you see some of those
Speaker:same predators mentioned here.
Speaker:And I think the warning is just a simple one.
Speaker:It is.
Speaker:Whatever god you worship in this life.
Speaker:Becomes your demise in the next one.
Speaker:Meaning, if you worship anything other than the true and living
Speaker:God, you end up being shackled.
Speaker:That's what you see in 9 and 10.
Speaker:If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Speaker:He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity.
Speaker:He that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.
Speaker:I think it's the same thing.
Speaker:I was in New York with my parents and we were watching A Christmas Carol one
Speaker:night and you know that Marley's ghost who comes in with all those shackles
Speaker:that are attached to these money boxes.
Speaker:I think that's what John is trying to tell us.
Speaker:He's saying if you're seeking after the praise of the world, you'll end
Speaker:up losing yourself in it because the world's opinions and appetites
Speaker:change all the time, which means you have to change all the time.
Speaker:If you're seeking wealth or power, you're going to end up Selling yourself
Speaker:in the process, selling your soul in the process in order to achieve it.
Speaker:And so he warns about that.
Speaker:If you live by the sword, you'll die by the sword.
Speaker:And then he talks about another illusion from Daniel about that image that when
Speaker:you choose to worship any other god, any of these false gods, they create
Speaker:images that you have to bow down to.
Speaker:Similar to what we saw with Abednego.
Speaker:What I love about that connection point is.
Speaker:He, if you think back on that story that we studied in the Old Testament,
Speaker:when they refused to bow down and they refused to pray to that image of
Speaker:gold, they're thrown in a fire, right?
Speaker:There's this, um, fear that's supposed to set in on them when that fire is ignited
Speaker:seven times its normal temperature.
Speaker:But what I remember most is the miracle that happens.
Speaker:In those moments, I think when we choose to stand in a world that is commanding
Speaker:us to kneel before whatever gods they're creating for us, when we choose to
Speaker:stand, even if we're thrown into a fire, the promise is you are not alone.
Speaker:I actually love that about that story.
Speaker:Remember how, I think it's King Nebuchadnezzar who like looks
Speaker:into the furnace and he says, didn't we put three guys in there?
Speaker:It looks like there's four.
Speaker:You know, they are, not only do they come out without a hair of their head being
Speaker:singed and their clothes don't even smell like fire, they have someone with them
Speaker:the whole time and they are preserved.
Speaker:And that's, I think the promise of worshiping the true God
Speaker:that you will always have.
Speaker:Strength and protection and fellowship in this, in this work.
Speaker:I think that's the message of 13.
Speaker:In mighty contrast to that great glistening statue and all the false
Speaker:gods they were commanding you to worship in the last chapter, you see
Speaker:the true and living God comes straight through in verse 1 of chapter 14.
Speaker:And I looked, and lo, a lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him a hundred
Speaker:and forty four thousand, having his father's name written in their foreheads.
Speaker:This is You know, that last trumpet has sounded the.
Speaker:The saints have circled Jericho for the last time, and as many times as
Speaker:he possibly can, the Lord has called people to come under his wings, and
Speaker:now it is a time of, time is out.
Speaker:You know, it's almost like in all these chapters you can visualize this hourglass
Speaker:with that sand just slipping through, where the Lord is continually inviting
Speaker:people just to come back, and now.
Speaker:Time is out.
Speaker:And so this is where things shift in a beautiful, bright way.
Speaker:Things shift.
Speaker:So he comes on Mount Zion and people sing.
Speaker:In fact, they sing a new song together.
Speaker:You can learn a little bit more about that in the Doctrine and Covenants.
Speaker:It's all in the notes, but this idea of Those who are righteous know the song.
Speaker:They know the words to the song.
Speaker:They know the melody and they can all sing together.
Speaker:Those who have his name written upon their foreheads.
Speaker:You know, they've made covenants and they've kept them and they
Speaker:seek covenant connection with him.
Speaker:Those are who come.
Speaker:I love that you see so much about covenants in these verses.
Speaker:Like if you look in four and five, I actually felt like you
Speaker:could see most of the covenants we make in an endowment ceremony is
Speaker:sort of woven into these verses.
Speaker:You can see it in the notes as well, but he's He's rewarding those who
Speaker:kept their covenants by saying, you come with me in this time.
Speaker:When that second coming comes and there is that, you know, rising with
Speaker:the resurrection of the just, that's the promise that you get to come in
Speaker:these moments and be a part of this magnificent occurrence that happens.
Speaker:He also talks about the everlasting gospel coming forth.
Speaker:So you see that in six, and I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having
Speaker:the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth and to
Speaker:every nation and kindred and tongue, and people saying with a loud voice, fear
Speaker:God and give glory to him for the hour of his judgment is come and worship him.
Speaker:That made heaven and earth and the sea and the fountain of water.
Speaker:Again, this is one of those times when I don't think chronology flows
Speaker:perfectly through the chapter.
Speaker:I think he's saying, this is what the restoration is like.
Speaker:In fact, Angel Moroni talks about these verses with Joseph Smith, that this
Speaker:is that time when truths are being restored and light is on the earth
Speaker:and it will not be pulled back again.
Speaker:That's this radiant time that we all get to be a part of if we are part of
Speaker:this covenant connection with the Lord.
Speaker:And then he warns about the opposite, that if you choose And
Speaker:if you choose not to engage, then you get to taste the wrath of God.
Speaker:And you see that in verse 10, that there's no rest, night or day,
Speaker:for those who choose this path.
Speaker:And then he counters it by teaching you about what happens to those who are
Speaker:Who do have his name written on their foreheads that they have patience and
Speaker:they rest from their labors I think that's what President Nelson's been teaching
Speaker:us this idea of what rest really looks like It's not so much you sit still or
Speaker:that you sit on a puffy cloud in heaven.
Speaker:It's that you have this Settled assurance that you're on the right team
Speaker:and this team will be victorious You know Like there are I think all of us
Speaker:at least if you played sports growing up you have those moments when you
Speaker:know Solidly, how this game will end.
Speaker:Not that you've seen every play ahead of time, but you know, because you can feel
Speaker:the tide pulling you towards victory.
Speaker:Like, I don't know how to describe it.
Speaker:There were times when I could just feel it, that we knew our momentum was right,
Speaker:we were playing as a team, there was a harmony, and we could not be stopped.
Speaker:And that's what I think he means when you find rest among the saints, is you have
Speaker:that momentum and it it will roll forward.
Speaker:Now what topples that great statue in Nebuchadnezzar's dream is this
Speaker:stone that rolls forth without hands.
Speaker:Remember, that's what he's teaching us in these verses.
Speaker:And then he talks about the beginning of the harvest, that the first they will
Speaker:bring in all the wheat and they will make sure that all that wheat is gathered in.
Speaker:And then the second harvest occurs and that's when the tares are gathered
Speaker:and things will be bundled and burned.
Speaker:And we'll get more of that as we jump into that in the following week.
Speaker:Welcome back, you guys.
Speaker:It's time for the creative side of week 50.
Speaker:So just like every week, my goal here is to give you three simple
Speaker:ways that you can take some of the things you learn from John's writing
Speaker:and apply them to everyday life.
Speaker:Ideally in weird, memorable ways so that your kids connect the excitement
Speaker:and the anticipation they feel with the scriptures themselves.
Speaker:I just think it's a powerful way to teach.
Speaker:So let me walk you through a few ideas to get the creative juices flowing.
Speaker:And then you can pick and choose your favorites or do something.
Speaker:Totally different, but let me walk you through the basics.
Speaker:Okay, first and foremost, I don't have anything to hold up for this one.
Speaker:Um, I wanted to reintroduce that idea of when we're studying the book of
Speaker:Revelation and even to some degree trying to understand our own Revelation, we
Speaker:have to go through a bit of a process.
Speaker:There's a, there's a way that we can come to know things that are true.
Speaker:Sometimes with the book of Revelation, we have very clear answers.
Speaker:Like in Joseph Smith's writings and the Doctrine and Covenants, we have clear
Speaker:answers to what certain symbols mean.
Speaker:Other things.
Speaker:We're just guessing it, but I think there's some really
Speaker:powerful ways to help your kids.
Speaker:figure out how to guess well, or how to get their own
Speaker:understanding about certain truths.
Speaker:And there's a process that you'll go through that is really similar
Speaker:to another process that your kids might be familiar with.
Speaker:So if your kids have ever used the Dingbats app, that's where you have those
Speaker:little word puzzles that say things like they'll have the word weather and then
Speaker:have an arrow pointing down below it.
Speaker:And the phrase that it's trying to teach you is Under the weather, but you
Speaker:sort of have to go through a process of decoding that in order to understand it.
Speaker:So for this object lesson, you're just gonna either find some of
Speaker:the ones I linked you in the notes online or you can just download the
Speaker:dingbats between the lines app and talk your kids through this process.
Speaker:We'll walk through it individually as well.
Speaker:But I think the process that you use to decode those cool little brain
Speaker:puzzles helps in Revelation as well.
Speaker:So we'll go through that.
Speaker:The second one is the more adventurous of the three because
Speaker:it involves a very sharp knife.
Speaker:So you need a big butcher knife like this.
Speaker:You also need a piece of fruit.
Speaker:We used an apple, pineapple maybe could work, anything sort of like that.
Speaker:And then you need a piece of paper.
Speaker:The reason we're going to do this object lesson, it's a cutting object lesson that
Speaker:will teach your kids a very important principle behind what you read in the
Speaker:book of revelation and that is that those who are righteous don't need to fear
Speaker:the last days that when you keep the covenants that you make with the Lord
Speaker:when you diligently try to you know stay in his You have protection in these last
Speaker:days and you don't need to be afraid.
Speaker:And the way you teach that is with this very cool apple chopping lesson.
Speaker:So I don't want to break, I don't want to teach you too much upfront, but I
Speaker:think this is one that your kids will remember for a long time to come.
Speaker:So grab a blank piece of paper and apple and a really sharp knife and
Speaker:you'll have everything you need.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Last but not least, I wanted to help my kids see the coming together of things.
Speaker:This week you're going to learn about the seals, these seals being opened.
Speaker:There's.
Speaker:It's seven seals that are opened and by the seventh seal, that's
Speaker:when the savior comes and restores things and the millennium kicks off
Speaker:and you have this moment of peace.
Speaker:But for most of what we studied this week, there's a lot of
Speaker:chaos and confusion and turmoil.
Speaker:But what I think you always have to remember is that the reason John is
Speaker:teaching us this vision is because this is all part of God's plan.
Speaker:It was laid out.
Speaker:Before the world began, this understanding that Christ would be the victor and
Speaker:there would be a definite win at the end is part of God's plan from the get go.
Speaker:And so I wanted my kids to see that.
Speaker:And a really cool way you can teach that is by creating snowflakes.
Speaker:So that process you go through of folding things up small and making weird cuts
Speaker:that seem like they might be devastating.
Speaker:And then that big open reveal of when it becomes something that has
Speaker:pattern and symmetry and beauty.
Speaker:That's what we're going to get across.
Speaker:But I didn't want to do just regular snowflakes.
Speaker:I thought it would be fun to make something bigger.
Speaker:So if you haven't made these before, we're making these gigantic
Speaker:snowflakes that are just made with regular pieces of copy paper.
Speaker:I give you a few different sizes in the printable and some with
Speaker:patterns on them like this.
Speaker:But the idea is really simple.
Speaker:It's that as you go through this process of creating this snowflake,
Speaker:you can walk through what happens in the book of Revelation this week.
Speaker:Even though Chaos comes and war comes and devastation comes it all leads to
Speaker:a point when there will be this Peace and this pattern and symmetry that
Speaker:will indicate for us the hand of God I think you'll see it abundantly clearly
Speaker:in the verses and hopefully the object lesson helps you see it as well This
Speaker:one, you just need copy paper and the printable and you'll be good to go.
Speaker:Alright, gather those supplies and let's get started.
Speaker:Alright you guys, that is it for week 50.
Speaker:Alright, I know it's a lot to study and it's a bit of an odd blend with all
Speaker:the Christmas tasks you're juggling.
Speaker:But I gotta tell ya, I really think there's power in this combination.
Speaker:I was skeptical at first, but over the course of the week I found
Speaker:myself buoyed up a little bit.
Speaker:I found my appreciation for the Christmas season and the gift that is our savior.
Speaker:emboldened and empowered by studying the words of John.
Speaker:I think the contrast is so glaring, it is so vibrant, it like jumps
Speaker:off the page and it makes you appreciate his Humble condescension,
Speaker:even more, at least it did for me.
Speaker:So I hope it does for you as well.
Speaker:If you need extra help, you're welcome to join me on Instagram.
Speaker:I am happy to chat through some of these insights and go into
Speaker:more detail on the object lessons.
Speaker:If you have questions or concerns about things, come find me there.
Speaker:So Instagram 10 a.
Speaker:m.
Speaker:Monday, that's Mountain Time.
Speaker:I'll pop on and I'll do a quick live so we can walk through things.
Speaker:If that's not an option for you, you're welcome to watch it on my
Speaker:feed later, or you can just ask me questions on the discussion boards
Speaker:in the course, or over on the YouTube questions or comments, um, or on Gather.
Speaker:So if you haven't had a chance to log in over at gather.
Speaker:mechmom.
Speaker:com, that's where the course is going to shift next year for the
Speaker:Book of Mormon, and it's a great place to chat and ask questions and
Speaker:You know, share your thoughts about what you're learning in these verses.
Speaker:My goal with this new site is to create a community feel where you
Speaker:can learn from each other, not just from the words that I'm saying.
Speaker:So I hope it, I hope you find that over on Gather.
Speaker:And the more of you that come and share your thoughts, the better that'll get.
Speaker:So come join us.
Speaker:But otherwise, enjoy this week of Revelation, you guys.
Speaker:And I'll see you next week when we get to dive headfirst into Christmas.