We started the show.
Speaker BYeah, we started the show.
Speaker AWelcome back to the number one financial literacy podcast in the world.
Speaker AThis is the higher standard.
Speaker ASitting in front of me is my partner in crime in the old school merch.
Speaker AHigher standard merch, Christopher Nahibi.
Speaker BYou know, when you start off a show like that, it does feel a little criminal.
Speaker BSo we got a segue.
Speaker BPartner in crime is absolutely accurate.
Speaker BAnd sitting across me and my partner in time.
Speaker BThe one, the man, the only, the man who only wears quarter zips.
Speaker AQuarter zip king say you don't want everybody.
Speaker AThank you my man.
Speaker AAnd sit behind the desk.
Speaker AWe call him 50 aka Ferrari F50.
Speaker ARegil fighting Virginia.
Speaker AWhat's up my guy?
Speaker AWhat's up everyone?
Speaker ASo if you didn't catch the reference, Regil has actually hit his, his new goal of losing £50.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AI'm down to 195.
Speaker AVery proud of that.
Speaker AAnd a new goal is 180 for the next three months.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AAs are we, man.
Speaker AWe're proud of you too.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd if you want to be like.
Speaker ARegil, you know what to do.
Speaker BYeah, that's right.
Speaker BWhere do they go?
Speaker BSponsored by Fridays.
Speaker BYou can go to join Fridays.com enter in your information, use the code higher.
Speaker BAnd you too can't be like Regil.
Speaker BLean and mean.
Speaker AYeah, he's the after, I'm the before.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker ATake a pick.
Speaker AWell, we got a big episode for everybody tonight.
Speaker AYou know we have to touch even though I know on, on the lives you've already touched on the, everything that's going on in Venezuela.
Speaker ABut we're definitely going to get into all that and what all, all the implications, what does it mean for oil, the oil industry, market implications, all that.
Speaker ABut first we're going to start off with what is going on in the market and how we're hitting record highs.
Speaker BYeah, well I should say was we came off the record highs towards the end of the business day.
Speaker BI did the real, the real time update during the live today where we were at the top of the market for the S and P, the Dow, the nasdaq.
Speaker BBut we traded down towards the end of the day towards closing.
Speaker BSo in between call it like 12:15 to 1:00 clock when the market closed Pacific Standard Time.
Speaker BWe saw the market pull back.
Speaker BNothing to be freaked out about.
Speaker BI mean frankly the market hitting all time highs at any point during a day.
Speaker BIntraday is still noteworthy.
Speaker BSo let's get into it.
Speaker BUS Stocks hit the new highs in record setting start to the year S&P 500 up 0.62% but the total record high was 6944.
Speaker B82.
Speaker BI do think you're going to see 7000 soon.
Speaker BThat's going to happen.
Speaker AThat's definitely going to happen.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BDow Jones up 0.99%.
Speaker BAgain, not a huge number but total record high of 49,462.
Speaker B08 Nasdaq up 0.65% closing price 23,005 4,717.
Speaker BAnd if those numbers don't mean a whole lot to you listening to the show.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AWhat is it?
Speaker AWhat should it mean?
Speaker BWhat should they take they're eating list.
Speaker AWhat should what should the listeners take away?
Speaker ABecause what I took away from it honestly is because it's no secret.
Speaker AGot white paper towel hands, right.
Speaker BYou.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI had no idea.
Speaker ADollar cost averaging is the name of the game for me.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BSo DCA baby.
Speaker AYeah, that's it.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ADca.
Speaker AWhat I take away from numbers like this is, you know, the markets didn't panic.
Speaker AThey didn't go crazy.
Speaker AThey didn't overreact to any of the news of what's going on in Venezuela.
Speaker AThey didn't yesterday and they didn't do it again today.
Speaker BWell, both ways.
Speaker BThey didn't react in a positive way.
Speaker BThey didn't react in a negative way.
Speaker BThere were some outliers in the stock market.
Speaker BWe'll get into why.
Speaker BI think there are some people in some spaces who will benefit from what happened in Venezuela.
Speaker BBut for the most part we kind of anticipated going into it.
Speaker BAnd for those of you who did watch the the live real time on I think it was Saturday was or Saturday or Sunday, I think it was Saturday where we covered Venezuela.
Speaker BWe, we made some predictions in that live that turned out to be true for this week in the stock market and that was largely that nobody would care from a fiscal perspective.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo let's get into a little bit more about the markets before we start getting to the Venezuela stuff because that's pretty heavy.
Speaker BDow closed more than 450 points lower.
Speaker BS&P 500 pulls back from record.
Speaker BThis is live updates from CNBC.
Speaker BI read this in part on the lives as well.
Speaker BYou can see this reoccurring theme here.
Speaker BI want you guys to watch the lives.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BTune in.
Speaker AEven if you tune in and just hit the like button for your boy.
Speaker BThat'S 10% more likes than I had last time.
Speaker BThe S&P 500 in the Dow Jones Industrial Average pulled back from a record level on Wednesday as areas of the market that were hot to start the year lost steam.
Speaker BI think there is going to be an AI fatigue coming.
Speaker BNot that people don't care about the technology.
Speaker BPeople just tired of hearing about the technology and not seeing it implemented.
Speaker AYeah, I mean I think there was, I can't, I can't remember which website.
Speaker AIt was decided, but 50% of the companies out there right now have already adopted some form of AI in their business models.
Speaker ABut if, when I hear that number, I think, well, there's 50% of companies that haven't.
Speaker AAnd there's a lot of opportunity out there for a lot of people, you know, to make some serious money off of this.
Speaker BAnd when I hear that number, because I'm a better friend than you, I think of Regil's recent 50 pound weight loss.
Speaker ADrop it like it's hot.
Speaker A50.
Speaker BSee, he gets it.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BNo, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker BI think that's accurate.
Speaker BIf you remember the life cycle, we talked about AI on the show previously, there is a consistent pattern of behavior that has a maturation cycle and that is you mine the data.
Speaker BYou start building a data warehouse, you start getting real serious about that and you start building the models.
Speaker BThe models work off the data and then you continue to feed those two things to get the best results and then you tailor those results over time.
Speaker BSomebody who's in the AI is going to listen to the show and be like, that's not it, sir.
Speaker BAnd you know what?
Speaker BI'm watering it down, kids.
Speaker BOkay?
Speaker BMost companies at this point in time who've been talking about AI for a prolonged period of time, think about it, 12 months or so have now gotten their arms around the data and have gotten models, they're starting to build out and there's actually third party vendors who are now selling that product.
Speaker BAnd now the AI race is turning out to which company's technology is going to lead the way.
Speaker BYou believe in Gemini?
Speaker BI like Anthropic and Claude.
Speaker BWe've all used ChatGPT.
Speaker BRegil uses Chat CPT, it's the Compton variant.
Speaker BKeep a gangster dog where you at?
Speaker BWe all use some form of AI, right?
Speaker BBut the maturation cycle is going to speed up now.
Speaker BYeah, now people are saying, hey, I'm tired of talking about your, your capital expenditures.
Speaker BShow me results.
Speaker AExactly, show me results.
Speaker AAnd whether you believe we're in an AI bubble or not, if you're trying to look at this information and trying to, you know, gauge, should I invest now?
Speaker AShould I not?
Speaker AWhat you, everyone needs to understand is even if we are in an AI bubble.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThe technology is not going away.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo if, if, if there is a correction, there's all signs are pointing to millions, if not billions, if not trillions of dollars are being poured in, into this technology.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo there's a lot of places where you can invest your dollars to where you can have it, you know, have your money grow.
Speaker AIt could be the semiconductors, it could be robotics, it could be the, you know, the data centers.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThere's ETFs out there for all of these things.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut what I'll say is, is you can also go to different path, right?
Speaker BYeah, not even that.
Speaker BSo I think there are adjacent industries which are going to do really well this year.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BNumber one, I think the energy sector is going to continue to do well because it is an outlier impact to the air bubble.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BI think fuel costs in.
Speaker BAnd energy that comes from, frankly, crude oil is going to see costs go down as volume picks up.
Speaker BI think some of the refineries are going to benefit.
Speaker BWe'll talk more about that later.
Speaker BBut I certainly think that electric, electrical power is going to be one of those things where if you can get into something in that space, you're going to see massive profits over the next five years because the energy requirements to power all of these things.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd even just your home, if you remove the AI, you know, nonsense from the equation and you just think about your home.
Speaker BWe use smart light bulbs.
Speaker AI know.
Speaker BWe have smart interfaces in our homes.
Speaker BOur refrigerators have screens.
Speaker AI know.
Speaker BYou know, not mine.
Speaker BYours.
Speaker BYou're rich.
Speaker BI don't.
Speaker ANo, mine does not.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, just.
Speaker BSo which one in the house?
Speaker AHonestly?
Speaker AOkay, I got suckered in.
Speaker AOkay, True story.
Speaker AI got suckered in to buy the Samsung.
Speaker BSee Regil.
Speaker AThe Samsung refrigerator.
Speaker BPause right there.
Speaker BHold on a second.
Speaker BBack.
Speaker ABack in 2015, 2016, this is what Richie will say.
Speaker BYou know, Reil, I got suckered into buying that Lambo.
Speaker ANo, man, drop the brand.
Speaker ANo, the price.
Speaker AThe price was there.
Speaker AIt was comparable to everything else.
Speaker ASo it looks all fancy and nice.
Speaker ADang that.
Speaker AIt broke down quick.
Speaker AWas it the ice maker?
Speaker AIt was the ice maker, bro Y.
Speaker AAnd then it was under warranty, they came and fixed it and then sure enough, it ended up breaking again.
Speaker ASo then my rule of thumb now is if I'm buying appliances for the house, it's got to be an appliance company that's been around for a long time making kitchen appliances like ge.
Speaker AYeah, not in a notion.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ANot an electronic Company like Samsung.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker ACome on.
Speaker AI'm not gonna lie.
Speaker AIt looked really pretty.
Speaker AWe got a lot of compliments when people came over.
Speaker ALike, that was a nice fridge.
Speaker BHey, Rajille, were you invited over?
Speaker ANo, I wasn't.
Speaker BYeah, me either.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker BThat's awkward.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker AVery similar to how I didn't get invited to Hawaii.
Speaker BNo, you did.
Speaker BNo, you did.
Speaker BWe invited you to Hawaii.
Speaker BWe just knew that you wouldn't wear a bikini.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ASo there you go.
Speaker BWe just knew that you weren't going to be in a bathing suit.
Speaker BAnd Rajeel and I effectively wore Speedos the entire time.
Speaker ASee, I'm okay with that.
Speaker AI actually did.
Speaker AMy shorts were Speedos.
Speaker BOh, yeah, Take that in.
Speaker BTake that in.
Speaker BTake that.
Speaker BHe's not lying.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BBetween Diddy and Venezuela's president in prison, it could be a fun time.
Speaker BAnd the oil community's out there shook, bro.
Speaker BThere's been a lot of changes out there.
Speaker BWe should talk about it.
Speaker AAnd Tekashi turned himself in going to the same prison.
Speaker BHe was in the same prison.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI think he did it on purpose.
Speaker BOh.
Speaker AHe's like, I got to know.
Speaker BI gotta.
Speaker AThis is gonna be.
Speaker AI'm gonna write a book when I get out of here.
Speaker BDid you see the.
Speaker BIn regio.
Speaker BDon't look this up.
Speaker BDid you see that?
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BThe Trump over Tekashi interviews.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AHonestly, Maybe.
Speaker AMaybe the best use case, by the way.
Speaker AI swear to God.
Speaker AMaybe the greatest form of content I've seen so far in 2026.
Speaker BBest use case for AI I've seen yet.
Speaker AIt's the best.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThe best.
Speaker BYou see the ones where he's dancing?
Speaker AI've seen the ones where he's dancing.
Speaker AThose I don't like so much.
Speaker AI just like the one where he's like, I went in there and I took it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou're a terrible human being.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BFinancials and energy, two of the sectors that started off 2026 strong saw losses during the trading day with both declining more than 1%.
Speaker BBank stocks that ended the session lower included JP Morgan, bank of America, and Wells Fargo.
Speaker BMeanwhile, ExxonMobil, Chevron, and ConocoPhillips were key laggards in the energy space.
Speaker BAnd people are gonna be like, well, wait a minute, why aren't they benefiting from the oil?
Speaker BWe're gonna cover that.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BI don't think that you're gonna see a lot of these larger oil companies.
Speaker BChevron might be an outlier.
Speaker BSo Chevron, historically, for people who don't.
Speaker AKnow Chevron's already there.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BChevron's already there.
Speaker BThey acquired a company which was already in.
Speaker BIn Venezuela before they nationalized the oil industry.
Speaker BI'm gonna put a big asterisk on this whole oil, crude oil conversation.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BRight off the gate.
Speaker BI know what I said on the lives and I know what the media is saying about Venezuela having more oil than any other country in the world.
Speaker B303 million barrels come from, you know, come from there.
Speaker AThere's a big but there.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWhat's the but?
Speaker BSite.
Speaker AThey only produce, I think less than 1% of the world's oil barrels per day.
Speaker BYeah, but that isn't the asterisk and that is.
Speaker BSo we know their production is as you noted, like less than the US which produces about 49 to 50 million barrels.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AI mean there's like 800,000.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThere had.
Speaker BSo their infrastructure decreased significantly when the company now or the country nationalized the oil supply.
Speaker BThe government said, hey, we own this.
Speaker BYay.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BChevron was the only US Based company to stay there.
Speaker BAnd then the infrastructure to actually get the crude oil out of the ground went away.
Speaker BNow, I don't know if you guys have ever seen crude oil before.
Speaker BCrude oil is really thick and like are like.
Speaker AYeah, right, exactly right.
Speaker BSweet oil like we get out of Texas is really clear.
Speaker BResembles more like gasoline.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ABut there are I think like six refineries in the U.S. right.
Speaker BAll in Texas and Louisiana.
Speaker AAll in Texas and Louisiana.
Speaker AThat, that primarily work on crude oil.
Speaker BAnd the US has more of them than anybody else.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYe.
Speaker BSo keep, so keep my.
Speaker BFor example, in Kuwait, in Iran, in Libya, in Iraq and Saudi Arabia, it all comes to the Strait of Hermos.
Speaker BAnd when it comes to the Strait of Hermos in that, in and around that region there, that is generally sweet oil, not crude oil.
Speaker BAnd it is harder to get here than it is to get from Venezuela to the US It's a much easier route, but the crude oil takes a whole lot more work to refine.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo what I will say is I think if you dump a lot more oil supply into the, into the ecosystem, it brings oil costs down over time.
Speaker BSo any benefit you're going to get as a gas company of selling more gas is probably going to be offset by the fact there's just way more gasoline out there to sell.
Speaker BSo supply and demand.
Speaker BBut I will say the asterisk that I wanted to give everybody out at the top is I know that everybody's citing these numbers, myself included, but we don't really know how Much oil Venezuela has, that's actually just self proclaimed oil.
Speaker BOh, really?
Speaker BYeah, that's never really been validated.
Speaker BAnd if you're a country who nationalized oil, it's kind of in your interest to be like, nah, we have all of it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BHow much does Saudi Arabia have?
Speaker BOr.
Speaker BJill, we got, we got 100 million more.
Speaker AYeah, we're right, right.
Speaker AIt's true.
Speaker B200 million.
Speaker BWe get 300 million.
Speaker BYeah, 300 million.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThat's kind of the way.
Speaker ANobody out there to validate it.
Speaker BThere's really no validation here.
Speaker BAnd so everyone's like, oh, for all we know, they don't have any.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo it's a, you know, a little questionable to say the least.
Speaker BSo here's what's really going to happen.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BIf you were going to get the benefit of being a shipper, okay, maybe near term, long term it's going to level out, right.
Speaker BIf you're going to be like a gas producer, like Chevron, Chevron's going to benefit near term.
Speaker BAnd they spiked like 11% the day, the day after, I think on Monday, the first trading day.
Speaker BOkay, fine.
Speaker BThey traded, they traded high because they're there first to react, but to get the infrastructure in place even.
Speaker BAnd we'll get into some of Trump's comments.
Speaker BHe came out and said, we run the country now.
Speaker AYeah, we got it.
Speaker BWait, what, what do you mean?
Speaker AJust like that, right?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd so how much of this.
Speaker AThere's a lot of talk going around.
Speaker AI'm curious to get your take on this.
Speaker BOh, there you go.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHow much of this do you think really had to do with the idea of them partaking in de dollarization?
Speaker BThey also have a ton of bitcoin there, which is another noteworthy commentary.
Speaker BBefore we get to that, let me get to the rest of the articles that I want to cover here before.
Speaker AWe get to this because I think.
Speaker BI set it up right.
Speaker AThat part of the conversation I think is, is the most fascinating part about all of this.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBecause no, there's another thing you haven't checked.
Speaker BThis one caught me totally off guard.
Speaker BI didn't think about.
Speaker BThere is a geopolitical conflict that we'll do it now.
Speaker BBut there's more to get to this later on that people generally missed when it came to this.
Speaker BOkay, the oil is nice.
Speaker BOkay, we want oil.
Speaker BGreat.
Speaker BLovely gumdrops and lollipops.
Speaker BJill, would you like some oil?
Speaker BOh, yeah, I would like.
Speaker AI want all the oil.
Speaker AI want all the oils, just not from Johnson and Johnson oh, baby, not, not none of that.
Speaker AI got somebody in trouble last time you wanted something.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIn any event, there's also some interesting pressure where one of the largest receivers of oil from Venezuela was China.
Speaker ANo, that part I knew.
Speaker AActually.
Speaker AThe part that I knew which was the most shocking to me was they were hours away from certain high level members of their government, hours away from getting there to meet with them.
Speaker AAnd then that's when we stepped in.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker AThe boys got sent in.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThere was also a relationship with Russia, which destabilizes that relationship as well.
Speaker BIt was a brilliant chess move at a very precise time.
Speaker BBut I don't think it was the rhetoric of the President.
Speaker BI don't think there was a weird time sensitivity.
Speaker BI think all of this had a lot to do with the fact that there are midterm elections coming up where the Republicans could lose part of the House.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ALook, it's, it's no secret.
Speaker AA lot of the world.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AA lot of the world doesn't like the way the US does business.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAnd when things don't go, when the US lays out the rules, and if you don't play by the rules, okay, then we step in and we take over.
Speaker AAnd now we make sure.
Speaker APlay by the rules.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BYou, not we.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo, I mean, the best, I think the best.
Speaker AOne of most recent case examples that we could cite is when Russia invaded Ukraine, the US froze like over $300 billion worth of, you know, Russia's like funds dollars and we sanctioned it and we kept it.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BOops.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd it's like a lot of, a lot of the world's probably like, hey, hey, you can't just do that.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AAnd they're like, yes, we can.
Speaker AWe can do whatever we want.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker ASo, so that's the reason why there's this whole movement with a bunch of other countries, like, look at brics, that they want to, you know, really ramp up de dollarization and.
Speaker BYeah, and so there's a whole.
Speaker BAnd they, they went this whole bitcoin route, which if you're into nefarious activities, that also serves as a nice little way to hide how much money you're getting.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker ASo, and, and with a lot of, a lot of the oil market in the industry, you probably attest to this more when it's sold.
Speaker AIt's sold in US dollars.
Speaker AVenezuela started to dabble into the fact that we're going to sell it in, you know, what is it?
Speaker AI don't even know how to Pronounce it yuan, yuan dollars, Chinese dollars.
Speaker AAnd they're like, no, you're not, you're not going to do that.
Speaker AYou're not going to go off the petrodollar system.
Speaker AYou're going to continue to do this way.
Speaker AAnd when they dabbled into it the other way, they're like, okay, we got to send in the boys.
Speaker BYeah, there's a lot there.
Speaker BThe boys, huh?
Speaker AThe boys, yeah.
Speaker BYo, he looked pretty good in the jumpsuit though.
Speaker BNot going to lie.
Speaker BNike tech, please.
Speaker BReally, no one's going to comment on that, bro.
Speaker AEverybody, that's all I can focus on.
Speaker AI was like, nike stock went up.
Speaker BI thought it was the Takashi photo until somebody told me it was Maduro.
Speaker ABro, I bought.
Speaker ASo I bought that track jacket.
Speaker ANot the whole suit.
Speaker BCuz I have the whole suit.
Speaker BOkay?
Speaker AI bought that track jacket, right?
Speaker AAnd when I, when I got it from Dick Sporting Goods, I got to say the full name there for you.
Speaker AI got to say the full name for you there.
Speaker AToo mature for me not to.
Speaker BWhat are you talking about?
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BI thought she was looking up.
Speaker AIt's lit.
Speaker AIt's literally.
Speaker AIt's literally the.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AIt was the only piece of clothing that was like chained down at Dick's to where they have to have a special key to release it.
Speaker AThey said this holiday season every single store of ours has been broken into and people were stealing those jackets.
Speaker BYeah, I'm sure they were the same.
Speaker AOne that was on your boy.
Speaker BIronically, not a huge bump in the stock price for Nike for having tracksuit be very visible.
Speaker BWho knew?
Speaker ANo, but they did have a bump in the stock price recently because Tim Cook bought like crazy amount of shares.
Speaker BYeah, him and some other person bought a bunch of stock.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ATheory is.
Speaker ATheory is they're going to sign Steph.
Speaker BYeah, maybe.
Speaker BWho cares?
Speaker BGood for.
Speaker BGood for Steph.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BI'm actually more excited about a completely different detail relates to this whole thing.
Speaker BI have never in my life gone into my wardrobe and thought, I have the same thing as president does in my wardrobe.
Speaker AWe got the same thing.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker AYeah, you do.
Speaker ACome on.
Speaker BMaduro.
Speaker BAnd I know, I mean, I got jackets and suits and stuff like that, but like, I would generally speaking not be caught dead or caught.
Speaker BAnd most of the stuff is something these dudes are wearing.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BThat's valid like a quarter zip.
Speaker BI wouldn't do that.
Speaker AWhy not, huh?
Speaker AQuarter zips are the way, bro.
Speaker AYou're missing out.
Speaker BWhy don't you just have the handcuffs of corporate America on your wrist right now.
Speaker AWhat do you mean?
Speaker AThis is Nike, bro.
Speaker AThis is.
Speaker AWhen I put this on, I feel like I am Tiger Woods.
Speaker BNo, that.
Speaker BThis is his way of saying, look, I'm cool, everybody.
Speaker BI'm hip, I'm athletic, I'm cool.
Speaker AYeah, look, I got these hips don't lie.
Speaker BShakira and I, okay?
Speaker BBut I have to go into work.
Speaker AI get right.
Speaker BSo I do that with a Nike quarter zip.
Speaker BSee, I'm not buying into your culture.
Speaker ASee what I'm doing?
Speaker BI know what you're doing.
Speaker ASee what I'm doing?
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BDon't.
Speaker BDon't do chosen one.
Speaker BWell, some kids 67 me the other day.
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker BNo, you almost slapped.
Speaker AYou said six.
Speaker AYou're realizing you say it more than.
Speaker AMore than you.
Speaker BI was.
Speaker BNo, bro, I was in the storage unit.
Speaker BCuz I was moving the storage unit the other night, right?
Speaker BLate at night, it's like 10 o'.
Speaker AClock.
Speaker BAnd this like 12 year old comes on the corner.
Speaker BHe has all the carts.
Speaker BAlso all the carts.
Speaker BAnd he's taking.
Speaker BI don't know where his parents are.
Speaker BI wasn't one adult, right?
Speaker BAnd I walk up to him and he's got like seven cards and it's just him, so he can't push seven cards.
Speaker BI just need one cart to move a bed, okay?
Speaker BFrom my storage unit is 10 by 10, and the one is 10 by 5.
Speaker BIt's late.
Speaker BI worked a full day.
Speaker BI'm tired.
Speaker BI haven't seen you all day.
Speaker BSo I got no cuddles, right?
Speaker AYou know, just looked at me on the screen.
Speaker BYeah, well, no, I looked at Brigille, but you too, I guess.
Speaker BWink, wink, nudge, nudge for Jill into.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I go up to him, hey, man, is it cool if I get a card?
Speaker BAnd he goes, six, seven.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, wait, what?
Speaker AThere was no reference.
Speaker BAnd he just looked at me and he goes, six, seven.
Speaker BAnd then he walked off.
Speaker BAnd I'm like this little man.
Speaker BI'm not gonna be the hip guy who chastises him.
Speaker AI'm not gonna lie.
Speaker ASo I thought I was in the clear with the whole 6, 7.
Speaker ABecause according to my son, it's no longer cool.
Speaker AThere's new numbers now, right?
Speaker AThere's 41 and all 41, right.
Speaker AI don't get that one.
Speaker AI thought we were in the clear, right?
Speaker AAnd then today, this morning, I wake up, my son's up early making a flipbook, right?
Speaker BBecause that's what I do when I wake up.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AHe's, he's into this whole flipbook thing right now.
Speaker AI'm like, okay, cool, whatever.
Speaker AYeah, he's making a flip book.
Speaker AAnd it's a flip book about six.
Speaker BSeven, six is morphing into sevens.
Speaker AI'm like, come on man.
Speaker BHey man.
Speaker BA plus for creativity, son.
Speaker BCome on, man, you're going to be solving the world's problems one day.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker AImagine me, imagine me coming downstairs just being like, oh, what's on going Good morning son.
Speaker AHow you doing?
Speaker AOh, you making a flip book.
Speaker AI'm so proud.
Speaker AOh yeah, highs and lows.
Speaker BStarted, started off good.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWell, let's get back into it.
Speaker BBeyond the energy struggles, crude oil prices dropped.
Speaker BDo me a favor, would you look at WTI crude when you get a chance, you can go to cnbc.com and it's on the oil tab up top.
Speaker BDropped in the heels of President Donald Trump saying that in the interim, authorities in Venezuela will be turning over as much as 50 million barrels of oil to the US spurring concerns over increased oil supply.
Speaker BNot the way everybody thought it was going to go.
Speaker BIn the conversation on here you have crude oil futures at 56, 21 so and you see a small drop off but generally pretty healthy.
Speaker BIt was again a huge non event.
Speaker BSo my thoughts on this, click on that link down below there, the CNBC one that, yeah, right there.
Speaker B56, 2122 cents ish 0.36 up on the day.
Speaker BSo nothing.
Speaker BI mean, look at it throughout the day.
Speaker BIt didn't really do a whole lot.
Speaker BIt was kind of flat.
Speaker BLook, I know the chart looks like it's all aggressive, but it's really not.
Speaker BSo you got a lack of significant movement in the price of a barrel of crude oil and in our opinion is a vote of confidence that we're still far from being tight from a supply demand standpoint.
Speaker BKeith Buchanan, senior portfolio manager at globalt Investments.
Speaker BIt's a weird name, so I say it weirdly.
Speaker BThere's a significant risk of oversupply that's on the horizon that nobody's talking about, but we'll get there.
Speaker BWhat's happened in South America hasn't changed the prospect for growth in the US from an equity market standpoint, Buchanan said.
Speaker BI think that there's some complacency from appreciating the overall geopolitical risks that are going, that are growing in our opinion.
Speaker BBut we don't feel like what's happening in Venezuela has moved the needle in that regard up or down.
Speaker BHe continued.
Speaker BThat to me was crazy.
Speaker AOkay, why?
Speaker BSo I want you guys to think to this weekend, right, you're doing whatever you're doing, and wham, right across the wire you get, we're invading Venezuela and we're taking their president, and now we're gonna charge him for criminal actions.
Speaker BI expected Iran controversy, people rioting in the streets or like Iraq.
Speaker BNo, no, I mean, I understand he was a terrible dictator.
Speaker BThere's a whole bunch of reasons why he wouldn't.
Speaker BBut there wasn't any civil unrest in the country.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd again, I get it.
Speaker BIt's a democratic country, so they had a vice president lined up.
Speaker BShe's very similar in her socialism stance than Maduro was, but she seems to be a little more liked, I guess, from, from what rhetoric I've.
Speaker BI've been able to glean from.
Speaker BFrom media from then till now.
Speaker BBut there wasn't a lot of civil unrest in the country.
Speaker BAs a matter of fact, the headlines were strange because it was our president saying, we're going in there, we're gonna run it now.
Speaker BYeah, we're, you know, we're sending our oil companies in there to improve their infrastructure now.
Speaker BAnd you're like, wait, what?
Speaker AMan?
Speaker AIt was, it's very.
Speaker AIt was very similar playbook to the.
Speaker AWhat they did with Saddam in Iraq.
Speaker BA lot of civil unrest there.
Speaker BAs a matter of fact, I don't know if you guys are watching the headlines lately, and I know we're not a political show, but ironically, we always talk about politics.
Speaker ADude, I know we can't.
Speaker AWe can't help.
Speaker BCan't divorce yourself from it.
Speaker AYou can't.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's all interwoven.
Speaker BYou can't.
Speaker BYeah, just.
Speaker AWhat are we supposed to do?
Speaker AJust ignore it?
Speaker BYeah, I think you can.
Speaker BSo what happens?
Speaker BI.
Speaker BAt least my feet, anyway, on social media was all, Iran in their social protests.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BSo I'm sitting here thinking, like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker BWe just went into Venezuela, a South American country.
Speaker BWe took their president literally in a fly ass tracksuit, right?
Speaker BPut some glasses and headphones on him and flew him to New York to be charged with trial on Monday, where he shockingly pled not guilty.
Speaker BWho knew?
Speaker AI'm trying to understand.
Speaker AAll the photos I saw was him, like, giving two thumbs up.
Speaker AI didn't understand it, like, why I.
Speaker BThink his handcuffs were locked.
Speaker ANo, he went like this, bro.
Speaker BIt was like, maybe he meant it in the Middle Eastern way where that means the middle finger.
Speaker AIt does mean the middle finger.
Speaker AYou're right.
Speaker BMaybe he was just trying to like, talk to the homies, Yo, Saudis, come get me.
Speaker BYeah, you know, I don't know, but so the, the, all the things that I was reading online about civil unrest were in the Middle East.
Speaker BSo that is clearly strange from a geopolitical standpoint.
Speaker BLike, we just did this with one ruthless dictator.
Speaker BAre we thinking about doing this there?
Speaker BLike.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWhere does that all play out?
Speaker BBecause clearly the social attentions on something very different than what the political one is.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BOr maybe it's not because we didn't get any heads up and neither did Congress about any of these things.
Speaker BSo for all we know, I mean, we could turn on the TV this weekend and be like, oh, my God, they went into Iran, they took a bunch of people out.
Speaker BAnd at this point in time, you.
Speaker BIt seems, again, I'm.
Speaker BI don't know, it seems like you'll have more support from the people than you otherwise would have historically.
Speaker BI'm not saying it'll be like Venezuela, where there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of civil unrest around and people just didn't like them.
Speaker BThere will be some people who are loyal.
Speaker AI'm sure there's.
Speaker AI'm sure there's a good, A good portion of the population that recognize that, you know, them eventually ending up as a, as a failed state was inevitable on the route that they were going, Right?
Speaker BMaybe.
Speaker ASo maybe they think that this is, this is a way out.
Speaker BYeah, well, I mean, there's a whole.
Speaker BI have a personal connection to Iran and the Middle east in general.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BI, I have seen pictures from my father's, like, childhood there, Right.
Speaker BIn, like, the early 70s, before the Shah of Iran came in, and all the stuff that was changed.
Speaker BIt was a very westernized or westernizing country.
Speaker AAfghanistan, too.
Speaker BAfghanistan too, yeah.
Speaker BSuits and ties, women in bikinis and beaches, like all the iconic 60s imagery.
Speaker APeople wouldn't believe it.
Speaker ADude, I know.
Speaker AThey were well on their way.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker BAnd then you had some hardliners came in from a religious, you know, pitch, and they, they basically turn the country into a religious nation, which I think most people there that I know aren't, like, entirely in support of.
Speaker BI mean, there's a whole confluence of political backdrop there, but it's certainly a very different landscape today than it once was.
Speaker BSo it's interesting to see how there are still people who hold on to.
Speaker BAnd there's really no clear.
Speaker BAnd I like, I look at it as much as I want to, like, criticize the country, I think to myself, well, the US Is not A whole lot different from its extremism.
Speaker BWe're not extreme over religion, we're extreme over politics.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AThe system is designed that way to be that way.
Speaker BAnd I can't help but think, like, okay, we look at them, we go, oh, there's so many people don't like them.
Speaker BHow many of them are looking at us going like, oh, God, people don't like their president.
Speaker BYou know, I mean, who knows?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BBut the rhetoric that's going out versus the rhetoric that's coming in, it's always filtered.
Speaker BAlways.
Speaker BYou ever been, like, out of the country and looked at, like, gone to other museums?
Speaker BMm.
Speaker BI'll never forget.
Speaker BI went to the Vietnam War Museum in Vietnam.
Speaker BOh, talk about a different pitch on what America was.
Speaker ANo way.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI'll save you some of the ugly, gory details, but there were very visible and palpable examples of, like, us corruption and wrongfulness in a museum.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BIs wrongfulness a word?
Speaker BWrongdoing.
Speaker BWrongdoing.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BDon't be, don't, don't smartass me, boy.
Speaker ASat vocabulary wrongdoing.
Speaker BWe're just gonna move on cnbc, Trump says US Oil companies will invest billions of dollars in Venezuela.
Speaker BAlluding to what we were alluding to earlier, President Donald Trump on Saturday, according to Instagram.
Speaker BCNBC via Instagram, because that's where I get all my relevant news, said the US Oil companies will invest this money.
Speaker BWe're going to have our very large United States oil companies, the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure, the oil infrastructure, Trump said in a press conference from his Mar A Lago restaurant and residence in Palm Beach, Florida.
Speaker BLet's start making money for the country, Trump said.
Speaker ANoble.
Speaker AThat's noble, bro.
Speaker BYou know, if you took this out of context and spun it around.
Speaker BYeah, we're going to go into the bedroom, ok?
Speaker BWe're going to have the best experience in anywhere in the world, the absolute best.
Speaker BWe're gonna go in, we're gonna spend hours.
Speaker BSaeed.
Speaker BAnd we're gonna fix your broken infrastructure.
Speaker ALet's start making.
Speaker AI'm gonna start making some.
Speaker AHow.
Speaker BSome money for the house, the bedroom infrastructure.
Speaker BLet's start giving you pleasure.
Speaker AYou can do that by joining Fridays@join Fridays.com.
Speaker BBad Plug.
Speaker BBad plug.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BBut.
Speaker AYeah, man, I don't.
Speaker AI, I'm.
Speaker AHe also went on to say, it's going to take about 18 months.
Speaker AI actually think it's going to take longer and I think that it will.
Speaker AYeah, I think that's the reason why you didn't see a whole lot of volatility in.
Speaker AIn the markets right away.
Speaker ABecause I think people understand that.
Speaker BWell, so play this out.
Speaker BAnd this is.
Speaker BThere's also an element here that I think people don't understand from the long term.
Speaker BNear term, okay, Chevron gets a bump, you got 11% day one.
Speaker BNear term, you're there, you're gonna get some kind of benefit.
Speaker BWe don't know that's gonna look like.
Speaker BBut everybody, all the retail and everybody went in saying, okay, Chevron's only one there.
Speaker BWe can put our money there.
Speaker BOkay, you got three different categories.
Speaker BShippers, refiners, producers.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BProducers, Chevron shippers, you know, whatever transport company you want.
Speaker BI listed them on the show.
Speaker BThey're in the show notes.
Speaker BRefiners.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BIf you're shipping oil and you're producing oil, sorry to say, more in the market means more supply, less demand.
Speaker BOkay, Sorry.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe only people who are really going to benefit are the crude oil facilities that are just going to have more crude oil to refine.
Speaker BThat's it.
Speaker BAnd that even in and of itself, you got to get there, spend the money, get the resources, get the infrastructure in place.
Speaker BLet's assume, he said they've agreed to send 50 million barrels of oil, whatever the hell it is, our way.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BDoubling US Production effectively.
Speaker BFine.
Speaker BGreat.
Speaker BGlamorous.
Speaker BOver what time frame?
Speaker BDid you hear a time frame?
Speaker AI didn't hear a time frame.
Speaker BRajeel, did you hear a time frame?
Speaker AI did not hear a time frame.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BSay, if you're my friend for the rest of my life, I'm gonna give.
Speaker AYou a million dollars for the rest of your life.
Speaker AWhen do I get that million dollars?
Speaker BDon't worry about that.
Speaker BI'm gonna give you a million dollars.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou just have to outlive me.
Speaker BNo, no, I'll give it to you over time.
Speaker BYeah, you'll get that while I'm committing to giving it to you.
Speaker AI need the time.
Speaker BNo, I can't do that.
Speaker BYeah, I can't do that.
Speaker BI can't do that.
Speaker BThere's too many unknown variables here.
Speaker BSo if you're the stock market, how could you invest in that?
Speaker BSo how are you going to invest?
Speaker BYou're not going out and spend a million dollars.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BSo the stock market didn't go out and put their money into something they don't have any conclusions to.
Speaker BThey know there's a process in place for the future.
Speaker BThey know that the US May or may not Be the.
Speaker BThis could very easily turn into the Venezuela starting a war with us.
Speaker BThat's an extreme case.
Speaker BYou start into there being a new person.
Speaker BSo everybody thought the Nobel Peace winner from Venezuela was going to step in and she was going to be like this, like, well loved.
Speaker BI want a peace prize.
Speaker BYeah, right, yeah.
Speaker BNot to be confused with your laureate, right?
Speaker AThat's different.
Speaker AThat's completely different.
Speaker BYou've got a different laureate in economics.
Speaker BGreen jacket, right?
Speaker AGreen jacket.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BNori over Beanie may have one too.
Speaker AThat's fine.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AThat's fine.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I think there was a bit of stigma going into Monday.
Speaker BPeople thought, okay, was market going to tank because of fear of war.
Speaker BAnd no, you didn't get that socially.
Speaker BThe media wasn't covering it because it wasn't there.
Speaker BThen you got all these statements that said the US Is going to go in there and do all these things.
Speaker BBut there's no timeline, there's no time frame.
Speaker BAnd largely people expect this to take a long time.
Speaker BAnd even if you play it out over time, over years, let's say you get the oil infrastructure in place, let's say you get the shipping going, everything going, you're selling more oil, but you're selling it for less dollars, kind of even, right?
Speaker BYou're shipping more oil.
Speaker BOkay, maybe as a shipper you make more money, but if you do more shipments, it kind of bleeds out over time.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BThere's going to be a whole lot of value there.
Speaker BThey're not going to make a whole hell of a lot more money.
Speaker BThe refiners will produce more oil and they'll make more money initially.
Speaker BBut again, a lot of this just winds up costing us US Citizens less money over time.
Speaker BThat's true.
Speaker ABut what, what else we did see in the markets when all this went down and even through today is a lot, a lot of times investors get, get this wrong.
Speaker AThey think the stock market, stocks and gold work opposite of one another.
Speaker AIf stocks are doing well, gold, gold is staying pretty stagnant.
Speaker AOr if gold's doing well, I mean, the stock market's going down.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALook, we just talked about it.
Speaker AAt some point in the day, you know, S&P 500 and the Dow hit a new record high.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABut gold also creeped up.
Speaker AAnd that is the market telling you that uncertainty is increasing.
Speaker AWhen there's geopolitical unrest and uncertainty.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALack of stability, gold tends to increase.
Speaker AAnd that's exactly what's been happening.
Speaker BWell, we're going to talk about that later on in the show as well.
Speaker BVIX fear gauge is somewhat decoupled.
Speaker BWe've talked about on previous shows that employment and price stability.
Speaker BThe Fed's dual mandate may have decoupled because of some of the technological implications that we're seeing here because of the lagging data.
Speaker BYou're seeing unemployment move up as earnings continue to be profitable and dividends continue to happen.
Speaker BWell, there's something to be said for the fact that you can have fear in the markets and the markets improve.
Speaker BToday was a great example.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThe day started off with The Vix around 14.
Speaker BThe fear gauge.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BStarted around 14 and then closed out above 15, I want to say.
Speaker BWas it?
Speaker BYeah, look.
Speaker BYou looking at the VIX for me?
Speaker BYeah, 15.38.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BHe's playing hide the sausage with the price there.
Speaker B15.38.
Speaker BAbout 1 point higher.
Speaker BAgain, not in my mind.
Speaker BIn scary territory.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI think, I mean, look at that.
Speaker A52 week high was at 60.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I think anything above 20, you're starting to get some, some tension and some stress in the markets.
Speaker BBut below 20, you know, you can have this creep up.
Speaker BNow.
Speaker BIs it weird to have it creep up on a day we hit all time market highs?
Speaker BYeah, that's pretty weird.
Speaker BSo I think there's some material decoupling in the market which in my mind are also indicative of bubble.
Speaker BAnd people always go, okay, well, hey, Chris.
Speaker BHey, Bubble scary bubbles burst?
Speaker BNot always.
Speaker BSometimes they float away in the sky.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker BSometimes they, you know, they just get smaller and smaller and smaller and they want to be a little shriveled balloon in the corner of your house that nobody plays anymore.
Speaker AYou know, it just sits there.
Speaker BYeah, it just sits there.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThen it gets all sticky.
Speaker AEw.
Speaker BBut it's still a bubble, right?
Speaker ANever touch a sticky bubble.
Speaker BOh, I can show you.
Speaker BI don't care.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BBut yeah, we are absolutely in a market bubble.
Speaker BBut what I would keep telling people is I have yet to hear the data.
Speaker BAnd this is going to be a recurring theme of the second part of our episode later tonight.
Speaker BI have yet to hear the data which actually supports the narrative that we are in a bubble and it's going to burst.
Speaker BYes, we're in a bubble for sure.
Speaker BIs it going to burst?
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BBased on what?
Speaker BWhat's going to blow consumer credit?
Speaker BNot yet.
Speaker BMaybe.
Speaker BBut what's going to be the catalyst?
Speaker AA lot of the CEOs from the Max 7 though are even now starting to touch and hint on that.
Speaker AWe might Be in an AI bubble.
Speaker BBecause they are.
Speaker BIt's undeniable.
Speaker AIt's a nice way for them to hedge their bets too.
Speaker ABe like, look, yeah, we are a little overvalued.
Speaker ASo when it does come down, nobody panic.
Speaker AI told you this was going to happen.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI mean, you can't spend the type of capital expenditures they're going to put out over the next couple of years and not have a bubble form.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThey're making a ton of money.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker BBut they're not giving it back to the employees and they're not giving it back to everybody else.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BSo, you know, grain of salt there.
Speaker BLet's.
Speaker AI mean, so all, all of these companies are dumping tons of money in.
Speaker AInto AI, Right.
Speaker AThey're trying to.
Speaker AThe big conversation is who's going to win the AI race?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AWho's going to get to AGI?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BDo.
Speaker BI don't really know that AGI.
Speaker BI don't think there's that meaningful.
Speaker AI don't think that.
Speaker AWell, I don't think you ever.
Speaker AThere's an end, right?
Speaker BNo, there's never an end.
Speaker AThere's never going to be an endless day.
Speaker BLet's say you get AGI and I get AGI.
Speaker BWe won't have.
Speaker BWe both have these individual, like computers that can talk and do things on their own and they're individual individuals, let's say.
Speaker AForget us that are here.
Speaker AI'm saying if, if, if you're competing against China.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ALet's just.
Speaker AYou think we're going to know?
Speaker AYou think we're going to know that they got there first?
Speaker AHonestly, ask yourself that question.
Speaker BWell, it depends what they can do with it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIf it's the naughty stuff, you're never gonna know.
Speaker BIf it's the good stuff, they're gonna be, oh, look at all the cool stuff we can do.
Speaker BThis is the problem though too.
Speaker BThere's so much like.
Speaker BSo we use the moon landing as a proxy.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThe narrative is we didn't make it to the moon.
Speaker BWe just wanted China to feel like we made it to the moon.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker BThat's China and Russia.
Speaker BHey, guys, look.
Speaker BWe made it to the moon.
Speaker BWe did it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWhy is that flag we're not waving?
Speaker AI don't know why.
Speaker AIt's you.
Speaker AIt's you.
Speaker AYou were the one that saw all those reels and then Instagram thought, oh, you talked to Chris a lot.
Speaker AWe should send you those reels.
Speaker ACuz I'm getting all of those reels, right?
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker BI.
Speaker BConspiracy Theory the hell out of your feet.
Speaker AYeah, bro.
Speaker BI'm that guy.
Speaker AI know you're that guy.
Speaker BI'm like, I read it all, dude.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BLittle green men.
Speaker AI don't want to.
Speaker BGray men.
Speaker AI don't want to.
Speaker AI don't want to touch it.
Speaker ABut some of that stuff is pretty damning.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's like, come on, do better.
Speaker BI'm.
Speaker BI'm pretty sure.
Speaker AHey, do better.
Speaker BYou know?
Speaker BLook, I'm going to go ahead and say it, okay.
Speaker BThere's aliens underneath pyramids.
Speaker BBut I said it.
Speaker BThere's aliens there.
Speaker ADone.
Speaker BZoe Hawass is not like the guy I want representing my country.
Speaker BYou try to talk to that guy and he's like, no, you're crazy.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BThere are no aliens.
Speaker BAnd you're like, prove it.
Speaker BNo, I don't need to.
Speaker AI don't need.
Speaker BI know everything about Egypt.
Speaker BAnd you're like, zoe, he's kids, like, goes on Joe Rogan's podcast, Fights with Joe Rogan about it.
Speaker BYou're like, come on, dog, read the room.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BThere's only two people in it.
Speaker ARight, right, right.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo it's just, you know, I'm just saying I want people to know that I'm not as intelligent as we might sound on the show.
Speaker BSo if you think that, oh, Chris had this opinion on stuff on Venezuela and he was at one of being right on some of the predictions that he made.
Speaker BIt's not because I'm smart.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt's because I actually read an article about somebody else for who wrote it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThis is from, say.
Speaker BHe's like, look at the handoff I just made.
Speaker BIt wasn't obvious.
Speaker ALet me.
Speaker ALet me get.
Speaker ALet me get it in.
Speaker BAlliance.
Speaker AStop.
Speaker BDon't ever say to me again.
Speaker BAlliance, Global investors from Venezuela.
Speaker BInstability, market implications.
Speaker BThis is from August 12, 2025.
Speaker BThey just happened to write an article about this, which to me says maybe people knew.
Speaker BYeah, maybe they knew.
Speaker BThree bullet points right at the top, which I think are the only real meaningful parts to take home here.
Speaker BThere's a lot more detail, but you don't need it if you listen to this show.
Speaker BWe think the most likely scenario in Venezuela is a continuation of the status quo or regime change involving an orderly transition to a more pro Western government.
Speaker BCheck.
Speaker AContinuation of the status quo or regime change.
Speaker AI feel like those are.
Speaker AThose are.
Speaker AI feel like those are two different things, aren't they?
Speaker AYeah, well, I mean, isn't the stat.
Speaker AIsn't the status quo like, hey, let our.
Speaker ALet our vice President step in.
Speaker AThat would be, that would be a status quo or a full regime change.
Speaker BThe whole thing, an orderly transition to a full westernized regime.
Speaker BI think you got the latter, you know, but, you know, whatever, ok, whatever.
Speaker BWe don't know what remains to be seen.
Speaker BNumber two, given the potential for Venezuela's bigger role in oil markets and growing competition between the US and China in South America, we think it is important to explore the potential transmission channels and market implications.
Speaker BWhat we term the Venezuela trades.
Speaker BBasically saying, hey man, the Chinese government's coming in there and they're going to try to do some deals and cut us out.
Speaker BWe better get in there and explore the territories.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd they know, they know that, okay, US is now going to dump more dollars into the infrastructure there so that they are going to play a bigger role than what they're currently doing.
Speaker AI mean, right now, right now they're producing less than 1% of all the oil in the world.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ASo any.
Speaker AIt's only going up from here.
Speaker AIt's not, it's.
Speaker ASo, yeah, they're going to take it on a bigger role.
Speaker BCan you imagine if we just like literally start calling it the United States of Venezuela?
Speaker AThat's it, bro.
Speaker BWe own you now.
Speaker BAll right, Number three, we think there is the potential for short term gains for oil prices during instability, but likely lower prices over the longer term if Venezuela raises oil supply and regime change could pave the way for a consequential sovereign debt restructuring.
Speaker BSo there you go.
Speaker BI think you're going to get sovereign debt restructuring.
Speaker BI think you're going to get more oil supply.
Speaker BI think just like it said, near term higher oil prices.
Speaker BIf there was instability, there wasn't.
Speaker BSo I think long term you're just looking at overall lower oil prices.
Speaker BSo much ado about nothing as the kids say.
Speaker AYou buying some real estate in Venezuela?
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BLove the country.
Speaker BBeautiful country, beautiful people.
Speaker ABut no, no, no, not right now.
Speaker BAnd I would not buy in Colombia at the moment either because Trump's going.
Speaker ALike, hey, man, he's looking, he's like, who next?
Speaker BFIFO dog.
Speaker BFirst in, first out.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker BYou thought I said fafo.
Speaker AYeah, that's different.
Speaker AThat's different.
Speaker BDifferent, different.
Speaker BFor those of you listening to the show, we are PG13 podcast most of the time.
Speaker AYeah, 90s PG13.
Speaker ANot this new age stuff.
Speaker A90s PG13 was a little bit better.
Speaker BCan I didn't check the news, but was this whole like Stranger Things?
Speaker BNo, I haven't seen rumored ninth episode.
Speaker BIt wasn't true.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThere wasn't a ninth episode that came out.
Speaker AWhy are you getting so excited?
Speaker ALook at you.
Speaker BI was so excited.
Speaker AYou're so excited.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYou weren't.
Speaker AYou weren't fulfilled with the final episode.
Speaker BIt was unfulfilling.
Speaker AWas it?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNot.
Speaker BNot because it wasn't good and heartwarming, but because there were a lot of holes that need to be plugged, need to be filled.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou know, sometimes you just need your holes plugged.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BFilled.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThere's a lot of questions unanswered.
Speaker AHow I felt about.
Speaker BThat's not what I said.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThat's how I feel about Game of Thrones at the end.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI just felt like if the fan base knows the loopholes more than you do and they have, like, theories.
Speaker AI know.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AThis is what happened with Game of Thrones 2.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ABut then if you go down that rabbit hole and then they go off one of the crazy theories.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd doesn't it come off as a little too gimmicky?
Speaker ALike you're.
Speaker ANow you're stretching.
Speaker AYou're stretching way too hard.
Speaker BFirst of all, Game of Thrones, basically softcore porn.
Speaker BLet's just start there.
Speaker AThat's not the case.
Speaker BYeah, it's the case.
Speaker BI've seen a couple episodes and I'm like, wait, what does that dragon do to that person?
Speaker AThat's not.
Speaker AOh, bro, that never happened.
Speaker BI'm just saying, you know nothing.
Speaker AJon Snow.
Speaker BI know everything.
Speaker BI know all the things.
Speaker BVenezuela's Maduro declares innocence in New York courtroom hearing Trump reiterates the US Is quote, in charge.
Speaker BPresident Trump reiterated Sunday.
Speaker BI lost.
Speaker BThere we go.
Speaker BEvening.
Speaker BThat the US Would call the shots in Venezuela.
Speaker BHe also threatened Colombia over its role in drug flows, said Cuba is ready to fall, and repeated his position that the US Needs to control Greenland for its own national security.
Speaker BAnd when I heard this, I was like, he does understand it's the United States of America and that South America is not attached, right?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI mean, not literally, but figuratively.
Speaker AYeah, exactly.
Speaker AGuilty by default.
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker AY' all got an America in your name.
Speaker AWhy'd you do that?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWe own you.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker AThat's us.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BLike I thought.
Speaker BThe same address.
Speaker ALike it's inevitable.
Speaker AIt's inevitable, right?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt's just strange.
Speaker BShares in US Energy companies, including Chevron, rallied on Monday.
Speaker BThe de facto leader of oil rich Venezuela, Del C. Rodriguez, who served as Maduro's vice president, has demanded Maduro's release, but struck a softer tone toward the U.
Speaker BS on Sunday.
Speaker AI mean, it's cool.
Speaker AI mean, if you can't do it, I understand.
Speaker AJust.
Speaker AI mean, am I gonna run?
Speaker AAm I gonna be in charge here?
Speaker AWhat's happening?
Speaker BRing, ring.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BHey, Delsey.
Speaker BWhat's up?
Speaker BYeah, you keep talking, you're gonna wind yourself.
Speaker BYou wind up in a Nike Jack jumpsuit.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWhat's that?
Speaker ACan I ask you a question?
Speaker AWhat size are you in the N, child?
Speaker BSize eight, right?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah, Right.
Speaker AWhat size are you?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHow do you feel about orange?
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo that's so crazy.
Speaker BIs that even legal?
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BCan you just take someone from a foreign country and be like, we're charging you.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BFor crimes?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean, it was.
Speaker BThey just think that through.
Speaker AWhen you saw.
Speaker AWhen you saw the.
Speaker AThe footage of, like, the military coming in, it was just chill.
Speaker AImagine you're just sitting there, like, what's going on?
Speaker BHaving some nachos.
Speaker AWhy nachos?
Speaker AWhy not arepas?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker AWhy nachos, bro?
Speaker BWhat are you talk.
Speaker BI had a craving in the night for some nachos.
Speaker BAnother dirty, cheesy kind, but, like, you know, like the meaty kind.
Speaker ASome jalapenos.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYou know what I'm talking about.
Speaker BHe knows I'm gonna leave it alone.
Speaker B50 pounds lighter over there.
Speaker BHe knows what I'm talking about, you know?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI walked past the grocery store, and I looked at a bag of, like, tortilla chips.
Speaker BI'm like, nah, nah.
Speaker BThat's all I'm here for.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BCame back the same aisle.
Speaker BI'm like, nah, nah, nah.
Speaker BIt's not the ones I want.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BCame back five minutes.
Speaker BI got the bag anyway.
Speaker AHad to.
Speaker BHad to ate it, dude.
Speaker AI can't.
Speaker AI can't go.
Speaker AI can't go grocery shopping.
Speaker AI always, always end up buying something that I'm not supposed to buy.
Speaker ASame here.
Speaker AAlways.
Speaker AThe wife's got to go.
Speaker AEither that, or it's got to be target pickup.
Speaker ALike, target pickup.
Speaker AThat way, I just don't even step in the door.
Speaker BYou can show the restraint on the app order.
Speaker BYou just can't show it the person.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AHere.
Speaker AThis is what I need.
Speaker AGo.
Speaker AOne item only.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAll right, let's get to Saeed's point about the vix and the S and P. I think it's material and fun, and we've had enough political commentary for one night.
Speaker BThis.
Speaker BAccording to Market Watch via Instagram, stock market has been climbing despite rising geopolitical tensions after US Captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Smithero.
Speaker BHuh?
Speaker ADo that.
Speaker AVery well.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker BI appreciate that.
Speaker BI Had to look at you to get the confirmation, but fine.
Speaker BIn the wake of the weekend operation, The S&P 500 gained 0.6% on Monday and another 0.6% on Tuesday.
Speaker BFor those of you who can't do math, that's 1.2%.
Speaker BYou're welcome.
Speaker BPerhaps more interesting, however, is that as stocks were gaining, investors were positioning themselves for volatility.
Speaker BThe CBOE Volatility index, or the Vix, often referred to as Wall Street's fear gauge, gained 2.7% on Monday alone.
Speaker BThis doesn't happen too often, and as the kids say, a rising VIX is an up market is not necessarily a warning by itself, but it is a signal.
Speaker BJoe Mazzullo, head of trading at Derivative Strategies at Charles Schwab, told Market Watch.
Speaker BIt's a signal that the market is pricing in uncertainty.
Speaker BYeah, I think when you go into a country and take their president right before trade talks with China go down, you still have geopolitical unrest in Russia and Ukraine, got Iran doing all their stuff.
Speaker BI mean, there's lots of things all over the world to go.
Speaker BYou know what?
Speaker BI don't feel very comfortable right now.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AYeah, apparently.
Speaker AI mean, look this up.
Speaker ABrazil, I think China had invited like 30 countries to get together to start discussing de dollarization.
Speaker AYeah, that's a little.
Speaker AI mean, I would consider that Uncertainty.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AInstability.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AVolatility.
Speaker BA little bit.
Speaker BWell, yeah, that's right.
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker AGot it.
Speaker ABang bang.
Speaker AChina recently invited over 30 countries to join the new International Organization for Mediation in Hong Kong, forming a bloc for dispute resolution.
Speaker AAnd also hosted many nations for the SCO Summit to discuss the de dollarization and trade in local currencies, aiming to build an alternative to the US led World Order.
Speaker AThese actions highlight China's increasing diplomatic push to foster cooperation, particularly among developing nations, and reshape global financial and political structures through initiatives like the Belt and Road.
Speaker AYeah, bro.
Speaker AI mean, this is happening one way or the other.
Speaker BWe should have called the podcast the World Order.
Speaker BYeah, I mean, it just sounds dominant, doesn't it?
Speaker BWell, I mean, we're the World Order.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI mean, you take it a little bit from the New World Order.
Speaker BNo, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker AThe guy that said last episode he didn't watch wrestling.
Speaker BI don't watch wrestling.
Speaker AThis guy.
Speaker BI just feel like you have to say New World Order like that, bro.
Speaker ACome on.
Speaker BYou know what I mean, brother.
Speaker ADude, you're hurting.
Speaker AYou're hurting my feelings, bro.
Speaker BOf course I'm hurting your feelings, Big Daddy Diesel?
Speaker AHulk Hogan.
Speaker BYeah, I don't know that is.
Speaker AOr what about higher world order standard?
Speaker AThe Higher World Order.
Speaker BThat just sounds like a bad.
Speaker AI feel like it's a tongue twister.
Speaker AYeah, there's no way I can introduce a show every time with that hwas.
Speaker BIt doesn't go very well.
Speaker AI'm still on the fence with the Bureau of Wealth Building.
Speaker BWhat are you talking about?
Speaker AJust call ourselves another bureau.
Speaker BI thought you registered the trademark.
Speaker BWe're the Bureau.gov.
Speaker AThe Bureau would be amazing.
Speaker BCan you imagine if we could find a way to finagle ourselves a.gov like URL?
Speaker BI would be the first person to be like, hey, thank you for calling the government issued enterprise.
Speaker BThis is Chris how may direct your call.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BYeah, I'd do it.
Speaker BI'd be all over that bum on a bologna sandwich, if you will.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BEven with markets climbing, the VIX implies that traders are bracing for some sort of volatility.
Speaker BMizzulo pointed out that there are plenty of upcoming events that have the potential to move the market.
Speaker BThere's an upcoming jobs report expected at the end of this week as well as other data on labor, cpi, ppi, opi, opp.
Speaker BYeah, you know me, all those things.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo you keep up.
Speaker BWe're working here.
Speaker AI'm on it.
Speaker BHe's.
Speaker AHe's locked in.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe U.S. supreme Court's ruling on President Trump's tariffs is also looming and could arrive in the not too distant future.
Speaker BAnd there are escalating geopolitical tensions as we've covered on the show, with the U.S. venezuelan military operation potentially causing investors to brace for future volatility, even if the stock market shrugged it off in the near term.
Speaker BHowever, Mazzullo said that it is important to take a step back and understand where the Vix was.
Speaker BThe jump, it was about 14.
Speaker BNow, Rajeel, do me a favor.
Speaker BGo to cnbc.com we're going to walk through this together, kids.
Speaker BIf you guys want to check this out, this is how you do it.
Speaker BI could give you the, the acronyms and abbreviations, but this is the simple way to do it.
Speaker BWe're going to do the simple stuff tonight.
Speaker BOkay, Saeed, let's do it.
Speaker BAll right, so at the top you're going to get red and green boxes which are going to tell you some of the basic stuff.
Speaker BThis is the pre market in the top.
Speaker BSee that little plus sign and the three little.
Speaker BThe gray bars at the top right above the red box.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BThere's one of them that says bonds.
Speaker BLet's click on bonds.
Speaker ALet's do that, James.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BOne in the top left corner should be US 10 year treasury.
Speaker BClick that.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BIt's green 4.14 up.002.
Speaker BAnd I know you're thinking like, oh God, that's not a lot.
Speaker BIf you watch this and you just look at it once a day, you will have a good approximation for what mortgage rates are doing at any given time.
Speaker AIt's always about what, 2 to 3 percentage points higher than whatever the tenure is.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker BSo between 6 and 7%.
Speaker A6.
Speaker A7.
Speaker ADang, bro.
Speaker AIt's the year chosen one.
Speaker AIt's all I did.
Speaker AI set him up.
Speaker AThese deep bit.
Speaker BBro, you do realize the hand gesture you're doing is not the appropriate hand gesture for the rest.
Speaker AIt wasn't low.
Speaker BNo, it was low.
Speaker ANo, it was.
Speaker AI was up here.
Speaker BThere's cameras on you side.
Speaker BThat was low.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BIt was awkwardly close to your chest too.
Speaker BOh yeah.
Speaker BDon't do that.
Speaker BDon't, don't, don't.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker BWe're going to lose sponsors already.
Speaker AI hope we don't lose first form.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker BAndy Frisella sent us over these wonderful cans of First Form Energy.
Speaker AI'm on the Screaming Freedom, honestly.
Speaker AProbably one of my favorite flavors.
Speaker BIt was the last one.
Speaker AYou son of a. I took it.
Speaker BYeah, I know you did.
Speaker AI took it.
Speaker BTake that.
Speaker AI took it.
Speaker AIt's mine.
Speaker BI gave it to you.
Speaker AIt's fine.
Speaker BIt was a little oily.
Speaker AI went in there and I took it.
Speaker BI put some baby oil on top of it.
Speaker BThat's a Maduro can.
Speaker ANo wonder why you're so loose right now, Saeed.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou feel it, right?
Speaker BPausing.
Speaker BEmphasis.
Speaker BAll right, go back to the previous screen now.
Speaker BI want to cover some other things so if you look at this every single day, you'll be good.
Speaker BI actually cover this on the live streams too.
Speaker BIf you go back to the pre market there at the top left, you also have a crypto bar.
Speaker BYou have some other stuff here you can look at.
Speaker BBut click on the pre market you're going to get what some of the stuff is trading before market.
Speaker BGo to the oil in the top or top right there, the green box.
Speaker BOh, you can go to the top left now.
Speaker BGreen box, green box, green box down below.
Speaker AThere you go, There you go, There you go.
Speaker BWTI Crude.
Speaker BI watched this recently just, just to get an idea of where oil's at.
Speaker BYou can kind of see the drop off now.
Speaker BLook at the course of one year, look how much higher it is, look how much it's come down, it's come down recently.
Speaker BThis is only going to bring it down even further.
Speaker BYeah, you got to kind of wonder if anybody thought about that as part of this whole process or was just don't let China have it.
Speaker AI think, I really, really believe it has most to do with them beginning to price it out in anything other than U.S. dollars.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABecause this is the way, this is the way that it works.
Speaker AIf, if they price it out in something other than US dollars and there's less demand and less need for US Dollars when things are priced out in US dollars overall, then, then countries will either trade, make, you know, make more trades with the US or they'll buy, they'll, they'll buy or change the currencies into US Dollars, which will ultimately they'll buy into the US Treasuries.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd if they don't do that and they don't need that, what's going to happen to the yields of the 10 year Treasury?
Speaker AIt's only going to rise.
Speaker BIt all goes back to going off the gold standard.
Speaker BYou know, I think that was a bad decision for a lot of reasons.
Speaker BBut I think this conversation is unavoidable at some point in time.
Speaker BAnd I think it's a strange rhetoric.
Speaker BI don't know if you've seen it.
Speaker BI do.
Speaker BThe next the meat potatoes of the show is coming up.
Speaker BKids, I know we're like an hour in.
Speaker BYou're like, oh my God, I can talk about something relevant now than politics.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah, we are.
Speaker BIt's politically adjacent.
Speaker BBut before we do that, I think it's weird how all of like the banking heads who are opposed to cryptocurrency are now like, hey, we gotta get with the times.
Speaker BCryptocurrency is the way to go.
Speaker BJamie Dimon coming out supporting, which is raw.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BWe all gonna ignore.
Speaker BThat's a complete 180.
Speaker AThat's a 180 for him.
Speaker AYeah, well, I mean a lot of that probably, whether he believes in or didn't believe in it before, you know, the regulators had to have been on him.
Speaker ALike, you cannot come out here and start supporting this initially even if he, even if he believed it now.
Speaker AHe did.
Speaker AYeah, right.
Speaker ALike, come on.
Speaker BI know what he did.
Speaker AWhat'd he do?
Speaker BHe's like, Warren retired now I can step in now.
Speaker BI can step in.
Speaker ABe the savior.
Speaker BGreg Abel, shut up.
Speaker BThis is what's gonna happen.
Speaker BOkay, that's what this went down.
Speaker BSo let's get into us Will ban Wall street investors from buying single family homes.
Speaker BTrump said, I wasn't going to cover this in the live.
Speaker BAnd then the more I was like, man, this narrative is terrible.
Speaker BSo it came from Reuters.
Speaker BUS President Donald Trump on Wednesday said his administration is moving to ban Wall street firms from buying up single family homes in a bid to reduce home prices.
Speaker BA pro.
Speaker BA potentially a potential blow for private equity landlords that also pressured home builders socks.
Speaker BIn a post on Truth Social, Trump said he was immediately taking steps to implement the ban, which he would also call on Congress to codify in law.
Speaker BIt was not clear what steps he would take.
Speaker BI'm gonna read his actual quote because I think it's important here in a moment, but before we get to that, there's no evidence.
Speaker BI'm sorry.
Speaker BI know there's people all over X that are like, oh, damn these private equity firms.
Speaker BAnd I am not a private equity firm fan, okay?
Speaker BI'm not backing some of these people, but I got friends at Blackstone.
Speaker BDo they buy a lot of multifamily apartments?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BThey bought a lot of.
Speaker BBuy a lot of multifamily apartment debt.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AWhy are they into that?
Speaker AWhy are they interested in that?
Speaker BBecause they get the interest rate, they get the return on the cash flow every single month and they get the equity upside in the property over time.
Speaker BIt's a stable investment, but believe it or not, it is not the highest yielding product they get.
Speaker BIt may turn into that, into a higher yielding product, not the highest.
Speaker BThis is not incredibly risky product for them.
Speaker BIt's incredibly stable.
Speaker BSo it's low yield.
Speaker BThey want slow and steady growth over time.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BPeople like, oh, well, it's because of them that my rent's so high.
Speaker BNo, man, it's not.
Speaker BOkay?
Speaker BAnd we're going to cover as and I'm going to prove out because I'm so tired of this damn rhetoric.
Speaker BI'm tired of it, right?
Speaker AA lot of people believe that it's the institutional investor that came into their neighborhoods.
Speaker ALook, there are some neighborhoods out there that have maybe experienced more than others, right?
Speaker BDisproportionately more.
Speaker BBut some of depending on how you define a large investor, whether you talk about 100 units or more or a thousand units or more, it's somewhere between 3 and 7% of the total supply is bought by, quote, institutional investors.
Speaker BI'm sorry, that is what causes your housing problem.
Speaker BIt's the high rates and the High home prices that are doing that.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AAnd in order for the housing affordability to really get resolved, we talked about this on the show ad nauseam.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThree things need to happen.
Speaker ANot one of the three, not two of the three.
Speaker AAll three things need to happen in conjunction.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BWages going up, home prices coming down and rates going down.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNot likely to happen anytime soon.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAt least all three of them.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BOr you can have outsized growth in any of them.
Speaker BI'll take the higher wages.
Speaker AI'm good.
Speaker AI'm good with that.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ALet me decide.
Speaker BI'll decide whether they do the extra money.
Speaker BEverybody.
Speaker BBut higher wages with no inflation in home prices at the same time is the problem.
Speaker BAnd therein lies the human conundrum, if you will.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BTruth Social.
Speaker BFor a very long time, buying and owning a home was considered the pinnacle of America, of the American dream.
Speaker BIt was life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
Speaker BPursuit of happiness meant home ownership.
Speaker BHe is not wrong.
Speaker BIt was the reward for working hard and doing the right thing.
Speaker BBut now, because of the record high inflation caused by Joe Biden and the Democrats in Congress, that might not be the only reason, but okay.
Speaker BThat American dream is increasingly out of reach for far too many people, especially younger Americans.
Speaker BAgreed.
Speaker BOk. At least on it's out of reach.
Speaker BI agree.
Speaker BIt is for that reason and much more that I am immediately taking steps to ban large institutional investors from buying more single family homes.
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker BBecause you're pandering to this false narrative?
Speaker AYeah, exactly.
Speaker BOkay, fine.
Speaker AOkay, whatever, dude.
Speaker BAnd I will be calling on Congress to codify.
Speaker BOkay, Typically speaking, just, just to be the.
Speaker BI don't.
Speaker BWon't be the guy.
Speaker BTypically speaking, this comes from Congress and then you codify it.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BNot the other way.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BExecutive, judicial, legislative.
Speaker BLegislative to executive, executive appro.
Speaker BIt's just semantics.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BRemains to be seen how this is legal and I.
Speaker BLook, I'm pretty sure the SEC has got some comments here.
Speaker BI'm pretty sure some of the housing authorities got some comments here.
Speaker BHud, maybe, for example.
Speaker AI'll let you finish the quote before I comment.
Speaker BOh, good.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker BVery courteous of you.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BPeople live in homes, not corporations.
Speaker BYeah, except here's the problem, chiefy.
Speaker BCorporations don't live in them either.
Speaker BThey rent them out to people who live in them.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd just, just to be the bearer of bad news here.
Speaker BIf less companies can buy and vis a vis their acquisitions, rent them out.
Speaker BOkay, you got a fundamental problem, which means less rental supply in the market, which means rents go up.
Speaker BIt is significantly Cheaper to buy rent than it is to buy right now.
Speaker BDo you really want rent going up as a result of this?
Speaker BBecause nobody's thought this through.
Speaker BAnd while I'm doing this, you know who some of the largest buyers of homes are?
Speaker BWho?
Speaker BThe builders.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker BSo now you're going to discourage them from buying their own stock and re renting them on the market as a cash flow vehicle.
Speaker BSo they're just not going to make it.
Speaker BAnd don't worry, Chris has got a chart to prove this out because I know someone on X is going to be like, you know what you're talking about man.
Speaker AAnd if they can't do it, then they can't go back in and build even more units.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker ADiscourages them from building out even more.
Speaker BWhy would you do it if I can't buy my own units?
Speaker BOh, Jill.
Speaker BBringing up the Burns docs.
Speaker ADude Burns Docs Trust.
Speaker BJohn Burns.
Speaker BThis is old.
Speaker BBelieve it or not.
Speaker BI, I did not.
Speaker BI did not.
Speaker BYou know.
Speaker BI did not know.
Speaker BThis is gonna be used in the future at some point in time.
Speaker BBut before I get here, by June 2022 institutional investors owned around 450000 homes or about 3%.
Speaker BThat is institutional investors defined as a thousand or more, not 100 or more.
Speaker B100 or more.
Speaker BIt's closer to 7% because it's this 3% plus.
Speaker BIt's like 3.5 plus 3.8% approximately.
Speaker BWe'll get it, okay.
Speaker BDon't worry.
Speaker BOf all single family rentals of the homes nationally According to a 2024 survey by the Government Accountability Office.
Speaker BAnother what?
Speaker BThere's a Government Accountability Office?
Speaker ABro, what is going on?
Speaker AAccountability office?
Speaker BHow many offices are there?
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker BYo, this is the government swagger office.
Speaker BI wanted to call you about your swagger.
Speaker BSaeed, those quarter zips are not satisfactory.
Speaker BWe're gonna have to find you and we're gonna issue sanctions if you keep this up.
Speaker AThe Bureau of Swagger check.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BCan't be wearing those fits.
Speaker BYou look very Maduro ish.
Speaker BAmerican homes for rent AMH on the stock market dropped to a near 3 year low of 28.84 and was halted for volatility before trading resumed.
Speaker BJust in case you don't know this, if your price changes too much and I don't remember the exact numbers and we can look it up some other times, not really relevant for the show.
Speaker BThey'll halt your activity trading to kind of slow the progression downward upward.
Speaker BIf it happens three times, they'll just stop your Trading for the day.
Speaker BYou can start trading again the next day.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BIt ain't good, right?
Speaker BNo, it's bad.
Speaker BIt's bad, yeah.
Speaker BVery bad.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNot good.
Speaker BBut it happens.
Speaker BAnd you know, sometimes it's productive and sometimes it's cautionary, but you don't want to hit those red alarms in the stock market.
Speaker BIf you're a publicly traded company, it's not good for you or anybody else.
Speaker BTrading resumed.
Speaker BIts shares closed down only 4% at 31.01 cents.
Speaker BBlackstone shares hit a one month low of 147.52 and closed down about 5.6% to 153.59.
Speaker BThe PLH PHLX housing index fell 2.6% of spokesperson for Blackstone said their ownership of such homes represented a small portion of their overall business.
Speaker BI can confirm firsthand know the guys who run it.
Speaker BThat's true.
Speaker BAnd they had been a net seller of homes for the prior decade.
Speaker BSold more homes than they bought.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYou know, you know that all the homies at the private equity firms are looking at them like, bro, why you didn't have to do this.
Speaker BWe're already the devil, Mr. President, why.
Speaker AAre you doing this?
Speaker AYeah, like, why?
Speaker AWhy did you do this to us?
Speaker AYou know why?
Speaker BBecause they are already the devil.
Speaker BHe knows.
Speaker AYeah, you know, blame the dead guy.
Speaker AWhen I, when I, when you were reading it, what came to mind for me was like, sometimes, like right before bed, for some reason, the kids tend to get a little too playful.
Speaker AThey get feisty.
Speaker ASometimes they argue with each other over things that don't matter.
Speaker ABut sometimes they're playing and it sounds like fighting.
Speaker AIf you're not really like locked in and tuned in.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ASometimes my wife will be downstairs and say, hey, go upstairs and like, take care of that before I get upset.
Speaker BTo you?
Speaker AYeah, to me.
Speaker AGo take care of that.
Speaker AMake sure they get to bed before I come upstairs and I have to take care of business.
Speaker BThat checks out.
Speaker AYou know, it does check out.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo then in my mind, I'm like locked in.
Speaker ALike, I could tell that they're playful and be like, oh, I got it.
Speaker ADon't worry, I'll go take care of that problem.
Speaker AYou don't.
Speaker AAnd I know if I go up there, they're just playing and I can put them in bed and I come down, look like the hero, bro.
Speaker AThere's no problem.
Speaker AAnd he's acting like he's solving a problem.
Speaker AThere's zero problems going on here.
Speaker BSay, totally just confirmed that his wife does not listen to the podcast.
Speaker AAin't locked in after an hour, bro.
Speaker BYeah, she's like, all right, she might listen.
Speaker AShe.
Speaker AShe'll listen for the first, like, 20, 30 minutes and then maybe check the sign off.
Speaker BChris.
Speaker BChris talking too much.
Speaker BClick.
Speaker AShe a listen to the mean potatoes.
Speaker AYeah, she was on the live the other day, though.
Speaker BShe wasn't alive.
Speaker AYeah, she's on the live.
Speaker BShe want to catch me slipping, though.
Speaker BYou got to know his wife.
Speaker BShe want to be like, oh, that episode was so great.
Speaker BExcept for that one part where you stuttered too much.
Speaker BI'm sorry.
Speaker BYeah, it sucks for you.
Speaker BShe does.
Speaker AShe doesn't.
Speaker AShe likes calling Chris out.
Speaker BYeah, she does.
Speaker BI went to her.
Speaker BAll right, this from the John Burns Research and Consulting is the best chart I have seen on this.
Speaker BI've seen a lot.
Speaker BThis, to me, and it goes from left to right.
Speaker BYou got to read it in that order.
Speaker BOtherwise it looks like a bunch of rainbows and colors and stuff like that.
Speaker BSo there are 148 million housing units on the market.
Speaker BA certain percentage of them, 9%, is about vacant.
Speaker BIs that right?
Speaker B9%, yeah.
Speaker B9% vacant.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BOf these housing homes on the market, 134 million households, okay.
Speaker BOwn the non.
Speaker BAre in the non.
Speaker BVacant units.
Speaker BAll right, there is a vacant unit breakdown here, but not really relevant for this product conversation.
Speaker BSo of the 65% that are owned and the 35% that are rented, you look at the 35 that are rented and you say, okay, that's 47 million total rental units.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BOf those 47 million total rental units, 66% or 31 million of those are apartment buildings.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo sorry, kids.
Speaker AYeah, that.
Speaker AThat is.
Speaker AThat has to be an investor.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BThat leaves us excluding mobile homes, which is only a 2 million unit supply here, single family rentals of 14 million units across the entire country.
Speaker A14 million single family rented units of the original.
Speaker A148 million units.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHousing units.
Speaker BHousing units we live in.
Speaker BSo of the.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker BThe question is.
Speaker AWell, I think people get that confused, right?
Speaker AHousing units, units that people can live in.
Speaker AThat includes apartment buildings.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker BWhoopsies.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOkay, so now you got single family rental units.
Speaker B14 million units.
Speaker BLet's break down the 14 million units because this is surprising to most people.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BIf you own one to nine properties.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BIf you own 10 to 99 properties, those two groups, shocker.
Speaker BMake up 76.6% of the ownership I make.
Speaker AThat checks out, given my underwriting history.
Speaker BYeah, it does.
Speaker BIt should check out yeah.
Speaker BSaeed Omar.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BShould check out real well.
Speaker A70%.
Speaker B76.6.
Speaker A76%.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BSo now of the cohort that own 100 to 99 properties, 16.2% are owned by people who own 199, 999 properties.
Speaker BOnly 3.8%.
Speaker BI'm sorry, I, I messed up.
Speaker BMy bad.
Speaker BI, I did this math wrong here.
Speaker BLet me fix this for you.
Speaker B76.6% is 1 in 9 properties.
Speaker BPeople own 10 to 99 properties.
Speaker BIs 16.2%, which means a little over 90.
Speaker BWas it 92% is owned by people between 1 and 99 properties.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AI mean, those are your real estate investors that, like, got in the game early and did really well for themselves.
Speaker BOr people who just own their home.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AOr, or, or people that just all know.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BOne unit.
Speaker BYeah, that's right.
Speaker BSo 190.
Speaker B999 properties.
Speaker B999, yeah.
Speaker B102 and 999.
Speaker BSo less than a thousand properties.
Speaker BMore than a hundred properties.
Speaker B3.8% of the total market.
Speaker AWhat are we talking about here?
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker B1,000 properties plus 3.4% of total market.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BTotal combined.
Speaker BIf you own a hundred units or more, okay.
Speaker B7.2% of total rental market is owned by them.
Speaker BDo you really think this is the solution?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ACrazy.
Speaker BAnd how do you define institutional?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThere's is, there's.
Speaker AHonestly, there isn't enough money for them to, for them to make.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AEspecially when it comes down to, like, single family rentals.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ACome on.
Speaker AThey're not in, they're not in to it for that.
Speaker BAnd the part, the problem with this chart is this is a static shock.
Speaker BLook at their ownership right now.
Speaker BBut if you listen to people like Blackstone who made the comment they made, and they're not wrong, they have been a net seller.
Speaker BThat means for all the properties they own, they have sold more than they acquired in any given year.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo if you start going through the math that way the last 10 years, well, how are you gonna sold more properties?
Speaker AWell, also, like, how are you gonna stop it?
Speaker ARight?
Speaker ALike you're gonna discourage these, these people from making units to go online.
Speaker ADiscouraging developers.
Speaker BWell, you're also discouraging rentals.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BIf 7% of the market is rental properties that are owned by these people, you don't think that, okay, we'll make housing more affordable, but we're going to make renting more expensive.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BAnd what does that do?
Speaker BDoes that really make everybody's life Better.
Speaker AAbsolutely not.
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker BAs my son would say, not.
Speaker AYeah, absolutely not.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AI mean there's no, there's no restrictions.
Speaker BOn.
Speaker AInvestors in capping the increases in rates.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALike rent control on single family homes.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AOnly, only on apartment buildings.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIt depends on where you're at.
Speaker BIt's regional, most places around the country.
Speaker AI mean that's something at some point people, I would have to be considered if anything.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABecause that really puts people in a pickle where they have, they're, you know, renting a home and they just get their rent increase.
Speaker A10.
Speaker BYou're baiting me right now.
Speaker AI know what you're doing.
Speaker ASee what I'm doing?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAll right, let's do it.
Speaker BI have been a self proclaimed rent control expert for a long period of time, having made a lot of loans in Southern California, the second largest multifamily in the country.
Speaker BIn California at one point in time.
Speaker BI know firsthand that rent control has very good sides and very bad sides.
Speaker BYes, you can keep rates low and yes, that means that some people can stay in those properties for a long period of time.
Speaker BThat also prevents transitory migration from one unit to the next unit.
Speaker BPeople don't move, they stay there because any new apartment you go to is going to wind up being more expensive than the one you've been in for two decades.
Speaker BSome people try to pass down their apartments and their rents on to their, their kids.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ABecause they're so cheap for long term tenants.
Speaker ARent control makes them, it gives the illusion of protection and stability.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThat's, that's the lure, the draw, and.
Speaker BIt'S one way to solve the problem.
Speaker BI'm not, I'm not demonizing it, but you got to understand there's a human element here.
Speaker BRent landlords, it almost encourages them to be some lords.
Speaker BWhy do they want to put more money into rehabilitating and making a unit really nice if that person's not going to vacate and it's never going to relet?
Speaker BAnd if they can't raise the rent meaningfully.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BThe only way in some of these markets in Los Angeles they can raise the rent is they keep it vacant for a year and then re rent it at a much higher rate.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BAnd yeah, new properties that are built in areas like Los Angeles, for example, can be built and they have to have a low income housing component, but.
Speaker AThey'Re what, 15 years before they, before they get hit with rent control.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd it's not exactly a perfect system.
Speaker BIt does work that it keeps valuations of properties which are based on the amount of income and revenue you can build from them.
Speaker BIt keeps them stable from going too far down and too far up and it keeps people from over leveraging, like banks from over leveraging these properties.
Speaker BYou can't get much cash out because you got to get that service to pay for them.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo there are rational explanations on both sides of the equation.
Speaker BI'm not saying that it's greater, it's good or it's bad, but I'm saying that pulling off 7 point something percent of the rental properties in the market and lowering that over time is not going to meaningfully move the needle.
Speaker BFirst, we saw the executive branch talk about a 50 year mortgage and social media lost their mind laughing their asses off at it, and now you have this spin at it.
Speaker BClearly there's a problem in, in the housing market.
Speaker BClearly.
Speaker BI'm, I, I commend everybody in, in the White House for at least acknowledging some of the problems and taking up some of the most popular rhetoric and feeding into what people want to hear responses to.
Speaker AOh, like a 50 year mortgage.
Speaker BPeople, People, look, people are discouraged.
Speaker BThey want to hear there's something that, that the administration could do.
Speaker AYeah, but, but, but I think for a lot of people when they, they're complaining about there's a problem here, there's a huge problem here.
Speaker AWe, Nobody, nobody can afford homes.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AAnd you come to the table with this first, you come to the table with whoa, whoa, we'll start, we'll start pushing in approving of 50 year mortgages.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker AIt's like that's your solution, my guy that you had all this.
Speaker BThat's not his fault though.
Speaker ANo, no, no, it's not his fault.
Speaker ABut I'm saying like that's the unrest for many people that they're sitting and waiting for a solution and that's the best thing you can come forward with.
Speaker ANot good enough.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd then second, and then you, and the next thing you do is we're going to stop institutional investor.
Speaker AThat's not even a problem, dude.
Speaker AWhat do you mean?
Speaker AThat's not the real problem?
Speaker BWell, what, what if you, you put on the tinfoil hat and you had the conversation, okay, let's say you do.
Speaker BLet's say, okay, this doesn't solve the problem, but let's just say you could move several dials a little tiny bit and maybe that will meaningful.
Speaker BSo let's just say macro, 30,000 foot elevation, devil's advocate number one, you roll out a 50 year mortgage but you make it really hard to qualify for.
Speaker BIt's for first time home buyers only and you got to have certain restrictions that make it unique in the market.
Speaker BOkay, number one, number two, and there's a constitutionality issue, right?
Speaker BSimilar people being treated differently.
Speaker BIs it constitutional?
Speaker BIs it, you know, legal?
Speaker ANo different, no different than this student loan example, which, but, but let's just.
Speaker BSay you do it.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BI cut you off.
Speaker BGo ahead.
Speaker ANo, no, no, go ahead, give me that half smile.
Speaker BI know what you're thinking.
Speaker BGo ahead.
Speaker ANo, because then there's all, there's, there's.
Speaker AI'm not saying it's, it's the administration's fault or anyone's fault.
Speaker AI think what scares people is we need a solution and our policymakers can't provide a solution.
Speaker BYeah, but I can't think of one either.
Speaker ARight, But I'm saying like the system, is the system broke?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWe're all supposed to rely on the system.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AAnd the system is when things don't go well, our policymakers can go in there and provide solutions for us and create solutions to fix, to fix the problems.
Speaker BThe problem is, is by the time people acknowledge that there is a problem, you've got an entire class, people who are priced out of the market and won't be able to be priced back in.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIf you don't fix the problem near term, it is going to be a long term painful, almost impossible problem turn around.
Speaker BNot due to somewhere from our national data, that.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut let's just say you move the needle.
Speaker BYou the 50 year mortgage, you find a way to make it constitutional.
Speaker BOkay, whatever.
Speaker BLet's say you cut institutional investors out of the market.
Speaker BOkay, fine.
Speaker BYou've got Mirin Myon in the fomc, right.
Speaker BYou get drone P out, you name somebody else, you got three votes.
Speaker BYou get more aggressive cuts, rates come back down.
Speaker ABut we know what that does.
Speaker BUltimately drives home values up.
Speaker BAll these things are inflationary for home prices.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AThere is no solution for this, the home affordability crisis.
Speaker BSo how do you.
Speaker BIt's death by a thousand cuts.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThis death by a thousand cuts or just a massive AI bubble crash to where there's multiple catalysts and multiple things break.
Speaker BAnd how does that happen?
Speaker BHow does that happen when you have companies making more money than ever?
Speaker BThey're paying less dividends because they're building out their infrastructure, but at some point in time you presume they're going to pay dividends again.
Speaker BWhat, what, how does this happen?
Speaker BWhere does the.
Speaker AI'm not saying it should Happen.
Speaker BI mean, you are kind of wishing for, like, not at all.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker BDid you originally.
Speaker BYou heard him say that, right?
Speaker BHe's like, I want people to lose their money.
Speaker BThat's what he said.
Speaker AI did not say that.
Speaker BI might be reading between lines.
Speaker AI did not say that.
Speaker ALook, look, I benefit off of it.
Speaker BI'm.
Speaker AI'm saying I. I got the feels for the people that don't.
Speaker BDo you?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BBecause you own a lot.
Speaker AShout out.
Speaker AShout out to my man Bob File, who.
Speaker AWho messaged me before the show.
Speaker AAnd I told him.
Speaker AAnd I told him I was going to give him a shout out on the show.
Speaker BDid you?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd I said, chris is an elitist.
Speaker AI'm the people's champ.
Speaker AI'm your guy.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI would.
Speaker BI want to sound humble if I live in a palazzo, too.
Speaker AWith six bathrooms.
Speaker BYeah, six bathrooms and the big water fountain up front.
Speaker BYou ever seen that thing?
Speaker ANo.
Speaker BHe's got a statue now.
Speaker ASee, now you're lying.
Speaker AYou're adding.
Speaker AYou're adding to it.
Speaker AThere's no water fountain.
Speaker AThere's only two baths.
Speaker BSimply because I haven't talked about in the past.
Speaker BThere's only two baths that work right now because you got a bunch of water.
Speaker BI'll give you that.
Speaker BYou found the loophole, one of which is technically.
Speaker BTechnically a sitting room now.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AOh, we can laugh at my pain.
Speaker BRegill.
Speaker BTrue story.
Speaker BYou sent a.
Speaker BYou sent a picture to the group chat the other day about.
Speaker BAbout his bathroom having a leak.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, oh, no, that's the other bathroom.
Speaker AYeah, that's.
Speaker AYeah, that wasn't the one from before.
Speaker BYo, can we.
Speaker BCan we do this on the show?
Speaker BWhen you moved in, you had a water leak.
Speaker BYou had to put pex piping all through the house.
Speaker AI did, Right?
Speaker AHad to change the water heater.
Speaker BChange the water heater.
Speaker BYou did the bathroom upstairs because there was a leak there.
Speaker BAnd now during the rainstorms, you found another leak in the bathroom downstairs.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThrough the window.
Speaker BI'm gonna be honest with you, dog.
Speaker BYou turn your water off.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker AI need a God turned his water off.
Speaker AThis again.
Speaker AThis guy.
Speaker AA little crazy, honestly.
Speaker BThat's all this problem.
Speaker AThe leak in the.
Speaker AThe leak in the bathroom was a small leak, and it just.
Speaker AIt created a little bit of water damage.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABut the problem is when my contractor came in to see, like, oh, there is, like, there's a little bubble, like, under the paint, and he put his finger on it, and he.
Speaker AHe pressed on it, and it just Cracked it.
Speaker AI was like, come on, man.
Speaker BYou could have left it there.
Speaker AYou couldn't just leave it.
Speaker ALike, I wasn't gonna fix it now.
Speaker BI was gonna do the hair dryer on the thing.
Speaker AI was just gonna tell people to go upstairs, use the bathroom.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AThe upstairs one has a bidet.
Speaker BSo the real version of the story where Jill is side went in and was like, I got the money.
Speaker BJust fix it, bro.
Speaker AThat far from true.
Speaker AFar from true.
Speaker AI actually negotiated down with the guy.
Speaker AI feel bad.
Speaker AI was like, you don't ever feel bad.
Speaker BShout out to Ben.
Speaker BBest contractor in the world.
Speaker AThe greatest.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSaeed's never paid him market rate on anything.
Speaker AThat's not true.
Speaker AI paid him whatever.
Speaker BHe.
Speaker AWhatever.
Speaker AHe's quoting me.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker AThat's the.
Speaker AThat's the payment.
Speaker BAt least he's willing to quote you.
Speaker BHe won't quote me, you know?
Speaker AYeah, because you're an elitist.
Speaker BI'm not.
Speaker BStop.
Speaker BDon't do that.
Speaker AI did it.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BYou want to hear elitist?
Speaker BBrazil.
Speaker BYou know the story as well.
Speaker BTenant moves out.
Speaker BProperty inspector goes in.
Speaker BShe inspects the property.
Speaker BMy sister, so I'm not going to talk too much.
Speaker AA rental property of yours.
Speaker BRental property.
Speaker BOne.
Speaker AOne of.
Speaker BOne of my one rental properties.
Speaker BOne of them, yeah.
Speaker BAnd new tenant comes in, does the whole, like, pre.
Speaker BPre rental.
Speaker BLike, look around.
Speaker BShe loves it.
Speaker BHer family loves it.
Speaker BDad's gonna live with her.
Speaker AOh, wow.
Speaker BShe's like.
Speaker BSmells moldy in here.
Speaker AOh, no.
Speaker BOh, no.
Speaker BTurns out there was seepage, which I know you guys think about going to the bathroom when I say seepage.
Speaker BNot that kind of seepage.
Speaker AEw.
Speaker BYeah, it's worse in reality than it is in hyperbole.
Speaker BSo apparently the sink, at some point in time, whenever you run, it leaks.
Speaker BTiny, tiny, tiny, tiny bit.
Speaker BBut everybody runs their sinks multiple times a day.
Speaker BThe previous tenant was so paranoid about dust that I send contractors in to fix things for her.
Speaker BShe wouldn't even let them wear, like, those, like, booties that go over their shoes.
Speaker BShe wouldn't even allow the shoes in her house at all.
Speaker BYou could not wear shoes in her house.
Speaker BYou had to wear the booties with no shoes.
Speaker BSocks only, bro.
Speaker AI'm Afghan household.
Speaker AYou gotta take your shoes off when you come to my house.
Speaker BNo, I. I did the same thing.
Speaker BMy wife's Filipino.
Speaker BI mean, I get it, but I did that before I married her, so, you know, I guess that makes us.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BShoe brothers, right?
Speaker BIn any event, she was very, very apparent she would call Me and say, hey, this guy wants to get shoes off.
Speaker BGet a different contractor out here.
Speaker BAnd the contractors always like I have to wear shoes.
Speaker BIt's an insurance liability.
Speaker BIt'd be like a whole thing.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BSo whatever.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker BSo she didn't know if.
Speaker BShe would know.
Speaker BShe would if she had a small kid.
Speaker BLike I get it.
Speaker BShe moves out.
Speaker BWe see the.
Speaker BThe girl smells.
Speaker BAs we have a mold inspector come out.
Speaker BHe inspects, finds the entire kitchen cabinet structure is molded.
Speaker BLike the point where it all is like a wet.
Speaker BIs basically like your bitcoin hands.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWet paper towel hands.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo we rip out the entire sink which has the countertop, the cabinets, everything has to go.
Speaker BOf course.
Speaker BThis is a big house and it's a big island in the middle.
Speaker BOn one side there's a kitchen with countertop.
Speaker BThe other side there's a matching countertop.
Speaker BGuess what?
Speaker AThey don't make that countertop anymore.
Speaker BThey don't make countertops anymore.
Speaker BThey can't get a matching stone.
Speaker BThey don't make the cabinets anymore.
Speaker BCan't get matching cabinets.
Speaker BThis turned into a ten thousand dollar ordeal.
Speaker BNot including the five thousand dollar.
Speaker BProfessional mold remediation.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BFor the space.
Speaker ADamn.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I cannot criticize your habits.
Speaker BBut the fun fact, the lesson here is kids, if you ever call your insurance company and you want to talk to them about this, you cannot say it was a slow leak over time because they will not cover.
Speaker BAs a matter of fact, most rental insurance policies across the country have pulled mold out almost entirely.
Speaker BBecause they always say that mold tends to occur not from a singular one time event, but because it happens to a slow leak over time which they do not cover.
Speaker BYou can get a rider an addendum to your policy which includes it for a nominal increase in fee.
Speaker BOf course no one tells you that.
Speaker BBut the higher standard.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker AThat's actually gems.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI'm out here.
Speaker BFree game.
Speaker AFree game.
Speaker BFree game, baby.
Speaker AThat's old school.
Speaker AI get.
Speaker AWe approve that.
Speaker AYou can say that.
Speaker BI can.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AFree game.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWe got to just stick to like our lingo.
Speaker BWe do.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I should not make the shirts to say 6, 7 on.
Speaker BNo, don't.
Speaker ADon't do that.
Speaker AYou should segment about this insurance stuff.
Speaker AA whole section of insurance.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker ASome of the evergreen content.
Speaker BLet me tell you why I'm changing insurance companies.
Speaker BAnd mine sucks.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AEspecially with mold.
Speaker AYou could call it drip too hard.
Speaker BThat's actually a great.
Speaker BThat's a shirt.
Speaker BThat's a shirt.
Speaker BDrip too hard with the roof.
Speaker BThat's caved in on top of it.
Speaker AOh, the drip.
Speaker AThe drip.
Speaker BYou got the drip.
Speaker AYeah, that's good, Rajeel.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker AKnows what he's doing.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker AYou guys got anything else?
Speaker AI mean, we're an hour and 21 in.
Speaker BI know, right?
Speaker BI hope that new road cat.
Speaker BOh, if you're listening to the show, you're this far into it.
Speaker BYou're a loyal, true fan.
Speaker BWe love you.
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Speaker BNumber one.
Speaker BNumber two, we're using new audio equipment.
Speaker BSame mics, same tone, same sound, but it sounds a little differently.
Speaker BDifferent to us because the preamps are all a little different.
Speaker BIf you think this sounds different or it's socks, by all means send site, an email mediahirestandardpodcast.com and we will let you know.
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Speaker AHonestly.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI saw.
Speaker AI saw one of their posts earlier today and it was spot on.
Speaker AIf you ever bought, like, your kids gifts, right, and they don't.
Speaker AThey don't ask.
Speaker AYou ask Carter what you got him for Christmas last year, right?
Speaker AHe made me remember one gift or two or his birthday, he'll start confusing.
Speaker ALike when you got what gift?
Speaker AHe won't remember.
Speaker AGive your kids the gift of health for yourself.
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Speaker BDon't buy your kids GLP ones.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AJust to be clear, by yourself.
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Speaker ASo you live a healthier, longer life.
Speaker BLife for your kids.
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Speaker BThe delivery and that could use some better execution.
Speaker BThat's lawsuit territory.
Speaker BI can't have it in a lawsuit.
Speaker AThis is.
Speaker AThis is one of those.
Speaker AI got just a couple more shout outs for a couple people here.
Speaker AAnnie and Cali told me she and her husband sometimes watch us on the big screen TV in their house.
Speaker ASo shout out to them.
Speaker BOh, wow.
Speaker BYeah, it's always weird.
Speaker BPeople send me photos of them watching us on television.
Speaker BTheir house.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BMakes me feel very awkward.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd shout out to.
Speaker BVery intimate.
Speaker AAnd shout out to baby B. Diaz.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOh, b E Diaz.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BShe's cool.
Speaker BShe watches this.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AShout out to all the people.
Speaker AAnd if you're still with us and you're watching this on YouTube, hit that subscribe button.
Speaker AHit that, like, button.
Speaker ARing that notification bell.
Speaker ADo all the moist, goody good, sassy frat stuff.
Speaker ALeave us a comment.
Speaker ALet us know if you like the quarter zips.
Speaker AWe should come out with some higher standard quarter zip merch.
Speaker BNot gonna do it.
Speaker ACome on, dog.
Speaker BMake your own merch now.
Speaker BYou can make your own guy.
Speaker AI'm gonna go get this embroidered.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI'm not doing it.
Speaker BWe can actually do that with our merch company.
Speaker BCompany.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWe need the embroidering thing.
Speaker BI just refuse to do it.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker AHuh?
Speaker ACome on.
Speaker AThis is so, like, professional.
Speaker BI only wear stuff you can actually wear in Compton.
Speaker BIn Compton, like, you can wear this in Compton.
Speaker BYou'd be fine.
Speaker BYou'd be good.
Speaker BBrazil and I would be good in the hood.
Speaker BYou would not make it, sir.
Speaker AAll good, man.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHow do we lose?
Speaker BHow do we lose?
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BBrazil.
Speaker BHow do we lose?
Speaker BSaeed, Quarter zips.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AEven the left turn.
Speaker AI quarter zip.
Speaker BAlley quarter zips.
Speaker BIn Compton.
Speaker ACan't do it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ANeutral colors, though.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou got anything else?
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BYou're colorblind.
Speaker AYeah, sometimes.
Speaker BI always.
Speaker AGray or black, baby.
Speaker BThat's not great, dog.
Speaker AWhat is it?
Speaker BHuh?
Speaker BThat's purple.
Speaker BThat's lavender.
Speaker BLies.
Speaker BBrigil, tell them lies.
Speaker ADon't listen to them.
Speaker BLilac.
Speaker ALilac.
Speaker ANo, it's Heather Gray.
Speaker AHeather Gray.
Speaker BIt's lilac.
Speaker AYou know what I don't like about Nike?
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker AThey come.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker AThe name.
Speaker ATheir color convention names are all like.
Speaker AI'm like, what is that?
Speaker AI don't even know what that is.
Speaker AIt's not like.
Speaker AJust tell me if it's gray, blue, red, black.
Speaker APeriwinkle is graphite.
Speaker ACome on, bro, just say.
Speaker AJust tell me what it is.
Speaker BYeah, Fancy.
Speaker BGray.
Speaker AYeah, come on.
Speaker ACrimson.
Speaker AI'm like, come on, bro.
Speaker ACrimson.
Speaker ARed.
Speaker ALike, make it simple.
Speaker AThere's colorblind people out there.
Speaker BSounds like a yp, not an mp.
Speaker BSay good night, everybody.
Speaker BLet's go.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BA yp.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABrazil.
Speaker AYou got anything?
Speaker AWell, I guess since we're talking about Continentalist quote, Ice Cube, the best thing in life is health.
Speaker AGet your mind right get your grind right get your mind right get your grind right There you go.
Speaker AUse code higher on Fridays.
Speaker BHe just has so many of them.
Speaker AThose.
Speaker BHe's.
Speaker AHe's good.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou got anything?
Speaker BI'm useless.
Speaker AAll right, good night, everybody.
Speaker BBye.
Speaker AOkay, bye.