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Something serious to say at the very beginning.

I am genuinely very, very pleased to say that the stateside half of this dou is safe and well in Vegas, far enough away from the fires in la.

But thanks to all of you who were checking in on Robert Denerley, we've got a lot of pals in California really messed up by what you've been seeing on the news.

So Martin, first of all, you're all right?

Yeah, it's a fucking as it's heartbreaking me, I've got a pal coming to stay with me.

Actually there's been out hosting our big, big pal, the podcast Charlie had to hightail out there.

He's right.

He lives in Pacific palace as well, the sort of epicenter of it.

So yeah, it's been fucking heartbreaking, man.

It's, it's, it's that kind of hang.

I don't know, you always sort of see these fires seem.

Happen every year nearly, but this seems to have went another level.

But yeah, as long as everybody gets it all right, but.

And can I just say, is that.

Is there a more identifiable fragrance than poppers in a nightclub?

I mean, you know that.

Do you know, are you familiar with that, Martin?

I've been in the vicinity.

I've just heard about it.

I've just heard about it.

Right.

Martin, I think you're really excited about today more than any other podcast we've done before because I don't think I've ever seen you nervous about meeting somebody or being starstruck ever before have I.

Like this, I'm kind of.

That's the only reason I'd get up at.

There's not many people at 5am I would stay out to 5am but getting up at 5am for somebody and I'm gutted I'm not there.

But also I don't know if I'd want to be there because you don't want to see behind the magic.

And this, this guy is so fucking iconic.

I don't know.

I don't know if I could handle myself.

Arun, there.

Right, there's two parts of this, right?

Two special guests today.

The first guest I'm going to introduce because he's a dear old pal, right?

And we'll get to the on screen talent in a second.

But first, a dear pal with the best name of any guest ever to appear here.

Director, videographer, man about town, sharpest dresser ever from Manchester, a former neighbor of agent Nick when they were kids.

And a man with a surname like mine, that takes some convincing.

It's not a pseudonym or a stage name or a nom de plume.

It is real.

It's the rock and roll creator, the one and only, Charlie Lightning.

What a director this man is.

By the way, Charlie, great to see you, mate.

Nice one, nice.

Thanks for having us on, Charlie.

Briefly, just from our history together, a friend of Kasabian Oasis now Liam Gallagher in particular possib Oasis again, which we'll come to at some point.

Louis Thomason from One Direction, you've worked with the greatest and the best.

And also Sir Paul McCartney's videographer.

Exactly.

It's not a bad CV, Charlie.

No, it's pretty good, man.

Charlie has also filmed me over the years I have.

In a professional business you quite make money somehow.

He could work with the greats, you pay the bills.

Big corporate gigs.

Exactly.

But Charlie's here today on official business because he has made a film with the Trailer Park Boys.

Charlie.

And we crossed paths briefly in Glasgow when you were making a movie.

Right.

I bumped into you in the airport.

Now, before we speak to the talent.

Yeah, not that you're not talent yourself.

Trailer Park Boys is a phenomenon, Charlie.

Right, excuse me for swearing on the podcast so early.

How the fuck did you end up in a Canadian trailer park with these fuckers?

Well, it's that thing, isn't it?

Of we met about 15 years ago.

He came to a Paul McCartney gig because he's made.

Paul's DJ is a guy called Chris Holmes and he just knows everyone and he said to me this, there's this guy coming, he's in this show Trailer Park Boys and I never really heard of it.

I started looking online and I was like, this is mental.

And then he.

Then he came to the show and we just.

We just became friends and hung out.

There's nothing.

We weren't talking about work or anything.

Or filming stuff, doing poppers at nightclubs.

So basically, long and long story short is that in that time I made the Liam Gallagher movie.

He'd seen all the stuff I was doing with Paul, with McCartney, and then he.

The Trailer park is shot very much sort of mockumentary doco, sort of element, but he wanted to give it a different slant of a music documentary.

So we've got a Mank pal, right?

And he has another friend called the Draft, because he can get in anywhere, right?

And Charlie is that guy.

He's in with the Trailer Park Boys, like the Draft.

And we've kept and waiting quite a long time, Charlie.

Right, so should we do the big introduction here?

Right, so with Charlie today, he's the only man I've ever known to make Martin Compston starstruck.

As I said at the beginning, he's a shopping cart repairer, criminal assistant, trailer park supervisor, musician, businessman, hockey player, amateur porn star, professional wrestler, pizza sauce manufacturer and seller, mayor of Sunnyvale.

And for anyone who hasn't watched Trailer Park Boys, that was really weird.

Carer of cats.

Carer of cats.

Of many cats.

It's the one and only Bubbles.

How you doing, Bubbles?

Hey, what's going on?

Going on?

I forgot I did a lot of that.

Some CV drowned off.

I forgot I was the mayor.

I watched, I think, you last night.

The Green Bastard.

Yeah, As a creation within a creation.

Yes, the Green Bastard.

I like to, you know, I like to hammer people every now and then, I should say.

That's your alter ego as a wrestler then, right?

Yes, that's my.

That's my wrestling name.

When I go out and, you know, start dropping elbows and coming off the top rope.

Yeah, I only do that as the Green Bastard.

Bubbles, of all those things I've just described you as, what is the one thing that you think will go on the gravestone in Canada?

Oh, cat herder for sure.

I've been looking after kitties my whole life.

My whole life.

That's the most important thing.

All the other stuff's just fluff.

So Julian and Ricky have known each other since you were boys?

Yes, yes, since we were, you know, probably I met them probably when I was 4 or 5 years old, you know, they stuck up for me when I was getting bullied by Jason Rocknell.

Dirty bastard.

Where's he Now, I don't know where he's at.

He's probably.

He's probably in jail or he might be doing pornography or maybe both.

Charlie.

Charlie.

See, for anybody who is daycare, could you set up a bit then?

Like who I made Cast a Catch.

You've got Ju, Ricky, Bubbles, sort of as a trailer park.

There is this mad cast of characters all over the place who all play their own part.

Like, it's a wonderful ensemble.

Can you set up a bit for people who might not have seen it?

Well, the thing is.

The thing is, it's great about this film is that I wanted to make something that you could watch it and not have to have seen Trailer park because the characters are so strong and so interesting in their own right anyway.

And obviously they have a history and a thing that has sort of gone on and.

And this is.

It's a slightly different thing because.

Because Bubbles has put up.

He's trying to put a band together and sort of follow a music career.

He's turned his shed because they live on the trailer park and he's got like static sheds that he's turned into a studio.

Yes.

Tabby Road.

Tabby Road, yeah.

I can see why Bubbles, you wanted to work with somebody linked to Sir Paul McCann.

Well, yeah, I mean, Tabby Road and I.

You actually use the same sort of thing, but I put the kitties there.

And so that's where the story sort of begins of them on this.

These characters on the.

The trailer parking, putting the band together and pursuing a career in music.

Or at least, you know, he's trying to get some shows and ends up playing the legions.

Yeah.

And then it sort of goes from there and it builds in terms of, you know, you go on this journey with him that.

That goes from, you know, Sunnyvale Trailer park to ending in Abbey Road Studios.

From Tabby Road to Abbey Road via Glasgow.

Via Glasgow, yeah.

Glasgow.

Without any spoilers.

How did you get on in Glasgow, Bubbles?

Oh, I love Glasgow.

We've been there.

I've been there with Ricky and Julian several times doing a live thing.

And, you know, where we're from.

Nova Scotia means Scotland.

Yeah, we're all the same.

And I am, you know, I'm very familiar with a town called New Glasgow, Nova Scotia.

So I feel very at home in Glasgow.

I mean, Bubbles, I hope you take this the right way, but you look like one of us.

That's good.

Bunch of handsome bastards.

Sexy, sexy, sexy, sexy, sexy Saxians around there.

There is something about Canadian humor for me, by the way, that.

That that definitely connects with the Scots, wouldn't you say, Martin?

Like you knock a bit with Emily Hampshire.

Absolutely.

I was going to jump on that.

And if it was something that I could ask you about, what is it about Canadian?

We've got.

We've got Emily and Eugene Levy with Shit's Creek.

You've got Jim Carrey, John Candy.

John Candy.

Martin Short.

You know, you got all these, what, like, there seems to be Seth Rogen and all his films stuff.

There seems to be something about Canadian sense of humor.

It just.

Dan Aykroyd.

Dan's Canadian.

What was it?

Second City.

What was the thing in Toronto?

Second City.

SCTV was a.

Yeah, your Second City.

TV was a.

Was a whole show with all those guys.

John Candy, Eugene Levy, Martin Short.

That was a huge thing.

I think it's mainly just to do with the level, the amount of drinking that happened.

I think if there wasn't as much drinking, I think Scotland has, you know, the same sort of levels.

You know, when you go out to a bar in Scotland or in Nova Scotia, you can pretty much, you know, count on getting punched in the mouth at some point.

You'd be like.

With Martin, you know, it's just kind of, you know, it's just kind of what you have to expect.

You know, somebody will punch you in the mouth and then you'll have a beer with them.

Yeah, after Bubbles.

Just enough.

Sorry, Martin, just a very quick political point.

Justin Trudeau is on his way, isn't he?

Will Bubbles be shedding a tear for him?

No, I won't be shedding it.

Here.

They asked me if I wanted to run for the.

The party leader, surely.

I told them to go fuck themselves.

Vote Green Bastard.

Yeah, I don't want any part of that.

Jesus, with the music thing again.

I mean, Rush are such an iconic band.

You got to play with Rush, didn't you, Bubbles?

I did, yeah, I did.

When the.

There was a tsunami.

When the tsunami thing happened and there was that big benefit concert, I got to go out and play.

Play with Rash, you know, played Close to the Heart, Shot a video for it, hung out with them.

I mean, I've been, you know, we've been.

From the first time Ricky kidnapped Alex Lifeson, called him a male prostitute.

We became very good friends from that.

Going on your musical aid, Those, then Bubbles?

Well, all those.

I mean, a lot of Canadian stuff like that, you know, I was never really into Atlantis.

I was more into, you know, the Rocky type stuff and the.

The country type stuff.

But you played with Guns N Roses.

As well, didn't you?

Yes, yes.

Did you tour with Guns and Roses?

I went on tour with them, yes.

For several months and get up every night and I'd play a.

You know, do a song with Axl.

At the end of the night, right before Paradise City, we would do a duet on one of my numbers, which was quite fun.

Yeah, I got to play with them, you know, and Rush and all kinds of.

All kinds of.

What was the biggest audience you played with?

Gardens n Roses?

Like, what can I say?

Did you play the Hollywood bowl or anything?

Like, what were you.

No, we were playing like.

I was.

I went to Japan with them and played at the Budokan, which isn't that big, but pretty, you know, pretty iconic.

I played all over Australia with them in Mexico, like, you know, 50, 60,000 people.

Bubbles, what was the behavior like off stage with Guns N Roses on tours?

A different world night?

Oh, there was a few nights.

I think I called an ambulance for myself.

Can you tell us.

Tell us.

Can you tell the story of the.

Of the tequila?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, when I was in.

You know, I was in Mexico City, and I was supposed to be back in Canada the next day, and I was with Axel, and, you know, I told him, I gotta go home.

And he's like, oh, yeah.

And then they wheeled in this giant cart of tequila, and they were like, oh, Mr.

Rose, we'd be very, you know, honored if you'd try some of these.

And he.

That's one of the last things I remember.

And then I.

Then I woke, and then next thing I know, I'm on.

On my back on a.

On a jet going to Australia.

Have you ever been to Australia?

Well, I can't go to it.

Well, we're already in the air, bud.

Was it he stood over you?

Yes, I woke up.

That's an expensive Uber back, that one.

Well, I stayed for about two months after that.

That's true, too.

I was over there.

Right.

Did you ever imagine coming from your reshed in Sunnyvale on a private jet with Guns N Roses?

Oh, I flew all over the.

With Axel on his jet.

After that.

We went, you know, then I was in Japan, and, you know, we would just.

He'd do the show, and then all of a sudden, we're just on his jet, flying around, drinking.

That's tremendous.

So Axl Rose, right?

Probably one of the most iconic rock stars of all time.

But when you met Charlie here, this incredible mank.

Yes, it must have been pretty exciting brushing shoulders with Sir Paul McCartney.

An actual Beatle.

Yes.

That I was he a fan.

That was just unbelievable, you know.

And that's, you know, because I met this guy, yeah, like he said through, through Kiss, Chris Holmes.

And then I was just going to shows and you know, so when we were, you know, in the movie, I wanted to, you know, have somebody follow the band around and, you know, make a movie.

I thought, well, he's already made a whole bunch of music movies.

Why not get that fella?

I don't think Paul McCartney hires dummies, you know, Might as well go right to the top.

I don't know if you.

Ringo Starr.

That, that was the thing when.

With the film you see, because it's in three bits of him on.

In Canada, on the trailer park, putting the band together and then something happens that ends up that they get booked to go and support Billy Bob Thornton's band, the Boxmasters, around Europe.

And we actually did that properly so they supported them and we did shows.

And so it was great for me because it was my world, you know what I mean?

So we would shoot scenes in the day backstage or we'd shoot.

Something would happen if it had to happen on stage.

We'd shoot sort of close up stuff in sound check and then when they do the actual gig, yeah, they'd recreate it and we'd shoot it wider with the audience.

But it, but it's, but it's great because in the film all the, all the music stuff is really authentic and it doesn't feel like.

Because it is.

It's not like a.

A bought in audience.

Do you know what I mean?

It's.

It's not Extras as a single.

No, I don't.

Melly Vanilli it.

I get up there.

And the thing is with it, he's written an amazing album that goes with the film.

And when is that coming out?

Long hauler.

Excellent.

Yes, you get her on Amazon.

What's the best track on it?

Bubbles, the one you're most proud of?

Well, I think the one that we played at Abbey Road at the end of the film because Ronnie Wood sings on it with me and Jesus Christ.

We recorded that at Abbey Road and Billy Bob Thornton and Duff from Guns N Roses is on there.

Nielsen from Cheap Trek, Eric Burden from the Animals.

What a band.

Carmen.

Carmen from Bones UK is on there.

Bubbles.

Are you ever intimidated by them when you play with them drunk?

Right.

You don't really get intimidated when you have several drinks in you.

Yeah.

Remember the Ronnie woods story?

Is it only rock and roll?

But I like it.

He apparently wrote it yeah.

And they were jamming it in his house and then it became a Rolling Stone strike and he never got the credit for it.

Do you know that story?

I didn't know.

What I'm getting at here, Bubbles, is have you ever thought they might pinch some of your brilliant melodies in those jamming.

I would be honored if they would.

I'd love Ronnie Wood to steal something I wrote.

I've got to say, he's a great man.

Oh my God, it's like he was.

He was so cool and so like just generous with his time and just.

Just him like unbelievable.

Him and his wife Sally, two of the coolest people I've ever met.

Yeah, yeah.

Just for a technical point of you see me again.

Something like that.

How many of you're doing that Mockum style?

How many cameras you got rolling most of the time?

We had two.

Right.

And.

And that was the other thing as well with, with the.

Because they're so good.

Because they've done it for such a long time.

You can shoot a scene eight or nine pages, you know that like just starts in one bit carries through and the.

The way that they bounce off each other is.

It means you can shoot it.

I mean, okay, we just call that talk and.

Yeah, but it means you can just keep the cameras rolling and go with them.

There's no worried about catching in a cameraman in the back.

Man.

Much speed.

We'd shoot one way and then we'd do it again from the other way.

Do you know what I mean?

Yes.

So not crossing over the real test for me.

Right.

With what Charlie does, Bubbles is the moment when he knows to put the camera down.

Is there ever a moment, Bubbles, where you've got.

Charlie, put that down.

Well, it's like I'm going in to have a pest.

Do you gotta come in with me to film this?

I don't.

Not sure why we need this.

Something I've always wanted to ask you, Bubbles.

Can you talk to me about Conkey?

Sure I can.

What do you want to know about them?

Just for people who would maybe not see that.

Well, he's just a puppet I built many years ago and you know, he tends to shoot his mouth off a little more than maybe he should.

And Ricky, you know, he likes to take runs at Ricky and Ricky doesn't like Conky much, so he got rid of him.

He tried to kill him and threw him in the swamp.

But we found him years later and I still had.

Well, he ended up shooting him actually.

Yes.

God, if you don't know so Conky's like a mini Bubbles that's on his shoulder, everybody.

But it looks exactly like Bubbles.

It just is.

He's a great little friend.

I like when he starts talking, shooting his mouth off.

That is a phenomenal episode.

That is so fucking good.

Would you quite fancy having a Conkey, Martin?

Well, it's good because it's like an outlet to see all the stuff because it's just on your shoulder saying all the stuff that Bubbles would never say.

It's like Martin after two makers, Mark and Cokes.

Conkey's much more courageous than I am.

He'll say pretty much anything to Ricky.

And actually there's two conkies.

This is interesting.

Nobody probably knows this.

There's two conkies.

The only other one that exists on the planet was a second one I built and guess who owns it?

Axl Rose.

No way.

Oh, he owns the only other Conky that's ever been constructed.

See, I want to know more stories about Bubbles and Axl Rose because that's quite a partnership.

Yes.

What was that?

What?

What's the best moment, Tequila and Australia aside, that you've shared with Axel?

With Axel, I don't know, he's just like, he's, you know, everybody, you know, knows him as Axl Rose, this big, you know, crazy rock star or whatever, but he's.

I just sort of.

I just know him as Axel and then, you know, I'll be hanging out with him and then, you know, some.

Every now and then I'll go, holy fuck, he's Axl Rose.

There's a great story, Bubbles, about him that he apparently signed up to do a world tour about 30 years ago.

And just before they kicked off, Axel decided he didn't want to do it, wouldn't leave his house.

So the promoters agreed apparently that for every gig he finished, he would get a different supercar on the drive of his house.

So by the time they got home to the gaff, there were like 26 supercars on the drive.

I'd love to know if it's true, but what I'm getting at here is if.

Do you.

Have you inherited any of those diva like behaviors now that you're a proper on stage?

I don't think so.

I don't own any cars.

I've seen some of Axel's supercars.

He had a Ferrari Enzo that he took me for a rip in one night that was pretty cool.

I don't know if that story is true or not, but he does own a lot of cars.

Beautiful cars.

Yeah.

He's got some crazy ones down there.

What's on your rider, Bubbles?

What's a new rider backstage?

Not much, you know, bottle of tequila, Katie, food.

I get a lot of cat food on my rider and then I just bring it home.

That saves me 10 bucks.

But that's basically it, just, you know, a bottle of liquor and some cat food.

Simple, simple.

Marty, how did you get into fixing carts?

How did that come about?

It seems like such a, such a simple but brilliant money making scheme.

Well, it was just, you know, it's, you know, back where we live, there's shopping carts everywhere.

You know, they treat them like shit.

They just let them go down the bank.

Think it's funny, but people don't understand.

Shopping carts are not cheap for this.

We're talking shopping trolleys here, aren't we?

Shopping trolley Martin's turned into an American, you see.

So we have to decode this.

Shopping trolleys.

So yeah, it was just, you know, they're not cheap for the stores to buy.

So I thought, well, all this one needs is some new bearings and, you know, a bit of love and then I'll sell it back, back to the grocery store.

20 bucks, 25 bucks a card.

Yeah.

Good business, Martin.

It's a great business.

Simple idea.

And also Bubble just did.

Would you have any idea when you started, when they started following you around?

I mean, how many series, movies, cartoons?

Did you have any idea that it'd be such that people around the world would react to it in such a way?

No, no, we didn't at all.

You know, just Julian wanted the cameras to follow him around because the psychic told him he was gonna die.

So he, he h.

Camera guy to follow him around and we thought he'd only be there for a week or whatever, but now it's almost 25 years ago that started.

Yeah.

When did Bubbles first put his glasses on and emerge?

Oh, I've had them on since I was a little guy.

You sleep in them apparently, is that right?

I do actually.

Just so that if I open my eyes I don't get scared.

I need to be able to see what's happening.

What was the cartoon like?

How did that come, what was that situation like?

Well, it was, I mean it was fine other than the whole reason it came about was we ate, you know, a whole giant shopping bag full of mushrooms, magic mushrooms, and we basically turned into cartoons.

I thought I was a cartoon for about four years.

Nobody enjoys being high for four years, Charlie.

What, what was the live shows like?

What was the first time you Brought that because we experienced this and it's.

It's kind of safe doing it in our own little.

In our own little bubble, if you don't mind me saying.

Like, we find ourselves, but when you take it out to an audience and you're like, fuck, did they really find us funny?

Did they really enjoy this?

Yeah, I mean, we, we.

We've done live stuff all over the goddamn world now.

And there's three or four different.

Different live shows.

I quite enjoy it, you know, because the, you know, and actually, the one of the funnest ones we ever did was in Glasgow because we couldn't understand a fucking word anybody was saying.

The accent was so thick.

Ricky was like, they're.

No, I don't think they're speaking English, are they?

They are, Ricky.

You just gotta listen really close.

But we can't understand it.

Where's the most unusual place you've been recognized?

Oh, we were going through the airport one time, me and Ricky and Julian, and, you know, we heard this lady, y'all, you know, yell our name.

We turned around, it was a whole group of nuns and they were.

I'm not joking, there was about nine of them and the youngest one in the group was 72.

And they had their nun.

All the nun gear on.

The full nun suit.

Yeah.

With the hat and the whole rig.

Wow.

And they were just jumping up and down and giving us hugs and.

And I don't remember where it was, but that was probably one of the weirdest meetings we ever had.

What was funny on the film?

So in the movie, they get.

Something happens in Glasgow and it all goes wrong and they.

They have to busk from Glasgow to London.

And so we.

We sort of traveled down and stopped at various places on the way and we.

We went to the Lake District and there's that.

I remember going there when I was a kid.

It's like.

It's a bit like Stonehenge.

Yeah.

In the late.

It's like you have to.

You have to drive to it to get to it.

And so it's.

You're in the middle of nowhere and we're shooting them walking through.

Him and Randy coming through, going like, we've got to get to London, what we're gonna do.

And then all of a sudden you just hear Bubbles.

This girl runs over and she's like, what are you doing here?

Do you know?

And it was like the most.

The.

The one place I wouldn't have expected.

And that's weird.

Yeah, it was.

But then there was that one time in Vegas When I got hauled into that party and they gave me all this stuff, all this liquor, trying to ply me with drugs.

They thought I was Elton John.

Oh, man.

And I tell you what, that was.

That.

That was what was so cool as well.

When we've done the film, we needed to show it to Ronnie.

Yeah.

And the Stones were playing Vegas, so we flew out to Vegas, hung out with Ronnie backstage and Jesus, you know, like, right up until the point of them walking out.

Yeah.

And then the next day he came out.

Well, he came over to us and we were staying in the Luxor and the theater and the Luxor.

The Caritar is his friend.

And for.

For whatever reason, on that Sunday, he wasn't doing a show.

So he gave us his theater.

Yes, I borrowed Carrot Tops.

Big theater.

So he gave us his theater and we set up a screen and showed the movie.

And so it's us and Ronnie Wood and Sally and a few friends just.

Just in the looks orders, there's about 15 of us just sat watching the movie.

And he loved it.

And it was just.

It was again, what.

And just the experience of making this film and those sort of things have.

Been laughing the right bits.

Oh, he loved it.

Oh, yeah.

He.

He thought it was fantastic.

And that was a.

An earlier shot.

Yeah, yeah, he loves it.

Bubbles, how involved did you get in with Charlie and deciding what went in in the end, or did you leave it all to him?

Oh, I just, you know, I like to watch it and make sure he's not.

He's not cutting things in there.

That makes me look, you know, makes me look bad.

But no, I like to be involved.

But, yeah, everybody, you know, Everybody.

Yeah, yeah.

The whole thing was very sort of collaborative and very sort of, you know, all egos were left at the door.

And even.

Even with Billy Bob.

Working with Billy Bob Thornton, you know, Billy Bob Thorton on your first sort of movie was quite intimidating, but he was.

He was so amazing.

There was this one point we were doing this scene and it just wasn't working.

It was.

And he could have easily just gone, it's not working because of this, this and this.

I'm gonna.

And he.

But he was like, should we just step outside for a cigarette?

And so we go outside and he says.

He goes, I was just thinking, if it's all right by you, I've got a couple of suggestions.

Yeah.

And he was.

He was amazing.

And he.

Because he didn't.

Because it.

He saw that I was thinking, how are we doing this?

Because that could have gone Wrong, couldn't it?

Yeah.

If that was handled in the wrong way, you know, completely.

Yeah.

Pickle.

And it was.

It.

Yeah.

It just meant it was.

It was brilliant.

What about the music?

I've not had a chance to see the film yet.

Right.

But it must be brilliant choosing the score and the music.

The songs for the film which you've written.

The album.

Yeah, it's his album.

Yeah, but you've got to have other stuff chucked in.

Yeah, but the records are amazing.

It's like.

It's.

It's.

That's where I think before you.

Like you were saying with the live shows in the past.

We were talking about this before, I think, when people bought tickets to come and see the show for the film, the album hadn't come out, so people didn't know that he'd written a record and they don't think they knew what show they were coming to.

But the fact that it was a full on rock and roll gig and.

Yeah, and Glasgow went off, it was like.

It was two nights.

Yeah, two nights.

I know.

We were going to go, Martin, weren't we?

But you went away.

I was away in London.

And how'd you write your music then, Bubbles?

What did you start with an acoustic guitar or is it.

Yeah, I just, you know, I noodle around with the guitar and, you know, sometimes Ricky and Julian are sitting there and Ricky will throw in some.

Some stupid ideas or whatever.

But, yeah, I've, you know, I've always written music, so it's.

It's just something fun to do.

Country and Western, they call it.

What's it like going about Canada, like you said?

I mean, if they do a new pound note in Canada, I wouldn't be surprised if it's your face on it.

You've got to be like a national treasure out there.

No, no, not really.

I'm still trying to strike up a cat food deal over there where they, you know, there's got to be a company that'll give me free cat food to feed the cats with.

Come on, Whiskers.

Come on, Whiskers.

You've got a lot of people turning up to.

A lot of unwanted guests.

Turned up to Sunnyvale now, look.

Oh, yeah, there's always people, you know, straggling around, but it works out well because Ricky sells drugs to them, so he doesn't mind that part.

Bubbles, there's a big question for you, right.

Charlie's phone's been ringing off the hook for the last, what, three, four months now because everybody in the country wants a ticket to see Oasis.

Oh, yeah.

Is there a chance that there could be a Bubbles, Liam Gallagher, Noel Gallagher performance?

Well, I mean, I would do it.

Heartbeat.

Yeah.

You know, I could get up there and do it with them.

Either of them.

You know, I do a full Oasis duet if they wanted me to.

Is there one.

Is there one song in particular you would do?

I think Champagne Supernova would be a good one for me to.

To get in there on.

I was thinking about country and western twist on one of their songs.

What would be the.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, I could.

I could do country arrange in a wonder wall there you.

That would be brilliant, wouldn't it?

Yes, I could do that very easily.

Like coming in, because obviously you and Bubbles were pals and stuff, but coming is something that's such an established show and such a global success.

What was it like coming into that?

Well, it was.

It was.

It.

Because the way that they have it over there as well, the studio, the.

The.

It's like a whole complex with like a set and in one room, in one bit of it, and then the offices and edit suites and music studio over there.

And it was just.

It was a.

Intimidating going into their world.

But like I said, because the production designer, I knew that the set would look great, do you know what I mean?

And I knew that my brother would like it and it would look great and knew from the script that it was great in terms of how they would perform it.

So it just started to flow and it was more.

It was that thing.

And as much as doing it like a.

Like when I'm doing Liam and stuff like that and my documentaries, it's just me running around.

But on this, my brother's the dp, so I brought my brother in to shoot it, so it slightly elevated it and.

And made it a bit more cinematic as such, and I was slightly nervous about doing that, but once we got into it, it was.

It was.

It just started to flow and then that was what was great.

We did that first and then we went to Europe on the second bit where we're on tour and that world.

Do you know what I mean?

And then also we had.

There was quite a long time because of the strikes and different things before we could.

And Abbey Road being available before we could shoot in Abbey Road.

So we.

We cut 75% or 80% of the film before we shot the end.

And that was brilliant for me because it's quite helpful.

Yeah, isn't it?

Because we.

We knew we had a great movie and it's like, in it and you'll see.

What I mean by this is that the ending is so, like, ambitious.

And when we first went, we all met up in New York to do a read through the script and it was at that moment I was like, wow, this is.

If we can pull off the ending, it's.

It'll be amazing.

And.

And like I said, so we'd cut 75 of the film and it was really great and it had good flow and it felt right and it just was.

If we could pull off Abbey Road and.

And getting Ronnie and everything that happened.

As I say, when you see the film, I can't wait.

I can't wait for you to see.

Hopefully see in the next spot.

I'll come and see it in the next few days.

Yeah, yeah.

It comes out in the cinemas.

See, that's.

Again, that must be a weird thing, Bubbles.

Right.

I always think this about musicians, right.

And there's been a couple of times me and Charlie have had that privilege where an artist plays you their album for the first time.

Yeah.

But I find it really awkward when they're sat looking at you, seeing how you react to the middle age and how you think.

So when you're stuff and you've been through this a million times, when you see people watching it, it.

How does that make you feel?

Oh, it's fantastic.

Because every time I've had to be in that position, everybody's laughing.

Yeah.

And cheering and, you know, so, I mean, it would suck if they're all.

Sitting at our home.

But it is.

It is really funny.

The film is like.

It's not like there's a couple of jokes.

It's.

It's.

It's like a constant thing.

Early I showed it to a few people and when I was on tour, I showed it all to the McCartney.

And afterwards they were like, you know, my face hurts from laughing.

Do you know what I mean?

It's like.

But.

It's got the.

But the other thing as well, that was always really important to me was the heart in the film.

There's a real heart in there as well.

And like, when you were watching it at the premiere at Abbey Road, you were sat next to Billy Bob, weren't you?

Yeah, I was sitting next to Billy Bob Thorton.

And he hadn't seen the finished thing.

It's the first time he was seeing it.

And there's a scene at the end that was filmed in Abbey Road, the same room we're sitting in watching the.

And.

And, you know, Billy sort of gives me a bit of a bit Of a.

Not a pep talk.

But he gives me some advice and then I, you know, I sing this sort of song from my heart and I looked over and Billy was crying.

Oh, no.

Watching it.

And then I started crying.

I was like, you know, it was very, very cool to see the experience.

To go through that together because I always sing that with Charlie.

Right.

You, of all the people who have got great jobs, yours is the one that must be so shit to go back to real life from.

You know, you're gonna have a carry on with Bubbles and the boys, go and watch the best gigs in the world.

What's it like when you get back in your pajamas, Charlie, and you're just scratching your arse watching the football?

I love it.

I love it.

No, but it's not that it's the kid.

It's my kids, innit?

That's the hardest thing.

Do they remember you when you go back, Charlie?

Yeah, no, it's.

That is the hardest thing about what I do because, you know, you know, first traveling and now they're getting older as well.

Yeah, it's.

It's definitely harder and it's.

And I'm.

I.

But I feel blessed that, that, you know, I have the house and, you know, that my missus keeps it all going and keeps it all sort of running, bless her.

You know, three kids, two big dogs and a.

You know what I mean?

And an annoying husband.

He's never there.

Bubbles, I've got one last big question for you.

Yeah.

Would you be interested in working on screen with the waistcoat wearing TV detective, the biggest and highest viewed TV cop drama in the UK the last 25 years.

Line of duty, Martin Compton, this guy here.

What I ever.

Sign me up.

You gotta get you on the next Trailer park as well.

Oh, mate, I honestly, I would fuck it again.

I don't know if I could.

I could handle it.

I'd be freaking out seeing all the.

It'd be too much.

You gotta come and do it.

I didn't get an invitation there, did I?

Once again at the cutting room floor.

Charlie, about.

Guys, I can't thank you enough.

Coming in.

Honestly, this is.

And I'm gutted I'm over there, but at the same time I might have self combusted.

It's.

It's such.

Honestly, it's such a.

That, that character, that show, but that character specifically, it's just because he's just a wee rare sunshine and all that madness, you know, he's just the kind of person you want.

You just want to give him A hug.

I can't wait for you to see the film.

Honestly, it's like.

It's.

It's.

I think you're really proud of it, Charlie.

I'm super proud of it.

I'm super.

A.

You know what was the best part.

Of making this film with Bubbles?

Doing it together.

Yeah, you know, the.

The vibe and the.

The.

From, as I say, all the way through it, it's felt such a collaborative thing where a lot of the time when I'm making documentaries, it's me and a camera.

Do you know what I mean?

And I'm following Liam or following Paul, and it's quite.

I'm just in my own head.

Yeah.

And so it was great with this because of the team, and I'm like, because.

Because they're so good at what they do as well, you know, everything just.

It was.

It was like, with the end of the Abbey Road thing, you know, it was so ambitious what we were trying to do, and we had different people that we were trying to get to do it, and, like, people were coming and going.

And then it was like, oh, and we're a few days from shooting it and.

But I just knew.

I don't know why I knew it would be all right.

And.

And it.

And it was.

You know what I mean?

And it.

Honestly, when you see the.

When you see the ending of the film, it's so good.

Bob, I was.

Tough question, given that you got to do something at Abbey Road at the end of it.

What was the highlight of the.

Of the film for you?

Oh, it was definitely that.

I mean, you know, working with him, obviously.

But the.

The scene at Abbey Road, you know, I.

I don't.

I don't know how I could ever, you know, outdo that one at Abbey Road, you know, singing and playing with Ronnie Wood and Billy Bob Thornton, you know, a song that I wrote and Eddie Kramer's there, who produced my record, and it was just unbelievable.

Like, even when I watch it now, I've seen it, you know, 50 times, but every time I watch it, I go, holy fuck, how did we do that?

The Italians say that.

That a building has a warm ghost.

When you're in Abbey Road and you're in Studio two, do you feel the presence of those artists?

Million percent.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did you steal anything?

I did.

I stole a whole.

One of the whole mach.

Whole tape deck.

Stole it right in the trunk of the car.

No, I didn't.

No.

I would never steal anything out of every road.

It should all stay there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It all needs to stay there.

I.

Ricky did try to steal some stuff, but I wouldn't let him.

Do you ever get nervous?

By the way, would you play in Bobby Road?

That must be.

You know, we've talked about those great venues, but that one has got a pressure.

I normally don't, but I was a little, you know, I gotta say, with Ronnie Wood standing there, you know, me and him singing and playing the guitar, and Billy's here and Duff McKeag, Martin.

Freeman, his little cameo is priceless again.

He was amazing.

He was, yeah.

Ricky threatens to shove a fork through his nose and Merton does not back down.

He goes, I'll end you.

Go on no more.

But you go like that, like he.

Like Ricky himself.

Martin does not back down in that scene.

Yeah, Good old.

Gentlemen, it's been such a pleasure having you in.

Bubbles.

Thanks for coming over.

Oh, thank you.

From Toronto.

Four pints down.

No drama at all.

Nothing.

Nothing at all.

Thanks again.

And Charlie, it's always such a pleasure to see you, man.

And if you've not.

If you're not familiar with Charlie's work, he's sitting here wearing his free Liam Gallagher trainers.

He's free Liam Gallagher jacket.

He's brilliant.

Check out Charlie's work.

It's class, everything that he does.

And Martin, it's good to see you, young man.

Man, good to see you, mate.

I'll be back over next month.

I'll see you soon.

Take care.

Right.

All that remains, Martin, is for us to say, let's.