1 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,830 Blair: All right, ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon, or good evening, and welcome to the 2 00:00:12,870 --> 00:00:14,366 secular foxhole. 3 00:00:14,558 --> 00:00:17,518 Today it's Martin and I, and we're just going 4 00:00:17,534 --> 00:00:22,462 to go over some things that we picked out that we wanted to discuss, and we'll have some 5 00:00:22,486 --> 00:00:31,614 Olympic discussion and some objectivist discussion and a few other news items of what 6 00:00:31,662 --> 00:00:34,178 we think are of note. 7 00:00:34,314 --> 00:00:34,650 Martin: Yep. 8 00:00:34,690 --> 00:00:35,858 Blair: And how are you, Martin? 9 00:00:35,954 --> 00:00:36,490 Martin: I'm fine. 10 00:00:36,530 --> 00:00:41,170 And like you could say, label of description 11 00:00:41,210 --> 00:00:45,570 on ingredients is that we have two formats of this podcast. 12 00:00:45,730 --> 00:00:51,162 The main thing that we really enjoy and like is the guests that are adding value and 13 00:00:51,226 --> 00:00:56,602 research, and then we have interview them or having conversation or a mix of that and so 14 00:00:56,626 --> 00:00:56,978 on. 15 00:00:57,074 --> 00:00:59,730 And we will add that also maybe extra 16 00:00:59,770 --> 00:01:01,266 material, what we learn from that. 17 00:01:01,298 --> 00:01:04,462 But we let the guests talk and take the stage. 18 00:01:04,606 --> 00:01:10,582 When it's Blair and myself, we have so called do show, and then it could be some chitchat. 19 00:01:10,686 --> 00:01:15,782 Hopefully we have some value and content, and we have the thing that called new sandwich, 20 00:01:15,846 --> 00:01:23,934 the idea that we got from Amy Peacock that like the sandwich a good thing, something in 21 00:01:23,942 --> 00:01:27,894 the middle that is not, maybe not so good, and then ending on good thing. 22 00:01:27,942 --> 00:01:29,654 But sometimes we have only good things. 23 00:01:29,702 --> 00:01:32,596 Sometimes I not a good thing and sometimes a 24 00:01:32,628 --> 00:01:34,724 mix of strings. 25 00:01:34,852 --> 00:01:36,036 And you have that right now. 26 00:01:36,068 --> 00:01:38,476 You have digged up some news items here. 27 00:01:38,588 --> 00:01:39,316 Blair: Yes, I have. 28 00:01:39,388 --> 00:01:39,940 And they're. 29 00:01:40,020 --> 00:01:41,280 They're mostly good. 30 00:01:41,940 --> 00:01:42,532 Martin: Good to hear. 31 00:01:42,556 --> 00:01:43,332 We need that. 32 00:01:43,476 --> 00:01:45,036 Blair: And there's some very good things. 33 00:01:45,068 --> 00:01:46,316 And then mostly good. 34 00:01:46,428 --> 00:01:46,812 Martin: Yeah. 35 00:01:46,876 --> 00:01:48,164 Blair: So. But I can. 36 00:01:48,212 --> 00:01:49,916 I can start those off if you like. 37 00:01:50,028 --> 00:01:50,652 Martin: Yeah, please. 38 00:01:50,716 --> 00:01:51,212 Blair: There's. 39 00:01:51,316 --> 00:01:55,100 I just recently watched two great YouTube 40 00:01:55,140 --> 00:01:59,012 videos, both from the Ayn Rand Institute. 41 00:01:59,116 --> 00:02:02,052 The first one is called the secular moral 42 00:02:02,116 --> 00:02:07,120 alternative to Dawkins and Iann Hersey Ali. 43 00:02:07,940 --> 00:02:11,596 And this was about a 40 Minutes show narrated 44 00:02:11,628 --> 00:02:18,452 by Ben Baer, who's consistently doing outstanding work, in my personal opinion. 45 00:02:18,636 --> 00:02:27,476 And he dissects, if you will, the recent debate that Richard Dawkins and Miss Ali had. 46 00:02:27,548 --> 00:02:29,040 I guess it was in New York. 47 00:02:29,410 --> 00:02:33,746 And I do want to point out, Miss Ali recently 48 00:02:33,818 --> 00:02:39,466 converted to Christianity after being an outspoken atheist for many, perhaps over a 49 00:02:39,498 --> 00:02:43,590 decade, and had a courageous stand against Islam. 50 00:02:44,570 --> 00:02:48,858 But again, she recently converted to Christianity. 51 00:02:48,914 --> 00:02:53,682 And this alleged, I don't know if it was a debate more or less. 52 00:02:53,706 --> 00:02:58,670 It was more or less a discussion between Dawkins, the narrator, and mass Ali. 53 00:02:58,970 --> 00:03:07,514 But again, Ben comes at it from an objectivist point of view, and it's very enlightening. 54 00:03:07,682 --> 00:03:14,066 So I highly recommend that YouTube video called the secular moral alternative to 55 00:03:14,098 --> 00:03:19,430 Dawkins and Ian Hirsi Ali, which of course, means objectivism. 56 00:03:19,890 --> 00:03:25,522 And then the other video, this was, I think a recent certainly happened this year. 57 00:03:25,546 --> 00:03:27,010 I think it was in Europe, actually. 58 00:03:27,130 --> 00:03:31,286 Ankar Gate gave a speech called objectivists 59 00:03:31,398 --> 00:03:40,006 wanted why we need more objectivists, and not just philosophers, teachers, lawyers, 60 00:03:40,078 --> 00:03:42,006 whatever, but just in general. 61 00:03:42,198 --> 00:03:47,170 And it was very uplifting to me. 62 00:03:47,830 --> 00:03:53,890 Objectivism, frankly, is worth people taking a look at it. 63 00:03:54,830 --> 00:04:00,780 I know what I. I was basically an aimless, drifting 20 something year old when I was 64 00:04:00,820 --> 00:04:02,428 introduced to the fountainhead. 65 00:04:02,604 --> 00:04:03,964 And just. 66 00:04:04,052 --> 00:04:07,920 It changed my life for the better, I'm telling you. 67 00:04:09,460 --> 00:04:16,444 It was quite an eye opening and a great experience, something I really, really, really 68 00:04:16,492 --> 00:04:20,068 needed to focus my life and to better my life. 69 00:04:20,124 --> 00:04:24,352 And so that talk is very, very good. 70 00:04:24,376 --> 00:04:26,020 It's just over an hour. 71 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,968 And that was. 72 00:04:27,984 --> 00:04:28,820 So that was. 73 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,568 I recommend both of those YouTube videos from 74 00:04:32,584 --> 00:04:33,984 the Ayn Rand Institute. 75 00:04:34,152 --> 00:04:35,660 Martin: And I have a point there. 76 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,136 Go ahead. 77 00:04:37,288 --> 00:04:37,640 Yeah. 78 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Because we now talked about the different holy 79 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,136 scriptures and how you study. 80 00:04:42,288 --> 00:04:44,568 You could study in a way, and you could be a 81 00:04:44,624 --> 00:04:47,168 student of objectivism and Rand's philosophy. 82 00:04:47,344 --> 00:04:49,968 And then it's to apply it also to your life. 83 00:04:50,064 --> 00:04:50,640 Blair: Exactly. 84 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,972 Martin: And your profession and your hobbies, your passion, your interests, what not. 85 00:04:55,036 --> 00:04:59,652 And because it's a. Pat ran said it's a philosophy here on earth. 86 00:04:59,716 --> 00:05:00,316 Something like that. 87 00:05:00,348 --> 00:05:00,756 Right. 88 00:05:00,868 --> 00:05:01,380 Blair: For here. 89 00:05:01,420 --> 00:05:01,884 For living. 90 00:05:01,932 --> 00:05:02,380 Martin: For here. 91 00:05:02,460 --> 00:05:02,908 Yeah. 92 00:05:03,004 --> 00:05:04,200 Blair: For living on earth. 93 00:05:04,580 --> 00:05:07,580 Martin: So that's something to think about. 94 00:05:07,660 --> 00:05:11,956 And then I came as also news, you could say 95 00:05:12,148 --> 00:05:15,884 now you could have the artificial intelligence and robots. 96 00:05:16,052 --> 00:05:21,280 I know that Amy Peekov had a Twitter account called Randrobot or something like that. 97 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:23,936 Yeah, Randbot. 98 00:05:23,968 --> 00:05:24,440 Yeah. 99 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,328 And now it's built on something from Delphi AI. 100 00:05:29,384 --> 00:05:34,752 I think we will include that in the show notes, both Rand and also Aristotle. 101 00:05:34,896 --> 00:05:36,984 And that was pretty fascinating to write. 102 00:05:37,032 --> 00:05:38,272 Something I wrote. 103 00:05:38,456 --> 00:05:44,232 Which book or work should I start with? Or could you start with. 104 00:05:44,416 --> 00:05:47,220 And then it was in her voice. 105 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,728 Blair: Pretty close to her voice, I think. 106 00:05:49,784 --> 00:05:55,140 Martin: Yeah. And what we recommended, either it was something from a lecture or it was 107 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,960 somewhere it's coming from. 108 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,344 And I thought that was really neat. 109 00:06:00,432 --> 00:06:05,728 But then it said from the gecko that you should go to the source, read Rand's work, and 110 00:06:05,784 --> 00:06:10,160 listen to courses and interviews and whatnot. 111 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,152 But this is really interesting, because you 112 00:06:14,176 --> 00:06:19,964 could then use AI in a positive and productive and rational way. 113 00:06:20,052 --> 00:06:21,732 So I was impressed. 114 00:06:21,756 --> 00:06:23,652 And I will look into this Aristotle thing, 115 00:06:23,676 --> 00:06:27,444 because if you are not a scholar or not, that's your career. 116 00:06:27,532 --> 00:06:29,400 You could learn something from that also. 117 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:32,604 So, yeah, I thought that was a night. 118 00:06:32,732 --> 00:06:38,588 Blair: I really appreciated that link to the Aristotle page, because yeah, I asked it. 119 00:06:38,764 --> 00:06:40,484 Martin: And we could do also something. 120 00:06:40,532 --> 00:06:43,772 I interrupt you, Blair, but what Rad has said, 121 00:06:43,876 --> 00:06:46,786 has she said Thomas Aquinas? Is he. 122 00:06:46,818 --> 00:06:47,594 Blair: Aquinas? Yeah. 123 00:06:47,642 --> 00:06:51,842 Martin: Aquinas. Yeah. Is he like a full philosopher or she, she never mentioned 124 00:06:51,866 --> 00:06:54,458 somebody that she say good, good enough. 125 00:06:54,514 --> 00:06:56,306 But like a half or something like that. 126 00:06:56,338 --> 00:06:56,698 Blair: Right. 127 00:06:56,794 --> 00:06:57,554 He was only half. 128 00:06:57,602 --> 00:06:58,074 Right. 129 00:06:58,202 --> 00:06:58,962 Now I put it. 130 00:06:58,986 --> 00:07:05,770 Martin: Anyway, he tried to, you know, he tried to use reason to prove God by logic, so. 131 00:07:05,850 --> 00:07:08,098 Blair: Yeah. And it's not possible. 132 00:07:08,274 --> 00:07:09,386 Martin: Yeah. Good luck with that. 133 00:07:09,418 --> 00:07:11,938 But you have to then understand the historical 134 00:07:11,994 --> 00:07:12,750 context. 135 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:13,960 Blair: True, true. 136 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,240 But again, that half that effort back in the, 137 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,104 in the dark ages, if you will, at the end of the dark ages, laid the groundwork for the 138 00:07:23,192 --> 00:07:23,880 Renaissance. 139 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:24,656 Martin: Yep. 140 00:07:24,808 --> 00:07:33,704 Blair: And the rediscovery of Aristotle and I, again, I think we're in the death throes of 141 00:07:33,752 --> 00:07:36,016 the end of the kantian age. 142 00:07:36,088 --> 00:07:40,062 Now, how long that's going to take a, it may 143 00:07:40,086 --> 00:07:44,610 take, it may take decades, it may take six months. 144 00:07:45,790 --> 00:07:47,822 Martin: Again, it's now interrupt you again. 145 00:07:47,926 --> 00:07:49,294 But it's good that you interrupt you because 146 00:07:49,342 --> 00:07:55,366 there we could then invite guests that are real expert and find value and interest and 147 00:07:55,398 --> 00:07:58,254 passion and time and energy to dive into that. 148 00:07:58,342 --> 00:07:58,582 Blair: Yeah. 149 00:07:58,606 --> 00:08:01,478 Martin: That's how you and I, we probably have some. 150 00:08:01,654 --> 00:08:02,894 Yeah, we know that. 151 00:08:02,942 --> 00:08:03,270 Okay. 152 00:08:03,310 --> 00:08:06,770 How many generations? And then you have to again, see the context 153 00:08:08,190 --> 00:08:11,990 did Kant has lot, had lot of competition, so to speak. 154 00:08:12,530 --> 00:08:20,474 And how did it spread like Aristotle's ideas that again, over again, I come back to that 155 00:08:20,522 --> 00:08:23,058 book, the Aristotle Adventure. 156 00:08:23,194 --> 00:08:24,354 Blair: Yeah. It was a wonderful book. 157 00:08:24,402 --> 00:08:24,650 Yes. 158 00:08:24,690 --> 00:08:34,034 Martin: By how his ideas survived and moved forward and ended up in all kind of different 159 00:08:34,082 --> 00:08:36,948 places again. 160 00:08:37,044 --> 00:08:38,400 I think it's interesting. 161 00:08:39,460 --> 00:08:45,860 I hope so also that can't era is over, then the question is what will come instead? 162 00:08:45,980 --> 00:08:47,280 Blair: Right, right. 163 00:08:47,740 --> 00:08:50,160 And that's not looking too good either. 164 00:08:51,340 --> 00:08:52,772 Martin: We should try to see positive. 165 00:08:52,836 --> 00:08:56,452 And I see several positive signs also. 166 00:08:56,596 --> 00:08:57,268 Blair: Absolutely. 167 00:08:57,324 --> 00:08:58,812 There's no question that. 168 00:08:58,996 --> 00:09:01,420 Martin: And you had something that sort of mixed. 169 00:09:01,460 --> 00:09:03,796 It was like a rock musician, right? 170 00:09:03,948 --> 00:09:13,764 Blair: Yes. Yeah. This Breitbart reported that Morrissey, in a recent concert, he accused 171 00:09:13,932 --> 00:09:22,484 doctor Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates and the World Economic Forum head Klaus Schwab, or Klaus 172 00:09:22,572 --> 00:09:28,228 Schwab of being criminals and was tied to a song. 173 00:09:28,284 --> 00:09:30,200 Let me see if I can find the song. 174 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:31,848 Let me see. 175 00:09:31,904 --> 00:09:34,112 Where is that? Here we go. 176 00:09:34,216 --> 00:09:35,344 All right, let's see. 177 00:09:35,512 --> 00:09:39,400 He was singing a song called the World is full 178 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,940 of crashing boars. 179 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,220 Martin: Yeah. 180 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,088 Blair: And he had those three faces rotating on a screen behind him. 181 00:09:47,224 --> 00:09:51,912 Martin: Yeah. We will not play the song because then it's you know, it writes, but we 182 00:09:51,936 --> 00:09:53,552 have the value for value there. 183 00:09:53,616 --> 00:09:55,920 But in the future, musicians could get 184 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:56,976 something for that. 185 00:09:57,088 --> 00:09:57,520 Blair: True. 186 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:03,276 Martin: But it's also interesting if this satirical thing or a parody or freedom of 187 00:10:03,308 --> 00:10:04,732 expression, if that's okay. 188 00:10:04,836 --> 00:10:08,292 I recently saw, like Boss Fostwin had 189 00:10:08,476 --> 00:10:14,120 comments, some political commentary about, you know, the political race now. 190 00:10:15,340 --> 00:10:20,700 And these images was removed by Instagram. 191 00:10:20,860 --> 00:10:21,516 Blair: Really? 192 00:10:21,668 --> 00:10:23,964 Martin: Yeah. So something to think about. 193 00:10:24,012 --> 00:10:25,468 Of course, they are private company. 194 00:10:25,524 --> 00:10:27,892 They could do whatever they want in a way. 195 00:10:28,036 --> 00:10:31,160 But it's interesting how this is coming. 196 00:10:31,780 --> 00:10:32,548 Push to show. 197 00:10:32,604 --> 00:10:34,412 Or how do you say push to show? 198 00:10:34,476 --> 00:10:35,120 Blair: Yeah. 199 00:10:35,420 --> 00:10:40,516 Martin: So it will be interesting in a way, autumn, and see what's, what's happening. 200 00:10:40,588 --> 00:10:44,556 I mean, really, it's taking from like a Hollywood movie. 201 00:10:44,588 --> 00:10:47,828 You could say everything what's going on right now, right? 202 00:10:48,004 --> 00:10:49,052 Yes, but it's good. 203 00:10:49,076 --> 00:10:52,452 But musicians like rock and roll and others 204 00:10:52,516 --> 00:10:56,100 are really coming out and saying something like that also, so. 205 00:10:56,180 --> 00:10:58,022 Blair: Yeah, that's true. 206 00:10:58,206 --> 00:11:00,958 But those were the three items I wanted to 207 00:11:00,974 --> 00:11:01,902 highlight today. 208 00:11:02,086 --> 00:11:02,810 Good. 209 00:11:03,670 --> 00:11:04,570 Go ahead. 210 00:11:06,190 --> 00:11:09,758 You've got some good news around, so go for 211 00:11:09,774 --> 00:11:10,406 it. 212 00:11:10,598 --> 00:11:14,870 Martin: And we talked a little about that in green room. 213 00:11:14,910 --> 00:11:18,542 And we will get to the content and we hopefully got to the content. 214 00:11:18,646 --> 00:11:25,794 But some time ago, I searched for our own podcast, and I recommend that as a new media 215 00:11:25,842 --> 00:11:27,150 advisor to do that. 216 00:11:27,530 --> 00:11:33,578 And then I found on October, we'll see here. 217 00:11:33,714 --> 00:11:45,538 It was 1823 and it was a review of our episode 72 by Dave Jackson on a podcast rodeo show or 218 00:11:45,554 --> 00:11:46,434 something like that. 219 00:11:46,482 --> 00:11:49,282 I think now it's called hot seat and you pay 220 00:11:49,426 --> 00:11:50,618 for the reviews. 221 00:11:50,754 --> 00:11:53,242 But we didn't ask for a review. 222 00:11:53,306 --> 00:11:57,044 But we thank and give hat tips to pod fans. 223 00:11:57,092 --> 00:11:58,116 Now it's called true fans. 224 00:11:58,148 --> 00:12:04,420 So Sam Seti, I think he got that input or something, came into his, you could say, 225 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:07,920 stream recommendation to review this. 226 00:12:08,420 --> 00:12:11,956 So it was interesting and I took some notes 227 00:12:11,988 --> 00:12:20,516 and we will learn from that and get to the content and explain in the show notes and the 228 00:12:20,548 --> 00:12:23,880 subject line and titles what the show is all about. 229 00:12:24,390 --> 00:12:31,502 That said, it's also our show, so we could have chit chat and some back and forth. 230 00:12:31,566 --> 00:12:35,062 Also, I will include that in show notes. 231 00:12:35,086 --> 00:12:38,862 So please listen to that review and see what 232 00:12:38,886 --> 00:12:39,942 you think about it. 233 00:12:40,046 --> 00:12:40,446 Blair: I will. 234 00:12:40,478 --> 00:12:41,606 Of course I will. 235 00:12:41,758 --> 00:12:46,486 Martin: And also our listeners, for example, he said something about the bumper and what 236 00:12:46,518 --> 00:12:52,182 you could have and also planning, and we do some planning and we have some document to 237 00:12:52,206 --> 00:12:52,998 prepare. 238 00:12:53,174 --> 00:12:58,342 And also then that this is, as I said, is a 239 00:12:58,366 --> 00:12:58,982 duo show. 240 00:12:59,046 --> 00:13:00,086 And then we have guests. 241 00:13:00,118 --> 00:13:03,330 It's more a conversation and focused on the guest. 242 00:13:03,910 --> 00:13:12,250 So, yeah, so I thought that and then congratulations to Dave for getting a gig here 243 00:13:12,870 --> 00:13:14,294 on pod page. 244 00:13:14,462 --> 00:13:16,006 And we are using that. 245 00:13:16,118 --> 00:13:18,150 You bought that service? 246 00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:20,648 Blair: Yes. Page I. 247 00:13:20,774 --> 00:13:26,420 Martin: So we have that site where the secularfoxhole dot live, right? 248 00:13:26,540 --> 00:13:27,240 Blair: Yes. 249 00:13:27,660 --> 00:13:29,260 Martin: And we will do more about that. 250 00:13:29,340 --> 00:13:31,700 I commented a little bit about different 251 00:13:31,820 --> 00:13:37,188 badges and these new modern podcast apps because we will promote that more and more. 252 00:13:37,284 --> 00:13:42,796 The listener decides how the listener wants to listen, but we want to promote new modern 253 00:13:42,828 --> 00:13:49,180 podcast apps so we could adding this value for value model into the system. 254 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,656 So I think that was that and what more? Yeah. 255 00:13:54,688 --> 00:13:56,632 Do you want to hear some stats? Stats and. 256 00:13:56,736 --> 00:13:57,296 Yeah. 257 00:13:57,408 --> 00:13:57,912 Stats? 258 00:13:57,976 --> 00:13:59,160 Blair: What stats? Absolutely. 259 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,368 I like our stats. 260 00:14:00,504 --> 00:14:05,752 Martin: Yeah. And I must say we had a record month and this is also to explain to the 261 00:14:05,776 --> 00:14:09,620 listeners if I value this and what we are doing, especially with the guests. 262 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:12,792 Again, I want to onboard all our guests. 263 00:14:12,816 --> 00:14:15,352 It's like 30 individuals, so they could get a 264 00:14:15,376 --> 00:14:17,900 split office for the future. 265 00:14:18,340 --> 00:14:21,556 But we had 300 downloads last month. 266 00:14:21,708 --> 00:14:22,372 Blair: Nice. 267 00:14:22,516 --> 00:14:25,940 Martin: And I often say we have around seven listeners per day. 268 00:14:26,060 --> 00:14:28,956 So now that's more than that latest month. 269 00:14:29,108 --> 00:14:31,596 And unique listeners, about 150. 270 00:14:31,668 --> 00:14:38,052 So maybe every individual listened like twice on the same episode, on other episodes or 271 00:14:38,076 --> 00:14:41,188 several episodes or parts of episodes and whatnot. 272 00:14:41,284 --> 00:14:42,460 And with true fans. 273 00:14:42,580 --> 00:14:45,428 As a side note, I had a conversation with Sam 274 00:14:45,484 --> 00:14:47,174 Sativara there. 275 00:14:47,222 --> 00:14:49,798 We could see lots of interesting features in 276 00:14:49,854 --> 00:14:52,558 future with data and statistics and. 277 00:14:52,614 --> 00:14:55,550 Yeah, so that could really be interesting for 278 00:14:55,670 --> 00:15:01,690 podcasters, for listeners, for everyone involved in this so called industry and 279 00:15:03,070 --> 00:15:06,470 category of programming. 280 00:15:06,630 --> 00:15:07,286 Great. 281 00:15:07,438 --> 00:15:16,152 And so in total we have ten k. 10,000 downloads and listeners in total since we 282 00:15:16,176 --> 00:15:16,504 started. 283 00:15:16,592 --> 00:15:20,968 Around 5000 individual unique listeners. 284 00:15:21,144 --> 00:15:22,140 Blair: That's great. 285 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,056 Martin: Then I have the commentary. 286 00:15:24,128 --> 00:15:26,200 You have to take it a bit of grain of salt 287 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,760 because you could do different things. 288 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,008 And I have a list of countries here and then I 289 00:15:30,024 --> 00:15:31,296 will have a thought about that. 290 00:15:31,328 --> 00:15:32,352 What did you say, Blair? 291 00:15:32,496 --> 00:15:37,384 Blair: I was going to say that's 10,000 since our inception four years ago, right? 292 00:15:37,432 --> 00:15:38,060 Martin: Yeah. 293 00:15:38,490 --> 00:15:40,226 Blair: Well, I think that's pretty good. 294 00:15:40,378 --> 00:15:41,226 Martin: I think so. 295 00:15:41,338 --> 00:15:44,290 For the so called niche podcast. 296 00:15:44,450 --> 00:15:46,018 Blair: Yep, niche is correct. 297 00:15:46,154 --> 00:15:51,522 Martin: Yeah. So, but interesting with the stats also we want listeners to look at the 298 00:15:51,546 --> 00:15:54,610 opportunity to have a new modern podcast app. 299 00:15:54,650 --> 00:15:57,842 But also as true fans is a progressive web 300 00:15:57,906 --> 00:15:58,586 app. 301 00:15:58,778 --> 00:16:00,954 And there, so you could use it in your regular 302 00:16:01,002 --> 00:16:05,480 web browser and on the phone and it will apply accordingly. 303 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:11,208 So you don't have to download an app, but most of the listeners are listening to desktop 304 00:16:11,264 --> 00:16:13,136 browser and Chrome, for example. 305 00:16:13,248 --> 00:16:13,784 Blair: Right. 306 00:16:13,912 --> 00:16:19,000 Martin: So if we could get listeners to look into true fans and you could then sign up for 307 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:24,816 free and then you could get gamification and you could get satoshis that you could use to 308 00:16:24,848 --> 00:16:28,256 us or to themselves or some other podcasters. 309 00:16:28,368 --> 00:16:32,948 So to get into this system and thinking so I 310 00:16:33,004 --> 00:16:41,324 see great potential here with true fans and that's the trader principle. 311 00:16:41,372 --> 00:16:48,892 If we get new users to true fans and listeners and guests and they will get Satoshis, then if 312 00:16:48,916 --> 00:16:55,436 they want they could have this tray the principle and say, oh, it was worth to be as a 313 00:16:55,468 --> 00:16:59,040 guest or your content or your value, your information. 314 00:16:59,830 --> 00:17:03,094 Yeah, but it will take some time, right? 315 00:17:03,222 --> 00:17:03,970 Blair: Yes. 316 00:17:04,670 --> 00:17:09,774 Martin: And then I'm thinking of adding something, a captivated feature called Amy. 317 00:17:09,942 --> 00:17:14,798 Like I think it's standing for automatic insertion message or something like that. 318 00:17:14,974 --> 00:17:21,526 Often it's for advertising and we don't have, you know, our podcast is not suitable for ads. 319 00:17:21,558 --> 00:17:26,878 We're not big like that and we don't want to have interruption to have commercial breaks in 320 00:17:26,894 --> 00:17:27,744 that way. 321 00:17:27,942 --> 00:17:30,188 But we could have a call to action and then we 322 00:17:30,204 --> 00:17:31,532 could change it over time. 323 00:17:31,636 --> 00:17:33,484 So I will play around with that. 324 00:17:33,612 --> 00:17:35,196 Sounds good, more clear. 325 00:17:35,268 --> 00:17:37,940 And also we could have something what this 326 00:17:37,980 --> 00:17:40,124 show is about and so on. 327 00:17:40,252 --> 00:17:42,540 And we have to think about that now when I'm 328 00:17:42,580 --> 00:17:48,180 talking to maybe update our so called trailer because that's long time ago now and pretty 329 00:17:48,220 --> 00:17:50,220 long and maybe we have to do it more spiffy. 330 00:17:50,260 --> 00:17:50,884 I don't know. 331 00:17:50,972 --> 00:17:58,206 But still I standing for that first recording, the first trail and first episode got us 332 00:17:58,238 --> 00:17:58,550 going. 333 00:17:58,630 --> 00:17:58,982 Blair. 334 00:17:59,046 --> 00:18:00,406 Blair: Yes, that's a long time ago now. 335 00:18:00,438 --> 00:18:01,054 Yeah. 336 00:18:01,222 --> 00:18:07,886 Martin: So with that said, the latest month here on countries is United States as usual, 337 00:18:07,998 --> 00:18:10,310 like still over 50%. 338 00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:14,902 But then the next one is China, 20%. 339 00:18:15,046 --> 00:18:20,462 So do you think, do we have any objectivists and some others are in China that listen to us 340 00:18:20,486 --> 00:18:24,600 or could it be to Hong Kong or I, because that I haven't seen before. 341 00:18:25,380 --> 00:18:28,020 Blair: I would assume it's Hong Kong to be honest. 342 00:18:28,180 --> 00:18:29,996 Martin: Yeah, that's great. 343 00:18:30,148 --> 00:18:33,532 And that's really great that we could listen 344 00:18:33,596 --> 00:18:34,100 from that. 345 00:18:34,180 --> 00:18:35,900 And then the third one is other. 346 00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:38,164 So I wonder if that's VPN. 347 00:18:38,292 --> 00:18:40,956 And of course if you have privacy, if you 348 00:18:40,988 --> 00:18:47,228 don't want to show we can't know and that we shouldn't and we don't want to an individual 349 00:18:47,284 --> 00:18:49,762 listener, we can't have go by name that somebody. 350 00:18:49,786 --> 00:18:50,354 Blair: Well that's true. 351 00:18:50,402 --> 00:18:50,914 Yeah. 352 00:18:51,042 --> 00:18:56,018 Martin: But if of course if they send a booster gram and say their name, then we'll do 353 00:18:56,034 --> 00:18:57,266 a shout out to them. 354 00:18:57,418 --> 00:19:00,002 So in a way that you could have this VPN and 355 00:19:00,026 --> 00:19:02,578 privacy and say no other country. 356 00:19:02,754 --> 00:19:05,590 But on the other hand we think it's fun to see 357 00:19:06,050 --> 00:19:07,178 different countries. 358 00:19:07,354 --> 00:19:08,626 So that was the third one. 359 00:19:08,658 --> 00:19:15,060 So somebody out there or several have started using VPN or some country that maybe it's the. 360 00:19:15,210 --> 00:19:15,824 To joke. 361 00:19:15,872 --> 00:19:20,272 Maybe it's the Lieberland or seastead country. 362 00:19:20,376 --> 00:19:23,216 Blair: Oh, maybe something like that. 363 00:19:23,248 --> 00:19:24,024 Martin: To joke. 364 00:19:24,192 --> 00:19:27,760 Yeah. And then Canada and then Sweden for some 365 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:28,380 reason. 366 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,368 United Kingdom, Portugal and the Netherlands, 367 00:19:33,504 --> 00:19:34,712 Australia and Belgium. 368 00:19:34,776 --> 00:19:35,500 That was. 369 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:36,640 Blair: I like that. 370 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,152 I like that. 371 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:38,140 I love Australia. 372 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:43,048 I'm getting old, but one of my bucket list 373 00:19:43,144 --> 00:19:44,866 dreams is to go to Australia. 374 00:19:45,048 --> 00:19:50,134 Martin: Yeah. When you could meet one of great podcasters out there, James Kridland. 375 00:19:50,182 --> 00:19:59,174 And he's all over the place traveling, but he has pod news podcast and also with Sam Setty, 376 00:19:59,262 --> 00:20:00,462 they have a show there. 377 00:20:00,606 --> 00:20:04,646 So Orino from Australia and you know Karen 378 00:20:04,718 --> 00:20:05,330 down. 379 00:20:05,710 --> 00:20:07,950 Yes, I remember that great review of our 380 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:08,730 podcast. 381 00:20:09,630 --> 00:20:12,150 He has recently been in Brazil, and now he was 382 00:20:12,190 --> 00:20:15,424 in Nashville to this bitcoin conference. 383 00:20:15,472 --> 00:20:17,736 And especially this value for, value for 384 00:20:17,768 --> 00:20:20,864 musicians that they did close to this conference. 385 00:20:21,032 --> 00:20:22,700 So he went there. 386 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,112 Yeah, Nashville. 387 00:20:26,296 --> 00:20:30,620 And do you listen to lots of country music there? 388 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:38,448 Blair: I have termed myself a chronic channel changer on the radio. 389 00:20:38,584 --> 00:20:39,276 Martin: Yeah. 390 00:20:39,448 --> 00:20:41,356 Blair: So I listen to everything. 391 00:20:41,508 --> 00:20:42,244 Yeah. 392 00:20:42,412 --> 00:20:47,660 But I also, I have serious radio, which I do tend to not change so much. 393 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:50,892 I have, I love eighties music. 394 00:20:51,036 --> 00:20:51,800 Martin: Yeah. 395 00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:54,468 Blair: Sixties music. 396 00:20:54,524 --> 00:20:58,980 So those two decades, and then my, the 397 00:20:59,020 --> 00:21:03,940 National Football League channel on Sirius radio, and then one or two others, some 398 00:21:03,980 --> 00:21:07,590 others, there's a prime country and so on and so forth. 399 00:21:07,630 --> 00:21:13,750 But those four or five stations are worth the $6.50 a month I pay for a serious radio. 400 00:21:13,790 --> 00:21:18,110 Martin: Okay. And where we talk about value, value for value again, in a way. 401 00:21:18,190 --> 00:21:22,934 And it's interesting to see how the all time radio, how they are doing it. 402 00:21:22,982 --> 00:21:28,678 And you have this national public radio and you have commercial stations, and it will be 403 00:21:28,694 --> 00:21:32,174 interesting to follow what was going on here. 404 00:21:32,262 --> 00:21:32,534 So. 405 00:21:32,582 --> 00:21:33,702 Blair: Yeah, true, true. 406 00:21:33,766 --> 00:21:39,574 Martin: And then we talked about the randbot, as I said, and we have to in the future talk 407 00:21:39,622 --> 00:21:47,142 about what's happening in Venezuela and also what happened recently in Iran and Lebanon. 408 00:21:47,286 --> 00:21:49,010 Blair: Aha. Yes, that's right. 409 00:21:49,310 --> 00:21:52,170 Martin: Really interesting development, so to speak. 410 00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:54,206 And the Olympics. 411 00:21:54,318 --> 00:21:57,806 I will only say that some Christians, I think, 412 00:21:57,918 --> 00:22:05,982 mostly got upset that they had, I got upset for another way because it was so called a 413 00:22:06,006 --> 00:22:09,810 parody of a great work of art, you know, the last Supper. 414 00:22:10,590 --> 00:22:13,198 But again, they could do it if they want. 415 00:22:13,294 --> 00:22:14,250 But it was. 416 00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:15,006 Yeah. 417 00:22:15,038 --> 00:22:16,886 So it was a bit political, correct. 418 00:22:16,958 --> 00:22:25,646 It was maybe not good taste, but the uproar by Christians about this, I have some issues with 419 00:22:25,758 --> 00:22:26,410 also. 420 00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:32,062 And overall, we should celebrate athletic, you 421 00:22:32,086 --> 00:22:35,590 know, wins and development and. 422 00:22:35,670 --> 00:22:38,190 Yeah, all things going on, the only. 423 00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:42,350 Blair: Reason I watch the Olympics is to hero worship. 424 00:22:42,510 --> 00:22:47,574 Martin: Good. Yeah, and we talked about that in the green room about table tennis, ping 425 00:22:47,622 --> 00:22:49,770 pong and other. 426 00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:54,730 Blair: I'm a swimming and gymnastics freak. 427 00:22:56,510 --> 00:22:56,798 Martin: At. 428 00:22:56,814 --> 00:22:57,992 Blair: Least in the Summer Olympics. 429 00:22:58,086 --> 00:23:01,548 Martin: Yeah. So we will probably come back to that. 430 00:23:01,684 --> 00:23:07,588 And now I see we have talked to a little bit, but we have some important, you could say news 431 00:23:07,644 --> 00:23:08,300 and development. 432 00:23:08,420 --> 00:23:10,932 And I'm really running with scissors here. 433 00:23:11,116 --> 00:23:16,500 I have set up with help of an objectivist, or interested in objectivism and rans philosophy 434 00:23:16,580 --> 00:23:18,560 Tolmec in Poland. 435 00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:22,132 So he helped me with onboarding to get my own 436 00:23:22,196 --> 00:23:25,190 hub or node on Albie. 437 00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:29,746 So it's hard for me to explain what really is. 438 00:23:29,898 --> 00:23:39,922 But I bought by my fiat currency, bought 80,000 satoshis, and that's around 500 swedish 439 00:23:39,946 --> 00:23:41,178 crowns or $50. 440 00:23:41,314 --> 00:23:43,110 And then I set up this. 441 00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:50,754 They recommended to have around 250,000 in order to have liquidity and be able to receive 442 00:23:50,802 --> 00:23:51,338 and send. 443 00:23:51,394 --> 00:23:55,440 Because it's like channel, it's like open bank 444 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:00,744 system, you could say, in a decentralized financial way. 445 00:24:00,872 --> 00:24:02,528 Blair: Yes, that's about all. 446 00:24:02,544 --> 00:24:08,216 Martin: I am amazing and I am not the tech guy and I running with scissors, maybe I will 447 00:24:08,248 --> 00:24:09,180 break things. 448 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,256 Of course, if I lose the satoshis, that's one 449 00:24:13,288 --> 00:24:13,480 thing. 450 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,800 But it's interesting, if more individuals like 451 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:23,728 me, that not technical will do this over time, that will be very interesting impact. 452 00:24:23,904 --> 00:24:24,264 Blair: Yes. 453 00:24:24,312 --> 00:24:28,792 Martin: And that's again why I say that it was so great to have a real expert like Dave. 454 00:24:28,976 --> 00:24:34,368 Or is it David Dave? Yeah, on the show explaining what is really 455 00:24:34,464 --> 00:24:40,456 bitcoin and cryptocurrency and how you protect it and what we should stand up for and 456 00:24:40,528 --> 00:24:41,380 etcetera. 457 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:42,856 So I got that. 458 00:24:42,888 --> 00:24:48,310 So right now I have like 15,000 satouches in receiving capacity. 459 00:24:48,770 --> 00:24:55,362 And that's meaning if somebody will send us a donation of 15,000, I could receive it, but 460 00:24:55,386 --> 00:24:56,290 it's more than that. 461 00:24:56,330 --> 00:24:58,870 Then there will be problem in the channel. 462 00:25:00,010 --> 00:25:01,826 So that's something to think. 463 00:25:01,858 --> 00:25:05,178 That's why we recommended to have 250,000 464 00:25:05,234 --> 00:25:06,138 satoshis. 465 00:25:06,274 --> 00:25:11,706 But at this day, age or time, it's around 1500 466 00:25:11,738 --> 00:25:13,832 swedish crowns or $150. 467 00:25:14,026 --> 00:25:16,172 To get that, of course you own them and you 468 00:25:16,196 --> 00:25:20,332 keep them, but then you spread this out in these different channels. 469 00:25:20,396 --> 00:25:22,700 So you could have receiving and incoming. 470 00:25:22,860 --> 00:25:26,068 So now I have been spending off the 80,000 I 471 00:25:26,084 --> 00:25:30,932 have been spending, and then they are going to this receiving capacity. 472 00:25:31,076 --> 00:25:36,404 So for 80,000 approximately now I have 65 of spending. 473 00:25:36,452 --> 00:25:42,566 So I have spent around 15,000 you know, so I will be able to receive 15. 474 00:25:42,758 --> 00:25:47,650 Do you see what I'm saying? So it's like a channel, like a balance. 475 00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:50,486 And I'm already lost in explaining it. 476 00:25:50,518 --> 00:25:52,382 But that's why we should have guests on the 477 00:25:52,406 --> 00:25:52,970 show. 478 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:57,382 Blair: I'll have David try to get David back so he can teach you. 479 00:25:57,486 --> 00:26:01,070 Martin: So in order to really get this going, I have to open a new channel. 480 00:26:01,110 --> 00:26:08,318 But then I have to get some satoshis in order to do that because I don't have extra laying 481 00:26:08,374 --> 00:26:11,802 around 1500 swedish crowns or $150 for this. 482 00:26:11,906 --> 00:26:13,634 So I'm already out of my league. 483 00:26:13,722 --> 00:26:15,390 But it was fun to test. 484 00:26:15,690 --> 00:26:20,170 And you now, acquaintance and a person, an 485 00:26:20,210 --> 00:26:26,498 individual that's interested in Rand's ideas by chance and also explaining this, what they 486 00:26:26,514 --> 00:26:27,898 are doing at Albie. 487 00:26:28,034 --> 00:26:29,170 It's really fascinating. 488 00:26:29,250 --> 00:26:33,442 So I'm happy to be alive in this day of age. 489 00:26:33,586 --> 00:26:34,130 Blair: That's true. 490 00:26:34,170 --> 00:26:36,554 I mean, regardless of all the negative 491 00:26:36,642 --> 00:26:37,590 negativity. 492 00:26:38,170 --> 00:26:43,608 Again, if we go to humanprogress.org, that 493 00:26:43,664 --> 00:26:47,512 will boost everyone's spirits, if you will. 494 00:26:47,656 --> 00:26:49,192 Martin: And you can. 495 00:26:49,216 --> 00:26:49,696 That's good. 496 00:26:49,768 --> 00:26:52,568 So maybe get somebody there from. 497 00:26:52,744 --> 00:26:55,952 And also roots of progress also. 498 00:26:56,096 --> 00:26:57,632 Blair: That's. Yes, Jason Crawford. 499 00:26:57,696 --> 00:26:59,680 Yeah, that's become an institute now. 500 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,456 Yeah, that's right. 501 00:27:00,528 --> 00:27:02,064 I think we mentioned that on the last show. 502 00:27:02,112 --> 00:27:04,880 Martin: Yeah. So a case in point here now. 503 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,800 And I now I'm babbling a bit, but we'll see 504 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,000 here how we are doing. 505 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,854 Yeah, around a half an hour. 506 00:27:10,982 --> 00:27:15,870 So 221905 satoshis. 507 00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:17,374 And you know what that is? 508 00:27:17,462 --> 00:27:19,422 Blair: I do, I sign Ren's birthday. 509 00:27:19,526 --> 00:27:22,974 Martin: Yeah. So that's a booster grant that I've added to the GitHub page. 510 00:27:23,022 --> 00:27:24,926 The numerology page. 511 00:27:25,038 --> 00:27:25,350 Blair: Yes. 512 00:27:25,390 --> 00:27:30,290 Martin: So when I back in the now it's around 1500 swedish crowns for $150. 513 00:27:30,670 --> 00:27:32,622 Some years ago when we did. 514 00:27:32,686 --> 00:27:35,342 When I did this, it was around 500 swedish 515 00:27:35,366 --> 00:27:37,128 crowns or $50. 516 00:27:37,304 --> 00:27:40,072 So my question is, what happened with the 517 00:27:40,096 --> 00:27:45,380 value of bitcoin and the so called value of the fiat currency? 518 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,592 So that's something to think about and introspect and. 519 00:27:50,736 --> 00:27:55,912 Yeah, maybe again have an expert on explaining what's going on. 520 00:27:56,096 --> 00:28:00,512 Blair: Yeah. Okay. I'll do my best to get somebody. 521 00:28:00,616 --> 00:28:05,980 Martin: Yeah. Thanks again, Tomik to help me onboarding on Albi and also to meet the new 522 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,740 objectivist. 523 00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:10,852 Objectivist and interest in Rand's ideas and 524 00:28:10,876 --> 00:28:11,596 apply it. 525 00:28:11,708 --> 00:28:12,100 Really. 526 00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:14,660 And so that's great. 527 00:28:14,820 --> 00:28:15,356 So true. 528 00:28:15,388 --> 00:28:16,716 Fans has an ending. 529 00:28:16,908 --> 00:28:20,036 Sam said he's doing new features all the time 530 00:28:20,068 --> 00:28:25,540 and I had a call with him and we are really getting close to so called top up your wallet 531 00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:28,004 with fiat currency or any credit card. 532 00:28:28,052 --> 00:28:29,804 So you could start playing around with this 533 00:28:29,852 --> 00:28:31,652 and start getting into it. 534 00:28:31,756 --> 00:28:33,612 So that's great because then it will be easier 535 00:28:33,636 --> 00:28:36,960 for us to onboarding our guests and listeners and others. 536 00:28:37,330 --> 00:28:47,066 So this will go around back and forth as a trader principle and then also adding the 537 00:28:47,098 --> 00:28:47,626 split. 538 00:28:47,738 --> 00:28:48,690 So I will do that. 539 00:28:48,730 --> 00:28:51,170 So really interesting developments here. 540 00:28:51,210 --> 00:28:53,674 And Sam is doing a great job. 541 00:28:53,722 --> 00:29:00,874 And we talked also about that he will be a future guest on a specific topic when it comes 542 00:29:00,922 --> 00:29:04,070 to podcasting and conferences and whatnot. 543 00:29:04,810 --> 00:29:07,434 And then I wanted to talk in the future that 544 00:29:07,482 --> 00:29:10,642 we should think about getting a new podcast artwork. 545 00:29:10,746 --> 00:29:13,546 And I think we should find some fine artists out there. 546 00:29:13,578 --> 00:29:18,994 What we have had on our show, and also I have had on my show ego netkost. 547 00:29:19,122 --> 00:29:24,450 But for that, because we value their work and we know that they want to get paid for that. 548 00:29:24,570 --> 00:29:27,650 We have to find some campaign or whatnot and so on. 549 00:29:27,690 --> 00:29:33,122 But we were very open and transparent about that because I think the artwork, I like it as 550 00:29:33,146 --> 00:29:38,482 it is, but I think it's time to get to the next level, so to speak. 551 00:29:38,586 --> 00:29:42,746 Blair: Yeah, well, the original was my crew drawing, so to speak, that was enhanced. 552 00:29:42,778 --> 00:29:45,194 Martin: Yeah. But it's been working fine, Blair. 553 00:29:45,242 --> 00:29:50,426 Yes, and that again with free market. 554 00:29:50,578 --> 00:29:53,002 I got it from fiverr with somebody, I think it 555 00:29:53,026 --> 00:29:55,514 was in Indonesia or some other place doing it. 556 00:29:55,602 --> 00:29:56,114 Blair: Yes. 557 00:29:56,242 --> 00:30:00,122 Martin: They put their terms and settings and what you could ask for and how quick they 558 00:30:00,146 --> 00:30:00,642 could do it. 559 00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:02,458 And I'm totally happy with that. 560 00:30:02,514 --> 00:30:04,334 Yes, I can do it myself. 561 00:30:04,502 --> 00:30:09,350 But now as an ending with like AI, I am now 562 00:30:09,390 --> 00:30:16,742 subscribed to service that is simple to use this chat, DBT and Dali and this image 563 00:30:16,806 --> 00:30:17,270 creator. 564 00:30:17,310 --> 00:30:20,398 So I'm really into this now to see what I 565 00:30:20,414 --> 00:30:27,454 could play around with like podcast artwork maybe for your blog post, doing image features 566 00:30:27,542 --> 00:30:31,090 image, a photo on a blog post and other things like that. 567 00:30:31,710 --> 00:30:37,294 Because if you don't have that skill or artistic, you know, it's hard. 568 00:30:37,462 --> 00:30:41,510 And that's in a way good because then you could find division of liber, but it's also 569 00:30:41,550 --> 00:30:41,726 good. 570 00:30:41,758 --> 00:30:43,310 But we could play around with it. 571 00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:44,614 Blair: Yeah, yeah. 572 00:30:44,742 --> 00:30:51,070 Martin: So and also to as you, we talked about music, you wanted to have up more upbeat. 573 00:30:51,230 --> 00:30:53,150 Yeah, we have like it very much. 574 00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:53,646 I like it. 575 00:30:53,678 --> 00:30:57,582 I'm really getting in the mood when I listen to the bumper and jingle and hopefully the 576 00:30:57,606 --> 00:30:58,630 listeners doing that also. 577 00:30:58,670 --> 00:31:01,724 But we are thinking of a new song there. 578 00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:07,956 And I will talk to Jim Johnson of J Tunes Productions if he opt for it. 579 00:31:07,988 --> 00:31:10,204 And then I want to add him to the split also. 580 00:31:10,252 --> 00:31:12,812 So every time somebody is listening with a new 581 00:31:12,836 --> 00:31:17,276 podcast app streaming satoshis or sending a booster gram, he will get a split and a cut 582 00:31:17,308 --> 00:31:18,252 off also. 583 00:31:18,396 --> 00:31:19,276 Blair: Yeah. Thats great. 584 00:31:19,348 --> 00:31:19,960 Yes. 585 00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:23,600 Martin: So thats for now, I think. 586 00:31:23,940 --> 00:31:26,018 Any ending note, Blaire? 587 00:31:26,104 --> 00:31:34,046 Blair: No. Everyone stay cool in this hot summer and enjoy the Olympics. 588 00:31:34,158 --> 00:31:38,414 And hopefully we'll have a guest on our next episode. 589 00:31:38,502 --> 00:31:43,102 Martin: Yeah. So with that, thank you very much, Blair, and talk to you soon again, thank 590 00:31:43,126 --> 00:31:43,630 you, Martin. 591 00:31:43,670 --> 00:31:44,310 Blair: Appreciate it. 592 00:31:44,350 --> 00:31:45,690 Martin: Bye bye bye. 593 00:31:52,460 --> 00:32:20,490 Blair: Satan rain.