If you enjoy listening to podcasts, you might have wondered what
Jon Clayton:goes on behind the scenes, especially if you're toying with launching a podcast
Jon Clayton:for your business or organization.
Jon Clayton:The short answer is a lot of unseen work, but what exactly
Jon Clayton:is involved in producing a show?
Jon Clayton:I've recently been working with CIAT to relaunch their where it's at
Jon Clayton:podcast, so I thought I'd pull back the curtain and give you a quick tour
Jon Clayton:of what went on behind the scenes of that project in this episode.
Jon Clayton:Of Architecture Business Club, the weekly podcast for small firm
Jon Clayton:founders who want to build their dream business in architecture and
Jon Clayton:enjoy more freedom, flexibility, and fulfillment in what they do.
Jon Clayton:I'm John Clayton, your host.
Jon Clayton:Having spent over 20 years working in architecture, I know how hard it can
Jon Clayton:be to explain your services so people truly understand and value what you do.
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Jon Clayton:Now let's go behind the scenes of the Where it's at Podcast.
Jon Clayton:Hey, thanks for joining me today.
Jon Clayton:I'm really excited about this episode because I have recently been working
Jon Clayton:with CIAT, that's the Chartered Institute of Architectural Technologists.
Jon Clayton:And we are gonna be talking about relaunching the Architectural Technology
Jon Clayton:podcast, which is called Where it's at.
Jon Clayton:So what is where it's at?
Jon Clayton:So where it's at is the podcast that puts architectural technology in the spotlight.
Jon Clayton:And it's brought to you by CIAT.
Jon Clayton:They are the lead qualifying body for architectural technology.
Jon Clayton:So why am I talking about this on Architecture Business Club?
Jon Clayton:Well, as I mentioned, I've recently been working with CIAT on their
Jon Clayton:show, and I'm proud to say that for.
Jon Clayton:The next year at least I'll be behind the scenes producing that show.
Jon Clayton:So I'm really excited about this and, uh, yeah, really looking forward
Jon Clayton:to seeing how that podcast develops over the course of the next year.
Jon Clayton:So first I thought I. I'd give you a little bit of background about
Jon Clayton:the show, uh, give you an idea of what type of content you can expect
Jon Clayton:on the, where it's at podcast.
Jon Clayton:So the podcast brings together and celebrates the people
Jon Clayton:and projects that are driving architectural technology forward.
Jon Clayton:So the episodes are mainly interview-based and feature
Jon Clayton:aspiring and practicing architecture technologists and thought leaders who
Jon Clayton:are shaping the future of the sector.
Jon Clayton:Now I know what you might be thinking.
Jon Clayton:Hang on a minute, John.
Jon Clayton:I'm not an architecture technologist.
Jon Clayton:I'm an architect or a building surveyor or any other person that
Jon Clayton:happens to be listening to this show.
Jon Clayton:Th that show where it's at is not just for architectural technologists.
Jon Clayton:The show's aim is to educate everybody that architectural technology exists,
Jon Clayton:so that whilst that podcast will be featuring conversations with architectural
Jon Clayton:technologists, it's certainly is not just for architectural technologists.
Jon Clayton:So.
Jon Clayton:If you work in the built environment or if you're interested in a career that
Jon Clayton:combines design and technology, then you are also going to enjoy the show.
Jon Clayton:So it's definitely worth checking it out.
Jon Clayton:Even if you're not an architectural technologist, I. So just some
Jon Clayton:of the information you need.
Jon Clayton:So like episodes when they're gonna be released, new episodes are going
Jon Clayton:to be released on the last Friday of every month at 6:00 AM UK time
Jon Clayton:with the occasional bonus episode.
Jon Clayton:And we're aiming for each episode to be around 30 minutes long, so not too long.
Jon Clayton:And.
Jon Clayton:Mainly those episodes are going to feature interviews with, as I mentioned before,
Jon Clayton:aspiring and practicing architecture technologists and also thought leaders
Jon Clayton:who are shaping the future of the sector.
Jon Clayton:And you can find the show on everywhere where you listen to podcasts.
Jon Clayton:So you can listen and subscribe on Spotify, apple, or
Jon Clayton:wherever you get your podcast.
Jon Clayton:And I've also dropped a link to the Where it's at podcast in the show notes.
Jon Clayton:Right.
Jon Clayton:Okay.
Jon Clayton:So enough about that.
Jon Clayton:What actually went into relaunching that podcast?
Jon Clayton:What work has been going on behind the scenes that you don't really hear about?
Jon Clayton:As I mentioned in the intro, it was a, it is a lot of work.
Jon Clayton:It's a lot of work putting a podcast together.
Jon Clayton:Even in this case, this was a an existing podcast that we were relaunching.
Jon Clayton:So that work began with a podcast strategy meeting with
Jon Clayton:CIAT and we, we covered a lot.
Jon Clayton:We've been, I've been working really closely with the team at CIAT and
Jon Clayton:some of the things that we had to consider were setting a relaunch date.
Jon Clayton:Uh, we had to agree.
Jon Clayton:The main objectives for the show so that we understood what
Jon Clayton:success was going to look like.
Jon Clayton:We discussed lots of ideas for the show, so looking at ideas for future
Jon Clayton:topics, future guests, and re-looked at the, the format of the show and.
Jon Clayton:Always keep in front of mind who the show is actually for, you know, so that
Jon Clayton:when we're thinking about what content, what episodes are going to be produced,
Jon Clayton:that we've got our audience in mind.
Jon Clayton:And the same goes for architecture Business Club.
Jon Clayton:That is something that, uh, that I do on a, on a regular basis.
Jon Clayton:We also developed a new tagline for the show, updated the podcast description.
Jon Clayton:So that's like the text description that appears in places like
Jon Clayton:Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Jon Clayton:Uh, we also re-looked at the categories.
Jon Clayton:So the categories that the podcast was appearing in.
Jon Clayton:Um, we re-looked at that and adjusted the categories to better
Jon Clayton:suit the nature of the show.
Jon Clayton:Um, practical things like agreeing the.
Jon Clayton:The timetable for publishing.
Jon Clayton:So agreeing publishing times and episode frequency.
Jon Clayton:And we also developed some new ideas for show notable.
Jon Clayton:So these are like unique elements that help make the
Jon Clayton:show more memorable and unique.
Jon Clayton:So, um.
Jon Clayton:I mean, in the case of architecture Business Club, one of the things
Jon Clayton:that we do on the guest interviews is we, we always ask a question
Jon Clayton:about travel and favorite places.
Jon Clayton:Um, That's partly because of my own passion for travel and, and discovering
Jon Clayton:new places and also with a, well, a loose connection to architecture
Jon Clayton:as well with it being about place.
Jon Clayton:Uh, so that's one of the show notables that we have on this show.
Jon Clayton:And we've been working with CIAT to develop some show notables for
Jon Clayton:the, where it's at podcast too.
Jon Clayton:Also we agreed what calls to action would feature in each episode.
Jon Clayton:So, you know the little sections we have in this show, um, we have the intro.
Jon Clayton:There's often a little section in the middle, uh, and then
Jon Clayton:the end, we've got the outro.
Jon Clayton:These are sometimes called the pre-roll, mid-roll and
Jon Clayton:post-roll sections of a podcast.
Jon Clayton:So we had a discussion about, well, well, what do we want people to do
Jon Clayton:after they've listened to this show?
Jon Clayton:So all of that, um, there's a lot of thought and consideration
Jon Clayton:that goes into all of those little elements of each episode.
Jon Clayton:We also updated the audio branding.
Jon Clayton:The visual branding was already predefined.
Jon Clayton:So they already had, um, visual brands that they're happy with.
Jon Clayton:So that's things like colors and fonts and the cover art for the podcast.
Jon Clayton:So the little graphic that you see when you go to Spotify
Jon Clayton:or Apple to go and listen.
Jon Clayton:Uh, but we did refresh and update the audio branding.
Jon Clayton:So this is considering things like, well.
Jon Clayton:Who's doing the voiceovers of the, the sections of the show, like the
Jon Clayton:intros and outros, and what music are we going to use and are we going to
Jon Clayton:use any sound effects in the show?
Jon Clayton:So how, what's the show gonna sound like?
Jon Clayton:Is it gonna sound like a radio show?
Jon Clayton:Is it gonna sound like a podcast?
Jon Clayton:So there's a lot of thought that goes into that too.
Jon Clayton:We then wrote scripts for CIAT.
Jon Clayton:So, um, worked with them on intro and outro and midroll scripts, and
Jon Clayton:we designed the flow of each episode.
Jon Clayton:So we mapped out.
Jon Clayton:All the different little sections of each episode of the show, what order,
Jon Clayton:all of those different sections.
Jon Clayton:Um, we're going to go in where show notables might feature where those
Jon Clayton:call to actions are going to feature.
Jon Clayton:That's all mapped out.
Jon Clayton:Bit like the same as designing a building.
Jon Clayton:Like, you know, we have the building plans for the, the building design.
Jon Clayton:These are the plans that we have for the podcast to, uh, make sure that it all goes
Jon Clayton:together, uh, seamlessly when we come to actually build the episodes in the edit.
Jon Clayton:I. Also create templates.
Jon Clayton:So we have a, a show notes template that we put together that we are
Jon Clayton:going to reuse for each episode.
Jon Clayton:And we made decisions on the recordings, so the recording method, how we're going
Jon Clayton:to, to capture the voice recordings of the guests and agreed on our recording kit.
Jon Clayton:So, um, agreed what mics and headphones and things that we were going to use to.
Jon Clayton:Sent to our guests so that they could record their voiceovers for each episode.
Jon Clayton:So there was a lot of thought that went into that um, the podcast
Jon Clayton:and updating that strategy.
Jon Clayton:And following that, I put together a follow-up podcast strategy report,
Jon Clayton:which was shared as a collaborative document so that the team at CIAT
Jon Clayton:and myself could work on that together to finalize any items and.
Jon Clayton:Make any decisions that we hadn't been able to make in
Jon Clayton:that initial strategy meeting.
Jon Clayton:I then set up a shared podcast planner spreadsheet that we are going to be using
Jon Clayton:to keep track of the episode planning.
Jon Clayton:And we also set up the show on a new podcast hosting platform.
Jon Clayton:So we had to set up a redirect from the original podcast host of the new
Jon Clayton:hosting platform podcast host is where?
Jon Clayton:Where the episodes are stored in the cloud and that's where they get distributed
Jon Clayton:from to all of the different platforms like Spotify and Apple and Amazon Music.
Jon Clayton:We also set up a new podcast webpage and I think at some point that probably will
Jon Clayton:get integrated into CIT Zone website, but we have a separate webpage specifically
Jon Clayton:for the podcast at the moment.
Jon Clayton:And.
Jon Clayton:We also wrote and recorded with CITA podcast trailer for the show.
Jon Clayton:That's something that's really important to have a trailer
Jon Clayton:to help promote your podcast.
Jon Clayton:And then we got the the next episode, which is coming out very,
Jon Clayton:very soon, on the 30th of May.
Jon Clayton:I edited that episode, and that episode was from a live recording that
Jon Clayton:was recorded at Future Build 2025.
Jon Clayton:So that kind of gives you a bit of a quick run through of all of the
Jon Clayton:different tasks, the work that has been involved in relaunching a show.
Jon Clayton:So if you are thinking of launching your own podcast or if your business or
Jon Clayton:organization is thinking of launching one.
Jon Clayton:There's gonna be some similarity there in, in terms of the to-do list and the items
Jon Clayton:that need to be done for launching a show.
Jon Clayton:It's very similar to the work we've done there.
Jon Clayton:There's actually a few extra tasks that you'll need to do if it's brand new.
Jon Clayton:Uh, if it's a brand new show that you're launching but that gives you a
Jon Clayton:really good flavor of what is likely to be involved in launching your show.
Jon Clayton:So, back to the where it's at podcast, what is that next episode all about?
Jon Clayton:And, and why should you bother tuning in?
Jon Clayton:So the episode that's dropping tomorrow if you're listening to this episode on
Jon Clayton:the day of release, the Where it's at podcast episode is coming out tomorrow,
Jon Clayton:which will be the 30th of May 2025.
Jon Clayton:If you're listening after that date, you should just be able to go and find that
Jon Clayton:episode or whatever the latest episode is, wherever you find your podcast.
Jon Clayton:That episode is called The Healing Power of Buildings, and it explores
Jon Clayton:the relationship between architectural technology and health features, guest
Jon Clayton:speakers and Vanna from Healing Buildings, and Richard Olston from Olston and.
Jon Clayton:Donnelly Architecture.
Jon Clayton:Now, Anne previously featured on episode 12 of this podcast where she talked about
Jon Clayton:returning to practice after a long break.
Jon Clayton:And Richard, I know through his practice, which is based in
Jon Clayton:Lancaster where I used to live.
Jon Clayton:And Anne and Richard are discussing how design can improve wellbeing, and they
Jon Clayton:talk about strategies for a healthier built environment and the importance of
Jon Clayton:education to drive the industry forward.
Jon Clayton:Uh, so yeah, please.
Jon Clayton:If that sounds interesting, please go and check it out.
Jon Clayton:That episode was recorded live at Future Build 2025, and as I mentioned, it's
Jon Clayton:going to be released at 6:00 AM UK time on Friday the 30th of May, 2025.
Jon Clayton:So the editing of that episode.
Jon Clayton:So would you like to hear a little bit about what we're into the edit?
Jon Clayton:I'm sure you do.
Jon Clayton:So I'm gonna share a little bit about editing the episode.
Jon Clayton:So it was the first time that I had edited a podcast episode
Jon Clayton:from a live event recording.
Jon Clayton:So normally, normally I'm present for recordings, so I'm either, um, doing
Jon Clayton:a remote recording with my own guests or, uh, can in person studio setting.
Jon Clayton:This is the first time that I've had to put an episode together
Jon Clayton:from a live recording, from another event that I hadn't attended.
Jon Clayton:So I was a little bit concerned about how it was gonna go and the
Jon Clayton:edit did present a few challenges.
Jon Clayton:I was concerned about the sound quality and how I was going to edit this raw live
Jon Clayton:recording into a polished podcast episode.
Jon Clayton:Well, as it happened, I needn't have worried I was able to apply noise
Jon Clayton:reduction to the recording to improve the sound quality and actually.
Jon Clayton:Minimal edits were needed.
Jon Clayton:There was just a few cuts to take out one or two lines that just wouldn't
Jon Clayton:make sense in a podcast episode.
Jon Clayton:But obviously it made sense to the audience, but it was a little bit
Jon Clayton:of audience interaction that it, it just really wouldn't have made sense.
Jon Clayton:In a podcast episode, there was the occasional filler words that was cut
Jon Clayton:out, not all of the filler words because, I dunno if you ever listened to any
Jon Clayton:other podcast episodes where it can sound a bit unnatural and sometimes
Jon Clayton:they can be so heavily edited that there can be sort of jumps in the audio as
Jon Clayton:well, which sounds a bit distracting.
Jon Clayton:So we've edited out some of those ums and ahs, but not all of them.
Jon Clayton:I. Uh, so it still sounds like a natural conversation.
Jon Clayton:I then hosted a remote recording session with Adam from CIAT, who was doing
Jon Clayton:the voiceover work for their show, and we recorded the, uh, new intros and
Jon Clayton:outros, mid-roll sections, all of that.
Jon Clayton:And then I stitched those recorded segments into the main episode.
Jon Clayton:So that main recording from the, the talk at future build, uh, that Ann
Jon Clayton:and Richard did, we've stitched in.
Jon Clayton:Adam's voice for the intros and outros.
Jon Clayton:And we've also added in the new theme music that we've chosen together.
Jon Clayton:And this was a track that had a more, how can I put it, a more
Jon Clayton:technology based sound to better reflect the themes of the show.
Jon Clayton:So I'm thinking more kind of tomorrow's world, because this is
Jon Clayton:really right where architecture meets technology, uh, on that show.
Jon Clayton:And was there anything else that I did?
Jon Clayton:There was, there was a lot of other work too.
Jon Clayton:I created a whole batch of promotional assets, including show
Jon Clayton:notes for the episode, social media, captions, hashtags, and audiograms.
Jon Clayton:And for future episodes, we'll also be producing short video clips.
Jon Clayton:So.
Jon Clayton:As you can tell, there is a lot of work to produce and promote,
Jon Clayton:even just one podcast episode.
Jon Clayton:So I really have to tip my hat to any podcast podcasters out there,
Jon Clayton:independent podcasters in particularly where you're producing your own shows
Jon Clayton:and you know, those guys in those podcast production companies that are
Jon Clayton:behind the scenes, there is an awful lot of work that goes into producing
Jon Clayton:shows like this and like where it's at.
Jon Clayton:So a shout out to everybody that is sticking with podcasting.
Jon Clayton:So.
Jon Clayton:Round things up.
Jon Clayton:If you like the sound of where it's at, then please, please, please click the
Jon Clayton:link in the show notes to subscribe today.
Jon Clayton:Go and give the show a chance.
Jon Clayton:We have got some interesting and exciting episodes coming up throughout the course
Jon Clayton:of the year, so go and subscribe today so you don't miss any of those episodes.
Jon Clayton:And I hope you've enjoyed this behind the scenes episode.
Jon Clayton:I just wanted to give you.
Jon Clayton:A little glimpse into what actually goes on behind the
Jon Clayton:scenes of producing a podcast.
Jon Clayton:Podcasting is a lot of fun, but it is also a lot of work.
Jon Clayton:But don't let that put you off getting into podcasting or launching
Jon Clayton:your own show because help is closer to hand than you think.
Jon Clayton:If you'd like to explore how podcasting could benefit your business or
Jon Clayton:organization, email me at John, that's JO n@architecturebusinessclub.com,
Jon Clayton:or click the link in the show notes to book a no obligation Chat with me.
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