Amazon appears to be going aggressively after Shein and Temu on price.
Speaker AAccording to Reuters, by way of the information, Amazon is imposing severe price caps on what merchants can charge for their products on a new low cost storefront that the E commerce giant is preparing to launch.
Speaker AThe company's price limits include $8 for jewelry, $13 for guitars, and this one blows my mind, $20 for sofas.
Speaker ANot sure what that sofa is made out of.
Speaker BThat's a great point.
Speaker AThe croissant lamp sofa that we were talking about a few weeks ago on the lightning round.
Speaker AOkay, but anyway, according to the information's report, which cited messages from Amazon to merchants and included a list of 700 items, Amazon plans to ship orders to US customers directly from a facility in Guangdong, China.
Speaker ADid I say that right?
Speaker AGuangdong?
Speaker BYeah, you did.
Speaker BYou nailed it.
Speaker AOkay, all right.
Speaker BGood enough is what I'd say.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AAdding that it was also planning to charge sellers lower fulfillment fees for items sold through the new storefront.
Speaker AChris, why do you think Amazon is getting so aggressive on price against Temu and Shein?
Speaker BOoh, starting off hot and all right.
Speaker AI am, I think, yeah, I think.
Speaker BBecause they're eating, I think they're eating into Amazon's business.
Speaker BThey, I mean, they have to be.
Speaker BYou've seen the, all the recent numbers bear that out.
Speaker BYou see the number of app downloads in the US like, the number of them is insane.
Speaker BAmazon's online store sales rose just 5% in the last quarter, which slowed down from a 7% increase in the previous quarter.
Speaker BSo in the first quarter of this year.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BBut you know, more importantly, I think the other piece of this is it's actually a strategic assault on Amazon's E commerce turf.
Speaker BLike Amazon has been, has been known as the low price leader.
Speaker BAnd like we've talked about on the show, consumers gravitate to the, to the offering that gives them the lowest price, which Temu and Sheen are now effectively doing.
Speaker BSo then I have to ask the question for me is are the implications of this.
Speaker BThe question I have to ask then, Anne, is can they actually win this pricing war in this way?
Speaker BI don't know that they can at this point because she and Timu are pretty entrenched with consumers.
Speaker BAmazon's just trying to start up this new, you know, kind of format in this vein or this storefront in this vein.
Speaker BSo I don't know that they're going to make, make a lot of inroads here.
Speaker BI think, I think that this part of the business might be lost forever, especially until we know how regulation is going to continue to impact this, this direct to factory way of doing E commerce as well.
Speaker BBut what do you think?
Speaker AWell Chris, but I guess my question too is like I assume we're talking the same manufacturers.
Speaker AI mean from my experience ordering, I would assume she and like yeah, are that are, is Amazon asking these manufacturers to make further concessions for Amazon than they are for Temu and Shein or is this like this is just standard across the board?
Speaker ALike they're already doing this so it's going to be fine.
Speaker ALike that, that to me doesn't make sense.
Speaker ALike they've already, these factories already have these longstanding relationships with Sheen and Temu and who, you know, just because Amazon comes in, do they have the same clout that they might have in the US Market when we're talking about, you know, what their relationships are over in China.
Speaker ABut I disagree with you a little bit and I'm curious what you think about this.
Speaker BLet's get it going.
Speaker ASo I think this could be a massive opportunity for Amazon.
Speaker ALike he huge because I think if you look at the brands, I was even shocked by this.
Speaker ABut if you look at the brands that are most beloved by Gen Z again the generation that's holding the most buying power that any of any generation at this con existing age, Amazon is consistently ranked among their favorites and in some cases even in the top 10 of their favorite brands.
Speaker ASo I have to ask you Chris.
Speaker BIf you're ordering another question, I do.
Speaker AI have to ask you this question.
Speaker ASo if you're going to order, let's talk, let's say like shoe organizers for your closet or something, something like that.
Speaker AAre you more comfortable ordering that from Amazon as a US consumer?
Speaker AAre you more comfortable ordering that from Amazon or from Temu?
Speaker BIt's a good question.
Speaker BYeah, it's a, it's a really good question.
Speaker BSo I, that's what's tough for me on this.
Speaker BIt's, it depends on the user experience.
Speaker BCause I talked to the folks at temu for like 30, 45 minutes one day.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd they say while the direct to factory model is part of it, it's also the gamification and the user interface is also part of this.
Speaker ATrue.
Speaker BSo the Amazon experience as you're des describing it, operates and behaves differently.
Speaker BBut with that said, like could I as a young consumer be browsing Amazon and looking for storage organization solutions that are cheap?
Speaker BYes, I could.
Speaker BSo maybe they get some of this business, you know, that they've been losing to Temu and shein but, but I don't know that they can ever get the total amount.
Speaker BI don't know that they can ever just like shut them out of the market at this point.
Speaker BI think that that's the point I'm trying to make here is like, yeah, true.
Speaker BThey, they.
Speaker BIt just seems like this is a hard game for Amazon to stand up and play entirely new because it, it's a different way of doing E commerce.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker AIt totally is.
Speaker ABut, but I, but answer the question.
Speaker AWho would you rather order from, Amazon or team?
Speaker AAs a US consumer, probably Amazon.
Speaker BYeah, I think, I think that I would concede to you, I would agree.
Speaker AIf, if all things are equal, like price is comparable.
Speaker AYou, I mean everything else, the quality of the product, it looks the same, the images are the same.
Speaker AI would also go with Amazon and my hunch is there's a lot of people in the US that would also go to Amazon before ordering something from Temu or from Shein if it's the same thing.
Speaker ASo you make a great point.
Speaker AI think about making sure that the gamification and the shopping experience is there, but I think if they can do it, there's a huge opportunity in the US for them.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe other part about this though you got me think about is seller ratings are also really important on Amazon and so Amazon's always very transparent of that.
Speaker BSo like, if customers start to get dissatisfied with that, Amazon's going to probably showcase that a little bit more too.
Speaker BSo, so yeah, this is a really great conversation.
Speaker BI have no idea which way it's going to play, but you can tell that Amazon is definitely, definitely focused on trying to figure this out.