it is truly pointless, everyone else has burnt out, you are not special.
Speaker:My manager told me we only thought we were too busy.
Speaker:If I go off sick, my colleagues will have to work double.
Speaker:Now, if any of that sounds familiar, yep, that's direct quotes from the
Speaker:survey that we sent out recently.
Speaker:Finding out why doctors and healthcare professionals don't seek
Speaker:help when they're nearing burnout.
Speaker:Now in the summer last year, I jumped out of bed and immediately fell over.
Speaker:I couldn't weight bear on either of my ankles.
Speaker:The day before I'd been doing a charity walk.
Speaker:It was only 14 miles, but it was in Norfolk, and some of that walk included
Speaker:a three mile stretch on a shingle beach.
Speaker:When I got home, my ankles had swollen up, and the next morning I just
Speaker:couldn't put any weight on them at all.
Speaker:Now, I've had this all my life.
Speaker:My mum has the same thing with her ankles.
Speaker:For some reason, when I'm on my feet all day, when I've walked up
Speaker:or down a mountain, or particularly on uneven ground, I will be
Speaker:hobbling for the next few days.
Speaker:I've seen physios about it.
Speaker:I've seen all sorts of different people about it.
Speaker:No one's had any answers for me.
Speaker:But after I'd fallen over, I thought, well, this is really serious.
Speaker:And I was seeing a physio at the time for my back and I went to him and I
Speaker:said, look at these photos of my ankles.
Speaker:They're actually more swollen than when I broke them ice skating the other year.
Speaker:He took one look and said, right, I'm sending you to a rheumatologist.
Speaker:So off I trot to see a sports medicine specialist who you know, examined me.
Speaker:I showed him the photos and he said to me, well, you know what?
Speaker:At your age it's probably because you're just not in shape.
Speaker:It was my fault.
Speaker:I, I wasn't in shape.
Speaker:I hadn't looked after my body enough and that was the reason for it.
Speaker:And that's pretty much what I've been told the whole of my life.
Speaker:However, I knew that I'd been doing a lot of exercise.
Speaker:I'd been lifting some weights.
Speaker:Uh, I regularly cycled everywhere.
Speaker:I played two or three hours of tennis a week.
Speaker:Was it really 'cause I wasn't in shape?
Speaker:But you know what?
Speaker:I believed him Because I couldn't see any other explanation and I couldn't see
Speaker:what on earth could be done about this.
Speaker:Nobody seemed to have any answers for me that actually helped.
Speaker:At the end of the consultation, he said, well, you know what?
Speaker:In order to be certain, we'll just send you for an MRI of your ankles.
Speaker:And I thought, well, okay, fine, i'll go for my MRI.
Speaker:A few months later went for my MR. I thought nothing more of
Speaker:it until I got a note from the clinic saying can you come back?
Speaker:We need to talk about your MRI.
Speaker:I went back to clinic and I was greeted by, Well, this is interesting.
Speaker:They have found that I have a congenital problem in both of my ankles where two
Speaker:of my bones are partially fused, which means I don't have enough movement.
Speaker:There was significant bony edema on one side, and that was
Speaker:the cause of all the trouble.
Speaker:But every time I sought help, I was told, Hmm, probably not much we can do,
Speaker:or it's probably your fault, or been given very, very wishy-washy advice,
Speaker:and I had just decided it was pointless.
Speaker:Now knowing what's wrong, I can make adjustments to the way that I exercise.
Speaker:I can try and help things.
Speaker:I can take some medication that will reduce the swelling
Speaker:when I know it's gonna happen.
Speaker:There are things I can do.
Speaker:I can't necessarily cure it, but I have a plan.
Speaker:I'm not stuck anymore.
Speaker:And the problem is, this is what I see us doing with our own stress, our own
Speaker:wellbeing, our own levels of burnout.
Speaker:We think we already know A, what's wrong, and B, what everyone
Speaker:else is gonna advise us to do.
Speaker:And often through past experience, we know that there's not a lot
Speaker:that anybody can do about it.
Speaker:Or at least we assume that, and then we think that asking
Speaker:for help is totally pointless.
Speaker:You see, people say that doctors don't ask for help because they're too proud.
Speaker:They don't like admitting they're weak or they can't cope.
Speaker:And yes, there is an element to that.
Speaker:These stories we've been brainwashed into thinking that we've always got to
Speaker:be the strong one, that we're got this particular superhero quality which means
Speaker:we can keep going longer than most people.
Speaker:But actually, that's not what I've experienced In talking to many,
Speaker:many people, and the survey that we sent out told a sharper truth.
Speaker:People were saying it would've felt pointless as the job would've still
Speaker:been the same when I returned.
Speaker:Someone even said, I called the staff psychology service.
Speaker:The message was two years out of date, and they said they wouldn't
Speaker:be in touch, so why bother?
Speaker:So we either know it's gonna be pointless or we've tried
Speaker:before and it was pointless.
Speaker:That's futility, when the doors you try when they're not opening, you
Speaker:eventually stop knocking on them.
Speaker:And then it gets worse.
Speaker:When we do ask for help, it's often minimized or we are gaslit
Speaker:by ourselves or by others.
Speaker:People told us in the survey, my manager told me we only thought we were too busy,
Speaker:and I was told the burnout didn't exist.
Speaker:Unbelievable right?
Speaker:And sometimes the external gaslighting that we have becomes internal gaslighting.
Speaker:We tell ourselves, well, everyone else is coping, so why can't I?
Speaker:And then we tell ourselves, well, you can't stop.
Speaker:'cause if you stop, who is going to do the work?
Speaker:This is a You Are Not a Frog quick dip, a tiny taster of the kinds of things we
Speaker:talk about on our full podcast episodes.
Speaker:I've chosen today's topic to give you a helpful boost in the time it
Speaker:takes to have a cup of tea so you can return to whatever else you're
Speaker:up to feeling energized and inspired.
Speaker:For more tools, tips, and insights to help you thrive at work, don't
Speaker:forget to subscribe to You Are Not a Frog wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker:So let's just do a quick reality check.
Speaker:If you are in a place where you can do this, I want you to stop.
Speaker:I want you to put your hand over your heart to make you feel safe.
Speaker:If you're driving, obviously don't do that.
Speaker:Uh, but just check in with these questions.
Speaker:My workload today is, how bad is it?
Speaker:What's it like?
Speaker:My control over it is what?
Speaker:How much control do you have?
Speaker:And right now my body feels how?
Speaker:What do you feel like in your body?
Speaker:Now you can say to yourself, given those facts, it makes
Speaker:total sense that I feel this way.
Speaker:Because the first step in doing anything is facing reality and naming it.
Speaker:Naming it is incredibly helpful and it's one way that we can lower the
Speaker:temperature in the pan that we're in.
Speaker:Because here's the trap that we all face, and I think you know it by now.
Speaker:It's literally the name of this podcast.
Speaker:We are like that boiling frog in a pan.
Speaker:The workload builds up slowly and you don't notice it, the extra
Speaker:long day is just becoming the norm.
Speaker:But here's the extra kicker.
Speaker:When you've got the other frogs in the pan with you and everybody's
Speaker:overheating, you look around and you just think, oh gosh, well, it's
Speaker:not just me, so this must be normal.
Speaker:Oh, or is it normal?
Speaker:Why aren't they jumping out?
Speaker:Why aren't they turning down the heat?
Speaker:And what's wrong with me?
Speaker:And we acclimatized with this rising temperature until we have
Speaker:no idea what's normal anymore.
Speaker:We've got no idea what's safe or manageable for us anymore.
Speaker:And this is exactly what people told us in the survey.
Speaker:Everybody's in the same position.
Speaker:Patients still need care, or it is expected to keep going, especially.
Speaker:In senior roles.
Speaker:So then we've got this frog soup of futility, of gaslighting, and then
Speaker:of normalization, and as a result, everyone keeps quiet, there is
Speaker:silence, and all we end up doing, it's just going, yeah, everyone's
Speaker:burning out, but it's pointless.
Speaker:What's the point?
Speaker:I've tried, I've said this and we've had comments on Facebook saying,
Speaker:yeah, I reported it, nothing was done.
Speaker:Yeah, no wonder you are feeling like this.
Speaker:No wonder we feel it's pointless and futile.
Speaker:And what's even worse is that asking for help actually makes you feel worse.
Speaker:So a lot of you told us in the survey that you didn't seek help 'cause you
Speaker:knew you wouldn't be listened to.
Speaker:You feared being seen as a failure.
Speaker:and someone was previously told, well, everybody's struggling.
Speaker:And it was implied that they were the problem.
Speaker:So when help is minimized or reframed as your personal flaw, you don't just feel
Speaker:tired, you start to doubt your reality, and that is exactly what gaslighting is,
Speaker:whether it's a system doing it, whether it's a manager or a person doing it, or
Speaker:whether it's you doing it to yourself 'cause of what you can see around you.
Speaker:Uh, I've experienced this myself.
Speaker:When I was really struggling as a GP.
Speaker:I went to a family member who was also a GP, and I was told Rachel, it's such a
Speaker:privilege to be a GP, you know, implying that I shouldn't be moaning because I
Speaker:was in a very, very privileged position and I was just being really unreasonable.
Speaker:It felt completely undermining and didn't acknowledge the issues I was having.
Speaker:'Cause yes, it is a privilege and I was really struggling.
Speaker:The two do not cancel each other out just as, just 'cause
Speaker:everyone else is struggling.
Speaker:It doesn't mean that you are not struggling.
Speaker:That doesn't cancel out either.
Speaker:Two wrongs do not make it right.
Speaker:And then beyond futility and gaslighting, our survey highlighted even more
Speaker:reasons why doctors stay silent.
Speaker:This over responsibility and guilt, which we talked about all the time.
Speaker:When you're not a frog, you know this, if I go off sick, my
Speaker:colleagues will have to work double.
Speaker:And that, that's a really difficult thing to put onto people and and it
Speaker:is a reality and yes, that happens.
Speaker:We fear the consequences.
Speaker:Several people said they feared it being on their records, being brought
Speaker:up in their appraisal, affecting their reputation, being labeled a trainee in
Speaker:difficulty, or even worrying about having something like that on their record.
Speaker:For insurance reasons.
Speaker:We compare ourselves to other people.
Speaker:You know, everyone else is coping.
Speaker:What's wrong with me?
Speaker:That makes us feel immense amounts of shame.
Speaker:There's the toxic culture, you know, of bullying, patronizing responses
Speaker:with almost zero psychological safety when we do raise things.
Speaker:There's also that thing about, I've just got no time to even sit
Speaker:and think, let alone seek help, and where would I go anyway?
Speaker:People say, well, I'm too busy to stop, who do I even tell?
Speaker:Somebody said, well, I'm a GP partner, so who would I even speak to?
Speaker:I'm my own employer essentially.
Speaker:There's financial implications.
Speaker:You know, I might be a locum if I don't work.
Speaker:I don't get paid.
Speaker:And then there's this feeling of helplessness within the system.
Speaker:There's long term vacancy freezes, rotas are all over the place.
Speaker:There's these wellbeing tick boxes that just don't help anybody at all, and it
Speaker:just makes us feel helpless and angry.
Speaker:So what happens is that it's this unspoken truth that everybody knows
Speaker:that doctors and other healthcare professionals are burning out.
Speaker:It's been proven in studies, and as I shared recently, one survey in a
Speaker:trust said that up to 50% of their doctors were working in burnout.
Speaker:But we keep silent, we don't mention it, and we keep borrowing performance
Speaker:from the rest of our lives in order to keep up our performance in work.
Speaker:But eventually our performance starts going down.
Speaker:We start making mistakes.
Speaker:We get really edgy.
Speaker:We get numb.
Speaker:We can't recover as well on holidays or or rest times.
Speaker:And lots of you in the survey said, you know, I feel exhausted.
Speaker:I'm hopeless about the prospect of change.
Speaker:I resigned.
Speaker:I jumped out the pan.
Speaker:Someone else said, yeah, I'm retiring earlier than I planned.
Speaker:And you know what?
Speaker:This isn't you being weak.
Speaker:It's a really rational response to impossible conditions.
Speaker:And sometimes when people say, you know, it's okay not to be okay, sometimes I
Speaker:would say, it's not okay to be okay.
Speaker:If you are working in conditions like that and you are totally fine about it,
Speaker:then what's going on with you, right?
Speaker:Is there something deeper that has just been silenced
Speaker:that's not able to speak out?
Speaker:And then because we feel so helpless, we just become very angry about other
Speaker:areas, about the political situation or, or management, you know, things
Speaker:that are totally outside of our control.
Speaker:'Cause that's sort of safe to get angry about.
Speaker:So, so how do we break this sort of futility of asking
Speaker:for help and seeking help?
Speaker:Well, it's not with platitudes like, oh, put your own oxygen mask on first, or
Speaker:these, these thought limiting cliches.
Speaker:Yeah, they're true, but they're not necessarily helpful for us,
Speaker:particularly when we've tried putting our own oxygen mask on and we've
Speaker:been told we are weak for needing to.
Speaker:No,, we need small things that we can control.
Speaker:In our Shapes toolkit, we talk about the zone of power, which for me is the
Speaker:most powerful tool I have ever used.
Speaker:It's simply working out what's in your control and what's outside your
Speaker:control, because we can't do anything that is outside our control, but we
Speaker:can do a lot that's inside our control.
Speaker:Some of it is scary and it feels like we can't do it, but it's
Speaker:the only place that we can start.
Speaker:So think of what you might be in control of.
Speaker:Here's three small suggestions.
Speaker:Maybe think about one of these that you could do this week.
Speaker:Maybe you could drop one low value task this week.
Speaker:Just one.
Speaker:One thing that's not really having much of an impact.
Speaker:Could you protect one small pocket of rest?
Speaker:Maybe take one lunch break or one evening where you don't stay late.
Speaker:And maybe you can have one honest conversation with somebody that's talking
Speaker:about workload and capacity and the risk.
Speaker:Now, of course these little acts, they're not gonna fix everything.
Speaker:They're not gonna fix the system, but they will break this feeling of
Speaker:futility, this feeling of pointlessness and helplessness, and will help you
Speaker:start to test out what could be.
Speaker:And there are other things that you could try.
Speaker:You could flag stuff up, you could ask for help even if you've done it
Speaker:before and it was useless, and here are some scripts that you could use
Speaker:which might actually be more effective.
Speaker:So if you've got a, a team lead or a manager, you could say to them, well,
Speaker:I'm flagging a capacity risk issue.
Speaker:It's not a motivation issue.
Speaker:To stay clinically safe, I propose.
Speaker:X, Y, or Z, or you could say one subtraction or one thing that would
Speaker:protect you, or one way of supporting.
Speaker:Could we agree these and review them in 30 days?
Speaker:That might be one thing.
Speaker:And just a side note, as a sort of manager leader myself, when
Speaker:people come to me saying they're overscheduled and they're feeling
Speaker:quite stressed, I care deeply about it, but often I don't have the answers.
Speaker:And if someone actually is able to suggest something that would really help 'em,
Speaker:that's really helpful for me, 'cause I can look at it and we can talk about
Speaker:it and we can work out the thing that's gonna be best for them and best for us.
Speaker:So coming up with the solutions yourself and suggesting it is wonderful, but
Speaker:don't come up with a solution that's completely unworkable, 'cause, 'cause
Speaker:nobody's able to say yes to that.
Speaker:You could go and see your own GP or your own occupational health department,
Speaker:and here you could say to them, I'm not just seeking coping tips alone.
Speaker:I'm not just seeking the advice of take time off.
Speaker:Please help me to document the impact that this is having on me and my function.
Speaker:And agree some concrete things that we can do at work to help.
Speaker:That gives them something to start with perhaps.
Speaker:And then there are always those other sort of boundary sitting conversations
Speaker:that we talked about before.
Speaker:And I've done a podcast recently about a boundaried yes.
Speaker:So check that one out.
Speaker:It's got many, many more ways of saying like a a, a sort of Yes maybe
Speaker:sort of No, rather than a direct No.
Speaker:So you could say something like, well, I can't do this by then without
Speaker:getting rid of this other thing, and that's actually gonna affect
Speaker:safety or standards or something.
Speaker:So I could do this other thing or that thing, or we can drop that one.
Speaker:What do you prefer?
Speaker:Giving them a choice, but just flagging 'em.
Speaker:I can't do all of it.
Speaker:What's the most important?
Speaker:And here's something that will probably help a lot, and that is planning a review
Speaker:date, putting it in your diary, and that turns this from a suggestion into a plan.
Speaker:Let's try something, let's review it.
Speaker:Let's see what helped.
Speaker:And it is really, really important if you are in burnout or you are worried in
Speaker:any way to see a qualified professional, do not assume that you know it all.
Speaker:Even if you are somebody, even if you are a GP that sees people who
Speaker:stress and burns out yourself.
Speaker:I assumed when I went to see the rheumatologist, there was
Speaker:nothing that they'd be able to do.
Speaker:But actually after that particular investigation, it
Speaker:flagged some stuff up for me.
Speaker:So don't assume you know.
Speaker:We have blinkers on when it comes to ourselves, how bad
Speaker:things are and our own health.
Speaker:I shared in an email and another podcast about the fact that I didn't
Speaker:realize how close to burnout I was a year or so ago when I was at my ADHD
Speaker:review and my psychiatrist started screening me for depression that
Speaker:was a real wake up call 'cause I had no idea how bad things had got.
Speaker:So please go see your own GP,, occupational health or
Speaker:practitioner health if you can.
Speaker:And if you don't have practitioner health, a really supportive manager, a good GP,
Speaker:or you are just gonna be waiting weeks.
Speaker:Here's what you could do as well, is name it.
Speaker:Name it with one person that you trust.
Speaker:And it doesn't even have to be someone from your own department.
Speaker:It could be somebody outside of work.
Speaker:Say something like capacity is just below safe.
Speaker:I, I need a tiny plan.
Speaker:Can you, can you help me work something out?
Speaker:Have a contract with a buddy.
Speaker:Meet up for 10 minutes a week for four weeks, and just decide what
Speaker:are each of you gonna subtract or protect or find support over?
Speaker:And in 30 days you review that and see what's changed.
Speaker:If there's a group of trusted colleagues you could join and,
Speaker:and, and talk to, then do that.
Speaker:Lots of trust, lots of people are actually running coaching groups
Speaker:now, and often nobody attends them.
Speaker:Go along.
Speaker:It's amazing how supportive they can be.
Speaker:You might wanna actually leave a paper trail, write it down, you
Speaker:know, write a a capacity note.
Speaker:Just say that this is how I'm feeling right now.
Speaker:I'm worried about my capacity.
Speaker:I'm worried about the risk if this goes on.
Speaker:Write it now.
Speaker:You can look at it later and it will validate stuff for later.
Speaker:And another thing is don't use your annual leave just to mask sickness.
Speaker:If you really are ill and sick, you need to go and get signed off
Speaker:sick, not just take a holiday and come back to exactly the same.
Speaker:And we all know that if you're going into exactly the same thing
Speaker:and nothing has changed, then you'll just burn out even quicker.
Speaker:And just remember that you need to keep yourself safe first.
Speaker:So look out for red flags and look out for red flags in your colleagues.
Speaker:If you're making a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes, you're
Speaker:feeling numb or really angry, you are feeling life is getting really
Speaker:pointless, you're relying on alcohol or drugs, any thoughts of self harm?
Speaker:Please, please go and see somebody.
Speaker:This is not about forcing you to do something.
Speaker:It's about looking after you, keeping you safe.
Speaker:Tell somebody, prioritize your urgent support.
Speaker:Because we've all got this choice when we feel that we're burning out, it feels
Speaker:like we don't, but we do have a choice.
Speaker:You can do nothing.
Speaker:You can just carry on.
Speaker:Your sleep will get worse as you get more anxious, the errors will creep in.
Speaker:The water will be heating up, you'll be borrowing your performance from everywhere
Speaker:else in your life until you suddenly crash out and your performance at work drops.
Speaker:Or you can act now.
Speaker:You could actually have a plan, get some tools.
Speaker:Start really small.
Speaker:Work out what you are in control of.
Speaker:Do one little thing, one pocket of rest, one honest conversation, one review date.
Speaker:The same thing, same job, but a slightly different trajectory.
Speaker:You are turning down the heat here.
Speaker:And if you want to go deeper with any of this, we have our Beat Stress and Thrive
Speaker:course which shares all the tools that we use to go from overwhelmed and near
Speaker:burning out back up to protecting your time, back up to peak performance zone.
Speaker:So do check that out.
Speaker:So you are not a frog.
Speaker:You are a healthcare professional or a professional in a high stress,
Speaker:high stakes job in hot water.
Speaker:Now feeling that hot water, it's not a failure, it is feedback.
Speaker:And the great thing about not being a frog is that you have things you can do.
Speaker:You can turn down the heat, you can choose to step out the pan if you want to.
Speaker:You could go to a different pan, a different environment, same job, different
Speaker:place, that often works brilliantly.
Speaker:You can choose if you wanna step out the panel together and go to
Speaker:a a completely different lake.
Speaker:Now, I know from bitter experience that the problem is when we do
Speaker:that, we take ourselves with us.
Speaker:So that's not always the answer, but it may be for some people.
Speaker:But you also can turn down the heat bit by bit by bit.
Speaker:Start with facing reality, and you can grab our free burnout
Speaker:self-assessment, PDF toolkit.
Speaker:Am I Stressed, Overwhelmed, or Burning Out?
Speaker:It's a really fast reality check with the next steps.
Speaker:Next, start with one small thing, tiny step that you can
Speaker:take, which you can control.
Speaker:And if you want more support, you can go deeper into these practical tools with our
Speaker:Beat Stress and Thrive course, or one of our Shapes Toolkit live training programs.
Speaker:But if you do nothing else today, just take one small step.
Speaker:Small acts will break the seeming futility.
Speaker:And don't assume that when you ask for help this time, it's
Speaker:gonna be like every other time.
Speaker:You are not weak.
Speaker:You are wise for facing reality, and there are things that you can do.
Speaker:And there is hope.
Speaker:There are ways of turning down the heat.
Speaker:Check out all our other episodes of you Are Not a Frog.
Speaker:Check out the toolkit.
Speaker:Get in touch if you need to and look after yourselves.
Speaker:Self-care, necessary care is not weakness, it's leadership.