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Hey folks, it's that time again and Pastor Rod is back. In Office slash studio with us. It is my retirement episode. It's after Pastor Mark has done such a great job. I feel free now to finally lay up the microphone. So thank you guys for a wonderful few years. These are the last few episodes I'm planning on doing Last few. That seems ambiguous. Because we have to finish the second one. We record two at a time. Okay. And I also have to coordinate with Pastor Mark too to make sure our schedule works. So you like three or more I think is the, alright, so I, it might be a couple more. Okay. A few more. Who knows? Two or three or four. Okay. Depend depending on the day and when I can get Pastor Mark to take over. I accept your re your resignation and I'm sure the audience does as well. So on, on their behalf. I'll just say accepted. Alright, dr. Mark, you heard it here? This is the first time he's hearing it. Actually, no. I texted him this morning, so I commended him on such a job. Well done. 'cause I listened to both the episodes. They were great. And I thought, you know what, this is the time. This is it. It's his turn in the saddle. That's right. I don't know, I think people might have a little bit of an, of a, of an opinion that they don't think you should step down. Steve Jobs once was asked why he doesn't do customer surveys. And he answered, it's our job not to give people what they want, but what they need. And he was so prescient because he invented the iPhone, the iPod. All these things that we now take for granted were the things that he said. Customers didn't ask for this. We gave it to them because we thought they really needed this. And I think they were proven wise. I don't know, man. I think all of our Android users out there they disagree with you just on, on principle based on that statement. They're wrong. We know that. And we still love them. No. Yeah, pastor Mark did great. But glad to have you back in, in the in the studio. Thank you. On the on the podcast. And we have a question that was written in by one of our our own, one of our, another young listener a young listener who happens to work in the office. With us. That's right. And so she actually emailed in and said she needs help understanding how God can have infinite characteristics and attributes, and also in her words, not infinite characteristics and attributes. Took me a minute to understand the line of questioning there, but then I think I got it. So she was arguing basically. How can God's patience, for example, and that's the one that she used, how can God's patience be exhausted, but his grace never be exhausted? How can we have God in her words here, have his patience run out? And so that, that's the question that she asked us. And how can we understand that if he is eternal, how can he have some attributes that are. Unending and others that are not unending, that seem to come to an end. For example, his patients. And I heard you answering the question live a second ago with her as you were answering there, and I think you and I are in agreement. So do you wanna kind of recap what you told her there? I really wanna hear how you said because I was, yeah, I was just talking to her a few minutes ago, but I would like to hear how you would talk about it, and then I'll chime in for whatever I think is helpful. Yeah. The thing that I think is good for us to remember is that the attributes of God, sometimes we clump descriptions about God into attributes of God. We clump things that we would say God is. A God of patience. And yet we wouldn't say that God's character is that he is patient. Patience is a manifestation of his character. It's a byproduct of other aspects of his character. God, when he identifies himself as a God of mercy. He says that to Moses in Exodus 34. He says the Lord, the God, A God merciful and slow to anger. So therein we see that his patience is connected to his mercy. And so his patience is not part of his character. The things that are part of his character can never change. They can't exhaust themselves. They can't run out. They can't stop. But the byproducts, the manifestations of his character the secondary impacts and effects of his character, those things are malleable. That his patience, for example, may run out with a people group. It doesn't mean that God is no longer merciful. It doesn't mean that he's no longer gracious. It just simply means that in his interaction with them the byproduct of his character, his patience. Had a set amount of time as he was interacting with those that are time bound creatures. And so he's revealing himself to us in a way that we can comprehend and understand. And so his patience is able to be exhausted, even though other attributes that are part of who he is, his character essential to his being. Those things can never be exhausted. It is important not to think about God as a human being. We can look at God and say it, it feels like this for me, so I wonder if it feels like that for God. And here that's not the case. We might lose patience with people. Little people that run around our homes perhaps, who put their hands on the walls and don't put things back where they're supposed to be. You might lose patience because you've had it. They're on your last nerve. You're, you lose control, so to speak. You're losing your ability to hold your patience and to love the centers in your home. That's not the way God works. His is not oh, I've lost control. You've sinned this many times and now I just can't stand it. I've gotta act in response to you. His is a measured. Clear response to his understanding of the situation, which of course is perfect. It is reality. He's not interpreting it as you and I would. His understanding of the situation is perfect. It's clear and his response is always just and right. That's the biggest difference. So when it comes to God exhausting his patience, it's not like he's a gas tank and it went down to the DRS and there's nothing left. It is his chosen response to the situation and saying, I've given you x many. Chances to respond and to repent, and because you've not taken them, I'm now going to act and just measure to what you have done. In fact, sometimes God will use numbers. I'm gonna repay you double for your sins, or I'm gonna give you a sevenfold response, which of course speaks to the completion, not to the number. But it shows that God is thoughtful in his response to our sin. It's not him flying off the handle. He's not losing control of his senses. God responds perfectly to the situation based on how he understands it, which again is perfect. Knowledgeable, exhaustive information about the situation. That's good. That's good. Hey, let's get into Jeremiah 46 through 40. Eight, which is our DBR for today. And we're finishing Jeremiah soon. We are, yeah. In fact, I think tomorrow's episode wraps it up, Jeremiah 46. Through 51. No, it's not tomorrow. It's not tomorrow. No. Sorry, I lied. 46 through 51 really is God's judgment on the nations, and he is going to deal with these nations in a just bullet list kind of format here. And he begins in chapter 46 with Egypt Chapter 47, Philistia, chapter 48, Moab in Egypt. He's talking about the defeat that Egypt is gonna suffer, which was at least in part, fulfilled during the Battle of Car Commission, which the first of first. Decisive blow was dealt to the Egyptians. The Babylonians are gonna be instrumental in this battle and in the conquering of the Egyptians there. Notice in verse 10, it says that this is the Lord's vengeance against Egypt. That this may be in response to the death of Josiah. Josiah was killed by Pharaoh, Nico and Pharaoh Nico's in view here in chapter. 46. So it's possible that God is exact in vengeance because of how good of a king Josiah was during that time. But Egypt is in the crosshairs initially here in chapter 46. And the judgment on them is gonna be thorough and very similar to what had befallen Israel, except that there was gonna be no remnants. And so that's what separates this. This is gonna distinguish Egypt and Philistia and Moab. God is not a god of covenant with any of these nations. He's uniquely a god of covenant with Israel and with Judah specifically there. That said, Egypt is still promised a future. And that's fascinating to me. And quite honestly, I, it puzzles me to know what that's gonna look like in the millennial kingdom. And during that time, there is gonna be a future where Israel is the focus of God's plan. But there's gonna be these other nations. And some of these nations that God has judged in the past are going to rise up again at that time during the millennial kingdom, they're gonna be some of the nations that are bringing their gifts. Into Jerusalem there to to offer them in Thanksgiving and praise to the reigning Christ as he's on the throne there. But yeah, Egypt is gonna suffer God's judgment initially here. Short term in the hands of Babylon and Nebuchadnezzar. What don't you say? Since Egypt is still existent today as a nation, as a people, that you could look at that and say yeah, clearly God answered, and then it's a way that makes sense to us today because there's still in existence today, there's still functioning as a nation. Do you understand it that way or do you understand it differently? No, I do, but there's other nations that aren't. For example, Assyria was taken out, and yet there's prophecies about Assyria coming back in the future. Moab, which we're about to read about in chapter 48, they're gonna come back in the future. And we're not looking at a place today. We can look at the territories today and say, this is where they were, but the people are not the same people. At least not in my understanding. That's not mine. That's interesting. Okay, cool. You would say the Moabite still exists? Under a different I'm, I guess I'm still talking about the Egyptians. Egyptians, I'm with you. Okay. I was okay. Yeah. The Egyptian misunderstood. You still nation. The future for Egypt is much more, I can understand that one easier than I can the future for Syrian and Moab, because God takes them out completely and yet he's still talking about the fact that they're gonna be back in the millennial kingdom. Got it. Yes. So that one's more puzzling to me. How do, where do they come from? Who are they today? How does that work? I'm with you on that one. Yeah. And chapter 47 is gonna be the judgment on Philistia. These, the Philistines, they've been a thorn in Israel's side from the very beginning, from the very outset. And God is gonna judge them as well. And then in chapter 48, like we were just talking about, we turn to Moab and their pride and some things that. They're indicted by in chapter 48, verse seven. They trust in their works and their treasures instead of trusting in Yahweh, instead of trusting in the Lord. Chapter 48 verse 26 29. They're arrogant and proud, but they would be humiliated by God's judgment. Verse 42, Moab is gonna be destroyed and left again without remnant. So there's no one left here and yet. Verse 47, in the future, there's gonna be a restoration of the mobi, chapter 48, Moab dealing with them. We're dealing with the subject of pride and God is going to judge them for that pride. This is fascinating to me because it's hard. We were even talking about this, man, this is a hard section to do a podcast on, here's some principles of application to draw out of these passages in these texts. And I guess the thing that came to mind for me was, at least what's been going on lately, where Trump is flying up to Alaska to meet with Putin, and then he's got Zelensky and the other, European leaders that are coming to the White House to meet with him. And Trump is doing all of this and claiming to be the president of peace and everything else. And yet what? Passages like this remind us of is that God is the ultimate arbiter of justice with the nations. God is the one that is, is behind all of this. That's what Daniel understood in, in, in his interaction with Nebuchadnezzar, when God answered the dream that Daniel had or that Nebuchadnezzar had, that the prayer that Daniel had to interpret the dream. Daniel understood, man, God, you are the one that sets up kings and takes out kings. And so even as we watch from our position and watch our president go and meet with all these different world leaders, we have to understand that none of this is happening apart from God's sovereign plan. That God has a plan for these nations, that he will judge nations in accordance with his perfect plan, and he will bring peace when. In his plan to bring peace to situations. And so it's fascinating to watch this from that perspective. And it gives us a comfort as Christians that we don't have to panic and worry about I hope this leader doesn't screw this up. I hope this leader doesn't mess this up. Nobody can mess up God's plan. God is working out his plan in perfect accordance with his will. That is a comforting thought to have. And I guess another thing that I would he add here is that Jeremiah, especially in these closing chapters, shows us how devastating it is to be on the business end of God's judgment and wrath. These things that he calls them out for are things that you and I could just as easily say. Yeah, that's true of Americans. That's true for a lot of Christians in the church. Certainly not everybody, but the judgment is so vast, so comprehensive, that even in chapter 47 verse six, it seems like Jeremiah inserts his own thoughts Here he says, ah, so of the Lord, how long till you are quiet, put yourself into your scabbard rest and be still, and then seemingly responding to his own inquiry, his own requests. He says, how can it be quiet when the Lord has given it a charge against Ash Kelon and against the seashore? He has appointed it. Judgment is certain for those who. Operate against God and his leadership. Another thing that stood out to me was, especially in chapter 48, this is the judgment against Moab, and here he says in verse 11, Moab has been at ease from his youth. And has settled on his dregs. He has not been emptied from vessel to vessel, nor has he gone into exile. So his taste remains in him and his scent is not changed. Now, God is talking about the kind of ju so this is a, this is anal analogy a metaphor about how wine is treated. He's saying, you guys are not treated like good wine. You're just left to spoil and to rot, and consequently, because you've not been afflicted, you're settling, you're you're in a place where you are no longer helpful. You're no, you're not been. You've not been tossled, you've not been given any adversity, and therefore your character is unchanged. You are essentially worthless when it comes to the wine. I think there is something there for us. It's not the same. We're not being judged by God. But notice here this sounds a little bit like, and it's adjacent to Proverbs chapter three, of Father disciplines, those whom he loves as a father does, or God disciplines, those whom he loves as a father does. The sons in whom he delights. Moabites are not God's people. But there's a principle here because God loves us, he will put us through adversity. He will empty us from vessel to vessel. He will move us so that we don't settle on our drags. God is interested in our affliction because it leads to our redemption. He's interested in moving us so that we don't grow complacent, so that we don't become like Moab who's on the business end of God's judgment, and I think that's a really helpful thing to remember. God's purpose in your life is not to give you comfort. God wants to comfort you to be sure. In fact, second Corinthians chapter one, Paul says, I comforted God comforted me so that I could comfort you. God certainly does that, but make note, God. God does not like his children to be comfortable for too long. I can attest to that throughout my life. I'm sure you could do the same in yours, but this is a really interesting point to me. I think it's worth you noting in your Bibles as you read through Moabs judgment. We're gonna see that in our study of one Peter along the way too. So much so that Peter's gonna write to his audience. Don't be surprised when you suffer. Don't be surprised when things are uncomfortable, so as though something strange were happening to you. So the principle is there for the New Testament as well. It's, that's great. Yeah. The fiery trial. You'll also note. That he identifies and calls out, and he's gonna do this in the next couple chapters too, the gods of these nations. And so when you read in verse seven of mosh going into exile, that is a god that was one of the gods of the Moabites. In fact, it was a God of child sacrifice. Pretty awful God there. And so God is much like he did during the Exodus when he was unleashing the plagues against Egypt. He's targeting the gods of these nations as well as he's bringing his justice to bearen. Remember a lot of them were mocking him. And when it comes to the Babylonians, we're gonna get there in a few chapters. They were the ones that came in and destroyed his temple. In fact, he's gonna talk about taking vengeance on behalf of his temple for that. And at this time in history a defeat for one nation over the other was that, that got that nation's, God was winning the battle over the other nation's God. And so God is calling out these false gods, not because he's giving them any legitimate. Credence here. But he's saying, look I'm winning. I'm the god. I'm the only God that's worthy of devotion. I do think though. These gods are real gods, lowercase G. Even if you would say they're false gods. And on that much, I know you and I would agree, I do think they're real entities, demons, right? Yes. Yeah. They're real entities. They're lowercase G gods. Yeah. That are powerful, that have the ability to change things in their surrounding limited, though they may be, they're still real. And I think that's what makes these gods and chanting so enticing because they do have a power. Now again, it's a lowercase P for power and there are a lowercase G for gods, but they're real. And that's why I think it's interesting that often you'll find God characterizing the God of these people as also being in captivity. You just talked about that. And that's because I believe they're real gods that are being affected. Now, how that works in the spiritual realm, and we can see in the physical realm they're being exiled. I don't know, but I do know that scripture tells us, Paul says that there is. Principalities and powers that are operational and we can't see them, but clearly they're organized and there's stuff happening all around us and we never see it. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe they're in exile in the sense that those that worshiped them are no longer there to worship them. And so if you remove the God's worshipers, what does the God have left behind? That's not much. Yeah. Good. Let's let's pray and then we'll be done with this episode. God we're thankful for the team of pastors that you've given us for Pastor Mark being able to jump in the last couple episodes. We're glad that Pastor Rod's back and we're excited to be back in your word and even. Passages that are a little bit more difficult for us to work through. We're grateful that we can do the hard work and to pull these applicational points outta there. And so we pray that we would continue to do that as we learn more and more about who you are. And we are so thankful for your word that shows us so much of that, and we pray this all in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Keep bringing your Bibles, tuning again tomorrow for another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. Bye.

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Yeah. I would agree with everything that you said