Hey, it's David, welcome back to A Changed Mind, a place where I will remind you each and every episode of The Certainty of the Goodness of the Future, a sanctuary for your human spirit. I am your host, your guide, your friend, David Bair, and man, I'm so excited for this episode to share with you some really shocking things that I learned both about Bobby Kennedy and what he believes in a private dinner I had with him last weekend. And this was not a private dinner with 5,000 people where I sat in a table in the back. I sat in front of Bobby Kennedy, literally directly in front of him and got to ask him questions for two and a half hours. And so whether you are already a Kennedy fan or whether you're a Kennedy hater or whether you're just starting to learn about RFK Jr., you're really going to love this episode. And I first got turned on to Bobby when I was anticipating the birth of my first son, Gabriel. And I say first son because I'm also anticipating more children. And I wanted to do some vaccine research. I had heard that some people were suggesting that vaccines might be linked to a lot of the behavioral challenges that we're seeing with children from autism to ADD to ADHD, potentially the dramatic increase in childhood allergies that we're experiencing. And so I wanted to learn for myself. My pediatrician had his own opinion around what we needed to do, which was basically the traditional vaccine schedule as recommended by the CDC. But I wanted to take my child's health into my own hands, and I'm not going to be talking a lot about vaccines. In fact, I didn't talk with RFK about vaccines at all over the course of our dinner. In fact, what I talked to him about was something that was even more shocking than what I learned in my own vaccine research, which was that most of the vaccines that we give our children significantly wane in their efficacy over the first few years, that a significant number of those diseases or conditions that we vaccine against are not life-threatening. There's a fantastic book, if you're interested in this, called Vaccines 2.0. It was written by two doctors who, in my opinion, took a very agnostic and mathematical approach to looking at every single vaccine on the schedule and the disease or infection that it prevents against. And you can actually look for yourself to determine whether or not you feel like your child needs to be vaccinated. Now, having looked across the entire spectrum of the vaccination schedule, what I determined was there was not a solid justification for vaccinating my child against most, if not all of the diseases that were out there. Again, I say diseases, right? It's mostly viruses or possibilities of infection. But as I was doing the research, I discovered RFK Jr., who was a strong proponent of getting good science and good data done related to childhood vaccinations. What he was suggesting was that the research that we do and the tests that we run, these double-blind placebo tests with control groups, with every other pharmaceutical product are not being done for childhood vaccinations. And what he's suggesting is that we saw a significant increase starting in 1989 with all kinds of problems that are now prolific within our children, again, from autism to ADHD to ADD to neurological problems to a dramatic increase in childhood allergies. And he said, hey, something ubiquitous happened around the world in 1989. And so one of the things that he points to is vaccines. There's some other things like glyphosate or environmental toxins that could also be responsible or in tandem contributing to the chronic disease state and the sickness state of our children. So I got turned on to RFK through my own interest in understanding and making decisions around the well-being and the medical decisions around my child. I didn't know anything about him before. And his story is really quite interesting because he got turned on to it through environmental work that he was doing. He was an attorney, a preservationist. He was dealing with the big petrochemical companies around the world who were dumping their toxins into different environments and pollutants. And one of the things he got turned on to because of the pollutant is methylmercury. And he started seeing the impact that methylmercury had on people when they were exposed to it. And then through the encouragement of really a group of mothers who felt like vaccines had damaged their children, became aware of the fact that methylmercury was a primary preservative in vaccines really up until the early 2000s. And so I listened to what he had to say and then I went on to read his book, The Real Anthony Fauci. And you can come to your own conclusions. The point of this episode is not to try to convince you of anything. I've said in other episodes, whether I'm talking about what anxiety really is or how money works or how you're limiting beliefs work or how reality works, don't believe anything I say. Do the research on your own. If what I say resonates with you, use it as a hypothesis in your own life. Allow it for a period of time to be part of the lens through which you shape your perception and test again. That's what you should do. Apply sort of the scientific or spiritual model of your own experience to your own life and come to your own conclusion. I read his book, The Real Dr. Anthony Fauci, and I thought it was an extraordinarily well-written, well-researched dissertation on the dysfunction of the current medical system at the highest levels led by Dr. Anthony Fauci and a lot of the collusion that was going on between the pharmaceutical companies, for-profit corporations, capitalism, and medical research. And I think it was an incredibly well-written book that opened my eyes to one of the things he describes, which is called corporate capture. And so corporate capture is the seizing of what are supposed to be either regulatory or neutral organizations by the organizations that they're actually meant to regulate. And we've seen this a lot, right? We've seen, for example, in the 2008-2009 banking crisis, literally over the course of a weekend, Tim Geithner and Congress appropriated $700 billion that they actually gave to the banks in order to, quote-unquote, solve the same problem that the banks created. And we see that the regulatory organizations that are meant to oversee how the banks are operating are filled with former banking executives or banking consultants. And so there's a lot of things that I think we all disagree on, depending on what your point of view is, depending on if you're a Republican, if you're a Democrat, if you're a liberal, if you're a conservative. But there's this really big middle of the road that I think we all agree on that I believe the media keeps us distracted from uniting around, which is none of us believe that regulatory organizations should be filled with the same people who either benefit or are restricted by that regulation. In other words, you shouldn't have the pharmaceutical industry running the regulatory organizations that are meant to govern. But that's what happens, and it's happening in environment with the petrochemical companies, it's happening in pharmaceutical with the pharmaceutical companies and medical companies, it's happening in finance. And so there's this concept called corporate capture, and Kennedy believes that most of the organizations have been corporate captured, including our own Congress. And if you've gotten into the idea of election reform or you've studied what goes on in lobbying, you can see that big money from corporation is influencing, if not owning or controlling the organizations that are meant to regulate. And so I was really fascinated by the level of detail that RFK Jr. went into in his book, The Real Anthony Fauci. And then I heard him start talking about, as he decided to run for president, the Ukrainian war. I heard him start talking about the border crisis, I heard him start talking about the national debt, and I was like, I want to know what this guy thinks about these issues. And I don't agree with him on everything. I had some questions that I wanted to ask him related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but I didn't have time because he's got a really hard stance around unconditional support for Israel that at first glance, I don't necessarily share. But I wanted to get access to hear how he thinks. And a friend of mine called me about six months ago, and we were having a conversation. And he said, yeah, I'm going to a private fundraising dinner for Bobby Kennedy Jr. And I was like, wow, that's amazing. Can you get me access to that? And he said, yeah, I'll see if I can. And apparently that dinner fell apart, but it gave me an opportunity to, well, I had this idea, which was, well, I'll just organize my own dinner. I know some folks, I know other influencers who have platforms and communities that should be informed, whether it's in alignment or whether it's not in alignment with what Bobby Kennedy agrees with. Because this is one of the most important elections of our lifetime, if not the most important election of our lifetime. And who leads us over the next four years and beyond is going to be critical in terms of being able to navigate through so many dramatic changes that are taking place in the world. I mean, the moment we're in two wars, AI is going to disrupt things in ways that none of us can possibly imagine. We've got a national border crisis. We've got $33 trillion in debt, which Kennedy pointed out over the last 100 days, it increased by a trillion dollars. And I can't remember exactly the numbers, but something like three years from now, just servicing the national debt is going to be more than our national defense budget. And something like five to 10 years from now, 50% of our overall budget is going to have to go to servicing the debt. Again, I don't know if those statistics are accurate or not, but that's what he said. So we've got a lot of things that need to be addressed and a tremendous amount of opportunity as well, because there's more technology, more resources than ever before for us to create an extraordinary society moving forward. And what Kennedy believes is that right now, those who have been leading us have been self-serving and are actually operating at the detriment to the rest of humanity. And so I reached out to his team and said, Hey, I'd like to organize a dinner. And it happened last weekend. It was really a miracle how it happened. I found a donor to contribute a house, which was a nice house, a 3,500 square foot house, but it could only accommodate about 15 to 20 people. And then more and more people were interested in joining us for this dinner, which required a contribution and a donation. Before I knew it, we were up to 40 people and I didn't know what to do. So I was coordinating this event with a good friend and a partner of mine, Christopher McDonald, who was one of the original people who created with Tom Bilyeu, the Impact Theory Show. And he currently works with the Kelly Clarkson Show. And Chris is just really well-connected. And he said, Man, I'll handle it. Next thing I know, we're in a 15,000 square foot house up in Westlake Hills that feels like I was in a Harry Potter movie. And we've got 40 people in these tables in this massive dining room, and I'm sitting across from Bobby Kennedy Jr. And so I wanted to know more, so I hosted this dinner. Before I get into, this is one of the rare times that I have my notes in front of me, for those of you watching on YouTube. Before I get into it, I got an opportunity to get to know him a little bit more. And one of the things that I came to understand is that this is a guy who isn't just saying things, whether you agree with him or not. He's actually committed to his cause. Back in the late 90s, the U.S. Navy was bombing, dropping bombs, basically running tests with explosive on the island of Vieques in Puerto Rico, where I now live. And I've been to the island of Vieques, and there's these big warning signs to not walk onto the island because there could still be active explosives there. But the U.S. Navy was using Vieques as a testing ground. And the locals in Puerto Rico were concerned about the impact environmentally and the impact on their health from these explosives. I can't remember exactly the statistic, but it's something like 23,000 bombs were dropped on Vieques over a short period of time. And so Bobby Kennedy was involved in the protests of that. He came down and supported the Puerto Rican people. And he was telling me the story about how he was literally, it was like a movie, trying to escape from the Coast Guard. He was in one boat, they were in another. He ended up getting the land, hiding under the floorboards of a house as the U.S. Coast Guard or Navy were looking for him. And finally, the dogs found him. They were shouting out his name, and he ended up in a Puerto Rican prison for a month as a result of protesting what was going on in Vieques. And so whether you agree with someone's policies or not, that's a level of commitment and integrity that I think needs to be respected. Because we live in a time right now where there's a lot of people with a lot of strong opinions who don't take the time to do any research to see if their opinions are justified, or who might be presented with opposing information, but have no interest whatsoever in looking to see if that information is accurate, let alone take any kind of action like protest, or to actually do something with their physical body that's in alignment with the words that they're speaking. And we certainly see that with politicians, right? There's so much talk about draining the swamp, and then as Kennedy says, presidents will turn around and actually fill the swamp with the most prolific swamp creatures that exist. I remember my heart was broken, I think it was back in 2008 when Obama won president in his first term, and I believed in Obama, and I believed in what he was saying. He leveraged the frequency of hope and the emotion of hope to bring a lot of people into his campaign, and his promise was that he was going to drain the swamp. He said, hey, look, we've got this issue where the same people who are making decisions around finance or the same people who have created this financial crisis, I'm going to get them all out. And he turned around and he basically walked the biggest executives and the biggest consultants and the most benefited people in the world from financial deregulation into the White House, into the cabinets, and into the regulatory box. So he did exactly the opposite of what he said he was going to do. And so one of the things that I learned in talking with RFK was that the guy does what he believes. He doesn't say one thing and do another. And I asked him, I said, you know, I've watched a lot of your interviews now in anticipation of this dinner with you, and people attack you like right to your face. They'll say things that I know based on now my study of you are not true, or they'll say things that I can see are meant to inflame or agitate you, and you have almost no reaction to that. You don't take anything personally, and rather than react, you respond in such a grounded, powerful way. And I knew that Bobby had been in recovery working a 12-step program in Alcoholics Anonymous for a while. I didn't know how long, and I've shared with you before that that's a big part of my own journey of transformation and the journey of building my emotional capacity and my emotional resiliency and my spiritual connection. And I know from my own experience that it's helped me develop resiliency and emotional capacity. And I said, you have an extraordinary ability to stand in the face of insult and to not react. And I said, is that from your work in 12-step? And before I even finished 12-step, he said absolutely 100%. He said it's all a result of the healing that I've done through my recovery work. And he's been in recovery since the 1980s. I said, how many 12-step meetings do you go to a week? And he said nine. And I was like, man, that is unbelievable. This is a guy who puts his personal growth and his spiritual growth and his recovery first. It reminds me of that adage, excuse me, from Gandhi where Gandhi says, I have so much to do today, I must meditate for two hours instead of one. And Bobby Kennedy puts his recovery first, and you can see that it allows him to be the powerful force for what he believes in that he has become. And I think that should be acknowledged. I'm sure the guy hasn't lived a perfect life. I'm sure he has character defects like everybody else. I'm sure he's done things that aren't in alignment with the highest values that we all try to hold and share, but he's doing the work. And so the first question I asked him was, I said, what do you think is the biggest threat right now to America? And I was shocked at his response because I thought he was going to say something like the national debt. There are a lot of big threats right now to American security. I thought he was going to say the national debt. I've heard him talk a lot about the borders. I thought he was going to say potentially a world war. And since we're in two significant wars right now, in terms of the US backing Ukraine against Russia and the US now supporting Israel in their, I don't know what you would call it, in their response to Gaza, I was going to say their invasion of Gaza. But again, it's a complex issue. And his answer was very, very surprising. He said chronic disease in the United States, in particular, the epidemic with our children. And I felt chills, you know, I got goosebumps when he said that. And he started explaining what's happening, right? And he started out by saying that when you look at 70-year-olds today, one in 10,000 70-year-olds have autism. And when you look at children today, one in 34 children have autism. And I think the statistic is something like one in 24 or 25 boys, one in four boys have autism. And he said, and nobody's talking, nobody's really talking about the regulatory and research organizations are not funding research towards understanding why is this happening. And he said a lot of people sort of make the claim that autism was so much less and ADD and ADHD and a lot of these other emotionally dysregulated conditions were not diagnosed prior to 1989 when we started to see the prolific increase. He said, but that's just a talking point. It only requires a momentary pause in the application of the smallest amount of logic to go, well, okay, how about 70-year-olds today? What's the rate? Do you see 70-year-olds walking around, you know, banging their head on the wall or unable to look at people in the eyes or having to wear helmets so they don't harm themselves? And the answer is clearly no. And so, you know, there's something has happened to our children and he talked about how they are being bombarded with environmental toxins, food toxins, medical toxins, and it's destroying their lives from the very, very beginning. And it was emotional upsetting what he was talking about. And he said that, you know, the issue here is, again, that pharmaceutical companies have essentially seized not only the regulatory organizations and the research institutes, they've seized the universities, they've seized the media. He said that 50% of the primetime advertising spending on the major news channel is by pharmaceuticals. And he said it's not just to push their products, it's to actually control the content. Because when you think about it, that means 50% of the salaries of every news ink during primetime is being paid by pharmaceutical companies. 50% of the salaries of all of the producers are being paid by medical and pharmaceutical companies and so they're controlling the narrative. And he said, and we're destroying an entire generation of children and no one's doing anything about it. And if anybody brings up anything related to doing research or the potential harm that vaccines are doing or that medical products are doing to our children, they're systematically destroyed as individuals, as influencers. He talked about Ozempic, the new obesity drug that's coming out. And he said the, and I can't remember what regulatory organization it is. I don't remember if it was the CDC or the NIH, but he said they've just came out with their new guidelines that says when a child is diagnosed as obese, the first line of response is now going to be Ozem.which is crazy, rather than, hey, changing their diet, stop eating frosted flakes and Fruit Loops and honeycombs, which by the way are banned in Europe and other countries around the world. Rather than a change of diet, rather than exercise, we're gonna turn to medical procs. And what he shared was that the average cost of a young person on Ozempic is $15,000, meaning the average profit for pharmaceutical companies is gonna be $15,000 per year, and this is a product they'll be put on for life. And he said the research that's done is geared towards the case that the pharmaceutical companies are making, which is this is some sort of genetic disorder and it can't be fixed. Now again, for those of you who've been listening to my podcast for a while, or maybe you listen to some other thought leaders in the medical space, genetic predispositions are just predispositions. If you can take off emotional burden, if you can heal trauma, if you can support through proper nutrition and exercise, what I believe is, I believe in epigenetics, right? I believe that you can control your genetics by taking tension off the system and the quote-unquote bad genes can be turned off. But his point was that there's an attack on our children taking place. And part of the challenge is not only the bias of the legacy media in convincing people that vaccines are safe when the proper research has not actually been done and there's a tremendous amount of evidence that's showing that they're actually doing harm, is that as a parent, I understand, it would be almost impossible for you to take responsibility for the fact that you've damaged your own child through the decisions that you've made and through trusting your doctor. Again, I don't know if this is true or not, you'd have to do your own research, but Bobby said that a doctor's office gets a bonus for the percentage of children who adhere to the vaccine schedule. So they don't actually get paid for vaccine distribution, but they do get paid by, they do get a bonus. And so he said it's something like 90% of the children in a pediatrician's practice have to adhere to the schedule in order for them to get the bonus. And if that drops down to 89%, they get no bonus. And so when Carol and I went into the pediatrician's office in Sarasota, Florida, where we were looking for a pediatrician early on, the pediatrician denied us because we said, hey, we're not planning on vaccinating our child according to the schedule. And he said, you're a risk to that bonus for the entire practice of the doctor. And he said, so they can't take you on. You start to alter the numbers in economic disfavor. And what the pediatrician told us was, well, imagine your child has percussis, which is whooping cough, which you can vaccinate against, which by the way, the vaccine fades in terms of its efficacy tremendously over the first few years. And it has fairly poor, in my opinion, efficacy numbers from the get-go. And the risk, by the way, of death or significant harm with whooping cough is the probability is extraordinarily low. However, it's on the schedule. And the pediatrician said, well, I can't have you with your child sitting in the waiting room, not vaccinated. What if your child has whooping cough and then the other children in the waiting room become exposed to it? And I said to the pediatrician, well, if the other children are vaccinated, supposedly there should be no issue. And I was met with dead silence. And I just said to the pediatrician, thank you for your time. And my wife and I walked out. And began looking for a functional medicine doctor and pediatrician to care for our child. So chronic disease is a national emergency. And Bobby's actually gonna declare it as that, if and when he becomes president. Because he also talks about how he's gonna handle these situations. Not just that there are these problems, but he, based on my conversation with him, presents very logical solutions to these complex issues, which I have not heard from any other presidential candidate. And by the way, I don't just mean Trump and Biden. I've not heard this from any other presidential candidate since I started paying attention to politics during Bush Jr., right? Unfortunately, politics has become like sports teams for us. We just root for one team over the other. We don't hold our team accountable. In fact, I think we hold our sports teams more accountable to the decisions they make, and the players they played, and the players they trade, and the coaches they hire, than what we hold our president to. It's just become sort of a hoo-rah-rah root fest. But whether it was Bush or, gosh, I even remember going back to Reagan and Mondale, even though I was really, really young. I don't know why I paid attention to these things. Or whether it was the dude Mitt Romney, or whether it was McCain, or whether it was Obama, or whether it was Biden, or whether it was Trump, none of these guys have ever said shit. None of these guys have ever presented real business solutions or practical solutions to the challenges that we're having. If you're an entrepreneur right now, or you're a business owner, a CEO, you would never hire either of these guys to run your business. I mean, come on. You would never hire Trump or Biden to run your business. I appreciate that Trump is breaking free from, to some extent, the traditional political regime. But if you listen to the guy, this is a guy that can't hold a focused thought for more than 30 seconds. So I think we have to be intellectually honest with ourselves in saying we don't have good options. And as I sat and listened to Bobby Kennedy Jr., and I apologize, I started moving into judging or criticizing other politicians, but I'm really fed up with not having candidates that we can vote for who actually apply a high level of intelligence to solving these important challenges that are affecting us, affecting our families, affecting our children, affecting our businesses. Kennedy gave that. He said he's gonna declare a national emergency immediately, and he's gonna transition a lot of the research that's being done developing medical products on actually understanding their efficacy, their potential harm, and he's gonna create a data set that is going to justify what he's anecdotally come to understand to be true based on taking a look at what research does exists, and then he's gonna allow the attorneys to settle. He's had a 20-year history, 30-year history of being able to take on some of the biggest corporations, but you have to, as he explained, create an extraordinary amount of justification for the fact that, for example, the product Roundup, which was created by Monsanto and Glyphosate, is related to cancer. He took that challenge on, and he says, you can actually take down the big corporations, and you can get these products off the market if you're able to get the research, but the challenge right now is they control the research, and so what he's going to do as president is begin to apply research so we have actual data so that we can make data-driven decisions about our own healthcare. I asked him about borders. I said there's millions and millions and millions of people coming over the border illegally, and I saw an interview recently with Joe Rogan and Dr. Phil, and Dr. Phil was talking about how the Chinese are buying up land, which seemed to be in strategic patterns, around very important military bases in the U.S., and he talked about how there are tens of thousands of what are described as military-aid Chinese men coming across the border through Latin America who aren't like the other refugees, who seem to be seeking political asylum, who are coming across beaten, broken, and poor, looking for a better life. He said there's a different feel to what's going on with these military-age Chinese men that are pouring across the border, and I asked Kennedy about it, and he said, well, there's no doubt that we have to put some systems in place to control who's coming across the border, and he said, but in terms of, he said, I've heard, and I did see it with my own eyes when I was down at the border about the, again, nothing against the Chinese, but a different type of demographic coming through the border, which may or may not be related to the acquisition of land near strategic military installations in the United States, but I asked Kennedy, I said, what do you think that's about, and he said, we're in strange times, and the table was just silent. He said, I don't know what else to say about it, and that's one of the things I really liked about my conversation with Bobby, like if he didn't know what to say, he didn't know what to say. He said, but we're in strange times, and it reminded me, if you've ever seen Lord of the Rings, kind of reminded me of what was starting to happen in Middle Earth and the Shire, when all of a sudden, the dark forces were moving around the world. Sauron was active. They, strange things were happening, right, in Middle Earth that you can't really describe, and he said something similar. I asked him about the Ukrainian War, and based on not only what Bobby Kennedy has shared, but what other experts, and I make no claim to being an expert, just a guy who's trying to understand what's going on in the world so I can make the right decisions in terms of who I support and where I put my energies and focus, what it seems like is this unprovoked war with Vladimir Putin wasn't unprovoked at all, that in 2014, the US spent $5 billion backing what seems to be a CIA and covert intelligence operation to overthrow the democratically elected pro-Russian government of Ukraine and put a new government in place. I mean, there are tapes from Victoria Nuland who recently stepped down as the third most influential person in the State Department who has been known for her neoconservative views, which neoconservative basically means, in a sense, creating global dominance through America and creating control around the world through America. By the way, I'm using that language particularly because it's through America. I don't believe it is. I believe it's corporate capture of America and utilizing our government and our military-industrial complex to initiate agendas around the world. Who's initiating it? Well, powerful people who also run corporations and control a significant amount of economic, military, media, and industry power. But Victoria Nuland was caught on tape talking about who we were going to put in place to replace the democratically elected pro-Russian government and leader in Ukraine. And then my understanding is we started to provide weapons to this new Ukrainian military. Victoria Nuland admitted that we had chemical weapons and bioweapons labs in Ukraine. And then this new Ukrainian regime began to systematically kill Russians in the Donbass region and in other regions. And so as we began to amass military forces in Ukraine and run military tests, eventually Putin invaded. Now, this would be similar to if Russia, for example, overthrew a pro-American democratically elected government in Mexico, which then started systematically killing Americans who were living in Mexico and started building up military forces and developing chemical and bioweapons in Mexico. We would probably invade. So at a minimum, this idea of unprovoked, which the media is trying to convince us of over and over and over and over and over again, I mean, every time you look at it, it's the unprovoked war in Russia, came with a tremendous amount of provocation. And as I started diving deeper in understanding what was going on in Russia, I heard RFK talking about that $5 billion not only came or was appropriated from Congress or at least came from the US, but it was in partnership with the Open Society Foundation run by George Soros. Now, if you understand what George Soros has been doing in the United States, he's been effectively funding the appointment of attorney generals and local judiciary in major cities where we're seeing a complete breakdown in law and order. And so one of the things I believe that Soros has identified is that in order to disrupt society, and I don't know why he wants to disrupt American society and democracy, but it seems that he wants to. And he's certainly a questionable individual. If you watch his interview from, I don't know what it was, 10 years ago on one of the major news networks, he articulated that he expressed no remorse in turning in Jews as a Jew during World War II and couldn't understand why he should have any type of remorse. And he's likened himself to a god. So all of this information is public. You can go and take a look at it yourself, but he's kind of like the penguin from the Batman movies. It seems like he's a real world villain who is trying to create Gotham cities around the United States, and he's highly successful at being able to do it. I mean, you look at what's happened to some of our cities, like Portland and Troy and Los Angeles and San Francisco, they're completely destroyed. Or at least have no resemblance to what they used to be. And part of that has been correlated to these attorney generals and local judiciary and local legislators that George Soros is funding. My point is, I think we might have evidence that this guy does not have the best interests of democracy or American society in his mind. And he co-funded this overthrow of the Ukrainian government with us. In other words, our own government is partnering with George Soros in international affairs. And this is a guy that I believe we should be preventing from any type of involvement in American affairs. And so I asked Kennedy about this. I said, hey, you know, I heard you talking about how the Open Society Foundation and George Soros were co-opting this overthrow of the Ukrainian government. Like, how do you explain our government partnering with George Soros when we see some of the actions and influences that George Soros is having, which are negative, in America? And Bobby looked at me again and he said, strange times. We're in strange times right now. And so I found, in my conversation with Kennedy, that he's highly intelligent. He's leading with Americans under the age of 45. It's really incredible. He said, you know where we're losing the election right now? It's baby boomers. Because baby boomers are influenced by legacy. And I talked to him about a campaign idea I had, which was called Talk to Your Parent. You know, we need to start educating our parents because they're only getting information from an incredibly biased, controlled media source, which is the legacy media. And what I found is that this guy is real, that this guy is authentic, and I'm with him. I think he's our best solution for addressing the challenging issues of the day. And you know, I posted on my Instagram and my Facebook, I posted some posts of pictures from the event, and then I posted kind of a funny picture of me standing next to Kennedy. And I was like, he's announcing his vice president soon. Like, it would be a good look. David Bear for vice president. And it was interesting just to see people's comments. Now, most of the people who commented are friends of mine or following me, so they were positive comments. But then there were other comments like unfollow. And I just think it's so crazy that you would disassociate yourself from someone simply because of their political views. If you go back to the history of this nation, it was built upon our ability to have a civil discourse around what we believed was best for the country and who we believed was best to lead it. And we didn't stop being friends because of it. We didn't stop being family members because of it. But we've got sort of a distorted monstrosity that has emerged in terms of our political dynamic and our relationship with each other. What I'm hoping is that more people are going to make themselves available to having intelligent discourses, to being able to talk about the issues, to being able to talk about our leader potentials, and to be able to stay friends. Because when we divide ourselves over the election of our leaders, I think that just supports the division that is at the root of all of our problems today. I think if we were united around our common issues, then we would be able to hold our leaders more accountable. But again, I think that the media and through media propaganda, and if you look at who funds the media, we've become divided around a handful of issues. A handful of issues like LGBT, not that those issues aren't important, a handful of issues like abortion. But I think most of us would be in agreement on most of the issues if we had access to the real information, but we don't. And my brother posted something recently which said, hey, it's really, really simple. We need to continue to finance the war or support Ukraine against Russia. And I messaged him and said, hey man, it's not that simple. It's really not that simple. My personal opinion is we need to stop financing the war because essentially what financing the war means is using the Ukrainian people to enact a globalist agenda. And you hear Mitch McConnell, he said it. Hey, we're basically using this war in Ukraine to exhaust the resources of Russia. We're not doing it to support the Ukrainian people. I'm all for financing humanitarian aid, but I believe that if you stop financing the war, Russia will back down. My brother said something interesting. He said, well, it'd be nice if Putin said, I'd like to hear Putin say that. And I said, well, did you watch the interview with Tucker Carlos? And so the information is out there if you're willing to pursue it, or you can just have your opinion. And people can present you with alternative information and you can hold to your opinion because it's become a part of your identity or it's become a part of your personality. It's become your favorite sports. But I think we need to move beyond that. And I would be equally willing if I thought that the community and network around me was interested to hosting an intimate dinner with Donald Trump or hosting an intimate dinner with Joe Biden and being able to have the same conversation with those guys. And who knows, maybe I'd be surprised. But I can tell you that I was pleasantly surprised by Robert Kennedy Jr. He understands the issues. He understands the root cause of these problems. He understands the dynamics of the swamp in a way that I don't think Trump understands those dynamics, even though Trump may be well-meaning to an extent of draining the swamp. I think Biden is the swamp. But I think RFK not only understands what the swamp looks like, but he knows how to navigate it and de-extract it. I mean, he's been doing that as an attorney with environmental issues for the last multiple decades. And I think he's the right guy for the right time for the right challenges that we're facing right now. But that's just my opinion. I'm curious what your opinion is. If you're watching on YouTube, you can comment below. If you're on the podcast and you like the episode, rate it and review it. And again, it's not about agreeing with me. Do you appreciate the perspective? I'm sure I'll get some people unfollowing me from this episode. But I think each and every one of us has a responsibility to not be afraid of speaking our truth, whatever that is, and also being open to other people's truths and being able to have a civil discourse around. I think if we can do that, then anything is possible. And if we can't do that, then I think we're gonna get more and more of the momentum that we don't like, right? And it's gonna start building faster and faster and faster until frankly, we're put into a place where we have to have conversations with each other because we're all sitting on one side of the fence and a handful of people are sitting on the other side, controlling our decision-making process and our choices. So I don't want us to get to that point in time, which is really what motivated me to have this conversation with Bobby. And it was an amazing, amazing experience. If you're watching on YouTube, I've got some photos that I've shown you of the dinner. If you're listening on the podcast, you can check them out or check out my Instagram. But again, my point is to be able to get clear on what I believe and be able to share that with you for whatever it's worth. So hope you enjoy the episode and this debrief from my two and a half hour dinner with Bobby Kennedy Jr. I love you and I'll see you on the next episode.