Speaker A

You know, it's a.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

This is very controversial because a lot of.

Speaker A

There's a lot of pain in the world.

Speaker A

There's a lot of very, very traumatic, horrible, horrendous things that are happening in the world.

Speaker A

So this idea of like, everything happens for a reason.

Speaker A

Someone might say, hey, yeah, why should a child go through that in the world?

Speaker A

Why should there be genocide?

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

So I want to be very careful the way I preface that.

Speaker A

But everything I've been through.

Speaker A

Most people wouldn't trade lives with me if they ever knew my story.

Speaker A

But.

Speaker A

But I'm so grateful for all of it because I am so strong.

Speaker A

I'm so strong.

Speaker A

And I wouldn't replace any of my exes.

Speaker A

I wouldn't.

Speaker A

In hindsight, you know, I would.

Speaker A

All I can do now, you know, I was saying this to you the other day, and I really want people to know this.

Speaker A

I'm gonna work on this quote that I made and, like, finesse it.

Speaker A

Maybe between you, me and Dori, we can like, figure it out.

Speaker B

He's a wordsmith himself.

Speaker B

So let's do it.

Speaker A

Amazing.

Speaker A

When God gives you a.

Speaker A

God gives you a second chance or a new chance at something.

Speaker A

Let's call it a second chance.

Speaker A

A third chance is still a second chance on the previous chance, right?

Speaker A

Okay, fair.

Speaker A

So when God gives you a second chance.

Speaker A

Okay, I'll start it again.

Speaker A

When God gives you a second chance.

Speaker A

Yes, it's a chance.

Speaker A

You honor that by making it a true reset, a real opportunity for your life.

Speaker A

The chance is just a chance, right?

Speaker A

If you get out of an abusive relationship, he helped you get out, you prayed for it.

Speaker A

You figured out how to get out, right?

Speaker B

Yep.

Speaker A

But then what are you gonna do?

Speaker A

Are you gonna go into the same habits?

Speaker A

Are you gonna pick up a new vice to deal with the pain of?

Speaker A

And what?

Speaker A

And what?

Speaker A

And what?

Speaker A

What?

Speaker A

How will we honor that?

Speaker A

That is a reset.

Speaker A

God doesn't give you a reset.

Speaker A

He gives you a chance, a chance opportunity.

Speaker A

You make it into a reset.

Speaker A

Because if he gives you.

Speaker A

If he gives you a chance and you throw it away, then it's not really a reset, is it?

Speaker B

Same thing.

Speaker A

It's the same thing.

Speaker A

So I am happy for everything that happened so far because I'm learning.

Speaker A

But I'm not happy to make those mistakes again.

Speaker A

I'm not happy to make those missteps that is dishonoring your life.

Speaker A

You have to value the time.

Speaker A

We have to value the time.

Speaker A

I'm not saying that cuz I figured it out.

Speaker A

I'm saying It.

Speaker A

So I make this promise on your podcast to do that for myself.

Speaker B

We're all a work in progress, so telling you, yeah, the accountability helps.

Speaker B

I mean, of course, between friends, between colleagues, just putting things out there in the way that you see them and understand them in this moment is big.

Speaker B

And you might say something that sounds so simple for you to say now, but for someone else, it's like, I've never even considered it that way.

Speaker B

That's.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

So true.

Speaker A

What do you think, Doriki?

Speaker A

Should we wordsmith it?

Speaker A

What's going on?

Speaker A

What do you think?

Speaker C

I think I have to distill this for a little bit, because sometimes, simmer, sometimes I.

Speaker C

I have to absorb and kind of receive, especially when we get deep, because I'm actually still kind of stuck on the artist.

Speaker C

The artists have to be careful with their message because we can.

Speaker C

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker C

That I'm stuck on there.

Speaker C

And so I need some time to kind of listen to this over.

Speaker C

But I really.

Speaker C

I really do think that at some.

Speaker B

Point in time, two things here.

Speaker B

First of all, I'm.

Speaker B

I must be.

Speaker B

I must be stupid for thinking that we could do this in 30 minutes with you, because none of our conversations are 30 minutes.

Speaker B

But also, I got to say this, too.

Speaker B

We.

Speaker B

There's always people in our lives that can, like, really just lift us up and, like, find us.

Speaker B

I mean, I'm a pretty positive guy.

Speaker B

I try to keep myself at a certain standard, but whenever we talk, it's, like, it elevates.

Speaker B

And because we talk, like, pretty much daily, I feel like it elevates daily.

Speaker B

So, like, maybe I come down a tiny bit, but I find myself higher and higher each day.

Speaker B

It's really interesting.

Speaker B

And I have a feeling, Duriki, because you've.

Speaker B

I mean, we're.

Speaker B

We come from the same place.

Speaker B

We've known each other forever.

Speaker B

So I have a feeling, even in this little snippet of attack, you probably get the same sense from her, because she's 100.

Speaker C

I was gonna end this person with saying we need maybe once every other month when she has time to kind of come in and drop some gems with us.

Speaker B

We could definitely spend some time.

Speaker B

I think we could.

Speaker C

The short distance to her, her understanding of emotions.

Speaker B

You know, we're gonna have to do this in parts because we're here today.

Speaker B

We haven't even got past the childhood, really.

Speaker B

We've only really focused that and some thoughts that you've formulated from experiences.

Speaker B

So maybe we're gonna call this part one and not try to push past that.

Speaker B

Because there's so much more that we have to get into.

Speaker B

We got to get past the age of 10, so we'll do that another day for sure.

Speaker C

Explore boarding school a little bit more, because that's a fascinating experience for me.

Speaker A

Oh, my God.

Speaker A

I don't think.

Speaker A

I rarely talk about.

Speaker A

About it.

Speaker A

And, like, people have such a misconception of it.

Speaker C

Absolutely.

Speaker A

You know, like, back in that day, it was, like, very elite to send, like, your kids to boarding school.

Speaker A

It was, like private school.

Speaker A

It was, like, in the top hundred schools in India.

Speaker C

Yeah.

Speaker A

And it was run by, you know, nuns.

Speaker A

And so you had, like, a very different concept of the world.

Speaker A

The children that were in that school had came from different parts of life and the world to be.

Speaker A

Even to be.

Speaker A

To afford to be in that school.

Speaker A

And then.

Speaker A

Not that I.

Speaker A

That we came from money.

Speaker A

My mom just figured out a way that she could send us there.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And then.

Speaker A

But so many different reasons that a child is sent to boarding school.

Speaker A

Like, you just lost your parent.

Speaker A

You might have lost both your parents.

Speaker A

You know, your parents can't tell you something, so you don't even know why you're there.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

You know, that's true, too.

Speaker A

It was so many.

Speaker A

So many different stories, but we all found love with each other.

Speaker A

We found friendship with each other, you know, And I always try to think of it, like, in a good way, but, like, in hindsight, you know, who knows what my life would have been like had I, like, been raised at home.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

I feel like every time I leave my parents now, my dad is 77.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

His birthday's coming up, so I think he's gonna be 78.

Speaker A

And so I.

Speaker A

Every time I leave him, like, I'm about to go take him to his doctor's appointment right after this, and I'm excited to see him.

Speaker A

And when I leave him, I'm gonna be sad.

Speaker A

Like, it's like back in the day, like, leaving him to go back to boarding school.

Speaker A

So I'm a little bit.

Speaker A

If I ever meet you, Doria, you'll know.

Speaker A

Like, I hug.

Speaker A

I hold on a little tighter for every hug, you know, it always feels like, when will I see this person again?

Speaker A

You know, It's a good thing to, like.

Speaker C

I think that goes back.

Speaker A

Will Smith said it.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Will Smith always says that, like, hold someone a little longer, you never know how it's gonna feel when they're gone.

Speaker A

But at the same time, like, maybe a little too much pressure, you know, Like.

Speaker A

Like, chill, dude.

Speaker A

Like.

Speaker A

Yeah, I gotta think of Life abundantly.

Speaker A

At the same time, like, choking out time like that right?

Speaker A

Now, you made a very important point.

Speaker A

Point the message to the world, right?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

It's like, you.

Speaker A

You ever hear these songs about, like, suicide and things like that, right?

Speaker A

And I'm like, what does that leave someone?

Speaker A

Like, it's.

Speaker A

There's a.

Speaker A

There are some songs that are so beautiful, and it's just.

Speaker A

It starts with pain and ends with pain.

Speaker A

And I remember once I called my sister, and I'm like, I have this song.

Speaker A

And, like, what message am I putting out there?

Speaker A

Because the hook was, like, looking back, everything good and bad was meant to be for a reason, right?

Speaker A

I'm like, what am I saying?

Speaker A

Like that?

Speaker A

Am I, like, blaming the victim?

Speaker A

Or am I like.

Speaker A

Or, like, just what is the message?

Speaker A

She's like.

Speaker A

Of different songs.

Speaker A

We were, like, dissecting it, and I'm like, yeah.

Speaker A

She's like, talia, you cannot control what.

Speaker A

How people will feel.

Speaker A

And at the end of the day, right, there could be a song that ends up being someone's last song.

Speaker A

And they hurt themselves, unfortunately, because they found solace in that, and they thought, okay, this is what I do, Right?

Speaker A

What, are you going to blame yourself for the rest of your life?

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Like, so it's like, there's different ways people can take your music, and I love hearing those stories.

Speaker A

There's a song.

Speaker A

So there's a record I'm about to put out.

Speaker A

It's called Sound of My Love.

Speaker B

Yep.

Speaker B

Can't Wait.

Speaker A

Which I wrote with Steve D'Angelo, like, a decade ago.

Speaker A

It was.

Speaker A

Yeah, it's gonna be, like, 2015.

Speaker A

And I only recently realized that it was actually the sound of God's love.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

Was not the sound of my love.

Speaker A

And so what was it gonna say with that?

Speaker A

What was I talking about?

Speaker A

Previously, the message.

Speaker A

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A

So, okay, my sister's friend heard the song and was going through a really tough time, and she heard the whole song from a different perspective.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

So, okay, the chorus is, did you see me?

Speaker A

Didn't you feel me?

Speaker A

Did you hear the sound of my love?

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

And this says that twice, right?

Speaker A

And it's like, now when I look back at it, it was like I was crying in the shower the other day.

Speaker A

It was like, I'm like, oh, these were songs for myself.

Speaker A

And then I was like, oh, these were songs.

Speaker A

No, God was telling me, did you see me?

Speaker A

Did you feel me?

Speaker A

Did you hear the sound of my love?

Speaker A

I was always with you.

Speaker A

I was, like, chilled as I say that.

Speaker A

And then that just happened a few weeks ago.

Speaker A

Now this whole record is like, we're in the studio doing it.

Speaker A

It's such a beautiful process with Tom Pkai.

Speaker A

Big love to Tom Makai for everything he puts into a project and where he goes to respect you as a person, as an artist, and into his own spirit to create it.

Speaker A

So these beautiful things are happening once you get back home.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

But this woman.

Speaker A

There was a woman, you know, a decade ago, lost, what, like, gave birth to a stillborn child.

Speaker A

And it was so hard for her, but she said it was her singing to her baby.

Speaker A

Did you see me?

Speaker A

Did you feel me and the baby singing about, did you hear the sound of my love?

Speaker A

I'll always be with you like, so I.

Speaker A

Where, where is my silly love story?

Speaker A

But this unrequited love I was God over.

Speaker A

Oh, please.

Speaker A

This guy doesn't love me back.

Speaker B

Way bigger.

Speaker A

Yeah, it's way bigger, you know, and if you can, your message can be the.

Speaker A

Your message.

Speaker A

God sends me messages for myself, for my future self, and then I figure out, oh, this is what it meant.

Speaker A

Yeah, Right.

Speaker A

But, like, who you work with now, who we are now, who you surround with now, these are choices we can still make.

Speaker A

I really wish anyone watching this that we all create love every day.

Speaker A

Someone told me once, like, stop saying, have a nice day.

Speaker A

I always tell you, Anthony, create a beautiful day.

Speaker A

And that way you're not like, have, oh, I'm gonna magically have a beautiful day.

Speaker A

This is not happening.

Speaker A

We are making things happen.

Speaker A

If we are connected to a larger source, when we are connected to the ether, when we're connected to God.

Speaker A

Right?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

So what will we bring to this day?

Speaker A

And just people, you know, create love for others that will automatically create love for yourself, because you can only create love for others if you actually love yourself.

Speaker A

So it's on automation.

Speaker A

Some of us is on automation.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

So a lot of us is on automation.

Speaker A

But our source.

Speaker A

Yeah, the signal from the source has to be so clear.

Speaker A

And so who do you surround yourself with?

Speaker A

I cut out so many people from my life.

Speaker A

Thank you for everything.

Speaker A

Thank you for the lessons.

Speaker A

And I never let someone go begrudgingly.

Speaker A

I like.

Speaker A

Thank you.

Speaker A

Sometimes I don't give them a final conversation.

Speaker A

So the people who never got the final conversation.

Speaker A

This is for you.

Speaker A

I was thinking about you guys last night, right?

Speaker A

Yeah, I was thinking about you guys.

Speaker A

I remember you, what you did for me.

Speaker A

The good times, lovingly.

Speaker A

But you did not deserve that final conversation because there's a maddening when someone's in a toxic state.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

I believe that everyone's a good person.

Speaker A

Okay?

Speaker A

Every God doesn't create evil.

Speaker A

Okay, so we all come out good, and then broken people then hurt us, and then we, you know, act out on the trauma.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

And this healing, that can bring someone from being deeply narcissistic to deeply spiritual and loving.