Welcome to Close it now, an H Vac sales training podcast with Sam Wakefield.
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Speaker AThis is Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BGreetings.
Speaker BWelcome back.
Speaker BSam Wakefield here, this is Close It Now.
Speaker BToday we've got a really cool topic that I want to talk about.
Speaker BIn fact, this is going to be part one of a two part series about painting the picture.
Speaker BAre you painting an emotional picture for your client?
Speaker BThat is what will differentiate you from the competition in the marketplace.
Speaker BThat's what's going to separate you head and shoulders outside of everyone else.
Speaker BSo that's what we're talking about today.
Speaker BI've got a couple really cool examples that we're going to go over and really start to understand the mindset and the basic philosophy behind how to paint the picture for someone.
Speaker BSo thank you for tuning in.
Speaker BThis is again the Close it now podcast, your source for not just H Vac sales.
Speaker BObviously H Vac is a big focus, but you know, thank you for listening everyone who does other stuff.
Speaker BWe've got electricians, we have plumbers, we have people who are in home security systems, we have people who listen that sell cars and automotive philosophy is the same.
Speaker BYou know, it's dealing with people.
Speaker BOne of the main things we have to understand is we are not salespeople.
Speaker BWe are in order to be, well, we are salespeople.
Speaker BBut in order to be exceptional, in order to be just a stone cold closer, you have to become a psychologist.
Speaker BThis is not just about learning the details of your product and being able to pitch a product.
Speaker BYes, it's awesome to be able to give a great presentation, but that is not why people buy.
Speaker BI mean, how many times have you ever heard, you know, you gave the very best presentation of anybody.
Speaker BBut I still went with this other company because they were cheaper.
Speaker BSo that's telling us right there that yes, while people were impressed by a presentation, that is not why they bought or didn't buy.
Speaker BYeah, sure, we educated them and then they still bought from somebody else.
Speaker BOr they took our concept and gave it to somebody else and said, hey, can you do this plan for cheaper?
Speaker BAnd they did.
Speaker BAnd so they went with them because people aren't loyal to a good presentation.
Speaker BThey're not building a relationship with a good presentation.
Speaker BThey're not building a relationship with somebody who just knows, knows the details of a product or knows all the manufacturer spec sheet behind a product.
Speaker BSo this is what we're talking about with Paint the Picture.
Speaker BI've alluded to it a little bit in some of the other podcasts here and there and kind of loosely covered it.
Speaker BBut today I really wanted to dive in, thanks to my coaching student Jordan.
Speaker BHe was saying, man, we really got to focus on this.
Speaker BThis is huge.
Speaker BIt's been a game changer for him and I know it's going to be a game changer for you as well.
Speaker BSo painting the picture, what does it mean?
Speaker BLet's use a basic example and, but remember, don't get lost in the weeds of what this example is.
Speaker BThink about the overarching philosophy and the overarching concept of what we're talking about.
Speaker BYou know, explaining a, maybe a one stage system to somebody.
Speaker BHow many times have you heard people explain it like this?
Speaker BAnd then I'm going to do it again a different way and see if you can tell me the difference.
Speaker BSee if you can feel and hear the difference in the way it's explained.
Speaker BSo most of the time when somebody's explaining a single stage system, they say, okay, cool.
Speaker BSo there's lots of levels of equipment.
Speaker BLet's start here.
Speaker BYou've got your single stage, which it's on or it's off, 100% or nothing.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo that's like when you are getting in your car, the light turns green and you put your foot all the way to the floor and you floor it.
Speaker BSo 100%.
Speaker BThen you get to the next stoplight and then you hit the brakes and every single time it comes on, you're flooring it and then you hit the brakes.
Speaker BThat's not very efficient.
Speaker BRight, right.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BThey move into, you know, the next type of system.
Speaker BSo the next is two stage or wherever else you're going.
Speaker BSo that's one way to explain it.
Speaker BThat's usually where most people stop with an explanation.
Speaker BBut at the end of the day, all the homeowner heard was this thing turns on and turns off and it's like air conditioning that we've always had.
Speaker BOkay, so what, what does it matter?
Speaker BWhat does it mean?
Speaker BSo the way to properly go through this and explain to someone and get Them emotionally connected.
Speaker BBecause really what we're wanting to do is we're wanting to set a stake in the ground and emotionally tie them.
Speaker BYou want to put them in a situation mentally where they can feel the difference.
Speaker BYou want them to feel as you're describing.
Speaker BYou have to use word pictures.
Speaker BWhat do we mean by this?
Speaker BSo here's a great, a lot different explanation of a single stage system.
Speaker BOkay, Mr.
Speaker BHomeowner, just, you know, imagine the sun's up in the air, you know, wherever you're at.
Speaker BI'll use the example of a super hot summer day.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIt's a hot summer day, typical July day.
Speaker BThe sun's up, it might be 100 degrees outside, the heat's blasting on the house.
Speaker BAnd so ideally, the system would have a nice long run cycle so it can dehumidify, because dehumidifying is the number one purpose of the air conditioner.
Speaker BAs it dehumidifies, then it feels cooler in the house.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BOkay, great.
Speaker BAnd that's what makes it feel awesome.
Speaker BBut then.
Speaker BAnd so when you've got your thermostat, like you told me, you set it at 74 degrees, and so that's what it's doing.
Speaker BAs the sun goes down, however, the cooling requirement starts to drop.
Speaker BIt doesn't need as much air conditioning to get to temperature.
Speaker BSo what happens is it doesn't run as long because it gets there a lot faster.
Speaker BSo let me ask you this, Mr.
Speaker BHomeowner.
Speaker BHave you ever woken up in the middle of the night and thought, oh, man, it's really getting hot in here.
Speaker BThis is weird.
Speaker BBut when you look at the thermostat, it's exactly where you have it set, and you're like, gosh, this is bizarre.
Speaker BWhy does it feel hotter now in the middle of the night when it's so much cooler outside?
Speaker BAnd you even have the temperature set a couple degrees lower at night than you do during the day, but it feels warmer than it does at night because the thermostat's exactly where you have it set.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThat's bizarre.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BWell, what's happening is because the sun went down, it's not raising the temperature on the house.
Speaker BSo the temperature's right.
Speaker BBut because it's not running as long, it's not dehumidifying.
Speaker BSo that gives you that 3am gross mugginess.
Speaker BWhen you wake up in the middle of the night and you're just like, ugh, that's gross.
Speaker BRight, Right.
Speaker BAnd because what we're doing in this story is we're leading them in the story so they have the epiphany moment on their own.
Speaker BWe can't just give someone our epiphany moment when we realize what's going on.
Speaker BWe have to give them their own epiphany moment where they realize, oh, and usually at that point the homeowner says, oh, it feels gross because it's the humidity going up.
Speaker BRight, right.
Speaker BThey realize what's going on.
Speaker BSo we did several things with that.
Speaker BWe gave them their revelation moment of realizing, hey, this is more about humidity than it is temperature.
Speaker BAnyone can come in and say, hey, this holds the temperature steady.
Speaker BBut why?
Speaker BWhat does it matter to the homeowner?
Speaker BIt doesn't.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter.
Speaker BThey need to understand the foundation of it.
Speaker BAnd when they come to that revelation on their own, which they always do, if you explain it this way, we've set the stake in the ground and we've set this foundation of where we can come to later and say, if you're okay with waking up in the middle of the night being hot, then of course the single stage equipment, you know, might be a good fit for you.
Speaker BBut if you don't want that anymore, we have to look at some of these other levels of equipment in order to solve that problem.
Speaker BAnd they, they're already mentally there.
Speaker BThey're mentally prepared to make that change.
Speaker BThat's how they, you know, homeowners will disqualify themselves from basic equipment.
Speaker BWhen you go through it this way, and so can you feel the difference?
Speaker BBecause at the end of the day, people don't care how the equipment does it.
Speaker BThey just want to know how it's going to make them feel.
Speaker BBecause how many times have you gone to a project and, you know, you've asked them, you know, what are you really looking for?
Speaker BAnd they'll say, well, I want it to be cool when I want to be cool, and I want it to be warm when I want to be warm.
Speaker BAnd I wanted it to be cheap to do it right.
Speaker BThey're not telling you, well, I want it to be variable speed and I want it to have this ECM motor.
Speaker BI want it to have all of this control.
Speaker BNo, they don't tell you any of that.
Speaker BThey really don't care.
Speaker BThey might use some of that terminology because they've given themselves the Google crash course of trying to all of a sudden figure out what's going on with their air conditioner and how to buy one and what to look for.
Speaker BBut more importantly, they really don't care about the Details.
Speaker BThey want to know how it makes them feel.
Speaker BNow, let me ask you this.
Speaker BWhen you have gone through that type of explanation and they've gotten so emotionally and mentally they're connected now to what's going on, they start to understand it.
Speaker BAnd then all of your competition comes into the house and they say, okay, well, you know, you put.
Speaker BThis is a single stage system.
Speaker BYou put your foot on the gas 100%, you take it off.
Speaker BAnd that's not very efficient.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd let's move on.
Speaker BAnd that's about the extent of the explanation.
Speaker BThen how much separation do you think that gives you from the rest of the competition?
Speaker BAn enormous amount.
Speaker BBecause now you can solve that problem for them by having that emotional connection to something, the way that you're explaining it now.
Speaker BPainting the picture.
Speaker BLet's talk about this a little further, because it's not just about painting a word picture as you explain things and giving them their epiphany moment.
Speaker BWe have to do two things.
Speaker BWe have to do what's called building the gap.
Speaker BSo they think they're at maybe a 5 on their pain level.
Speaker BAnd they think that, you know, most people going into a project, they think they're maybe at a 5, and they think the new project is going to take them to maybe a 6 or a 7.
Speaker BWhen reality, when our job is when we're in the house, is to show them that, no, this is not normal.
Speaker BYou've just gotten used to what you think is a 5 is realistically a 2 or a 3 on the 1 to 10 scale as far as good.
Speaker BSo you're way down here.
Speaker BBut no, it's not just going to take you to a six or seven.
Speaker BThe new project is going to take you to like a 9.
Speaker BSo we're showing them one how bad the situation really, truly is by basically asking the questions, listening, and then, you know, just having them explain the pain points that they have, the what are the problems they're having, and then showing them how it's going to be better in the future.
Speaker BNow, how do we do that?
Speaker BThis is the rest of painting the picture for the homeowner.
Speaker BAnd here's the part that most people miss.
Speaker BThis is where everyone stops, you know, explaining a solution to a problem.
Speaker BLet's take a pretty simple solution.
Speaker BMaybe it is just stuffy in the bedroom at night.
Speaker BYou know, we've gone through the questions, we've asked the right questions, and we've got them.
Speaker BThey've shared that.
Speaker BYou know, we always just kind of wake up in the middle of the night and it just seems really stuffy in the master bedroom.
Speaker BYou know, all the house seems pretty good, but at night when we lay down, you know, we go to bed and just always seems really stuffy in there.
Speaker BIs there something we could do about that?
Speaker BSo then, of course, when it comes time for presentation time, the way that we paint the picture for the homeowner, we have to do some future casting.
Speaker BWe have to show, put them emotionally and have them envision what it's going to be like.
Speaker BSo that goes like this.
Speaker BSo you told me earlier, you know, Mr.
Speaker BHomeowner, that, you know, one of the concerns you would like us to address was it seems to be really stuffy in the master bedroom at night.
Speaker BIs that right?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BRemember we talked about that?
Speaker BOkay, great.
Speaker BSo remember when we were talking about the different levels of equipment, the basic system, the on, off like we talked about, Remember that when you got up in the middle of the night and you said, you know, you experienced that every few nights you'll get up 3am and it's gross and muggy.
Speaker BWell, so can you see how these continuous fans and the other equipment, because it's cooling almost all of the time and constantly keeping the air mixed, can you see how that's going to be a solution to your problem?
Speaker BAnd so they're going to say, of course they're going to say yes, if you've explained it properly.
Speaker BAnd that right there is where most people stop.
Speaker BBut here is where you, the beauty happens.
Speaker BHere is the future casting that has to come in.
Speaker BSo the very next thing is, okay, great.
Speaker BSo when you wake up in the morning and you've had a nice, comfortable, nice sleep all night, night's sleep, all night, you didn't wake up at all.
Speaker BAnd now you're more rested and ready for the day, that's going to feel awesome.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BAnd so that's that one little extra piece of your future casting.
Speaker BThough now they're thinking about, oh, man, Yeah, I just got a great night's sleep.
Speaker BI didn't wake up.
Speaker BIt wasn't uncomfortable in the night.
Speaker BYou've situationally, emotionally connected them to the future of what it's going to be like once your project is completed and they're experiencing it because again, they don't care about the details.
Speaker BThey just want to know how it's going to make them feel.
Speaker BSo let's do the same thing with maybe a, maybe a kid's bedroom in the corner of the house.
Speaker BWhen you're able to make a difference, there no, let's do, let's do allergies.
Speaker BAllergies are a big one.
Speaker BYou know, indoor air quality, obviously, with everything that's going on in the world right now.
Speaker BAnd that's the questions.
Speaker BWith everything going on in the world right now, how important is indoor air quality to you?
Speaker BOh, it's pretty important.
Speaker BOkay, great.
Speaker BSo who in the house experiences allergies, asthma, respiratory issues, things like that?
Speaker BWell, turns out, you know, little Ginny, the daughter in the, she lives in the front corner bedroom.
Speaker BShe experiences allergies and they're pretty bad.
Speaker BOkay, great.
Speaker BHow bad?
Speaker BWell, she has some medication for it.
Speaker BOh really?
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BThat bad?
Speaker BTell me more about that.
Speaker BWell, you know, she did shots for a while but we're past that.
Speaker BBut now we're just on to, you know, some pills she takes, it's a prescription, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker BSo you've got them to share all that information.
Speaker BSo when you're offering the solution, don't talk about the details.
Speaker BIt's much more about, I mean, yes, go through the details, say, okay, great, you know, we're going to install this, maybe this germicidal lamp and this air filter, it's going to clean the air up, it's going to, you know, get rid of the VOCs out of the air.
Speaker BIt's going to do this, this and this.
Speaker BOf course you have to go through those details and then the rest of that, the future casting looks like this.
Speaker BAnd so when once we've gotten through this project, we're able to turn your house into a sanctuary from all of the allergens and everything that's bothering little Jenny and she wakes up the next morning and she's going to come running in here and give you a big hug and say, oh my gosh, thank you so much, I've slept so much better because now I'm not sneezing all night or you know, now she's not fighting the allergies or you know, you're able to give her a lot cleaner environment so she can have, you know, a lot better sleep.
Speaker BJust the houses sanctuary away from the allergens.
Speaker BWe're able to make such a huge difference with that.
Speaker BAnd that's that next piece you're future casting what it's going to be like for their daughter to live a lot more allergy free life in the house.
Speaker BSo the little bitty things we've got to.
Speaker BAnd so again, don't get lost in these examples much more and don't try to copy it word for word.
Speaker BThink about the Overall philosophy.
Speaker BThink about the idea that if you just go through and say we'll stick on the allergy topic.
Speaker BIf you just go through and say, okay, we're going to install this bitter filter.
Speaker BIt's thicker filter so it'll pull more stuff out of the air and you don't have to change it as often.
Speaker BAnd we're going to install this UV light which is going to prevent growth in coil and in the plenum.
Speaker BAnd it's going to be this much.
Speaker BWould you like to add it to the project?
Speaker BThat's a whole lot different.
Speaker BThat's just going through the details.
Speaker BAnyone can read the detail spec sheet.
Speaker BIt takes really becoming that psychologist and saying, okay, great.
Speaker BRemember we talked about those allergy issues.
Speaker BOnce we have installed this filter and this UV light, the house is going to be really be a lot more like a sanctuary for your daughter and she's going to wake up with so many less allergy issues.
Speaker BMan, that's going to be great.
Speaker BWhen you're not having to have to take as much medication and she's not nearly as affected by the seasonal allergies here.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIt's a different conversation.
Speaker BIt's not about the details.
Speaker BIt's about the solution to their problem.
Speaker BSo that's painting that future casting, painting that picture, what it's going to be like.
Speaker BNow, here's the thing with your competition in your area, nobody's doing this.
Speaker BOnly the very top people in your area or anywhere else are having a conversation like this, using this kind of language with a homeowner.
Speaker BAnd it makes all the difference because I'm gonna say it again because it's so important.
Speaker BPeople don't really care about how your product does something.
Speaker BThey only care that it's going to work and how it's going to make them feel.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BThat's the podcast for today.
Speaker BThat's part one, Part two.
Speaker BWe're going to actually kind of flip the script and we're going to talk about how do we paint the picture for ourself to discover what it is that's holding your client back from purchasing from you, what is holding them back from buying, what is holding them back from doing the deal, Getting the deal done.
Speaker BSo thanks for listening again.
Speaker BMy name is Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BIf you are not part of our Facebook group, go find it.
Speaker BYou can get the link right off of the website.
Speaker BIt is closeitnow.net so there you can learn all about our coaching program.
Speaker BReally, really, really have some such amazing results with our clients from the especially, especially I do private coaching.
Speaker BSo if you are someone who you are getting ready for this season, you know that 2020 is your year.
Speaker BIt's 2020 started off just ridiculously horrible, but now, and with all the craziness going on in the world, but now it's getting hot and you know this is the year to just explode your business.
Speaker BReach out to me.
Speaker BI would love to hear from you.
Speaker BMaybe you are a fit for the coaching program which will just amplify and escalate your success.
Speaker BIt'll grow it to such a, it's such a fast rate that you're not wasting time anymore.
Speaker BYou don't have to go out and you know, trial and error, all this stuff because I already got it figured out for you.
Speaker BSo reach out to me.
Speaker BGo to the website CloseItNow.net and you can email me Sam CloseItNow.net and I'd love to hear from you.
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Speaker BI love to get your feedback.
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Speaker BYou can actually do it by increasing that close rate, increase your ticket size and just crush it, crush it in your marketplace.
Speaker BSo until next time everyone, let's go out there and save the world one heat stroke at a time.
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