You're trying to get more done.
Speaker:Maybe you're an artist, uh, starting a new hobby, or just want to improve
Speaker:your work productivity, but it's hard to focus, you lack energy, or
Speaker:sometimes you just don't feel like it.
Speaker:The answer might be embracing your nervous system's potential in the present moment.
Speaker:Let me explain.
Speaker:Your nervous system serves as your body's communication and control center.
Speaker:It regulates automatic functions, things you don't have to think about
Speaker:like breathing and heartbeat while also supporting your thinking and decision
Speaker:making and your emotional regulation.
Speaker:Your nervous system can have different states or potentials that change
Speaker:throughout the day, moment to moment.
Speaker:Understanding the different states of your nervous system can help
Speaker:you to better manage your energy, focus, and even be more productive.
Speaker:I'll explore these three states and how to get the most benefit from each of them.
Speaker:Hey, my name is Justin Sunseri.
Speaker:I am a therapist and coach that wants to help you live with more
Speaker:calm, confidence, and connection without psychobabble or woo woo.
Speaker:Welcome to Stuck Not Broken.
Speaker:This podcast is not therapy, of course, nor is it intended to replace therapy.
Speaker:I'm going to give you a very brief understanding of what
Speaker:the Polyvagal Theory is.
Speaker:If you've never heard this before, this is not the place to start.
Speaker:I would actually go to episode 101 of my podcast.
Speaker:I'll have a link in the description for you for that whole playlist.
Speaker:It's a series of episodes that discusses these ideas or the
Speaker:autonomic states in a lot more detail.
Speaker:But basically for now, it's good enough to know that mammals can be
Speaker:in one of three different states.
Speaker:Basically.
Speaker:It's definitely more complex and we'll touch upon that.
Speaker:But basically mammals can be in a state of safety, of flight, fight, or of shutdown.
Speaker:In other words, they can be in a state of connection, mobility, or immobility.
Speaker:The safety state is all about connection to self, others, and environment.
Speaker:The mobility state is about flight and fight.
Speaker:And the immobility state shutdown is about, well, immobilizing.
Speaker:It's about playing dead in the face of a life threat.
Speaker:Those are the three basic states.
Speaker:These states can also combine and create mixed states.
Speaker:Just like if you were to combine the primary colors, they create mixed
Speaker:colors like red and blue equal purple.
Speaker:Same thing here.
Speaker:So if you combine safety plus flight fight, that's connection plus mobility,
Speaker:that results in a mixed state called play.
Speaker:Safety plus shutdown, so safety plus immobility equals stillness.
Speaker:That's the ability to be alone and immobile and be okay with it.
Speaker:But you can also combine flight fight mobility with shutdown
Speaker:immobility, resulting in freeze.
Speaker:That's where you're charged up, but immobile at the same time.
Speaker:So it's like having the gas on in the car, the accelerator,
Speaker:plus the brake at the same time.
Speaker:The wheels just, just spin.
Speaker:All of these primary and mixed states come from biological pathways.
Speaker:It's not just like feelings that we have floating around inside of us.
Speaker:These emotions, these different thoughts that we have, all come
Speaker:from the state of our body.
Speaker:And we can feel these states when they're active.
Speaker:It's not a random guessing game.
Speaker:We can actually feel them when they're there if we're mindful enough.
Speaker:And so that's what I want to talk about here is how can we notice
Speaker:when they're active and get the most benefit from them while they're active.
Speaker:The first one we'll start with is the safety state.
Speaker:The safety state is connected to the ventral vagal
Speaker:pathways from your brainstem.
Speaker:The safety state is all about connection to self, others, and environment.
Speaker:It's known as the social engagement system.
Speaker:When this state is active, we can do things like make eye contact.
Speaker:We can smile.
Speaker:We can hug.
Speaker:We can be close to each other.
Speaker:Use gentle contacts.
Speaker:If you don't have the safety state active, you can't really do those things.
Speaker:Or if you do, it won't feel good.
Speaker:It won't feel safe.
Speaker:The safety state is active when we have safe people and safe places or safe
Speaker:enough people and safe enough places.
Speaker:The safety state is ideal for creativity and connection,
Speaker:optimal performance, productivity.
Speaker:When we have enough access to our safety state, that enables us to
Speaker:accomplish a wider variety of things.
Speaker:We can think critically, we can weigh pros and cons, we can map out like an
Speaker:agenda on how to accomplish a project, we can work with others really well, we can
Speaker:hear what they think and what they feel with empathy and share what we think and
Speaker:feel and come to a shared compromise or negotiation, uh, and to meet our goals.
Speaker:We could also plan out what's the right kind of colors that we want
Speaker:to use to create a certain- to mix, to create a certain color in
Speaker:a painting that we're doing, maybe.
Speaker:We can think about what's the, what's the optimal way to edit the words
Speaker:in a book to get a point across.
Speaker:From safety, we have a lot of access to critical thinking, but also to the
Speaker:present moment and connecting with ourselves, connecting with others.
Speaker:So we have access to thought, but also to emotion as well.
Speaker:So ideally when it comes to productivity, creativity, and getting
Speaker:stuff done, we want to have as much access to safety as possible.
Speaker:That doesn't mean that we're meditating and our eyes are closed and we're in that,
Speaker:you know, cross legged meditation pose.
Speaker:No, that's not what it means at all.
Speaker:As long as we have enough access to safety, we can simply
Speaker:focus and get stuff done.
Speaker:Okay, so how do you get to your safety state?
Speaker:That's the next question, and it's a good question.
Speaker:There's a couple things you can do that are predictably
Speaker:going to equal more safety.
Speaker:What it looks like for you is not a guarantee, is not a,
Speaker:there's no prescription for this.
Speaker:I don't know what you should do in particular to get your safety state,
Speaker:but generally there are some pretty predictable things that you can do.
Speaker:Number one is to extend your exhale.
Speaker:No matter what state you're in, if you can, be mindful of your
Speaker:inhale, but when you exhale.
Speaker:Extended a little bit longer.
Speaker:When you do that, it triggers the parasympathetic nervous system.
Speaker:And that's where the safety state lives.
Speaker:So, extend that exhale and that'll help you to settle into
Speaker:the present moment a bit more.
Speaker:While you extend that exhale, I like to recommend to my clients, that's a
Speaker:good time to like say something nice to yourself, or that's a good time to
Speaker:remind yourself what you're working on.
Speaker:When you extend your exhale, just add a little something else onto
Speaker:it, like, like a kind word or two.
Speaker:The other thing that can generally help and get into more safety and
Speaker:to connect to the present moment is to be more mindful of your
Speaker:movements and of your sensory input.
Speaker:So whatever you're doing right now, be mindful of it.
Speaker:You can also consciously choose to do something like go for a walk, uh, and
Speaker:then be aware of, uh, the movement of the walk, but if you're painting something,
Speaker:you can also be aware of the movement of your arm while you're painting of
Speaker:your elbow, of your shoulder, if you're sketching something furiously or slowly,
Speaker:you can be mindful of that movement.
Speaker:Likewise-
Speaker:and even while you're doing that, you can be mindful of the sensory input.
Speaker:So what's the vibrancy, what's the color of the paint that you're using.
Speaker:What's the sensory input when you're going out for a walk or exercising.
Speaker:What does it feel like to flex and release?
Speaker:What do you smell around you?
Speaker:What do you hear?
Speaker:What do you see?
Speaker:All those sensory input things.
Speaker:Be more mindful of those, and that can help settle into the present moment
Speaker:and settle into your safety state.
Speaker:Now, I don't expect you to stop what you're doing and go for a
Speaker:walk in a forest or, or, or a hike.
Speaker:But You can definitely include elements of nature into your daily routine.
Speaker:A really easy one is to open your blinds and look outside.
Speaker:Open your blinds and let natural sunlight come in.
Speaker:If you can, sit by a window and look at outside while you work.
Speaker:I personally love to do that.
Speaker:You can have elements of nature through sound.
Speaker:I personally like the sound of rain.
Speaker:So while I'm working in, especially if I'm like slower paced or just really
Speaker:settling into slowness and stillness, I like to have rain on in the background.
Speaker:It just helps ground me.
Speaker:You could also use smell.
Speaker:If you have a candle that has the smell of the forest.
Speaker:Yeah, it's not the forest, but you're now you're a step closer to
Speaker:the sensory inputs of the forest.
Speaker:The other idea is to connect with safe others.
Speaker:You don't have to be best friends with everyone you work with, but
Speaker:can you exchange a smile with them?
Speaker:Yeah, probably.
Speaker:Can you exchange some chit chat about the weekend?
Speaker:I hate it personally, but there's some benefit to that.
Speaker:There's benefit to seeing smiles and hearing the vocal prosody in
Speaker:someone's voice when they have a, when they're in their safe enough state,
Speaker:they'll do something with their voice.
Speaker:It's just, just naturally.
Speaker:It's the sing song quality that we have where we can go down, but also up
Speaker:and we can do everything in between.
Speaker:That's called vocal prosody.
Speaker:And when we hear that, it automatically kicks us into our
Speaker:safety state a little bit more.
Speaker:So yeah, I agree- chit chatting about the weekend is painful, but there's a lot of
Speaker:benefit to interacting with a safe other.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So maybe you work by yourself and you don't interact with other people.
Speaker:Well, first off, get the heck out of the house as much as you can.
Speaker:And smile at somebody at Starbucks or wherever you go, or on your
Speaker:walk around the block, smile at someone, say hello, hear their voice.
Speaker:If you can't do that, well, you probably listen to music.
Speaker:Can you hear the voice of the person who you're listening to?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:If it's rap, if it's heavy metal, that is less than ideal cause there's
Speaker:screaming and a lot of monotone voices.
Speaker:Uh, if you, if you could listen to something like the Beach Boys
Speaker:or Etta James, that has way more vocal prosody, and that might help
Speaker:kick you into your safety state.
Speaker:Likewise, on a break, when you listen to podcasts or YouTube videos like this one,
Speaker:can you connect with the person's voice?
Speaker:Can you hear the safety in their voice?
Speaker:Can you see their face and see how that, or mindfully recognize
Speaker:how that feels within you?
Speaker:You don't have to have the perfect natural environment.
Speaker:You don't have to have the extremely supportive and co
Speaker:regulative person there with you.
Speaker:There are elements of these things you can incorporate into your workday or
Speaker:into your creative process to help you feel a little bit safer than before.
Speaker:So how the heck do you know when you're in your safety state?
Speaker:You'll feel it.
Speaker:Emotionally, you'll feel it.
Speaker:It feels, it can feel like calm.
Speaker:It can feel like relaxation.
Speaker:It can also feel like excitement and productivity.
Speaker:It can feel like curiosity.
Speaker:It can feel like interest.
Speaker:All of these things pretty much involve you being connected to the present moment.
Speaker:If you can pause and look out of your blind or outside of your
Speaker:window and just take in the present moment, you're in your safety state.
Speaker:If you're thinking critically and planning things out for a project,
Speaker:you're in your safety state.
Speaker:So feeling is one way, but as I touched upon already, thought is another way.
Speaker:Thinking critically, weighing pros and cons, uh, planning
Speaker:out step by step processes.
Speaker:Then I'm all involves some level of safety state, and that's a really
Speaker:good way to recognize it as well.
Speaker:Okay, that was safety.
Speaker:Now let's shift over to sympathetic activation, which you probably
Speaker:know as flight or fight.
Speaker:It's not that simple, but you probably know it as that.
Speaker:The sympathetic state comes from the sympathetic nervous system.
Speaker:And I want you to associate this not with flight or fight, but with mobility,
Speaker:sympathetic nervous system and mobility.
Speaker:Flight or fight is a possibility when we don't have access to literal safety.
Speaker:When we're in an actually dangerous scenario, then yeah, flight or
Speaker:fight becomes extremely relevant and your body will utilize that.
Speaker:In that moment though, the body is not accessing its own safety state
Speaker:because of the needs of the environment.
Speaker:It needs to run away or be aggressive.
Speaker:But when we have enough safety in the system, we can also utilize mobility
Speaker:from the sympathetic nervous system.
Speaker:So look at this as when we're in an actual danger, yeah, flight or fight.
Speaker:When we have safety in our system, plus sympathetic, that combines
Speaker:to create playfulness, creativity, productivity, motivation.
Speaker:It's a lot different than flight or fight, which is about getting
Speaker:away or being aggressive.
Speaker:We want mobility.
Speaker:We want motivation, creativity, productivity.
Speaker:That's different.
Speaker:The sympathetic state is really useful when it comes to productivity,
Speaker:motivation and creativity.
Speaker:It's great for these like short bursts of creativity or productivity, but also
Speaker:just drawn out longer extended periods.
Speaker:When you have those short bursts, that's probably a lot of sympathetic
Speaker:flight fight coming up, or a lot of sympathetic mobility coming up that
Speaker:you just use all at once, uh, probably with powerful movements, like if you're
Speaker:painting, you're going to be using stronger, more forceful brushstrokes.
Speaker:You might be splashing things on the canvas.
Speaker:If you're sketching, you're going to be moving your hand, wrist,
Speaker:elbow, and shoulder faster.
Speaker:When you're creating something for work, you're going to be getting
Speaker:a ton of work done all at once.
Speaker:You're going to be type, type, type, typing heck of fast.
Speaker:And that's, that's great.
Speaker:But we also want longer drawn out periods of motivation.
Speaker:And that comes from your safety state being active more along with your
Speaker:sympathetic state that comes from those two things, balancing each other out.
Speaker:And you'll have this, this longer period of pro productivity
Speaker:that's more sustainable.
Speaker:Otherwise, if you have less safety in your system, then you're going to be
Speaker:having these bursts and then perhaps collapsing into a shutdown, which we'll
Speaker:talk about next, but it might be like a burst of sympathetic and then shutting
Speaker:down and then burst and shutting down.
Speaker:A lot of good can come from that, but we want, we want to have more safety
Speaker:and just draw that process out and draw out that motivation and that
Speaker:productivity and that creativity.
Speaker:If you don't have safety in your system, it's going to be more scattered.
Speaker:Your ideas, your inspiration will kind of pop up here and there, but it's not as
Speaker:predictable and you'll have less control.
Speaker:I don't like using that word in a sense, but it'll feel less in control and
Speaker:feel more out of control, be sporadic.
Speaker:And then when it's there, you'll try and capture it and make the most out of it.
Speaker:And there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker:But with more safety in your system, it's It won't be as sporadic.
Speaker:You'll have more intentionality over it.
Speaker:So how do you intentionally use your sympathetic nervous system,
Speaker:your mobility, in order to be more productive and more creative?
Speaker:One option, which you're probably doing already, and look, I've been
Speaker:there too, is procrastination.
Speaker:The longer you wait, the more it builds up, and eventually you
Speaker:just gotta get the thing done.
Speaker:You just have to use your mobility.
Speaker:No shame.
Speaker:I've gotten through a lot of my life this way, and it definitely has its usefulness.
Speaker:And some of us just say, well, that's how I get stuff done.
Speaker:It is what it is.
Speaker:Fine.
Speaker:That's, that's an option.
Speaker:You just wait around until that sympathetic energy builds so
Speaker:much that you complete whatever the heck you're working on.
Speaker:The other one that I recommend more is to have more structure with goals and
Speaker:to funnel your energy toward a specific direction toward your goal or goals.
Speaker:So instead of waiting for the deadline and then, you know, using that procrastination
Speaker:energy to get the thing done, can you do a little bit each day toward that goal?
Speaker:Like, yeah, you probably can.
Speaker:Will you?
Speaker:Well, that's, that's another discussion.
Speaker:If you have more safety in your system, I think you're more likely to do that.
Speaker:If you're more leaning into defensive activation, more flight fight, or more,
Speaker:even more shutdown, you're probably not going to be doing that as much.
Speaker:So this really comes down to how much you're practicing
Speaker:being in your safety state.
Speaker:And then how much of that are you bringing over to your
Speaker:creative and productive process?
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So the first option is procrastination.
Speaker:Second option is get a little bit done each day toward your bigger goal.
Speaker:And within that second option, you can set small to medium achievements.
Speaker:So there's the big goal.
Speaker:Like I want to complete this painting or I want to complete
Speaker:this, uh, slideshow presentation.
Speaker:That's the big goal, but.
Speaker:Day to day, you could have achievements that you set toward that bigger goal.
Speaker:So my bigger goal is a PowerPoint presentation.
Speaker:Well, I have to figure out what's the design that I like.
Speaker:That's an achievement.
Speaker:What font, what color am I pulled towards?
Speaker:If I know that that works toward the bigger goal.
Speaker:So instead of sitting down and focusing on how do I achieve my big goal,
Speaker:it's more about how can I achieve my achievement, the font, the color.
Speaker:Do I have enough sources?
Speaker:Do I have the number of slides layout?
Speaker:Have I planned how long is this going to be?
Speaker:If you can start making a list of things, those achievements and knocking
Speaker:them off, well, all of a sudden you're making progress toward the bigger goal.
Speaker:If you don't have that and you sit down to work and all you have
Speaker:is sympathetic activation, that's going to go here and there and
Speaker:everywhere you're gonna be distracted.
Speaker:You're going to be pulled in numerous directions, and that's an option,
Speaker:but I would encourage you to set your achievement list and start knocking
Speaker:those things off toward your bigger goal.
Speaker:It creates this funnel.
Speaker:It creates an avenue toward completing your goal.
Speaker:In my mind, it's the image of Luke in the X Wing who is, uh, he's
Speaker:about to blow up the Death Star, and he goes, he flies down into that
Speaker:that ravine, what do you call it?
Speaker:It's a funnel.
Speaker:It's a tunnel.
Speaker:I'm not sure what to call it.
Speaker:If you're a Star Wars geek, tell me what the heck it's called.
Speaker:I forget what it's called.
Speaker:But he flies down into the trench.
Speaker:Oh my god.
Speaker:He flies down into the trench.
Speaker:Before the trench, he didn't know where to go.
Speaker:He's just flying out in space.
Speaker:He could literally go anywhere.
Speaker:But once he knows the goal, which is blowing up the Death Star through that
Speaker:ventilation shaft, which is connected to the trench, he flies into the trench, he
Speaker:flies through the trench and then fires his missile into the, the, uh, ventilation
Speaker:shaft and blows up the Death Star, right?
Speaker:So that trench funnels, ,his energy, his activation toward one specific goal.
Speaker:You can do that every day and you can do that every day toward a larger goal, like
Speaker:a painting or a slideshow presentation.
Speaker:So while you're working, let's say you have the big goal and you have
Speaker:your achievements list and you're working at it, but then you notice
Speaker:you're pulled this way and that way.
Speaker:I think music, when you're in a sympathetic state, is really helpful.
Speaker:Again, it just kind of helps to focus your energies.
Speaker:In the present moment toward a specific direction.
Speaker:You could use music as a way to get up and dance out your energy,
Speaker:sit down, and then focus better.
Speaker:Um, but you could also use it as like a beat.
Speaker:It's the rhythm to get stuff done.
Speaker:I personally love listening to chill hop when I'm trying to focus,
Speaker:but I'm also kind of amped up.
Speaker:Chill hop has a beat, there's no vocals, it's just music.
Speaker:And there's this really cool, like little sounds that are often implemented
Speaker:into it, like sounds of nature.
Speaker:Um, but it also has the beat and it has this lo fi crackly sound, which
Speaker:I personally find really soothing.
Speaker:When I have energy and chill hop, I noticed that I'm way more focused and
Speaker:get way more done versus not having that.
Speaker:So listen to the music that helps you focus.
Speaker:Same thing.
Speaker:If you're working out, you know, what music works for you to help you focus and
Speaker:to help you stay down that trench, right?
Speaker:You know, what music helps you do that.
Speaker:For me?
Speaker:Rap music does not help me whatsoever to work out.
Speaker:Heavy metal music that helps me out.
Speaker:You'll know that you have access to your sympathetic state because it'll feel like.
Speaker:Anxiety, you might feel like anger, but that's without enough safety.
Speaker:So we want mobility with safety.
Speaker:So feel mindfully or look out for mindfully increased heart rates,
Speaker:some muscle tension, rapid breathing.
Speaker:If your thoughts are going all over the place, these are pretty good
Speaker:ways of telling that you have more sympathetic activation, more mobility
Speaker:in your system than you do to safety.
Speaker:We just want to balance those things out.
Speaker:So the first thing to do might be put music on, set an agenda
Speaker:for yourself and see how it goes.
Speaker:If it's still too much, get up and move, let out some of that energy and
Speaker:just kind of bring it down a notch.
Speaker:If you could do that, even mindfully, like if you go out for a walk to get
Speaker:some energy out, mindfully do it.
Speaker:Listen, look, smell all the, use your senses, smile at people, pet a dog, if
Speaker:you can not a stray one, ask permission, if it's, if it belongs to somebody else.
Speaker:But do these things to help your mobilization come down enough and your
Speaker:safety state to come up enough to balance out, then sit down with your achievements
Speaker:agenda with your bigger goal in mind and start knocking stuff off your list.
Speaker:So we got safety and we got sympathetic.
Speaker:Now let's look at the third primary state, which is shutdown.
Speaker:Shutdown occurs when we can't be safe.
Speaker:We can't run away.
Speaker:We can't fight.
Speaker:So the body goes into shutdown.
Speaker:It collapses.
Speaker:It plays dead basically in the face of a life threat.
Speaker:This is a necessary component of being alive.
Speaker:All of us, all organisms have some level of immobility which has helped them to
Speaker:survive over generations and generations and generations, passing their genetic
Speaker:material along to the next generation, which then uses it to survive and so on.
Speaker:So just normalize that it's a part of you.
Speaker:It's a part of me.
Speaker:It's a part of all of us.
Speaker:It's normal and it's okay.
Speaker:And we can actually use this to our advantage in our day to day life.
Speaker:I want you to view shutdown not as defeat and not as a defect.
Speaker:It's a necessary component.
Speaker:It is there because we need to collapse in our day to day life.
Speaker:We need to collapse and we need to restore.
Speaker:We need to get ready for the next day or the next project.
Speaker:It's an opportunity to rest and to reconnect with ourselves and with our
Speaker:environment and maybe with others.
Speaker:It's an opportunity.
Speaker:It's not defeat.
Speaker:So you've had a wonderful day of productivity, hopefully,
Speaker:or maybe a bad one, but.
Speaker:You've had a day of productivity at the end of the day, you need to collapse.
Speaker:You need to shut down maybe.
Speaker:When you do that, it prepares you for the next day.
Speaker:Think of this as a necessary component of your productivity or creativity cycle.
Speaker:We have to have periods of downtime.
Speaker:We have to have periods of rest and reconnection.
Speaker:That's all this is.
Speaker:You might spend a lot of time in shutdown and it looks like depression.
Speaker:I would say it is depression.
Speaker:You might spend a lot of time isolating yourself and okay, that's fine.
Speaker:That's fair.
Speaker:What that tells me is that you or all of us, if we're in the state,
Speaker:we need to listen to our body's needs, also incorporate more elements
Speaker:of safety into our daily life.
Speaker:And that might just be reconnecting using our senses to the external environment.
Speaker:If you have a lot of shutdown in your system, you probably
Speaker:need lower stimulation.
Speaker:You probably need more alone time, and you probably need to reconnect to the
Speaker:external environment using your senses.
Speaker:As you allow for that and give yourself true moments of recovery, not phone
Speaker:binging, not food, binging, not drugs, not fake it till you make it.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Not none of that stuff.
Speaker:When you give yourself true moments of rest and recovery, true moments
Speaker:of solitude and quiet, that is more restoring than anything else.
Speaker:So it's, it's okay to have that, to listen to your body's needs, to provide for it,
Speaker:and then to slowly come out of shutdown.
Speaker:And eventually you'll work your way into mobility, into some flight
Speaker:fight or sympathetic activation.
Speaker:If you have too much dorsal vagal activation or too much shutdown
Speaker:activation, you'll know it because you'll feel numb, you'll
Speaker:feel dissociative, you'll feel collapsed, you'll feel withdrawn.
Speaker:All that tells me there's, there's too much shutdown and not enough safety.
Speaker:Again, listen to your body's needs.
Speaker:Plowing through work and forcing your way into exercise and
Speaker:productivity and creativity.
Speaker:That's, that's fine, but it only lasts for so long.
Speaker:Eventually you simply burn out or you do collapse because you're not
Speaker:listening to what your body needs.
Speaker:Instead of searching for tons of mobility and productivity and creativity,
Speaker:instead of that strive for stillness.
Speaker:So we want to go from shutdown to stillness.
Speaker:Stillness is the combination of shutdown plus safety.
Speaker:Try to incorporate more elements of safety into your life mindfully.
Speaker:And then mindfully allow yourself to be in a shutdown state.
Speaker:When those two things combine, they create stillness.
Speaker:From stillness, then mobilization may emerge.
Speaker:I'm actually working on this right now for my, the Stucknaut Collective,
Speaker:the private community and courses.
Speaker:I created a course called Shutdown to Stillness, which teaches people
Speaker:how to go from shutdown, combine it with safety, and then into stillness.
Speaker:The next course I'm working on is called Stillness to Sympathetic, which
Speaker:teaches people how to go from stillness.
Speaker:And then to allow sympathetic mobility back into their system.
Speaker:I think that's a really good flow for how things should go.
Speaker:If you're not incorporating the safety aspect into your shutdown
Speaker:and resulting in stillness, uh, I, you might be setting yourself up
Speaker:for failure over and over again.
Speaker:The safety aspect aspect is kind of necessary.
Speaker:If you don't, then you might go from shutdown to flight fight.
Speaker:To shut down to flight fight and just kind of, um, circulate, circulate
Speaker:cycle back and forth between those two.
Speaker:So it might feel like deep depression.
Speaker:And then all of a sudden huge surges of fight activation probably might
Speaker:feel like a ton of anxiety as well, but more likely there's going to be
Speaker:some fight activation, irritability.
Speaker:anger, maybe rage.
Speaker:You're likely going to be going from depression to anger back and forth.
Speaker:That's when there's too much shutdown.
Speaker:There's another immobility option, which is freeze.
Speaker:And again, that's shutdown plus flight fight.
Speaker:Freeze is that dorsal vagal state plus flight fight.
Speaker:Freeze is different.
Speaker:It's not numbness and dissociation.
Speaker:It could be, but there's also elements of mobility within you.
Speaker:There's, there's activation.
Speaker:Freeze can also feel like stress and overwhelm, like a lot of overwhelm.
Speaker:It could feel like panic.
Speaker:It could feel like rage.
Speaker:So you need to connect with safety first which thaws the frozen
Speaker:flight fight activation and then use that flight fight activation
Speaker:toward creativity, productivity, exercise, whatever you want to do.
Speaker:You can reduce your fear through small, manageable steps.
Speaker:If you have a lot of freeze activation, then saying I'm going
Speaker:to create this wonderful slideshow all at once is not realistic.
Speaker:And it's probably going to reinforce your freeze because
Speaker:that's, that's overwhelming, but that's too much all at once.
Speaker:That's too much.
Speaker:That demands too much safety and that demands too much mobility.
Speaker:So instead we want to make those goals really small.
Speaker:It's great to want to create that painting or to want to go to the
Speaker:gym every day for 30 minutes.
Speaker:That that's great, but are you going to be able to do that today and tomorrow
Speaker:and then also sustain that long term?
Speaker:Maybe not.
Speaker:So instead of having that 30 minute goal, can you do a two minute goal
Speaker:in your home of lifting a weight?
Speaker:Can you have a goal of spending 30 seconds visualizing, working out?
Speaker:You got to start somewhere and we want to reduce the amount
Speaker:of fear as much as possible.
Speaker:If you can do that, you know, do those teeny tiny goals for a week and then add
Speaker:onto it, add onto the challenge by saying, well, yeah, I can visualize for 30 seconds
Speaker:per day for a week going to the gym.
Speaker:Can I now walk or drive myself to the gym to get out of my car, get
Speaker:back in my car and drive home?
Speaker:Can I do that for a week?
Speaker:And then a week after that, can I go into the gym and just stand
Speaker:there for a couple of minutes?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That sounds weird.
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:But you get the idea.
Speaker:We want to have small steps leading to the bigger goal.
Speaker:If you can accomplish the small steps, that's probably more likely from
Speaker:even from freeze than it is to give yourself that unreachable, huge goal.
Speaker:For shutdown.
Speaker:If you have earned that collapse at the end of the day, go ahead and collapse.
Speaker:Let yourself fall face first onto your bed.
Speaker:In quiet and just breathe and recover from the day.
Speaker:Hopefully you get the idea of these different states, how they show
Speaker:up and how you can utilize them.
Speaker:Now, how do we take what you know and implement it into your daily
Speaker:life in a way that works for you?
Speaker:I want you to streamline your efforts as much as possible.
Speaker:And I want you to make it easy to navigate through these various states and to use
Speaker:them in the most optimal way possible.
Speaker:So if you know more often than not you need to collapse and decompress,
Speaker:do you have a place to do that?
Speaker:Do you have a place that is ready for you?
Speaker:If not, then that might be a good place to start is to prepare for that.
Speaker:If you know that you want to be more productive and that involves reading
Speaker:and studying for a test maybe, is your book or your document ready to roll?
Speaker:Or do you have it in a backpack which is in your closet?
Speaker:Would it be more efficient for you to have that at a specific spot where you will do
Speaker:the most reading because it is the most stillness inducing spot in your home?
Speaker:Can you leave that paper or that book there?
Speaker:waiting for you versus going through the obstacles of backpack,
Speaker:closet, and across the house.
Speaker:If you have more mobility in your system, do you have the agenda or the structure?
Speaker:Do you have the achievement list that you can mark off as you achieve them?
Speaker:And if you do, is that list easily accessible?
Speaker:I personally write stuff on my, I have this big chalkboard.
Speaker:I turned a, uh, closet in the office into a chalkboard and storage area,
Speaker:but I use the chalkboard that has my priorities list listed and grouped to
Speaker:help me structure my time, to help me knock things off of my list and then
Speaker:to get my priorities done before I move on to the next things that I, I want to
Speaker:accomplish, which is like way too much.
Speaker:Uh, but this, this is helping me to focus my efforts.
Speaker:All I have to do is look up to my left and I will see my list of things to do.
Speaker:So if you have a list of things to do, is it easily accessible or
Speaker:is there an obstacle in the way?
Speaker:And an obstacle could even be like picking up your phone to look at your notes.
Speaker:That's great.
Speaker:But now you got to pick up your phone and I got to open that certain
Speaker:app to look at your, your notes.
Speaker:Is there an easier way to do it?
Speaker:Can you put it on post it notes and stick them on your screen?
Speaker:The basic idea here is if you know that you lean more into a certain state, do you
Speaker:have things set up so that you can easily make use of the potentials for that state?
Speaker:The other recommendation on how to optimize yourself is to practice
Speaker:feeling safe every single day.
Speaker:I would highly recommend you do it every day, and I don't think it has to be much.
Speaker:In the Stucknaut Collective private community, I do these
Speaker:things called a daily growth hub.
Speaker:And every day I give a challenge out to people.
Speaker:In the past couple weeks, I've been focusing on giving out really small
Speaker:challenges that require no more than two minutes of mindfulness.
Speaker:One of those things was pick the same spot at the same time every
Speaker:day, set an alarm or timer for two minutes and do a two minutes, up
Speaker:to two minutes, it could be less.
Speaker:Up to two minutes mindfulness exercise where you just listen
Speaker:and feel and look inward and connect with the external world.
Speaker:Just some mindfulness meditative practice for two minutes.
Speaker:And that was for one week.
Speaker:The next week we did one where it was, you set an alarm for every day
Speaker:for five days and you set that alarm for a different time every day.
Speaker:When the alarm goes off, same thing.
Speaker:Spend two up to two minutes.
Speaker:noticing or being mindful of being mindful.
Speaker:One of my alarms went off when I was in CVS.
Speaker:And so I used two minutes to walk up and down the aisles and to
Speaker:touch things and to smell candles and just connect the environment.
Speaker:The, another alarm went off when I was at my friend's house.
Speaker:We were doing a Dungeons and Dragons campaign with our kids, and it was
Speaker:unbelievably difficult to be mindful because we were having so much fun.
Speaker:So it didn't work out that way.
Speaker:at that moment, but later on that night when he and I were hanging
Speaker:out, uh, chatting under the stars at his beautiful ranch in the, at
Speaker:nighttime and just, you know, talking.
Speaker:I use that as a time to be mindful of the absolute serenity of that moment.
Speaker:I would encourage you to do something like that.
Speaker:Every day.
Speaker:No, it does not solve all your problems.
Speaker:I know that, but it starts to create that predictability.
Speaker:It starts to create a reference point for safety.
Speaker:And if you can do 30 seconds, you can do two minutes.
Speaker:If you could do two minutes, all of a sudden, well, now what else
Speaker:can you accomplish after that?
Speaker:The last recommendation I have for you in your daily life to focus on productivity
Speaker:and creativity and motivation is to look inward and notice what state you're in.
Speaker:Do you have more mobility or less?
Speaker:Do you have more collapse or less?
Speaker:Do you have more potential to connect or less?
Speaker:Look inward and just, just notice for now, just notice what you have more or
Speaker:less of throughout the day if you can.
Speaker:And if you can do that, then you can ask yourself, what can I accomplish from this
Speaker:level of activation or lack of activation?
Speaker:What can I accomplish?
Speaker:What's the best I can do in this moment?
Speaker:Is this a time for me to collapse and be okay with it for five minutes?
Speaker:Or is this a time for me to look at my, my list of achievements and
Speaker:start knocking things off one by one?
Speaker:Or is this a chance for me to take a break and go hug my kids and say, I
Speaker:love you and then get back to work?
Speaker:Thank you so much for joining me here on Stuck Not Broken.
Speaker:I hope this episode has helped you to look at what your potentials are throughout
Speaker:the day, and then how to apply those potentials to what you want to get
Speaker:done, to what your bigger goals are day to day or even bigger goals in life.
Speaker:I gave you a bunch of stuff you can work on day to day.
Speaker:Um, but I also have a resource for you.
Speaker:It's a free resource and to make it as simple as possible, I got to do is
Speaker:click on the link in the description and you'll get that download right away.
Speaker:You don't have to go anywhere else for it.
Speaker:You click the link and you'll get the download.
Speaker:It's my SSIEC sheet.
Speaker:That stands for state sensation, impulse, emotion, and cognition.
Speaker:This lays out what your polyvagal states are and what the experiences are from
Speaker:those states or the potential experiences.
Speaker:This can help you to get more language or to better identify what state you're in.
Speaker:And then if you could do that, then you can ask yourself,
Speaker:well, what can I accomplish?
Speaker:What does my body need at this moment?
Speaker:What can I accomplish from this state?
Speaker:So click on that link and you'll get the download right away.
Speaker:I have a ton of other resources.
Speaker:If you want that, click on the link in the description and that'll take
Speaker:you to the free member center where I've collected all that stuff for you.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:That's it again.
Speaker:Thank you so much for listening and bye.
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