1 00:00:01,380 --> 00:00:04,260 Janice Porter: Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's 2 00:00:04,290 --> 00:00:08,730 episode of relationships rule. My guest this week is Cory, 3 00:00:08,730 --> 00:00:13,920 Cory. And Cory and I have spoken before on my podcast and 4 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:18,270 checking back, it was just over two years ago, January episode 5 00:00:18,270 --> 00:00:24,180 143, when I got to know Corey and all of his work, and, and 6 00:00:24,180 --> 00:00:27,030 now I'm so happy to have him back because he has a new book 7 00:00:27,030 --> 00:00:31,080 that is fascinating that we want to talk about. And first of all, 8 00:00:31,170 --> 00:00:32,550 I'm going to welcome you to the show. 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,060 Corey Poirier: Well, thank you so much. So excited to be here. 10 00:00:36,390 --> 00:00:39,840 Janice Porter: Thank you. And second, to just reiterate just 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:46,200 briefly, the the wealth of your career from stand up comedy, to 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,130 TEDx speaker to teaching other people how to be TEDx speakers, 13 00:00:50,130 --> 00:00:56,250 to being an author to being a podcast host, and being 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,870 recognized in Success Magazine, being I don't know. So 15 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:05,730 interviewing over like, 7000, of the world's top leaders. And I 16 00:01:05,730 --> 00:01:10,650 think all of this is now come in combination with this new book, 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,300 right? The Enlightened passenger, as it's called, it's 18 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:19,200 not even out yet, right? It's the Enlightened passenger, the 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,200 flight that changes everything is the name of your new book, 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,420 and I congratulate you on it. Tell me a little bit about 21 00:01:27,660 --> 00:01:30,570 because I read it, and I loved it. And it reminded me have some 22 00:01:30,570 --> 00:01:33,960 other things. But I have quit until I have questions. But tell 23 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:39,630 me how long has that been brewing for you? And how did it 24 00:01:39,630 --> 00:01:40,440 take shape? 25 00:01:41,940 --> 00:01:44,790 Corey Poirier: So the brewing, I mean, it kind of both ties 26 00:01:44,790 --> 00:01:48,870 together. But the word brewing, if I looked at it from 27 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:52,020 perspective of before I started actually writing it, because 28 00:01:52,020 --> 00:01:56,700 that was an actual timeline. It was about a year. So from the 29 00:01:56,700 --> 00:02:01,200 point where I said, I have this idea, to the point where I 30 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,360 started working on that idea. That was about a year. So I knew 31 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,310 what I'll say it this way, I knew what the ending was going 32 00:02:08,310 --> 00:02:13,020 to be, before I knew anything else about the book. So it was 33 00:02:13,020 --> 00:02:16,230 kind of written, Quentin Tarantino, for those that 34 00:02:16,230 --> 00:02:20,220 familiar with him as a director and writer, he had this habit of 35 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:22,950 kind of writing, starting with the end of the movie, and then 36 00:02:22,950 --> 00:02:26,340 working his way back. And I would say that this book was 37 00:02:26,340 --> 00:02:29,790 kind of written like that. Like, again, I started with the end in 38 00:02:29,790 --> 00:02:33,630 mind and work my way back. That started a year, a year before 39 00:02:33,630 --> 00:02:37,080 any words started coming to life. Now, every now and then I 40 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,600 would think, Oh, you know what I should do? You know, I should do 41 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,330 this, oh, I should add this. But it was just more like in my 42 00:02:42,330 --> 00:02:47,160 head, here's what I'd like to do. And my wife kept saying, are 43 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,990 you ever going to write that book he told me about, like, she 44 00:02:48,990 --> 00:02:51,720 didn't know much about it. She just knew the ending as well, as 45 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:54,750 ever gonna write that book? And I said, Yeah, I think so. And 46 00:02:55,530 --> 00:03:01,290 eventually, I finally decided that it was time and we went on 47 00:03:01,290 --> 00:03:06,000 a family vacation for two weeks at a cottage by the water and I 48 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,860 don't swim, and her and the kids swim. So I, she said, you know, 49 00:03:10,860 --> 00:03:13,380 while we're swimming, either gonna sit in the beach or you 50 00:03:13,380 --> 00:03:15,180 sit in the room, it doesn't matter. But why don't you work 51 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,210 that book. So I wrote the first half of the book on that 52 00:03:18,210 --> 00:03:20,910 vacation. And then I never touched it for another few 53 00:03:20,910 --> 00:03:23,790 months. And then I tinker and put six pages together. So it 54 00:03:23,790 --> 00:03:28,200 took me about another year. From the point where I started typing 55 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,440 until the book was I'll call it first draft complete. The one 56 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,960 thing that was different about this book than anything else 57 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,860 I've ever written, Janice is that once I hit that, that mark, 58 00:03:38,670 --> 00:03:41,700 interestingly, I had a beta group. So everything about the 59 00:03:41,700 --> 00:03:44,280 book I've done in kind of like a very intentional pattern. It 60 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,470 wasn't just like, let's write a book, put it out in the world, 61 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:50,250 and hope it does well. And it was like, let's find out if it's 62 00:03:50,250 --> 00:03:52,890 a good book, or if it needs to be changed or where it's good. 63 00:03:52,950 --> 00:03:57,090 So I got a beta group together, but 25 to 30. People sent them 64 00:03:57,090 --> 00:04:01,020 the book. And essentially, I gave them sort of instructions. 65 00:04:01,020 --> 00:04:04,230 And I said, I'm not looking for grammar, right. I will tell you, 66 00:04:04,230 --> 00:04:06,960 I still got back three or four. I used to be a retired teacher 67 00:04:06,990 --> 00:04:10,470 or a teacher. And that's me, I get it, I get it. Yes, I still 68 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:13,200 have to tell you these 50 things you need to change. But I made 69 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,230 it clear, we hadn't edited it yet. Like we had a I'll call it. 70 00:04:16,830 --> 00:04:19,410 I don't even know the terms like a line edit, like not aligned at 71 00:04:19,410 --> 00:04:21,420 it. But like a proof editor or whatever, where it's just like, 72 00:04:21,450 --> 00:04:23,730 go through a quick and make sure you catch on the most obvious 73 00:04:23,730 --> 00:04:29,220 stuff. And so we sent it out. And here's where it was kind of 74 00:04:29,220 --> 00:04:31,260 interesting or fascinating to me, because it was unlike 75 00:04:31,260 --> 00:04:34,950 anything else I've ever done. Most of the comments were, I 76 00:04:34,950 --> 00:04:37,470 mean, there were some obviously exceptions, but most of the 77 00:04:37,470 --> 00:04:44,010 comments were either I noticed a lot of grammar, but fix that and 78 00:04:44,010 --> 00:04:47,580 the book is ready. Or I didn't even care about the grammar get 79 00:04:47,580 --> 00:04:51,030 this book in print so I can hold up my hands. And that was 80 00:04:51,030 --> 00:04:54,810 fascinating to me, because that was my first draft. And I'm used 81 00:04:54,810 --> 00:04:57,720 to the idea that you should write a crappy book before you 82 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,080 write a good book. And then a good Book and edit it well, 83 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,320 before it becomes a great book, I'm not used to the idea of 84 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,390 sending a book out, and most people saying I wouldn't change 85 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:10,980 anything. That was really weird to me. And I'll tell you not 86 00:05:10,980 --> 00:05:15,480 that it's backed by any science. But the best I can figure is, it 87 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,900 feels like the book was channeled through me. So feels 88 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:22,350 like maybe getting this taken care of by whoever, whatever 89 00:05:22,350 --> 00:05:24,750 higher power, whatever you believe in. That said to me, 90 00:05:24,750 --> 00:05:27,540 here's a gift, because it was different than any other my 91 00:05:27,540 --> 00:05:30,810 writing now I wrote it, I sat there thinking of ideas. I 92 00:05:30,810 --> 00:05:34,500 remember the times writing it, like, all that stuff was me. But 93 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:38,880 I feel like it was a gift that somebody kind of gave me a story 94 00:05:39,060 --> 00:05:40,830 that I could make complete quite easily. 95 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:45,870 Janice Porter: Okay, so just for my audience to understand this 96 00:05:45,870 --> 00:05:52,020 book, The Enlightened passenger. To me, it's the same kind of 97 00:05:52,380 --> 00:05:56,460 feeling the kind of book, like it's a parable, right? It's 98 00:05:56,460 --> 00:06:01,500 like, it's like, I think of Bob Berg, the Go Giver, which was a 99 00:06:01,500 --> 00:06:07,170 parable I think of. There's I can't remember St. John's, John, 100 00:06:07,380 --> 00:06:10,140 I think he's got two last names. It was a book about network, the 101 00:06:10,140 --> 00:06:13,410 best network marketer in the world, there was a story, but I 102 00:06:13,410 --> 00:06:18,060 can't remember I've got it in like PDF version in an envelope 103 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:21,900 somewhere. And I didn't find it in time to remember but same 104 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:26,040 type of thing. And then Augmentee know who you reference 105 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,360 in the book. So it's a, it's a story with lessons, right for 106 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,730 life. And I'm guessing that and so let's go into this piece, I 107 00:06:35,730 --> 00:06:40,320 want to hear about this. But I'm guessing that all of these 108 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:46,590 amazing thought leaders and thought leaders that you have 109 00:06:46,590 --> 00:06:53,130 met and interviewed over the years, the Bob Proctor's of the 110 00:06:53,130 --> 00:06:57,330 world, the Jack Canfield of the world, the Lisa Nichols of the 111 00:06:57,330 --> 00:07:01,800 world, those amazing people. And there's a list of suggested 112 00:07:02,970 --> 00:07:06,030 Celeste is reading list at the end of the book. And I'm sure 113 00:07:06,030 --> 00:07:08,910 that that's including all of those amazing people that you 114 00:07:08,910 --> 00:07:12,210 have interviewed, that must have brought the inspiration 115 00:07:12,210 --> 00:07:14,880 somewhere. I don't know, like, Tell me about that. 116 00:07:16,140 --> 00:07:18,600 Corey Poirier: Yeah, so I mean, when I mentioned like, I feel 117 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,690 like, it's weird, because sometimes when we say channeled, 118 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,600 channeled like, I'm a songwriter, as well. And when I 119 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,780 was 12 years of age, I wrote my first song, I didn't know this 120 00:07:27,780 --> 00:07:30,630 sounds so weird to me. But there's a difference in chords 121 00:07:30,630 --> 00:07:34,860 and music, power chords, and like regular country or records. 122 00:07:35,130 --> 00:07:37,230 Regular country, or rock chords would be your regular chords, 123 00:07:37,230 --> 00:07:42,150 people know that ABC, whatever, is like those chords. Well, they 124 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:45,270 also are played as a power chord when you play in rock music. So 125 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:47,430 it's just a different way to play them to have them feel a 126 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:50,940 different way and sound different. And I wrote the song 127 00:07:50,940 --> 00:07:55,050 when I was 12, where I use power chords, but yet I hadn't learned 128 00:07:55,050 --> 00:07:59,130 power chords yet. But they were all correct. Meaning like, How 129 00:07:59,130 --> 00:08:02,970 can I learn something I didn't know write a song, using this 130 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,640 formation of chords that I still didn't know until a year later. 131 00:08:05,940 --> 00:08:08,940 And so that was channeled, truly channeled, I believe, like, the 132 00:08:08,940 --> 00:08:12,090 whole song came out, I was 12. And this song like we've had, 133 00:08:12,090 --> 00:08:15,450 it's been on the radio, like the song was, well, like it was well 134 00:08:15,450 --> 00:08:17,820 received. And yet, it was written in minutes by a guy who 135 00:08:17,820 --> 00:08:20,520 shouldn't have been able to write the songs. So I feel like 136 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,340 that's one form of channel, this one here. I feel like it was 137 00:08:23,340 --> 00:08:26,040 almost like, we're giving you the inspiration, the story, but 138 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,140 you still have to peek pieces together. So I just wanted to 139 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:32,160 clarify. So the reason I bring that up is because obviously, if 140 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,580 the entire book was channeled through me, then you wouldn't 141 00:08:35,580 --> 00:08:38,820 have the stories about Lisa Nichols or Les Brown, because 142 00:08:38,820 --> 00:08:42,420 those are my stories right? channel wouldn't put back in the 143 00:08:42,420 --> 00:08:45,690 book. And then at the same time, the characters which I didn't 144 00:08:45,690 --> 00:08:48,810 realize this until I was pretty much a year after writing 145 00:08:48,810 --> 00:08:51,540 because the finished of that, as it took about another year 146 00:08:51,540 --> 00:08:55,530 before it got to this stage. It's at now. And so what I 147 00:08:55,530 --> 00:08:58,140 realized quite a while after I wrote it is I'm the two 148 00:08:58,140 --> 00:09:05,220 characters. Well. Everybody else thought, Oh, really, I knew I 149 00:09:05,220 --> 00:09:07,590 was taken from pieces of my life and making it loosely based on 150 00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:09,990 my life. But I didn't clue in that I was fully both 151 00:09:09,990 --> 00:09:13,050 characters. I think what it was is Treb, who is the older 152 00:09:13,050 --> 00:09:15,450 character who's the guy that's been on the journey and all that 153 00:09:15,540 --> 00:09:18,180 I felt that was closer to him because I'd lived the journey. 154 00:09:18,330 --> 00:09:22,680 But I realized that I actually wrote the young, somewhat 155 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:25,320 slightly arrogant guy and I wasn't arrogant, but I wasn't. I 156 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,270 thought I knew it all. I didn't know about personal development. 157 00:09:27,450 --> 00:09:30,420 I didn't realize that base them on me. Now the interesting part 158 00:09:30,420 --> 00:09:34,200 of it that is his career is he basically sells devices like 159 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,050 photo copiers and stuff for a living. And I sold photo copiers 160 00:09:37,050 --> 00:09:39,450 for a living for tenure. So like it should be all clear and 161 00:09:39,450 --> 00:09:44,400 obvious. Having said that, so the book obviously even if I 162 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,320 said it was channeled through me, it could only be the story 163 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,800 because the rest of it is all taking for my wife, Shelley. My 164 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,950 wife is really Gina like it's literally loosely based on my 165 00:09:52,950 --> 00:09:58,440 life. And to answer your question, the part of me as I 166 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,750 was writing it, and again, I know I was like, which came 167 00:10:00,750 --> 00:10:04,020 first the chicken or the egg? I don't know, if I said, You know 168 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:07,500 what I should work in the stories from my life, or if I 169 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:09,540 created the story, and then I was like, You know what would 170 00:10:09,540 --> 00:10:11,940 fit here? And I just pulled a story from my life. I'm not sure 171 00:10:11,940 --> 00:10:15,540 which I don't know how much was intentional. But to answer your 172 00:10:15,540 --> 00:10:19,080 kind of your question, the way the books written parts of my 173 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,690 life, for instance, like I interviewed Les Brown in 174 00:10:21,690 --> 00:10:25,080 Atlanta, in his living room, and I asked him what synchronicity 175 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,630 means to him. And he said, synchronicity is God's way of 176 00:10:27,630 --> 00:10:30,510 staying anonymous. Now, I think that was somebody else's quote, 177 00:10:30,510 --> 00:10:32,820 but hearing it from less makes it taste cold, you know, like, 178 00:10:32,820 --> 00:10:37,440 it's just the way he speaks is different. And so last said that 179 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:44,550 to me, and in the book Treb, the older character talks. Yeah. And 180 00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:48,720 he talks about how he was backstage with less at an event, 181 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,940 and asked less about synchronicity, and lesson 182 00:10:50,940 --> 00:10:53,430 synchronicity is God's way of staying anonymous. So what I'm 183 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:57,510 getting at is almost everything in the book is a fictionalized 184 00:10:57,510 --> 00:10:58,830 version of what really happened. 185 00:10:59,910 --> 00:11:02,520 Janice Porter: Well, now that's really interesting, because I, 186 00:11:02,850 --> 00:11:08,280 when I was reading it thought that you and this is totally 187 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,740 different to what you just said, I thought that you were 188 00:11:11,970 --> 00:11:19,560 included. Out of nowhere, okay. That's okay, stuff happens. I 189 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:25,050 thought that this was your way of modernizing. And these 190 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:31,110 lessons that we have heard before, right, because nothing's 191 00:11:31,110 --> 00:11:34,140 new. It's just, you know, it's a new audience or a new way of 192 00:11:34,140 --> 00:11:36,360 saying it. But you know, we're talking about what is 193 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:41,640 synchronicity, we're talking about what is attitude of 194 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:46,260 gratitude, or we're talking about saying no, all of these 195 00:11:46,260 --> 00:11:50,130 things, we hear them over time from different people, different 196 00:11:50,130 --> 00:11:55,860 thought leaders in their own way. And I thought this was put 197 00:11:55,860 --> 00:12:00,150 in on purpose to modernize it with these modern thought 198 00:12:00,150 --> 00:12:00,780 leaders. 199 00:12:02,010 --> 00:12:05,970 Corey Poirier: So here's the million dollar question, was it 200 00:12:06,330 --> 00:12:11,520 but on an unconscious level? or unconscious, they say is 95%. 201 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,540 Right? What we do? So I'd say either way you say it, it was 202 00:12:15,540 --> 00:12:18,150 done that way. But I don't know who did it. It was very 203 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,950 unconscious. Corey said again, I honestly am saying like, I don't 204 00:12:22,950 --> 00:12:25,890 remember, it may have been me intentionally saying, This is 205 00:12:25,890 --> 00:12:29,520 why I'm going to do this. But it feels like I was writing. And 206 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,530 then I was like, Oh, this should go here. This should go here. 207 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:36,270 But I will say it was intended for me to share the life lessons 208 00:12:36,270 --> 00:12:37,950 I've learned during those interviews. That part was 209 00:12:37,950 --> 00:12:41,190 intentional. It was intended that like, I've been 7500 210 00:12:41,190 --> 00:12:43,110 interviews with all these thought leaders, I wanted to 211 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:47,700 share this, but share it in a way that I was maybe introducing 212 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:50,910 this modern thought leader to the world, but through the eyes 213 00:12:50,910 --> 00:12:56,760 and lens of this character. Ultimately, I didn't really I 214 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,870 don't think realize as I was doing it, how true to life I was 215 00:13:00,870 --> 00:13:03,420 bringing it, if that makes sense. So like when I do like, 216 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,270 oh, you know, he should have met last year instead of lessons 217 00:13:06,270 --> 00:13:09,990 house. And I didn't realize, after I went with all them 218 00:13:09,990 --> 00:13:12,780 together, it was like, Oh, these are all stuff that actually 219 00:13:12,780 --> 00:13:16,950 happened like so. Lisa Nichols, I share in there that he in an 220 00:13:16,950 --> 00:13:19,170 interview with tribes, so tribe interviewed her, so that hurts 221 00:13:19,170 --> 00:13:23,550 me scared that we shouldn't feel from our cup when it's full, 222 00:13:23,700 --> 00:13:26,400 which is counter to what we always hear when she says we 223 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,920 should build from our cup when it's overflowing into a saucer. 224 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,710 And the thinking there is if you continually fell for your cup, 225 00:13:31,710 --> 00:13:34,230 when you're full, it means you're gonna do 100% And then 226 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:36,660 you're giving away right away. So you're never staying at 100%. 227 00:13:36,810 --> 00:13:39,420 What she's saying is make sure you're full, and you're ready to 228 00:13:39,420 --> 00:13:43,140 share, and then share, which is just a unique approach to what 229 00:13:43,140 --> 00:13:46,110 we've always heard. And so I share that as if Lisa shared 230 00:13:46,110 --> 00:13:48,480 that with tribe in the story. Well, again, Lisa shared that 231 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,150 with me, but I didn't put it at the same setting. I didn't put 232 00:13:51,150 --> 00:13:53,700 it the same time. Tribe is obviously meant to be a little 233 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:56,790 older than me. Like there. There are some elements that have been 234 00:13:56,790 --> 00:14:00,510 changed. But I think what you're saying I think there is was an 235 00:14:00,510 --> 00:14:04,980 unconscious level to let's, let's share the same lessons I 236 00:14:04,980 --> 00:14:09,630 learned from thinking Grow Rich, in modern way now. But the one 237 00:14:09,630 --> 00:14:13,650 thing that is is factual I can say for sure is the 10 lessons 238 00:14:13,650 --> 00:14:17,250 that are ultimately shared are ones I learned directly from 239 00:14:17,250 --> 00:14:20,730 these thought leaders meaning Yes, thinking Grow Rich Napoleon 240 00:14:20,730 --> 00:14:24,330 Hill talks, some similar ones. But these are shared from how I 241 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:27,030 learned them. So I, I learned it from Napoleon Hill, but then I 242 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:29,760 went out and learn them on my own, but doing these interviews, 243 00:14:29,910 --> 00:14:32,700 and spending time with thought leaders, and so they are the 10 244 00:14:32,700 --> 00:14:35,790 things that I basically decided that's how I looked at it. These 245 00:14:35,790 --> 00:14:39,000 are the 10 things if you lock me in the room for 24 hours with my 246 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,750 two young sons, and I can only 10 lessons before I died. These 247 00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:46,350 are the times ones I teach them. So like Les Brown or Les Brown, 248 00:14:46,530 --> 00:14:49,530 Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich doesn't put a word on 249 00:14:49,530 --> 00:14:52,200 synchronicity doesn't really even use the words meaningful 250 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,930 coincidences, like he really doesn't talk about. He talks 251 00:14:54,930 --> 00:14:58,140 about intuition, but he doesn't go into what we know now or what 252 00:14:58,140 --> 00:15:00,810 we could find a synchronicity. He doesn't talk connote things 253 00:15:00,810 --> 00:15:03,510 that happen you'd like, Well, how could that happen? So the 254 00:15:03,510 --> 00:15:06,120 synchronicity park with me teaching is not something I took 255 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,330 from thinking Grow Rich. In fact, what that's from is I 256 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,300 worked with James Redfield, who wrote the self esteem prophecy 257 00:15:12,450 --> 00:15:17,070 on a project. And James really, at the end of the day, Carl 258 00:15:17,070 --> 00:15:18,750 Jung, they said, it's kind of like the one who coined 259 00:15:18,750 --> 00:15:21,060 synchronicity, but James I'll say is the one that made it 260 00:15:21,060 --> 00:15:23,940 famous, you know, he so 40 million books, synchronous 261 00:15:23,940 --> 00:15:26,940 became a thing because of, in a lot of ways, His teachings. And 262 00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:29,370 so I get to study at the feet of the person that kind of shared 263 00:15:29,370 --> 00:15:32,820 it with the world. So what I'm getting at is that these are not 264 00:15:32,820 --> 00:15:35,910 like a carbon copy of even thinking grow rich, but it's 265 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:39,180 that same type of vein of let's share the stories from a modern 266 00:15:39,180 --> 00:15:41,850 lens. And let's also fictionalize it, so that it's a 267 00:15:41,850 --> 00:15:44,640 parable. So now it's a full complete story where I can 268 00:15:44,850 --> 00:15:47,430 actually have you learning without realizing you're 269 00:15:47,460 --> 00:15:48,060 learning, 270 00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:51,420 Janice Porter: ya know, that that's what makes it so easy to 271 00:15:51,420 --> 00:15:56,130 read. And, and I think to share with others, I think it's the 272 00:15:56,130 --> 00:15:59,370 kind of book you would you and you'll love this. It's the kind 273 00:15:59,370 --> 00:16:01,590 of book you would buy for someone and give it to them. 274 00:16:01,620 --> 00:16:08,610 Right? I think that it really is. I think about all of these 275 00:16:08,610 --> 00:16:14,100 people that you have interviewed over the years, and I do I 276 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:17,040 probably asked you this before I don't know but cuz I didn't 277 00:16:17,070 --> 00:16:21,840 finish listening to our last interview, to be honest, to to 278 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,750 ask to see if I did ask you this before because I like to be 279 00:16:24,750 --> 00:16:32,340 fresh. Okay, but how did you position yourself for example, 280 00:16:32,340 --> 00:16:35,700 like, how did you get to interview Lisa Nicole, how did 281 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:39,630 you get to you know, do that project with James forgot his 282 00:16:39,630 --> 00:16:45,660 last name? Like, Celeste, celestial self esteem prophecy? 283 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,790 Corey Poirier: What is it? Redfield? 284 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,310 Janice Porter: Redfield? Yeah, I had that book, but I remember 285 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:53,010 trying to read it, and I found it difficult to read. So that 286 00:16:53,010 --> 00:16:53,940 was a long time ago. 287 00:16:54,450 --> 00:16:58,110 Corey Poirier: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'll say, This is my 288 00:16:58,140 --> 00:17:00,780 take on that. I think sometimes books, we're ready for them when 289 00:17:00,780 --> 00:17:03,600 we're ready. And sometimes we're not. And so for me, the book you 290 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,170 just defined is the Power of Now, Eckhart Tolle 291 00:17:08,369 --> 00:17:12,299 Janice Porter: Vancouver. Speaking here, just next month, 292 00:17:12,299 --> 00:17:14,609 I think, yeah, well, he lives here. Right. But 293 00:17:16,019 --> 00:17:18,509 Corey Poirier: yeah, so for his books, I have a hard time 294 00:17:18,539 --> 00:17:21,749 getting into them. I mean, I like his teachings, I believe in 295 00:17:21,749 --> 00:17:25,289 His message. I've watched his talks. And but so what you said 296 00:17:25,289 --> 00:17:28,019 about celsion? So what I would say is, excuse me, it might be 297 00:17:28,019 --> 00:17:31,349 worth trying, again, because it's all different times, I 298 00:17:31,349 --> 00:17:35,039 think, the Pulisic. To answer your question, though, there, 299 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:37,859 it's interesting. You weren't, you were the word you use there 300 00:17:37,859 --> 00:17:40,529 for a minute was position. So how did you position yourself 301 00:17:40,529 --> 00:17:45,359 to. And it's fascinating to me, because a lot of it in the years 302 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,349 recent has been positioning, a lot of that in the years, early 303 00:17:49,349 --> 00:17:51,479 on for how I started interviewing some big name 304 00:17:51,479 --> 00:17:56,549 thought leaders, was a mixture between strategy. And then the 305 00:17:56,549 --> 00:17:59,699 other side, though, it which is the part that's not sexy, and 306 00:17:59,699 --> 00:18:04,079 nobody wants to hear is investing and depositing into 307 00:18:04,079 --> 00:18:07,469 the relationship before ever asking for anything. And so I 308 00:18:07,469 --> 00:18:09,779 heard this great quote in the last two weeks, and I probably 309 00:18:09,779 --> 00:18:13,199 shared it 12 times since it's why some people would know this 310 00:18:13,199 --> 00:18:15,269 guy, some people wouldn't, but a guy named Alex or Mozi. 311 00:18:15,749 --> 00:18:18,029 Janice Porter: And he's, I've heard of them, but I don't know 312 00:18:18,029 --> 00:18:19,499 about a sport. Okay, 313 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:21,150 Corey Poirier: if you're having a really big name in the 314 00:18:21,150 --> 00:18:24,900 affiliate marketing space, world. So here's this quote, 315 00:18:25,050 --> 00:18:29,430 that he said, the longer you delay your ask, the bigger your 316 00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:36,960 ask can be. Oh, so in other words, if you stop the process, 317 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,250 Janice Porter: because that, to me goes right to building 318 00:18:41,250 --> 00:18:42,630 relationships. 319 00:18:44,009 --> 00:18:47,129 Corey Poirier: Agreed? No, that's, that's what I that's the 320 00:18:47,129 --> 00:18:50,939 intention, how I viewed it. And I think that's how he meant it. 321 00:18:50,939 --> 00:18:53,099 But I'm not sure because I heard it through a person who said, 322 00:18:53,099 --> 00:18:56,159 Alex just said this on his podcast. But for me, what it 323 00:18:56,159 --> 00:19:00,179 means is, if I meet, let's say, I'll give real world examples, 324 00:19:00,179 --> 00:19:04,049 but like when I met Mark Victor Hansen, so I met Mark, years 325 00:19:04,049 --> 00:19:08,909 ago, interviewed him, and then never conversed again for like 326 00:19:08,909 --> 00:19:12,839 two more years. And then I reached out, and he remembered 327 00:19:12,839 --> 00:19:16,769 that I interviewed him. And then we did another interview. And by 328 00:19:16,769 --> 00:19:20,249 the time we did the third or fourth interview, he said to me, 329 00:19:20,249 --> 00:19:23,249 said, you know, Corey, Preston on I was during COVID. We're 330 00:19:23,249 --> 00:19:25,709 launching, we just launched our book, this was on the air. He 331 00:19:25,709 --> 00:19:28,169 said, Do you know of other podcasters you could connect me 332 00:19:28,169 --> 00:19:29,909 with because we're just trying to get on as many shows as we 333 00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:32,189 can, but we're looking for bigger shows or whatever. 334 00:19:32,399 --> 00:19:35,819 Anyway, and so about within about a week, I introduced him 335 00:19:35,819 --> 00:19:40,649 to 25 top 1% podcasts, and then he I think he kind of went okay 336 00:19:40,649 --> 00:19:44,969 enough. Like we're flooded now. Okay. But my point of that is, 337 00:19:44,999 --> 00:19:47,939 is some people would say I'll do that and never act some people 338 00:19:47,939 --> 00:19:50,729 would say sure. I well in San Juan, I kind of went a little 339 00:19:50,729 --> 00:19:53,639 intense and but I mean, I was I was actually saying it's a good 340 00:19:53,639 --> 00:19:56,429 fit for them, but also the host I'm sending it to would love to 341 00:19:56,429 --> 00:19:59,969 have a guy who sold 600 million books on who's impacted how many 342 00:19:59,999 --> 00:20:03,809 lives. And so I got them on their shows. Then we were 343 00:20:03,809 --> 00:20:05,999 working on a documentary, I reached out and said, Hey, if 344 00:20:05,999 --> 00:20:07,889 some of your friends are in this, would you want to be in 345 00:20:07,889 --> 00:20:10,679 this? I'd actually this a great lesson right here about how to 346 00:20:10,679 --> 00:20:13,679 get thought leaders on your side. I didn't say some of your 347 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:17,009 friends I said, I think you know, some of the people and at 348 00:20:17,009 --> 00:20:20,609 the time, they were really busy. And he said, right now we're not 349 00:20:20,609 --> 00:20:23,129 able to do anything. And it was I was asking about another 350 00:20:23,129 --> 00:20:25,409 interview. And I said, no worries, it was just like a 351 00:20:25,409 --> 00:20:27,959 random Hey, did you want to do this? But anyway, I said, Does 352 00:20:27,959 --> 00:20:29,879 that also go for the documentary? Like, I just want 353 00:20:29,879 --> 00:20:32,279 to make sure I'm not pestering? And he was, oh, no, no, we want 354 00:20:32,279 --> 00:20:36,059 to be in the project with our friends. And that's a key 355 00:20:36,059 --> 00:20:38,789 takeaway right there with our friends, which I'll tell you in 356 00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:41,609 a second how I use strategy around that. But to finish the 357 00:20:41,609 --> 00:20:45,209 story, so I did the documentary thing with Mark, then I brought 358 00:20:45,209 --> 00:20:47,939 him in to do an event and I paid him to do the event at this 359 00:20:47,939 --> 00:20:49,859 point, even though I said, Hey, do you want to be in the 360 00:20:49,859 --> 00:20:52,499 documentary? That's not really an ask. I'm saying, Hey, can I 361 00:20:52,499 --> 00:20:55,229 highlight you in a project that may go to netflix and be seen by 362 00:20:55,229 --> 00:20:57,839 millions of people? It's still a gift, not a gift, but you don't 363 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:02,699 I mean, it's a gift. And so finally, I asked Mark, and 364 00:21:02,729 --> 00:21:05,339 there's a couple of things since then. But one of the things I 365 00:21:05,339 --> 00:21:10,019 asked recently was about this book. So I said, Mark, would you 366 00:21:10,019 --> 00:21:12,959 be willing to endorse the book? I didn't tell him this. This is 367 00:21:12,959 --> 00:21:16,259 kind of news now. But I was trying to decide between Mark 368 00:21:16,289 --> 00:21:18,959 and Richard Paul Evans around the forward, like who I wanted 369 00:21:18,959 --> 00:21:21,269 to approach on the foreword, Richard ended up writing the 370 00:21:21,269 --> 00:21:24,659 foreword, I think it was a good fit, because he talks about how 371 00:21:24,659 --> 00:21:26,999 he wanted to meet Augmon Dino when he was younger, and he sat 372 00:21:26,999 --> 00:21:28,919 across in a mall, but he wouldn't go approach him and, 373 00:21:29,519 --> 00:21:32,669 and then he said, you know, he finds this book reminds him of 374 00:21:32,669 --> 00:21:35,309 bog. And then if you remember, in the foreword, which I get 375 00:21:35,309 --> 00:21:38,189 goosebumps saying it now somebody has had 46, New York 376 00:21:38,189 --> 00:21:41,069 Times bestsellers. He said, I'm kind of jealous, because I wish 377 00:21:41,069 --> 00:21:44,819 I wrote this book. Yes, he did. So I think it was meant to be 378 00:21:44,819 --> 00:21:47,249 the way it's meant to be. And, interestingly, I went to his 379 00:21:47,249 --> 00:21:48,959 writers retreat. And he said that in front of everybody 380 00:21:48,959 --> 00:21:52,919 there, man, I wish I would have wrote this book. My wife, he 381 00:21:52,919 --> 00:21:55,169 said, If he doesn't write to you, let me know. And I'll buy 382 00:21:55,169 --> 00:21:58,859 the rights to finish writing it. Like if he doesn't finish it. So 383 00:21:58,889 --> 00:22:00,989 having said that, I was trying to decide between Mark and 384 00:22:00,989 --> 00:22:04,169 Richard. So then I went to mark a little bit later and said, 385 00:22:04,169 --> 00:22:06,569 Hey, would you be up for endorsing the book, no pressure. 386 00:22:06,779 --> 00:22:08,759 And he said, give me a call. So I can find out what the books 387 00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:11,249 about. And what I respect is he didn't just say, Sure, I'll put 388 00:22:11,249 --> 00:22:13,289 my name in a book that I have don't know anything about. So we 389 00:22:13,289 --> 00:22:15,389 got on a call. And instead of him reading it, it was like a 390 00:22:15,389 --> 00:22:18,239 goat. Now he's reading, but it was like me telling about the 391 00:22:18,239 --> 00:22:20,519 book. And he's a big fan of Augmon Dino too, because that 392 00:22:20,519 --> 00:22:23,339 sounds like my, that sounds like my good buddy. augis writing 393 00:22:23,489 --> 00:22:27,149 like that his book? And he said, Yeah, so he said, turn on the 394 00:22:27,809 --> 00:22:30,569 record on your phone and record this. And then he gave me a 395 00:22:30,569 --> 00:22:33,419 testimonial that way. What I'm saying about that, you'll notice 396 00:22:33,419 --> 00:22:35,939 Janice's that was the first interview I ever did with him as 397 00:22:35,939 --> 00:22:39,449 four years earlier. Yes. My first major ask was four years 398 00:22:39,449 --> 00:22:42,089 later, after six or seven interviews, after I introduced 399 00:22:42,089 --> 00:22:44,579 him at that point now, it's probably been 35 or 40 Big 400 00:22:44,579 --> 00:22:49,109 podcasts. And so that's the non sexy answer how you do this, it 401 00:22:49,109 --> 00:22:52,739 takes time you have to invest in it. The sexier strategic answer 402 00:22:52,739 --> 00:22:55,859 of what I did was my first big interview was Jack Canfield. 403 00:22:56,459 --> 00:23:01,559 Marks writing partner. And so I reached out, and Jack at the 404 00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:04,049 time wasn't doing interviews, they said, like, he's not 405 00:23:04,049 --> 00:23:06,749 promoting anything. He's, he's really busy with other stuff. 406 00:23:06,809 --> 00:23:09,539 They said, he's like, turning down nine out of every 10. So he 407 00:23:09,539 --> 00:23:11,219 said, Cory, it's just probably gonna be you know, just being 408 00:23:11,219 --> 00:23:15,629 realistic. And so, to me, it was a no for now, not a no. So what 409 00:23:15,629 --> 00:23:18,959 I did was, here's the strategy. I went to Jack's site, and I 410 00:23:18,959 --> 00:23:22,859 said, Who's endorsing Jack? Who else can I get to if I can't get 411 00:23:22,889 --> 00:23:26,579 to Jack's? And so I noticed this one name, Dan Sullivan, who runs 412 00:23:26,579 --> 00:23:30,059 a company called Strategic Coach in Toronto. My dad's not like is 413 00:23:30,059 --> 00:23:33,719 out there. Like he's not trying to be that there's Josh. And Dan 414 00:23:33,719 --> 00:23:35,669 had just done an interview in Success Magazine, which I 415 00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:38,489 listened to every month at the time on the audio, actually a CD 416 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:41,039 for those that don't know what it is, but your car and listen 417 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:43,259 to the audio. And Darren Hardy interviewed him and I had a 418 00:23:43,289 --> 00:23:46,409 similar interview style to Darren Hardy. So I went to Dan's 419 00:23:46,409 --> 00:23:48,599 team and said, Hey, Dan said this was his favorite interview. 420 00:23:48,659 --> 00:23:51,419 Here's a copy of my interview. I think he'd like our show. So 421 00:23:51,419 --> 00:23:53,549 they came back. So we agree, it sounds like a similar style. 422 00:23:53,549 --> 00:23:56,639 Let's get down on the show. They get to and on the show, which 423 00:23:56,639 --> 00:23:59,339 was really my first big get. But then what I did was on the 424 00:23:59,369 --> 00:24:02,159 interview, I kept bringing up Jack, the jack understand Jack's 425 00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:04,199 like goes to your coaching event. And you're like Jack's 426 00:24:04,199 --> 00:24:06,839 coach, basically, and, and all this stuff. And finally, in the 427 00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:08,759 interview, he said, you know, Cory, the more I think about 428 00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:11,459 this interview in this episode, I think Jack should come on your 429 00:24:11,459 --> 00:24:15,269 show. And you tell Dan said, so what I did Janice's like clip 430 00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:18,959 that Jack's team and they said, Cory, you beaten us into 431 00:24:18,959 --> 00:24:23,639 submission, Schedule link. So that's more of the strategy. So 432 00:24:23,639 --> 00:24:26,489 the sexy side, the non sexy side is you got to build a 433 00:24:26,489 --> 00:24:28,499 relationship, you got to invest, you got to figure out how can I 434 00:24:28,499 --> 00:24:32,219 give before taking the other side is sometimes you need to be 435 00:24:32,219 --> 00:24:34,169 strategic if you want to build relationships, so you can 436 00:24:34,169 --> 00:24:35,309 actually give to them first. 437 00:24:35,609 --> 00:24:38,699 Janice Porter: Yeah, those are both nuggets that are huge, 438 00:24:38,699 --> 00:24:44,429 because I think a lot of people most people are impatient. And 439 00:24:44,609 --> 00:24:48,659 that it's not because I always teach, give, give, give ask, you 440 00:24:48,659 --> 00:24:51,929 know Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook, it's like, you know, you got to 441 00:24:51,959 --> 00:24:55,619 give, give, give before you ask for something, but most people 442 00:24:55,649 --> 00:24:59,369 it's like, they go right to the pitch and there they don't see 443 00:24:59,369 --> 00:25:03,419 that That's, there's no nothing invested at that point. So I 444 00:25:03,419 --> 00:25:06,749 totally agree with you. And it's a long that's the long game as 445 00:25:06,749 --> 00:25:10,829 my, someone I interviewed on my podcast who I adore Dorie Clark. 446 00:25:10,889 --> 00:25:13,769 I don't know if you know, yeah, she always said she wrote a book 447 00:25:13,769 --> 00:25:17,159 called the long game. It's the long game. It really is. Right? 448 00:25:17,399 --> 00:25:22,499 And, and the right way to do things, I think so it's not 449 00:25:22,499 --> 00:25:25,829 sexy, but it is in a way, because it's really about 450 00:25:26,729 --> 00:25:30,269 depositing in the bank account, so to speak, right. But in a in 451 00:25:30,269 --> 00:25:33,539 an authentic way, in a real way. You You have to mean it. Right. 452 00:25:33,719 --> 00:25:37,139 And, and I and be sincere about it. Absolutely. 453 00:25:37,139 --> 00:25:39,719 Corey Poirier: And I will say, we talked off the top about 454 00:25:39,719 --> 00:25:42,809 synchronicity in the book. And I will say if you believe in 455 00:25:42,809 --> 00:25:47,009 synchronicity, what's really fascinating is literally two 456 00:25:47,009 --> 00:25:51,359 days ago, the book was featured in Dorries newsletter. Oh, oh, 457 00:25:51,389 --> 00:25:54,569 my god, I love it. You know, synchronicity, the odds that you 458 00:25:54,569 --> 00:25:57,509 would bring up glory during this interview after, and literally I 459 00:25:57,509 --> 00:26:00,149 was just on a call with somebody who reached out to me, this is 460 00:26:00,149 --> 00:26:03,389 the power of branding and networking, positioning somebody 461 00:26:03,389 --> 00:26:06,509 that reached out to me to ask me, you know about the 462 00:26:06,509 --> 00:26:09,149 experience of being indoors newsletter, and then we got on a 463 00:26:09,149 --> 00:26:11,189 call. And then he asked, Well, what do you do and then at the 464 00:26:11,189 --> 00:26:12,989 end of it, so I might be interested in signing up for 465 00:26:12,989 --> 00:26:15,269 that. You just never know relationships gonna go right. 466 00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:17,849 And he's been following Dory for years. And they imagine event 467 00:26:17,849 --> 00:26:20,399 and stuff. And I've interviewed Dory in the past numerous times. 468 00:26:20,399 --> 00:26:23,699 But it's just like I said, it's, it's really a smaller world than 469 00:26:23,699 --> 00:26:26,159 you think it is, once you put the time in. 470 00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:30,120 Janice Porter: So let's go back to synchronicity then. Just from 471 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:33,330 that statement you just met. Sad it's really a smaller world than 472 00:26:33,330 --> 00:26:37,710 you think it is. Because that I think that was that the first 473 00:26:37,710 --> 00:26:41,220 chapter? No, Chapter Four is synchronicity but but 474 00:26:41,250 --> 00:26:47,580 synchronicity? I don't know, is it? I've always struggled with, 475 00:26:47,820 --> 00:26:51,420 like you talk in that chapter. I think if I remember correctly 476 00:26:51,420 --> 00:26:56,100 about writing things down. Right, when things happen and 477 00:26:56,100 --> 00:27:04,590 sort of seeing how things do play out? Yeah. I don't believe 478 00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:07,590 there's any accidents. I believe that things happen for a reason. 479 00:27:07,950 --> 00:27:14,310 But I'm not sure I can. That I have, what's the term that I 480 00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:23,610 have? Massaged that thing of synchronicity to make it happen 481 00:27:23,610 --> 00:27:24,960 more? Does that make sense? 482 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,080 Corey Poirier: It does. And to answer your question. So here, 483 00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:32,490 I'm not sure anybody can see this, but this is my journal 484 00:27:32,490 --> 00:27:33,360 that I just started. 485 00:27:33,569 --> 00:27:35,669 Janice Porter: Okay. So of course, holding up his journal, 486 00:27:35,699 --> 00:27:37,649 right? And the journal. Could 487 00:27:37,650 --> 00:27:39,840 Corey Poirier: you said, Did you say something about writing it 488 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,890 down? And so yes, I believe. So James. And Salas, Dean said, If 489 00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:46,380 you without saying the words, because it was a parable as 490 00:27:46,380 --> 00:27:48,570 well, he just kind of implied that if you notice them and 491 00:27:48,570 --> 00:27:50,400 acknowledge them, you'll get more of them. So that had 492 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,070 occurred to me, why don't I just physically write them down? Like 493 00:27:53,070 --> 00:27:55,080 that would really be acknowledging them? So I started 494 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,130 writing them down and answer I guess the big question there is, 495 00:27:59,190 --> 00:28:03,180 I used to have them every blue moon. But either I didn't notice 496 00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:05,460 as often as are happening, or they weren't happening as often. 497 00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:08,790 That's the riddle. I mean, I some people will say get 498 00:28:08,790 --> 00:28:11,640 absolutely extra on that. And I really don't know how anybody 499 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,250 can give an absolute answer, meaning it's like the car you 500 00:28:14,250 --> 00:28:19,200 buy? Do you see it more? Because you now notice it? Because you 501 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,220 bought it? Or does the universe now put you on the road? At the 502 00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:25,980 same time as that car to see more than now? Because you now 503 00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:27,750 have the car in your consciousness? I don't know the 504 00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:29,850 answer. So same thing with synchronicity. I don't know if 505 00:28:29,850 --> 00:28:32,820 it's that I wrote them. So now I'm getting more of them. 506 00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:36,480 Because universe is Oh, you like these? I'll give you more. Or if 507 00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:39,690 they were already happening, as many as they were. And I just 508 00:28:39,690 --> 00:28:41,670 didn't notice them. I didn't know which is the real answer, 509 00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:43,890 and doesn't really matter. Because all I know is I get them 510 00:28:43,890 --> 00:28:46,380 a lot more frequently than I ever noticed before. So to 511 00:28:46,380 --> 00:28:48,870 answer when you said, I don't know how to necessarily maybe 512 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:51,180 use that. Well, my answer would be write them down when they 513 00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:53,790 happen. I think you'll start getting blown away by how often 514 00:28:53,820 --> 00:28:56,700 they happen. And for me, sometimes they're 515 00:28:56,790 --> 00:28:59,130 synchronicities. And sometimes they're like close to 516 00:28:59,130 --> 00:29:02,790 synchronicity. But to give you an example, that literally just 517 00:29:02,790 --> 00:29:06,240 happened, because there's some that are like, one I had I was I 518 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,190 was on a plane with a guy the other day, I'm looking at this 519 00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:12,060 right here. And he said, we got talking and I said that we're 520 00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:15,090 going to Vegas in May. I said next month, and this was in 521 00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:18,660 April. I said next month, and he said, Oh yeah, we are too. And 522 00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:20,970 then he got talking. He said, Yeah, we're going, actually in 523 00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:23,400 June and I said, Oh, yeah. And he goes, We're flying on June 8. 524 00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:26,790 Well, June 8 is my birthday. So I was like, that's interesting. 525 00:29:26,970 --> 00:29:29,970 And then Heidi, who works for us, sent me a message later that 526 00:29:29,970 --> 00:29:31,950 day, and I'd asked her earlier when she was flying back home to 527 00:29:31,950 --> 00:29:35,910 Canada. She goes, Oh, do neighs and then there's a local band 528 00:29:35,910 --> 00:29:39,510 called The Ellis brothers. And I the same day I was on Facebook 529 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:42,180 and scrolling down and then said they were playing at the local 530 00:29:42,180 --> 00:29:46,230 thing on June 8. I don't like I look at that way says that just 531 00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:48,300 tells me I'm on the right path. Like I don't know what they 532 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:50,910 really do that but the other one that happened that was really 533 00:29:50,910 --> 00:29:54,510 powerful. And I don't know if I have my red poker chip here, but 534 00:29:54,510 --> 00:29:57,390 I have a poker chip that says PMA on it, which stands for 535 00:29:57,420 --> 00:30:00,090 positive mental attitude, which came from a book called have 536 00:30:00,090 --> 00:30:03,360 success or a positive mental attitude by Napoleon Hill and W 537 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,880 Clement Stone. They said everybody has an invisible 538 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,880 talisman. They carry around with PMA on one side nma on the other 539 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,550 side. So for me, I printed them up. But I said, Why would I put 540 00:30:11,550 --> 00:30:14,700 negative on one side, I just got to put PMA on both sides. And I 541 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,490 just read ship that I usually carry around with me. And so we 542 00:30:17,490 --> 00:30:21,120 did this talk at the University of Miami. And there was a lady 543 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,490 in the audience who was really intrigued by it. You could tell 544 00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:25,950 she had a lot of questions. Now, I never told her what it stood 545 00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:28,710 for. I just said I carry the chip and and talked about it. I 546 00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:31,650 didn't have one to show them. But I went to my bag because 547 00:30:31,650 --> 00:30:34,290 somebody asked me for a pen to write down on the evaluation 548 00:30:34,290 --> 00:30:37,560 forms. And I popped the poker chip. And then I saw her she was 549 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,930 still standing there talking. So I went over kind of waited for a 550 00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:42,000 sec and showed her it. I remember the poker chip was 551 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,040 talking about you seem so interested in this is it here. 552 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,470 And then she tried to guess what PMA stood for for like 10 553 00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:50,340 minutes. And she was really close the whole time. But as we 554 00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:52,380 were both apart, I said, You know what, why don't you take 555 00:30:52,380 --> 00:30:55,290 it? I said, I got my make them. Like I got lots of them. And I 556 00:30:55,290 --> 00:30:56,850 said, I like giving them out like this, because you'll 557 00:30:56,850 --> 00:30:59,130 probably tell the story to somebody else. And it'll get 558 00:30:59,130 --> 00:31:01,440 them into a positive mental attitude. Maybe they'll print 559 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,070 the chips. Anyway. She started crying after about five minutes, 560 00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:07,740 as we were still talking and I'm like, oh, what just happened 561 00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:13,350 here. And she told me that her boyfriend had died six months 562 00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:18,480 before of an overdose. And he was in the program AAA. And I 563 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,060 guess in this part of Florida, they have colored poker chips, 564 00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:24,360 which I think they do with most aid things. But the one that for 565 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,930 60 days is a red poker chip. And she said it only occurred to her 566 00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:30,510 because she's tries not to think about it. It only occurred to 567 00:31:30,510 --> 00:31:33,930 her. After a few minutes that he the last two poker chip you 568 00:31:33,930 --> 00:31:37,110 shoulder was a red poker chip. Oh my good now I have given her 569 00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:40,740 a red poker chip. For her What that meant is this is him 570 00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:44,340 telling me he's watching over me. Yes, of course. So that gets 571 00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:45,810 written in the book because what I'm trying to say that's a 572 00:31:45,810 --> 00:31:47,610 synchronicity to me. Yes, of 573 00:31:47,610 --> 00:31:49,920 Janice Porter: course. It's fantastic. I love it. Okay, I'm 574 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,090 gonna start writing them down. Please do so. So that story that 575 00:31:54,090 --> 00:31:57,510 just happened between us around Dorie Clark, is that a 576 00:31:57,510 --> 00:32:01,770 synchronicity for you? And me? Or just you? 577 00:32:02,459 --> 00:32:04,229 Corey Poirier: I mean, that's that's an interesting question. 578 00:32:04,229 --> 00:32:08,789 And this is where honestly, like, I struggled with, I was 579 00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:11,729 definitely and I say it often, I was a spiritual skeptic for most 580 00:32:11,729 --> 00:32:16,949 of my life. And I still am to a large degree. So like I struggle 581 00:32:16,949 --> 00:32:19,559 with like astral projection. And the idea that I could be above 582 00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:22,889 my body looking down like, I'm just not there yet. And and I 583 00:32:22,889 --> 00:32:24,839 don't know if I will get there, or if I will, or ascending the 584 00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:29,969 idea of ascending. I'm still not there yet. So, so for me, I 585 00:32:29,969 --> 00:32:32,069 struggle when people give you an absolute answer to something 586 00:32:32,069 --> 00:32:33,869 like that, because I believe ultimately, it's our 587 00:32:33,869 --> 00:32:36,689 speculation. Like, I believe it's like, this is what I 588 00:32:36,689 --> 00:32:41,309 believe. Fine. People say this is what that means. Yeah, that's 589 00:32:41,309 --> 00:32:44,969 a good yeah. Like, how, how did you become the person that knows 590 00:32:44,969 --> 00:32:46,799 that when the only way we could know that is to be on the other 591 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:50,609 side if, if we believe in the other side? Somebody recently 592 00:32:50,609 --> 00:32:53,399 his name is Vinny, and I'm gonna see him next week at the writers 593 00:32:53,399 --> 00:32:58,649 retreat in Utah. And Vinnie died for 72 hours is that Vinnie, the 594 00:32:58,649 --> 00:33:02,039 podcast guy, he has a podcast I'm trying to think of his last 595 00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,439 name, but he has a book about 596 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:09,540 Janice Porter: so then he has a tea no or no. Okay. No, 597 00:33:09,539 --> 00:33:11,369 Corey Poirier: no, no, I know who you mean. No, this year as 598 00:33:11,369 --> 00:33:13,949 well. If the guy I'm thinking about you're talking about he's 599 00:33:13,949 --> 00:33:15,119 a speaker gray hair. 600 00:33:16,529 --> 00:33:19,109 Janice Porter: Used to be MTV guy. Okay, 601 00:33:19,139 --> 00:33:20,519 Corey Poirier: no, totally different people. I think 602 00:33:20,579 --> 00:33:22,499 Janice Porter: there's a good podcast is the name of his 603 00:33:22,499 --> 00:33:23,069 podcast, 604 00:33:23,069 --> 00:33:25,679 Corey Poirier: I think. Got him. I think this guy does have a 605 00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:27,659 podcast, but I'm trying to remember the name his book. I 606 00:33:27,659 --> 00:33:30,449 haven't here somewhere. But basically Oh, there it is. I 607 00:33:30,449 --> 00:33:31,049 think oh, 608 00:33:31,049 --> 00:33:35,849 Janice Porter: wait, it's not Vincent. It's not this book. 609 00:33:36,269 --> 00:33:39,359 Nope. That was scare me if it was that book. No, I 610 00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:44,459 Corey Poirier: know him through. It's this guy. Life after Death. 611 00:33:45,329 --> 00:33:48,029 Coleman. I mean, they call them Vinnie, Vinnie Vegas, because he 612 00:33:48,029 --> 00:33:53,699 lives in Vegas. Yeah, but he died. It says he said that. It 613 00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:57,059 says here. This is this is the front of it. At age 25. Vincent 614 00:33:57,059 --> 00:33:59,639 Tolman was pronounced that and put in a body bag. Nearly an 615 00:33:59,639 --> 00:34:03,449 hour later, he miraculously came back to life. This is his story. 616 00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:08,819 But what he told me is that, technically, he was dead a lot 617 00:34:08,819 --> 00:34:10,859 longer than that, because they didn't find him for a day and a 618 00:34:10,859 --> 00:34:14,639 half, like, a few days or something. So the reason I bring 619 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,239 this up, only the main reason I bring this up is now if Vincent 620 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,139 tells me this is what's on the other side. I can, I can 621 00:34:22,169 --> 00:34:26,309 understand why he believes that firmly. Because there's not many 622 00:34:26,309 --> 00:34:30,209 people that have died for that long to tell you that. So this 623 00:34:30,209 --> 00:34:32,549 is what I saw on the other side, then, okay, I'm gonna have to 624 00:34:32,549 --> 00:34:35,699 buy into course yeah, what I'm saying is most people say this 625 00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:39,839 is this is what's true. And so that was a long answer to your 626 00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:43,559 question. Was a synchronicity for me or for you? I think, 627 00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:47,759 personally, it's probably what each of us assigns to it. In 628 00:34:47,759 --> 00:34:50,369 other words, if I think it's for both of us, and it's for both of 629 00:34:50,369 --> 00:34:53,939 us to me, if you think it's for you, then it's for you. But what 630 00:34:53,939 --> 00:34:57,869 do I take from it? Again, it gets hard to get and there's a 631 00:34:57,869 --> 00:34:59,879 lot of people that will say this one it means just like dreams, 632 00:34:59,879 --> 00:35:02,279 right? if that's what your dream means, but whoever was that, who 633 00:35:02,279 --> 00:35:05,069 became the authority on that, like, Where was that proven that 634 00:35:05,069 --> 00:35:07,529 if your dream is that means this. So the same thing with 635 00:35:07,529 --> 00:35:10,889 this is that I think for me, what it means is you and I are 636 00:35:10,889 --> 00:35:13,499 in the right place at the right time doing this interview. Me, 637 00:35:13,499 --> 00:35:17,309 it's just a validation, you're on the right track. But somebody 638 00:35:17,309 --> 00:35:19,559 else could certainly assign a bigger meaning. Like, for 639 00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,289 example, both of us are so semester's tour Dory, right 640 00:35:22,289 --> 00:35:24,479 after this, and say, Hey, don't worry, we're just talking about 641 00:35:24,479 --> 00:35:27,719 you. Because we have a message for you. Like it's an in the 642 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,819 book I talked about, oh, James says, if you see somebody 643 00:35:29,819 --> 00:35:33,269 multiple times, then they probably have a message for you. 644 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:36,539 For me, I think it's ultimately what we believe that's what we 645 00:35:36,539 --> 00:35:39,989 should go with. So. So another weird example, around intuition 646 00:35:40,169 --> 00:35:43,739 for me if we were going on a trip one time, and I was going 647 00:35:43,739 --> 00:35:47,609 to be getting the book on my red carpet, in Nashville with my 648 00:35:47,609 --> 00:35:51,209 publisher. And it was right around May 2020. And we were 649 00:35:51,209 --> 00:35:55,349 driving to the airport. And my wife was pregnant, and we asked 650 00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:58,589 her doctor, is it safe to go COVID is just starting. And she 651 00:35:58,589 --> 00:36:00,479 said, there's only one case and all the tendency you should be 652 00:36:00,479 --> 00:36:02,789 fine. We had the sniffles and cold. So it wouldn't have 653 00:36:02,789 --> 00:36:04,529 probably been good anyway, because we would have went there 654 00:36:04,529 --> 00:36:06,539 as the people that they thought had COVID Even though we didn't, 655 00:36:07,379 --> 00:36:11,549 but we I got a text and said your flights delayed. And so my 656 00:36:11,579 --> 00:36:14,729 The reason I bring this up is because some people would say, 657 00:36:14,729 --> 00:36:16,859 well, everything's meant to be canceled, the flights delayed. 658 00:36:16,859 --> 00:36:20,549 But if I went with that, Janice, every flight I'm on is delayed, 659 00:36:20,669 --> 00:36:24,899 I would never go anywhere. So me I see think I need a bigger sign 660 00:36:24,899 --> 00:36:28,649 than just your flights delayed. So I got a second text on the 661 00:36:28,649 --> 00:36:31,619 way to the airport saying your flights delayed. And I the first 662 00:36:31,619 --> 00:36:34,079 one I said is that the universe testing us or telling us the 663 00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:37,049 second one, I said Who universe is really testing me. And then 664 00:36:37,049 --> 00:36:38,909 we were about 10 months away from the airport. Third your 665 00:36:38,909 --> 00:36:41,099 flights late, I said, the universe just told us not to go 666 00:36:41,099 --> 00:36:44,099 on this trip. My point is I need the universe to drill it into my 667 00:36:44,099 --> 00:36:47,129 head, not just say your flights laid once. And then we got to 668 00:36:47,129 --> 00:36:49,469 the counter and the lady. We said like we only had an hour 669 00:36:49,469 --> 00:36:53,159 and a half to go through customs with a pregnant wife. And start 670 00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:55,499 with she said all I can tell you I can't say much. But I'm 671 00:36:55,499 --> 00:36:58,829 looking at the screen and you won't make your next flight. So 672 00:36:58,859 --> 00:37:01,229 we wouldn't have made it we were only going for four days. We 673 00:37:01,229 --> 00:37:03,509 already were sneezing and coughing, like everything about 674 00:37:03,509 --> 00:37:06,089 it said don't go on this trip. What I'm saying though, is I 675 00:37:06,089 --> 00:37:09,839 need more than assign than just a Texas as your flights delayed. 676 00:37:09,959 --> 00:37:12,299 But some people that would be enough if they only travel once 677 00:37:12,299 --> 00:37:14,699 here, they say, Oh, this trip is off? something's gonna happen 678 00:37:14,699 --> 00:37:17,369 with the plane? Well, what I'm saying is, I think it's whatever 679 00:37:17,369 --> 00:37:19,829 you assign to it, if that works for them. Great. But for me, I 680 00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:21,719 need more of a sign. I need the universe to beat me over the 681 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,279 head a little bit before I get 682 00:37:23,820 --> 00:37:28,380 Janice Porter: Oh, fantastic stuff. So let's just wrap up 683 00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:35,250 with some some information from my listeners about your book, 684 00:37:35,310 --> 00:37:39,510 because it's not well, it might be close when this airs, because 685 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:43,800 it's the end of May now it'll probably be about a month, your 686 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,640 book is going is in pre order. Yes. Tell us about where they 687 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,830 can get it and so on. Yeah, 688 00:37:49,830 --> 00:37:51,690 Corey Poirier: so it is in preorder, meaning people can 689 00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:55,950 order it right now. If you get it right now, the thing I'll say 690 00:37:55,950 --> 00:37:58,170 is, depending on your listing, but if you're listening while 691 00:37:58,170 --> 00:38:02,160 the bonus is still exists, my my suggestion would be get it now, 692 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,460 because it comes with bonuses that will eventually disappear. 693 00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:08,610 And there's five instant bonuses that come with the book, when 694 00:38:08,610 --> 00:38:11,820 you buy it. Those are like immediately you get them on your 695 00:38:11,820 --> 00:38:15,750 email. And then on top of that, there's, you know, we shared 696 00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:18,450 this, you heard me say this, I think, offline, I'm gonna share 697 00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:21,120 this with you, but we have some other live events coming up. And 698 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,530 they're virtual events. And if you buy the book before, I'll 699 00:38:25,530 --> 00:38:28,620 say if you are on the list after buying the book before these 700 00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:31,950 events, you get to attend events all for free. And we have an 701 00:38:31,950 --> 00:38:35,910 event coming up with Ken Honda and Janet Attwood live event you 702 00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:38,550 can attend. Richard Paul Evans and Mark Victor Hansen and 703 00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:41,880 Crystal Hansen. We have one cup that's kind of fascinating to 704 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,430 me. We have one coming up with Brian Austin Green from anger 705 00:38:44,430 --> 00:38:48,090 management 92 Randy spelling Fernando and Sharna Burgas, 706 00:38:48,090 --> 00:38:51,720 which is Dancing with the Stars. She's married to find dream. 707 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:55,710 Yeah. So it's gonna be like 902101. So we have all these 708 00:38:55,710 --> 00:39:03,570 complex? Shawna? Shawna, right, sure. And and then we have a 709 00:39:03,570 --> 00:39:06,570 live virtual bootcamp we do usually once or twice a year and 710 00:39:06,570 --> 00:39:10,080 it's coming up. And basically by getting the book you're in for 711 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,810 all any of those that are still to happen after you get the book 712 00:39:12,930 --> 00:39:16,260 and you get the five instant bonuses. So to me, it makes 713 00:39:16,260 --> 00:39:20,010 sense if you can get all those things. So a $16.95 cent book. 714 00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:24,330 So the answer the question how they will get it is and if you 715 00:39:24,330 --> 00:39:27,120 can probably include a link in the show notes. Yes, of course. 716 00:39:27,210 --> 00:39:32,160 If they go to the main link for the book, then when they get it, 717 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,580 they get it they're extending themselves to the retailer site 718 00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:37,650 so they still pay the same price they still get at the same 719 00:39:37,650 --> 00:39:40,290 place. But when you get it through our site, you come back 720 00:39:40,350 --> 00:39:42,780 put the order number in and then you get in for all that stuff. I 721 00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:46,320 said okay God, Barnes and Noble or Amazon on your own we can't 722 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,090 send you those gifts because we don't even know your bottoms. 723 00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:49,830 They don't share it with us. So 724 00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:51,720 Janice Porter: that tells me the link again is 725 00:39:52,770 --> 00:40:00,000 Corey Poirier: Sonos. Yeah, it's this is the book.com. So this 726 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,960 He's a bit.com 727 00:40:02,429 --> 00:40:04,649 Janice Porter: perfect because I'm looking on Amazon now and 728 00:40:04,649 --> 00:40:07,379 I'm sitting thinking, I don't see any bonuses or anything. So 729 00:40:07,379 --> 00:40:10,919 yes. Okay, that will be in there, this is the book.com. And 730 00:40:10,919 --> 00:40:14,759 that will allow you to go buy it, bring you the, the receipt 731 00:40:14,759 --> 00:40:17,669 to proof of purchase, and then you're eligible for all those 732 00:40:17,669 --> 00:40:20,819 things. That's fantastic. I'm very excited for you. I think 733 00:40:20,819 --> 00:40:25,229 this is going to be huge. I think it's, I so enjoyed this 734 00:40:25,259 --> 00:40:29,159 reading it and it's a quick read, it's a great book to share 735 00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:33,539 with others, especially like you said, the things that you would 736 00:40:33,539 --> 00:40:36,839 teach your your children, you know, it's kind of like get the 737 00:40:36,839 --> 00:40:40,139 young people who are just coming up to start thinking about these 738 00:40:40,139 --> 00:40:44,159 things and think this way, because you know, it I wish I'd 739 00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:47,249 known some of these things earlier than I did, you know, 740 00:40:47,279 --> 00:40:52,469 start to explore the, the the ideas of intuition and 741 00:40:52,499 --> 00:40:57,299 synchronicity and all of those good things. So. So thank you, 742 00:40:57,299 --> 00:41:01,889 thank you for being here. And I appreciate your time and my 743 00:41:01,889 --> 00:41:06,659 audience. I really encourage you to check this out. Check Corys 744 00:41:06,689 --> 00:41:11,429 work out and do get involved with with what he does, because 745 00:41:11,459 --> 00:41:14,789 I think it's really I think he's onto something big here bigger 746 00:41:14,789 --> 00:41:19,769 than before. So congratulations. Thank you for being here. Again 747 00:41:19,769 --> 00:41:22,799 to my audience. Thank you and remember to stay connected and 748 00:41:22,799 --> 00:41:23,639 be remembered