Janice Porter: Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's
episode of relationships rule. My guest this week is Cory,
Cory. And Cory and I have spoken before on my podcast and
checking back, it was just over two years ago, January episode
143, when I got to know Corey and all of his work, and, and
now I'm so happy to have him back because he has a new book
that is fascinating that we want to talk about. And first of all,
I'm going to welcome you to the show.
Corey Poirier: Well, thank you so much. So excited to be here.
Janice Porter: Thank you. And second, to just reiterate just
briefly, the the wealth of your career from stand up comedy, to
TEDx speaker to teaching other people how to be TEDx speakers,
to being an author to being a podcast host, and being
recognized in Success Magazine, being I don't know. So
interviewing over like, 7000, of the world's top leaders. And I
think all of this is now come in combination with this new book,
right? The Enlightened passenger, as it's called, it's
not even out yet, right? It's the Enlightened passenger, the
flight that changes everything is the name of your new book,
and I congratulate you on it. Tell me a little bit about
because I read it, and I loved it. And it reminded me have some
other things. But I have quit until I have questions. But tell
me how long has that been brewing for you? And how did it
take shape?
Corey Poirier: So the brewing, I mean, it kind of both ties
together. But the word brewing, if I looked at it from
perspective of before I started actually writing it, because
that was an actual timeline. It was about a year. So from the
point where I said, I have this idea, to the point where I
started working on that idea. That was about a year. So I knew
what I'll say it this way, I knew what the ending was going
to be, before I knew anything else about the book. So it was
kind of written, Quentin Tarantino, for those that
familiar with him as a director and writer, he had this habit of
kind of writing, starting with the end of the movie, and then
working his way back. And I would say that this book was
kind of written like that. Like, again, I started with the end in
mind and work my way back. That started a year, a year before
any words started coming to life. Now, every now and then I
would think, Oh, you know what I should do? You know, I should do
this, oh, I should add this. But it was just more like in my
head, here's what I'd like to do. And my wife kept saying, are
you ever going to write that book he told me about, like, she
didn't know much about it. She just knew the ending as well, as
ever gonna write that book? And I said, Yeah, I think so. And
eventually, I finally decided that it was time and we went on
a family vacation for two weeks at a cottage by the water and I
don't swim, and her and the kids swim. So I, she said, you know,
while we're swimming, either gonna sit in the beach or you
sit in the room, it doesn't matter. But why don't you work
that book. So I wrote the first half of the book on that
vacation. And then I never touched it for another few
months. And then I tinker and put six pages together. So it
took me about another year. From the point where I started typing
until the book was I'll call it first draft complete. The one
thing that was different about this book than anything else
I've ever written, Janice is that once I hit that, that mark,
interestingly, I had a beta group. So everything about the
book I've done in kind of like a very intentional pattern. It
wasn't just like, let's write a book, put it out in the world,
and hope it does well. And it was like, let's find out if it's
a good book, or if it needs to be changed or where it's good.
So I got a beta group together, but 25 to 30. People sent them
the book. And essentially, I gave them sort of instructions.
And I said, I'm not looking for grammar, right. I will tell you,
I still got back three or four. I used to be a retired teacher
or a teacher. And that's me, I get it, I get it. Yes, I still
have to tell you these 50 things you need to change. But I made
it clear, we hadn't edited it yet. Like we had a I'll call it.
I don't even know the terms like a line edit, like not aligned at
it. But like a proof editor or whatever, where it's just like,
go through a quick and make sure you catch on the most obvious
stuff. And so we sent it out. And here's where it was kind of
interesting or fascinating to me, because it was unlike
anything else I've ever done. Most of the comments were, I
mean, there were some obviously exceptions, but most of the
comments were either I noticed a lot of grammar, but fix that and
the book is ready. Or I didn't even care about the grammar get
this book in print so I can hold up my hands. And that was
fascinating to me, because that was my first draft. And I'm used
to the idea that you should write a crappy book before you
write a good book. And then a good Book and edit it well,
before it becomes a great book, I'm not used to the idea of
sending a book out, and most people saying I wouldn't change
anything. That was really weird to me. And I'll tell you not
that it's backed by any science. But the best I can figure is, it
feels like the book was channeled through me. So feels
like maybe getting this taken care of by whoever, whatever
higher power, whatever you believe in. That said to me,
here's a gift, because it was different than any other my
writing now I wrote it, I sat there thinking of ideas. I
remember the times writing it, like, all that stuff was me. But
I feel like it was a gift that somebody kind of gave me a story
that I could make complete quite easily.
Janice Porter: Okay, so just for my audience to understand this
book, The Enlightened passenger. To me, it's the same kind of
feeling the kind of book, like it's a parable, right? It's
like, it's like, I think of Bob Berg, the Go Giver, which was a
parable I think of. There's I can't remember St. John's, John,
I think he's got two last names. It was a book about network, the
best network marketer in the world, there was a story, but I
can't remember I've got it in like PDF version in an envelope
somewhere. And I didn't find it in time to remember but same
type of thing. And then Augmentee know who you reference
in the book. So it's a, it's a story with lessons, right for
life. And I'm guessing that and so let's go into this piece, I
want to hear about this. But I'm guessing that all of these
amazing thought leaders and thought leaders that you have
met and interviewed over the years, the Bob Proctor's of the
world, the Jack Canfield of the world, the Lisa Nichols of the
world, those amazing people. And there's a list of suggested
Celeste is reading list at the end of the book. And I'm sure
that that's including all of those amazing people that you
have interviewed, that must have brought the inspiration
somewhere. I don't know, like, Tell me about that.
Corey Poirier: Yeah, so I mean, when I mentioned like, I feel
like, it's weird, because sometimes when we say channeled,
channeled like, I'm a songwriter, as well. And when I
was 12 years of age, I wrote my first song, I didn't know this
sounds so weird to me. But there's a difference in chords
and music, power chords, and like regular country or records.
Regular country, or rock chords would be your regular chords,
people know that ABC, whatever, is like those chords. Well, they
also are played as a power chord when you play in rock music. So
it's just a different way to play them to have them feel a
different way and sound different. And I wrote the song
when I was 12, where I use power chords, but yet I hadn't learned
power chords yet. But they were all correct. Meaning like, How
can I learn something I didn't know write a song, using this
formation of chords that I still didn't know until a year later.
And so that was channeled, truly channeled, I believe, like, the
whole song came out, I was 12. And this song like we've had,
it's been on the radio, like the song was, well, like it was well
received. And yet, it was written in minutes by a guy who
shouldn't have been able to write the songs. So I feel like
that's one form of channel, this one here. I feel like it was
almost like, we're giving you the inspiration, the story, but
you still have to peek pieces together. So I just wanted to
clarify. So the reason I bring that up is because obviously, if
the entire book was channeled through me, then you wouldn't
have the stories about Lisa Nichols or Les Brown, because
those are my stories right? channel wouldn't put back in the
book. And then at the same time, the characters which I didn't
realize this until I was pretty much a year after writing
because the finished of that, as it took about another year
before it got to this stage. It's at now. And so what I
realized quite a while after I wrote it is I'm the two
characters. Well. Everybody else thought, Oh, really, I knew I
was taken from pieces of my life and making it loosely based on
my life. But I didn't clue in that I was fully both
characters. I think what it was is Treb, who is the older
character who's the guy that's been on the journey and all that
I felt that was closer to him because I'd lived the journey.
But I realized that I actually wrote the young, somewhat
slightly arrogant guy and I wasn't arrogant, but I wasn't. I
thought I knew it all. I didn't know about personal development.
I didn't realize that base them on me. Now the interesting part
of it that is his career is he basically sells devices like
photo copiers and stuff for a living. And I sold photo copiers
for a living for tenure. So like it should be all clear and
obvious. Having said that, so the book obviously even if I
said it was channeled through me, it could only be the story
because the rest of it is all taking for my wife, Shelley. My
wife is really Gina like it's literally loosely based on my
life. And to answer your question, the part of me as I
was writing it, and again, I know I was like, which came
first the chicken or the egg? I don't know, if I said, You know
what I should work in the stories from my life, or if I
created the story, and then I was like, You know what would
fit here? And I just pulled a story from my life. I'm not sure
which I don't know how much was intentional. But to answer your
kind of your question, the way the books written parts of my
life, for instance, like I interviewed Les Brown in
Atlanta, in his living room, and I asked him what synchronicity
means to him. And he said, synchronicity is God's way of
staying anonymous. Now, I think that was somebody else's quote,
but hearing it from less makes it taste cold, you know, like,
it's just the way he speaks is different. And so last said that
to me, and in the book Treb, the older character talks. Yeah. And
he talks about how he was backstage with less at an event,
and asked less about synchronicity, and lesson
synchronicity is God's way of staying anonymous. So what I'm
getting at is almost everything in the book is a fictionalized
version of what really happened.
Janice Porter: Well, now that's really interesting, because I,
when I was reading it thought that you and this is totally
different to what you just said, I thought that you were
included. Out of nowhere, okay. That's okay, stuff happens. I
thought that this was your way of modernizing. And these
lessons that we have heard before, right, because nothing's
new. It's just, you know, it's a new audience or a new way of
saying it. But you know, we're talking about what is
synchronicity, we're talking about what is attitude of
gratitude, or we're talking about saying no, all of these
things, we hear them over time from different people, different
thought leaders in their own way. And I thought this was put
in on purpose to modernize it with these modern thought
leaders.
Corey Poirier: So here's the million dollar question, was it
but on an unconscious level? or unconscious, they say is 95%.
Right? What we do? So I'd say either way you say it, it was
done that way. But I don't know who did it. It was very
unconscious. Corey said again, I honestly am saying like, I don't
remember, it may have been me intentionally saying, This is
why I'm going to do this. But it feels like I was writing. And
then I was like, Oh, this should go here. This should go here.
But I will say it was intended for me to share the life lessons
I've learned during those interviews. That part was
intentional. It was intended that like, I've been 7500
interviews with all these thought leaders, I wanted to
share this, but share it in a way that I was maybe introducing
this modern thought leader to the world, but through the eyes
and lens of this character. Ultimately, I didn't really I
don't think realize as I was doing it, how true to life I was
bringing it, if that makes sense. So like when I do like,
oh, you know, he should have met last year instead of lessons
house. And I didn't realize, after I went with all them
together, it was like, Oh, these are all stuff that actually
happened like so. Lisa Nichols, I share in there that he in an
interview with tribes, so tribe interviewed her, so that hurts
me scared that we shouldn't feel from our cup when it's full,
which is counter to what we always hear when she says we
should build from our cup when it's overflowing into a saucer.
And the thinking there is if you continually fell for your cup,
when you're full, it means you're gonna do 100% And then
you're giving away right away. So you're never staying at 100%.
What she's saying is make sure you're full, and you're ready to
share, and then share, which is just a unique approach to what
we've always heard. And so I share that as if Lisa shared
that with tribe in the story. Well, again, Lisa shared that
with me, but I didn't put it at the same setting. I didn't put
it the same time. Tribe is obviously meant to be a little
older than me. Like there. There are some elements that have been
changed. But I think what you're saying I think there is was an
unconscious level to let's, let's share the same lessons I
learned from thinking Grow Rich, in modern way now. But the one
thing that is is factual I can say for sure is the 10 lessons
that are ultimately shared are ones I learned directly from
these thought leaders meaning Yes, thinking Grow Rich Napoleon
Hill talks, some similar ones. But these are shared from how I
learned them. So I, I learned it from Napoleon Hill, but then I
went out and learn them on my own, but doing these interviews,
and spending time with thought leaders, and so they are the 10
things that I basically decided that's how I looked at it. These
are the 10 things if you lock me in the room for 24 hours with my
two young sons, and I can only 10 lessons before I died. These
are the times ones I teach them. So like Les Brown or Les Brown,
Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich doesn't put a word on
synchronicity doesn't really even use the words meaningful
coincidences, like he really doesn't talk about. He talks
about intuition, but he doesn't go into what we know now or what
we could find a synchronicity. He doesn't talk connote things
that happen you'd like, Well, how could that happen? So the
synchronicity park with me teaching is not something I took
from thinking Grow Rich. In fact, what that's from is I
worked with James Redfield, who wrote the self esteem prophecy
on a project. And James really, at the end of the day, Carl
Jung, they said, it's kind of like the one who coined
synchronicity, but James I'll say is the one that made it
famous, you know, he so 40 million books, synchronous
became a thing because of, in a lot of ways, His teachings. And
so I get to study at the feet of the person that kind of shared
it with the world. So what I'm getting at is that these are not
like a carbon copy of even thinking grow rich, but it's
that same type of vein of let's share the stories from a modern
lens. And let's also fictionalize it, so that it's a
parable. So now it's a full complete story where I can
actually have you learning without realizing you're
learning,
Janice Porter: ya know, that that's what makes it so easy to
read. And, and I think to share with others, I think it's the
kind of book you would you and you'll love this. It's the kind
of book you would buy for someone and give it to them.
Right? I think that it really is. I think about all of these
people that you have interviewed over the years, and I do I
probably asked you this before I don't know but cuz I didn't
finish listening to our last interview, to be honest, to to
ask to see if I did ask you this before because I like to be
fresh. Okay, but how did you position yourself for example,
like, how did you get to interview Lisa Nicole, how did
you get to you know, do that project with James forgot his
last name? Like, Celeste, celestial self esteem prophecy?
Corey Poirier: What is it? Redfield?
Janice Porter: Redfield? Yeah, I had that book, but I remember
trying to read it, and I found it difficult to read. So that
was a long time ago.
Corey Poirier: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'll say, This is my
take on that. I think sometimes books, we're ready for them when
we're ready. And sometimes we're not. And so for me, the book you
just defined is the Power of Now, Eckhart Tolle
Janice Porter: Vancouver. Speaking here, just next month,
I think, yeah, well, he lives here. Right. But
Corey Poirier: yeah, so for his books, I have a hard time
getting into them. I mean, I like his teachings, I believe in
His message. I've watched his talks. And but so what you said
about celsion? So what I would say is, excuse me, it might be
worth trying, again, because it's all different times, I
think, the Pulisic. To answer your question, though, there,
it's interesting. You weren't, you were the word you use there
for a minute was position. So how did you position yourself
to. And it's fascinating to me, because a lot of it in the years
recent has been positioning, a lot of that in the years, early
on for how I started interviewing some big name
thought leaders, was a mixture between strategy. And then the
other side, though, it which is the part that's not sexy, and
nobody wants to hear is investing and depositing into
the relationship before ever asking for anything. And so I
heard this great quote in the last two weeks, and I probably
shared it 12 times since it's why some people would know this
guy, some people wouldn't, but a guy named Alex or Mozi.
Janice Porter: And he's, I've heard of them, but I don't know
about a sport. Okay,
Corey Poirier: if you're having a really big name in the
affiliate marketing space, world. So here's this quote,
that he said, the longer you delay your ask, the bigger your
ask can be. Oh, so in other words, if you stop the process,
Janice Porter: because that, to me goes right to building
relationships.
Corey Poirier: Agreed? No, that's, that's what I that's the
intention, how I viewed it. And I think that's how he meant it.
But I'm not sure because I heard it through a person who said,
Alex just said this on his podcast. But for me, what it
means is, if I meet, let's say, I'll give real world examples,
but like when I met Mark Victor Hansen, so I met Mark, years
ago, interviewed him, and then never conversed again for like
two more years. And then I reached out, and he remembered
that I interviewed him. And then we did another interview. And by
the time we did the third or fourth interview, he said to me,
said, you know, Corey, Preston on I was during COVID. We're
launching, we just launched our book, this was on the air. He
said, Do you know of other podcasters you could connect me
with because we're just trying to get on as many shows as we
can, but we're looking for bigger shows or whatever.
Anyway, and so about within about a week, I introduced him
to 25 top 1% podcasts, and then he I think he kind of went okay
enough. Like we're flooded now. Okay. But my point of that is,
is some people would say I'll do that and never act some people
would say sure. I well in San Juan, I kind of went a little
intense and but I mean, I was I was actually saying it's a good
fit for them, but also the host I'm sending it to would love to
have a guy who sold 600 million books on who's impacted how many
lives. And so I got them on their shows. Then we were
working on a documentary, I reached out and said, Hey, if
some of your friends are in this, would you want to be in
this? I'd actually this a great lesson right here about how to
get thought leaders on your side. I didn't say some of your
friends I said, I think you know, some of the people and at
the time, they were really busy. And he said, right now we're not
able to do anything. And it was I was asking about another
interview. And I said, no worries, it was just like a
random Hey, did you want to do this? But anyway, I said, Does
that also go for the documentary? Like, I just want
to make sure I'm not pestering? And he was, oh, no, no, we want
to be in the project with our friends. And that's a key
takeaway right there with our friends, which I'll tell you in
a second how I use strategy around that. But to finish the
story, so I did the documentary thing with Mark, then I brought
him in to do an event and I paid him to do the event at this
point, even though I said, Hey, do you want to be in the
documentary? That's not really an ask. I'm saying, Hey, can I
highlight you in a project that may go to netflix and be seen by
millions of people? It's still a gift, not a gift, but you don't
I mean, it's a gift. And so finally, I asked Mark, and
there's a couple of things since then. But one of the things I
asked recently was about this book. So I said, Mark, would you
be willing to endorse the book? I didn't tell him this. This is
kind of news now. But I was trying to decide between Mark
and Richard Paul Evans around the forward, like who I wanted
to approach on the foreword, Richard ended up writing the
foreword, I think it was a good fit, because he talks about how
he wanted to meet Augmon Dino when he was younger, and he sat
across in a mall, but he wouldn't go approach him and,
and then he said, you know, he finds this book reminds him of
bog. And then if you remember, in the foreword, which I get
goosebumps saying it now somebody has had 46, New York
Times bestsellers. He said, I'm kind of jealous, because I wish
I wrote this book. Yes, he did. So I think it was meant to be
the way it's meant to be. And, interestingly, I went to his
writers retreat. And he said that in front of everybody
there, man, I wish I would have wrote this book. My wife, he
said, If he doesn't write to you, let me know. And I'll buy
the rights to finish writing it. Like if he doesn't finish it. So
having said that, I was trying to decide between Mark and
Richard. So then I went to mark a little bit later and said,
Hey, would you be up for endorsing the book, no pressure.
And he said, give me a call. So I can find out what the books
about. And what I respect is he didn't just say, Sure, I'll put
my name in a book that I have don't know anything about. So we
got on a call. And instead of him reading it, it was like a
goat. Now he's reading, but it was like me telling about the
book. And he's a big fan of Augmon Dino too, because that
sounds like my, that sounds like my good buddy. augis writing
like that his book? And he said, Yeah, so he said, turn on the
record on your phone and record this. And then he gave me a
testimonial that way. What I'm saying about that, you'll notice
Janice's that was the first interview I ever did with him as
four years earlier. Yes. My first major ask was four years
later, after six or seven interviews, after I introduced
him at that point now, it's probably been 35 or 40 Big
podcasts. And so that's the non sexy answer how you do this, it
takes time you have to invest in it. The sexier strategic answer
of what I did was my first big interview was Jack Canfield.
Marks writing partner. And so I reached out, and Jack at the
time wasn't doing interviews, they said, like, he's not
promoting anything. He's, he's really busy with other stuff.
They said, he's like, turning down nine out of every 10. So he
said, Cory, it's just probably gonna be you know, just being
realistic. And so, to me, it was a no for now, not a no. So what
I did was, here's the strategy. I went to Jack's site, and I
said, Who's endorsing Jack? Who else can I get to if I can't get
to Jack's? And so I noticed this one name, Dan Sullivan, who runs
a company called Strategic Coach in Toronto. My dad's not like is
out there. Like he's not trying to be that there's Josh. And Dan
had just done an interview in Success Magazine, which I
listened to every month at the time on the audio, actually a CD
for those that don't know what it is, but your car and listen
to the audio. And Darren Hardy interviewed him and I had a
similar interview style to Darren Hardy. So I went to Dan's
team and said, Hey, Dan said this was his favorite interview.
Here's a copy of my interview. I think he'd like our show. So
they came back. So we agree, it sounds like a similar style.
Let's get down on the show. They get to and on the show, which
was really my first big get. But then what I did was on the
interview, I kept bringing up Jack, the jack understand Jack's
like goes to your coaching event. And you're like Jack's
coach, basically, and, and all this stuff. And finally, in the
interview, he said, you know, Cory, the more I think about
this interview in this episode, I think Jack should come on your
show. And you tell Dan said, so what I did Janice's like clip
that Jack's team and they said, Cory, you beaten us into
submission, Schedule link. So that's more of the strategy. So
the sexy side, the non sexy side is you got to build a
relationship, you got to invest, you got to figure out how can I
give before taking the other side is sometimes you need to be
strategic if you want to build relationships, so you can
actually give to them first.
Janice Porter: Yeah, those are both nuggets that are huge,
because I think a lot of people most people are impatient. And
that it's not because I always teach, give, give, give ask, you
know Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook, it's like, you know, you got to
give, give, give before you ask for something, but most people
it's like, they go right to the pitch and there they don't see
that That's, there's no nothing invested at that point. So I
totally agree with you. And it's a long that's the long game as
my, someone I interviewed on my podcast who I adore Dorie Clark.
I don't know if you know, yeah, she always said she wrote a book
called the long game. It's the long game. It really is. Right?
And, and the right way to do things, I think so it's not
sexy, but it is in a way, because it's really about
depositing in the bank account, so to speak, right. But in a in
an authentic way, in a real way. You You have to mean it. Right.
And, and I and be sincere about it. Absolutely.
Corey Poirier: And I will say, we talked off the top about
synchronicity in the book. And I will say if you believe in
synchronicity, what's really fascinating is literally two
days ago, the book was featured in Dorries newsletter. Oh, oh,
my god, I love it. You know, synchronicity, the odds that you
would bring up glory during this interview after, and literally I
was just on a call with somebody who reached out to me, this is
the power of branding and networking, positioning somebody
that reached out to me to ask me, you know about the
experience of being indoors newsletter, and then we got on a
call. And then he asked, Well, what do you do and then at the
end of it, so I might be interested in signing up for
that. You just never know relationships gonna go right.
And he's been following Dory for years. And they imagine event
and stuff. And I've interviewed Dory in the past numerous times.
But it's just like I said, it's, it's really a smaller world than
you think it is, once you put the time in.
Janice Porter: So let's go back to synchronicity then. Just from
that statement you just met. Sad it's really a smaller world than
you think it is. Because that I think that was that the first
chapter? No, Chapter Four is synchronicity but but
synchronicity? I don't know, is it? I've always struggled with,
like you talk in that chapter. I think if I remember correctly
about writing things down. Right, when things happen and
sort of seeing how things do play out? Yeah. I don't believe
there's any accidents. I believe that things happen for a reason.
But I'm not sure I can. That I have, what's the term that I
have? Massaged that thing of synchronicity to make it happen
more? Does that make sense?
Corey Poirier: It does. And to answer your question. So here,
I'm not sure anybody can see this, but this is my journal
that I just started.
Janice Porter: Okay. So of course, holding up his journal,
right? And the journal. Could
Corey Poirier: you said, Did you say something about writing it
down? And so yes, I believe. So James. And Salas, Dean said, If
you without saying the words, because it was a parable as
well, he just kind of implied that if you notice them and
acknowledge them, you'll get more of them. So that had
occurred to me, why don't I just physically write them down? Like
that would really be acknowledging them? So I started
writing them down and answer I guess the big question there is,
I used to have them every blue moon. But either I didn't notice
as often as are happening, or they weren't happening as often.
That's the riddle. I mean, I some people will say get
absolutely extra on that. And I really don't know how anybody
can give an absolute answer, meaning it's like the car you
buy? Do you see it more? Because you now notice it? Because you
bought it? Or does the universe now put you on the road? At the
same time as that car to see more than now? Because you now
have the car in your consciousness? I don't know the
answer. So same thing with synchronicity. I don't know if
it's that I wrote them. So now I'm getting more of them.
Because universe is Oh, you like these? I'll give you more. Or if
they were already happening, as many as they were. And I just
didn't notice them. I didn't know which is the real answer,
and doesn't really matter. Because all I know is I get them
a lot more frequently than I ever noticed before. So to
answer when you said, I don't know how to necessarily maybe
use that. Well, my answer would be write them down when they
happen. I think you'll start getting blown away by how often
they happen. And for me, sometimes they're
synchronicities. And sometimes they're like close to
synchronicity. But to give you an example, that literally just
happened, because there's some that are like, one I had I was I
was on a plane with a guy the other day, I'm looking at this
right here. And he said, we got talking and I said that we're
going to Vegas in May. I said next month, and this was in
April. I said next month, and he said, Oh yeah, we are too. And
then he got talking. He said, Yeah, we're going, actually in
June and I said, Oh, yeah. And he goes, We're flying on June 8.
Well, June 8 is my birthday. So I was like, that's interesting.
And then Heidi, who works for us, sent me a message later that
day, and I'd asked her earlier when she was flying back home to
Canada. She goes, Oh, do neighs and then there's a local band
called The Ellis brothers. And I the same day I was on Facebook
and scrolling down and then said they were playing at the local
thing on June 8. I don't like I look at that way says that just
tells me I'm on the right path. Like I don't know what they
really do that but the other one that happened that was really
powerful. And I don't know if I have my red poker chip here, but
I have a poker chip that says PMA on it, which stands for
positive mental attitude, which came from a book called have
success or a positive mental attitude by Napoleon Hill and W
Clement Stone. They said everybody has an invisible
talisman. They carry around with PMA on one side nma on the other
side. So for me, I printed them up. But I said, Why would I put
negative on one side, I just got to put PMA on both sides. And I
just read ship that I usually carry around with me. And so we
did this talk at the University of Miami. And there was a lady
in the audience who was really intrigued by it. You could tell
she had a lot of questions. Now, I never told her what it stood
for. I just said I carry the chip and and talked about it. I
didn't have one to show them. But I went to my bag because
somebody asked me for a pen to write down on the evaluation
forms. And I popped the poker chip. And then I saw her she was
still standing there talking. So I went over kind of waited for a
sec and showed her it. I remember the poker chip was
talking about you seem so interested in this is it here.
And then she tried to guess what PMA stood for for like 10
minutes. And she was really close the whole time. But as we
were both apart, I said, You know what, why don't you take
it? I said, I got my make them. Like I got lots of them. And I
said, I like giving them out like this, because you'll
probably tell the story to somebody else. And it'll get
them into a positive mental attitude. Maybe they'll print
the chips. Anyway. She started crying after about five minutes,
as we were still talking and I'm like, oh, what just happened
here. And she told me that her boyfriend had died six months
before of an overdose. And he was in the program AAA. And I
guess in this part of Florida, they have colored poker chips,
which I think they do with most aid things. But the one that for
60 days is a red poker chip. And she said it only occurred to her
because she's tries not to think about it. It only occurred to
her. After a few minutes that he the last two poker chip you
shoulder was a red poker chip. Oh my good now I have given her
a red poker chip. For her What that meant is this is him
telling me he's watching over me. Yes, of course. So that gets
written in the book because what I'm trying to say that's a
synchronicity to me. Yes, of
Janice Porter: course. It's fantastic. I love it. Okay, I'm
gonna start writing them down. Please do so. So that story that
just happened between us around Dorie Clark, is that a
synchronicity for you? And me? Or just you?
Corey Poirier: I mean, that's that's an interesting question.
And this is where honestly, like, I struggled with, I was
definitely and I say it often, I was a spiritual skeptic for most
of my life. And I still am to a large degree. So like I struggle
with like astral projection. And the idea that I could be above
my body looking down like, I'm just not there yet. And and I
don't know if I will get there, or if I will, or ascending the
idea of ascending. I'm still not there yet. So, so for me, I
struggle when people give you an absolute answer to something
like that, because I believe ultimately, it's our
speculation. Like, I believe it's like, this is what I
believe. Fine. People say this is what that means. Yeah, that's
a good yeah. Like, how, how did you become the person that knows
that when the only way we could know that is to be on the other
side if, if we believe in the other side? Somebody recently
his name is Vinny, and I'm gonna see him next week at the writers
retreat in Utah. And Vinnie died for 72 hours is that Vinnie, the
podcast guy, he has a podcast I'm trying to think of his last
name, but he has a book about
Janice Porter: so then he has a tea no or no. Okay. No,
Corey Poirier: no, no, I know who you mean. No, this year as
well. If the guy I'm thinking about you're talking about he's
a speaker gray hair.
Janice Porter: Used to be MTV guy. Okay,
Corey Poirier: no, totally different people. I think
Janice Porter: there's a good podcast is the name of his
podcast,
Corey Poirier: I think. Got him. I think this guy does have a
podcast, but I'm trying to remember the name his book. I
haven't here somewhere. But basically Oh, there it is. I
think oh,
Janice Porter: wait, it's not Vincent. It's not this book.
Nope. That was scare me if it was that book. No, I
Corey Poirier: know him through. It's this guy. Life after Death.
Coleman. I mean, they call them Vinnie, Vinnie Vegas, because he
lives in Vegas. Yeah, but he died. It says he said that. It
says here. This is this is the front of it. At age 25. Vincent
Tolman was pronounced that and put in a body bag. Nearly an
hour later, he miraculously came back to life. This is his story.
But what he told me is that, technically, he was dead a lot
longer than that, because they didn't find him for a day and a
half, like, a few days or something. So the reason I bring
this up, only the main reason I bring this up is now if Vincent
tells me this is what's on the other side. I can, I can
understand why he believes that firmly. Because there's not many
people that have died for that long to tell you that. So this
is what I saw on the other side, then, okay, I'm gonna have to
buy into course yeah, what I'm saying is most people say this
is this is what's true. And so that was a long answer to your
question. Was a synchronicity for me or for you? I think,
personally, it's probably what each of us assigns to it. In
other words, if I think it's for both of us, and it's for both of
us to me, if you think it's for you, then it's for you. But what
do I take from it? Again, it gets hard to get and there's a
lot of people that will say this one it means just like dreams,
right? if that's what your dream means, but whoever was that, who
became the authority on that, like, Where was that proven that
if your dream is that means this. So the same thing with
this is that I think for me, what it means is you and I are
in the right place at the right time doing this interview. Me,
it's just a validation, you're on the right track. But somebody
else could certainly assign a bigger meaning. Like, for
example, both of us are so semester's tour Dory, right
after this, and say, Hey, don't worry, we're just talking about
you. Because we have a message for you. Like it's an in the
book I talked about, oh, James says, if you see somebody
multiple times, then they probably have a message for you.
For me, I think it's ultimately what we believe that's what we
should go with. So. So another weird example, around intuition
for me if we were going on a trip one time, and I was going
to be getting the book on my red carpet, in Nashville with my
publisher. And it was right around May 2020. And we were
driving to the airport. And my wife was pregnant, and we asked
her doctor, is it safe to go COVID is just starting. And she
said, there's only one case and all the tendency you should be
fine. We had the sniffles and cold. So it wouldn't have
probably been good anyway, because we would have went there
as the people that they thought had COVID Even though we didn't,
but we I got a text and said your flights delayed. And so my
The reason I bring this up is because some people would say,
well, everything's meant to be canceled, the flights delayed.
But if I went with that, Janice, every flight I'm on is delayed,
I would never go anywhere. So me I see think I need a bigger sign
than just your flights delayed. So I got a second text on the
way to the airport saying your flights delayed. And I the first
one I said is that the universe testing us or telling us the
second one, I said Who universe is really testing me. And then
we were about 10 months away from the airport. Third your
flights late, I said, the universe just told us not to go
on this trip. My point is I need the universe to drill it into my
head, not just say your flights laid once. And then we got to
the counter and the lady. We said like we only had an hour
and a half to go through customs with a pregnant wife. And start
with she said all I can tell you I can't say much. But I'm
looking at the screen and you won't make your next flight. So
we wouldn't have made it we were only going for four days. We
already were sneezing and coughing, like everything about
it said don't go on this trip. What I'm saying though, is I
need more than assign than just a Texas as your flights delayed.
But some people that would be enough if they only travel once
here, they say, Oh, this trip is off? something's gonna happen
with the plane? Well, what I'm saying is, I think it's whatever
you assign to it, if that works for them. Great. But for me, I
need more of a sign. I need the universe to beat me over the
head a little bit before I get
Janice Porter: Oh, fantastic stuff. So let's just wrap up
with some some information from my listeners about your book,
because it's not well, it might be close when this airs, because
it's the end of May now it'll probably be about a month, your
book is going is in pre order. Yes. Tell us about where they
can get it and so on. Yeah,
Corey Poirier: so it is in preorder, meaning people can
order it right now. If you get it right now, the thing I'll say
is, depending on your listing, but if you're listening while
the bonus is still exists, my my suggestion would be get it now,
because it comes with bonuses that will eventually disappear.
And there's five instant bonuses that come with the book, when
you buy it. Those are like immediately you get them on your
email. And then on top of that, there's, you know, we shared
this, you heard me say this, I think, offline, I'm gonna share
this with you, but we have some other live events coming up. And
they're virtual events. And if you buy the book before, I'll
say if you are on the list after buying the book before these
events, you get to attend events all for free. And we have an
event coming up with Ken Honda and Janet Attwood live event you
can attend. Richard Paul Evans and Mark Victor Hansen and
Crystal Hansen. We have one cup that's kind of fascinating to
me. We have one coming up with Brian Austin Green from anger
management 92 Randy spelling Fernando and Sharna Burgas,
which is Dancing with the Stars. She's married to find dream.
Yeah. So it's gonna be like 902101. So we have all these
complex? Shawna? Shawna, right, sure. And and then we have a
live virtual bootcamp we do usually once or twice a year and
it's coming up. And basically by getting the book you're in for
all any of those that are still to happen after you get the book
and you get the five instant bonuses. So to me, it makes
sense if you can get all those things. So a $16.95 cent book.
So the answer the question how they will get it is and if you
can probably include a link in the show notes. Yes, of course.
If they go to the main link for the book, then when they get it,
they get it they're extending themselves to the retailer site
so they still pay the same price they still get at the same
place. But when you get it through our site, you come back
put the order number in and then you get in for all that stuff. I
said okay God, Barnes and Noble or Amazon on your own we can't
send you those gifts because we don't even know your bottoms.
They don't share it with us. So
Janice Porter: that tells me the link again is
Corey Poirier: Sonos. Yeah, it's this is the book.com. So this
He's a bit.com
Janice Porter: perfect because I'm looking on Amazon now and
I'm sitting thinking, I don't see any bonuses or anything. So
yes. Okay, that will be in there, this is the book.com. And
that will allow you to go buy it, bring you the, the receipt
to proof of purchase, and then you're eligible for all those
things. That's fantastic. I'm very excited for you. I think
this is going to be huge. I think it's, I so enjoyed this
reading it and it's a quick read, it's a great book to share
with others, especially like you said, the things that you would
teach your your children, you know, it's kind of like get the
young people who are just coming up to start thinking about these
things and think this way, because you know, it I wish I'd
known some of these things earlier than I did, you know,
start to explore the, the the ideas of intuition and
synchronicity and all of those good things. So. So thank you,
thank you for being here. And I appreciate your time and my
audience. I really encourage you to check this out. Check Corys
work out and do get involved with with what he does, because
I think it's really I think he's onto something big here bigger
than before. So congratulations. Thank you for being here. Again
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