In today's environment, is property still
Speaker:the number one vehicle? And I'm going to put some numbers to you to
Speaker:make you think about either do you invest in Bitcoin or
Speaker:property. In this case, we're not putting the $100,000 into property.
Speaker:We're going to put the $100,000 straight into Bitcoin. And
Speaker:at 29%, let's see what the numbers work
Speaker:out. Things are going up so fast right now that the money that you've got
Speaker:sitting in your bank account is not even keeping up with inflation. So
Speaker:in fact, you're going backwards. The point of this video is just
Speaker:to seem to get your mind thinking about the possibilities and
Speaker:the potential of investing in what I consider the greatest asset
Speaker:of our generation. I'm Matthew Fraser, and this is
Speaker:Crypto Collective. After making millions with Amazon and e-commerce,
Speaker:I realized that if I was starting again today, crypto would
Speaker:be my first choice. I'm here to help you take your first
Speaker:steps and build real wealth. Ready to set yourself up
Speaker:for life? Let's go. Hey guys, welcome to
Speaker:Crypto Collective. My name is Matthew Fraser. And in today's episode, we're
Speaker:going to discuss why real estate investors are terrified of
Speaker:Bitcoin's insane returns. Now, if you
Speaker:had $100,000 right now, would you invest in property or
Speaker:Bitcoin? And today, I'll break down the numbers, the
Speaker:pros and the cons to help you decide which path could
Speaker:lead to greater wealth. Now, I was talking to a friend just the other day
Speaker:who's at a crossroads. He has investment properties, but can't borrow
Speaker:any more money due to serviceability. So we discussed an
Speaker:alternative, Bitcoin, and the numbers might
Speaker:surprise you. Now, real estate has been a tried and true
Speaker:investment for decades. But in a world where Bitcoin's annual
Speaker:returns absolutely dwarf property growth, is
Speaker:it time to rethink your strategy? Now, admittedly,
Speaker:I've been in the property game myself for decades and having grown
Speaker:up in the 90s, I came out of high school in the workforce in
Speaker:the very late 90s. And all I did was think about buying
Speaker:more property. I read a ton of books about buying property. But of course, back
Speaker:then, there was no Bitcoin. So the vehicle to wealth seemed to
Speaker:be property. So Australians have been indoctrinated into
Speaker:buying more real estate. And look, admittedly, it has been a
Speaker:good way to create wealth and has kickstarted me to
Speaker:where I am now. But in today's environment,
Speaker:is property still the number one vehicle? And I'm
Speaker:going to put some numbers to you to make you think about either
Speaker:do you invest in Bitcoin or property or maybe
Speaker:you do a hybrid and invest in both. So let's take a look at the numbers.
Speaker:So imagine a $500,000 property growing at Let's
Speaker:just say 10%, even though the numbers suggest really
Speaker:it's closer to 7% annual growth on average. But
Speaker:let's just give it the benefit of the doubt and give it a boost and say 10%. Now
Speaker:that's versus $100,000 in Bitcoin
Speaker:compounding at what Michael Saylor says into the future, the
Speaker:next 20 years at least, will be a base case of
Speaker:29% annual compounding growth rate. So which
Speaker:do you think wins after 20 years? Let's dive in.
Speaker:So let's talk about serviceability. Now serviceability has a
Speaker:cap in real estate. Now serviceability means how much can you
Speaker:borrow from the financial institution, namely your
Speaker:major banks. And that's going to be based on your
Speaker:current debts plus also what your income
Speaker:is. And at some point along the scale, you're
Speaker:going to get to a point, like most people do, where you simply can't
Speaker:borrow any more money from the bank. The
Speaker:reason why that is the case, as I mentioned before. So in order to get more money,
Speaker:you've either got to decrease debts or increase income. Now, income
Speaker:can mean through rental properties or from your day job. So
Speaker:essentially, there are borrowing limits which restrict further property
Speaker:investments for some individuals. So alternative investment options.
Speaker:I suggest, say, $100,000 into Bitcoin instead of
Speaker:leaving it idle, saving for future properties. Now, the historical returns
Speaker:on Bitcoin, just so you know, over the past decade has
Speaker:been over 60% compounding interest per
Speaker:annum. And the last four years has been 55%. And
Speaker:this year alone, in 2024, has been over 100%. So
Speaker:the numbers are there. That's the evidence we've got. Compared that
Speaker:to if you had that same money sitting in property, the property would
Speaker:have done somewhere between 7%, maybe even 10% over the past 10, 20 years. Alright
Speaker:guys, now I want to show you the actual numbers. I'm going to
Speaker:show you this so you can see it with your own eyes on a spreadsheet. And
Speaker:keep in mind too, when I talk about the future growth potential of
Speaker:Bitcoin, look, nothing is certain. So this is not financial
Speaker:advice. Do your own research. But what I can tell
Speaker:you, as I mentioned before, is Michael Saylor is thinking, who's
Speaker:a Bitcoin evangelist. He's a pretty smart guy. He's thinking
Speaker:29% annual growth rate. As a base case, some are suggesting upwards
Speaker:of 50% compounding annual growth rate.
Speaker:And so let's have a look at those numbers and see how it compares to
Speaker:if you had that same money sitting in a property. All right, so we're going to
Speaker:put in our $500,000. So $500,000 is
Speaker:what's going to be exposed in the market for the property. Because
Speaker:don't forget, you're putting $100,000 in, but it's also leveraged. That
Speaker:is a big difference. The bank is putting in $400,000. So we want to
Speaker:see at 7%, $500,000. Now, if you don't have this, I
Speaker:strongly suggest you get one of these compound interest apps. They
Speaker:are a lifesaver, and I literally live on this thing. Just maybe even pause this
Speaker:now and actually go and download the app for yourself so
Speaker:you can follow along. So the first thing I'm going to do is look at
Speaker:the $500,000 at 7% over 10 years. So after
Speaker:10 years, this property we expect to be
Speaker:worth just over $1 million. Now
Speaker:let's just see while we're here, what is this property expected to be worth after 20 years?
Speaker:Still at the 7%. and it's just over 2 million.
Speaker:So I'll just put in 2 million there. Now,
Speaker:in this case, we're not putting the $100,000 into
Speaker:property. We're going to put the $100,000 straight into
Speaker:Bitcoin. And at 29%, let's
Speaker:see what the numbers work out. So already, at
Speaker:29%, in a decade's time, it is going to be $1.8 million. Far ahead of the property example.
Speaker:And let's see what it's going to be over 20 years. Wow.
Speaker:$32 million. That is completely incredible.
Speaker:But as I said before, it could be upwards of 50% annual
Speaker:growth rate for Bitcoin. So let's just see what
Speaker:that is going to look like. So we're still using $100,000. We're going to put 50% into the calculator over 10 years.
Speaker:And we're going to be at $14.5 million
Speaker:in 10 years. And then at 20 years, this is just off
Speaker:the chart. Absolutely off the chart. This is going to be $2 billion
Speaker:thereabouts. A bit over $2 billion. Totally insane.
Speaker:Absolutely insane. So when you compare those two,
Speaker:there is really no reason to go
Speaker:into property unless you don't have the conviction that
Speaker:Bitcoin is going to do those returns or that Bitcoin is
Speaker:the safest asset. You might be thinking that Bitcoin
Speaker:is just pie-in-the-sky stuff. So if you're thinking that, then
Speaker:this is obviously not for you. So let's just say that Bitcoin is not for you.
Speaker:And you've got this $100,000 still. You still can't borrow any
Speaker:more money from the bank to buy more property. Let's say you just
Speaker:put it in term deposit. Right now, term deposit is
Speaker:giving you 5.5%. So over
Speaker:10 years, your $100,000 is going to
Speaker:turn into a whopping $173,000. It's not even going to keep up
Speaker:what we call the hurdle rate. The hurdle rate is inflation. Things
Speaker:are going up so fast right now that the money that you've got
Speaker:sitting in your bank account is not even keeping up with inflation. So
Speaker:in fact, you're going backwards. And some say the hurdle rate right
Speaker:now is 14% or 15% per annum. So that's what
Speaker:you've got to think about when you're putting your money into an investment. Am I getting
Speaker:at least 14 or 15 percent return which
Speaker:is staying ahead of inflation. So let's
Speaker:say that you do invest this $100,000 into Bitcoin and
Speaker:as you can see you're going to have somewhere between 1.8 to
Speaker:14.5 million dollars worth of Bitcoin value. And let's just
Speaker:say at this point you decide that you still want to buy property.
Speaker:Well you've got a couple of options. One is you could sell some or
Speaker:all of the Bitcoin and go and put that towards a property now whether that be
Speaker:another deposit on a property or you buy
Speaker:the property outright with their funds from Bitcoin or
Speaker:the other option is you actually hold on to the Bitcoin and
Speaker:borrow against the Bitcoin to buy property. So this is
Speaker:where you can find that property and Bitcoin can work together.
Speaker:And there's already companies in the US who are
Speaker:already offering loans on Bitcoin to
Speaker:buy property. Okay, so this is not something that's pie in
Speaker:the sky. It's happening right now. Now, admittedly, the Australian banks haven't
Speaker:caught on to this, but there are financial institutions right
Speaker:now in Australia who lend against Bitcoin. So
Speaker:here would be the idea. Let's just use the 1.8 million dollars
Speaker:Okay, 10 years time you've got 1.8 million dollars sitting in Bitcoin. You
Speaker:can now borrow up to 50% of the value of
Speaker:that Bitcoin so you could borrow out $900,000 from
Speaker:the financial institution and here's the benefit we're doing that one
Speaker:is you're not selling the Bitcoin so you're still going to keep exposure
Speaker:to the market because it could still go up and as you can see over that
Speaker:up to 20 years it's going to go up to 32 million
Speaker:dollars. So why would you want to sell the 1.8 million
Speaker:and miss out on the on the potential gains? So you
Speaker:keep the Bitcoin and by keeping the Bitcoin you now don't have
Speaker:to pay any capital gains tax. And by
Speaker:borrowing the $900,000 or up to $900,000 on
Speaker:that Bitcoin, that is a loan. So that is
Speaker:now not treated as income. So again, it's not
Speaker:a taxable event. So you're going to get the full $900,000. Now, admittedly,
Speaker:yes, there is going to be some interest component on that. But
Speaker:as in the property scenario at 7%, I haven't
Speaker:taken into account any tax deductions, any income
Speaker:from the property. I'm just looking at just comparing growth for
Speaker:growth. That's it. Not any other tax benefits. Because
Speaker:you might find that with property, you're writing some things off there, renovations, or
Speaker:maybe you're flipping the property, which is fine. But if you're in a position where
Speaker:you can't buy any more property, this could be the
Speaker:option for you. And you might even find that after 5 to
Speaker:10 years, you might be questioning why you're even in property altogether.
Speaker:Hey, just quickly, if you're ready to dive deeper into crypto and Bitcoin and
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Speaker:community. It's where I share exclusive insights and strategies and
Speaker:live discussions to help you succeed, whether you're a beginner or
Speaker:scaling your portfolio. Click on the link in the description and join
Speaker:us today. Now back to the episode. So guys, the point of
Speaker:this video is just to simply get your mind thinking about
Speaker:the possibilities and the potential of investing in what
Speaker:I consider the greatest asset of our
Speaker:generation. It is generational wealth that
Speaker:equals Bitcoin. Now, all that said, I'm giving you all these amazing
Speaker:numbers, but there's something that I'm not telling you.
Speaker:And I'll tell you now. And that is that it really comes down
Speaker:to your own self-belief in the asset and potentially
Speaker:if you have a wife or a husband that's also
Speaker:going to be involved. So let me tell you a quick little side note story about
Speaker:myself because you're going to say, well, Matt, you've got properties. Are
Speaker:you now selling all of your properties to put it into Bitcoin? And
Speaker:what I will say is it has been a journey for me. So as over the last
Speaker:few years as I've been more educated in the Bitcoin space, I
Speaker:start thinking about, why am I holding onto these properties? And
Speaker:only in the past 12 months, I came to the realization, well, not
Speaker:only did I move all of my superannuation over
Speaker:into Bitcoin, and for most people, when I say that, their jaw
Speaker:drops to the floor because, again, we're indoctrinated in Australia thinking
Speaker:that superannuation is the lifesaver for
Speaker:our retirement, which I hate to say it again, but please
Speaker:go and search some of my self-managed superfund videos on
Speaker:transferring that into Bitcoin because I think it's something that you should definitely look
Speaker:at because you will start realizing that probably the
Speaker:superannuation you've got now is not going to cut it when you retire. But that's a
Speaker:side note. So I have a wife, she's an amazing woman and
Speaker:I've had to, I guess, bring her along the journey as
Speaker:well because her money is my money and my money is her money.
Speaker:We're in it together, right? We're on the same wealth creation journey.
Speaker:And so you can't just come up with these ideas like
Speaker:what I've just presented to you and then just go to your wife or
Speaker:husband and say, okay, that's it. We're now just going to sell everything or we're now going to put
Speaker:all this money into Bitcoin. You've got to do the research and educate your
Speaker:partner on why this is the best thing in
Speaker:our situation and present her the facts or him the facts and
Speaker:then make the decision together. So over time, as I've said, I've moved
Speaker:all our superannuation into Bitcoin and then the next step
Speaker:from that, once that was sort of worked out and things are looking great, then
Speaker:it's looking at the properties like, is this property serving
Speaker:us the best and i can tell you that right now i'm
Speaker:in the process of selling uh one of my commercial properties that
Speaker:will net me about five or six hundred thousand dollars and i'm going to move
Speaker:all that into bitcoin now that is again
Speaker:for most people a huge deal but it takes time as
Speaker:you progress down this journey of understanding bitcoin so That
Speaker:is probably the biggest hurdle a lot of people I speak to even when they're at the
Speaker:very beginning of wanting to put a hundred dollars in or a thousand dollars
Speaker:in of their of their money there's always a roadblock and
Speaker:Most times it's the partner. Okay, because they
Speaker:don't believe in the asset and it's only because don't
Speaker:understand it and that's why you've got to educate them and bring them along the journey
Speaker:with you. So now that we've looked at the property versus
Speaker:Bitcoin in a macro level and looking at the growth of each one, let's
Speaker:break it down into each asset class and discuss the
Speaker:the pros and the cons for you to consider. So one
Speaker:of the pros with property is that it creates
Speaker:cash flow through rental income. The other thing you can do with property
Speaker:is increase its value through things like renovations or
Speaker:developments. And it's a tangible, physical
Speaker:asset, which some people love the idea of going to
Speaker:visit the property and touching it and seeing it. And depending
Speaker:on how you look at real estate, you would say that it is a more stable
Speaker:asset as opposed to the volatility of the
Speaker:property. So in Australia, it's not usual that
Speaker:you see 50% or 60% drops in
Speaker:real estate. I mean, can that happen? Sure. If you're investing
Speaker:in the wrong property and things like high-rise units, for
Speaker:example, particularly in Sydney and Melbourne, they haven't moved in
Speaker:value for some of them over a decade. So you've got
Speaker:to be careful in that respect. Some of the cons when it comes to property, and
Speaker:this is probably one of the biggest ones lately, particularly with
Speaker:residential property, is increasing government regulations.
Speaker:Things like rental caps, So it dictates how much you
Speaker:can and can't charge or how much you can increase it by. There's
Speaker:also things like this on a basic level, you now can't even decide if
Speaker:a tenant is to bring in a pet into your property. That
Speaker:is now basically illegal. You can't discriminate based
Speaker:on pets. But you might not want a pet in your property. And
Speaker:that should be your decision. But unfortunately, because the government hasn't
Speaker:met the demands of properties, as
Speaker:in reducing red tape, green tape, black tape, and
Speaker:having a huge migration intake, it
Speaker:has really, really stuffed up the residential sector
Speaker:and housing within Australia. So they're now shifting the
Speaker:blame onto private investors of properties,
Speaker:and therefore regulating it to the hilt, including things like Airbnb.
Speaker:If you look at somewhere like Melbourne or Victoria, they've
Speaker:now got a Airbnb tax. So trying
Speaker:to move people out of the rental market. That's
Speaker:why most of my properties are actually in commercial space. The
Speaker:other thing to think about with properties is you've got an ongoing cost
Speaker:of maintenance, property agents, fees,
Speaker:and land taxes. That is a big one. Whereas
Speaker:with Bitcoin, you don't have those ongoing costs. Well, there's so many pros
Speaker:when it comes to Bitcoin. And if we look at it just compared to property,
Speaker:one is there's no tenants. You don't have to worry about them at all. There's no tradespeople, there's
Speaker:no agents, no maintenance, no taxes, no
Speaker:government agencies to deal with. It's completely maintenance-free.
Speaker:Okay, as long as you've got a computer, you're good. The other great thing
Speaker:about Bitcoin is it's portability right
Speaker:with property let's just say you want to move overseas and you want to take all your
Speaker:assets with you you can't just pick up the property and take
Speaker:it with you right just not going to happen but with bitcoin you
Speaker:can just move overseas and the bitcoin comes with you no matter where
Speaker:you go okay so some of the cons to think about with bitcoin probably the
Speaker:number one thing is it has no direct cash flow, unlike
Speaker:property that obviously gets some sort of a rental income. The other thing would be volatility
Speaker:in the short term. Now, for me, I actually like volatility. Now,
Speaker:it can be volatility not just to the downside, which is what a lot of
Speaker:people think about when you say volatility. They think, oh, the market's just crashing. But
Speaker:it's also volatility in the market to the
Speaker:upside. So for example, just in November 2024, it
Speaker:went up like 40 plus percent. So that was volatility to
Speaker:the upside, which is a great thing for Bitcoin. So when you're thinking
Speaker:about property versus Bitcoin, there are many different voices and
Speaker:many different opinions. But I can tell you that even some
Speaker:of the big players in the Bitcoin space, they're even
Speaker:talking about selling Bitcoin to buy real
Speaker:estate. Whereas myself, I talk about selling
Speaker:real estate to buy Bitcoin. And it really depends on where you are in
Speaker:your journey. What I have found is that the younger you are,
Speaker:let's say you don't have real estate, but you do have Bitcoin, it
Speaker:might be something to think about to sell the Bitcoin or leverage against the
Speaker:Bitcoin to buy property. Now, I'm not talking about an investment property, maybe
Speaker:it's your very first property. So I have no problem with that. We
Speaker:love to have our own castle and I've got my own castle and
Speaker:I think there's nothing wrong with that. But as far as investing goes, I
Speaker:dare say that as we move into the future, I will offload probably
Speaker:all of my investment properties and allocate those profits
Speaker:into Bitcoin. And so it really comes down to your own
Speaker:personal preference, your own risk profile, and
Speaker:what you want to see for yourself and
Speaker:your family into the future. So guys, as we focus on
Speaker:the future, in my opinion, Bitcoin offers unmatched
Speaker:growth potential and flexibility for long-term generational
Speaker:wealth building. And if you'd like to know more, look at different scenarios when
Speaker:it comes to property and Bitcoin, make sure you jump into my
Speaker:Crypto Collective community. It's free. There's lots of
Speaker:resources there. Look forward to seeing you then. Take care. Thanks
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