When you go through those periods I'm sure you're feeling this right now

All you wanna do is just grind

You're just like dude screw everything

I'm locked in

All I wanna do is see you know the next biggest number in my bank account

Caleb thank you for coming

Of course thanks for having me

step up

Do this as fast as you can grind 24 seven a year

You're nothing yeah for not doing a million year

Like the younger you do it the better

Like the younger you do it the better you get to miss out on so much so much life

Yeah right so it's really refreshing to the fact that hearing you say like it was easy and like you being happy

I can see like you're happy

I think every kid should go through that as they kind of make their way up into the world is have those Rocky cutscenes

But I will say I've reached a point in my life that I'm realizing that I just want to enjoy life

OF course

I wish I would have done $250,000 the first year

That'd be great

It look cool on paper

I don't think for me that it is worth it

to take like a massive hit on my mental state possibly not have the relationship that I'm in

when it when it gets really really hard

That's when you know alright this is where everybody quits

Uh huh this is how to be successful

This is where everybody falls off and this is where I am willing to be better than everybody else cause I'm willing to push through it

That's when you make money

Yeah are things are hard for a reason

Exactly

If you have to give someone a list of

habits of things that they would have to look into themselves and fix in order to become the perfect husband

maybe bullet points traits habits of things that they would have to look into themselves and fix in order to become

the perfect husband or a reflection of the perfect partner

What would those be

Um I would say the first one would be

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Caleb thank you for coming

Of course thanks for having me

Yeah dude it's um it's it's funny because though I know you because one time I searched up how to change my oil on an X Mark no how to change oil on an X Mark on YouTube

And then you showed up and I was like hold on I think I've seen him somewhere else and then I went on the uh on the directory like everyone's pictures and I was like oh shit he's right there

And that's all I got was this I made the uh was this before or after I made your maintenance plan

Oh this is way before way before that tell you about that

Yeah I did ever give him a maintenance play

I love it I love that

There's so many guys that have no idea like me and you are different

Yeah cause we've just grown up in it more mechanically

Yeah I guess yeah I've arranged since I was a kid

Yeah you know so many people haven't ever touched anything mechanical yeah which I think is awesome

If you're willing to like dive into an industry that is solely about operating you know something whether it's a weedier blower or mower um to dive into that without any external knowledge like that's great

I love that I love to see that

I know I had to do

I probably watch that video over like 10 times just that single video no way changing oil

Yeah it's just it's yeah simple easy and it but I will say dude yeah we could dive into that

It's a whole thing but like the drain plugs are weird

Yeah it's just it's a strange setup

It's crazy

I put I put a few videos out there

I wanted to make more of them

Um there's a whole bunch of reasons as to why I didn't really do more

Um but I like to just put stuff out there for my guys that I was managing at the time

That way they could just go and watch them learn stuff

Um I didn't even consider making them public

Um but I was like well somebody else wants to search this up then they can do so

I guess I'll go ahead and put a pause on this for just a second

This is Caleb

He he is a I don't know I guess an owner of a location here indeed in a Tennessee auxal area

Um yeah you wanna tell a little bit about that

Yeah so I am west of the Knoxville branch

My dad Jason Stortz owns the Knoxville branch and the Merrival branch

Um and I just started the Farragut branch which is which is just west of of the Knoxville branch

Started at the beginning of the season been doing lawn care for a long time but wanted to start my own gig

And here we are a year in

So how's it like

Love it really

It's so nice doing my own gig because you get to see uh me growing up in it

This is really all I've ever known but I've never respected what it takes to start something new

Um and seeing the ins and outs of it and being able to navigate it for myself and have my own opinion

Uh is is super healthy and it's helped me learn a lot and I've loved it so much

It's great

I'm having a blast where you at and like business wise revenue revenue is probably 92 I think especially with the last leaf job we just did which was massive

I think that was like thirty eight hundred dollar leaf job leaf cleanup

We were at 46 man hours or maybe a little bit more than maybe a little over

Um yeah I would love to close out at 100 grand dude

It's been an easy year

I've just been coasting like straight up I haven't pushed at all

I'm in a new relationship experiencing a lot of different things in my life right now personal life and I wanted to push a lot harder but I've built a pickup truck that I've always wanted to kind of toy around with and yeah just having fun man

Something that you don't know about I don't know about it but I like it though

Yeah I think I think it's important and it kind of what you're talking about just having fun kind of closing a little bit just taking your time with things

Yeah it's something you don't see often because we're built in like this culture has been built in

So like yo you gotta do it now

You gotta do it right now

You gotta step up do this as fast as you can

Grind 24 seven a year you're nothing

Yeah if you're not doing a million year like the younger you do it the better which it has this prose right but absolutely has is like own cause and no one talks about right

You get to miss out on so much so much life

Yeah right

So it's really refreshing to the fact that hearing you say like you know we're taking it easy and like you being happy

I can see like you're happy on here

Yeah I'm I'm thrilled with like I would of course I wish I would have done 250,000 the first year

That'd be great

It look cool on paper but I don't I don't think for me that it is worth it uh to take like a massive hit on my mental state

Um possibly not have the relationship that I'm in which I wouldn't trade for the world

Um and just I don't know just not enjoy it as much

Uh I burn out super easily um and so which I've Learned in the past and so I'm so much more willing to just like we're gonna get it eventually

I don't care if it takes me you know 10 years like I'll be there bro

I'll still be in the game and we're gonna be enjoying every bit of it not just um you know getting there as fast as humanly possible

It's so crazy like it's just hearing that I'm kind of like shocked cause every single person I talk to up to now including myself

Yeah it's just like go go go go go go yeah right like we have five year plans get to a million five years

Yeah do it as fast as I can no matter what like you pay any single price you lose whoever you need to lose you'll break whatever you need to break

You can break yourself as many times you need to break but you're gonna get it done right

So just hearing like no I don't want to like I don't wanna break things

I wanna go slow

I don't wanna burn out

Yeah I wanna take care of my people

I wanna take care of myself my mental health

It's it's really refreshing

I think that's slightly a problem um cause like one of the one of the things that like little context clues before I joined I guess I spoke to your father Jason

Yep um and the number one thing that I told him was like I'm not gonna try to be the New Augusta guy that goes and breaks records

Yeah yeah I just want to be able to grow slowly and I have the struggle while I'm growing to learn the systems and stuff like that

Yeah

So I think that kind of impressed um Jason as well

It's like one of the things he said at the end of our little dinner was like I actually think that you'll succeed because you're not trying to be all excited and gun ho about Augusta

And you know I'm gonna show my candies I'm the best

Yeah you know whatever

So I think part of that is like I think I'm slightly on Caleb's idea here with it is like yes I want to get to that point but again I'm gonna do what I can but I'm not gonna over maximize myself

So like last year um I took pause on joining Augusta and committing to Augusta

Like I joined but I didn't transfer the business over to Augusta because I was tapped out personally

So like I was not willing to break everything like you're saying to do that

And I think part of that problem is unrealistic expectations of new people in the game

Like one of the expectations that I harped on you about was labor because you're like I'm gonna do half a million next year

And I was like labor is gonna be your constraint

You're like no it's not gonna be a problem

And then it became a problem it became a big problem and then I pull my hair all all season long and it was absolutely horrible so it's it's it's crazy

Where where does that

Did you have to teach yourself that or did you would you just always like you know myself first

No I've always uh I've always wanted to do the most but I will say that dude I think I think the biggest thing for me right now is being in a super healthy relationship um changes everything about the way you perceive life

Um and yeah I haven't had one of those

Yes it's tough bro I I've been through a decent amount of relationships that are super painful

Um and when you go through those periods I'm sure you're feeling this right now

All you wanna do is just grind

You're just like dude screw everything

I'm locked in all I wanna do is see you know the next biggest number in my bank account uh or whatever that goal is that you're chasing

And that was me for the longest time and there's there's parts of that that are good

I think every kid should go through that as they kind of make their way up into the world is have those rocky cut scenes

But I will say I've reached a point in my life that I'm realizing that I just want to enjoy life every aspect of it whether it be the good or the bad

And up to this point I've just hated the bad

And now I realize that like the bad is great because without the bad there is no good

And there's gonna be times this suck in business regardless of however hard you push yourself

Um and I wake up and go so much harder when I give myself Grace and speak kindly to myself and have a good mental space to work from

Um I don't I don't feel like it is common place these days for men to really put their mental health first

And when you start doing that and realizing that your mental health is who you are as a person not just the voice inside your head

It literally controls every direction and every decision you make

Um it has a massive impact on your life and your outlook

Um the amount of money that ends up in your bank account um it's huge

And when you do that with a partner that also understands that and has that maturity to be able to accept the fact that what you're working hard towards um benefits the both of us regardless of the good or the bad

You know um I don't know if you guys follow the homoses

Yeah um Layla Homosi just came out with a new product line that says fuck your mood yeah stick with the plan

And I think that's beautiful um because there's there's there's nothing better than to just stick with the plan regardless of how you feel about it

And we take when you take a motion out of it and you just do the doing without the emotion it frees you up to just make the right decision

Uh huh um so no I haven't always been that way but I think when you try to eliminate emotion as much as you possibly can and just do the doing um you have a much more positive outlook on life

And I don't know anything else that I want more than to just be happy

You know if I'm not happy doing it then why I like what's the point

You know why

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Jesus something meaning of both of disgust

Yeah do you listen to Chris Williamson

Yeah oh yeah yeah cause you're sounding like him a lot

Um I don't know that I would have said that about what I just said but yeah I guess no it's the similarity there's a couple things that kind of reminded me

Um it's I don't know I'm kind of like I lost some worries not gonna lie

I I think that everything you said is kind of I think the thoughts in the back of my head whenever I'm going really hard

But yes like right now all I wanna do is just go hard go hard in the gym go hard with the podcast go hard in business

And that's what I've been doing for like the past couple months

And yes it's worked out great you know we hit every single goal we wanted to we're breathing through and it feels great for a couple seconds and then it's like fuck I just remembered how my life is right now

I am not happy

I have the money that I want I have the goals that I wanted and I'm just like yeah when when you go to sleep at night you're like hmm hmm it sucks

So I guess one of the things I would say is like are you happy cause you hit the goal or you happy because of the journey it took to get to the goal

I feel like if you struggle through the journey and you're not happy with the journey is the goal really worth it

Hmm yeah I don't know

I think there's I think there's definitely an addiction to the journey right

Like the chase right

It's really fun and it's really hard at some point

And I like doing hard things

I think it's a good I think it's a good build it builds your character builds your persona builds who you are says a lot about who you are as well

But when it comes to emotions when it comes to mental health and all that I always put on a bag burner and I'm always like I'll take care of that some point you know maybe when I'm not so busy or you know let me just get to this point that I'll worry about that stuff

You know I never looked at it from a standpoint of like um it's weakness

Like emotions are weakness and stuff

Like I don't think so at all

I think emotions are very powerful and stuff but I've also thought like you know it's okay to feel things not okay to react or have or do things based of your emotions

That's kind of where I where I've struggled in because I'm not an angry person

I'm not I don't like blow up on people or whatever

But when I get sad I get really sad and when I'm really down I'm really really down right

So it's like the extremes of it right

I something that I'm figure out I'd like you to weigh on this but I think that's part of him pushing it off for so long because then when it finally bubbles up it's just a boiling pot of water

It's not like he's ignoring it and then it comes to a head and it overflows

Yes I I agree

I mean I think anything that you let build up over a long period of time is is gonna have some sort of major effect on your life

Um but when you have a major changing point in your life regardless of what it is um

You're gonna be emotional about it

Hmm you know like it it kind of just is what it is

And for me I don't know I I I would say that I sometimes do avoid emotions but I think all men do to some extent

Yeah you know we're we're we're slightly less openly emotional beings uh than than women are

Um and I don't think that there's a right or wrong

Uh but I do think that the problem is when you start to see it affect other aspects of your life that you're not happy with it affecting

Hmm it's not a matter of like oh now my emotion is affecting my work

It's like okay well is that a bad thing to you

Do you not like that it's affecting your work

If you don't then maybe you should focus on dealing with the emotion doing something with it

Whether it's going to talk to a counselor or a therapist or uh you know going to the gym more often

If you feel that makes an impact on your mental health or well being

Um I think it's just a matter of determining for yourself

Is this good or bad for me

Right

Does this negatively affect things in my life

And if it does then that's when you should show it attention

Um cause I have had struggle in the past of knowing like okay when do I deal with this emotion

Like I have this negative like hurt in my heart when do I deal with it

And is it okay to just leave it alone

Cause I've been told in my life that I have no empathy or compassion

And I'm just oh my gosh this robot

And I'm like I don't necessarily feel like I am I just have different goals than you do

And you giving me advice is interesting because I wouldn't want your life anyways

So um would I don't know that I want to take that advice you know

And that's when I have to look at myself and say all right this isn't negatively impacting any light or any part of my life to a point that I'm unhappy with

And until it does we're gonna leave it alone

It's fine it's fine right where it is

Uh and sometimes that's that gives me motivation

Yeah it's like that negative heart uh makes me wake up and grind harder

And I kind of like that you know so if you channel it in that aspect or in that direction in that way it's like okay is it really a negative cause you can use hurt

Um I mean there's so many people that we listen to on a regular basis that have major terrible stories that you know massive terrible stories that they could share with us but they used it in a positive way to possibly impact their lives

So yeah I mean it's a good point

There's a lot of people that do that

I think one of the biggest things is like what is that called post relationship body

Like the girls have a good through a bad relationship and they get all fit and crazy but you have the guys all the time

I mean it happened to me

I know for a fact my the last serious relationship that you know took a horrible toll uh when it broke off

I mean I went from a very skinny person to you know somewhat fit in and I got my stuff together mentally

And then you know all this like revenge whatever you want to call it

Right

And I think well as a guy I think there's a couple of those moments in your life where you choose either hey I'm going to absolutely let this drain me and control me and I'm gonna blame the person and I'm gonna blame the fact that this happened and I'm gonna ruin my life or you know you can like you said let it fuel you let it be the reason why or one of the reasons why you choose to do great things or you choose to do something good for yourself

I definitely resonate with that

But you said earlier that right now you're in a healthy relationship and it's amazing for you and it's one of the main reasons why you're you know slow down and maybe take a second look at the flowers on the street appreciate the flowers in the street maybe appreciate the sun all this and all that

What how come to one of the thing one of the things I struggle with is appreciating the little things right the little things in life right appreciating a good conversation I appreciate good conversations never mind but like just pushing small stuff like things that you take for granted right

How can our relationship make you think twice and like let you slow down

I don't think it's the relationship

I think it is giving yourself time to heal to the point that you are okay being yourself and okay existing exactly who you are and realizing that you are who you're supposed to be right now in this space of time just being okay with that

And and I we all struggle with it

Yeah there's days that I wake up and I'm like dude I am disgusting I suck as a human being you know and then there's other days that I wake up and I I love everything like everything is just awesome this existence is incredible

Uh huh you're never gonna have both at once

Obviously you're gonna have UPS and you're gonna have downs just like you were saying earlier that your lows are pretty low but there's lots of people that talk about you know higher lows and lower highs just making it a little bit more even

But back to your point back to your question I don't think it's about a relationship

I don't think a relationship is what fixes that or what gives you that uh positive outlook on life

It's not um I didn't I didn't try and get back in a relationship

Um the relationship that I'm in happened kind of in a really strange very natural way

And I was always a guy that was on tinder or on these dating apps trying to find the one

I mean Alex Hermozi found Layla on on Bumble so that's what I was looking for you know a little Layla exactly

Um and that's not how it happened for me

And I don't think anybody is supposed to follow a blueprint of how to find the perfect wife or the perfect husband

You know um I think that the biggest thing the most important thing and the thing that I was missing out on all along is the fact that Layla and Alex were both daily trying to be better people

That's what their focus was

They were just doing what they felt like was the best um outreach to find their person which was online

And they would do that for a certain amount of time during each day

They would devote a certain amount of time to it

I think it was like on their lunch breaks or whatever

Um and it happened to be the same for both of them

They would devote that portion of time every single day to looking for their person

Um but the main point was the fact that they were trying to be better people

And until you are very okay with being alone and being single I I never I never found it to work for me

Just going in and looking it never work because I was I was always in I it always came from a place of I was trying to feel an emptiness and I was looking for like how do I slow down and appreciate

It's like you don't need to right now

You don't need to if you're feeling that urge don't like don't do that

Just stay in the grind and be okay with being you

Like be 100 you everyday

Just focus on you

Um and until you wake up and you're like bro I'm stoked with who I am as a person

Like this guy is awesome you know and until you feel that how are you going to love somebody else

If you can't fully love yourself every single aspect of who you are it's impossible to it's like I can't I don't have love in my heart for myself

How am I supposed to find some love

Where does it exist where does it come from and give it to you

If I don't have a Coke how am I supposed to give you a Coke

You know I can't I don't have one yet

I have to find my own Coke and then I can share the soda with you

And that's the way love is

Um if you don't love yourself if you don't have love in your heart it's very hard to to share with somebody else genuinely

It can be a facade

I think that there's lots of relationships that have love but it's not the love that loves on the hard days and the times that it doesn't feel easy

I think like what's your definition of love

Uh it's just sacrifice sacrifice

Yeah it's just sacrifice

Um if I and in it's it's an it's an ongoing thing obviously but I think uh my goal in life right now is just to make Savannah's life as easy as possible

And her goal is to make my life as easy as possible

And it's a competition of like okay how much how much how easy can I make your life

And hers is you know the same

And that's just sacrifice

It's just human sacrifice

It's let me take some time today to devote 100 of my attention to you whether that be in person or whether that be making your dinner or me um going out of my way to make sure that she's fully taken care of

Is there anything that I can possibly do for you today

That is just me sacrificing myself to you

Um it's an ongoing thing but I I think that that is the true definition of love in my opinion

I like that answer I love that answer

I I always thought um I I have the same definition sacrifice

I thought of it completely different

I think that um are you are you Christian

Um I yes I definitely believe in god and I think that there's a higher creator

I don't know exactly uh where I'm at in my journey

Yeah but yeah I would identify myself as that

Okay yeah so I like to use I like to use Jesus sacrifice as like the definition of love

Because like you know you have have this person that did all this throughout his whole life right devoted himself to other people

Put in put other people first blah blah blah

And then he did the absolute craziest thing in the world which is like die for everybody through and throughout the whole thing through the torture through the pain through the cries through the you know the lack of any kind of love towards him

He was just like no I choose to love you even more even more

So that would be my definition of sacrifice

But I like what you said

I like how it's every single day striving to make each other's life easier

However that looks like right like if you need a hug I'll give you a hug

If you need me to cook dinner because you're tired from work I'll cook you dinner

Right from both sides right not just from her side but also from your side

It's kind of like we were talking about earlier with Parker right as in like um are we talking about Caitlyn

We talking about something like Caitlyn of like compromise yeah caught like not necessarily compromising right but that's one of the things

It's just saying like communication right

It could takes communication it takes trust it takes her wanting to depend on you like we said earlier or like you choosing to ignore how not necessarily ignore but put her first of how you're feeling right because you want to do good by her

Yeah I think along that same line of thought

It is there is sacrifice but it's more like I don't feel like it's sacrifice because the only time that you give is when that person's battery if you wanna call it that that person's emotional battery or physical battery is lower than yours

Like if if I come home and I'm at 50% but she's at 20% you know I'm gonna we're gonna be equal by the time we go to bed you know I'm gonna do whatever I can to bring her up at least to my to my level

Um and and she does the same for me

Uh just like this morning for example we were in a bit of a rush but uh I knew she wasn't feeling the greatest and so I went made breakfast and had breakfast for

And she didn't even eat much of it which is fine by me

Because it it it's my job as as the man to provide for her

When I know that there is anything that I can do to help

Um and I don't I don't I don't feel like that's uh it it doesn't feel like sacrifice shouldn't feel like I'm having to you know it's like oh I got an inconvenience myself to help you

Yeah that's you have to want to do it

Oh yeah I'm thrilled dragging yourself through doing it

Yeah if that's the emotion you feel there's a problem there's a deeper problem than just dealing with the day in and day out

Right now then making the breakfast

Right right how do you you you you also said in order to be able to love someone you gotta love yourself right every single part of yourself

How do you achieve that from your personal journey

I think that's it comes back to just it to being 100 okay with who you are as person

Like there's they're not okay with it

I feel like you should see what you need to change

Like in my personal opinion I I think I so that I wanna bring up a couple minutes ago is like I hear you guys talking about that portion of it

I truly believe that as a person I grew up knowing who I am as a person like I never really had doubt on who I was

I was always very committed to that

I think that's what kind of established me into finding a relationship earlier than most like high school sweethearts getting married is because I never had to really like love find the love in myself to give that love to somebody

So I was always able to give my love to somebody cause I never really questioned who I was as a person or if I was happy with myself

I was just I knew I was a good person and was fine with that

Yeah I guess everybody's gonna have a different answer to that yeah um or different opinion in that aspect for themselves

I haven't always felt like I was a great person

I knew that I wasn't

Um there were there were a lot of times in my past that I was in very toxic relationships where I knew that uh there was a lot um in regards to the relationship that I was causing um downfall in

And and it was both sides of course but it's like okay well just because you're at you know 75 bad doesn't make it okay for me to be 50 bad

You know it's like that's not okay

Bad is bad right bad is bad regardless of the level

Um and so I I know that there were times in my past that I didn't feel like I was a great person um and that

Those are the times that it makes sense to step back even if you're in a relationship

It's like hey I need to take you know I need to take four hours a week to focus on me whether that's reading about certain things in your life that you need to improve on listening to podcasts uh you know just studying sitting and thinking letting your brain talk to itself

Um just sitting and thinking is huge sometimes

Sometimes you just need to relax and think because all we do is scroll or we work or we're having conversation

Like your brain is hardly ever just sitting still and just doing brain things which is called thinking

Yes and uh I think more people need to just sit and think and that helps in a lot of ways

Um it helps you understand who you are as a person and where you need to improve on

Uh and just like you were saying Parker if you if you you've never really felt like you've been in a position to find yourself you've always kind of known who you are as a person

Um

And so uh you know I experienced things a lot differently than you would

In that sense I know that there were a lot of I knew that there were a lot of things that I needed to improve in

Don't get me wrong I did some shitty things oh yeah

I was never hard to explain but I was never like depressed

Like I was never had anything like that

It was just like yeah I fucked up

I did some shitty and I Learned from it

But I was never really like oh I don't know who I am anymore

Yeah you know no I have I have too

I looked in the mirror and I was like I don't know who this person is

Yeah like I don't recognize this guy

Like this isn't who I grew up with

This is not the guy that I that I that I woke up

As for the last you know 20 years this isn't him

I don't know who this is

And this is weird and I don't like it anymore

It's time for change

Damn I feel like I'm talking to myself

It's kind of crazy

Jesus it's it's but see that's the thing

If you are okay with it and you're comfortable with it then you'll realize okay this is weird and I don't like this and I need change

And that's when you're like okay we're gonna go focus on me for a while

And then you get really good at being you and you don't you don't feel weird when you have those conversations in your head and you're talking to yourself

I think a lot of the problem with my boy Ricardo here about to be harping on you but we've all told you that you need to just give yourself some time and heal but every time you refuse to do it you don't listen to it

I really never refuse to do it

It's more of like I don't think I need to until like shit hits the fan

And even when she has a fan I do decide to change

I do it like not necessarily change but like figure out my shit

And like you know like I said sit still with my emotions is still with the way I think sit still with myself

I do it and I've done it but it feels like there's a constant

There's like a constant little voice in the back of my head that's like do more

Like you need to do more you need to keep grinding you need to keep doing this

I guess this is important but like remember the mission remember why you're doing this right

Like I'm not in business for myself right

I'm not in business because I just want to make a lot of money spending on cars spending on women spending on whatever it is right

I'm doing it because I want to be able to get my future family and my future kids the life that I didn't have right

I wanna you know be able to teach some things that you know I need resources for

I need to be able to give them the love or the freedom of me being there for them at all times

You know what

I don't wanna miss their their fucking band auditions or whatever it is that they wanna be into their soccer games or the football games

I wanna be there for them because they get the chance to experience that

So it's like so it's like like I said I will do whatever is necessary

I will sacrifice whatever it is

I will sacrifice myself if I have to in order for my future kids to be able to experience that

And so it's like whenever I take the moment whenever I take a second or a period of time to work on myself and you know figure out why am I feeling like this why do I feel angry when I'm sad why do I feel sad when I'm angry

Like this secondary emotions it's like okay buddy like this is important but like remember what you're doing this for

Like you can't waste time

There's no wasting time

You need to be you need to keep going

Yeah but it's kind of that takes me back to the Three Little Pigs in this since this is what reminds me of is that trying to build a straw house you have no foundation in a family

You are the foundation and you're trying to skip that portion of making yourself comfortable with who you are and building yourself up with who you wanna be to trying to go ahead and proceed defining the finding the family and finding the marriage and find everything like that

But you'll never get to that point if you don't do the foundation first

It's all very abstract in my mind

Um

It's not it

It can be very um tangible and you can feel it and you can sense it you can taste it when you're in it but before you get to that point it is so abstract

Um for me I never knew what I was looking for

I just knew that I was like I want stable relationship I want kids I want the house I want the things and I want the options to be able to do what I want when I want with whoever I want

Um I was gonna dive into something and I'm forgetting it

Um take this

If you if you were to have a wife the perfect wife just put herself next to you and say okay is Ricardo the exact same thing as perfect life in every aspect

Does Ricardo work just as hard as she does

Is he just as fit as she is

Does he have the patience that she has

Is he as honest as she is

Compare yourself line by line go through all of the things of like okay this is perfect wife is Ricardo every single one of these

If Ricardo is not that's when Ricardo needs to go to work and until you are the the mirror image of who you want in your life

How are you supposed to have that person and how's that person supposed to be happy with you

If if she's doing the same if she wants a perfect husband which is obviously what she's going after

If she is that level of human um how are you supposed to satisfy her if you're not already there yet

And that to me is hard to like stomach sometimes like yeah that's like oh that's a lot to measure up to but if that's not where you're at then it does it's a waste of your time to go and chase that because it's somewhat unachievable

That makes sense

Yeah it does

And and she's not gonna be looking for you and in your most recent relationships it's exactly how we all thought they would go because it's a reflection of who you are

That's why we keep telling you to pause and take time because you're out there

You're not looking for your next wife

Hmm you're going to match someone that where you are at now and who you are who you are now and you're finding that person but that person always turns out to not be who you want but that's that's we all do that you know I've done I've done that because we all do it

I've done that my entire life

Uh in the past eight months have been entirely different

And that is the only thing that I changed

Like okay if I want a perfect wife this is what she looks like

Can I measure myself to this person

Absolutely not

I suck

So we're gonna go back to the workshop and we're gonna Fix Caleb because she's not gonna change

In my mind I'm not willing to settle for less

And you're obviously not either if you're not in the relationship you know that you were in two months ago then obviously something didn't work

And I'm assuming that is because you weren't willing to settle

Um and you wanted her to be better

Yeah I think that's one of the problems

I just you fall off the possibility with the potential with the if she fixes this then it will be great

If she does this would be amazing

Or like even vice versa like if I just do this maybe I'll be exactly what she wants or something like that

And it's stuff

Do you think she was fully satisfied with who you are

Oh no okay well then that's where we start like okay what what was she what what did I like about her

What were the things that I liked

We're gonna put that on perfect wife paper okay

And and what she didn't like about you that you also are like that can improve you know it might be something she she I'm sure she probably wanted you to do something that you were like okay now that doesn't need improve or not

We're not doing any more of that

Yeah uh but I'm sure there is something that you can pinpoint you're like yeah I could be better in this aspect

And then we're gonna put that on your paper and until those two papers look the same it doesn't you you will waste your time going and chasing that person um cause she's not gonna be looking for you

And even if you find her it's wrong place wrong time you know Jesus imagine oh how they'll break my heart

Don't you never know

Yeah you never know you never know

It's interesting

It's interesting cause like for example like going back to Alex and Layla's uh example they both found each other at a weird spot right

Cause Alex kept going broke

He kept failing blah blah blah blah

And then Layla was just like doing her thing

And so it's like you hear stories like that and you see stories like everywhere right

Like find us find each other at rock bottom

We were clearly not the people that we are today

And then we work through it and then but like this and this and that

So it kind of like in my experience it creates a hope which might might or might not be realistic

It is a hope but I think it's a false reality

Like because me and Caitlin are not the same person as we were when we first started dating

Like we grew together but we still had aspects that we knew we wanted

As like you're saying on the sheet of perfect wife and perfect husband we already had starting aspects that we liked

We're both willing to work on each other or on ourselves to get each other to each other's perfect you know sheet of paper

That's why when everyone asks me why to take you so long to get married is because we were still growing we're still building and we I Learned that hey you know like we talked about earliers I can live at a laundry basket not fold clothes but she can't stand it

Like those little things are part of the sheet of paper organization cleanliness things like that

We had to work together to figure out what what she wants as a perfect husband and what I want as a perfect wife

That makes sense

I think my problem I guess here both of you guys is that every example you're you're fine with living out of a laundry basket and she's fine with she's finally just folding and you guys come to the compromise I'm more of like like I don't give a shit like whatever like close it's just close right

But it's more like but it's more like I am willing to let red flags go by

So like she lied about this

I it's okay like just don't lie again guys again it's it's okay just stop lying

She hurts me

Stop hurting me

You know it's okay that you did like I understand you don't mean it

Stop hurting me though

I just keep on letting these things happen these things happening

Don't disrespect me don't do this don't do that

And I'm just guessing it's my choice of person but I try to play it off as in like you know it's okay it's gonna change just like it's weird

I don't even know how I just tried it

Yeah I mean me and Caitlin of me and Caitlin have heard each other and lied to each other and done stuff like that

But the thing is the difference is we were able to work together and figure it out like both parties have to be both parties have to be able to work through the problems like we both that you're gonna have that in every relationship

But again it was part of like she knew that I was fitting the piece of paper that Caleb keeps referencing to being the favorite husband and she kept on the paper of being the perfect wife

These are just blemishes in between that we have to work out

It's like the qualities don't really change it's just learning through the process

Your point of um saying that Layla and Layla and Alex were not who they are today but they found each other at a weird spot

Um just because you find somebody like okay we could use us as an example

Um you know I hope that in 10 years we are in a much better place

You know so just because you find your person and you are not at your peak doesn't mean that that person is not the right one

Have you heard of a Henry High earner not rich yet

Yeah I think so so same thing they're doing everything that they need to be a high earner

There's not there yet because they don't have enough reps in life has not played itself out enough

But they're doing all of the things

And I think that that is that's the only reason that Layla wanted to stay with Alex when he went broke right

Because she knew that he was doing the doing

It was just a matter of time before okay we figure all these things out

Like you're still learning

You're still paying down your ignorance debt but once you do it's gonna be great

It's gonna be fantastic

And that's just the journey

I mean regardless of whether it's the good or the bad they understood then I want to I want to go through this journey with with this person

And this person is who I choose because they are doing the doing

And that's what matters

Um but I think that it can be very difficult to

It can be very difficult to find your person until both parties are doing the doing that makes sense

Yeah there yeah until both they find themselves aligned correct

And I think I think the biggest part of that um one thing that Savannah says that she really appreciates um in me and that she's found herself attracted to in the past is someone who works hard just a hard worker

And whether that mean you are out actually working a lot or whether you are in a really Rocky Point in your relationship and you're willing to work hard it's it it all comes full circle working hard because you generally are willing to work hard at all aspects of life or your relationship

Yeah it's little halves of transfer exactly

But it's those key things that you're like I like this in that person and I also do the same

But if you are trying to measure yourself to somebody that is not like yourself just like you say okay well you hurt me you lied to me don't do those things again

It's like whoa whoa that is something that I'm not doing and I hold myself to a much higher standard and you're not

Like that's the problem is that you are not willing to hold yourself to a higher standard like I understand we made mistakes but like those are like you know you're willing to hurt me like whoa whoa I suppose you're be your person here you know we don't hurt each other

Um those are those are things where you you realize okay I've obviously attracted somebody who is not on my tier

Um you deserve better than that like you do

I don't know anything about you frankly we don't really know each other but I know that you deserve better than that

Um cause I know you hold yourself to a higher standard you know and until until you are willing to accept the fact that you do hold yourself to a higher standard and be okay with living in your skin

It will be hard for you to attract somebody who is also doing the same cause they're not gonna be doing there

You're you're you're looking in the wrong place

Like you're it sounds weird it sounds abstract but once it happens it you it'll all click and you'll be like ah I get it now

I was just you're looking for the weeder in your clothes closet versus the shit

There's the shop bro just brought it all the way around back to line care about it

I think that interesting like being comfortable in your own skin doing this doing that like reflecting and changing the things checking off a list like you keep saying

It's like all revolves around the same thing of like just loving yourself and fixing what it is what it is that you need to do

And you know talk about things like this like a year ago I didn't used to talk about things like this because I was like well this is kind of weird it's kind of uncomfortable

It's not normal

I mean I grew up in a household where I never saw my dad cry right

I always saw my dad at work like work work work

Never ever to this day I've maybe seen him cry like once or twice right

My mom was always there

She was like talk to me talk to me like she's tried her best but I mean like mom I don't know what to tell you

I really don't know what to tell you

And it took me it took me 18 years to ever tell my mom that mom I'm not happy like mom that I'm sad right

Like into my mother like right there like one person in the world that would like die for me for sure 100%

And even then it was so weird cause you know you just not used to it

And one thing yeah I was just gonna say I think that's one thing that Parker and I both can

You might say you've never seen your dad cry but I know for me like I tell my mom all the time I don't like life right now

I'm not happy

You know for you that's just is vastly different you know like give yourself some Grace for that

You know that's not normal for you but realize that it is also not normal to not communicate that you're not happy

You know I do it from uh I I do it from a place of not wanting to inconvenience nobody

And I do it from a place of like I have to be strong because I'm a man and because I have to provide and because I can't seem like I can't do what I'm supposed to do

You know what I mean

If you in weakness comes strength in weakness comes strength cause when you are weak you will then become stronger

Yeah I think it is good to to at least allow yourself uh the Grace to understand that you are weak in that situation

Not necessarily to go talk to a therapist or go rant to mom or dad about it but I think just to give yourself the Grace and say hey I'm not where I need to be in this situation

I can improve here

And then take it back to the drawing board and say alright how do we improve this

You know uh I was I was short with this customer

Well I was sure with the customer because I didn't sleep good last night

Why am I not sleeping good

Okay it was actually the fact that I didn't go to the gym

That's what it was

I missed the gym this morning

Like okay well then we tighten that up

And also another thing if you don't want to inconvenient somebody chances are probably don't have enough or the quality of people around you that you can inconvenience

Like I can promise you if you call me up or you call Parker up and you vent to us we're not gonna be inconvenience by that

No you know yeah like you shouldn't feel like you're gonna inconvenience anybody that you trust

I would never feel like I'm gonna inconvenience inconvenience Savannah by going to her and saying hey babe my day sucked

It sucked

Today was terrible

Let me tell you about it

Yeah and it's been that way with every romantic partner long term or short term

Like I would always carry the burden of like whatever is wrong with them

Yeah I'm here for you

Talk to me absolutely whenever like just call me I'll make some time for you

We'll talk and we'll figure things out right

But when it came to me I would always be like I'm good don't worry about like I'm fine I'll figure it out

It's okay

Do you think you do you think it was your decisions to not talk or was it

Um did they often shut you down

You would open yeah you would open up they would be like oh wow that's whatever

Like they wouldn't give care into it

No I've had partners like that but the majority no it wasn't them shutting me down

So it was really just it was really uh the idea in your mind that whenever I share this it is not going to have any substance or weight the way I feel it

Number one and two I don't want them to see me in a different light or as a weak person when I share this

Yeah yeah yeah more like that

I don't want them to seem like I don't have everything under control which whether I do or whether I don't it's up to question

Right

But um it's it's more like every every romantic part of that I have has told me like you're a great guy I admire you your work ethic this and this and that

Like like that stuff means a lot to me

It means a lot to me cause I again growing up and never had anybody tell me that

Right like I'm proud of you this and this and that and like especially the long term parties that I've had

Well really just one but like always like really proud of you

You're working hard this and this

And so it's like I don't wanna ruin that

I don't want to say something and be like oh I thought you were this and this and that's what I'm thinking

I'm nervous that she said that but what's the difference

So I think you're about to kind of say the same thing is they see you as I already they know

Yeah it's a trait yeah and when you are weak it doesn't change yeah how they see you

It's a drop in the bucket and it's not necessarily a drop in the bucket

How are you a hard worker if everything's easy

They know life's hard

Like if they're willing to compliment you and say you know you're really hard worker what do they think you do go and sit in the truck and scroll TikTok all day

No they don't think that they know you're dealing with hard things

That's why they compliment you as being a hard worker

So it would it would be ludicrous for them to also believe that you're not ever gonna come to them with a hard story and say look I'm going to this really hard thing right now

I need you to support me a little bit

It would be crazy for them to assume that that's never gonna happen

And if that's what they think then they ain't the one you're gonna compliment me as being a hard worker but you're not willing to put up with the hard that I bring home sometimes

Yeah this ain't gonna work

It's very complex cause like that's I can I can relationship is yeah I can I can I can say that I can think that

But then it's like I don't wanna say that I get attached really easily

You do what I do

I just wanna admit it whatever

But um it's like I don't want anything to happen that could potentially jeopardize it from my end

You know I mean and like insane things like I have a hard I have a hard time accepting things that are negative towards me or relationships

So in like so in like saying like in like saying like oh yeah she's not

Like if she thinks that then she's not the one

Or if she thinks this or that or that or says this and then that she's not the one

When I've already invested so much of like my time I love my money all of this energy it's almost like I feel like I failed when it is true

Whenever it's true it just feels like I failed

It feels like I did not try

I could have done better feels like I could have tried harder

It feels like I could have like done more

And that's why I kind of stay in those things for as long as possible

Unless like there's just no other way

Because you were trying to make it work

Uh huh you're trying to make sure that you couldn't blame yourself for it not working out

Yep you're investing into a failing business

That's what you were doing bleeding hell

But the problem is you don't know that it's a failing business until you give it everything he got exactly

And I feel like I have so much to give

Like that's the wisdom yeah of like knowing okay hey this business is failing this relationship is failing this is not working and knowing when to call it quits

Um but I think the go ahead that's the number one thing that I hear from Ricardo when he goes through these kinds of things is I've invested so much time I've invested so much this so much that I'm like yeah but you're investing it poorly

Like now is the time that instead of investing more is now the time to invest into something else

And I think he gets caught up in the idea of like why I've been investing so much time and waste would do and why don't I just give it 10 more the 10% more the 10% more well it's very difficult for um somebody on the sidelines to for you personally somebody on the sidelines to be able to tell you hey this is not worth it

You're like yeah but you don't you don't know all the things yeah you know you have no idea what all this you know um you don't know the weight of the situation you don't know what I'm dealing with right now

Like it's very it it it again is is abstract to some extent even if you explain to Parker you explain to somebody else hey this is what I'm going through

You think it's worth it to continue and they're like bro hang it up ain't worth it

You're like but okay okay but let me give let me give you but you gotta do this part you gotta do this part of it you gotta look you gotta agree with me in this

I've never done that to you

I've always made you do your own consideration

I said look I understand that I don't get to see the good relationship you only call me when it's bad

So you have like I'll walk them through and I'll be like look is it you're happy five days a week at a seven or are you happy two days a week at a seven

Okay but okay do you feel yourself chasing the happiness in a relationship

You're like okay am I happy or am I unhappy

Is that kind of like your the lever of whether to stay in it or to invest more time or to get out of it

It's like is it happiness or is it like for me

I got this from Alex and Mosey

I'll be Frank but it's a good one

Do my stats increase again

This is uh I don't know if you journal

I try and keep a journal as as as much as I can

Um just kind of give like a summary of my day

What was good what was bad

Uh and kind of very briefly plan out the next day

And a lot of times I'll talk about my stat

It's like okay what what's excelling right now

And I find that in my current relationship all my stats are up every one of them and that is my uh determiner for whether the relationship is worth it

It's not a matter of did I feel happy about it today cause I can promise you bro there will be days you are not happy about it

Yeah bro this sucks

You're mad at me

I'm mad at you

This is not fun but are my stats up

I still went and did

I still went to the gym

I still busted my butt today

I you know communicated well with all of my clients

I did all of the things

I did the doing

And that shows me that deep down inside I feel like it is still worth my investment to do life with this person cause I chose this person and she's doing the same

It's not that when she was down and depressed she stayed in bed all day

No she got up and she did the doing as well

And when your stats are up together especially when they're up together you're like okay this is making sense

It's not a matter of am I happy today or am I not happy which I don't think that was

Your entire thought process is just to chase the happiness because you obviously know that not everybody's happy is gonna be happy

It's not like I asked them like are you happy seven days a week or zero

Like right I know there's going to be unhappy days

Yeah it's just more or less of like do you value in a relationship being happier than you are being upset

Like if you guys are fighting six days a week and you're only happy for one and but you're like all those good when I this is the number one thing I always hear is like when we're good we're really good

Yeah but when we're bad we're really bad

I'm like oh is it more really really good

Or is it more really really bad

Yeah yeah and I think um

I the bad times are what tells me if it's worth it or not

Yeah it's not the good times like when it's obviously when you're vibing with your person

Yeah bro it's great

Of course it doesn't matter really who it is

Yeah like you can find a lot of people to be really happy with

Yeah yeah so big ocean there's a lot of people that can make you really happy

I think I can agree with you on that is like the bad the bad shows if it's worth it or not

Because I'm like like number one thing I told you when me and Caitlin first start dating our first big blowout fight she called me every name in the book asshole douchebag all that stuff

And I said the next day I said look when we fight we do not call each other names

It doesn't help to this day

I don't remember what we thought about but I remember what she called me

From then on out we don't do that

We fight and we argue and we talk about the issue versus trying to hurt each other

So if you have someone that just constantly tries to hurt you and every single fight come on what are we doing

Yeah what are we here for

And I think another thing to look at during those times is our stats still up

It's like did we did we are we still doing everything that we know as humans to do better each day each and every day

And if the if the answer is no then there's a major problem and it might not be that

It's not the person but the the relationship needs work

Yes you know like that's that's when you know okay this needs attention and that goes with with any aspect of life

When it's that's down you give it attention you know just like in a business you know if you're if you're not hitting the goal like where where we at with this what do we need to do to improve it

Um and same goes for a relationship

Uh yeah damn there feels like I'm in a therapy session

I think we should close my guess or the relationship aspect out of it

Let's well we can pay it right over into into business

Yeah it's all the same I mean I don't mind it cause I love this stuff right

It's kind of like what I'm like when I'm like dipping

Well I've been dipping into this for a while now

It's just it's good to have a refreshment and kind of like good to see that it's not it's not bad to experience things like this right

It's normal it's good bro

It's good cause it helps you know what you needed improve on next time and what are you gonna be single the rest of your life

Okay then this is one last relationship you gotta get through to get to the right one

Yeah this is great dude you make a progress you're well on your way to the right one you know yeah and you just you gotta you gotta figure out okay what did we go wrong with this one like where we go wrong

What did what did I do bad

What did she do that I didn't

Like just keep it in the back of your head yeah or write it down get it on paper get it out how has journaling helped you

Wait say it again how has journaling helped you

Say you do well scientifically if you write things down more like it

Same in business if you're trying to sell a client you got more points of contact right

You see the trucks you see the uniforms you see the advertisements you see the direct mail you see the door hangers the more times you hit a client or a potential client the more likely they are to purchase

The more times you uh see something the more uh the more crystallized and more tangible it is

Just like if you have a goal like look at it every morning write it down see it um writing things helps really

It it drives it into your into your brain into your psyche and it you become that

Um and so like for me if I'm if I'm journaling about um something that I really need to improve on if I don't journal about it if I just think about it as I'm going off to sleep bro listen I I got way too many things

Yeah it's gone dude

It's off with the other 55 things that I forgot about yesterday that I was supposed to get done

You know it's gone but if I write it down and I'm like hey I I'm realizing that my emotion my emotional state cannot carry over on to somebody else

I realize that that is my duty as a male to make sure that my emotional state is my job it's my it's my duty to deal with that

I cannot let my negative you know conversation that I had with somebody yesterday affect my girl when I go home

It's not her problem to deal with

That's my that's that's on me now

If I wanna discuss it with her I can but I can't let the negative emotion caused me to have a bad night with her

Um and that's on my journal about I'll write it down and then it's like okay I remember that I remember that the next day I kind of see that like just to bring something funny into this like caveman experience for you is like do not bring home bad conversation wife get mad wife throw pan at me

I don't like

She is like absolutely bro

He's just like my head hurts

Yeah scratch it on the wall

Yeah yeah I'll go in depth with it like I'll fill out a few pages if it if it if it makes sense to if it's something I'm really trying to like I don't know about y'all but I've had like I've I have a somewhat I feel like I don't know I don't know about anybody else but I feel like for myself I have an addicted personality so I used to smoke weed all the time used to vape all the time

And those were two things that I was like bro I cannot stop this you know like it's terrible bro

Uh and it's only thing I I think about like when I'm at work and I'm not smoking weed all I wanna do is get home and smoke weed you know that's all that's that's all I would ever think about

But dude the only thing that helped me prevent that was changing my environment moving getting myself out of the space and then journaling

If I write that on a piece of paper and I say I am done this is the last time that's it period

And then I see that when I open my journal up the next night it both is happening

I'm sorry but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fail myself

I didn't raise a quitter

I'm doing I'm doing that you know it has to happen and so it's just my way of um I can't tell if I have addictive personality or not

You do you do do I

I don't have to say nothing yes you do

But um even if you don't don't try don't find out

Don't do drugs cause I've never that's good never done weed never done anything like that just cause yeah I didn't see the value in it

You drink you ever drink I drink but I drink very rarely

Okay yeah but what is the one thing that you can't leave

You just see literally told me yourself Kayla I can stop it

You can't either you can't stop it

I don't believe you Zen

Yes it's pretty nice bro

Oh my god you should try

Yeah it's it's yeah no again though I the only reason you know why I wanted to stop smoking weed cause I was lazy all the time

It negatively impacted my life

If it didn't and it was fantastic

I would still be smoking weed everyday

I'd be high right now

There's not an issue with it if you don't feel like it negatively impacts your life

Do you think it negatively impacts your life

No there you go

The reason why I don't quit cause like if I run out of them I'm not stopping work to go to the store and get another one

Like addictive personality would be like oh I'm on my last cigarette

I gotta go right now to go get another pack of cigarettes

Like for example my mother she smokes cigarettes and I do not let her smoke in any of my vehicles

And she cries and complains about it to me cause I don't let her smoke in my vehicles

She's like I rolled the windows down

I'm like I don't care

It still smells like cigarette smoke for days after

And it like that is an addictive the trait

Like if someone's like I don't want you to sit in my house and be like all right cool yeah no problem

Okay I guess that's fair

Yeah if if and it's all personal

Like if you feel like it negatively impact your life that's when it's time to change

Yeah and if it negatively impacts somebody else's life then you got to make the decision

Is it worth me changing or is it worth me cutting that person off

This is like work some people hate the amount that all three of us work

Some people can't stand it die some nuts

They're like what do you mean

You can't come out tonight you have to work

You work every day dude

Yeah you can work tomorrow too

You can plus you you own the company yeah you own the company bro just actually exactly but if it's if that negatively impacts that person you like that then either stop working not really an option or tell him to suck it up

That's what I did so cut them off

Yeah you can always do that

Sometimes you gotta do that too

Been there done that

Yeah I don't know

I don't I don't think I would say that I have addicted personality to anything particular

Like I don't drink I don't smoke I don't do anything really

Yours is an emotional my I do have emotional attachments right

Like do you think it needs to change

I don't want it to

Why not

Cause I don't wasn't really a question

No cause like what I'm talking about is like whenever I invest myself into something or anybody and I choose to like go at it 100%

Like it's so hard for me to stop

Yeah but I don't think that's necessarily an issue with you have emotional attachments

Like that's you just in love with a person that's all

It is on the same way

I'm heavily invested in my relationship so as Parker that's not a problem for us

We just we just found somebody that we wanted to spend life with

You haven't found a person yet and that's okay bro that's okay

It has to be okay to step away like you you personally like weak me and me and him cannot tell you what that line is but you need to draw a line in the sand and be like if it gets to this point I need a break and that's not to say like I can never go back to that person and try again

It's you cross the line we need this to stop

Yeah I didn't have any chance cause me and Kaitlyn went through a two month breakup cause I put my foot in the sand

I said this is the line you do not cross

Yeah she crossed it and we broke up

She improved it

I saw that realized that I wanted her back and we got back together and we're happily married

How do you feel like you're super honest with yourself in all aspects as in like what what do you mean

Um like for me if I I'm brutally honest with myself I like to think the same thing but I find myself not always um and that is something that I need to improve on

But for example like uh if I have a solo operator right now for the most part it's very rare that I'll have an employee come and help me

Um if I find myself at yard No

12 and I have 15 on the schedule and I'm like dude I just wanna go home but I still have two hours of daylight

Like uh you know I can't be honest with myself and say that I completed my list if I go home

Uh okay there's another aspect of that is like okay well I'm in this relationship that really sucks and this person doing a lot of things that I said that I was gonna not let happen but I'm still in it

Are you gonna be honest enough with yourself to stick to you and and appreciate who you are as a person

Respect yourself and the boundary that you set for yourself

You didn't tell anybody else

You didn't tell her that that was the boundary

Obviously she's not gonna step over it

She wants to be with you but that's the line that you said

Are you gonna be honest enough with yourself to say we're not going there

This is this is a line in the sand that Parker's describing

Do you feel like you have the capacity to put your foot down when that line is crossed

Are you honest enough with yourself in that situation

Well if I'm honest with myself right now now okay then until you have enough that I don't feel like that is necessarily a lack of honesty

I think that is a lack of respect for who you are

I think personally as a third person looking in um cause we talk quite a bit is um I don't think that you are respecting yourself in a sense to know when you're lying to yourself

So you are willing to lower your standards to keep trying to build

I think part of your problem is you're trying to build the other person to who you want to be as your wife but that person has to be willing to grow

And a lot of times I think that you will lower your standards to give that time for that person to try to grow and then they end up not doing it

And you just keep lowering and lowering and lowering until you hit the rock bottom

Possibly yes I think at all times you call me but stuff of people doing stuff that you absolutely would not go for would not stand up for and you let it slide

I find out two three weeks later that you guys are perfectly happy and okay and then you call me another two weeks later and she did the exact same thing

You just kept eating

I think regardless of that or regardless of whether you're being honest with yourself it's like okay is this

It's so it's hard it's so hard to like put words to when you haven't ever been

If you don't feel like you've ever been in a relationship that is like fully worth your time

Obviously cause you haven't had anything that's super super stable

And bro Parker could break up tomorrow

I could break up tomorrow

Like you know who knows

But I do know that what I feel is what I feel like is what I wanna spend the rest of my life doing

Um and you just you have to you have to ask yourself and this is why I ask about honesty is if you can't ask yourself in the morning or at night and say is this person having a positive impact on my life

Is there are we still going in the direction that I intended for us to go in when I got in a relationship with this person

And if the answer is no you have to be honest with yourself enough to be like okay I can't do this anymore

But you'll get to a point you'll go through enough relationships where you're like I'm losing time bro

I'm not trying to have kids when I'm 40 like yeah this is crunch time now

I can't I don't have enough time to waste another two months with you giving you a shot and sometimes you just have to get to that point that's the way it was for me

I'm 26 like yeah I wanted to be in the relationship that I'm in right now

When I was twenty the wrong place wrong time I didn't know everything that I know now

And that's why I say this is great bro you learning

It's one lesson you got to go through and it might be the right person just wrong time

But you don't know that until it is the right time

And that's why I say focus on you cause if you had to if you had to you like I seems like you like lists you like to write things out

So if you had to give someone a list of maybe bullet points traits habits of things that they would have to look into themselves and fix in order to become the perfect husband or a reflection of the perfect part of that they want what would those be

Um I would say the first one would be working hard

Like how hard you work

Like are you a are you genuinely a hard worker or are you a lazy person

And like most of the time you can tell bro

But it all comes down to honesty

Because when you're in a relationship and it's all you know lovey dovey you just seeing each other for the first time and you're figuring everything out and you're going through that love phase that honeymoon phase

It is very hard to be honest with yourself

But if you can honestly say hey and that's why I say look at it from a stats perspective because when you when you're going through that first phase of love is gonna the the stats are super blurry

Hmm and people are just making stuff up

Yeah like I'm just make I'm making all kinds of stuff up cause I like this person

You know and and you you've been through that

Hmm I've been through that

You've probably been through that

Um and when you look at the stats is the person super hard working feel like you would want that you know feel like you would want somebody that's gonna wake up every day every single day and and give it their best shot

Uh honesty you gotta be honest bro

And I want you honest with yourself cause if you can be honest with yourself you'll be honest with me

But if you can't be honest with yourself and say hey I got a problem here

I got a real problem and I'm willing to be vulnerable enough to present that to you

I know that person is gonna be honest

Um and then I would say probably the third thing is being able to sacrifice himself willingly without me having any input

I don't know when I'm having a bad day I know when you're having a bad day

If I'm willing to go out of my way and sacrifice myself for you and you're willing to do the same that says something

It says a lot

Those three things are kind of like sometimes you can get lost in the weeds of like oh dude with this person like they park sideways in their parking space and I hated that or this person you didn't fold your laundry and I just want to live out of the laundry basket

And you know but if you're hardworking and you're really honest with yourself and got the other one hard working honest with yourself Jeez thank you

You only said two

Yeah you only said two

I said three said three I said three

Hard working honest with yourself and willing to sacrifice yourself sacrifice that's my definition of love

If you're like if you can do those three things I feel like you got a pretty solid woman you know for these pretty solid guy regardless of whether you're gay or whether you're oh man or woman yeah yeah man or woman

Yeah yeah yeah no problem with the gays here not trying to get anybody canceled

You can clip that

I think that's I think that's the main point you know cause we'll always we'll always find things that we're like not happy with

Yeah like Savannah pisses me off I piss her off all the time she pisses me off all times I piss her off all the time

Yeah bro I I'll get the zoomies and she hates it he hates it

Bro it's like your energy is way too high 7:30 in the morning

Calm down but there's you gotta pick your battles and there's gonna be a lot of things that you're gonna fight about in a relationship

But if you can have those three and there's gonna be others on your list that you'll find is like a I really want this whatever that thing is I really want that in a relationship

I really want that in my partner

And some things you'll take from other relationships you'll date someone and be like I absolutely hated this but I absolutely loved this

So if my wife could do the things that I absolutely love and not the things I absolutely hated that be perfect

But you may not have known that you loved that about somebody yeah and you won't

You'll find that as you go through relationships um that oh I actually really appreciate this you know like I love that this person does that that is awesome

I love

Kayla makes me dinner and I like to cook but when I come home and dinner is made I'm like if I married you yeah golly I love this person for sure

Yeah and you and you yeah you'll have those moments in your life

Man this is this is it this is it bro I can I can deal with the fact that you throw clothes all over the bedroom boat like you know house is a wreck

I love this though yeah you know and then and then that's when that's when all of the the hardship is just you know whatever well we'll work it out

What are you gonna do but those three things solid bro we're great um but you gotta you have to make sure that you also are doing the things that are on the list

If you're not that person is somewhere else

Bro they're out there looking for the version of you that is doing those things cause they're doing them

You know if you're going to the gym all the time I have a hard time believing that you're gonna be looking for the girl that's sitting on the couch eating donuts twice a day

It's not gonna happen you know they want you they're like I want that guy to spit

They're just sitting there stuff in their face

Yeah you know it ain't gonna work out it's not so you gotta measure yourself to whatever your measuring stick is you know interesting

It's my take I agree with it I agree with it

Gosh man got a lot of work to do that Learned a lot huh that's crazy

How old are you

21 damn bro you just getting started

I wanted to be in a relationship that I'm in when I was your age as being an idiot when I was your age

You're doing all right yeah and that's why I say this is great because it it's opening to your eyes to to to what you don't like and what you do like and you just gotta you you gotta be honest with yourself and and and not let your standard fall

If you're gonna do that bro you're you chilling bro you're fine dog

Yeah give yourself some credit

You should don't ever give up

Oh yeah no given up not an option but yeah so you're good you're solid bro

All right I'm gonna change this up a little bit

Yeah what's up

We can connect it we can connect it

What do you think about if I go earlier

We were talking about um as in like more professional issues when it comes to your employees maybe management team this and this and that and how business is a reflection of yourself right so often see there's lots of examples right there's lots of examples of great people building great companies right

Um do you have to do you think that

Hmm there's skills that bleed over to other topics right like for example when you have a lot of discipline when you work hard right when you work hard in the gym you're most likely gonna work hard at whatever it is that you're doing right

So do you think that if you like on the topic of relationships if you have a great relationship with a spouse romantic partner whatever it is that you have do you think that transfers over to employees

Like you have a you'll be a great leader a great employer a great boss a relationship with your employees you think that necessarily connects

Yeah I think it's uh it's very similar to asking if a a a really fantastic person is gonna be a fantastic person in this situation or that situation

Like now they're just a great person like they're a great human being

Uh and I think that carries over to all aspects of their life

And if you find an aspect of their life they're like oh this person sucks in this situation okay well they're a good person you know you're not a great person cause you obviously really screwed up that situation and you didn't learn from it you've been doing it for 20 years you know that's uh that yeah I think I think obviously if you're gonna have a fantastic relationship chances are you can be really good at your job

Hmm um again that's why I say hard working

If you're willing to work really hard at your job chances are you're not gonna just as soon as you have a first hard argument hang it up

Um you're hard working it's a it's a trait it's a staple it's who you are

Uh and that those things absolutely it it it's it's life it's a circle of life so if you're if you're good at work you're good at home you know um you're good with the kids you're good in public you're good with the employees you're a good manager

It carries over every aspect of life

If you're a good person you're a good person

Um but what I was gonna say is that if you if you find areas of your life that you suck at just give it more attention

If you find that you're like okay well I can't seem to figure out this uh this relationship between my employees and also being friends after work

So like okay well then maybe read some books about it maybe listen to some podcast and figure out how I can be a better person for my employees um on the job and at home interesting

Yes we just cost an improvement constant work

Yeah what is hard of being a hard worker

Exactly exactly I find I think everyone that has a company starts company has the trait of a hard worker that is successful

Yes yes the entrepreneur that is successful is simply a hard worker

Yeah yeah because otherwise they would have stayed where they were

If you're not a super hard worker then you're not willing to work hard right you would have just stayed where you at

There's a ton of people that started right exactly stable

It's easy it's stable might not be easy but it's stable it's easier it's risk averse it's risk adverse

Yes it's there's less things that you gotta worry about

There's more it's more predictable as well

Oh yeah paycheck coming in every single week

I love that miss great yeah I miss it sometimes

Yeah but then it's like you don't have there's no thrill there's no like it's very monotonous like you can you constantly know like what you're gonna do

I'm gonna step into here

I'm gonna do this for eight hours same thing whatever i'mma go home and then I'll do the same routine as opposed to like alright six in the morning what the fuck is gonna happen today

I love this gonna go wrong

I think the number one thing that I love about business and like my wife absolutely can't stand is I'll go from like have enough in the account

I'm broke and then it'll go to the like 20 30 grand in the account

I'm like this is why I do this

Like I'm like I love this

And then when I'm broke I'm like why don't I go get a job

Like oh I love this

It's just a constant like yeah it's yeah it's the vanity of like what a business owner is

And you see now again examples of the real world like CEOs having like insane billion dollar multi million dollar packages

And it's like that's great for them now

But like what about like the first 10 years or like the first 15 years when they didn't see a penny

It was like that um yeah that level of risk and that level of like holy shit it finally works

It's so much better and it feels so much better than just like okay here's my 2,000 dollar to every single 2 weeks paycheck that there's nothing else I can do about it right

Elon Musk was gonna go was gonna have to decide between Spacex or Tesla

And he said fuck that I'm gonna do both

They figured it out uh huh exactly like hat like that and itself is that's fun

Yeah it's wild um and it is super risky but I think that is why there are very few successful entrepreneurs is because everybody likes the way that looks on paper but nobody actually enjoys the doing of the doing yeah doing the work the doing of the hard things

And that's when it when it gets really really hard

That's when you know alright this is where everybody quits

Uh huh this is how to be successful

This is my sign of like I this is this is where everybody falls off and this is where I am willing to be better than everybody else cause I'm willing to push through it

Yeah that's when you make money

Yeah hard things are hard for a reason exactly yeah I do I've done that every year

Haha man I could quit right now

I was gonna ask you Parker is your do you you talked about having the the bank account massive fluctuation in the bank account

Do you regardless of whether is structure this way um or not do you pay yourself um or do you just draw out of the business account

Uh right now I just draw out of this discount what I need so I don't really I would highly recommend it will help your mental health it won't change anything

The money is still the the same money but I would highly recommend having an account that you transfer into every week or every month

Um that is your paycheck

It'll help you be able to budget your personal monthly expenses if that's something that you ever struggle with

But what it really helps me with is understanding that the business account is simply that it's a business account business account and regardless of whether it's higher whether it's low my my um my life doesn't change

Yeah I mean none of that is going a little more technical it also protects you right

Like it does you're not piercing the corporate veil in terms of like legal taxes all that stuff

You know typically like I do have a personal account and what I'll do is I'll transfer what I'll need out of the first business account to the personal account for whatever payment or whatever have going on

Yeah like I don't just swipe the business account all the time

No I figured that

But if you can have an account that is separate I just use Cash App

That's what I enjoy using

I just have um and I'm bad about it too

I'll just transfer you know whatever I need into the Cash App account

Then that's what I'll spend

But this next year I will be I will have a set amount that I transfer in the Cash App account every single month

It'll cover my bills it'll give me a little bit of spending money you know we can go out on a date night you know however often we choose

Um but outside of that business account is strictly business account and regardless of whether it goes up or goes down like yeah I'm gonna take responsibility for it

But at the end of the day it doesn't affect the way I live

Um and that is like a major stress reliever for not only you but also your spouse um or whoever you're in a relationship with

If if that's where you're at in life uh cause that can also be very stressful to them

Uh because the highs and the lows they fluctuate with it too

You know they're like oh we're doing Bandai we got 50 grand in the bank account we're rich we do whatever we want

I'm not making dinner tonight you know like no no no go back to the kitchen

I can't spend any money right now

We're gonna need that in the wintertime

It's hard for them to understand that but if you just get the same amount of money all the time regardless of whether it's winter or summer doesn't matter to them

Yeah it's not about high high lows

I wanted to do that but there's been times where like I'm not able to take a paycheck

Oh yeah Parker let's take some responsibly here

You also do vacations like every every other every other month

No I don't

Yes you do yes yes you do yes you do yes you do yes you do we had a conversation about this

I went on a family vacation and then I got married and I had a bachelor party and then a honeymoon

Other than that I didn't take any vacation

That's only four months four months out of 12

It's like what is that

A quarter and they're all it's a third

It was a three day trip and the other one was a week

Okay I'm just saying to be fair though if you only pay yourself a certain amount all the time then you have enough money or you wouldn't

That's when I like gets really sticky is like okay am I strong enough to not take more money out of the out of business because I want the vacation right now

Yeah or do I raise my I think I just thought of this randomly but if you don't have enough money to go on the vacation and you're not willing to raise your salary more because you know it'll hurt you during the winter time you probably shouldn't take a vacation

Something to I just I just I make goals like if I hit this maybe I'm going on a vacation

So for example was like Q4 doing Christmas lights

I was like we hit 50 k because besides I don't care what anybody tells me to a vacation yeah anywhere but here

And we like crushed it

Would we did 65

So I was like all right okay I'll take like some money and I'll just go

Yeah and the likelihood that you would have blown that goal right out of the water if you hadn't have given yourself the permission to do so go on the to a vacation yeah you might not be going on a vacation you know yeah regardless of whether you had to go or not

So I think it's fantastic

Uh huh I think giving yourself a little cookie for the for the for the good work done great

Whatever it whatever it takes to you know push you over the edge and motivate you and do the thing

I've been sent to bias Colton

Yeah really which is that which is good we do 200,000 just me and him next season

I'll do a vacation

Hmm oh yeah bro that's fantastic

Yeah I mean yeah this yeah once you inside advice and you do it responsibly and then you set realistic goals

I think that's definitely a way to like bring not just yourself to do it but also someone that doesn't necessarily have a hard working spirit

You incentivize them correctly and do things like that

I think you can bring out regardless of who they are a hard work working person

He's a hard work working anyways

Yeah yeah that works out

How has this year treated you

I know you said that you took it easy took it nice whatever you took your time with it but how has it treated you

Yeah I mean overall it's been great

There's obviously been uh hard times but I think uh I think everybody has a hard life regardless of where you're at whether you're doing something big

This year um you had a big problem and you were like yeah doing that next year yeah the biggest thing that I Learned was uh when it's easy go really hard

I've always told myself that but I never really had any context to it because I hadn't ever experienced it the way that I experienced it the beginning of this year

Um I should have done way more door hangers

Door hangers were like working super well

I think there was one week that I picked up like 12 clients which is insane because I only have like 41 right now

So it's literally like fourth fourth and that I picked up in one week it's insane

And I should have just pounded them like crazy daunted us every single day maybe even hired somebody if I could afford afforded it because then that would have filled the schedule up

And I could have either had somebody to help me for the entire year uh and assist me on also the big projects that I like really needed somebody on but wasn't willing to hire somebody

Cause I was like ah well this payout is gonna be pretty great if I don't have to pay out any labor

Um that was the big thing and that's what I'm fixing this next season

I'll probably end up hiring somebody four door hangers and then carry them over into mowing season

So yeah I think I think that's there's a concept for I don't know if you've heard it but it's called unteachable lessons lessons

That doesn't matter who tells you what it is bro like donate this girl like don't spend your money on this ball by Ariel

Tell you up and downs you know left to right right but it doesn't matter

You won't listen to them unless it happens to you

Yeah example for door hangers like it's like a revolving thing especially to go

So like they work and if they work you do them twice three times you doing like in your sleep whatever it is you need to do

Yeah like even for me like like um last year they worked a little bit so I didn't really have much anything to compare to this year

It worked a lot and I I did I did the right I did the right thing and I hired and had them doing have people doing it all um all season long but I didn't go as hard as I probably could have even with the people there

Yeah so it's like it's like fuck like I have my coach say this I had multiple people tell me to do this

I still didn't do it but unteachable lessons you know now now you know and yeah and you're if you learn then you'll do different next time

Yeah exactly it changes your behavior than you truly Learned and that is something that I truly Learned

I was like oh this is what everyone was talking about exactly so hard I do head first into mulch and then like 20$27,000 a mulch and didn't do any advertising for lawn care

And a mulch went out the door in April and I was like Gee now what I've got$7,000 of revenue

Yeah so and I worked most of the year solo myself as well

Yeah and it's hard because you don't you won't realize it until it's too late to actually do something about it

Cause when when by the time spring rush is over with door hangers don't really work that great

No yeah this year when I did door hangers I got like an 8 return

Yeah it's crazy like unheard of

I know it's like covers the door hanger it literally covers the door hanger

Yeah so okay so you managed your your dad's location and yes for two years for two years two and a half I think it was yeah two and a half

How how

Man I think my philosophy is that every single business no matter what industry service product what it whatever it is that you do every single company eventually turns into a people management company

Right how has your experience of management people been like

I couldn't agree more with that

I think um I think regardless of what business you're in you are in the people business

Um yeah and that was something I mean I was young um younger than I am now still young but it's uh it's hard to beat yourself up when you look back on and you're like I would dude I didn't know any better

Yeah um I wish I would have but I didn't

And so there's a lot of things that I wish I could have changed done differently

But I will say that I wouldn't change anything about it because it taught me what I now know

Um and I think one of the few things

That are significant is never never become close friends with anybody that you manage to the point that they don't understand that you have authority over them

That's one thing that I still struggle with

I get way too friendly with guys that I work with and then they're like oh yeah this guy's great I can do whatever

And then you're like okay but you can't cuss in front of a customer like let's not do that

You know like that's a no yeah you should have known that I'm disappointed in you but now I can't say anything about it because I'm your buddy not your boss

Um that's a hard line to cross and it's a really hard one to backpedal because it generally just goes to firing them cause they never Learned cause yeah or they quit

Um yeah never be too friendly with people that I guess you can be friendly

You just have to make sure that they always understand like I am your mode and friend mode exactly

Yeah after hours of operations like whatever

If you wanna go out or whatever like that's your well we'll deal with it then right right now exactly you can't be doing what you're doing right exactly hundred percent

And then the second thing um the big take away is handling um handling problems when you know about them

Like do not procrastinate

If you know there is an issue in any aspect of the business even if it is something that you're not supposed to be dealing with

If you know it exists tell the person who is supposed to be dealing with it um and make sure that it gets taken care of

Like if you know about it and it's not your responsibility make sure that the person knows and it gets taken care of

Um that is like that is one of the biggest things that I would stress to a potential manager or somebody who is in management is go above and beyond to problem solve

If you know there is a problem solve it and if that is out of your you know your your your pay plan do it anyways

That's the that is that's what a good manager does

Make sure it gets done even if it's not their job

Um

And there were so many things that I let just kind of carry on with employees that I knew needed dealing with

It's like okay this person is smoking in the trucks when I know they're not supposed to be

And then I would just let it kind of go on and on and on and on

And then I would get yelled at and then I would blow up in front of the team

It's like well dude I know that you've known about the fact that I've been smoking in the trucks and you had never dealt with it

So is it like is it really my fault or is it your fault as a manager for not dealing with it when you know about it

Um trying to think of what else

Those are the main two

Um I see I was a young manager bro

I was a really young manager

And so there were a lot of guys I think I was probably there might have been two guys that I employed that were younger than me which were really young to be in lawn care

Colton would have been younger than me

Um but other than that dude I was like the youngest guy on the team

And to be managing guys that were in their 40s or 50s at times was strange and really hard to have authority over somebody like that especially when they know that your dad is uh the owner of the company

Uh cause it feels very like you know it was given to you whatever

So that's hard to deal with

But I my best advice for anybody that is in management that is young is well actually the biggest issue was the fact that my dad was also my boss

And every all the employees knew that

So

I always addressed my dad as Mr

Jason and he would address me as Caleb or manager Caleb when we were working together

Because if it was ever father son then everybody was like oh this kid you know it is yeah Jason son

And then they would address me that way

It's like I talk to your dad it's like no no no you talk to Jason you didn't talk to my dad

Oh it was after hours yeah you did you talk to my dad you know but if if we're on the clock you talk to Jason yeah if you are on the clock you talk to Caleb you didn't talk to Jason's son

Uh so like having having um having structure in that manner is crucial cause otherwise you just yeah think that's why I mean you kind of connect very well

Oh yeah my dad has a business absolutely bro and trying to get exam is like impossible

Yeah it makes sense

I think that that's why I never took over his business

Sounds like there's no way that I would never be able to

I wouldn't be respected by new employees like the originals that I basically grew up with and worked next to since I was very little

They respect me because they know I can work now

If I hire someone that like oh that's your dad and you're the son

He worked hard gave it to you now you just manage it

You got a cushy life but they didn't see me doing flooring since I was 5 years old

I think the only way you can get out of that is to lead by example

Yeah when you get past that point when you're out in the field there's no leading really by example

Yeah you can still leave example

Yeah I think um I think it's as like for us we um will see clips of like Mike when you know that he doesn't have to be pushed him on lawns you know and he grabs push over even if you wanna say oh he's just doing that because they were filming that day and they needed somebody to push my lawn

Regardless he doesn't have to yeah he made the decision to go and do that and it helped somebody out

And one of the employees was like bro why so Mike and he's cut the lawn today

They pushed my lawn mower you know and they're teasing about it

That makes a massive impact impact on that employee

And I think that's cool and that's awesome

And that is a way of leading by example that anybody can do as a manager

And there's like there's a million different ways to you know um be respected but it is very challenging when you are in a family business and you have authority over employees that understand that aspect of it

Yeah I think so too

It's it's something to work through

I guess it's just like trial and error what worries and what doesn't

Everybody has a hard life everybody has a hard work life you know you just pick your level of hard and roll with it

There's always learning everybody can improve

The number one thing is that your worst day might not be someone's worst day it might be their best day absolutely you know yeah so you can bring them down yeah but you both have to respect each other's worst day like a billionaire's worst day might be that he dropped his Rolex you know and I really like bro I wish I had a Rolex but you just can't act like that

Yeah yeah don't you have a core right now

Yeah yeah Empathy's huge

Yeah go out wrap it up because I know you have to go

Um I do yeah appreciate you having me there bro

Yeah I was I was checking I was checking inside cause I make that for appreciate appreciate

Yeah of course yeah absolutely it's y'all y'all are in the hometowns I had to pull up yeah yeah yeah I'm over here bro

Yeah you are yeah I think I think it's always great to make connection regardless of what the background is

We all work in the same industry and so it's it's it's easy sometimes to forget that you like have people that you work alongside even though you don't see him all the time

Yeah uh that is one thing that is interesting about having multiple different locations now and there's different managers that work very independently

Like myself I work in Farragut so there's days that you are at the shop before everybody else you don't see anybody you work all day alone and then you come back when it's dark and you don't see anybody

It's like you feel very distant abstract and these types of things is what keeps it all together and reminds us our purpose and yeah why we do it

So it's great and makes it all worth it yeah absolutely

How um what is your goal with the podcast

You just gonna pump out as many as you possibly can or so it's called The Journey yeah just very it's I love it because in every single conversation everyone's like the journey the journey the journey journey

It's like that's the point that is literally the point yep documenting everything

I remember quick backstory whenever I whenever I was thinking about starting a business I transferred my I transferred a brand so whenever I was thinking about it I would always look online

Okay how to start a business

What it is that I need to do

How is it

And there will be like some people like it starting from beginning like doing from zero to$10,000 whatever

And it was always like okay like these are things that you could do by yourself like I don't know dropship or whatever you wanna call like Amazon or like um reselling whatever it is you wanna say these are things that you do independently that you can scale independently like coaching and stuff you can skill independently right but those are I don't want to respect anybody they're flashy things

Yeah they bring a lot of attention of course and usually they don't last long

There's people that been doing it for years

Great exceptions are amazing but the common thing is that you know they go out in like two three years are they're done

I would look at companies

I would look at the things that have been around for decades you know pumping out gazillions of dollars

Right

I always wanted to make a lot of money really fast because I wanted to retire early

Yeah now I don't I don't think about retirement but um you're documenting the journey

Yeah exactly

So I was like okay I want to be that person for that kid that wants to start something doesn't really know what it feels like doesn't really know what he's in for

Yeah so I wanna be like listen there's a lot of great things

You can make a lot of money but you're also gonna experience these things

You're gonna experience doubt you're gonna experience betrayal you're gonna experience like the one to quit

You're also gonna experience excitement

You're also gonna be like I can't wait to see what happens today

You're also gonna experience you know good people bad people horrible things right

There's good bad and ugly in everything that you do and especially when you choose to take a path in life that is out of the ordinary but also seems ordinary

The fact that everybody wants to do it not all people actually get to do it

Yeah Mike listen like it's amazing everybody wants to be entrepreneur everyone wants to work for themselves but there's a huge difference between the people that want to do it versus the people that do it and versus the people that do it and actually succeed

Yeah right so there's levels to this

Yeah so I'm like okay I'm gonna take I'm gonna take everybody through all the levels so they have a clear metric of like okay this is how it is

Like yeah there's no reason to cover up the ugliness

There's no reason to say that we are you know sometimes we bleed money sometimes we make a lot of money right

Yeah there's no shame in saying like I made a bad hire

There's no shame in saying like I made it but I made a bad call

Yeah there's no shame in saying that I woke up today I decided not to work because I feel like shit right it happens

We're humans

Is this the real world

Is yes the real world

Like this is the whole point of the journey right

Yeah there's too much going on in social media that makes it seem like it's so easy

And it's like yeah overnight in 30 days get rich quick

90 90 days

Like yes that's amazing and that gets the clicks and that gets the likes right

But that's not gonna get you the money that's not gonna get you the foundation of wealth that you need in order to live that you wanna do

Yeah

So I'm like okay let's document this and see where this goes

Cause I wish that everybody would have done that everything

Everybody that look up to I wish they would have done that when they were starting out

Yeah

We always get the story after it's built after now like okay

How did you get there though exactly

I don't think it was the three hour morning routine that made this possible

Yeah I've done

I think we have he has the journey and then me him and Aiden have Moblo go podcast

Yeah

And we need to resuscitate

Yeah

We kind of pause every now and again but I think my goal for the Mobile Go was mainly because like we were facetiming each other yeah for hours on end talking and trying to help each other

I was like why don't we just take this conversation and record it and people can learn off of that and take bites off of it

Yeah

So yeah that's part of the thing with like the mobile logos

It's not really to like make it a full blown podcast

It's just three guys trying to help each other right

You know yeah it's like the um the uh what is the big uh zoom call that we do with Augusta on the quarter round round yeah the round table

It's like making the round table public you know yeah just putting that out there now

I think it's great

I think any type of documentation that us young guys can do starting out is just you know gonna promote every aspect of our brand personal brand the Augusta brand moving forward

It's great

I mean I also think it's a great this is like also my way of journaling right

Yeah

You might do it writing

Yeah I I cannot I cannot I can't just it doesn't work

Yeah

So I much rather like English all right but I much rather talk but I much rather like it's just easier

Yeah it's easier because I've always been very social very like talkative

So I've like okay might as well just do what works

I've always been super into film making and producing content

Yeah

I've done it my entire life

It's fun it's so much fun dude and it's also like it's sad

I think it's fun to have to edit it then I wanna throw my keyboard

I even I think the editing process is even more fun cause you get to like weave the story around

Yeah I enjoy it but there are definitely aspects of it

I'm just like dude I just need I just need a clip I need a post

Like I have so much content you know there's there's size to both of it but I will say most people uh see it as very um superficial to enjoy posting it and getting the reaction from people more than actually doing the podcast

And I think there's a flip side to all of it but I I find enjoyment in doing something I enjoy which is uh you know I don't always enjoy lawn care but I will say that I enjoy sharing lawn care

I enjoy sharing the art of lawn care and doing the thing really really well being great at it filming it nicely editing it nicely and then posting it and seeing other people enjoy it is so satisfying

It is the entire process

And yes I do love seeing people react well to content that I post regardless of what your opinion on that is

Like I don't really care

I enjoy the full process of it including that bit

Yeah exactly

I think it's great

I think any type of documentation we can do now is it's killer

Yeah I think it is

I mean guys like us not

There's not very many of them out there anymore

Yeah there's not

And it's like like I also I mean like the huge like 360 degree view of it

It's like yeah make make an impact for the generations

Right

Like yeah like one thing written word was game changing for humanity overall right

But we're in an era where like no one's not a lot of you are gonna sit down and read a book right

Some people do it

That's right

I liked reading not as much as I like watching

Right right so it's like the one thing that's gonna stay stick around for a very very very long time is YouTube whether it's a video whatever film making it is

I mean I love watching movies

I love dissecting movie and seeing why they did this why they did that why they choose this camera angle why not this one

Why did they go this way with the story or not

So it's like this isn't but an autism

Okay but this is like this is like my way of portraying my love for that

Right yeah and I think it's great

I mean if if it helps even one single person it's for you

Yeah oh yeah dude so absolutely yeah it doesn't matter the amount

Yeah it matters of it matters if it and even dude even if nobody finds any positive impact from it if you if this is your way of journaling and documenting and looking back one day and saying dude I've come so far

This is awesome to see this kids and stuff

Right exactly I don't care who yeah who sees it

Um I feel the same way sometimes and it's it's really cool for me to like uh I post on on Instagram so that's that's like my one platform so I'll like I'll scroll back you know along ways and I'm like dude this is crazy

I know I saw this I always go back to like the very first video that I ever posted on YouTube and I'm just like cringe no way no way thought that was okay but we live in life yeah absolutely bro it was killing good yeah it's been great

I love this we're definitely we're definitely gonna do part two of this is oh yeah I think it's been we'll be back around

I've definitely taken a lot of things that I need to work on but um but I like I said this is it's a great time of your life

Like appreciate it because these are the moments that you will look back on and be like that

That was a pivotal moment in my life

Yeah I the most I've ever Learned and the happiest I ever felt was when I decided to downsize my life sell everything I owned and just grind as hard as I could work out as much as I could and work physically work as much as I could and just focus on me

And I was the happiest I ever was once I told myself I'm not gonna date again until I am fully satisfied with who I am as a person

It wasn't about uh it was just it was setting foot on that journey and being okay with it

That I was like bro it's just me in this big world and I'm gonna attack it by myself

And if somebody wants to find me along the way and do it with me that's great

If not I'm cool with it too

And once you are okay fully okay with with taking that step

Oh it's cake it's it's a it's a great time so yeah be thankful for it bro yeah and best of luck to you you're gonna do great

Thank you where can we find you at

If anyone wants to see any of your content in your little videos you do of course fun stuff ALC Knoxville is my Instagram handle uh it's also on Facebook I think it's under my personal name Caleb starts but Instagram is kind of the is my homebase

Uh I would love to get into longer form content I don't know about a podcast um I enjoyed

I'll help you yeah there's my guy you got me yeah yeah alright that's it thank you for time appreciate of course

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