1 00:10:19,768 --> 00:10:26,408 So yeah, the best way to stretch the budget is to go with companies like myself where you just come 2 00:10:26,408 --> 00:10:33,608 to one person to get a whole music package. So rather than going to this vendor that vendor that vendor 3 00:10:33,608 --> 00:10:38,568 that vendor to, so if you're all the music you come to us, we saw everything for you, 4 00:10:38,568 --> 00:10:45,128 so it's agey time and it's at money. Also, if you don't have much of a budget, so if it's not, 5 00:10:46,408 --> 00:10:51,288 you don't have a lot to spend on music, just then think about those key moments, so the ceremony, 6 00:10:51,288 --> 00:10:56,648 that's always a really key moment to have live music, because it's just so emotional and you know, 7 00:10:56,648 --> 00:11:02,488 the music will help with that. Or maybe in the evening, if you don't have the budget for a whole band, 8 00:11:02,488 --> 00:11:08,008 you can do a smaller setup, you can have a DJ with a saxophone player, if you still want that live 9 00:11:08,008 --> 00:11:13,848 feel, or even a singer, so you're just a smaller setup, so you can still have that live element, 10 00:11:13,848 --> 00:11:19,128 but it doesn't break your bank, you know. Using like the same musicians like from you through 11 00:11:19,128 --> 00:11:25,928 out of the day, would you try and work it and does it help to utilise the budget in the best way 12 00:11:25,928 --> 00:11:32,648 by having, say, your band to the evening and then selecting some of those people to perform, 13 00:11:32,648 --> 00:11:38,168 maybe either smaller group during dinner, a duo or a trio during the drinks reception, 14 00:11:38,168 --> 00:11:43,368 is that how that benefits couples by sort of helping them stretch their budget because you utilise 15 00:11:43,768 --> 00:11:49,688 sort of one musician through various points in the day. Yeah absolutely, and it's nice because it 16 00:11:49,688 --> 00:11:55,448 just gains familiarity as well, so everyone's seen that person during the day, and oh they're in the band, 17 00:11:55,448 --> 00:12:00,648 so soon gets to know that person throughout the whole day, and then you're celebrating with them 18 00:12:00,648 --> 00:12:05,448 in the end, so it's really, really nice for people to be on that journey with you as well as 19 00:12:05,448 --> 00:12:10,808 be a cheaper option for giving you live music throughout the day, so yeah, definitely. 20 00:12:10,808 --> 00:12:16,168 And logistically, you can get your soundcheck done before the guests are there as well, 21 00:12:16,168 --> 00:12:21,688 which I always think it's one of those moments where you've got the bands start coming in during dinner 22 00:12:21,688 --> 00:12:27,448 and you're like oh no, we're going to have lots of客 one, check two, mic mic mic, yeah one, two, three, 23 00:12:27,448 --> 00:12:33,128 you're like no, please don't do this during dinner, and I always advise my couples if they've 24 00:12:33,128 --> 00:12:38,088 got the budget and they can get the band there earlier to do that because it just, I think it takes a 25 00:12:38,088 --> 00:12:44,648 spark out of it almost, well sometimes, and we have had it once where it got the guests really excited 26 00:12:44,648 --> 00:12:49,448 about the band for that evening because they got to hear snippets of the kind of music like that is true, 27 00:12:49,448 --> 00:12:54,888 but most of the time it's that there's a surprise, there's the wow factor that we're going to hear later, 28 00:12:54,888 --> 00:13:00,808 but we've already heard what it's going to sound like. It surprises me actually that not more bands 29 00:13:00,808 --> 00:13:07,528 suggest this as a either upsell or a standard package with couples is to say okay, we'll perform 30 00:13:07,528 --> 00:13:12,328 later, but like what time you have in dinner because just pay for us to be there earlier because surely 31 00:13:12,328 --> 00:13:18,168 they enjoy being there, I mean I don't know, but surely they enjoy being there earlier setting up with 32 00:13:18,168 --> 00:13:23,768 less stress and then they can have some downtime, have their band meal and then get ready and change 33 00:13:23,768 --> 00:13:28,088 ready to go later instead of them, you know, I've heard reddings where a band member's been 34 00:13:28,088 --> 00:13:33,208 trafficked on the M25 and it's just stressful. I was if like everyone plans to be there earlier and 35 00:13:33,208 --> 00:13:38,568 charges accordingly for that obviously, but it just makes everyone's life a bit easier as well, 36 00:13:38,568 --> 00:13:44,648 but is that the same from sort of your perspective? Yeah absolutely, because also I've found a lot of 37 00:13:44,648 --> 00:13:53,368 weddings run slightly later than scheduled, so it's always a fath if say the coordinators said oh 5pm 38 00:13:53,368 --> 00:13:57,768 that's when you can start loading in, you know, but it comes to 5pm they're still eating so you 39 00:13:57,768 --> 00:14:02,488 have a car park waiting to load in, and you're like oh and you're just going wait another 10 minutes, 40 00:14:02,488 --> 00:14:07,208 another 10 minutes, so it turns into like six o'clock, you've got the first dance at seven and you, 41 00:14:07,208 --> 00:14:11,448 you know, you've allocated actually an hour and a half or two hours to get in there and set up 42 00:14:11,448 --> 00:14:16,808 sound check, so yeah it's nice that if you are there from earlier, all of that is done, you're just 43 00:14:16,808 --> 00:14:23,448 there waiting to then perform. Yeah, how do you deal with that lol that you get when you have a room 44 00:14:23,448 --> 00:14:28,968 change round, if you just come across to you as much as it does to like it's one of my absolute fears 45 00:14:28,968 --> 00:14:35,128 and paranoias is the lull most inner when everyone's asked to move out of the room whilst it's change 46 00:14:35,128 --> 00:14:39,288 round ready for the evening and all the guests come back in having had their cup of tea and they're all 47 00:14:39,288 --> 00:14:46,728 a bit full and feeling nostalgic, sleepy, do you notice that as a band how much you've got to bring 48 00:14:46,728 --> 00:14:52,568 those guests back up? No, I think because they're already excited now because they're never coming 49 00:14:52,568 --> 00:14:59,688 like what's next and like we're hey we're here, you know, so we are, yeah we're there to bring them 50 00:14:59,688 --> 00:15:05,448 back up, so it's not very, we don't feel the lull, right? Yeah, the lulls happen in the other room and 51 00:15:05,448 --> 00:15:10,248 then they're all the fun with it. We're there to just build it up and normally when they come back in 52 00:15:10,248 --> 00:15:14,808 they're there to cut the cake, do the first dance, so it's just, so it just keeps moving, you know, 53 00:15:14,808 --> 00:15:18,808 until the party and then the party, so yeah, we don't really feel that lull thank goodness. 54 00:15:21,128 --> 00:15:25,128 Any advice on how couples can combat it in the other room whilst you're doing that? 55 00:15:25,128 --> 00:15:32,248 Have live musician, have a live musician. Yeah I've got drinks, I've got a couple of people this year 56 00:15:32,248 --> 00:15:38,008 are having like a second drinks reception when their evening guests arrive, so with some music, 57 00:15:38,008 --> 00:15:44,648 so that it's sort of like a mini entrance, yeah, and starts to build it back up again, ready to 58 00:15:44,648 --> 00:15:50,088 go straight in and hit the dance floor. Oh absolutely, I think it's just a pre-cursor to what's 59 00:15:50,088 --> 00:15:56,888 going to happen in the next room. Yeah, build it up nicely. What considerations should couples 60 00:15:56,888 --> 00:16:01,768 make when looking to choose their live music? Like what are things that they need to think about 61 00:16:01,768 --> 00:16:09,368 when looking to book musicians for their wedding day? Yeah, I think the first thing we ask couples is 62 00:16:09,368 --> 00:16:13,608 what vibe are you trying to create? Because a lot of people are like, oh you want to live music? Okay, 63 00:16:13,608 --> 00:16:19,608 but what do you want? Like what are you trying to, because otherwise it's such an array and a lot of people 64 00:16:19,608 --> 00:16:25,208 put on like on Facebook groups are looking for a live band. Okay, what genre is your favorite? You know, 65 00:16:25,208 --> 00:16:29,448 what kind of style do you want to chill acoustic? Do you want it upbeat in your face? Like people 66 00:16:29,448 --> 00:16:35,048 need to really be specific with what it is they need first, so left up instead of all those things. 67 00:16:35,048 --> 00:16:39,288 I mean we can present them with options, but we like to present them with options that they are 68 00:16:39,288 --> 00:16:44,328 likely to be like yes otherwise it's just kind of wasting time be like oh what about this? And they're 69 00:16:44,328 --> 00:16:50,008 like oh no, you know, it's so common though. It's so common that you come across couples that 70 00:16:50,008 --> 00:16:55,768 just like we want a live band for you thing. Yeah, that is you've got it at the minute, how you 71 00:16:55,768 --> 00:17:01,048 where you've got a client who literally can't decide between three or four different genres. Yeah, 72 00:17:01,048 --> 00:17:07,288 what vibe they want for the evening and it makes it so difficult. Yeah, it's such a wide range. 73 00:17:07,288 --> 00:17:12,008 You have no way to narrow down your research if you don't know these basic things. Exactly. Yeah, 74 00:17:12,008 --> 00:17:16,088 absolutely because it'll just take so much more time if they don't have these things. 75 00:17:16,088 --> 00:17:26,648 Definitely so it's number one. Number two sound limiters. Yeah, it's really with the band that it 76 00:17:26,648 --> 00:17:32,408 makes like was with like a solo singer string quartet acoustic soul singer like in the corner. It 77 00:17:32,408 --> 00:17:37,608 doesn't matter but with a band and with a DJ in the eager and the sound limiter has yeah, 78 00:17:37,608 --> 00:17:44,488 there's a few venues actually where there's a sound limiter and you have to go through their speakers. 79 00:17:44,488 --> 00:17:51,128 So sometimes their speakers are above the dance floor. So when you're walking around your microphone, 80 00:17:51,128 --> 00:17:56,648 your microphone is speeding back because the speakers are directly above you and it's just like all 81 00:17:56,648 --> 00:18:03,288 these things but clients wouldn't know and venues don't necessarily tell clients until they're like 82 00:18:03,288 --> 00:18:09,768 I'm bringing in a band or I've got a DJ and sometimes they don't even do that. So there's always 83 00:18:09,768 --> 00:18:14,968 a question you should ask your venues is like do you have a sound limiter? Do they have to use your 84 00:18:14,968 --> 00:18:19,208 speakers or can they bring equipment in? So obviously we would prefer to bring our own equipment. We 85 00:18:19,208 --> 00:18:25,128 use it all the time and now her works when you're going to a venue especially if you haven't been 86 00:18:25,128 --> 00:18:31,848 there before and your sound check's going to take longer because you need to get the sound on point 87 00:18:31,848 --> 00:18:36,168 and make sure there isn't any feedback and that just takes longer and you're not quite sure how 88 00:18:36,168 --> 00:18:47,528 their equipment works. I've learned over the years quite naively for someone who isn't in music. 89 00:18:47,528 --> 00:18:51,928 You think it's a simple case of someone singing, someone's playing the instrument and it all just 90 00:18:51,928 --> 00:18:56,808 comes out beautifully. It's not, it's so much more technical than that and they're never leaving 91 00:18:56,808 --> 00:19:02,568 everything like that. The layers that you guys have to put in to make sure that that sound sounds 92 00:19:02,568 --> 00:19:12,568 like perfect is unreal and so beyond what you think it might be. It's good for couples to know and 93 00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:17,768 be able to understand that so like knowing about a sound limiter in things like that because otherwise 94 00:19:17,768 --> 00:19:22,168 we're going to have a flat dance loop because the sound doesn't sound good. And also with the sound 95 00:19:22,168 --> 00:19:26,968 limiters you have some that just warn you and others that actually just cut out, don't you? Like some 96 00:19:26,968 --> 00:19:35,928 just be anxiety because this was like oh my goodness and you're not really going to know 97 00:19:35,928 --> 00:19:40,968 until you've done the sound check if that's going to happen and then sometimes on the gig it happens 98 00:19:40,968 --> 00:19:45,368 as well. We had that one time literally and it is when we did the medley of four songs 99 00:19:46,008 --> 00:19:52,408 and the first dance it cut out but because everyone was singing along and they're having a saxophone 100 00:19:52,408 --> 00:19:58,488 player as well who didn't rely on the sound being on any electricity. Everyone just kept going 101 00:19:58,488 --> 00:20:03,848 until it came back up again towards the end so it happened but we worked with it. 102 00:20:03,848 --> 00:20:13,768 Yeah, my god. Well done yes, it's not. Yeah, so anxious. Seeing live recordings of acts is really 103 00:20:13,768 --> 00:20:19,208 important as well because sometimes as especially in the wedding industry we only do weddings or 104 00:20:19,208 --> 00:20:27,048 only private events. Sometimes people don't actually do public events so it's always good to ask 105 00:20:27,048 --> 00:20:32,488 or a live recording or just check all their live performances because people send you their polished 106 00:20:32,488 --> 00:20:40,008 promo videos and it's polished for a reason. So if you can hear how they sound live that is 107 00:20:40,008 --> 00:20:47,288 the absolute go-to. Yeah, you have a few showcases. No, but I'm trying to. Definitely trying to. 108 00:20:47,288 --> 00:20:52,168 I do, I personally do a lot of wedding fairs. I do wedding fairs on behalf of everybody in the 109 00:20:52,168 --> 00:20:58,488 company because it's so difficult to get people available free. It's also about to make people 110 00:20:58,488 --> 00:21:04,568 to come and showcase themselves so that they they get work, go for a run down the line and where I do 111 00:21:04,568 --> 00:21:11,928 the wedding fairs, people are like oh I saw you and I want you. I'm trying to get work for everybody 112 00:21:11,928 --> 00:21:17,928 so it's so important to do showcases. I think how we'll put something together to just show all 113 00:21:17,928 --> 00:21:23,688 of my singers, all the musicians because that'll be fun as well then itself. Yeah, we spoke about it on 114 00:21:23,688 --> 00:21:28,888 our one-year anniversary podcast. We had our husbands on from one year anniversary and Chris, my husband, 115 00:21:28,888 --> 00:21:36,008 was saying about how he managed to convince my mum into booking our band was because they held 116 00:21:36,008 --> 00:21:42,008 a showcase up in London and we'd had a call with them beforehand and we told them what our first 117 00:21:42,008 --> 00:21:47,768 dance was going to be. They'd learn our first dance and then performed it back to us and my mum literally 118 00:21:47,768 --> 00:21:54,008 she was just like I'm sold. Sign me up. Yeah, double the budget I wanted to spend but I don't care 119 00:21:54,008 --> 00:22:00,408 I'm sorry. Yeah and it just and I have lots of couples come to me and they're like can we see the band 120 00:22:00,408 --> 00:22:07,608 and you're like well we can look at videos yeah but that live experience I think has yeah holds so 121 00:22:07,608 --> 00:22:14,968 much gravitas. Yeah absolutely absolutely yeah she's getting everybody I mean one same day, same time. 122 00:22:14,968 --> 00:22:22,088 Yeah hard work. Yeah don't envy you there. We spoke about sound limiters a bit. What other 123 00:22:22,088 --> 00:22:27,288 challenges have you experienced while performing events and so what can couples do to prevent 124 00:22:27,288 --> 00:22:33,688 them from happening at their own weddings? Timing like I mentioned before just keeping on schedule 125 00:22:33,688 --> 00:22:39,768 so I always say to people if you haven't got an event planner and a wedding planner get one 126 00:22:39,768 --> 00:22:47,208 because it's so difficult to keep everything going on tracking on time and we rely on time so much 127 00:22:47,208 --> 00:22:55,208 as musicians and so yeah everybody just have a wedding planner please. Yeah it just yeah helps us out 128 00:22:55,208 --> 00:23:00,568 so much and I think even to the little details like for me and when I got married this was like 129 00:23:00,568 --> 00:23:08,968 13 years ago now I got married and I was my wedding planner and I was right it was just so stressful 130 00:23:08,968 --> 00:23:14,248 at the end I cried because everyone was coming to me with all these questions and I just wanted to 131 00:23:14,248 --> 00:23:19,048 enjoy myself. My mum said whoa I can't find the bars that I need to take back where do we put the 132 00:23:19,048 --> 00:23:24,568 rubbish to like the things I don't even need to concern myself with but I ended up concerning myself 133 00:23:24,568 --> 00:23:31,368 because I didn't have a wedding planner so yeah I think it's challenging when people think they can 134 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:38,408 do it all themselves be where all the hats yeah and all of the other vendors are just like kind of 135 00:23:38,408 --> 00:23:43,448 flailing in the wind because there's no plan and there's no structure and something. But they always 136 00:23:43,448 --> 00:23:48,248 you look for the person in the white dress because that is typical yeah they're the easiest way to start 137 00:23:48,248 --> 00:23:54,088 aren't they yeah they are they will just they will go to unless I mean we've advised couples that 138 00:23:54,088 --> 00:24:02,728 don't have planners to have person a contact person from the day isn't the bride for those exact 139 00:24:02,728 --> 00:24:07,288 reasons that they can just go to and be like what do I do with this what do I do with that because 140 00:24:07,288 --> 00:24:16,648 you're right like yeah it's it's so hard to manage all of that and try and be present yeah exactly 141 00:24:16,648 --> 00:24:23,368 it's too stressful so yeah I'm a big fan of having someone other than the brides of contact 142 00:24:23,368 --> 00:24:32,408 however if I was a bride and I wanted to come and speak to you about music tell us about how the 143 00:24:32,408 --> 00:24:40,808 process works with okles when they approach you for music yeah so we get people to fill in an inquiry 144 00:24:40,808 --> 00:24:46,168 form so that we've got all the details so we can actually make an accurate quote because a lot a lot 145 00:24:46,168 --> 00:24:51,288 of the time people are if they if they're not getting married to say 2020 they don't have all the 146 00:24:51,288 --> 00:24:57,848 details but if it's like a more recent one a one that's coming up we we just have all the details 147 00:24:57,848 --> 00:25:02,408 that we like okay we will say that this is the price for that what I hate doing is giving the price 148 00:25:02,408 --> 00:25:07,208 and then things change that oh well now it's going to be this you know so I like to really have as 149 00:25:07,208 --> 00:25:14,248 much information as possible in that inquiry form and then we send back an accurate quote with options 150 00:25:14,248 --> 00:25:19,208 as well we like to give like then few options not too much like so if I mean to give people 151 00:25:19,208 --> 00:25:23,448 way too much options they get overwhelmed that always overwhelmed anyway and then you're like 152 00:25:23,448 --> 00:25:29,208 okay there's ten singers too to look through like no we don't yeah we just pick what what we think 153 00:25:29,208 --> 00:25:37,448 would suit the requirements that you've been specified and then I yeah give them a call and see 154 00:25:37,448 --> 00:25:42,568 just find out a little bit about about them and their love story I love people's love stories how 155 00:25:42,568 --> 00:25:48,888 they got together you know how they how they proposed like I love all of that because I think that 156 00:25:48,888 --> 00:25:55,368 then feeds into who I'm gonna choose and like who I know seems that some really well or you know 157 00:25:55,368 --> 00:26:00,008 in that kind of thing so that's really good and then yeah further down the line when they book 158 00:26:00,008 --> 00:26:06,568 to book we always ask for a 20% deposit and then they remain in your mouth six weeks before the 159 00:26:06,568 --> 00:26:11,528 event and then we have like a dissertation I love meeting up with the couples again to find out 160 00:26:11,528 --> 00:26:18,248 their stories and yeah you're all planning with all the plans together I get all the the artists 161 00:26:18,248 --> 00:26:26,088 what they need and then yeah the day just goes pretty well yeah do you ever have couples come to you 162 00:26:26,088 --> 00:26:33,208 and want to completely and utterly control the setlist how do you deal with that yeah great question 163 00:26:33,208 --> 00:26:42,168 yeah do you know what and I I do it to a certain degree because sometimes they have so many requests 164 00:26:42,168 --> 00:26:47,928 maybe outside of our repertoire that I'm like it's actually impossible for us to like run the whole 165 00:26:47,928 --> 00:26:54,328 of the wedding season and learn your 15 songs as well but I do I do make them aware that we do have 166 00:26:54,328 --> 00:27:01,928 limited time if they give us a good like three two three months in advance then I do allow about 167 00:27:01,928 --> 00:27:08,888 four or five requests but at the end of the day like I send them our Spotify playlist these are the 168 00:27:08,888 --> 00:27:13,928 songs that we normally do pick some out of these let me know which ones you definitely don't want if 169 00:27:13,928 --> 00:27:19,928 they like your ex partner or something yeah I don't like that one you know what they what they like 170 00:27:19,928 --> 00:27:26,008 what they don't like and then yeah go from there because a lot of the time people have their idea 171 00:27:26,008 --> 00:27:32,568 of what they love but they also have the cater to everybody yet your audience is your party if you 172 00:27:32,568 --> 00:27:37,848 want people to then your friends and your family and it has to roll together as well doesn't it 173 00:27:37,848 --> 00:27:44,248 one song needs to roll into the next song nicely it can't be like a love song into suddenly a proper 174 00:27:44,248 --> 00:27:49,928 high song yeah that just doesn't work yeah so then the first time so that's the time that you have 175 00:27:49,928 --> 00:27:56,888 those two minutes yeah together but exactly yeah it's got a flow yeah yeah but most of our 176 00:27:56,888 --> 00:28:02,808 our words and rooms they trust us to yeah right and make it work so yeah they don't mind requests here 177 00:28:02,808 --> 00:28:09,208 and everything but the whole set list I'm like well then why don't you just play your playlist yeah 178 00:28:09,208 --> 00:28:16,728 what is your most memorable event that you've done so far you're most memorable wedding or 179 00:28:16,728 --> 00:28:22,808 celebration I think definitely the one where we provided live music all day that was the the one 180 00:28:22,808 --> 00:28:29,368 where we chose the music from country and to me so because she had myself singing as people 181 00:28:30,168 --> 00:28:35,608 walked in so as yeah as people were entering and sitting down and they showed me singing for the 182 00:28:35,608 --> 00:28:41,768 ceremony and they shared a sax player for the drinks reception so that was quite nice and then 183 00:28:41,768 --> 00:28:49,368 for yeah the wedding breakfast in between every every meal she had a eight-piece band just come 184 00:28:49,368 --> 00:28:55,368 out and they were like oh wow so they had this star then they have someone's table and have their 185 00:28:55,368 --> 00:29:00,488 mates that was beautiful it just built up so nicely towards the end because everybody was just 186 00:29:00,488 --> 00:29:05,208 up dancing ready for the evening reception we kind of had to bring them down a little bit 187 00:29:05,208 --> 00:29:11,768 for the first dance yeah and then built back up again for the evening and I just think it was memorable 188 00:29:11,768 --> 00:29:18,088 because she trusted me to do the whole day you know and saw all of that out and that was the first 189 00:29:18,088 --> 00:29:26,648 time I had my band featuring in every single part of her wedding so putting it all together and we 190 00:29:26,648 --> 00:29:31,368 just felt like a real team effort and I loved that because it's like we've all got one goal and that's 191 00:29:31,368 --> 00:29:37,368 just to make it incredible and amazing and memorable and so everyone is just on the same page and 192 00:29:37,368 --> 00:29:44,408 yeah musicians are incredible so that's definitely one of my memorable ones another one is I went to 193 00:29:44,408 --> 00:29:52,808 Cypress last year my first international well international by myself yeah wedding and they they 194 00:29:52,808 --> 00:29:57,928 had met me in a place called the Rudy May in May I was and they were like well you come and do 195 00:29:57,928 --> 00:30:06,648 our wedding it's in Cypress I'm like definitely yeah you days away from the kids as well yeah exactly 196 00:30:06,648 --> 00:30:13,688 why not so yeah that might that being my first international wedding by myself was so memorable 197 00:30:13,688 --> 00:30:21,288 because it was just so warm just being on yeah being on the islands and just having a great time with 198 00:30:21,288 --> 00:30:27,288 them yeah I loved it five feels totally different as well doesn't it with an abroad wedding yeah they're 199 00:30:27,288 --> 00:30:32,728 just chill that's chill and I love that the DJ because I don't have only had to take my microphone 200 00:30:32,728 --> 00:30:40,168 and my music plug into their DJ and I was off in a way yeah yeah it was really simple really really 201 00:30:40,168 --> 00:30:45,928 simple do the really quick sound check and yeah do two one hour sets of party music and it's pretty 202 00:30:45,928 --> 00:30:55,528 I'm just on a beach it's great it's great so we kind of doubled a little bit about um Blackbird 203 00:30:55,528 --> 00:31:00,808 Entertainment but tell us give us an overview of what who you are and who your business is and 204 00:31:00,808 --> 00:31:06,328 what you're about where you sort of cover and things because you go internationally it would be 205 00:31:06,328 --> 00:31:14,088 good for all listeners to know sort of may you perform yeah so we are this may we'll be 18 years 206 00:31:14,088 --> 00:31:22,568 in McGay what crazy is like have nearly have an adult company yeah um but yeah well based in Kent 207 00:31:22,568 --> 00:31:28,968 and we um yeah obviously we have loads of singers we have bands musicians DJs and it's not just for 208 00:31:28,968 --> 00:31:33,608 weekends we do any events I love a birthday party at the moment we can do a lot of 40th birthday 209 00:31:33,608 --> 00:31:41,528 parties which is my era yeah my kind of music just like the R&B the garage that kind of thing is just 210 00:31:41,528 --> 00:31:48,648 yeah yeah so much but we just love to like I say tell a story through people's weddings and that 211 00:31:48,648 --> 00:31:54,008 I love to get to know the couples I think that's really really key and and different I will not just 212 00:31:54,008 --> 00:31:59,528 providing live music we're providing your sound your whole soundtrack you know just tying in your 213 00:31:59,528 --> 00:32:06,328 love story with the music and just making it yeah it's making it work so that's what I love to do you 214 00:32:06,328 --> 00:32:14,728 do a range of like obviously we touch on how you can convert styles from country to neo but do you 215 00:32:14,728 --> 00:32:21,208 do you kind of put yourself into a genre like or are you totally broad and someone can come to you 216 00:32:21,208 --> 00:32:29,208 for anything yeah I think for me personally I'm very much solo town R&B disco party style but we have 217 00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:35,688 other acts that do like country rock you know the string quartet with the classical but with a R&B 218 00:32:35,688 --> 00:32:40,728 soul twist which is like really unique and different and a very Bridgerton-esque which we love 219 00:32:40,728 --> 00:32:47,608 yeah that's very in at the minute isn't it yeah it is I can't wait to see the next part 220 00:32:47,608 --> 00:32:53,368 now I'm waiting yeah other guys this is going out a lot later oh it is yeah we want to do it 221 00:32:53,368 --> 00:33:03,368 if we might see R&B for season four part two by the time this is going out but yeah we do a wide range 222 00:33:03,368 --> 00:33:08,648 and we all the time we're adding to our roster as well and if I see someone that I'm like oh you're 223 00:33:08,648 --> 00:33:15,208 amazing and then I'm like can you like to join to be part of it you've got on your roster at the 224 00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:24,568 minute at the moment 37 oh wow yeah so it's growing all the time which is it's fun but I always like to 225 00:33:24,568 --> 00:33:30,168 get again get to know the acts because you could have the most fantastic voice but if you're not 226 00:33:30,168 --> 00:33:38,008 a great person it's like yeah you know that's always have to have like a meetup just like in 227 00:33:38,008 --> 00:33:44,248 feel your vibe do we you know do we click do we clash you know that kind of thing because that's 228 00:33:44,248 --> 00:33:48,488 really important if I'm if you're going out there representing Blackbird Entertainment I need to know 229 00:33:48,488 --> 00:33:54,568 you're going to go out there correctly professionally you know all those things so yeah we choose our 230 00:33:54,568 --> 00:33:59,768 people very carefully because let's say we're with a small company so yeah everything comes back 231 00:33:59,768 --> 00:34:05,128 on us you know so it's really really important to have just good human beings being with us 232 00:34:05,128 --> 00:34:10,488 so where can our listeners get hold of you if they want to get in touch or find out more about 233 00:34:10,488 --> 00:34:16,248 Blackbird Entertainment are you online we'll put everything in the show notes but just handy to 234 00:34:16,248 --> 00:34:25,688 to share where we can get hold of you so you can find us online our website is www.blackhyphen 235 00:34:25,688 --> 00:34:34,328 birdhyphen entertainment.com and you'll find us on Instagram and you'll find us on TikTok at the 236 00:34:34,328 --> 00:34:43,368 minute you're in the TikTok group yeah well done yeah that was a challenge with it and this goes going 237 00:34:43,368 --> 00:34:48,648 well I was going really well so yeah Instagram, Facebook and TikTok you'll find this as well 238 00:34:48,648 --> 00:34:59,368 perfect we like to end each episode with top tip for our listeners so what is your top tip your 239 00:34:59,368 --> 00:35:10,808 general wedding top tip for all this is my top tip is you do you boo yeah love it you do you boo because 240 00:35:10,808 --> 00:35:16,008 it was a bit like I could say when I got married there were so many voices so many voices in my head 241 00:35:16,008 --> 00:35:20,328 you should do this you should do that oh I wouldn't do that you sure you want to get married there 242 00:35:20,328 --> 00:35:28,648 yeah like let me do what me and my husband wanted to do okay yeah you wait so long and you save up 243 00:35:28,648 --> 00:35:33,448 for so long for this day and just to have people be like well I'm not sitting with that person 244 00:35:33,448 --> 00:35:41,048 because you know past trauma or past whatever like come on like let's make it simple we're not 245 00:35:41,048 --> 00:35:46,248 spending crazy amounts of money for people just to turn off on the day and start fighting you know 246 00:35:46,248 --> 00:35:53,368 so do what you want to do is you don't have to be traditional you don't have to you know do everything 247 00:35:53,368 --> 00:36:01,528 like everybody normally does it you do you boo that's brilliant great hit thank you so much and thank 248 00:36:01,528 --> 00:36:07,448 you for joining us and me it's been so lovely to speak to you and next week we're talking about 249 00:36:07,448 --> 00:36:16,488 managing RSVPs yes done done done done fun time thank you so much we will see you then bye thank you 250 00:36:16,488 --> 00:36:17,488 Bye. Bye. 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,160 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,240 3 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:29,880 Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the Wedding Lounge podcast. 4 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,040 This week we have got the lovely Ebonie from Blackbird Entertainment who is here talking 5 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,080 for us about all things musical. Hi Ebonie 6 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,280 Hello. How are you doing? 7 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,960 Yeah, it's lovely to have you. Thank you so much for coming on today. 8 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,360 Yeah, thanks for having me. 9 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:54,160 So we would like to ask you, Evony, how pupils can incorporate live music into their wedding. 10 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,680 How would you suggest people do it? 11 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:03,680 I would suggest that they have it all day, but I agree. 12 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,760 I love music so much and I just think it's so important the way that music can just bring 13 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,080 people together and actually make you feel something. 14 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:18,440 For the ceremony, we normally say you can have music where people are getting seated. 15 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:23,000 So as soon as people come in they've got some kind of feelings, some kind of atmosphere 16 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,160 of love and joy and you know it's right from the get-go. 17 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,080 So we normally say about 30 minutes of music as guests have been seated and then of course 18 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,880 you've got the bridal party in the bridal green walking down the aisle and then you've 19 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,640 got the signing of the register. 20 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,240 So those little bits where people are just sitting around not really doing much is really 21 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,520 nice to put music in there for people to have focal point or so it's a concentrate on 22 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,840 or even just something in the background while they catch up in chat which is really nice. 23 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,360 And then obviously you've got the walking back up the aisle. 24 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,680 This reception is always an amazing place to put live music because it's either nice in 25 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:09,240 the background or again if you want to entertain your guests, people like have a band where they 26 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,960 can just walk around with a roaming band. 27 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:17,880 If you want to entertain your guests like that or it could just be just something simple 28 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,640 in the background like a string quartet, solo singing a nice chill acoustic vibe so there's 29 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:26,200 so much variety for a drinks reception. 30 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,440 And then the next part for the wedding breakfast. 31 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:35,320 I think wedding breakfasts are notoriously long, like all the three courses if you're having 32 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,920 the three courses. 33 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:44,240 So just having a bit of music there in the background is amazing to lighten the mood and 34 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,600 again if you just want it to be backbone or if you want it to entertain, we did an amazing 35 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:54,560 wedding where we had our eight-piece band performing in-between the meals. 36 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:00,500 So no one was ever bored, it was literally like, I'm going to eat now and now we're going 37 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:01,500 to have some entertainment. 38 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:02,500 Oh, that's cool. 39 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:04,000 I'm going to eat some more and more entertainment. 40 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,640 Like there's always something to look at, something to do, you know, which I absolutely 41 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:09,640 enjoy. 42 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:12,960 That's such a nice thing to do because usually people think to put the speeches between 43 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:13,960 courses. 44 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,960 Which is lovely. 45 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:24,940 Yeah, I love it when people, I have seen one wedding where someone had a mariachi band just 46 00:03:24,940 --> 00:03:29,640 as they went into the meal and then none of the guests wanted to sit down and eat food. 47 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:34,040 So the caterers were like, okay, we need to bring the food out, it's ready but everyone was 48 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,040 up. 49 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,760 That was too much of a vibe that people didn't want to miss out. 50 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,680 You've got to think carefully about how the people have got to think how the music fits 51 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,720 in with like actual services of the, I guess you nailed it on the head though, really. 52 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,080 When you say it creates the atmosphere, doesn't it? 53 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:54,480 Like you are, you can control the narrative of the whole entire day through the music. 54 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Yeah. 55 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:56,480 Yeah, absolutely. 56 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,040 It just tells like a whole story and you want that story to reflect the couple and their 57 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,040 love story. 58 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,840 It's literally like just playing out in front of you, you know, just accordingly. 59 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:06,840 So yeah, definitely. 60 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:13,720 And I think the last part, obviously the big evening, yeah, with like an amazing DJ, with 61 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,120 like an epic band alongside them. 62 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,460 That's always my favourite go to because again, there you've got variety, it's not just a 63 00:04:20,460 --> 00:04:27,040 DJ, it's not just a band, but if you have both, you've got that flexibility of, you know, 64 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,360 if the musicians don't know a song or haven't got a song, the DJ will definitely have that 65 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,360 song, you know. 66 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:37,680 So you've got variety there and it's just a nice way to close the night, go out on a bang. 67 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,880 Yeah, exactly, exactly. 68 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,200 Music all day. 69 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Yeah. 70 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,360 I think you've kind of mentioned some of them there, but what are the benefits of people having 71 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,000 live musicians at weddings? 72 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,880 I mean, for me, I prefer live musicians, so I'm not there having to press play on like a 73 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:00,000 list or for five hundred or five hundred and I hate doing that. 74 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,720 You know, what are the reasons why people live for live music? 75 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,000 Like, what are the benefits of having live music, I guess, over sort of a PA system of the 76 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,000 phone? 77 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Yeah. 78 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,520 So get, like you said, you don't have to rely on someone, press and play at the right point. 79 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,800 Like, the musicians would have been briefed specifically on what to start and when to 80 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:22,440 start and when to, you know, and I think having live musicians is so unique because not 81 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,440 everybody performs songs the second way as you hear on a track, so you're literally getting 82 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,760 a unique performance, you know, on your special day. 83 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,320 And what are five songs even? 84 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,880 We had, oh, we had a, we had a bride who loved this country song, but she was like, can you 85 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,040 turn it to a neo-soul version because I hate country music? 86 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,840 Oh, the lyrics. 87 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:47,800 And I looked to her and I was like, that's such a genius idea. 88 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:53,320 And I heard some, I was like, oh my goodness, what a beautiful song it literally wants me to 89 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,320 tears. 90 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,280 But I understood the whole, like the country vibe wasn't my vibe either. 91 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:00,280 So the fact she said, can you do a neo-soul version? 92 00:06:00,280 --> 00:06:01,280 I'm like, yeah. 93 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:04,040 You got a video of that on your Instagram? 94 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,960 Ah, I've done, but you know what, I'm going to put it out. 95 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:07,960 I will put it out. 96 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:08,960 Yeah. 97 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,960 I'd love to see what, because I quite like country music, but I'm also used to love a 98 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,960 bit of neo back in the day. 99 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,440 So I would love to see how that works. 100 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,280 We've got like a clip of it, I'll definitely put that out at some point, because it's just 101 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:20,880 so beautifully done. 102 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,240 And that was for her father, daughter dance. 103 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,240 So that was... 104 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,240 Oh. 105 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,360 Oh my gosh, the word, I just wanted to cry. 106 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,360 Yes. 107 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:30,360 That's so cute. 108 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,360 So, so cute. 109 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,720 And like another couple actually wanted us to do a medley of four songs. 110 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,000 And they gave us the songs and we were like, they, how are we going to do this? 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,160 Because they are so different, like the songs were so different from each other, but we got 112 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:51,400 the band together, we worked out different keys and, you know, different time signatures and 113 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,480 just how to make it fit. 114 00:06:53,480 --> 00:07:00,060 And eventually we made it fit, and it flowed so well, but that's something you can't do, 115 00:07:00,060 --> 00:07:01,840 you know, without live musicians. 116 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:06,680 You can't, you can't, well, I guess you could press one song after another, but it just 117 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:07,680 wouldn't flow, you know. 118 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,680 Yeah. 119 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,440 You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't give it the same beat, can you, you can't give 120 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,440 it the same tempo. 121 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,440 That's what I'm looking at. 122 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Beautiful. 123 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,560 To then make one flow into the other. 124 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:18,560 Exactly. 125 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,760 You have to do with live musicians and we, we've made it work and made the couple absolutely 126 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:23,760 loved it. 127 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,720 So I love to mash up. 128 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,720 Yeah. 129 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,720 Absolutely. 130 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:28,720 You love a mash up. 131 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,800 You're a fan of like the seven minute, what is it? 132 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,520 Is it the seven minutes out of today's mash up? 133 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,520 Have you heard that one? 134 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,520 No. 135 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:44,420 I remember at my brother's wedding, I commented the DJ and asked him to wind up my stepdad because 136 00:07:44,420 --> 00:07:49,320 there's a song Richard Marx right here waiting for you, winds up my stepdad like so much. 137 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,560 It was his wedding song to his ex-boyfriend. 138 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,640 And he absolutely loves, beauty love, boogie tonight, which totally different. 139 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,640 So I've got the DJ. 140 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,440 I said, can you just start playing Richard Marx to wind up and then like partway through 141 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,200 just like switch it up to beauty love and I literally just asked him there on the evening 142 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,280 when I was drunk and sprites made and he did it and I was like, this is amazing. 143 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,840 No one else got it but my stepdad and I and my mum and my brother were like, this is brilliant 144 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,480 because his reaction went from, oh my gosh, what is this? 145 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:19,480 I hate this song too. 146 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Oh my god. 147 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Oh my god. 148 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,720 Yeah, live musicians like doing that in advance which just speak, yeah. 149 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,720 Yeah. 150 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,640 And there's those little moments just that you will remember for a project. 151 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,360 I mean it's like, yeah, so I'm going to speak to the situation, is that inside joke that 152 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,520 no one else gets but you'll do that? 153 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:47,160 And also like in a world full of AI now and artificial, that human element of a musical 154 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,520 performance is just, it just creates like a wonder like people are drawn to it. 155 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,720 People often might stop and listen, you know, and take in the sounds and stuff. 156 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,160 It's just, yeah, it's just nice to have human, humans do the job. 157 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,160 But interacting. 158 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,640 Yeah, like you can pull people onto the dance floor physically, you can go out and you 159 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,080 can engage with the crowd. 160 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,520 You can get them on the dance floor and that's something that you can't do with just played 161 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:15,520 music. 162 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,520 No. 163 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,680 So you need to have the people there and that's what creates the atmosphere, that's what creates 164 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:22,000 the magic, isn't it, really? 165 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,400 Yeah, whether that's a live DJ who's like interacting, like did an MC or a saxophonist 166 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,600 or, but it's just having, having that interaction with guests and it makes it more of an entertainment 167 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:33,600 for the guests. 168 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,600 It's the same. 169 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,960 Like during the drinks reception, people might have it as background music or you can do 170 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,720 roaming artists or things that are a bit more interactive and it becomes more, because 171 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:48,000 we did a Q&A session a few weeks ago and one of the questions was sort of about how much 172 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:53,480 entertainment they need and we said if you've got good music, like that is like, you know, 173 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,480 is brilliant entertainment. 174 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,520 If you've got your live music and that sort of element, it just sets the tone. 175 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:59,520 Yeah. 176 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,520 People remember it as well. 177 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:01,520 Yeah. 178 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,520 Yeah. 179 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:07,600 How would you advise couples make the most, I mean I personally, and lots of my clients that 180 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:14,600 come to me, entertainment's quite a big important factor in their day, but how would you advise 181 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,360 couples to make the most out of their entertainment budget that they set aside for their wedding?