1 00:00:07,050 --> 00:00:11,270 Claire Bown: Hello and welcome to The Art Engager podcast with me, Claire Bown. 2 00:00:14,370 --> 00:00:18,480 I'm here to share techniques and tools to help you engage with your audience 3 00:00:18,570 --> 00:00:22,020 and bring art objects and ideas to life. 4 00:00:23,220 --> 00:00:24,870 So let's dive into this week's show. 5 00:00:30,420 --> 00:00:34,200 Hello and welcome to a new episode of The Art Engager. 6 00:00:34,590 --> 00:00:39,150 I'm Claire Bown, and today's episode is a little different. 7 00:00:39,810 --> 00:00:44,970 So in March, 2026, I traveled to Atlanta, Georgia for the National 8 00:00:44,970 --> 00:00:50,310 Convening on Art and Social Connection organized by the High Museum of Art. 9 00:00:51,034 --> 00:00:54,574 This was a two day event, bringing together people from across the 10 00:00:54,574 --> 00:00:59,494 arts, public health research, aging, social services, and policy 11 00:00:59,494 --> 00:01:03,184 sectors to explore one big question. 12 00:01:04,744 --> 00:01:08,614 How can engagement with visual art help combat loneliness and 13 00:01:08,614 --> 00:01:10,834 build more connected communities? 14 00:01:12,049 --> 00:01:15,169 And if that sounds like a broad question, it is. 15 00:01:15,559 --> 00:01:19,669 But what struck me about this convening was how seriously and 16 00:01:19,669 --> 00:01:22,339 how practically it was tackled. 17 00:01:23,074 --> 00:01:28,384 There were researchers presenting data on the health risks of social isolation. 18 00:01:28,654 --> 00:01:33,754 There were practitioners sharing real programs with real participants and 19 00:01:33,754 --> 00:01:38,644 real evaluations, and there were honest conversations about funding, about 20 00:01:38,644 --> 00:01:43,714 sustainability, and about what it actually takes to do this work well. 21 00:01:44,869 --> 00:01:49,399 Now if you work in a museum, you'll know that conversations about social 22 00:01:49,399 --> 00:01:53,539 connection, wellbeing have been growing louder in recent years. 23 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:58,339 More and more museums are developing programs that respond to loneliness, 24 00:01:58,369 --> 00:02:02,089 isolation, grief, aging, and so on. 25 00:02:03,049 --> 00:02:06,409 But there are harder questions underneath all of that. 26 00:02:07,624 --> 00:02:13,744 Like what does it actually take to do this work well, as something an organization 27 00:02:13,744 --> 00:02:21,724 commits to genuinely, something that IT resources and sustains and also how 28 00:02:21,724 --> 00:02:24,274 do we build the evidence that it works. 29 00:02:24,619 --> 00:02:28,939 Not just anecdotal evidence, which I'm sure we all have from 30 00:02:28,939 --> 00:02:34,339 our experiences, but rigorous evidence that stands up to scrutiny. 31 00:02:35,479 --> 00:02:39,364 And how do we make sure that the wider world actually hears about it. 32 00:02:40,744 --> 00:02:46,084 Because museums are doing remarkable things in this space, and too 33 00:02:46,084 --> 00:02:48,844 often it stays within our bubble. 34 00:02:49,084 --> 00:02:53,794 The health sector, policy makers, funders, and the wider public, they 35 00:02:53,794 --> 00:02:56,674 just don't get to know or hear about it. 36 00:02:59,059 --> 00:03:03,409 So these are questions I've been thinking about for a long time now, from doing 37 00:03:03,409 --> 00:03:08,479 this podcast for nearly five years, from running workshops, from talking to 38 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:11,059 museum professionals all over the world. 39 00:03:11,659 --> 00:03:15,769 And in March, I took these questions with me to Atlanta. 40 00:03:16,099 --> 00:03:20,719 This convening gave me a lot to think about in response. 41 00:03:22,324 --> 00:03:26,074 So in this episode, I want to take you through what I heard, what I learned, 42 00:03:26,464 --> 00:03:31,564 and what I think it means for those of us working in museums and cultural spaces. 43 00:03:32,014 --> 00:03:34,084 We'll look at the scale of the problem. 44 00:03:34,084 --> 00:03:38,644 We'll hear from some of the speakers and panelists who were in the room, and we'll 45 00:03:38,644 --> 00:03:44,914 think about what it actually takes to do this work well, evidence it, and make 46 00:03:44,914 --> 00:03:48,154 sure the wider world hears all about it. 47 00:03:50,194 --> 00:03:54,064 So the National Convening on Art and Social Connection was organized by 48 00:03:54,064 --> 00:03:59,094 Laurel Humble, associate Director for lifelong learning and accessibility at 49 00:03:59,094 --> 00:04:02,064 the High Museum of Art and her team. 50 00:04:02,454 --> 00:04:08,304 The High was founded in 1905 and it's the largest art museum in 51 00:04:08,304 --> 00:04:10,974 the southeastern United States. 52 00:04:11,304 --> 00:04:16,464 It has built its reputation on being not just a collection of artworks, 53 00:04:17,034 --> 00:04:22,134 but a civic institution, a museum that takes its role in the community 54 00:04:22,134 --> 00:04:28,854 seriously, that reflects the diversity of Atlanta and that thinks of itself as 55 00:04:28,854 --> 00:04:31,734 a place for people, as much as for art. 56 00:04:33,519 --> 00:04:37,959 And that came through in everything I saw and heard during my time 57 00:04:37,959 --> 00:04:42,849 there from the staff I met, from the docents, the speakers who traveled 58 00:04:42,849 --> 00:04:47,529 in to take part in the convening and the visitors I met in the galleries. 59 00:04:47,529 --> 00:04:52,239 There's a real warmth to this place and a real commitment to the 60 00:04:52,239 --> 00:04:56,919 kind of community centered work that the convening was all about. 61 00:04:57,249 --> 00:05:00,429 So it felt like exactly the right setting. 62 00:05:02,004 --> 00:05:05,374 The convening opened with some welcome remarks from the High's 63 00:05:05,394 --> 00:05:10,584 director Rand Suffolk, who explained more about the work of the museum 64 00:05:11,934 --> 00:05:13,014 Rand Suffolk: at the High Museum of Art. 65 00:05:13,014 --> 00:05:17,274 We believe our museums must play an active role in strengthening the social 66 00:05:17,274 --> 00:05:22,494 fabric of our communities and every day, as we strive to be among the leading 67 00:05:22,494 --> 00:05:24,444 visual arts institutions in the nation. 68 00:05:24,894 --> 00:05:28,524 It's our goal to be a place where both new and experienced museum visitors 69 00:05:29,064 --> 00:05:33,109 can discover opportunities for connection, inspiration, and meaning. 70 00:05:34,489 --> 00:05:37,764 Claire Bown: And the High has been building this kind of work for the better 71 00:05:37,764 --> 00:05:42,264 part of a decade through their programs, their research, their partnerships. 72 00:05:42,504 --> 00:05:46,554 And we'll come back to some of this throughout this episode. 73 00:05:48,354 --> 00:05:52,554 But first, let's talk about what this convening was actually responding 74 00:05:52,554 --> 00:05:56,544 to; loneliness and social isolation. 75 00:05:56,934 --> 00:06:02,004 Now, we often use those terms together or interchangeably, but 76 00:06:02,004 --> 00:06:07,194 they're actually not the same thing, and the distinction really matters. 77 00:06:07,914 --> 00:06:12,834 Dr. Kathy Bruss, a clinical psychologist and the former mental health lead at 78 00:06:12,834 --> 00:06:17,814 the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, explained it really 79 00:06:17,814 --> 00:06:19,704 clearly to us during the convening. 80 00:06:19,914 --> 00:06:20,724 Have a listen. 81 00:06:21,384 --> 00:06:26,364 Kathy Bruss: So social isolation is really about the lack of relationships 82 00:06:26,424 --> 00:06:30,624 and infrequent social contact activities or group memberships. 83 00:06:30,924 --> 00:06:34,254 So it could be somebody who lives alone, doesn't talk with friends 84 00:06:34,254 --> 00:06:38,544 or other people very much, or just doesn't have contact with people much. 85 00:06:38,874 --> 00:06:43,494 Isolation is associated with health risks, even if people don't feel lonely. 86 00:06:44,064 --> 00:06:49,044 So that comes up a lot where it's like, 'well, I'm not lonely, I'm fine'. 87 00:06:49,134 --> 00:06:50,514 But that makes a big difference. 88 00:06:50,514 --> 00:06:53,904 Isolation in and of itself is at health risk. 89 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:58,719 Whereas loneliness is the feeling of being alone or disconnected from 90 00:06:58,719 --> 00:07:02,349 others, regardless of the amount of social contact someone has. 91 00:07:02,349 --> 00:07:04,149 So that's more subjective. 92 00:07:04,329 --> 00:07:09,069 So even a person with a lot of friends can feel lonely, and you 93 00:07:09,069 --> 00:07:14,199 can also feel really lonely in a crowd or in a group of friends. 94 00:07:14,289 --> 00:07:18,279 And loneliness also reflects the difference between how much 95 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:22,524 social contact a person has and how much they would like to have. 96 00:07:22,854 --> 00:07:28,974 So it signals a deficit that something is missing, sort of like thirst or hunger. 97 00:07:30,174 --> 00:07:34,284 Claire Bown: And the scale of what Kathy was describing is really significant. 98 00:07:34,794 --> 00:07:38,514 In his welcome, Rand shared some statistics that it's worth 99 00:07:38,574 --> 00:07:39,804 pausing on for a moment here. 100 00:07:41,449 --> 00:07:49,699 He said that 31% of young adults, aged 18 to 29 say they're always or often lonely. 101 00:07:51,169 --> 00:07:58,099 Over a third of adults aged 50 to 80 report a lack of companionship. 102 00:07:59,569 --> 00:08:05,029 And 45% of Atlanta residents report feeling lonely. 103 00:08:05,089 --> 00:08:10,199 That's about 5% higher than the US national average. 104 00:08:11,729 --> 00:08:18,659 And roughly 45% of Atlanta households are made up of just one person. 105 00:08:18,899 --> 00:08:23,069 And that's a factor that can really contribute to social isolation. 106 00:08:24,689 --> 00:08:28,679 And I'm not quoting these here as just abstract statistics and numbers. 107 00:08:28,679 --> 00:08:33,642 These reflect real people moving through real stages of life; from early 108 00:08:33,642 --> 00:08:36,432 adulthood to midlife and later life. 109 00:08:36,942 --> 00:08:41,312 And loneliness and social isolation can thread through a whole life in 110 00:08:41,312 --> 00:08:43,622 different ways at different times. 111 00:08:44,162 --> 00:08:48,092 And the health consequences are really significant too. 112 00:08:48,842 --> 00:08:54,692 So social isolation increases the risk of heart disease by 29%. 113 00:08:55,277 --> 00:09:00,677 Stroke by 32% and dementia by 50%. 114 00:09:01,337 --> 00:09:06,427 And as former US Surgeon General Vivek Murt hy has put it, loneliness 115 00:09:06,787 --> 00:09:08,917 is far more than just a bad feeling. 116 00:09:08,977 --> 00:09:12,787 It harms both individual and societal health. 117 00:09:14,317 --> 00:09:17,737 But here's the more hopeful side of all of this. 118 00:09:18,127 --> 00:09:22,717 There's a real and growing body of evidence that engagement with the arts 119 00:09:22,747 --> 00:09:28,357 is consistently linked with stronger social connection across cultures, 120 00:09:28,537 --> 00:09:31,537 across lifespan, across populations. 121 00:09:32,557 --> 00:09:39,607 So a UK survey of nearly 6,000 adults found that 82% perceive their arts 122 00:09:39,607 --> 00:09:43,807 engagement to be linked with social connection at least some of the time. 123 00:09:45,352 --> 00:09:50,152 A long-term study from Japan found that older adults who sustained 124 00:09:50,152 --> 00:09:55,882 arts engagement over three years experienced lower loneliness. 125 00:09:57,532 --> 00:10:03,262 And a major English study tracking adults over time found that frequent 126 00:10:03,262 --> 00:10:09,532 engagement with museums, galleries, and exhibitions was linked with reduced odds 127 00:10:09,532 --> 00:10:11,877 of loneliness over a 10 year period. 128 00:10:13,912 --> 00:10:20,032 So we know the scale of the problem, and we also know with real evidence 129 00:10:20,032 --> 00:10:23,782 behind it that what museums do helps. 130 00:10:24,352 --> 00:10:28,522 So the question isn't here whether museums can play a role. 131 00:10:29,002 --> 00:10:32,692 It's more like what that role should look like and what it 132 00:10:32,692 --> 00:10:35,452 actually takes to do this work well. 133 00:10:36,338 --> 00:10:41,618 On day one, we had a keynote from Vanessa German, and I have to be honest, this was 134 00:10:41,618 --> 00:10:44,828 unlike any keynote I've ever experienced. 135 00:10:45,218 --> 00:10:47,828 It was much more like an art performance. 136 00:10:47,828 --> 00:10:51,818 There was singing, there was poetry, there was real emotion in the room, 137 00:10:52,418 --> 00:10:56,138 and it set the tone beautifully for everything that followed. 138 00:10:56,978 --> 00:11:01,538 Now for those of you who don't know her work, Vanessa German is a self-taught 139 00:11:01,568 --> 00:11:07,028 artist based in Pittsburgh, and she describes herself as a citizen artist. 140 00:11:07,388 --> 00:11:11,018 She works across sculpture performance, communal ritual, 141 00:11:11,018 --> 00:11:12,728 installation, and photography. 142 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:19,159 Her work is in collections all over the US, including the High's own collection, 143 00:11:19,459 --> 00:11:22,939 and if you'd like to get a sense of what she does, look up The Three 144 00:11:22,949 --> 00:11:25,369 Headed Girl from the High's collection. 145 00:11:26,809 --> 00:11:31,309 But what really came through in her keynote was the way her work has moved 146 00:11:31,449 --> 00:11:34,249 out of the studio and into the community. 147 00:11:34,819 --> 00:11:38,509 And she talked about lots of projects, but a particular one that 148 00:11:38,509 --> 00:11:40,699 she ran in her own neighborhood. 149 00:11:41,089 --> 00:11:43,579 This is, uh, Homewood in Pittsburgh. 150 00:11:43,999 --> 00:11:46,639 Um, and this project was called The Art House. 151 00:11:46,699 --> 00:11:50,959 Now Homewood is a low income area that has been deeply affected 152 00:11:50,959 --> 00:11:53,269 by poverty and gun violence. 153 00:11:53,699 --> 00:11:59,709 The Art house was a free, open community art space where children and adults could 154 00:11:59,709 --> 00:12:04,869 come and make art together, where the door was always open and anybody could walk 155 00:12:04,869 --> 00:12:10,384 in, and it was really a place where people could sit down with each other and create. 156 00:12:10,804 --> 00:12:15,364 And it was where, as Vanessa put it, adults would lose time where they'd 157 00:12:15,364 --> 00:12:19,594 start working on something and an hour and a half later look up and 158 00:12:19,594 --> 00:12:21,934 say, I forgot what this feels like. 159 00:12:22,984 --> 00:12:29,314 So her central question at the convening was this, how can art help people see 160 00:12:29,314 --> 00:12:31,954 and care for one another more deeply? 161 00:12:32,554 --> 00:12:37,654 And she said something during her keynote that I've thought about a lot since. 162 00:12:37,744 --> 00:12:38,614 Have a listen. 163 00:12:38,674 --> 00:12:39,604 Here's Vanessa speaking. 164 00:12:42,529 --> 00:12:45,409 vanessa german: And I thought to myself, we got bars and churches on every corner, 165 00:12:45,409 --> 00:12:51,169 but we've done so much research about the benefits of art, but we don't actually 166 00:12:51,169 --> 00:12:54,079 live inside of the truth of that research. 167 00:12:54,139 --> 00:12:56,269 I was like, there could be an art house on every corner. 168 00:12:56,419 --> 00:12:57,979 Yeah, just when the doors open, you can come in. 169 00:12:58,954 --> 00:13:01,984 Claire Bown: So she talks about having an art house on every 170 00:13:01,984 --> 00:13:04,054 corner, and I love that idea. 171 00:13:04,504 --> 00:13:08,944 And what Vanessa was really getting at, I think, is that creative 172 00:13:08,944 --> 00:13:13,084 practice doesn't have to be something that's separate from daily life. 173 00:13:13,084 --> 00:13:17,794 It doesn't have to be something you go to a gallery for on a special occasion. 174 00:13:18,124 --> 00:13:21,544 It can be embedded in the neighborhood, on the street, on 175 00:13:21,544 --> 00:13:23,944 the porch, part of how we live. 176 00:13:25,414 --> 00:13:29,704 Vanessa also talked about what she called the 'violence of separateness'. 177 00:13:29,764 --> 00:13:34,294 The idea that disconnection itself is a form of harm. 178 00:13:34,594 --> 00:13:39,304 And against that, she kept saying about 'returning to wholeness'. 179 00:13:39,334 --> 00:13:40,384 'We are whole. 180 00:13:40,384 --> 00:13:45,784 The whole time' she said, 'not broken, not in need of fixing', and 181 00:13:45,784 --> 00:13:50,849 one of the first places of social connection she said is internal. 182 00:13:51,149 --> 00:13:55,229 So connecting with yourself through creative practice, before 183 00:13:55,229 --> 00:13:57,509 you can connect with anyone else. 184 00:13:58,509 --> 00:14:05,139 Now that vision: art as part of how we live, raises a really practical question. 185 00:14:05,139 --> 00:14:08,289 How do you actually do this work? 186 00:14:08,619 --> 00:14:11,859 Not in a kind of abstract sense, but on the ground with 187 00:14:11,859 --> 00:14:13,959 real people year after year. 188 00:14:14,589 --> 00:14:19,939 And one person who's been thinking about exactly that for 30 years is Anne Basting. 189 00:14:22,029 --> 00:14:27,699 Now Anne is a an artist, scholar and professor of English at the University of 190 00:14:27,699 --> 00:14:34,539 Wisconsin Milwaukee, and she's the founder and president of TimeSlips, a nonprofit 191 00:14:34,539 --> 00:14:38,439 organization she started back in 1995. 192 00:14:39,229 --> 00:14:44,439 TimeSlips began as a response to the way people living with dementia were 193 00:14:44,439 --> 00:14:49,959 being engaged, or rather weren't being engaged, in care settings. 194 00:14:50,739 --> 00:14:54,579 And Anne's insight was that you could release people from the 195 00:14:54,579 --> 00:14:59,079 pressure of remembering and replace it with the freedom to imagine. 196 00:15:00,474 --> 00:15:07,464 So TimeSlips uses creative storytelling, often built around playful images 197 00:15:07,464 --> 00:15:13,044 and open-ended questions to invite people into shared meaning making. 198 00:15:13,494 --> 00:15:20,034 And today TimeSlips has over 900 certified facilitators across 48 199 00:15:20,034 --> 00:15:24,714 US states and 20 countries working in care communities, museums, 200 00:15:24,714 --> 00:15:28,044 libraries, senior centers and homes. 201 00:15:29,724 --> 00:15:34,964 And the way that this work is facilitated has three really simple steps. 202 00:15:35,504 --> 00:15:41,784 Ask a beautiful open-ended question, improvise with 'yes, and', accepting 203 00:15:41,844 --> 00:15:46,484 whatever the person offers and building on it and then offer 204 00:15:46,484 --> 00:15:51,164 proof of listening by echoing back, acknowledging what someone has shared. 205 00:15:51,524 --> 00:15:56,144 And I think if you are a facilitator, you'll recognize the shape of that cycle. 206 00:15:56,354 --> 00:16:00,134 It's the foundation of any good group conversation. 207 00:16:01,484 --> 00:16:06,204 Now, one of the other projects Anne shared at the convening was called the Penelope 208 00:16:06,204 --> 00:16:11,874 Project, and it ran in a long-term care community in Wisconsin over two years. 209 00:16:12,234 --> 00:16:19,104 And as an aside, Anne is a great believer in long time horizons. 210 00:16:19,134 --> 00:16:24,864 She works in multi-year projects because as she puts it, that's how long 211 00:16:24,864 --> 00:16:27,654 it takes for the 'yes, and' to grow. 212 00:16:28,809 --> 00:16:33,459 And the Penelope project used, uh, homers Odyssey as a starting point. 213 00:16:33,489 --> 00:16:39,609 Staff, students, artists and residents all working together over time to create 214 00:16:39,609 --> 00:16:45,339 a full scale theatrical production performed throughout their care home 215 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:49,929 residents played roles, they wrote material, you know, they were the 216 00:16:49,929 --> 00:16:53,049 project, not the audience for it. 217 00:16:53,589 --> 00:16:58,539 And here's Anne talking about the responses to that project in her talk. 218 00:16:59,619 --> 00:17:03,189 Anne Basting: My favorite response, uh, with a woman who lived in 219 00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:07,539 the nursing home, 'did you enjoy participating in Penelope?' 220 00:17:07,959 --> 00:17:08,949 'Oh, yes. 221 00:17:08,979 --> 00:17:14,799 It's the last important thing I'll do', and it makes you realize 222 00:17:15,579 --> 00:17:19,054 what opportunities for important things are we giving people. 223 00:17:19,884 --> 00:17:21,534 Or are we just giving them bingo? 224 00:17:22,594 --> 00:17:30,589 How can we mobilize the social capital and legacy potential of 225 00:17:30,589 --> 00:17:35,539 all of the systems that we work in to create something meaningful for 226 00:17:35,539 --> 00:17:37,319 people to do, with their lives? 227 00:17:38,084 --> 00:17:41,534 Claire Bown: Anne also shared what she called her gleanings from 228 00:17:41,534 --> 00:17:46,034 this work, the principles that have shaped how she approaches it. 229 00:17:46,124 --> 00:17:50,634 And I think these are really useful things to remember for us as we 230 00:17:50,634 --> 00:17:55,614 think about what this work could look like at its best in museums. 231 00:17:56,454 --> 00:18:02,079 So firstly, she said, be unified by a slightly impossible goal, 232 00:18:02,379 --> 00:18:07,149 something that no single organization can accomplish on its own. 233 00:18:07,239 --> 00:18:12,699 Something that demands collaboration, that demands you, bring others in. 234 00:18:14,109 --> 00:18:17,949 Secondly, she said, we need to hold uncertainty. 235 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:23,259 So start a project without knowing exactly what it's gonna be and let 236 00:18:23,259 --> 00:18:25,214 it become what it needs to become. 237 00:18:27,804 --> 00:18:32,604 Next was to create ongoing entry points because the people you're 238 00:18:32,604 --> 00:18:36,624 working with may not be ready to join right at the beginning. 239 00:18:36,834 --> 00:18:39,564 And trust takes time to build. 240 00:18:41,274 --> 00:18:46,854 And the fourth is to recognize and build on existing strengths. 241 00:18:47,274 --> 00:18:51,894 So to look at the people and the assets that are already in the room, 242 00:18:52,194 --> 00:18:54,804 rather than starting from a deficit. 243 00:18:55,524 --> 00:18:58,584 So those four things I think are really useful. 244 00:18:59,598 --> 00:19:04,938 So moving on from this, what does this work actually look like in practice? 245 00:19:05,418 --> 00:19:09,228 So, across the convening, I heard about a lot of programs from 246 00:19:09,228 --> 00:19:14,148 museums and arts organizations who were responding to loneliness and 247 00:19:14,148 --> 00:19:16,518 social isolation in different ways. 248 00:19:16,578 --> 00:19:19,998 And here are a few that stayed with me. 249 00:19:20,719 --> 00:19:23,389 So the first is Meet Me at MoMA. 250 00:19:23,749 --> 00:19:25,459 You may have heard of it before. 251 00:19:25,819 --> 00:19:30,409 It's a program for people living with Alzheimer's disease and their caregivers. 252 00:19:30,409 --> 00:19:37,579 It was launched in 2006 and it's just celebrated its 20th anniversary and 253 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:40,429 it's reach has been remarkable between. 254 00:19:40,489 --> 00:19:47,989 2007, 2014 through the wider MoMA Alzheimer's project, moMA staff reached 255 00:19:47,989 --> 00:19:54,619 over 10,500 colleagues around the world through training, workshops, conference 256 00:19:54,619 --> 00:20:00,649 presentations, and resources for museums, wanting to develop their own programs. 257 00:20:01,309 --> 00:20:03,499 And they evaluated it in 2008. 258 00:20:03,819 --> 00:20:08,739 And they found statistically significant improvements in mood for both people 259 00:20:08,739 --> 00:20:11,709 with Alzheimer's and their care partners. 260 00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:17,229 So 20 years on, that's the kind of longtime horizon Anne 261 00:20:17,469 --> 00:20:18,619 Basting was talking about. 262 00:20:19,864 --> 00:20:22,804 And what Lara Schweller shared at the convening was where 263 00:20:22,804 --> 00:20:24,454 the program is going next. 264 00:20:24,454 --> 00:20:27,834 And they're designing a newer strand designed specifically 265 00:20:27,924 --> 00:20:29,574 for caregivers themselves. 266 00:20:31,539 --> 00:20:36,399 The second program is Oasis at the High Museum of Art. 267 00:20:36,819 --> 00:20:41,709 It's a monthly program and it weaves together art, spirituality, 268 00:20:41,739 --> 00:20:44,079 conversation, and mindfulness. 269 00:20:44,139 --> 00:20:46,239 And I was very lucky. 270 00:20:46,299 --> 00:20:48,459 I got to experience it for myself. 271 00:20:48,459 --> 00:20:50,979 It was on the day after the convening. 272 00:20:51,429 --> 00:20:57,414 Um, I saw yoga in the atrium, I took part in sound baths in the galleries 273 00:20:57,414 --> 00:21:02,694 there was mindful art making and there was also a wonderful strand called 274 00:21:02,694 --> 00:21:08,154 'Seeing with Spirit', which is a one hour conversation with a single artwork. 275 00:21:08,724 --> 00:21:13,464 And you look at it through the lens of someone's spiritual practice. 276 00:21:13,524 --> 00:21:16,794 So each month they invite a different person, whether that's, you know, a 277 00:21:16,794 --> 00:21:22,644 Baptist preacher or a Buddhist teacher, and that person walks through the museum 278 00:21:23,004 --> 00:21:28,314 chooses of work of art, and then they create and build a conversation around it. 279 00:21:30,639 --> 00:21:32,709 And on that day I experienced Oasis. 280 00:21:32,709 --> 00:21:35,019 The museum was just buzzing. 281 00:21:35,019 --> 00:21:40,689 It was full of people all ages, engaging with the galleries, with the art, and 282 00:21:40,689 --> 00:21:43,209 with each other in so many different ways. 283 00:21:43,209 --> 00:21:44,979 And it was so good to see. 284 00:21:45,339 --> 00:21:50,919 And I think this is what a museum can be when social connection is built 285 00:21:50,979 --> 00:21:53,439 into the way it opens its doors. 286 00:21:56,049 --> 00:22:01,299 The third program is Art After Loss, which is also at the High. 287 00:22:01,779 --> 00:22:05,859 And this is a four week program for people who have experienced bereavement. 288 00:22:05,859 --> 00:22:10,179 It's run by specially trained facilitators, museum educators, 289 00:22:10,209 --> 00:22:15,099 not grief counselors, and they are using art as a way to gather around 290 00:22:15,099 --> 00:22:18,489 something that isn't the grief itself. 291 00:22:19,025 --> 00:22:22,385 Now I'll come back to Art After Loss because there's some really 292 00:22:22,655 --> 00:22:24,935 interesting evaluation evidence for it. 293 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:32,650 And the fourth one was Writing as Seeing at the Louisiana State 294 00:22:32,650 --> 00:22:35,800 University Museum of Art in Baton Rouge. 295 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:41,880 And Callie Smith talked about a series of poetry workshops designed 296 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,240 and led in three different settings. 297 00:22:45,390 --> 00:22:48,060 One was a bereavement camp for teens. 298 00:22:48,540 --> 00:22:52,770 One was a men's prison and one was a professional development 299 00:22:52,770 --> 00:22:54,750 day for school art teachers. 300 00:22:55,380 --> 00:23:00,000 And I think what Cali showed was that impactful art experiences 301 00:23:00,150 --> 00:23:02,520 really don't need to be elaborate. 302 00:23:03,030 --> 00:23:08,130 Sometimes it's just printer paper and a few colored pencils, and a 303 00:23:08,130 --> 00:23:13,560 willingness to sit with people in places where art doesn't usually go. 304 00:23:15,330 --> 00:23:20,220 So four programs, four very different shapes, and that's really only a 305 00:23:20,220 --> 00:23:21,960 small slice of what's out there. 306 00:23:22,410 --> 00:23:26,310 And it brings me to our next question, which is how do we 307 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:28,980 actually know this work is working? 308 00:23:33,765 --> 00:23:37,245 So let's return to the Art After Loss program. 309 00:23:37,815 --> 00:23:42,225 So the High recently commissioned a formal evaluation of this program. 310 00:23:42,225 --> 00:23:46,815 It was carried out by the Georgia Health Policy Center at Georgia State 311 00:23:46,815 --> 00:23:53,325 University, and they use a validated research tool to measure changes in 312 00:23:53,325 --> 00:23:55,395 participant's sense of connection. 313 00:23:55,635 --> 00:23:59,835 And that means connection to themselves, to others, and to the world. 314 00:23:59,925 --> 00:24:03,525 And they measured it before and after the program. 315 00:24:04,155 --> 00:24:07,785 And they combined that with qualitative interviews. 316 00:24:07,785 --> 00:24:11,025 So they had both the numbers and the stories behind them. 317 00:24:13,005 --> 00:24:15,675 And what the evaluation found was significant. 318 00:24:15,675 --> 00:24:21,075 So participants reported meaningful increases in their sense of connectedness 319 00:24:21,075 --> 00:24:23,355 across all three dimensions. 320 00:24:23,925 --> 00:24:27,765 And one of the insights that came in through the qualitative findings 321 00:24:28,125 --> 00:24:33,195 was that what brought participants together wasn't the grief itself. 322 00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:34,665 It was the art. 323 00:24:35,490 --> 00:24:39,780 It was looking closely at artworks together, with a skilled 324 00:24:39,780 --> 00:24:44,940 facilitator, gave them something to focus on that wasn't their loss. 325 00:24:45,420 --> 00:24:48,990 And paradoxically created the conditions for the most 326 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,720 meaningful connections to happen. 327 00:24:52,530 --> 00:24:57,150 And in addition, under a new head of research, that's Julia Forbes, 328 00:24:57,150 --> 00:25:02,220 the High are building research into the fabric of the organization. 329 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,240 And during one of the breakout sessions, I heard about a major 330 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,260 project measuring visitor wellbeing across three different programs. 331 00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:16,200 So they're measuring, Oasis, which we've just talked about, their free entry Access 332 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,750 for All Days for older adults and their UPS Second Sunday, which is for families. 333 00:25:22,770 --> 00:25:27,970 And this research is using a framework built on John Falk's categories of museum 334 00:25:27,970 --> 00:25:34,420 value, that's physical, intellectual, social, and emotional wellbeing. 335 00:25:34,690 --> 00:25:38,740 And they added a fifth category of spiritual wellbeing. 336 00:25:39,405 --> 00:25:44,205 So they're using Garmin watches to measure physical wellbeing during visits. 337 00:25:44,565 --> 00:25:49,005 They're doing surveys and interviews for the social and emotional dimensions. 338 00:25:49,485 --> 00:25:53,535 And for spiritual wellbeing they're using participatory photography, 339 00:25:53,535 --> 00:25:58,485 inviting visitors to photograph moments of awe in the galleries. 340 00:25:58,845 --> 00:26:02,415 And the findings excitingly will be published in a peer 341 00:26:02,415 --> 00:26:06,075 review journal in May 20 26. 342 00:26:07,545 --> 00:26:13,905 And what this means is the High isn't just doing the work, it's actually generating 343 00:26:13,905 --> 00:26:16,725 knowledge that other museums can use. 344 00:26:17,355 --> 00:26:19,335 And this really matters. 345 00:26:19,725 --> 00:26:24,885 Because I think one of the hardest things about this kind of work, it's that so much 346 00:26:24,885 --> 00:26:28,065 of it happens in silos or under the radar. 347 00:26:28,545 --> 00:26:33,615 Organizations develop programs, they run them well, they get good feedback 348 00:26:33,615 --> 00:26:38,445 from participants, and then the learning stays inside the building. 349 00:26:39,165 --> 00:26:43,035 But this work opens the conversation up. 350 00:26:43,980 --> 00:26:47,130 And I think this matters enormously. 351 00:26:47,130 --> 00:26:52,600 I think one of the hardest questions facing museums doing this work is how 352 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,120 to make the case for it to funders, to policy makers, to the health sector. 353 00:26:58,570 --> 00:27:01,330 And without evidence, it's just a story. 354 00:27:01,650 --> 00:27:06,283 With evidence, it's a contribution to a much bigger conversation. 355 00:27:07,288 --> 00:27:12,988 So let's come back to the three questions I carried with me to this convening. 356 00:27:13,648 --> 00:27:16,288 What does it actually take to do this work well? 357 00:27:16,738 --> 00:27:20,728 How do we build the evidence that it works and how do we get the 358 00:27:20,728 --> 00:27:22,918 wider world to hear about it? 359 00:27:24,823 --> 00:27:27,223 So here's what I've come to think. 360 00:27:27,553 --> 00:27:30,583 Those three questions aren't separate questions. 361 00:27:30,583 --> 00:27:34,903 They're all really kind of pointing at the same thing, and that's not 362 00:27:34,903 --> 00:27:39,043 a program or a project or you know, some kind of commitment on paper. 363 00:27:39,373 --> 00:27:40,303 It's culture. 364 00:27:42,043 --> 00:27:47,623 So the museums that are doing this work best have built a culture around it. 365 00:27:47,773 --> 00:27:52,933 A culture where social connection and wellbeing aren't side projects that 366 00:27:52,963 --> 00:27:58,543 the learning team runs when there's funding, they're really part of how the 367 00:27:58,543 --> 00:28:02,263 organization understands its own purpose. 368 00:28:02,923 --> 00:28:07,933 So this is a culture where the director speaks about this work in the same breath 369 00:28:07,963 --> 00:28:14,713 as exhibitions and collections, a culture where research and evaluation are built in 370 00:28:14,833 --> 00:28:17,743 from the start, not bolted on at the end. 371 00:28:18,403 --> 00:28:21,163 And it's a culture where programs are allowed to run 372 00:28:21,163 --> 00:28:23,863 for years, not just seasons. 373 00:28:24,733 --> 00:28:31,738 And finally, it's a culture where staff, docents facilitators and visitors all 374 00:28:31,738 --> 00:28:35,013 feel that this is what the museum is for. 375 00:28:36,148 --> 00:28:39,328 And I don't think you can fake a culture like that, and 376 00:28:39,328 --> 00:28:41,248 you definitely can't rush it. 377 00:28:41,938 --> 00:28:47,098 At the High it's taken roughly a decade of consistent patient 378 00:28:47,308 --> 00:28:51,658 building, and that's a really honest timeframe for this kind of work. 379 00:28:51,658 --> 00:28:56,518 And it's worth spelling out because it really sets realistic expectations for 380 00:28:56,548 --> 00:28:59,068 anyone wanting to do something similar. 381 00:29:00,838 --> 00:29:02,818 And of course none of this is simple. 382 00:29:03,088 --> 00:29:07,288 Cultures don't change overnight and they don't change because just one 383 00:29:07,288 --> 00:29:10,168 person or one team wants them to. 384 00:29:10,858 --> 00:29:14,968 But there are questions here worth sitting with wherever 385 00:29:14,968 --> 00:29:17,068 you are in your organization. 386 00:29:18,613 --> 00:29:19,933 So think about this. 387 00:29:19,933 --> 00:29:27,223 Is this work visible in your institution's values, strategy, and language, or does 388 00:29:27,223 --> 00:29:30,613 it mostly live inside one department? 389 00:29:31,813 --> 00:29:34,153 How widely is it talked about? 390 00:29:34,633 --> 00:29:35,803 And by whom? 391 00:29:37,843 --> 00:29:42,943 Are the programs you run funded as short term projects, or are 392 00:29:42,943 --> 00:29:46,063 they built as ongoing commitments? 393 00:29:47,263 --> 00:29:51,223 And are you building evaluation in from the start? 394 00:29:53,893 --> 00:29:58,903 And when you talk about this work with people outside the museum, with funders, 395 00:29:58,903 --> 00:30:04,303 with health partners, with policy makers, what do you have to show them? 396 00:30:07,078 --> 00:30:11,608 And I think if you're wanting to start building that culture in your own context, 397 00:30:11,818 --> 00:30:18,178 here are a few simple things worth holding onto from what I heard at this convening. 398 00:30:19,258 --> 00:30:23,938 So number one, work in longer time horizons. 399 00:30:24,358 --> 00:30:29,638 So real relationships take real time and trust builds slowly. 400 00:30:31,573 --> 00:30:34,273 Secondly, keep the bar high. 401 00:30:34,993 --> 00:30:39,463 Keep asking whether what you are offering really matters to the 402 00:30:39,463 --> 00:30:41,233 people you are offering it to. 403 00:30:43,183 --> 00:30:49,993 Number three, find partners outside the museum, academics, health professionals, 404 00:30:49,993 --> 00:30:54,368 community organizations, because doing this work alone is harder 405 00:30:54,588 --> 00:30:56,648 and lonelier than it needs to be. 406 00:30:58,663 --> 00:31:03,433 And finally document and share what you are learning so it doesn't 407 00:31:03,433 --> 00:31:06,673 just stay inside your organization. 408 00:31:07,063 --> 00:31:11,533 Because one of the ways this whole field moves forward, is when we 409 00:31:11,533 --> 00:31:13,423 share what we know with each other. 410 00:31:15,763 --> 00:31:20,893 So before I wrap up, I just want to say a huge thank you to Laurel 411 00:31:20,893 --> 00:31:25,843 Humble, to Andrew Westover and to the entire learning team at the High for 412 00:31:25,843 --> 00:31:28,453 putting on such a wonderful two days. 413 00:31:28,843 --> 00:31:31,993 This convening really practiced what it preached. 414 00:31:32,713 --> 00:31:36,583 Social connection was built into the design of the two days. 415 00:31:36,613 --> 00:31:40,783 You know, there were icebreaker questions on the tables in the breakout areas. 416 00:31:41,203 --> 00:31:43,963 There were reflective prompts at the end of each day. 417 00:31:43,982 --> 00:31:46,202 And the pacing was generous. 418 00:31:46,382 --> 00:31:49,112 Plenty of breaks to actually talk to people. 419 00:31:49,592 --> 00:31:51,842 And boy did I talk to a lot of people. 420 00:31:52,352 --> 00:31:55,862 It all sounds like small things, but it really matters. 421 00:31:55,862 --> 00:32:00,962 You can't talk about social connection, without enabling it in the room. 422 00:32:01,862 --> 00:32:05,882 And I really hope that this is the start of something, a community, a 423 00:32:05,882 --> 00:32:08,732 movement, or an annual gathering. 424 00:32:10,367 --> 00:32:13,247 So I want to leave you with two prompts that Laurel shared 425 00:32:13,247 --> 00:32:14,477 at the end of the convening. 426 00:32:14,477 --> 00:32:18,437 I think they're really useful, especially if you've listened to all 427 00:32:18,437 --> 00:32:21,797 of this and you're wondering where to begin, whether you're starting 428 00:32:21,797 --> 00:32:25,727 this work in your organization, or whether you're trying to deepen what 429 00:32:25,727 --> 00:32:30,527 you're already doing or thinking about how to make it more sustainable. 430 00:32:31,547 --> 00:32:33,167 The first question is this. 431 00:32:34,817 --> 00:32:38,897 'For me, social connection looks like...' 432 00:32:43,197 --> 00:32:44,757 And the second is this. 433 00:32:46,167 --> 00:32:48,987 'One thing I can do next is...' 434 00:32:50,387 --> 00:32:52,007 so sit with those for a moment. 435 00:32:52,007 --> 00:32:55,457 You might even want to write down some thoughts. 436 00:32:56,147 --> 00:32:58,817 So one last thing before I sign off. 437 00:32:58,927 --> 00:33:00,607 Don't miss the next episode. 438 00:33:00,877 --> 00:33:05,287 There's an announcement coming and that's all I can say about that for now. 439 00:33:06,292 --> 00:33:09,682 So thank you so much for listening to this special episode, 440 00:33:10,192 --> 00:33:11,782 and I'll see you next time. 441 00:33:12,292 --> 00:33:12,622 Bye. 442 00:33:17,452 --> 00:33:20,122 Thank you for listening to The Art Engager podcast. 443 00:33:20,182 --> 00:33:21,172 With me, Claire Bown. 444 00:33:22,792 --> 00:33:26,242 You can find more art engagement resources by visiting my website. 445 00:33:26,817 --> 00:33:31,617 Thinking museum.com, and you can also find me on Instagram at Thinking 446 00:33:31,617 --> 00:33:35,937 Museum, where I regularly share tips and tools on how to bring art 447 00:33:35,967 --> 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