you had still asked

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um regarding my digital nomad tower

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um also that so the it as I find

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offers something like this very well

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so if you work in it

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you can usually do a lot of things digitally

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and freedom as

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yes self-determination

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let me put it this way

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I just also have these two values uh

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internalized with me and the

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in the it you can just solve it quite well

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without having to pay a lot for it

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must fight

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for this position or for such contract uh

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I say now so

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i am uh brunnes lava

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I am specially commissioned in data protection

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independent for two and a half years and live

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in different countries as digital nomads

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um currently i am back on malta

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and soon I will try to escape winter again

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and what do i like to do in my free time

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travel

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and discover many new uh new hobbies so

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uh skiing

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swimming and other sports activities

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this is exciting

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so you are not only looking for summer

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but sometimes also snow

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so exceptionally

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yes I like it when you plan it

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when I plan to have the snow

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when you just feel like winter and snow yes

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yes but it is also mega

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being on the beach at thirty degrees

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and celebrate christmas so

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this is super

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there you have really ne super great

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combination selected

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I think when I

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me right in sense

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have you also chosen it professionally quasi

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yes you are um

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yes not immediately landed where you are now professionally

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but that has resulted

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how did it turn out how did it work out i think um

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that was a bit different at the beginning

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um and then you are kind of like um

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privately towards the sun

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to what you like more

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how did this turn out

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how was your way so rough

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to what you are currently doing

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oh dear roughly ha ha um

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so i'll give the milestones a try just briefly

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to cut

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so i studied business law at the beginning

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um where my

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my family supported me there

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that and required

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that I also uh

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jura study in germany

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I have then just also subsequently at least

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accurate and during

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the wirtschaftsrechtstudiums I already have

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in different

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offices worked and noticed

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somehow that is just so funny um

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somehow so strict and too serious and too professional

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somehow

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and the topics were not quite exciting now either

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so I was then in the

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uh right-wing departments in companies that were

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that was then also much more exciting

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and through the

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um stations in professional life

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uh through different industries and

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yes interests I am then also come to complaints

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in the meantime

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I also have quite a few

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male friends

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working in it

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and they have always given me quite a lot

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well um quite as you see

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what all happens there

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and how cool this area actually is

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and I once swore to myself

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that I um

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then will do something with right in the it

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and in the end it turned out that way

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i am doing something right in it

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um

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and complaints is already something legal

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and that was also um in a

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yes a goal-heavy company

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and then I'm just in the

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independence gone

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and have tried

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to find my way somewhere like this

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as extra datenschutzbeauftragte

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which somehow

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something legal power

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something technical and also organizational

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and with anything

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what makes me just fun and that was then just already so

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all its last companies

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yes then I just kind of got there

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so tried me quite a lot

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this is super

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try out is super um

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others have already told me

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just give it a try

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in nowadays

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you no longer have to look at twenty

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or decide in your mid-twenties and then

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um forty years working until retirement

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and uh pull through

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but in any case also change the um career path

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um if I have understood correctly

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have me then quasi itler who already work in it

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inspired

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and um or were there special role models mentors

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who then accompanied you on the way and

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did they exist by chance

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who have just shown up for work

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have appeared privately

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or did you get the selected quotation marks

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how did the

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i actually only had male friends

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the in the it

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have worked and told me felt daily

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how cool is this

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and what they do there

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and how much free space they have there

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and they can switch back and forth just like that and um

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between positions between companies and

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somehow also very much entscheidungsspielraum

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so also many

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values that I have just also internalized

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uh were also addressed there

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um that's why it was somehow my circle of friends

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um my role model

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where none

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so far the way has gone uh

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in front of me so the one I know now

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uh the now jura

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has brought in the in the it

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also ich war in

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on the road in various law firms

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um but it was never

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someone there who could also really accompany me

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who could clear the way for me

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i had only one forward and sponsor

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namely my father

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who said make

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study law be a lawyer

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but that was too classic for me

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and somehow I then just really told myself

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so I then just try

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to be a lawyer in it

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um and let's see how that just works I mean

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that was already

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how long has it been

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yes it has been almost ten years now

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so times have changed

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yes also already changed

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uh at that time I just did not see so many possibilities

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uh jura to participate in the it

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today there's just really different

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so what different possibilities way

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um positions and so on

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and there I have uh

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i am then actually via a job advertisement

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come across a company

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so mentomy promotes a ngo that promotes women

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and there I signed up as a mentee

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and am now in my fourth year

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and there uh

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will you be made with a mentor or mentor um

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around you privately

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to develop professionally in a personal way

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and there I became very good

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and needs-based

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actually first need oriented um

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yes supported in the area

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and am then just also times continued

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mentoring I have developed extremely and only

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so slowly my positioning

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my position in this it landscape

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yes I would also recommend to everyone

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um so to get such a human ring

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because they are then simply different people

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that you also really um

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suitable for you uh promote you

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cool

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um i have also been in it for a while

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what I noticed before

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twentyteen years ago

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war it e commerce

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so on the internet partly lawless space

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it helped you that

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that there were more rules every few years more psyche

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dsgvo came uh twenty twenty nineteen

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now quite a few um its security

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guideline and psyche

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this helped you

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um or was that random or would you have that anyway

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so chosen or has everything resulted with you

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you had interest and

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um

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coincidence has fate

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played into your cards

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because there are more and more complaints

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more and more regulations more and more psyche

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ne that was all coincidence

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so i have her complains was never my topic

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I only wanted to jura

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so as said jura

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do something with jura in the it that was

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i thought i would then become a lawyer in

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im bereich it

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right but that is totally classic what me

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what I just don't care about what I don't want to do

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and with complaints I had nothing really on my hat

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but until i got a job ad that was cool

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um seen have simply applied for it

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the uh my manager was then just um

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exactly what i needed as a person

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um who also challenged and encouraged me there

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um

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but in the area complaints

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but I just wanted to go further

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that's why I went to the

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independence gone

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and have actually

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uh almost the same made

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uh as in the employee relationship so was

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before uh

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complaints managerin und data protection manager

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and after that uh

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I have the training

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and further training for the

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external datenschutzbeauftragten

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and informationssicherheitsbeauftragten and

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hinwasgeberschutz and all kinds of

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so made so yes totally technical

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um

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and have me to go there

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evolved and eventually noticed

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yes that is but a cool business and um

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complaints in general

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increasingly relevant for companies but also for

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the private person

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and have there just like that my

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found my so and it was I have it too

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I have also taken complains much more personally and

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could also start with it a bit more than before

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and

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this is how i actually got around to it

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so that was really relatively

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random

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I find it very exciting um I also always stupid

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that also many lateral entrants

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dare to join the idt

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to go because the field is so far um

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I find great um

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the idler itself

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they often torture themselves with complaining topics

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um somehow necessary evil

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and if it's just more

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guidelines there are laws that must be followed

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it becomes more and more of so many itler

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computer scientists um and computer scientists

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they then only see the work

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and

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that's why I find super

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that you go in there fully motivated and quite um

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quite intentionally also into the it

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go

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um we can use itler in any case very much

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thank you for

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that you went in there um

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your work now as an independent

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um

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almost every itler could become independent

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so it's always pretty good um

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to have great role models

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like you now

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um also in this n

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may you then tell me again

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what you are there um

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offered when you started

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what you offer now

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um

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that the listeners

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and listener can imagine it better

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what you are doing and whether that might also be something

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even if you are not now um

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softwareentwicklerin software developer is

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but something completely different

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so as a career changer in the it

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has landed and still the possibility

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um has found to become independent

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and I find it quite great

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i think the listener and listener too uh

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digital normative

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um

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one also knows otherwise rather from

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computer scientists or graphic designers or copyrights

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um so times quite exciting that someone

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the right also offers this can from anywhere

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maybe read documents

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contracts um pays attention to complaints

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mhm

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yes i um these are very good questions

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I would first briefly uh go into it

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what you said before

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um namely

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I have simply in the last few years more and more

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understood where my strengths and weaknesses are and where

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what skills I bring

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and how my personality is and

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how I would like to work and so on

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and that's why I just also

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Much developed to this end

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and to your questions so as I said I am with

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because I thought

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I will now simply offer this quite classic

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what my former employer

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was offered

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so my former

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employer also had a

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external datenschutzbeauftragten

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I thought it was cool

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but was not allowed to develop there

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so I thought well then I quit

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then I just do

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my own datenschutzbeauftragten

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yes um

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and this classic

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i took this classic role at the beginning

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so really um

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you can imagine this as a consultant

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or like an auditor

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uh or like a trainer the um

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and uh goes into the companies and looks

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uh how are the companies

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in the area of data protection

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informationssicherheit and so on built

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which gels so what gaps are there

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what must be closed how important

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relevant is the um

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what are the risks and all this um

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legally technical and organizationally cover

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but also complain with the regular in uh

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domestically but also within the eu

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and that has me just at the beginning already

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relatively much fun

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I have

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I was also very smart at the beginning fortunately and have

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retainer contracts made

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so that is

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my customers for the next two to four years

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also directly uh bound

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um

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but then I noticed over the years

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so in the last two and a half years

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that I am simply not made for this

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I am not uh made for it

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to work in the operational area

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I totally like it

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um it is not me but

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I have no desire

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check documents

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sitting in laptop for eight hours today

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and auftragsverarbeitungsvertr to check

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although in the meantime there are also a few tours

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but even I just have no desire to do that

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or I have no desire um

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ja

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always regular uh

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to answer the same questions

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and I just also noticed

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i am a problem solver

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i am a product designer

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as my mentor also said this week um

402

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I rather need the creative

403

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I would like to solve problems

404

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I want to automate many things

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i would like the

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uh I do not want complaints so

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make long breathable and so on and

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on it

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um

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that's how I am right now

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that is I am looking for so very soon

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um officially a co founder

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who also tackles the whole thing with me and the one with me

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so the my uh weaknesses balances around

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then actually be much more productive

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much more

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um also complains in the company um

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that also promotes uh growth that promotes sales

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and simply uh the complete

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just turn the complex world around and say

421

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that's just mega when you um

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takes care of such topics

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and that also brings you a lot

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and yes and the and so on just times

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make something easier

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establish processes and so on

427

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so yes there I am now so anchored

428

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very exciting uh

429

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you heard it uh and i lava search co founder

430

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so feel free to contact um at where I live lava directly uh

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at linkedin i

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I will link it or contact me

433

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then I'll forward it um

434

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very great news i

435

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I am very curious to see how he reports there

436

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yes me too

437

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ha ha ha very good and pleased um exactly

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you had still asked

439

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um you had still asked

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um regarding my digital nomadism um also the

441

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so the it I find

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offers something like this very well so

443

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if you work in it

444

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you can usually do a lot of things digitally

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and freedom as

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yes self-determination

447

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I want it times

448

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so say these two values I have just also uh

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internalized with me and the

450

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in the it you can just do that

451

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solve quite well without having to solve very much

452

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must fight for this position

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or for such contract uh

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I say now so

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das find ich find ich super

456

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that you determined there all by yourself

457

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you have chosen this your n

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and then even um your place of work

459

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um

460

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so for the listeners

461

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i ask every time i talk to brunislava uh

462

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where she is right now

463

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um she comes around very much um

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i think second home is malta

465

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malta i hear quite often but also other countries

466

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where have you been everywhere

467

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and what is so your plan for the winter

468

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ja

469

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where have I been so much in

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europe in the southern countries of course

471

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so because I am especially in winter

472

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i just don't like this depressive

473

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winter to have like in germany

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um

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exactly otherwise in thailand um indonesia

476

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in the emirates canada

477

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america so um usa i mean

478

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uh exactly

479

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and quite a lot I am in further

480

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because my company is also registered here

481

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so i emigrated also two and a half years ago

482

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das war

483

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the reason why i also became independent

484

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and since then my company is also in further

485

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reported uh why that just so

486

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the place is where i come back regularly

487

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what my plan is for winter actually

488

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i actually had other plans to be honest

489

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I actually had the plan

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in the balkans uh to stay this year

491

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uh about winter

492

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um

493

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however, my visa has expired

494

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I didn't quite notice that now

495

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that means I have to spend three months then

496

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now spend somewhere else

497

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and it can be anything

498

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so i am now open to even finland

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denmark um so far or ireland

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uh far north uh hopefully with a little more snow

501

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or completely in the south so it's just also really

502

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maybe fifteen degrees twenty degrees are so

503

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that would also be quite cool so just now I am still

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um

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yes to choose the countries

506

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the real uh n crass luxury problem I find

507

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I find very exciting I am curious

508

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whether you then um

509

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but you are on the beach at christmas or

510

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with with two meters of snow somewhere

511

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somewhere in finland

512

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maybe even with christmas somewhere in the in

513

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in finland um exciting

514

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very cool very cool

515

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um i heard out

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you have changed direction a few times

517

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and have now landed like this

518

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professional as well as um

519

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private where you like it very much

520

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so in retrospect um

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your reflection what would you do differently

522

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what more would you do

523

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so in review of your career path so far

524

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um maybe so also as tips for listening

525

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I think um

526

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I would do nothing else now

527

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on my way

528

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uh because then I think it would be called

529

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I would regret something

530

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and i don't want that for my life

531

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and I am fine with the way

532

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however, I believe that it is very important

533

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children women

534

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to promote and challenge girls very early on

535

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um that

536

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is needs and needs oriented

537

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so when girls and women

538

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uh have certain strengths

539

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have certain skills and so on um

540

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and the somehow apparently

541

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apparently quasi not fit into the it is called

542

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yes it is just the picture of society

543

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I would say

544

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but you can really do a lot in the at

545

00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,733

um you can really let off steam a lot there

546

00:24:13,933 --> 00:24:16,700

even if you have studied mathematics even if you have

547

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marketingmaster

548

00:24:18,566 --> 00:24:20,933

even if you are interested in product design

549

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even if you um anything else

550

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so you can um yourself

551

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also mir

552

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I can't think of so many examples right now

553

00:24:32,733 --> 00:24:33,733

but um

554

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I found it very apt

555

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when my mentor told me this week

556

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yes actually you sound like this

557

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like you would like to be a product designer

558

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and that is then just also so

559

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then i am just one in it

560

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and then it is just also my strengths

561

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which I can use very well and from which other

562

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benefit therefore my advice uh I see

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to get support very early

564

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for example also from mentoni um

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the one geot i have already mentioned

566

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women are supported quite well

567

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also not only with mentoring

568

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but also with different um

569

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require and there will also be very many

570

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Experts presented every month

571

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da gibt's workshop

572

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there's really a lot there

573

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where you can develop

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and

575

00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,766

and gain a lot of practice

576

00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:29,066

I would now also say again

577

00:25:29,266 --> 00:25:30,866

because I am often in

578

00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,866

rechtsanwaltskanzlei have worked

579

00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:35,533

but then in legal departments

580

00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,100

and then even times

581

00:25:37,666 --> 00:25:38,933

had nothing to do with right

582

00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,733

but have worked in the service once

583

00:25:41,566 --> 00:25:44,100

and then worked on legal issues after all

584

00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:45,100

somehow so

585

00:25:45,866 --> 00:25:48,400

and try quite a lot and see what the lies

586

00:25:48,466 --> 00:25:49,366

what the not lies

587

00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,966

look for managers

588

00:25:52,466 --> 00:25:53,266

which also

589

00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:55,966

promote and challenge you and that just also yourself

590

00:25:56,133 --> 00:25:57,466

claim for yourself

591

00:25:57,500 --> 00:25:59,666

also stand up for further development themselves

592

00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,000

ja

593

00:26:03,866 --> 00:26:06,933

exactly i think that's it for now so so

594

00:26:07,866 --> 00:26:11,266

roughly that I find I find super um

595

00:26:12,866 --> 00:26:15,366

pulls through everything you said today

596

00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,866

search um mentor search select executives

597

00:26:20,266 --> 00:26:22,000

I find very exciting um

598

00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,133

exactly his career you have to craft somehow

599

00:26:26,466 --> 00:26:27,866

and also the mentors

600

00:26:27,966 --> 00:26:29,300

there are certainly also mentors sometimes

601

00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,600

who happen to show up when someone uh you quasi

602

00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:34,733

discovered

603

00:26:34,733 --> 00:26:37,600

somewhere at work or whatever and then

604

00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:39,700

wants to take on this role

605

00:26:39,966 --> 00:26:41,766

but you have to be very lucky

606

00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,466

so i find your approach great and

607

00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:47,066

um mentomy for example offers it yes

608

00:26:47,733 --> 00:26:49,166

that you go and say

609

00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:51,166

I currently have the challenge

610

00:26:51,766 --> 00:26:53,266

I imagine um

611

00:26:53,466 --> 00:26:55,700

need the mentor

612

00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:56,766

is there someone

613

00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,366

and I also find um with the managers

614

00:27:01,366 --> 00:27:03,866

exciting view and um

615

00:27:04,466 --> 00:27:05,766

and choose this

616

00:27:06,066 --> 00:27:07,900

do you mean you can find out in the interview

617

00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,766

if you are not yet in the company

618

00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,100

or do you mean it goes rather

619

00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,133

if it n largest corporate um

620

00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:16,200

company is where you can practically observe them

621

00:27:16,266 --> 00:27:19,100

because you can see them somewhere in department x

622

00:27:19,466 --> 00:27:20,366

like the um

623

00:27:22,066 --> 00:27:23,000

how they lead

624

00:27:23,366 --> 00:27:26,533

or you may know employees among them

625

00:27:26,533 --> 00:27:29,133

or what exactly do you mean by choose managers

626

00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:36,533

um i mean my last manager for example

627

00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,700

um i asked them in the interview

628

00:27:41,133 --> 00:27:41,933

so I have

629

00:27:42,666 --> 00:27:44,466

I asked her two three questions

630

00:27:44,566 --> 00:27:45,866

so quite smart questions

631

00:27:46,133 --> 00:27:49,366

which simply makes the manager completely out of

632

00:27:49,966 --> 00:27:52,533

have taken out of the comfort zone

633

00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,133

because they are really unique questions

634

00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,800

the applicants otherwise not

635

00:27:57,066 --> 00:27:57,866

Do not put

636

00:27:57,933 --> 00:27:59,166

I no longer know the questions

637

00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,600

from the head um

638

00:28:02,866 --> 00:28:05,966

but then I noticed with the answers

639

00:28:06,866 --> 00:28:07,666

knows

640

00:28:08,133 --> 00:28:10,500

how much empathy they have for example

641

00:28:11,366 --> 00:28:14,666

how much um what are important to them which

642

00:28:14,866 --> 00:28:17,866

what values are important to them for what they are standing up for

643

00:28:18,933 --> 00:28:23,733

um what uh for them uh priority is and what is not

644

00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,200

um how they also act humanly

645

00:28:27,366 --> 00:28:28,500

also act in person

646

00:28:28,666 --> 00:28:31,100

outside their management position

647

00:28:32,766 --> 00:28:33,566

um

648

00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,566

what is important to them is also for the team

649

00:28:37,933 --> 00:28:38,966

for the employees

650

00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,766

and so on I have them quasi

651

00:28:42,966 --> 00:28:45,700

so i have my last guided hm

652

00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,900

manager actually

653

00:28:48,166 --> 00:28:50,733

logged out of the comfort zone and then realized

654

00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,100

okay so this is someone

655

00:28:52,366 --> 00:28:54,300

he is very fond of supporting his children

656

00:28:54,533 --> 00:28:55,333

also still has

657

00:28:55,933 --> 00:29:00,966

um uh additional children adopted and um

658

00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,866

he would like to stand up for it

659

00:29:04,966 --> 00:29:07,966

that its employees also work in the areas of

660

00:29:08,166 --> 00:29:10,266

which they just mh

661

00:29:11,466 --> 00:29:14,666

want to develop and in which they are also good

662

00:29:14,933 --> 00:29:17,733

that they also get their funding opportunities there

663

00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,566

and that is exactly what has then also pulled through

664

00:29:22,566 --> 00:29:24,766

and I then also noticed this again and again

665

00:29:24,866 --> 00:29:26,566

that I with him also uh with uh

666

00:29:26,733 --> 00:29:28,766

have also spoken with the manager

667

00:29:28,866 --> 00:29:29,733

again and again I have noticed

668

00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:30,700

okay

669

00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,900

I am also allowed to stand up for myself

670

00:29:32,966 --> 00:29:33,766

I may also say

671

00:29:33,866 --> 00:29:35,766

i would like to be promoted here and there

672

00:29:35,966 --> 00:29:37,466

I need you there and there

673

00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:40,766

um please be there and there for me too

674

00:29:40,966 --> 00:29:42,866

so I can do this and this and so on

675

00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,800

so I was also

676

00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:46,966

taken away in a completely new environment

677

00:29:47,133 --> 00:29:48,600

what I was not aware of until now

678

00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,100

and have incorporated very well

679

00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,800

and I think if you already

680

00:29:55,166 --> 00:29:57,466

in the proposal interview asks such questions

681

00:29:57,566 --> 00:29:59,766

you can also get a very good feeling

682

00:30:00,766 --> 00:30:02,600

for further cooperation

683

00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,400

and

684

00:30:04,866 --> 00:30:06,066

I also still have

685

00:30:07,266 --> 00:30:09,200

um on the website

686

00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,400

from a partner of mentor me

687

00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:14,566

I have also seen that they uh

688

00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,100

use mentomy as a funding program and work for their

689

00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:20,666

also offer employees

690

00:30:21,333 --> 00:30:23,733

so that is also there if uh

691

00:30:23,766 --> 00:30:26,933

when a company on the website or somewhere um

692

00:30:27,666 --> 00:30:28,466

somewhere else

693

00:30:29,333 --> 00:30:30,766

uh for such programs

694

00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:32,400

funding programs advertises

695

00:30:32,533 --> 00:30:33,333

it is then also already called

696

00:30:33,366 --> 00:30:34,366

them is um

697

00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,500

the further development of its employees is also important

698

00:30:39,466 --> 00:30:42,566

and what else I would like to add is

699

00:30:42,866 --> 00:30:45,466

that I have also done everything myself

700

00:30:45,533 --> 00:30:47,600

so no one goes your way themselves

701

00:30:48,466 --> 00:30:50,366

that means you are in favor

702

00:30:50,666 --> 00:30:52,300

you are responsible for your life

703

00:30:52,966 --> 00:30:55,500

uh and for what happens in your life

704

00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:57,866

and I actually have

705

00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,366

i thought i was getting a rejection

706

00:31:00,666 --> 00:31:02,900

but i actually asked my tommy once

707

00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:03,800

whether I am next to a

708

00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:09,000

mentor may receive another mentor

709

00:31:09,866 --> 00:31:12,400

because usually it is just so

710

00:31:12,466 --> 00:31:14,933

that you only have one mentor per year

711

00:31:15,066 --> 00:31:15,866

and that's it

712

00:31:16,666 --> 00:31:19,366

and actually I was not rejected then

713

00:31:19,533 --> 00:31:20,566

in fact he was

714

00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:24,100

I was rather supported in the process

715

00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,666

find another mentor

716

00:31:25,966 --> 00:31:27,466

that suits me and

717

00:31:28,266 --> 00:31:29,466

almost every four years

718

00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:33,166

I had two mentors by my side

719

00:31:33,566 --> 00:31:35,966

because I needed exactly this push

720

00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:38,966

and if you want to move forward

721

00:31:39,166 --> 00:31:41,600

if you really want to develop yourself

722

00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:44,400

then that is also really um

723

00:31:44,933 --> 00:31:45,900

worth very much

724

00:31:47,533 --> 00:31:48,933

you are even

725

00:31:49,266 --> 00:31:50,900

active in community management

726

00:31:51,666 --> 00:31:53,133

um from mentor me

727

00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,200

um also quite great

728

00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:56,800

so if you have any questions about mentomy

729

00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,766

can you also contact brody slava or

730

00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,366

or what exactly are you still doing

731

00:32:00,666 --> 00:32:02,733

I do not have it onm umbrella you do quite a lot

732

00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,300

um maybe for the listener uh again briefly

733

00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:09,500

exactly so i once lied

734

00:32:10,166 --> 00:32:13,666

then uh community song from it and lyrics actually

735

00:32:13,966 --> 00:32:16,266

so there was also an um place free

736

00:32:16,333 --> 00:32:18,400

I also proactively applied for it there

737

00:32:19,466 --> 00:32:22,466

and uh in this community uh

738

00:32:22,733 --> 00:32:26,166

we provide experts every month uh

739

00:32:26,366 --> 00:32:27,166

show

740

00:32:27,266 --> 00:32:30,733

different it topics on uh give more know

741

00:32:31,666 --> 00:32:32,466

um

742

00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:34,400

continue and connect

743

00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,300

also network the women among themselves

744

00:32:38,133 --> 00:32:41,100

the experts also with the members and so on

745

00:32:41,966 --> 00:32:44,066

so that's what i'm responsible for

746

00:32:44,933 --> 00:32:45,500

um

747

00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,066

for the creation of the different events

748

00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:49,100

uh every month

749

00:32:49,933 --> 00:32:52,566

and very soon also as a mentor actually

750

00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,366

but I must also tell you I have

751

00:32:54,733 --> 00:32:55,766

there is no advertising

752

00:32:57,166 --> 00:32:59,533

with mentor me so that is then actually um

753

00:33:00,166 --> 00:33:03,733

that which uh i feel uh and that is my experience

754

00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,000

so meant me has not paid me now for it

755

00:33:06,133 --> 00:33:08,200

to tell so much about it here

756

00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:14,333

yes we are ad free and um is n quite great ngo

757

00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,133

I was once a guest uh

758

00:33:16,166 --> 00:33:17,666

was also allowed to give a short lecture

759

00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:21,666

again for this find's quite great um quite great club

760

00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,300

and thank you for being so active there

761

00:33:25,266 --> 00:33:27,100

um exactly with you is exciting

762

00:33:27,133 --> 00:33:29,100

you were um a woman in

763

00:33:29,533 --> 00:33:32,600

in law or women in liege and until now

764

00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:37,566

so with one or one and a half feet as uh women in it

765

00:33:37,733 --> 00:33:39,100

women in tech gelandet

766

00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:41,300

um

767

00:33:42,166 --> 00:33:44,200

how was one and how is the other

768

00:33:44,466 --> 00:33:46,166

where do you feel most comfortable

769

00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,566

I think I already know the answer

770

00:33:48,733 --> 00:33:50,066

but again from you

771

00:33:51,766 --> 00:33:53,766

and then I want to hear the answer but please

772

00:33:55,766 --> 00:33:56,566

um

773

00:33:57,366 --> 00:33:58,166

ich

774

00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:00,400

to be honest

775

00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:08,366

either in the middle of both

776

00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:11,333

or more in the liegel area

777

00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:13,300

um

778

00:34:14,133 --> 00:34:15,400

womann in it

779

00:34:16,533 --> 00:34:19,300

I do not know I think very many see me there

780

00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:22,100

i believe my perception

781

00:34:22,166 --> 00:34:24,333

my own perception is different

782

00:34:24,566 --> 00:34:26,266

than the foreign perception

783

00:34:26,533 --> 00:34:27,333

and many women

784

00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:29,166

see me as a role model

785

00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:31,366

ah in this area

786

00:34:31,966 --> 00:34:35,300

but she is actually much more in liegel me

787

00:34:36,133 --> 00:34:37,900

if I had to choose now

788

00:34:38,766 --> 00:34:39,933

in the liegel area

789

00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:45,166

okay spannend

790

00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:49,400

mh I have also rather thought so in the middle

791

00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:52,800

because you want everything you want snow and and summer

792

00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,966

I thought okay but exciting

793

00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:57,366

but yes you need yes you need the glasses um

794

00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:02,166

that more complaints and legal in you than tech

795

00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:04,766

but you are then quasi also the bridge builder to

796

00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:06,333

too legal and tech

797

00:35:06,566 --> 00:35:08,533

and you also have many startup customers gell

798

00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:10,800

they probably don't feel that much like it

799

00:35:10,933 --> 00:35:11,900

always on complaints

800

00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,000

and um

801

00:35:13,733 --> 00:35:14,533

um

802

00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,800

Data protection and uh

803

00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,200

gdpr and so on

804

00:35:20,466 --> 00:35:21,666

but for that they have you

805

00:35:21,733 --> 00:35:24,300

so is actually then n great match gell

806

00:35:24,766 --> 00:35:28,666

the um they bubble the startup but

807

00:35:29,266 --> 00:35:32,966

and um you the one you help them

808

00:35:33,366 --> 00:35:35,900

that they do not get lost as far as data protection is concerned

809

00:35:36,066 --> 00:35:37,200

or um

810

00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:40,200

even the data of the customers not

811

00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,400

not treat funny so actually

812

00:35:43,166 --> 00:35:44,466

a perfect win win

813

00:35:44,866 --> 00:35:46,066

so great that you exist

814

00:35:46,166 --> 00:35:47,933

super that you also go deeper and deeper in there

815

00:35:48,266 --> 00:35:50,600

and also save the startups from it

816

00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,133

this is really absolutely cool

817

00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:54,900

um

818

00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,266

exactly we are nearing the end

819

00:35:58,733 --> 00:36:01,200

um yet already much spoiled what you

820

00:36:02,166 --> 00:36:03,400

young girls or women

821

00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,966

um they are thinking of going into it

822

00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:07,266

or maybe current maybe so

823

00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:08,966

do something completely different

824

00:36:09,533 --> 00:36:12,400

and perhaps want to become a kereinsteigerin

825

00:36:12,933 --> 00:36:15,500

but maybe you still have so n so n last greeting

826

00:36:15,566 --> 00:36:16,500

n last um

827

00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:19,466

advice to girls and women

828

00:36:26,333 --> 00:36:27,300

the last council

829

00:36:28,666 --> 00:36:30,100

I would actually say

830

00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,133

very much ne help and support ask

831

00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:35,766

I think um

832

00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,166

and you can also ask your own parents

833

00:36:39,733 --> 00:36:41,900

um but so my parents

834

00:36:43,333 --> 00:36:44,133

are uh

835

00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,366

simply do not know each other so well in the area

836

00:36:47,766 --> 00:36:49,000

that was then unfortunately a pity

837

00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,766

and in my private environment

838

00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:53,300

stop also only the male friends

839

00:36:53,566 --> 00:36:55,733

and there I could also somehow after

840

00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,066

i didn't know how to get the support

841

00:36:59,733 --> 00:37:03,766

but I think one is uh quite well taken care of

842

00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:07,900

in such clubs um where the girls

843

00:37:08,266 --> 00:37:10,000

where women are supported

844

00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,933

and there you also do not necessarily have to know what to do

845

00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,600

would like to make

846

00:37:17,133 --> 00:37:19,166

where the journey should go

847

00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:20,366

you can also times

848

00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:23,866

be in an insecure phase and

849

00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:25,266

look at many times

850

00:37:25,766 --> 00:37:28,600

and uh especially I find

851

00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,800

that there is also a safe space

852

00:37:31,133 --> 00:37:33,866

so everything that is discussed everything that

853

00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,600

um

854

00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:40,566

yes all information um all feelings

855

00:37:40,766 --> 00:37:43,766

emotions because that is just sometimes difficult uh

856

00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,533

in a man-heavy

857

00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,533

area to work in or to get in there in general

858

00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,000

this can also be really emotional

859

00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:52,366

I believe

860

00:37:52,366 --> 00:37:55,700

there girls and women are in quite good hands

861

00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:57,666

around a self-base

862

00:37:57,966 --> 00:38:00,200

to have and to return again and again and

863

00:38:01,266 --> 00:38:02,700

to have a basis

864

00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:06,933

in which you promote each other and in which you

865

00:38:07,733 --> 00:38:09,500

are also personally encouraged

866

00:38:11,733 --> 00:38:13,500

thank you for the closing word

867

00:38:13,966 --> 00:38:15,700

um nice that you were there

868

00:38:17,333 --> 00:38:18,533

and see you very soon

869

00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:20,866

thank you for the invitation

870

00:38:22,333 --> 00:38:23,133

bis bald

871

00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,333

du hattest ja noch gefragt

872

00:00:01,700 --> 00:00:04,866

ähm bezüglich meines digitalen nomadenturms

873

00:00:05,333 --> 00:00:08,600

ähm auch das also die it wie ich finde

874

00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:10,900

bietet sowas sehr gut an

875

00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,600

also wenn du in der it arbeitest

876

00:00:13,733 --> 00:00:15,866

kannst du meistens vieles digital machen

877

00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:18,566

und freiheit so wie

878

00:00:20,700 --> 00:00:22,800

ja selbstbestimmung

879

00:00:23,733 --> 00:00:24,966

will ich es mal so sagen

880

00:00:25,133 --> 00:00:27,333

diese zwei werte hab ich halt auch äh

881

00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,066

bei mir verinnerlicht und das

882

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in der it kann man das halt einfach ganz gut lösen

883

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ohne dass man dafür sehr viel

884

00:00:37,566 --> 00:00:38,366

kämpfen muss

885

00:00:38,466 --> 00:00:42,466

für diese position oder für solche vertrags äh

886

00:00:43,166 --> 00:00:44,966

klausen sag ich jetzt mal so

887

00:01:08,166 --> 00:01:09,866

ich bin äh brunnes lava

888

00:01:09,966 --> 00:01:12,133

ich bin extra in datenschutz beauftragte

889

00:01:12,466 --> 00:01:15,500

selbstständig seit zweieinhalb jahren und lebe

890

00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,500

in unterschiedlichen ländern als digitale nomaden

891

00:01:20,266 --> 00:01:22,300

ähm aktuell bin ich wieder auf malta

892

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und bald versuche ich dem winter wieder zu entkommen

893

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und was mache ich ähm in meiner freizeit gerne

894

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reisen

895

00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,366

und viele neue äh neue hobbys entdecken also

896

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äh skifahren

897

00:01:39,966 --> 00:01:43,100

schwimmen und andere sportliche aktivitäten

898

00:01:47,366 --> 00:01:48,366

das ist spannend

899

00:01:48,466 --> 00:01:49,700

also suchst du nicht nur den sommer

900

00:01:49,766 --> 00:01:50,800

sondern manchmal auch schnee

901

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so ausnahmsweise

902

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ja ich mags wenn man es plant

903

00:01:57,466 --> 00:01:59,566

wenn ich plane den schnee zu haben

904

00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,333

wenn du grad lust auf winter und schnee hast ja

905

00:02:05,366 --> 00:02:07,300

ja aber es ist halt auch mega

906

00:02:07,566 --> 00:02:09,800

bei dreißig grad am strand zu sein

907

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und weihnachten zu feiern also

908

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ich mag beides

909

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das ist super

910

00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:18,333

da hast du dir wirklich ne super tolle

911

00:02:18,566 --> 00:02:19,966

kombination ausgesucht

912

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ich glaub wenn ich

913

00:02:22,166 --> 00:02:23,100

mich recht in sinne

914

00:02:23,166 --> 00:02:25,066

hast du dir es auch beruflich quasi ausgesucht

915

00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,566

ja du bist ähm

916

00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:29,300

ja nicht gleich so gelandet wo du jetzt bist beruflich

917

00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,666

sondern das hat sich so ergeben

918

00:02:30,900 --> 00:02:33,333

wie hat sich wie hat sich das ergeben ich glaub ähm

919

00:02:33,533 --> 00:02:35,300

das war am anfang n bisschen anders

920

00:02:36,566 --> 00:02:39,700

ähm und dann bist du quasi so wie ähm

921

00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,566

privat der sonne entgegen

922

00:02:42,066 --> 00:02:44,000

dem was was dir mehr gefällt entgegen

923

00:02:44,133 --> 00:02:45,166

wie hat sich das ergeben

924

00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:47,600

wie war so so grob dein weg

925

00:02:48,266 --> 00:02:49,666

zu dem was du aktuell machst

926

00:02:50,866 --> 00:02:53,800

oh je grob ha ha ähm

927

00:02:53,933 --> 00:02:56,600

also ich versuch mal die meilensteine einfach mal kurz

928

00:02:56,733 --> 00:02:57,533

anzuschneiden

929

00:02:58,133 --> 00:03:00,933

also ich habe wirtschaftsrecht studiert am anfang

930

00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,766

ähm wobei meine

931

00:03:03,566 --> 00:03:05,500

meine familie mich dahin gefördert hat

932

00:03:05,566 --> 00:03:06,700

dass und gefordert hat

933

00:03:06,733 --> 00:03:07,600

dass ich auch äh

934

00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:09,466

jura studiere in deutschland

935

00:03:09,866 --> 00:03:12,266

das hab ich dann halt auch nachträglich zumindest

936

00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,200

angefangen

937

00:03:14,266 --> 00:03:15,066

ähm

938

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genau und während

939

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des äh wirtschaftsrechtstudiums hab ich schon

940

00:03:21,166 --> 00:03:22,000

in unterschiedlichen

941

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kanzleien gearbeitet und hab gemerkt

942

00:03:23,966 --> 00:03:26,333

irgendwie ist das halt so komisch ähm

943

00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,966

irgendwie so streng und zu seriös und zu professionell

944

00:03:31,533 --> 00:03:32,333

irgendwie

945

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ähm

946

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und die themen waren jetzt auch nicht so ganz spannend

947

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also war ich dann in den

948

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äh rechtsabteilungen in unternehmen das waren

949

00:03:43,133 --> 00:03:44,766

das war dann auch viel spannender

950

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und durch die

951

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durch unterschiedliche

952

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ja

953

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ähm stationen im berufsleben

954

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äh durch unterschiedliche branchen und

955

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ja interessen bin ich dann auch zu complaints gekommen

956

00:04:03,266 --> 00:04:04,300

in der zwischenzeit

957

00:04:05,133 --> 00:04:06,800

habe ich auch ganz viele

958

00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,600

männliche freunde

959

00:04:09,133 --> 00:04:10,700

die in der it arbeiten

960

00:04:10,966 --> 00:04:12,466

und sie haben mir immer ganz viel

961

00:04:13,766 --> 00:04:15,766

na ja ähm ganz wie ihr seht

962

00:04:15,900 --> 00:04:16,933

was da so alles passiert

963

00:04:17,066 --> 00:04:19,066

und wie cool eigentlich dieser bereich ist

964

00:04:19,333 --> 00:04:20,766

und ich hab mir mal geschworen

965

00:04:20,933 --> 00:04:21,766

dass ich ähm

966

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dann irgendwas mit recht in der it machen werde

967

00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:27,900

und am ende ist es ja auch so geworden

968

00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:29,666

ich mach irgendwas mit recht in der it

969

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ähm

970

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und complaints ist ja auch schon irgendwas rechtliches

971

00:04:35,333 --> 00:04:37,800

und das war auch ähm in einem

972

00:04:38,900 --> 00:04:41,000

ja ein zielastigen unternehmen

973

00:04:41,566 --> 00:04:42,700

und dann bin ich halt einfach in die

974

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selbstständigkeit gegangen

975

00:04:43,966 --> 00:04:44,733

und hab versucht

976

00:04:44,733 --> 00:04:46,700

irgendwo so meinen weg zu finden

977

00:04:46,866 --> 00:04:49,100

als extra ne datenschutzbeauftragte

978

00:04:49,266 --> 00:04:50,066

die irgendwie

979

00:04:50,300 --> 00:04:51,733

etwas juristisches macht

980

00:04:51,933 --> 00:04:54,800

irgendwas technisches und auch organisatorisches

981

00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,000

und mit irgendwas

982

00:04:58,533 --> 00:05:02,666

was mir halt spaß macht und das war dann halt schon so

983

00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:05,566

alle it lastige unternehmen

984

00:05:06,733 --> 00:05:09,300

ja dann bin ich halt irgendwie dahin gekommen

985

00:05:10,533 --> 00:05:12,100

also mich ganz viel ausprobiert

986

00:05:14,166 --> 00:05:14,900

das ist super

987

00:05:14,900 --> 00:05:16,366

ausprobieren ist super ähm

988

00:05:16,466 --> 00:05:18,366

haben andere gesternen mir auch schon gesagt

989

00:05:18,700 --> 00:05:20,133

einfach mal machen ausprobieren

990

00:05:20,733 --> 00:05:21,700

in heutzutage

991

00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:24,000

muss man nicht mehr sich mit zwanzig

992

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oder mitte zwanzig entscheiden und dann

993

00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:29,700

ähm vierzig jahre arbeiten bis zur rente

994

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und äh durchziehen

995

00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:35,566

sondern auf jeden fall den ähm karriereweg auch ändern

996

00:05:36,700 --> 00:05:38,766

ähm wenn ich richtig verstanden hab

997

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haben mich dann quasi itler die schon in it arbeiten

998

00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:42,900

inspiriert

999

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und ähm oder gab's da spezielle vorbilder mentoren

00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,700

die dich dann in dem weg begleitet haben und

00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,666

gab's die dann zufällig

00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,566

die halt beruflich aufgetaucht sind

00:05:55,700 --> 00:05:56,733

privat aufgetaucht sind

00:05:56,900 --> 00:05:59,300

oder hast du dir die ausgesuchten anführungszeichen

00:05:59,366 --> 00:06:00,166

wie kam das

00:06:02,366 --> 00:06:03,566

okay ganz viele fragen

00:06:04,533 --> 00:06:05,666

ähm zunächst

00:06:05,766 --> 00:06:08,500

ich hatte tatsächlich eigentlich nur männliche freunde

00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,766

die in der it

00:06:09,966 --> 00:06:12,666

gearbeitet haben und mir gefühlt täglich erzählt haben

00:06:12,700 --> 00:06:13,500

wie cool das ist

00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:15,700

und was sie da alles machen

00:06:15,866 --> 00:06:17,500

und wie viel freiraum sie da haben

00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,300

und sie können einfach so hin und her switchen und ähm

00:06:22,500 --> 00:06:25,566

zwischen den positionen zwischen den unternehmen und

00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:28,900

irgendwie auch sehr viel entscheidungsspielraum

00:06:29,066 --> 00:06:29,933

sehr viel freiheit

00:06:30,366 --> 00:06:31,300

so auch viele

00:06:31,766 --> 00:06:34,200

werte die ich halt auch verinnerlicht habe

00:06:35,166 --> 00:06:36,900

äh wurden da auch angesprochen

00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:44,566

ähm deswegen war's irgendwie war mein freundeskreis

00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,100

ähm mein vorbild

00:06:49,466 --> 00:06:50,866

wobei keiner

00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,366

bisher den weg gegangen ist äh

00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:55,100

vor mir also den ich jetzt kenne

00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,000

äh der jetzt jura

00:06:57,466 --> 00:06:59,800

mit reingebracht hat in der in die it

00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:00,933

also ich war in

00:07:01,300 --> 00:07:03,400

in unterschiedlichen kanzleien unterwegs

00:07:04,266 --> 00:07:05,500

ähm aber es war nie

00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,400

jemand da der mich auch wirklich mit begleiten konnte

00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:12,666

der mir den weg freigeben frei machen konnte

00:07:14,133 --> 00:07:14,933

und

00:07:15,933 --> 00:07:19,066

ich hatte nur einen vorderer und förderer

00:07:19,166 --> 00:07:20,133

nämlich meinen vater

00:07:20,666 --> 00:07:21,766

der gesagt hat mach

00:07:22,533 --> 00:07:24,866

studiere jura sei rechtsanwältin

00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,133

aber das war mir zu klassisch

00:07:27,266 --> 00:07:29,466

und irgendwie hab ich mir dann halt wirklich gesagt

00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,933

also ich versuch dann einfach

00:07:31,133 --> 00:07:33,300

eine juristin in der it zu sein

00:07:34,100 --> 00:07:36,400

ähm und mal sehen wie das halt klappt ich mein

00:07:36,933 --> 00:07:37,733

das war schon

00:07:38,166 --> 00:07:39,366

wie lange ist es her

00:07:40,366 --> 00:07:43,200

ja fast zehn jahre ist es ja jetzt her

00:07:43,333 --> 00:07:44,333

also die zeiten haben sich

00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,366

ja auch schon geändert

00:07:45,766 --> 00:07:48,133

äh damals sah ich halt nicht so viele möglichkeiten

00:07:48,966 --> 00:07:51,666

äh jura in der it mitzumachen

00:07:51,866 --> 00:07:53,800

heute gibt's halt wirklich unterschiedliches

00:07:54,566 --> 00:07:58,266

was also unterschiedliche möglichkeiten wege

00:07:59,366 --> 00:08:01,900

ähm positionen und so weiter

00:08:03,533 --> 00:08:05,866

und da habe ich äh

00:08:06,266 --> 00:08:09,066

über eine stellenanzeige bin ich dann tatsächlich

00:08:09,366 --> 00:08:10,933

auf ein unternehmen gekommen

00:08:11,566 --> 00:08:16,733

das mentomie fördert also eine ngo die frauen fördert

00:08:17,566 --> 00:08:20,200

und da hab ich mich als mentee angemeldet

00:08:20,866 --> 00:08:22,933

und bin jetzt mittlerweile im vierten jahr dabei

00:08:23,933 --> 00:08:25,333

und dort äh

00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:29,733

wirst du mit einem mentor oder mentoren gematcht ähm

00:08:29,966 --> 00:08:31,266

um dich privat

00:08:31,466 --> 00:08:33,900

beruflich persönlich weiterzuentwickeln

00:08:34,466 --> 00:08:36,366

und dort wurde ich dann sehr gut

00:08:37,133 --> 00:08:38,466

und bedarfsgerecht

00:08:38,566 --> 00:08:41,333

eigentlich erstmal bedürfnis orientiert ähm

00:08:42,666 --> 00:08:44,500

ja unterstützt in dem bereich

00:08:44,566 --> 00:08:46,100

und bin dann halt auch mal weitergegangen

00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:47,600

in den vier jahren

00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:51,966

mentoring hab ich mich extrem weiterentwickelt und nur

00:08:52,166 --> 00:08:54,733

so langsam meine positionierung

00:08:54,966 --> 00:08:58,000

meine position in dieser it landschaft

00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,800

und

00:09:01,933 --> 00:09:05,166

ja würde ich auch jedem weiterempfehlen

00:09:05,766 --> 00:09:09,066

ähm so sich so ein menschring dazu zu holen

00:09:09,533 --> 00:09:12,533

weil es dann einfach unterschiedliche menschen sind

00:09:12,766 --> 00:09:14,400

die dich auch wirklich ähm

00:09:14,866 --> 00:09:17,733

passend zu dir äh dich fördern

00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,200

ja

00:09:20,766 --> 00:09:21,566

cool

00:09:22,166 --> 00:09:23,966

ähm ich bin auch schon länger in der it

00:09:24,766 --> 00:09:26,000

was ich gemerkt hab früher

00:09:26,866 --> 00:09:28,000

vor zehn zwanzig jahren

00:09:28,533 --> 00:09:30,133

war it e commerce

00:09:30,466 --> 00:09:33,133

also im internet teilweise rechtsfreier raum

00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,100

hat es dir geholfen dass

00:09:35,266 --> 00:09:38,266

dass es alle paar jahre mehr regeln gab mehr gesetze

00:09:38,866 --> 00:09:42,566

dsgvo kam äh zwanzig achtzehn zwanzig neunzehn

00:09:43,133 --> 00:09:46,100

jetzt ganz viele ähm it security

00:09:47,066 --> 00:09:48,366

richtlinie und gesetze

00:09:48,733 --> 00:09:49,866

hat dir das geholfen

00:09:50,333 --> 00:09:52,666

ähm oder war das zufällig oder hättest du das trotzdem

00:09:52,700 --> 00:09:55,133

so gewählt oder hat sich bei dir alles so ergeben

00:09:55,300 --> 00:09:56,566

du hattest interesse und

00:09:57,500 --> 00:09:58,300

ähm

00:09:59,366 --> 00:10:00,600

zufall schicksal hat

00:10:00,733 --> 00:10:02,300

hat dir in die karten gespielt

00:10:02,466 --> 00:10:04,100

weil es immer mehr complaints gibt

00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,133

immer mehr regeln immer mehr gesetze

00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:13,966

ne das war alles zufall

00:10:15,166 --> 00:10:17,666

also ich hab ihr complains war nie mein thema

00:10:17,866 --> 00:10:18,900

ich wollte nur jura

00:10:19,133 --> 00:10:20,133

also wie gesagt jura

00:10:20,366 --> 00:10:22,600

irgendwas mit jura in der it machen das war

00:10:23,300 --> 00:10:25,533

ich dachte ich werde dann rechtsanwältin in

00:10:25,933 --> 00:10:26,900

im bereich it

00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:29,566

recht aber das ist ja total klassisch was mir

00:10:29,733 --> 00:10:32,100

was mir einfach nicht liegt was ich nicht machen will

00:10:33,466 --> 00:10:36,666

und mit complaints hatte ich nix wirklich am hut

00:10:36,766 --> 00:10:39,400

bis ich aber eine stellenanzeige die cool war

00:10:40,066 --> 00:10:43,166

ähm gesehen habe mich einfach darauf beworben habe

00:10:44,333 --> 00:10:45,133

und

00:10:45,666 --> 00:10:49,866

der äh meine führungskraft war dann einfach ähm

00:10:50,533 --> 00:10:53,100

genau das was ich halt gebraucht habe als person

00:10:53,900 --> 00:10:56,933

ähm die mich da auch gefordert und gefördert hat

00:10:57,900 --> 00:10:58,700

ähm

00:10:59,166 --> 00:11:00,800

aber in dem bereich complaints

00:11:01,066 --> 00:11:02,666

aber ich wollte da halt noch weitergehen

00:11:03,533 --> 00:11:04,600

deswegen bin ich dann auch in die

00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:05,733

selbstständigkeit gegangen

00:11:05,766 --> 00:11:06,566

und habt eigentlich

00:11:07,966 --> 00:11:09,566

äh fast das gleiche gemacht

00:11:10,333 --> 00:11:13,900

äh wie in dem angestellten verhältnis also war

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vorher äh

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complaints managerin und data protection manager

00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:20,333

und danach äh

00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,400

hab ich die ausbildungen

00:11:21,533 --> 00:11:22,533

und weiterbildungen zum

00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,300

externen datenschutzbeauftragten

00:11:24,366 --> 00:11:25,966

und informationssicherheitsbeauftragten und

00:11:26,066 --> 00:11:27,533

hinwasgeberschutz und alles mögliche

00:11:27,733 --> 00:11:29,466

so gemacht so ja total technisch

00:11:30,333 --> 00:11:31,133

ähm

00:11:32,266 --> 00:11:34,066

und hab mich dahingehend

00:11:34,266 --> 00:11:36,100

weiterentwickelt und irgendwann gemerkt

00:11:36,566 --> 00:11:39,900

ja das ist ja aber ein cooles business und ähm

00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:43,100

complaints generell wird immer mehr

00:11:43,366 --> 00:11:46,200

immer relevanter für unternehmen aber auch für

00:11:46,266 --> 00:11:47,200

privatpersonen

00:11:48,100 --> 00:11:49,966

und hab da einfach so meinen

00:11:51,566 --> 00:11:56,000

meinen platz so gefunden und es wurde ich hab es auch

00:11:56,900 --> 00:12:00,366

ich habe complains auch viel persönlicher genommen und

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konnte auch damit etwas mehr anfangen als vorher

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und

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so bin ich eigentlich dazu gekommen

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also das war wirklich relativ

00:12:10,966 --> 00:12:11,766

zufällig

00:12:15,266 --> 00:12:18,566

ich find es sehr spannend ähm ich blödier auch immer

00:12:18,933 --> 00:12:21,566

dass auch viele quereinsteiger und quereinsteigerinnen

00:12:21,766 --> 00:12:23,100

sich trauen in die idt

00:12:23,333 --> 00:12:27,333

zu gehen weil das feld ist so soweit ähm

00:12:27,966 --> 00:12:29,266

ich find toll ähm

00:12:29,366 --> 00:12:30,400

die idler selbst

00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,400

die quälen sich oft mit complains themen

00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:35,800

ähm irgendwie notwendiges übel

00:12:36,066 --> 00:12:37,100

und wenn's halt mehr

00:12:37,533 --> 00:12:39,733

richtlinien gesetze gibt die man folgen muss

00:12:40,333 --> 00:12:42,966

wird es immer mehr an bürokratie also viele itler

00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:45,566

informatiker ähm und informatikerinnen

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die sehen dann nur die die bürokratie arbeit

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und

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deshalb find ich super

00:12:51,333 --> 00:12:53,700

dass du da voll motiviert reingehst und ganz ähm

00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,200

ganz absichtlich auch in die it

00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:56,400

gehst

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ähm können wir itler auf jeden fall sehr gebrauchen

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danke dass du da

00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,733

dass du da reingegangen bist ähm

00:13:04,766 --> 00:13:07,166

deine arbeit jetzt als selbstständige

00:13:08,066 --> 00:13:08,866

ähm

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fast jeder itler könnte selbständig werden

00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,900

also es ist immer ganz gut ähm

00:13:12,933 --> 00:13:14,166

da tolle vorbilder zu haben

00:13:14,266 --> 00:13:15,066

so wie dich jetzt

00:13:15,566 --> 00:13:16,933

ähm auch in dieser nische

00:13:17,133 --> 00:13:19,100

magst du dann noch mal mir erzählen

00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,766

was du da ähm

00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,100

angeboten hast als du gestartet hast

00:13:23,133 --> 00:13:24,366

was du jetzt anbietest

00:13:25,466 --> 00:13:26,266

ähm

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dass dass die zuhörer

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und zuhörerin sich das besser vorstellen können

00:13:31,333 --> 00:13:33,600

was du da machst und ob das vielleicht auch was wäre

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auch wenn man jetzt nicht ähm

00:13:35,933 --> 00:13:38,100

softwareentwicklerin softwareentwickler is

00:13:38,266 --> 00:13:39,300

sondern ganz was anderes

00:13:39,533 --> 00:13:41,266

so als quereinsteiger in der it

00:13:41,566 --> 00:13:43,533

gelandet is und trotzdem die möglichkeit

00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:47,000

ähm gefunden hat selbständig zu werden

00:13:47,766 --> 00:13:48,800

und ich find's ganz toll

00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:51,766

ich glaub die zuhörerin und zuhörer auch äh

00:13:51,933 --> 00:13:53,200

digitales normantum

00:13:54,166 --> 00:13:54,966

ähm

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kennt man sonst auch eher von

00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,466

informatikern oder grafikern oder copyrights

00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:01,800

ähm also mal ganz spannend dass jemand

00:14:02,066 --> 00:14:04,966

der recht anbietet das auch kann von überall

00:14:05,866 --> 00:14:07,200

vielleicht dokumente lesen

00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:10,933

verträge ähm auf complaints achtet

00:14:14,666 --> 00:14:15,466

mh hm

00:14:16,066 --> 00:14:18,666

ja ich ähm das sind sehr gute fragen

00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,000

ich würd erstmal kurz äh darauf eingehen

00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:22,300

was du vorher gesagt hast

00:14:23,266 --> 00:14:24,066

ähm nämlich

00:14:24,166 --> 00:14:27,000

ich hab halt einfach in den letzten jahren immer mehr

00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,066

verstanden wo meine stärken und schwächen sind und wo

00:14:32,333 --> 00:14:34,100

welche skills ich mitbringe

00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,066

und wie meine persönlichkeit ist und

00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:39,266

wie ich arbeiten möchte und so weiter

00:14:39,366 --> 00:14:40,500

und deswegen hab ich mich halt auch

00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,166

dahingehend viel entwickelt

00:14:43,533 --> 00:14:46,700

und zu deinen fragen also wie gesagt ich bin mit

00:14:47,333 --> 00:14:48,266

weil ich dachte

00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,366

ich werde jetzt einfach so ganz klassisch das anbieten

00:14:52,900 --> 00:14:56,133

was meinem früheren arbeitgeber

00:14:56,733 --> 00:14:57,533

angeboten wurde

00:14:57,666 --> 00:14:58,500

also mein früherer

00:14:58,866 --> 00:15:00,266

arbeitgeber hatte auch einen

00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,966

externen datenschutzbeauftragten

00:15:02,133 --> 00:15:02,900

ich fand das cool

00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:04,700

durfte mich aber da nicht weiterentwickeln

00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,733

also dachte ich na gut dann kündige ich

00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:07,700

dann mach ich halt einfach

00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,666

meinen eigenen datenschutzbeauftragten

00:15:09,866 --> 00:15:11,166

ja ähm

00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:15,800

und dieses klassische

00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,266

diese klassische rolle hab ich am anfang eingenommen

00:15:19,466 --> 00:15:21,366

also wirklich ähm

00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,966

man kann sich das wie ein berater vorstellen

00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,166

oder wie ein auditor

00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,533

äh oder wie ein trainer der ähm

00:15:30,533 --> 00:15:32,966

und äh in die unternehmen reingeht und schaut

00:15:33,533 --> 00:15:35,133

äh wie sind die unternehmen

00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,300

im bereich datenschutz

00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,300

informationssicherheit und so weiter aufgebaut

00:15:40,766 --> 00:15:43,333

welche gels also welche lücken gibt es da

00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:45,066

was muss geschlossen werden wie wichtig

00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,566

relevant ist das ähm

00:15:47,366 --> 00:15:52,566

wie hoch sind die risiken und das alles ähm

00:15:53,066 --> 00:15:56,066

rechtlich technisch und organisatorisch abdecken

00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,466

aber auch äh complains sein mit den regulären in äh

00:16:02,766 --> 00:16:05,466

im inland aber auch innerhalb der eu

00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,400

und das hat mir halt am anfang schon

00:16:09,733 --> 00:16:10,966

relativ viel spaß gemacht

00:16:11,266 --> 00:16:11,666

ich hab

00:16:11,666 --> 00:16:14,000

ich war auch am anfang zum glück sehr schlau und habe

00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,700

retainer verträge gemacht

00:16:15,866 --> 00:16:16,666

also das heißt

00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,266

meine kunden für die nächsten zwei bis vier jahre

00:16:19,466 --> 00:16:21,000

auch direkt äh gebunden

00:16:22,266 --> 00:16:23,066

ähm

00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:27,266

was mir dann aber im laufe der jahre aufgefallen ist

00:16:27,333 --> 00:16:29,300

also in den letzten zweieinhalb jahren

00:16:30,066 --> 00:16:32,133

dass ich einfach dafür nicht gemacht bin

00:16:32,533 --> 00:16:34,900

ich bin nicht äh dafür gemacht

00:16:35,066 --> 00:16:36,800

im operativen bereich zu arbeiten

00:16:36,933 --> 00:16:37,933

ich mag's total

00:16:38,666 --> 00:16:40,333

ähm es liegt mir aber nicht

00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:41,666

ich habe keine lust

00:16:42,133 --> 00:16:43,266

dokumente zu prüfen

00:16:43,700 --> 00:16:45,533

heute im laptop acht stunden zu sitzen

00:16:45,733 --> 00:16:48,166

und auftragsverarbeitungsverträge zu prüfen

00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,333

wobei es mittlerweile ja auch ein paar tours gibt

00:16:51,466 --> 00:16:53,100

aber selbst darauf hab ich halt keine lust

00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:55,933

oder ich hab keine lust ähm

00:16:58,500 --> 00:16:59,300

ja

00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:01,600

immer wieder regelmäßig äh

00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:03,166

die gleichen fragen zu beantworten

00:17:03,533 --> 00:17:05,266

und ich hab halt einfach auch gemerkt

00:17:05,666 --> 00:17:07,200

ich bin eine problemlöserin

00:17:07,333 --> 00:17:08,733

ich bin eine produktdesignerin

00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,366

wie das auch meine mentorin diese woche gesagt hat ähm

00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,400

ich brauche eher so das kreative

00:17:15,666 --> 00:17:17,066

ich möchte probleme lösen

00:17:17,166 --> 00:17:19,100

ich möchte vieles automatisieren

00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,000

ich möchte das

00:17:20,266 --> 00:17:21,866

äh ich möchte complaints nicht so

00:17:21,866 --> 00:17:24,000

lange atmig machen und so weiter und

00:17:24,733 --> 00:17:25,533

darauf

00:17:25,933 --> 00:17:26,733

ähm

00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:29,300

das so bin ich jetzt gerade

00:17:29,533 --> 00:17:32,733

das heißt ich suche also ganz gleich bald

00:17:33,166 --> 00:17:35,700

ähm ganz offiziell einen co founder

00:17:35,966 --> 00:17:38,700

der mit mir das ganze auch angeht und der mit mir

00:17:39,133 --> 00:17:42,866

also der meine äh schwächen ausgleicht um

00:17:43,366 --> 00:17:45,866

dann tatsächlich viel produktiver zu sein

00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,400

viel mehr

00:17:47,933 --> 00:17:51,466

ähm also complains in unternehmen zu bringen ähm

00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,066

das auch noch äh wachstum fördert das umsatz fördert

00:17:56,900 --> 00:17:58,500

und einfach äh die komplette

00:17:59,266 --> 00:18:01,700

das komplexe welt einfach umdrehen und sagen

00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,200

das ist halt einfach mega wenn ihr euch ähm

00:18:05,933 --> 00:18:07,533

um solche themen kümmert

00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,600

und das bringt euch halt auch ganz viel

00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:14,566

und ja und die bürokratie und so weiter einfach mal

00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:16,700

etwas einfacher machen

00:18:16,933 --> 00:18:18,700

prozesse etablieren und so weiter

00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,266

also ja da bin ich jetzt so verankert

00:18:22,533 --> 00:18:23,966

sehr spannend äh

00:18:24,333 --> 00:18:27,666

ihr habt's gehört äh und ich lava sucht co founder

00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:31,333

also meldet euch gern ähm bei wohn ich lava direkt äh

00:18:31,866 --> 00:18:32,966

bei linkedin ich

00:18:33,066 --> 00:18:35,300

ich werd's verlinken oder meldet euch bei mir

00:18:35,366 --> 00:18:37,333

dann werd ich's weiterleiten ähm

00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,900

ganz tolle news ich

00:18:39,133 --> 00:18:41,000

ich bin sehr gespannt wie er sich da meldet

00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:44,566

ja ich auch

00:18:45,533 --> 00:18:50,366

ha ha ha sehr gut und freut mich ähm genau

00:18:50,966 --> 00:18:52,666

du hattest ja noch gefragt

00:18:57,666 --> 00:18:58,966

ähm du hattest ja noch gefragt

00:18:59,366 --> 00:19:03,733

ähm bezüglich meines digitalen nomadentums ähm auch das

00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,266

also die it die ich finde

00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,066

bietet sowas sehr gut an also

00:19:09,866 --> 00:19:11,300

wenn du in der it arbeitest

00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,533

kannst du meistens vieles digital machen

00:19:14,366 --> 00:19:16,200

und freiheit so wie

00:19:18,333 --> 00:19:20,500

ja selbstbestimmung

00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:22,200

will ich es mal

00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,000

so sagen diese zwei werte hab ich halt auch äh

00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:27,733

bei mir verinnerlicht und das

00:19:28,866 --> 00:19:30,733

in der it kann man das halt einfach

00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:34,366

ganz gut lösen ohne dass man dafür sehr viel

00:19:35,266 --> 00:19:37,100

kämpfen muss für diese position

00:19:37,300 --> 00:19:40,100

oder für solche vertrags äh

00:19:40,866 --> 00:19:42,666

klausen sag ich jetzt mal so

00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:53,166

das find ich find ich super

00:19:53,266 --> 00:19:55,366

dass du da ganz selbst bestimmt

00:19:55,666 --> 00:19:57,800

dir das ausgesucht hast deine nische

00:19:58,933 --> 00:20:01,766

und dann sogar ähm dein arbeitsort

00:20:02,866 --> 00:20:03,666

ähm

00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,333

also für die zuhörer

00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,266

ich frag jedes mal wenn ich äh mit brunislava spreche

00:20:08,333 --> 00:20:09,300

wo wo sie grad is

00:20:09,966 --> 00:20:12,000

ähm sie kommt sehr viel rum ähm

00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:14,400

ich glaub zweite heimat is malta

00:20:14,566 --> 00:20:16,500

malta hör ich ganz oft aber auch andere länder

00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,933

wo warst du überall schon

00:20:18,533 --> 00:20:21,500

und was is so dein dein plan für den für den winter

00:20:25,533 --> 00:20:26,333

ja

00:20:26,900 --> 00:20:29,866

wo war ich schon also viel in

00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,900

europa in den südlichen ländern natürlich

00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:37,266

weil ich also vor allem im winter

00:20:37,333 --> 00:20:39,533

ich mag es einfach nicht diesen depressiven

00:20:39,766 --> 00:20:41,500

winter zu haben wie in deutschland

00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:43,500

ähm

00:20:44,266 --> 00:20:49,300

genau ansonsten in thailand ähm indonesien

00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,733

in den emiraten kanada

00:20:54,533 --> 00:20:57,466

amerika also ähm usa mein ich

00:20:58,533 --> 00:20:59,333

äh genau

00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:01,800

und ganz viel bin ich in weiter

00:21:02,266 --> 00:21:04,400

weil ja auch meine company hier gemeldet ist

00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,766

also ich bin ausgewandert auch vor zweieinhalb jahren

00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:09,100

das war

00:21:09,466 --> 00:21:12,333

der grund warum ich auch selbstständig geworden bin

00:21:13,266 --> 00:21:15,800

und seitdem ist halt auch meine company in weiter

00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,100

gemeldet äh weswegen das halt einfach so

00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:24,166

der ort ist an den ich äh regelmäßig zurückkomme

00:21:25,066 --> 00:21:27,133

was mein plan ist für den winter eigentlich

00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,000

hatte ich tatsächlich andere pläne um ehrlich zu sein

00:21:30,466 --> 00:21:31,600

ich hatte eigentlich den plan

00:21:31,933 --> 00:21:34,266

im balkan äh dieses jahr zu bleiben

00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:36,266

äh über den winter

00:21:37,266 --> 00:21:38,066

ähm

00:21:38,766 --> 00:21:41,133

allerdings ist mein visum abgelaufen

00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,300

das hab ich jetzt nicht so ganz mitbekommen

00:21:43,666 --> 00:21:45,966

das heißt also ich muss dann doch drei monate

00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:48,266

jetzt irgendwo anders verbringen

00:21:48,466 --> 00:21:49,666

und es kann halt alles sein

00:21:50,133 --> 00:21:52,966

also ich bin jetzt gerade offen für sogar finland

00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,966

dänemark ähm also weit oder irland

00:21:57,566 --> 00:22:01,333

äh weit im norden äh hoffentlich mit etwas mehr schnee

00:22:01,733 --> 00:22:04,566

oder ganz im süden damit's halt auch wirklich

00:22:05,466 --> 00:22:08,300

vielleicht fünfzehn grad zwanzig grad sind so

00:22:09,066 --> 00:22:13,166

das wäre auch ganz cool also gerade bin ich noch

00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:14,900

ähm

00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,333

ja am aussuchen der länder

00:22:21,933 --> 00:22:25,100

das echt äh n krasses luxusproblem find ich

00:22:25,266 --> 00:22:26,866

find ich sehr spannend ich bin gespannt

00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:28,666

ob du dann ähm

00:22:29,333 --> 00:22:31,300

doch weihnachten am strand bist oder

00:22:31,866 --> 00:22:33,800

mit mit zwei meter schnee irgendwo

00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,000

irgendwo in finnland

00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,400

vielleicht sogar mit dem weihnachtsmann irgendwo im in

00:22:37,733 --> 00:22:40,000

in finnland ähm spannend

00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,566

sehr cool sehr cool

00:22:42,566 --> 00:22:44,466

ähm ich hab rausgehört

00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:47,400

du hast paar mal die richtung geändert

00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:48,533

und bist jetzt so gelandet

00:22:48,766 --> 00:22:50,166

beruflich als auch ähm

00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:52,466

privat da wo es dir sehr gefällt

00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,333

so im nachhinein ähm

00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,733

deine reflektion was würdest du anders machen

00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,600

was würdest du vielleicht mehr machen

00:23:00,766 --> 00:23:04,133

so im rückblick auf deinen bisherigen karriereweg

00:23:04,566 --> 00:23:06,966

ähm vielleicht so auch als tipps für die zuhören

00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,133

ich glaube ähm

00:23:14,733 --> 00:23:16,600

ich würde jetzt nix anders machen

00:23:17,133 --> 00:23:17,933

auf meinem weg

00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,466

äh weil es dann glaub ich heißen würde

00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:21,800

ich würde etwas bereuen

00:23:22,666 --> 00:23:24,866

und das möchte ich nicht für mein leben

00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,900

und ich bin fein mit dem weg

00:23:28,566 --> 00:23:32,333

allerdings glaube ich dass es sehr wichtig ist

00:23:33,733 --> 00:23:34,933

kinder frauen

00:23:35,866 --> 00:23:39,600

mädchen sehr früh schon zu fördern und zu fordern

00:23:40,733 --> 00:23:42,133

ähm das

00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:46,766

bedürfnis- und bedarfsorientiert ist

00:23:47,566 --> 00:23:49,400

also wenn mädchen und frauen

00:23:51,933 --> 00:23:53,366

äh bestimmte stärken haben

00:23:53,466 --> 00:23:55,900

bestimmte skills haben und so weiter ähm

00:23:55,966 --> 00:23:57,166

und die irgendwie scheinbar

00:23:57,966 --> 00:24:00,933

scheinbar quasi nicht passen in die it heißt es

00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,366

ja es ist halt einfach nur das bild der gesellschaft

00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:07,166

würd ich sagen

00:24:07,166 --> 00:24:09,600

aber du kannst in der at wirklich sehr vieles machen

00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,733

ähm du kannst dich da wirklich sehr viel austoben

00:24:13,933 --> 00:24:16,700

auch wenn du mathematik studiert hast auch wenn du

00:24:17,333 --> 00:24:18,366

marketingmaster

00:24:18,566 --> 00:24:20,933

auch wenn du interesse hast am produktdesign

00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,333

auch wenn du irgendwas anderes ähm

00:24:24,933 --> 00:24:27,366

kannst also selbst ähm

00:24:28,666 --> 00:24:29,466

also mir

00:24:29,666 --> 00:24:32,000

mir fallen jetzt gerade nicht so viele beispiele ein

00:24:32,733 --> 00:24:33,733

allerdings ähm

00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:35,600

ich fand's sehr treffend

00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:37,966

als meine mentorin mir diese woche gesagt hat

00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,533

ja eigentlich hörst du dich so an

00:24:39,566 --> 00:24:41,800

als wärst du gerne eine produktdesignerin

00:24:42,333 --> 00:24:43,900

und das ist dann halt auch so

00:24:43,966 --> 00:24:46,333

dann bin ich halt eine in der it

00:24:46,733 --> 00:24:48,933

und dann sind es halt auch meine stärken

00:24:49,066 --> 00:24:51,533

die ich halt sehr gut nutzen kann und von denen andere

00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,266

profitieren deswegen mein rat äh seh ich

00:24:56,300 --> 00:24:58,166

sehr früh unterstützung zu holen

00:24:58,766 --> 00:25:01,066

zum beispiel auch von mentoni ähm

00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,600

die ein geot die ich ja schon erwähnt habe

00:25:04,533 --> 00:25:06,400

da werden frauen ganz gut gefördert

00:25:06,466 --> 00:25:07,866

auch nicht nur mit mentoring

00:25:07,933 --> 00:25:10,300

sondern auch mit unterschiedlichen ähm

00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:13,700

erfordern und da werden auch sehr viele

00:25:14,466 --> 00:25:17,266

experten und expertinnen jeden monat vorgestellt

00:25:17,366 --> 00:25:18,333

da gibt's workshop

00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:19,700

da gibt's wirklich sehr vieles

00:25:20,166 --> 00:25:21,766

wo man sich weiterbilden kann

00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,400

und

00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,766

und ganz viel praxis sammeln

00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:29,066

würde ich jetzt auch noch mal sagen

00:25:29,266 --> 00:25:30,866

weil ich zum beispiel oft in

00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,866

rechtsanwaltskanzlei gearbeitet habe

00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:35,533

dann aber in rechtsabteilungen

00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,100

und dann auch sogar mal

00:25:37,666 --> 00:25:38,933

nix mit recht zu tun hatte

00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,733

sondern im service mal gearbeitet habe

00:25:41,566 --> 00:25:44,100

und dann doch rechtliche themen bearbeitet habe

00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:45,100

irgendwie so

00:25:45,866 --> 00:25:48,400

und ganz viel ausprobieren und schauen was der liegt

00:25:48,466 --> 00:25:49,366

was der nicht liegt

00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,966

führungskräfte suchen

00:25:52,466 --> 00:25:53,266

die auch

00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:55,966

dich fördern und fordern und das halt auch selber

00:25:56,133 --> 00:25:57,466

einfordern für sich

00:25:57,500 --> 00:25:59,666

auch selber einstehen für die weiterentwicklung

00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,000

ja

00:26:03,866 --> 00:26:06,933

genau ich glaube das das war's erstmal also so

00:26:07,866 --> 00:26:11,266

im groben das das find ich find ich super ähm

00:26:12,866 --> 00:26:15,366

durchzieht alles was du heute gesagt hast

00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,866

suchen ähm mentorensuchen führungskräfte aussuchen

00:26:20,266 --> 00:26:22,000

find ich sehr spannend ähm

00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,133

genau seine karriere muss man irgendwie basteln

00:26:26,466 --> 00:26:27,866

und auch die mentoren

00:26:27,966 --> 00:26:29,300

es gibt bestimmt auch mal mentoren

00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,600

die zufällig auftauchen wenn jemand äh dich quasi

00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:34,733

entdeckt

00:26:34,733 --> 00:26:37,600

irgendwo auf auf arbeit oder wie auch immer und dann

00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:39,700

diese rolle übernehmen will

00:26:39,966 --> 00:26:41,766

da muss man aber schon ganz schön viel glück haben

00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,466

also ich find dein ansatz toll und

00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:47,066

ähm mentomie zum beispiel bietet es ja auch an

00:26:47,733 --> 00:26:49,166

dass man losgeht und sagt

00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:51,166

ich hab aktuell die herausforderung

00:26:51,766 --> 00:26:53,266

ich stell mir vor ähm

00:26:53,466 --> 00:26:55,700

den mentor oder die mentorin zu brauchen

00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:56,766

gibt's da jemanden

00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,366

und auch bei den führungskräften find ich auch ähm

00:27:01,366 --> 00:27:03,866

spannende ansicht und ähm

00:27:04,466 --> 00:27:05,766

und dieses aussuchen

00:27:06,066 --> 00:27:07,900

meinst du das findet man im interview raus

00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,766

wenn man noch gar nich in der firma is

00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,100

oder meinst du es geht eher

00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,133

wenn es n größtes corporate ähm

00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:16,200

company is wo man die quasi beobachten kann

00:27:16,266 --> 00:27:19,100

weil man die irgendwo in abteilung x mitbekommt

00:27:19,466 --> 00:27:20,366

wie die ähm

00:27:22,066 --> 00:27:23,000

wie die führen

00:27:23,366 --> 00:27:26,533

oder man kennt vielleicht mitarbeiter unter denen

00:27:26,533 --> 00:27:29,133

oder was genau meinst du mit führungskräfte aussuchen

00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:36,533

ähm ich mein meine letzte führungskraft zum beispiel

00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,700

ähm ich hab sie im vorstellungsgespräch gefragt

00:27:41,133 --> 00:27:41,933

also ich hab

00:27:42,666 --> 00:27:44,466

ich hab ihr zwei drei fragen gestellt

00:27:44,566 --> 00:27:45,866

also ganz smarte fragen

00:27:46,133 --> 00:27:49,366

die einfach die führungskraft komplett aus

00:27:49,966 --> 00:27:52,533

der komfortzone rausgeholt haben

00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,133

weils wirklich einzigartige fragen sind

00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,800

die bewerber sonst nicht

00:27:57,066 --> 00:27:57,866

nicht stellen

00:27:57,933 --> 00:27:59,166

ich weiß nicht mehr die fragen

00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,600

aus dem kopf ähm

00:28:02,866 --> 00:28:05,966

allerdings hab ich dann bei den antworten gemerkt

00:28:06,866 --> 00:28:07,666

wie

00:28:08,133 --> 00:28:10,500

wie viel empathie sie zum beispiel haben

00:28:11,366 --> 00:28:14,666

wie viel ähm was ihnen wichtig sind welche

00:28:14,866 --> 00:28:17,866

welche werte ihnen wichtig sind für was sie einstehen

00:28:18,933 --> 00:28:23,733

ähm was äh für sie äh priorität ist und was nicht

00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,200

ähm wie sie menschlich auch handeln

00:28:27,366 --> 00:28:28,500

auch persönlich handeln

00:28:28,666 --> 00:28:31,100

außerhalb von ihrer führungsposition

00:28:32,766 --> 00:28:33,566

ähm

00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,566

was ihnen wichtig ist auch für das team

00:28:37,933 --> 00:28:38,966

für die mitarbeiter

00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,766

und so weiter so ich hab sie quasi

00:28:42,966 --> 00:28:45,700

also ich hab meine letzte führungs hm

00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,900

führungskraft tatsächlich

00:28:48,166 --> 00:28:50,733

aus der komfortzone rausgeloggt und hab dann gemerkt

00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,100

okay also das ist jemand

00:28:52,366 --> 00:28:54,300

der fördert sehr gerne seine kinder

00:28:54,533 --> 00:28:55,333

hat auch noch

00:28:55,933 --> 00:29:00,966

ähm äh zusätzliche kinder adoptiert und ähm

00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,866

er möchte sich dafür einstehen

00:29:04,966 --> 00:29:07,966

dass auch seine mitarbeiter sich in den bereichen

00:29:08,166 --> 00:29:10,266

denen sie sich halt mh

00:29:11,466 --> 00:29:14,666

entwickeln wollen und in denen sie auch gut sind

00:29:14,933 --> 00:29:17,733

dass sie auch da ihre förder möglichkeiten bekommen

00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,566

und genau das hat sich dann auch durchgezogen

00:29:22,566 --> 00:29:24,766

und das hab ich dann auch immer wieder gemerkt

00:29:24,866 --> 00:29:26,566

dass ich mit ihm auch äh mit äh

00:29:26,733 --> 00:29:28,766

mit der führungskraft auch gesprochen habe

00:29:28,866 --> 00:29:29,733

immer wieder hab ich gemerkt

00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:30,700

okay

00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,900

ich darf auch für mich selber einstehen

00:29:32,966 --> 00:29:33,766

ich darf auch sagen

00:29:33,866 --> 00:29:35,766

ich möchte da und da gefördert werden

00:29:35,966 --> 00:29:37,466

ich brauche dich dort und dort

00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:40,766

ähm bitte sei auch für mich da und da

00:29:40,966 --> 00:29:42,866

damit ich das und das machen kann und so weiter

00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,800

also ich wurde auch

00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:46,966

mitgenommen in einem komplett neuen umfeld

00:29:47,133 --> 00:29:48,600

was mir bisher nicht bekannt war

00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,100

und hab mich sehr gut eingearbeitet

00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,800

und ich glaube wenn man schon

00:29:55,166 --> 00:29:57,466

im vorschlagsgespräch solche fragen stellt

00:29:57,566 --> 00:29:59,766

kann man auch sehr ein sehr gutes gefühl bekommen

00:30:00,766 --> 00:30:02,600

für die weitere zusammenarbeit

00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,400

und

00:30:04,866 --> 00:30:06,066

ich habe auch noch

00:30:07,266 --> 00:30:09,200

ähm auf der webseite

00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,400

von einem partner von mentor me

00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:14,566

hab ich auch gesehen dass sie äh

00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,100

die mentomie als förderprogramm nutzen und für ihre

00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:20,666

mitarbeiter auch anbieten

00:30:21,333 --> 00:30:23,733

das heißt also auch da wenn äh

00:30:23,766 --> 00:30:26,933

wenn ein unternehmen auf der webseite oder irgendwo ähm

00:30:27,666 --> 00:30:28,466

irgendwo anders

00:30:29,333 --> 00:30:30,766

äh für solche programme

00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:32,400

förderprogramme wirbt

00:30:32,533 --> 00:30:33,333

heißt es dann auch schon

00:30:33,366 --> 00:30:34,366

ihnen ist ähm

00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,500

die weiterentwicklung ihrer mitarbeiter auch wichtig

00:30:39,466 --> 00:30:42,566

und was ich noch gerne hinzufügen möchte ist

00:30:42,866 --> 00:30:45,466

dass ich auch alles selbst gemacht habe

00:30:45,533 --> 00:30:47,600

also keiner geht deinen weg selber

00:30:48,466 --> 00:30:50,366

das heißt du bist dafür

00:30:50,666 --> 00:30:52,300

du bist für dein leben zuständig

00:30:52,966 --> 00:30:55,500

äh und für das was passiert in deinem leben

00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:57,866

und ich hab tatsächlich

00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,366

ich dachte ich bekomme eine ablehnung

00:31:00,666 --> 00:31:02,900

aber ich hab tatsächlich mal mein tommy gefragt

00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:03,800

ob ich neben einem

00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:09,000

mentor noch einen weiteren mentor erhalten darf

00:31:09,866 --> 00:31:12,400

weil üblicherweise ist es halt so

00:31:12,466 --> 00:31:14,933

dass man halt nur einen mentor hat pro jahr

00:31:15,066 --> 00:31:15,866

und das war's

00:31:16,666 --> 00:31:19,366

und tatsächlich wurde ich dann nicht abgelehnt

00:31:19,533 --> 00:31:20,566

tatsächlich wurde er

00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:24,100

wurde ich eher dabei unterstützt

00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,666

einen weiteren mentor zu finden

00:31:25,966 --> 00:31:27,466

der zu mir passt und

00:31:28,266 --> 00:31:29,466

fast alle vier jahre

00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:33,166

da hatte ich jeweils zwei mentoren an meiner seite

00:31:33,566 --> 00:31:35,966

weil ich genau diesen push gebraucht habe

00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:38,966

und wenn du vorankommen möchtest

00:31:39,166 --> 00:31:41,600

wenn du wirklich dich weiterentwickeln möchtest

00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:44,400

dann ist das auch wirklich ähm

00:31:44,933 --> 00:31:45,900

sehr viel wert

00:31:47,533 --> 00:31:48,933

mittlerweile bist du ja sogar

00:31:49,266 --> 00:31:50,900

aktiv im community management

00:31:51,666 --> 00:31:53,133

ähm von mentor me

00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,200

ähm auch ganz toll

00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:56,800

also wenn ihr fragen zu mentomie habt

00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,766

könnt ihr euch auch an brody slava wenden oder

00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,366

oder was genau machst du dann noch

00:32:00,666 --> 00:32:02,733

ich hab's nicht aufm schirm du machst ja ganz viel

00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,300

ähm vielleicht für die zuhörerin äh noch mal kurz

00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:09,500

genau also ich bin einmal menti

00:32:10,166 --> 00:32:13,666

dann äh community lied von it und text tatsächlich

00:32:13,966 --> 00:32:16,266

also da war auch ne ähm stelle frei

00:32:16,333 --> 00:32:18,400

da hab ich mich auch proaktiv dafür beworben

00:32:19,466 --> 00:32:22,466

und äh in dieser community äh

00:32:22,733 --> 00:32:26,166

stellen wir jeden monat experten zur verfügung äh

00:32:26,366 --> 00:32:27,166

zeigen

00:32:27,266 --> 00:32:30,733

unterschiedliche it themen auf äh geben mehr wissen

00:32:31,666 --> 00:32:32,466

ähm

00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:34,400

weiter und verbinden

00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,300

vernetzen auch die frauen untereinander

00:32:38,133 --> 00:32:41,100

die experten auch mit den mitgliedern und so weiter

00:32:41,966 --> 00:32:44,066

also dafür bin ich zuständig für die

00:32:44,933 --> 00:32:45,500

ähm

00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,066

für die erstellung von den unterschiedlichen events

00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:49,100

äh jeden monat

00:32:49,933 --> 00:32:52,566

und ganz bald auch als mentorin tatsächlich

00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,366

aber ich muss dir auch sagen ich hab

00:32:54,733 --> 00:32:55,766

es gibt keine werbung

00:32:57,166 --> 00:32:59,533

mit mentor mir also das ist dann tatsächlich ähm

00:33:00,166 --> 00:33:03,733

das was äh ich äh fühle und das ist meine erfahrung

00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,000

also meinte mir hat mich jetzt dafür nicht bezahlt

00:33:06,133 --> 00:33:08,200

um hier so viel davon zu erzählen

00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:14,333

ja wir sind werbefrei und ähm is n ganz tolles ngo

00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,133

ich war ja auch einmal zu gast äh

00:33:16,166 --> 00:33:17,666

durfte auch n kurzen vortrag halten

00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:21,666

noch mal dafür find's ganz toll ähm ganz toller verein

00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,300

und danke dass du da so aktiv bist

00:33:25,266 --> 00:33:27,100

ähm genau bei dir ist ja spannend

00:33:27,133 --> 00:33:29,100

du warst ähm eine women in

00:33:29,533 --> 00:33:32,600

in law oder women in liege und bis jetzt

00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:37,566

so mit ein oder anderthalb füßen als äh women in it

00:33:37,733 --> 00:33:39,100

women in tech gelandet

00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:41,300

ähm

00:33:42,166 --> 00:33:44,200

wie war das eine und wie ist das andere

00:33:44,466 --> 00:33:46,166

wo fühlst du dich am wohlsten

00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,566

ich glaub ich weiß schon die antwort

00:33:48,733 --> 00:33:50,066

aber noch mal von dir

00:33:51,766 --> 00:33:53,766

und die antwort will ich dann aber bitte hören

00:33:55,766 --> 00:33:56,566

ähm

00:33:57,366 --> 00:33:58,166

ich

00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:00,400

um ehrlich zu sein

00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:08,366

entweder in der mitte von beiden

00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:11,333

oder mehr in im liegelbereich

00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:13,300

ähm

00:34:14,133 --> 00:34:15,400

womann in it

00:34:16,533 --> 00:34:19,300

ich weiß nicht ich glaube mich sehen sehr viele da

00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:22,100

ich glaube meine wahrnehmung

00:34:22,166 --> 00:34:24,333

meine eigene wahrnehmung ist eine andere

00:34:24,566 --> 00:34:26,266

als die fremdwahrnehmung

00:34:26,533 --> 00:34:27,333

und viele frauen

00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:29,166

sehen mich als vorbild

00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:31,366

ah in diesem bereich

00:34:31,966 --> 00:34:35,300

ist sie mich aber tatsächlich viel mehr in liegel

00:34:36,133 --> 00:34:37,900

wenn ich mich jetzt entscheiden müsste

00:34:38,766 --> 00:34:39,933

im liegelbereich

00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:45,166

okay spannend

00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:49,400

mh ich hab auch eher gedacht so in der mitte

00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:52,800

weil du alles willst du willst schnee und und sommer

00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,966

dachte ich okay aber spannend

00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:57,366

aber ja du brauchst ja du brauchst ja die brille ähm

00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:02,166

das mehr complaints und legal in dir als als tech

00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:04,766

aber du bist dann quasi auch die brückenbauerin zu

00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:06,333

zu legal und tech

00:35:06,566 --> 00:35:08,533

und du hast ja auch viele startup kunden gell

00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:10,800

die haben da wahrscheinlich gar nicht so viel lust

00:35:10,933 --> 00:35:11,900

immer auf complaints

00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,000

und ähm

00:35:13,733 --> 00:35:14,533

ähm

00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,800

data protection und äh

00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,200

gdpr und so weiter

00:35:20,466 --> 00:35:21,666

aber dafür haben die ja dich

00:35:21,733 --> 00:35:24,300

also is eigentlich dann n toller match gell

00:35:24,766 --> 00:35:28,666

die ähm die sprudeln den startup aber

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und ähm du die du den die du denen hilfst

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dass sie sich nicht verrennen was datenschutz angeht

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oder ähm

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auch die die daten der kunden nicht

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nicht komisch behandeln also eigentlich

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ein perfektes win win

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also super dass es dich gibt

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super dass du da auch immer tiefer reingehst

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und auch die die startups davor bewahrst

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das ist echt absolut cool

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ähm

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genau wir nähern uns dem ende

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ähm doch schon viel gespoilert was du

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jungen mädchen oder frauen

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ähm die überlegen in die it zu gehen

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oder vielleicht aktuell vielleicht so

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ganz was anderes machen

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und vielleicht kereinsteigerin werden wollen

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aber vielleicht hast du noch so n so n letzten gruß

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n letzten ähm

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rat an an mädchen und frauen

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der letzte rat

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ich würd tatsächlich sagen

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sehr viel ne hilfe und unterstützung fragen

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ich glaub ähm

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und man kann auch die eigenen eltern fragen

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ähm wobei meine eltern also

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sind äh

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kennen sich einfach in dem bereich nicht so gut aus

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das war dann leider schade

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und in meinem privaten umfeld

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halt auch nur die männlichen freunde

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und da konnte ich auch irgendwie nach

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wusste ich nicht wie ich die unterstützung holen sollte

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aber ich glaube man ist äh ganz gut aufgehoben

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in solchen vereinen ähm wo die mädchen

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wo die frauen unterstützt werden

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und dort muss man auch nicht unbedingt wissen was man

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machen möchte

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wohin die reise gehen soll

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man kann auch mal

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in einer unsicheren phase sein und sich

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vieles mal anschauen

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und äh vor allem finde ich

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dass dort auch ein safe space ist

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also alles was besprochen wird alles was

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ähm

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ja alle informationen ähm alle gefühle

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emotionen weil das ist halt schon manchmal schwierig äh

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in einem männerlastigen

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bereich zu arbeiten oder generell da reinzukommen

00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,000

auch das kann echt emotional sein

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ich glaube

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da sind mädchen und frauen ganz gut aufgehoben

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um einen selbstbase

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zu haben und immer wieder zurückzukehren und

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eine basis zu haben

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in der man sich gegenseitig fördert und in der du

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persönlich auch gefördert wirst

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vielen dank für das schlusswort

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ähm schön dass du da warst

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und bis ganz bald

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danke für die einladung

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bis bald