1 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,920 Matt Edmundson: Welcome to this week's Crowd Church service. 2 00:00:18,370 --> 00:00:22,280 We are a digital church on a quest to discover how Jesus helps 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,970 us live a more meaningful life. 4 00:00:25,259 --> 00:00:29,619 We are a community, a space to explore the Christian faith and a place 5 00:00:29,619 --> 00:00:31,409 where you can contribute and grow. 6 00:00:31,410 --> 00:00:37,340 I want to invite you to connect with us here at Crowd Church and there are 7 00:00:37,340 --> 00:00:40,529 a few ways that you can do just that. 8 00:00:40,850 --> 00:00:45,955 Firstly, you can engage with Crowd from any device during our live stream. 9 00:00:46,435 --> 00:00:50,155 And if you're up for it, why not invite a few friends over and 10 00:00:50,155 --> 00:00:52,415 experience the service together. 11 00:00:52,735 --> 00:00:57,515 Church is all about connecting with God and connecting with others. 12 00:00:57,515 --> 00:01:02,125 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church forward slash next for more details. 24 00:01:53,615 --> 00:01:58,634 And now, the moment you've been waiting for is here, our online 25 00:01:58,644 --> 00:02:01,064 church service starts right now. 26 00:02:01,065 --> 00:02:03,314 Hello, 27 00:02:06,575 --> 00:02:12,835 Dan Orange: sorry, I just put my phone on do not disturb so we don't get any calls. 28 00:02:14,085 --> 00:02:14,225 I'm 29 00:02:14,225 --> 00:02:16,235 Anna Kettle: literally like nudging Dan like you're live. 30 00:02:17,314 --> 00:02:17,994 Slick start. 31 00:02:18,005 --> 00:02:18,385 Slick. 32 00:02:18,425 --> 00:02:19,065 Come on guys, 33 00:02:19,364 --> 00:02:19,755 Dan Orange: come on. 34 00:02:19,795 --> 00:02:20,535 Very slick. 35 00:02:20,924 --> 00:02:23,094 I thought someone's going to text me or ring right in the 36 00:02:23,094 --> 00:02:24,729 middle of a crucial moment. 37 00:02:24,729 --> 00:02:26,484 Yeah, you don't want that. 38 00:02:26,484 --> 00:02:26,554 No. 39 00:02:27,454 --> 00:02:28,824 Anna Kettle: You don't want that, definitely not. 40 00:02:29,924 --> 00:02:33,534 So how are you Dan, apart from being a little bit winging out there? 41 00:02:33,804 --> 00:02:35,604 Dan Orange: Yes so we're on Instagram. 42 00:02:35,864 --> 00:02:37,454 Anna Kettle: Yeah, this is exciting. 43 00:02:37,574 --> 00:02:41,214 Dan Orange: Yeah, which means I have to press buttons a lot and switch between. 44 00:02:41,404 --> 00:02:43,684 Anna Kettle: So if Dan looks like he's concentrating extra hard, 45 00:02:43,724 --> 00:02:45,114 that's because he actually is. 46 00:02:45,674 --> 00:02:46,789 Dan Orange: Which camera? 47 00:02:47,309 --> 00:02:48,989 Anna Kettle: I know, which camera, where do we look? 48 00:02:49,049 --> 00:02:52,879 So he's doing all the tech and flipping between images for Insta, 49 00:02:53,319 --> 00:02:57,019 and I just sit here and talk like normal, so I get the good job. 50 00:02:58,619 --> 00:02:59,839 So what have you been up to Dan? 51 00:02:59,889 --> 00:03:01,549 What have you been up to this weekend? 52 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:02,809 Dan Orange: Not much. 53 00:03:03,244 --> 00:03:06,844 Not much that's not true, sorting, which I think we're going to talk to you. 54 00:03:06,894 --> 00:03:08,224 Anna Kettle: It's that time of year, isn't it? 55 00:03:08,454 --> 00:03:12,715 Like that April, May, getting ready for summer, coming out winter sort. 56 00:03:12,765 --> 00:03:14,435 I've been sorting this weekend as well. 57 00:03:14,725 --> 00:03:17,495 We've sorted out the garden, we've started to, we've sorted out 58 00:03:17,505 --> 00:03:19,995 the garage, bit of a clear out. 59 00:03:20,055 --> 00:03:23,545 Dan Orange: Yeah, we've been doing paperwork, all fun things. 60 00:03:23,895 --> 00:03:25,195 Oh yeah, we're so rock 61 00:03:25,195 --> 00:03:26,515 Anna Kettle: and roll here at Crowd Church. 62 00:03:27,045 --> 00:03:29,585 I did go to a gig on Friday night though offset it with that. 63 00:03:29,645 --> 00:03:30,714 Yeah, that was nice. 64 00:03:30,715 --> 00:03:32,595 Yeah, but no, yeah, it's 65 00:03:32,845 --> 00:03:34,305 Dan Orange: I saw that on Instagram. 66 00:03:34,305 --> 00:03:34,464 Yeah. 67 00:03:34,465 --> 00:03:35,141 Yeah, I'd like to have gone. 68 00:03:35,141 --> 00:03:36,131 Anna Kettle: Yeah, it was good. 69 00:03:36,191 --> 00:03:37,731 zuTons, if anyone's interested. 70 00:03:37,731 --> 00:03:39,211 It was good gig on Friday night. 71 00:03:39,771 --> 00:03:42,011 And today has been a nice sunny day. 72 00:03:42,021 --> 00:03:44,231 So we've, what have you been up to today? 73 00:03:44,241 --> 00:03:45,391 Have you been out in the sunshine at all? 74 00:03:45,481 --> 00:03:45,871 Dan Orange: Aye. 75 00:03:46,766 --> 00:03:49,446 Haven't done I've enjoyed the sunshine from the window 76 00:03:50,246 --> 00:03:52,956 Anna Kettle: It's the best place to enjoy it because it's still a little 77 00:03:52,956 --> 00:03:56,616 bit windy at least in Liverpool where we're broadcasting from other 78 00:03:56,616 --> 00:04:00,776 people might be different, but it feels like We're still waiting for 79 00:04:00,786 --> 00:04:02,596 spring to really get going here. 80 00:04:02,816 --> 00:04:04,286 It's like sunny but cold. 81 00:04:04,286 --> 00:04:04,456 Yeah, 82 00:04:04,496 --> 00:04:06,426 Dan Orange: we've got sun so it's a start. 83 00:04:06,426 --> 00:04:07,926 It's not raining every day. 84 00:04:07,926 --> 00:04:09,776 Yeah anymore, which is very good. 85 00:04:09,966 --> 00:04:10,186 Anna Kettle: Yeah, 86 00:04:10,236 --> 00:04:11,086 Dan Orange: We just need a bit of heat 87 00:04:11,156 --> 00:04:12,046 Anna Kettle: Yeah, definitely. 88 00:04:12,356 --> 00:04:13,856 We did get out this afternoon. 89 00:04:13,916 --> 00:04:16,726 We went out to a local park with some friends. 90 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:19,276 We went for lunch and went to the park after church. 91 00:04:19,356 --> 00:04:21,256 And it was nice. 92 00:04:21,296 --> 00:04:26,036 It was like mediocrely warm, but yeah, nice to have a little 93 00:04:26,036 --> 00:04:28,056 bit of sun, but a bit cold. 94 00:04:28,896 --> 00:04:30,205 Anyway, that was our weather report. 95 00:04:30,205 --> 00:04:30,609 That was 96 00:04:30,609 --> 00:04:31,216 Dan Orange: our weather report. 97 00:04:31,216 --> 00:04:31,996 Onto Crowd Church. 98 00:04:32,526 --> 00:04:33,236 This week. 99 00:04:33,806 --> 00:04:34,376 We talk about 100 00:04:34,426 --> 00:04:35,016 Anna Kettle: peace. 101 00:04:35,016 --> 00:04:35,586 That is 102 00:04:35,586 --> 00:04:36,346 Dan Orange: a good subject. 103 00:04:36,356 --> 00:04:39,046 So still on our series, Fruits of the Spirit. 104 00:04:39,676 --> 00:04:42,856 And one of those fruits, one of those gifts from God is peace, 105 00:04:42,926 --> 00:04:46,506 which is we'll find out more, but it's a challenge, isn't it? 106 00:04:46,566 --> 00:04:48,676 Anna Kettle: Yeah, peace, I feel like it's something that 107 00:04:48,846 --> 00:04:50,466 everybody's looking for right now. 108 00:04:50,656 --> 00:04:53,806 It doesn't feel like the world is a very peaceful place at the moment. 109 00:04:53,946 --> 00:04:58,006 So I'm really keen to, to hear this talk, which we've got 110 00:04:58,026 --> 00:04:59,486 coming up from Pete Farrington. 111 00:05:00,366 --> 00:05:01,686 Dan Orange: Yeah yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. 112 00:05:01,686 --> 00:05:04,896 I'm listening to a book at the moment Matthew Perry from 113 00:05:04,896 --> 00:05:05,556 Friends, Chandler from Friends. 114 00:05:05,686 --> 00:05:06,306 Oh, I've read, 115 00:05:06,426 --> 00:05:07,216 Anna Kettle: yeah, I've read that. 116 00:05:07,276 --> 00:05:07,596 Yeah. 117 00:05:07,626 --> 00:05:08,756 His autobiography. 118 00:05:08,766 --> 00:05:10,046 It's really interesting. 119 00:05:10,166 --> 00:05:13,156 Dan Orange: And it's a search from the first few chapters 120 00:05:13,266 --> 00:05:14,756 it's a search for peace. 121 00:05:14,946 --> 00:05:16,216 It really is. 122 00:05:16,306 --> 00:05:17,776 Anna Kettle: Yeah, I recommend it. 123 00:05:17,776 --> 00:05:18,846 It's really interesting. 124 00:05:18,846 --> 00:05:23,846 I think he makes his piece over time, but goes through quite a lot of addiction 125 00:05:23,846 --> 00:05:28,426 and stuff and kind of obviously rich, famous, everything in the world can 126 00:05:28,426 --> 00:05:32,966 possibly throw at you and still really struggles through life and struggles to 127 00:05:32,976 --> 00:05:37,386 find that peace outside of having that spiritual connection with God, which I 128 00:05:37,396 --> 00:05:40,226 think he does touch on winding up points. 129 00:05:40,296 --> 00:05:42,376 Dan Orange: One thing he says right at the beginning is. 130 00:05:43,271 --> 00:05:46,961 There's a massive hole in my life, which I tried to fill with material things, 131 00:05:47,371 --> 00:05:49,531 and this big, huge material hole. 132 00:05:49,591 --> 00:05:54,201 And then he says, perhaps it was a spiritual hole, not a material hole. 133 00:05:54,781 --> 00:05:55,681 That's very interesting. 134 00:05:55,691 --> 00:05:56,291 Yeah. 135 00:05:56,401 --> 00:05:56,771 Yeah. 136 00:05:56,771 --> 00:05:57,924 Let's see 137 00:05:57,924 --> 00:05:59,191 Anna Kettle: what Pete's got to say. 138 00:05:59,191 --> 00:06:00,641 And then we'll come back to that discussion. 139 00:06:00,671 --> 00:06:01,011 Dan Orange: Yeah. 140 00:06:01,281 --> 00:06:05,321 Any questions to please just yeah, anywhere, Instagram, 141 00:06:05,581 --> 00:06:07,531 YouTube, Facebook, just post them. 142 00:06:07,531 --> 00:06:10,531 And we'd love to answer them afterwards, but here's Pete. 143 00:06:13,986 --> 00:06:17,876 Pete Farrington: What is unshakable peace and how can I attain it? 144 00:06:18,826 --> 00:06:20,766 That's what we're going to be exploring a bit today. 145 00:06:21,286 --> 00:06:24,896 But I want to say at the top that something we have to be aware of is 146 00:06:24,916 --> 00:06:29,976 that the world does not always use words in the same way that the Bible does. 147 00:06:30,796 --> 00:06:34,611 We at times might use the same vocabulary, but we've got different 148 00:06:34,811 --> 00:06:37,361 dictionaries with different definitions. 149 00:06:37,981 --> 00:06:42,201 So when the world talks about peace, at least in terms of internal peace, 150 00:06:42,691 --> 00:06:45,381 it's often really referring to an emotional state that's brought 151 00:06:45,461 --> 00:06:48,521 about by preferable circumstances. 152 00:06:48,821 --> 00:06:53,231 So a life that's free of adversity, lack and suffering. 153 00:06:54,201 --> 00:06:58,831 A life with enough safety nets, buffers, insurance, security 154 00:06:58,831 --> 00:07:00,031 cameras and backup plans. 155 00:07:01,061 --> 00:07:05,661 And so peace increases the further away you are from harm and trouble. 156 00:07:06,771 --> 00:07:09,731 But where the world's version of peace is something that comes from having 157 00:07:09,761 --> 00:07:15,971 desirable circumstances, the peace God gives comes in spite of our circumstances. 158 00:07:17,021 --> 00:07:20,481 We see this laid out for us clearly in Philippians 4 where 159 00:07:20,491 --> 00:07:23,291 Paul says, The Lord is at hand. 160 00:07:23,881 --> 00:07:25,991 Do not be anxious about anything. 161 00:07:26,581 --> 00:07:30,361 But in everything, by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, 162 00:07:30,611 --> 00:07:33,601 let your heart, let your requests be made known to God. 163 00:07:34,541 --> 00:07:39,431 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your 164 00:07:39,441 --> 00:07:42,091 hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. 165 00:07:43,891 --> 00:07:48,131 So peace may not be what we would naturally consider the appropriate 166 00:07:48,531 --> 00:07:51,321 or expected response to what we see. 167 00:07:53,521 --> 00:07:55,251 We'll come back to that passage later. 168 00:07:55,971 --> 00:07:59,431 But how often have you searched for peace in places that only 169 00:07:59,431 --> 00:08:01,311 provided temporary relief? 170 00:08:02,031 --> 00:08:05,231 Because there is a lot of temporary relief that you can find in the world. 171 00:08:05,781 --> 00:08:10,411 You can do a lot to put distance, often, at least temporarily, between yourself 172 00:08:10,461 --> 00:08:12,841 and the cause of your fear and anxiety. 173 00:08:13,621 --> 00:08:18,171 Like even the algorithms on social media are designed in a way to just 174 00:08:18,171 --> 00:08:19,731 keep giving you more of what you want. 175 00:08:20,426 --> 00:08:24,356 More of what's comfortable for you to see and to remove any challenges 176 00:08:24,376 --> 00:08:25,576 to the beliefs that you hold. 177 00:08:25,576 --> 00:08:29,906 And, so people get further entrenched in the dogmas that they hold to. 178 00:08:30,946 --> 00:08:34,876 And we hear a lot these days about creating safe spaces, which at times can 179 00:08:34,876 --> 00:08:39,806 really become spaces where you're just not exposed to anything that opposes what you 180 00:08:39,806 --> 00:08:42,366 believe or could be potentially offensive. 181 00:08:43,391 --> 00:08:46,701 And people talk a lot about setting boundaries and of course there are 182 00:08:46,881 --> 00:08:51,601 common sense things that we should do to protect ourselves and others. 183 00:08:52,471 --> 00:08:56,031 And there are things we can do to reduce chaos and panic in life. 184 00:08:56,301 --> 00:09:00,661 But what I'm trying to get at is that we have access to every tool and 185 00:09:00,661 --> 00:09:02,691 technique that man's ever come up with. 186 00:09:03,701 --> 00:09:07,161 And yet we don't actually seem to be becoming a more peaceful people. 187 00:09:07,681 --> 00:09:10,771 We haven't really come up with a permanent lasting solution. 188 00:09:11,856 --> 00:09:16,396 I think it's interesting how many things that you can buy to, to help you relax, 189 00:09:16,396 --> 00:09:20,886 like zen gardens and colouring books for adults and books about mindfulness. 190 00:09:21,576 --> 00:09:25,276 But with all of the formulas and techniques that we've got, we only 191 00:09:25,276 --> 00:09:27,206 seem to be becoming more anxious. 192 00:09:28,676 --> 00:09:31,086 And of course, one method that I think we all turn to at times 193 00:09:31,086 --> 00:09:33,056 is distraction and avoidance. 194 00:09:33,686 --> 00:09:37,591 We can use entertainment, hobbies, and social media as a means to 195 00:09:37,591 --> 00:09:40,311 escape from troubles and find peace. 196 00:09:41,851 --> 00:09:46,321 And we can really go a long time without unplugging, switching off and just 197 00:09:46,331 --> 00:09:48,651 being alone with our own thoughts. 198 00:09:49,441 --> 00:09:52,961 I read something quite insightful about this recently by a guy called 199 00:09:53,051 --> 00:09:55,561 Tony Reinke, I think his name is. 200 00:09:56,021 --> 00:09:59,081 The smartphone is causing a social reversal. 201 00:09:59,651 --> 00:10:04,031 The desire to be alone in public and never alone in seclusion. 202 00:10:05,711 --> 00:10:09,941 He was piggybacking on something that the German theologian Dietrich 203 00:10:10,001 --> 00:10:12,951 Bonhoeffer had said in the 1920s. 204 00:10:14,051 --> 00:10:19,511 He said, we flee silence, we race from activity to avoid having to be alone with 205 00:10:19,511 --> 00:10:23,971 ourselves for even a moment, to avoid having to look at ourselves in the mirror. 206 00:10:24,721 --> 00:10:26,331 My goodness, I wonder what he'd say today. 207 00:10:27,041 --> 00:10:31,801 He also said this, Not only are we afraid of ourselves, of discovering and 208 00:10:31,831 --> 00:10:37,151 unmasking ourselves, but even more we are afraid of God, that he might disturb 209 00:10:37,411 --> 00:10:43,101 our aloneness and discover and unmask us, that God might draw us into partnership 210 00:10:43,481 --> 00:10:45,001 and do with us whatever he wants. 211 00:10:45,641 --> 00:10:49,881 Because we fear such unnerving, lonely encounters with God, we avoid them. 212 00:10:50,466 --> 00:10:53,806 Avoid even the thought of God, lest he suddenly get too close to us. 213 00:10:55,226 --> 00:10:58,806 Suddenly having to look into God's eyes, having to be accountable 214 00:10:58,806 --> 00:11:01,226 before him, is too dreadful a notion. 215 00:11:01,616 --> 00:11:03,476 Our perpetual smile might fade. 216 00:11:03,826 --> 00:11:08,186 Things might get completely serious in a way to which we are not at all accustomed. 217 00:11:09,376 --> 00:11:13,366 He said this anxiety characterizes our entire age. 218 00:11:13,646 --> 00:11:17,736 We live in perpetual fear of suddenly being seized and 219 00:11:17,756 --> 00:11:19,376 called to task by the infinite. 220 00:11:19,801 --> 00:11:23,531 and would rather socialise or go to the movies or theatre until we 221 00:11:23,531 --> 00:11:25,061 are finally carried to our grave. 222 00:11:25,621 --> 00:11:29,171 Anything, rather than having to bear a single minute before God. 223 00:11:30,311 --> 00:11:32,791 He penned those words almost 100 years ago. 224 00:11:33,221 --> 00:11:37,021 But even back then, Bonhoeffer saw through the veneer and the mask that 225 00:11:37,021 --> 00:11:41,211 we try and hide behind to avoid facing the things that really trouble us and 226 00:11:41,211 --> 00:11:43,741 expose just how fragile our peace is. 227 00:11:46,131 --> 00:11:51,101 Now, when Jesus was at the Last Supper with his disciples, shortly before 228 00:11:51,551 --> 00:11:57,661 his crucifixion, he said this, Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you. 229 00:11:58,241 --> 00:12:00,331 Not as the world gives, do I give to you. 230 00:12:01,051 --> 00:12:04,741 Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid. 231 00:12:05,851 --> 00:12:09,441 So what does his peace look like and how is it different to ours? 232 00:12:09,831 --> 00:12:14,441 Because he carefully described peace, the peace he was giving as my peace. 233 00:12:15,736 --> 00:12:19,036 And Jesus there was going far beyond what was what was 234 00:12:19,036 --> 00:12:20,776 customary to say when departing. 235 00:12:21,816 --> 00:12:23,686 He said, my peace I give to you. 236 00:12:24,936 --> 00:12:28,526 I read this in a commentary in the Bible, the word for peace, Shalom. 237 00:12:28,586 --> 00:12:30,686 It never means simply the absence of trouble. 238 00:12:31,036 --> 00:12:33,466 It means everything which makes for our highest good. 239 00:12:34,166 --> 00:12:36,896 The peace which the world offers is the peace of escape. 240 00:12:37,706 --> 00:12:40,176 The peace which comes from the avoidance of trouble and 241 00:12:40,186 --> 00:12:41,826 from refusing to face things. 242 00:12:43,171 --> 00:12:45,661 The piece that I'm talking about today is not something you can 243 00:12:45,661 --> 00:12:46,991 achieve with a new practice. 244 00:12:47,661 --> 00:12:50,571 It's what comes only from knowing a person. 245 00:12:51,371 --> 00:12:54,951 And this kind of peace is not the result of carefully curating your life. 246 00:12:55,111 --> 00:12:56,571 It's a fruit of the Spirit. 247 00:12:57,661 --> 00:12:59,621 So let's go back to that passage in Philippians. 248 00:13:00,001 --> 00:13:01,951 Philippians 4, verses 3 to 6. 249 00:13:02,031 --> 00:13:03,791 The Lord is at hand. 250 00:13:04,381 --> 00:13:06,061 Do not be anxious about anything. 251 00:13:06,581 --> 00:13:10,756 But in everything, by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let 252 00:13:10,756 --> 00:13:15,216 your requests be made known to God and the peace of God which surpasses 253 00:13:15,276 --> 00:13:19,116 all understanding will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. 254 00:13:19,776 --> 00:13:22,436 So we're commanded, don't be anxious. 255 00:13:22,936 --> 00:13:24,246 Okay, yeah, thanks Paul. 256 00:13:24,256 --> 00:13:24,986 I'll just stop. 257 00:13:24,996 --> 00:13:26,116 I'll just stop being anxious. 258 00:13:26,216 --> 00:13:27,516 I don't know why I hadn't thought of that. 259 00:13:28,496 --> 00:13:33,846 But this command is qualified by the preceding phrase, the Lord is at hand. 260 00:13:35,056 --> 00:13:36,626 So how can I attain this peace? 261 00:13:36,746 --> 00:13:39,396 The Well, peace doesn't come from a new practice. 262 00:13:39,396 --> 00:13:42,286 It comes from knowing a person. 263 00:13:43,706 --> 00:13:45,866 And I'm really not a fan of alliteration. 264 00:13:45,876 --> 00:13:47,236 I think it's the cheesiest thing ever. 265 00:13:47,786 --> 00:13:49,486 Oh, it makes me nauseous. 266 00:13:49,536 --> 00:13:54,956 But it came to me, so I'm doing it today. 267 00:13:54,956 --> 00:13:56,526 I have three P's, okay? 268 00:13:57,066 --> 00:14:00,926 Peace is a person, it's a promise, and a position. 269 00:14:01,616 --> 00:14:03,966 So for the rest of this talk, I'm going to unpack that a little bit. 270 00:14:05,106 --> 00:14:06,346 So peace is a person. 271 00:14:06,376 --> 00:14:10,146 I want to take us, I want to take us to a prophecy in the Old 272 00:14:10,146 --> 00:14:11,886 Testament in the book of Isaiah. 273 00:14:11,906 --> 00:14:14,396 This is a prophecy about Jesus. 274 00:14:15,686 --> 00:14:21,466 Isaiah 9 verse 6 says, For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, 275 00:14:22,176 --> 00:14:26,176 and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called 276 00:14:26,306 --> 00:14:32,456 Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 277 00:14:33,276 --> 00:14:34,556 Peace is a person. 278 00:14:35,746 --> 00:14:37,476 But let's go back a couple of chapters. 279 00:14:37,496 --> 00:14:41,256 In Isaiah 7, there is another prophecy there are many in Isaiah, but there's 280 00:14:41,256 --> 00:14:43,536 another prophecy in Isaiah 7 about Jesus. 281 00:14:44,846 --> 00:14:48,906 This chapter tells us about it also tells us about a guy called Ahaz, who 282 00:14:48,906 --> 00:14:52,446 was the king of Judah at the time, a bad king, like most of them were. 283 00:14:52,976 --> 00:14:56,086 There were two nations waging war against Ahaz. 284 00:14:57,016 --> 00:15:00,866 And in verse one, it says, In the days of Ahaz, the son of Jotham, son 285 00:15:00,866 --> 00:15:07,406 of Uzziah, king of Judah, Rezin, the king of Syria, and Pekah, the son of 286 00:15:07,436 --> 00:15:11,496 Remalia, the king of Israel, came up to Jerusalem to wage war against it. 287 00:15:12,781 --> 00:15:16,461 In verse two, we're told that the heart of Ahaz and the heart of 288 00:15:16,461 --> 00:15:20,911 his people shook as the trees of the forest shake before the wind. 289 00:15:21,851 --> 00:15:25,291 Have you ever felt like your peace is fragile, easily shattered 290 00:15:25,341 --> 00:15:26,551 by the slightest troubles? 291 00:15:27,161 --> 00:15:31,861 In verse four, God then speaks to the prophet Isaiah and tells him 292 00:15:31,861 --> 00:15:39,241 to go to King Ahaz and say, be careful, be quiet, do not fear. 293 00:15:39,741 --> 00:15:43,251 And do not let your heart be faint because of these two smouldering 294 00:15:43,261 --> 00:15:47,261 stumps of firebrands, those two kings, at the fierce anger of Resin 295 00:15:47,861 --> 00:15:50,161 and Syria and the son of Remalia. 296 00:15:51,181 --> 00:15:56,991 Then verses 10 through 12, it says again, the Lord spoke to Ahaz, Ask a 297 00:15:56,991 --> 00:16:02,731 sign of the Lord your God, let it be as deep as Sheol or high as heaven. 298 00:16:03,811 --> 00:16:07,961 But Ahaz said, I will not ask and I will not put the Lord to the test. 299 00:16:08,576 --> 00:16:12,316 So God speaks to Ahaz through the Prophet Isaiah, challenging him to 300 00:16:12,336 --> 00:16:14,506 ask the Lord for a sign of his help. 301 00:16:15,216 --> 00:16:18,906 And under the guise of humility, it was really false humility, 302 00:16:19,216 --> 00:16:20,926 Ahaz declined saying no. 303 00:16:20,936 --> 00:16:22,786 I couldn't put the Lord to the test. 304 00:16:22,786 --> 00:16:23,386 I won't do that. 305 00:16:24,116 --> 00:16:26,896 But he's really just saying this because he'd already determined 306 00:16:27,026 --> 00:16:30,346 in his heart to seek help from the king of Assyria instead. 307 00:16:32,686 --> 00:16:36,576 And then verses 13 through 14. 308 00:16:37,141 --> 00:16:42,191 It says, Here then, O House of David, is it too little for you to weary 309 00:16:42,191 --> 00:16:44,241 men that you weary my God also? 310 00:16:44,611 --> 00:16:46,321 This is the Prophet Isaiah speaking. 311 00:16:46,941 --> 00:16:50,481 Therefore, the Lord himself will give you a sign. 312 00:16:51,161 --> 00:16:57,961 Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son and shall call his name Immanuel. 313 00:16:58,621 --> 00:16:59,961 That means God with us. 314 00:17:01,871 --> 00:17:04,031 And it's like God was challenging Ahaz. 315 00:17:04,546 --> 00:17:08,146 Go on Ahaz, what's the biggest sign that you could request of me? 316 00:17:08,826 --> 00:17:10,716 What would convince you once and for all? 317 00:17:11,336 --> 00:17:13,186 What would quell your fears for good? 318 00:17:15,306 --> 00:17:19,696 Ahaz then declines and God gives him the sign, Emmanuel. 319 00:17:19,766 --> 00:17:22,536 The sign he gave is Emmanuel, God with us. 320 00:17:23,001 --> 00:17:28,311 The sign is God himself with us and you could make a request as deep as 321 00:17:28,321 --> 00:17:33,011 Sheol or high as the heavens and God has still trumped it and out given 322 00:17:33,011 --> 00:17:35,351 your request when he gave us himself. 323 00:17:36,361 --> 00:17:42,361 And how the preposition with should come between the words God and us is 324 00:17:42,361 --> 00:17:44,751 the mystery and the wonder of the ages. 325 00:17:45,331 --> 00:17:46,611 God with us. 326 00:17:47,001 --> 00:17:51,061 Or like we read in Philippians, the Lord is at hand. 327 00:17:53,056 --> 00:17:56,986 Now, if we fast forward a few centuries, we come to a story of 328 00:17:56,986 --> 00:18:03,206 this Emmanuel, of Jesus, and how he can, and how he can still a storm. 329 00:18:04,176 --> 00:18:10,266 So we read in Mark 4, verses 35 through 41, On that day, when evening 330 00:18:10,266 --> 00:18:15,131 had come, he, Jesus said to them, Let us go across to the other side, 331 00:18:15,841 --> 00:18:16,781 to the other side of the lake. 332 00:18:17,231 --> 00:18:21,561 And leaving the crowd, they took him with them in the boat, just as he was. 333 00:18:22,061 --> 00:18:23,181 And other boats were with him. 334 00:18:23,741 --> 00:18:25,751 And a great windstorm arose. 335 00:18:26,291 --> 00:18:29,951 And the waves were breaking in the boat, so that the boat was already filling. 336 00:18:30,941 --> 00:18:34,501 But he was in the stern, asleep on the cushion. 337 00:18:35,451 --> 00:18:38,071 And they woke him and said to him, Teacher, do you not 338 00:18:38,071 --> 00:18:39,441 care that we are perishing? 339 00:18:40,436 --> 00:18:46,136 And he awoke, and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, Peace, be still. 340 00:18:47,166 --> 00:18:49,876 And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. 341 00:18:50,396 --> 00:18:53,506 And he said to them, Why are you so afraid? 342 00:18:53,976 --> 00:18:55,276 Have you still no faith? 343 00:18:56,026 --> 00:19:00,706 And they were filled with great fear, and said to one another, Who then is this, 344 00:19:01,036 --> 00:19:03,316 that even the wind and the sea obey him? 345 00:19:03,391 --> 00:19:05,861 I think this is amazing. 346 00:19:06,081 --> 00:19:08,251 The carpenter, Jesus was a carpenter. 347 00:19:08,411 --> 00:19:12,891 So the carpenter was asleep in the boat while the fishermen were panicking. 348 00:19:13,401 --> 00:19:14,601 Like how is that possible? 349 00:19:15,081 --> 00:19:18,801 The guys with all the experience of being at sea, the ones with all the 350 00:19:18,801 --> 00:19:20,641 expertise, they're just flapping. 351 00:19:21,231 --> 00:19:25,171 If I'm on a plane and the pilot starts running down the aisle 352 00:19:25,171 --> 00:19:29,141 screaming help, I am not going to choose that moment to take a nap. 353 00:19:29,221 --> 00:19:30,931 I would be losing it. 354 00:19:31,041 --> 00:19:31,891 I'd be in bits. 355 00:19:33,706 --> 00:19:36,176 And these guys don't say, it's not like they say, Teacher, could 356 00:19:36,176 --> 00:19:37,876 you please come up and help us? 357 00:19:37,976 --> 00:19:39,976 Their heads are just gone at this point. 358 00:19:40,426 --> 00:19:42,256 They're like, don't you care? 359 00:19:42,336 --> 00:19:43,506 Don't you care we're perishing? 360 00:19:45,336 --> 00:19:47,276 But they hadn't truly realised who he was. 361 00:19:47,596 --> 00:19:56,296 Psalm 89, verses 8 to 9, says this, O Lord, God of hosts, who is mighty as you 362 00:19:56,296 --> 00:20:01,341 are, O Lord, with your faithfulness all around you, You rule the raging of the 363 00:20:01,341 --> 00:20:04,921 sea, when its waves rise, you still them. 364 00:20:05,801 --> 00:20:10,351 And real, unshakable, lasting peace comes from knowing the one 365 00:20:10,491 --> 00:20:12,251 who rules the raging of the sea. 366 00:20:14,231 --> 00:20:20,651 Isaiah 26 verse 3 says, you keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed 367 00:20:20,651 --> 00:20:23,431 on you, because he trusts in you. 368 00:20:24,651 --> 00:20:25,331 This verse is for you. 369 00:20:25,601 --> 00:20:27,661 Reminds me quite a lot of Peter in the Bible. 370 00:20:28,131 --> 00:20:30,181 There's a story in the New Testament. 371 00:20:30,211 --> 00:20:32,201 I'm going to read oh, I haven't got the reference here. 372 00:20:32,591 --> 00:20:37,281 We'll put it in after, but it says this immediately, he made 373 00:20:37,281 --> 00:20:38,691 the disciples, this is Jesus. 374 00:20:38,691 --> 00:20:42,241 He made the disciples get into the boat and go before him to the other 375 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:44,201 side while he dismissed the crowds. 376 00:20:44,801 --> 00:20:49,771 And after he had dismissed the crowds, he went upon the mountain by himself to pray. 377 00:20:50,706 --> 00:20:55,076 When evening came he was there alone but the boat by this time was a long 378 00:20:55,076 --> 00:20:59,836 way from the land beaten by the waves for the wind was against them and in 379 00:20:59,836 --> 00:21:04,366 the fourth watch of the night he came to them walking on the sea but when 380 00:21:04,366 --> 00:21:09,326 the disciples saw him walking on the sea they were terrified and said it is 381 00:21:09,326 --> 00:21:15,056 a ghost and they cried out in fear but immediately Jesus spoke to them saying 382 00:21:15,556 --> 00:21:24,826 take heart it is I do not be afraid And Peter answered him, Lord, if it is you, 383 00:21:25,256 --> 00:21:27,596 command me to come to you on the water. 384 00:21:28,546 --> 00:21:29,616 He said, come. 385 00:21:30,086 --> 00:21:34,316 So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus. 386 00:21:34,986 --> 00:21:39,816 But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and beginning to sink, 387 00:21:39,816 --> 00:21:42,126 he cried out, Lord, save me. 388 00:21:43,076 --> 00:21:46,566 Jesus immediately reached out his hand and took hold of him, saying 389 00:21:46,566 --> 00:21:49,126 to him, O you of little faith. 390 00:21:49,471 --> 00:21:50,511 Why do you doubt? 391 00:21:51,321 --> 00:21:55,091 And when they got into the boat, the wind seized, and those in 392 00:21:55,091 --> 00:21:58,971 the boat worshipped him, saying, Truly, you are the Son of God. 393 00:22:01,041 --> 00:22:06,311 The interesting thing is that nothing at all had changed in Peter's experience 394 00:22:06,331 --> 00:22:11,511 from when he was walking on the water to when he started to sink. 395 00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:15,011 His surroundings and his circumstances were exactly the same. 396 00:22:15,381 --> 00:22:19,031 In those two moments, when he was walking on water and when he was 397 00:22:19,031 --> 00:22:21,331 drowning, the waters were beneath him. 398 00:22:22,421 --> 00:22:23,721 He still wasn't on dry ground. 399 00:22:23,931 --> 00:22:27,751 The only thing that was different was where he was choosing to look. 400 00:22:29,711 --> 00:22:34,451 So let's go back to that verse, 3, you keep him in perfect peace 401 00:22:34,571 --> 00:22:37,481 whose mind is stayed on you. 402 00:22:40,161 --> 00:22:41,391 Peace is a person. 403 00:22:41,391 --> 00:22:41,491 Amen. 404 00:22:41,491 --> 00:22:41,506 Amen. 405 00:22:42,966 --> 00:22:47,926 And Peter later went on to say in 1 Peter 5, verses 6 to 7, Humble yourselves, 406 00:22:47,926 --> 00:22:52,746 therefore, under the mighty hand of God, so that at the proper time He may 407 00:22:52,756 --> 00:22:58,666 exalt you, casting all your anxieties on Him, because He cares for you. 408 00:23:00,336 --> 00:23:02,126 And this is how personal it is. 409 00:23:02,406 --> 00:23:03,686 God cares for you. 410 00:23:04,006 --> 00:23:10,346 And I love how personal Jesus was when he when he appeared to the disciples 411 00:23:10,466 --> 00:23:16,866 after his resurrection, in Luke 24, verse 36, it says as the disciples were 412 00:23:16,866 --> 00:23:21,136 talking about these things, as they were gathered together, Jesus himself stood 413 00:23:21,136 --> 00:23:24,166 among them and said to them, peace to you. 414 00:23:25,336 --> 00:23:30,496 Now, you might be tempted to just think, oh, this was a customary greeting and it 415 00:23:30,506 --> 00:23:34,746 was, but these would have, the disciples would have been astonished at this. 416 00:23:35,196 --> 00:23:40,306 Remember, the last time that they'd hung out with Jesus was was when Jesus 417 00:23:40,356 --> 00:23:42,866 had said, My peace I give to you. 418 00:23:43,206 --> 00:23:48,066 And he's now returning to them with those same words, peace to you. 419 00:23:48,956 --> 00:23:53,436 But according to all human logic and behaviour, these words should 420 00:23:53,476 --> 00:23:55,676 not be coming out of Jesus lips. 421 00:23:57,461 --> 00:24:00,821 Because they'd all deserted him at his crucifixion when times 422 00:24:00,821 --> 00:24:02,221 got hard, they all left him. 423 00:24:03,721 --> 00:24:07,841 So like Jesus, Jesus comes back to them and says, peace to you. 424 00:24:08,371 --> 00:24:12,211 When they were eating dinner the other night and Jesus said, peace, I leave 425 00:24:12,211 --> 00:24:13,931 with you, my peace, I give to you. 426 00:24:14,001 --> 00:24:15,941 Not as the world gives, do I give to you. 427 00:24:16,471 --> 00:24:19,411 Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid. 428 00:24:20,346 --> 00:24:21,746 Like guys, do you remember that night? 429 00:24:21,986 --> 00:24:22,566 Yeah, that's right. 430 00:24:22,566 --> 00:24:24,066 The night when you all betrayed me. 431 00:24:24,066 --> 00:24:24,926 Yeah, that's the one. 432 00:24:25,176 --> 00:24:26,856 I promised you peace then. 433 00:24:27,376 --> 00:24:32,206 And here I am now coming in peace and I'm making good on that promise. 434 00:24:33,456 --> 00:24:38,376 So peace is a promise that God makes to us through Jesus. 435 00:24:39,416 --> 00:24:40,376 Peace is a person. 436 00:24:40,736 --> 00:24:41,636 Peace is a promise. 437 00:24:42,296 --> 00:24:48,746 And finally, peace is a position that we have before God through Jesus. 438 00:24:48,826 --> 00:24:54,736 Romans 5 verse 1 says, Since we have been justified by faith, we have peace 439 00:24:54,776 --> 00:24:57,756 with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 440 00:24:58,286 --> 00:25:03,506 Because of what Jesus did on the cross in purchasing our freedom and our 441 00:25:03,506 --> 00:25:09,916 forgiveness and taking away, removing the guilt and the shame that we have because 442 00:25:09,916 --> 00:25:12,776 of our sin, we have peace with God. 443 00:25:13,436 --> 00:25:17,526 And if you remember Bonhoeffer's words from earlier, He spoke about 444 00:25:17,526 --> 00:25:22,046 being afraid of God, not being able to bear even a single minute before God. 445 00:25:22,656 --> 00:25:27,326 Christ came to reconcile us to God, to bring us back to the Father 446 00:25:27,666 --> 00:25:29,416 and to give us peace with God. 447 00:25:30,716 --> 00:25:31,996 God with us. 448 00:25:32,596 --> 00:25:33,786 God is at hand. 449 00:25:34,346 --> 00:25:36,796 That's why we're commanded, do not be afraid. 450 00:25:37,426 --> 00:25:38,236 Thank you for listening. 451 00:25:43,421 --> 00:25:44,091 Anna Kettle: Wow. 452 00:25:44,201 --> 00:25:46,101 So what did you think of that, Dan? 453 00:25:46,901 --> 00:25:47,681 Lots in there. 454 00:25:48,711 --> 00:25:49,091 Dan Orange: Yeah. 455 00:25:49,291 --> 00:25:50,291 Lots in there, isn't there? 456 00:25:50,351 --> 00:25:50,771 Yeah. 457 00:25:50,861 --> 00:25:53,341 And again, with the tech, quite an abrupt end. 458 00:25:55,131 --> 00:25:57,301 Anna Kettle: Dan's still getting used to this new setup, guys. 459 00:25:58,571 --> 00:25:59,671 Dan Orange: I was still writing notes. 460 00:26:01,111 --> 00:26:02,591 Anna Kettle: Dan's still getting used to all the extra 461 00:26:02,591 --> 00:26:03,981 buttons he has to think about. 462 00:26:04,011 --> 00:26:08,881 So apologies not so slick as normal, but anyway no I thought there was 463 00:26:08,881 --> 00:26:11,471 loads of really good stuff and that I really enjoyed that talk. 464 00:26:11,521 --> 00:26:17,061 I know the thing that really struck me was just the idea that firstly began on 465 00:26:17,101 --> 00:26:20,171 around peace that surpasses understanding. 466 00:26:20,171 --> 00:26:22,531 And I think that's it. 467 00:26:22,531 --> 00:26:23,391 It's peace that's. 468 00:26:24,086 --> 00:26:28,816 It's easy, not easy, but it's, it makes sense to have peace when life's 469 00:26:28,826 --> 00:26:32,286 straightforward, when life's easy, when things are going well, you can 470 00:26:32,296 --> 00:26:33,866 have a natural peace, can't you? 471 00:26:34,066 --> 00:26:37,506 You have more peace of mind about your finances. 472 00:26:37,506 --> 00:26:40,106 If you've got a good job and a regular salary, you have more 473 00:26:40,106 --> 00:26:41,356 peace of mind about your health. 474 00:26:41,386 --> 00:26:44,341 If you've just had a health check and everything's clear. 475 00:26:44,741 --> 00:26:49,301 You might have more peace about, I don't know, the security of your home. 476 00:26:49,301 --> 00:26:51,601 If you fit a fancy alarm on it. 477 00:26:51,751 --> 00:26:55,681 So certain things that can give us a natural amount of peace, but to 478 00:26:55,681 --> 00:27:00,041 me, that's finite and it's still limited and it's circumstantial. 479 00:27:00,111 --> 00:27:04,051 And the thing that really struck me is there's also this whole 480 00:27:04,331 --> 00:27:08,971 level of peace that Jesus offers us that is nothing to do with. 481 00:27:09,566 --> 00:27:10,956 Our circumstances at all. 482 00:27:11,026 --> 00:27:13,296 It's a piece that surpasses understanding. 483 00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:18,866 And I think that's the really cool point that was made that, yeah, there's 484 00:27:18,866 --> 00:27:21,566 this piece that you can experience that's beyond our circumstance 485 00:27:21,566 --> 00:27:23,096 and beyond what life happens. 486 00:27:23,756 --> 00:27:26,956 And isn't that something we all want and need in this age where 487 00:27:26,986 --> 00:27:28,596 life is uncertain so often? 488 00:27:28,596 --> 00:27:30,146 Dan Orange: Yeah, I agree totally. 489 00:27:30,146 --> 00:27:34,266 And it's the verse that when I'm praying for myself for peace, I always pray. 490 00:27:34,616 --> 00:27:36,376 When I'm praying for other people. 491 00:27:36,771 --> 00:27:41,401 I always pray that I think it wasn't even that long ago that God just said 492 00:27:41,401 --> 00:27:44,841 to me, because that piece that passes all understanding, when I was younger, 493 00:27:44,841 --> 00:27:49,211 we used to sing a song and it all, and I didn't really I didn't understand it. 494 00:27:49,211 --> 00:27:51,901 It was just a, it was a long word and it was like okay. 495 00:27:52,431 --> 00:27:57,041 But then it suddenly sunk in when later in life that we don't 496 00:27:57,051 --> 00:28:00,241 have to understand the situation. 497 00:28:00,731 --> 00:28:01,511 God understands it. 498 00:28:01,551 --> 00:28:03,461 And that means that. 499 00:28:04,126 --> 00:28:08,566 Pete said later on, the peace is independent of your circumstance. 500 00:28:09,226 --> 00:28:10,606 It's independent of your thinking. 501 00:28:10,606 --> 00:28:15,256 It's independent of your, what others have told you. 502 00:28:15,276 --> 00:28:18,226 It's independent of how you can get your head around it. 503 00:28:18,236 --> 00:28:20,646 You might not get your head around it. 504 00:28:20,686 --> 00:28:21,016 Yeah. 505 00:28:21,026 --> 00:28:26,381 But God's peace is still available in that situation 506 00:28:26,521 --> 00:28:29,391 Anna Kettle: because it's a piece that comes from like this 507 00:28:29,391 --> 00:28:30,641 is the point that Pete made us. 508 00:28:30,861 --> 00:28:35,531 It's a piece that comes from like knowing who God is in spite of your 509 00:28:35,531 --> 00:28:39,921 circumstance and knowing who you are in God and the promises that God is 510 00:28:40,406 --> 00:28:45,896 given to us as his children that go way beyond anything that's 511 00:28:45,996 --> 00:28:47,226 happening to you in the natural. 512 00:28:48,096 --> 00:28:50,656 Have you got any examples like of practice? 513 00:28:50,656 --> 00:28:51,966 Sorry, I'm putting you on the spot now. 514 00:28:52,206 --> 00:28:54,836 But have you got any examples of when you've known a piece that 515 00:28:54,836 --> 00:28:58,566 doesn't match your circumstance that is like surpasses it? 516 00:28:59,586 --> 00:29:02,866 Dan Orange: Yeah, I think something that's just off the top of my head, but 517 00:29:02,866 --> 00:29:08,626 it potentially is, I've said this lots of times before, but I run my own business. 518 00:29:08,636 --> 00:29:11,086 So my income is very erratic. 519 00:29:11,126 --> 00:29:11,406 Yeah. 520 00:29:11,696 --> 00:29:13,156 It's effectively sales. 521 00:29:13,156 --> 00:29:14,136 So some things are good. 522 00:29:14,176 --> 00:29:14,846 Sometimes they're good. 523 00:29:14,846 --> 00:29:16,086 Sometimes they're bad. 524 00:29:16,556 --> 00:29:20,636 And it doesn't mean I don't have to put work in, doesn't mean 525 00:29:20,636 --> 00:29:22,146 I don't have to plan things. 526 00:29:22,816 --> 00:29:27,196 But even when things, times are tough, times are hard. 527 00:29:27,216 --> 00:29:34,276 I pray that prayer and God has actively given me that peace. 528 00:29:34,736 --> 00:29:41,606 He said, yeah, it's okay, Dan, you can just rest in the fact that I've got this. 529 00:29:41,676 --> 00:29:42,126 Yeah. 530 00:29:42,226 --> 00:29:45,366 And sometimes that'll be well, so many times it will be literally in the morning. 531 00:29:45,366 --> 00:29:46,156 I'll get a text. 532 00:29:46,536 --> 00:29:48,036 Yeah, that Dan, we like that quote. 533 00:29:48,056 --> 00:29:48,646 We'll go ahead. 534 00:29:49,146 --> 00:29:49,486 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 535 00:29:49,506 --> 00:29:50,846 Dan Orange: But sometimes it might not be that. 536 00:29:51,431 --> 00:29:55,591 That quick, but so many times it no, sometimes it isn't that 537 00:29:55,661 --> 00:29:57,061 quick, but it's just a knowledge. 538 00:29:57,351 --> 00:29:57,751 Yep. 539 00:29:58,856 --> 00:29:59,146 I've got you. 540 00:29:59,396 --> 00:29:59,786 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 541 00:29:59,826 --> 00:30:00,066 Yeah. 542 00:30:00,066 --> 00:30:02,026 That is such a good practical example. 543 00:30:02,026 --> 00:30:02,636 I really like that. 544 00:30:02,696 --> 00:30:05,686 And I relate to it cause my husband's self employed as well. 545 00:30:05,786 --> 00:30:06,196 Yeah. 546 00:30:06,256 --> 00:30:09,646 And your finances, do you go up and down a bit on that and 547 00:30:10,076 --> 00:30:11,636 yeah, it is that trust, isn't it? 548 00:30:11,636 --> 00:30:13,246 That God's got it. 549 00:30:13,326 --> 00:30:13,546 Yeah. 550 00:30:14,271 --> 00:30:17,391 Yeah, whether you can see it at that moment or not, I have 551 00:30:17,391 --> 00:30:19,341 a example from last year. 552 00:30:19,511 --> 00:30:23,581 I remember about this time last year, myself and my husband, 553 00:30:23,731 --> 00:30:25,961 Andy, sadly lost a pregnancy. 554 00:30:26,331 --> 00:30:29,321 And it was our fourth baby in a row that we'd lost. 555 00:30:29,421 --> 00:30:33,731 I remember a friend said to me, I spoke to her, she'd also had a couple of 556 00:30:33,731 --> 00:30:39,481 baby losses in the past and a friend said to me, like, how are you doing? 557 00:30:39,491 --> 00:30:43,091 And I was like, yeah, it's hard, it's sad, but we're okay. 558 00:30:43,551 --> 00:30:47,781 And we chatted through stuff and she just said, she didn't say it to me 559 00:30:47,781 --> 00:30:52,901 there and then, but a few months later she said to me, I just felt like you 560 00:30:52,902 --> 00:30:57,751 had such a piece about you even in the middle of what's such an awful situation 561 00:30:57,801 --> 00:31:00,521 and so sad and hopeless in the natural. 562 00:31:00,531 --> 00:31:01,031 She was like. 563 00:31:01,361 --> 00:31:03,121 I just felt like God's peace was all over you. 564 00:31:03,121 --> 00:31:06,841 You just seemed at peace, even in the middle of it's exactly what they 565 00:31:06,841 --> 00:31:11,931 were saying in the midst of a storm that when you know, even though the 566 00:31:11,941 --> 00:31:17,741 circumstance isn't great, but Jesus has you and he still has hold of you 567 00:31:17,791 --> 00:31:19,181 and he still has a plan for your life. 568 00:31:19,181 --> 00:31:22,888 And that, that's definitely a very tangible one and I really felt at the 569 00:31:22,888 --> 00:31:30,268 time I was like, This situation isn't the one we wanted, but I'm at peace with 570 00:31:30,268 --> 00:31:32,458 the fact that God's bigger than this. 571 00:31:32,488 --> 00:31:32,748 Yeah. 572 00:31:32,828 --> 00:31:35,228 And he still has me and he has my family. 573 00:31:35,318 --> 00:31:35,788 Dan Orange: I agree. 574 00:31:35,788 --> 00:31:36,078 Yeah. 575 00:31:36,278 --> 00:31:41,738 And it goes on to Pete's point that peace is a position, isn't it again? 576 00:31:42,438 --> 00:31:42,708 Yeah. 577 00:31:42,708 --> 00:31:44,768 So I said this before, it's not circumstances. 578 00:31:45,638 --> 00:31:49,488 God's, Jesus said, my peace, I give to you. 579 00:31:49,488 --> 00:31:53,388 And we've been reconciled with God. 580 00:31:53,388 --> 00:31:59,508 If we know Jesus, if we've asked him to come into our lives, asked 581 00:31:59,508 --> 00:32:06,498 him to change us, we're in that position that he has taken away 582 00:32:06,498 --> 00:32:09,068 that fear of being outside of God. 583 00:32:09,818 --> 00:32:13,748 So we can stand in that position of peace. 584 00:32:13,808 --> 00:32:15,678 And it's a great place to be. 585 00:32:15,688 --> 00:32:17,838 It doesn't mean things are easy. 586 00:32:17,868 --> 00:32:21,348 There was still the the fishermen were still in a storm. 587 00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:22,968 They were still about to die. 588 00:32:23,098 --> 00:32:23,418 Yeah. 589 00:32:25,463 --> 00:32:28,273 But God, Jesus came with a peace 590 00:32:28,623 --> 00:32:30,623 Anna Kettle: and I think that for me is the thing. 591 00:32:30,633 --> 00:32:32,083 It's not again. 592 00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:32,943 The point was made. 593 00:32:32,953 --> 00:32:37,823 It's not the avoidance or absence of problems like life is 594 00:32:37,823 --> 00:32:40,523 going to throw troubles hours, Christians aren't immune from that. 595 00:32:40,543 --> 00:32:44,703 No one is because this world is broken and imperfect. 596 00:32:44,703 --> 00:32:47,253 And I think even Jesus said that in the Bible. 597 00:32:47,253 --> 00:32:50,483 He said, you will have problems, but I'll be with you. 598 00:32:51,003 --> 00:32:51,543 Through them. 599 00:32:51,663 --> 00:32:51,723 Yeah. 600 00:32:51,723 --> 00:32:54,633 Like that was the point that he left his disciples with yeah. 601 00:32:54,673 --> 00:32:55,843 You won't not have problems. 602 00:32:55,843 --> 00:32:56,353 You will. 603 00:32:56,473 --> 00:32:56,623 Yeah. 604 00:32:56,673 --> 00:33:00,063 But it's that you can see that in the storm situation, can't you? 605 00:33:00,273 --> 00:33:01,293 I love the point though. 606 00:33:01,293 --> 00:33:02,193 It was hilarious that. 607 00:33:02,748 --> 00:33:06,538 All these professional fishermen were like stressing and probably because they 608 00:33:06,538 --> 00:33:08,538 realized how dangerous the scenario was. 609 00:33:08,588 --> 00:33:09,528 They were in the storm. 610 00:33:09,528 --> 00:33:10,388 They didn't know what to do. 611 00:33:11,108 --> 00:33:12,628 And Jesus was like sleeping. 612 00:33:12,688 --> 00:33:17,808 And I think to me, that just really speaks of Jesus knew who his father was. 613 00:33:17,818 --> 00:33:18,328 He knew God. 614 00:33:19,053 --> 00:33:24,983 And he had such a peace in God being in control that he wasn't rattled the way we 615 00:33:24,983 --> 00:33:27,103 so often are when the storms of life come. 616 00:33:27,133 --> 00:33:31,973 And yeah, it's just, it blazed my mind that story every time because I 617 00:33:31,973 --> 00:33:36,143 know I would be one of those fishermen running around like a headless chicken. 618 00:33:37,178 --> 00:33:38,848 Dan Orange: He was in a double great position because he 619 00:33:38,848 --> 00:33:41,688 was the creator of the earth. 620 00:33:41,688 --> 00:33:43,468 So we had control over that. 621 00:33:43,468 --> 00:33:44,608 And he was a joiner. 622 00:33:44,638 --> 00:33:46,208 So he knew what the boat could take. 623 00:33:47,788 --> 00:33:50,543 Why wasn't he asleep? 624 00:33:50,543 --> 00:33:55,388 Peter said as well, that so not Peter in the Bible, Pete Farrington in 625 00:33:55,388 --> 00:34:02,588 the talk he talked about when Jesus said to Peter, come onto the lake 626 00:34:02,868 --> 00:34:07,978 and walk, Jesus was walking in the water, he came, Peter started to sink, 627 00:34:08,758 --> 00:34:11,618 his circumstances were no different. 628 00:34:11,688 --> 00:34:12,368 I love that. 629 00:34:13,318 --> 00:34:17,718 We can have peace when our circumstances have not changed at all. 630 00:34:17,748 --> 00:34:17,928 Yeah. 631 00:34:19,178 --> 00:34:24,168 It is challenging to me, but when he took his eyes off God, that's when he sank. 632 00:34:24,318 --> 00:34:28,248 Anna Kettle: Yeah, so more about knowing God's presence in your situation 633 00:34:28,268 --> 00:34:30,658 than having the solution, isn't it? 634 00:34:30,848 --> 00:34:34,088 It's about, and that's the thing that really struck me in this talk. 635 00:34:34,578 --> 00:34:37,158 It's about the presence of God, not the absence of trouble. 636 00:34:37,158 --> 00:34:41,688 And for me, that's probably my biggest takeaway from this. 637 00:34:41,698 --> 00:34:45,638 It's just, Yeah, that's really profound. 638 00:34:45,658 --> 00:34:49,398 It's just knowing God's presence with you changes everything more 639 00:34:49,398 --> 00:34:51,178 than your circumstances changing. 640 00:34:51,258 --> 00:34:51,848 Actually, 641 00:34:52,208 --> 00:34:55,788 Dan Orange: That's the biggest thing of Pete's talk that really spoke to me. 642 00:34:56,358 --> 00:35:00,118 That yeah, nothing changed around him, but his focus changed. 643 00:35:00,848 --> 00:35:01,208 Yeah. 644 00:35:01,498 --> 00:35:04,178 Dan Orange: And it back at the beginning of Pete's talk, he talked, he quoted 645 00:35:04,188 --> 00:35:11,073 from Dietrich Bonhoeffer about not, sometimes our absence of peace is 646 00:35:11,073 --> 00:35:16,023 because we're running from God, because we're trying to do the next activity. 647 00:35:16,083 --> 00:35:21,073 If we stay still, we might have to listen to him. 648 00:35:23,643 --> 00:35:28,953 And that could be scary, or it can be scary because we know two things. 649 00:35:28,953 --> 00:35:31,213 We know one, he's going to tell us the truth. 650 00:35:32,403 --> 00:35:34,173 And two, we need to listen to him. 651 00:35:34,623 --> 00:35:35,083 Yeah. 652 00:35:35,553 --> 00:35:35,943 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 653 00:35:36,553 --> 00:35:39,423 Dan Orange: From activity to activity. 654 00:35:39,613 --> 00:35:39,893 Yeah. 655 00:35:40,803 --> 00:35:43,363 Spending that time with God is key. 656 00:35:43,743 --> 00:35:45,253 I believe that's what it is for me. 657 00:35:45,503 --> 00:35:46,253 I know it for me. 658 00:35:46,513 --> 00:35:46,853 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 659 00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:48,093 Yeah, I totally agree. 660 00:35:48,583 --> 00:35:51,383 I was just looking at the comments box and there's one here from Matt Crew. 661 00:35:51,523 --> 00:35:53,843 He's just said we have some amazing brave. 662 00:35:53,883 --> 00:35:56,873 What's the story podcast from ladies who suffered loss? 663 00:35:57,123 --> 00:35:57,773 Yeah, that's true. 664 00:35:57,823 --> 00:36:00,123 And we also to be honest, we have some amazing stories. 665 00:36:00,153 --> 00:36:04,053 Like I sometimes post that podcast and if you haven't checked out yet, 666 00:36:04,433 --> 00:36:08,443 please do because actually there's all kinds of amazing stories from amazing. 667 00:36:09,158 --> 00:36:14,028 Ordinary people like you and I and just, but who've overcome some 668 00:36:14,028 --> 00:36:18,958 incredible difficulties in all different types of ways of life. 669 00:36:18,978 --> 00:36:25,248 And I think, yeah, in so many of those stories, you can see how having God's 670 00:36:25,253 --> 00:36:28,458 presence with you through some really challenging times in life, whether 671 00:36:28,458 --> 00:36:34,638 that's illness or loss, or challenges in work, all kinds of things that 672 00:36:34,643 --> 00:36:36,738 life can throw at you, but just. 673 00:36:37,428 --> 00:36:41,408 Having God with you in it as people telling their sort of journey, own 674 00:36:41,408 --> 00:36:46,748 journeys and stories of faith in the middle of hard things is just, honestly 675 00:36:46,798 --> 00:36:50,268 I love hosting them 'cause they're just so powerful and every time I have one 676 00:36:50,268 --> 00:36:54,848 of those conversations, I come away thinking just feeling so inspired. 677 00:36:54,848 --> 00:36:58,088 Because it's that thing again, God's presence in the middle of 678 00:36:58,088 --> 00:37:00,128 difficulty makes all the difference. 679 00:37:00,883 --> 00:37:04,163 And yeah, I definitely recommend people check out the podcast if they haven't, 680 00:37:04,243 --> 00:37:08,033 because it's just if you're interested in learning more about how you have peace in 681 00:37:08,033 --> 00:37:10,223 the middle of like stormy seasons of life. 682 00:37:10,973 --> 00:37:13,013 That podcast is just full of examples. 683 00:37:13,143 --> 00:37:14,173 Yeah, just brilliant. 684 00:37:15,063 --> 00:37:17,103 Dan Orange: Yeah, absolutely. 685 00:37:17,103 --> 00:37:19,483 It's worth really worth listening in. 686 00:37:20,083 --> 00:37:23,933 Again, sometimes I do feel like I repeat myself, but it's just because 687 00:37:23,963 --> 00:37:25,823 these things have spoken to me. 688 00:37:26,073 --> 00:37:27,183 I find it. 689 00:37:27,703 --> 00:37:31,698 I find life easier when I've heard from other people going 690 00:37:31,698 --> 00:37:32,808 through the same situation. 691 00:37:32,808 --> 00:37:36,178 I'm sure that must be the same in everything, even in my working life, 692 00:37:36,398 --> 00:37:38,918 if I don't know how to do something, I'll go on YouTube, I'll ask someone, 693 00:37:39,048 --> 00:37:39,988 it's the same thing, isn't it? 694 00:37:39,988 --> 00:37:41,408 Oh, they got stuck on that. 695 00:37:41,708 --> 00:37:42,828 Ah, that's how they did it. 696 00:37:43,088 --> 00:37:44,648 Let's find out from other people. 697 00:37:44,858 --> 00:37:45,408 Yeah, 698 00:37:45,438 --> 00:37:48,688 Dan Orange: in the same situation, those that know Jesus have chat to them. 699 00:37:49,168 --> 00:37:53,838 And if you don't know, if you don't have friends around you that know this 700 00:37:53,838 --> 00:37:59,448 God, then The What's The Story Podcast is a great way to hear those stories. 701 00:37:59,448 --> 00:37:59,808 Yeah. 702 00:37:59,908 --> 00:38:01,758 And please send in your prayer requests. 703 00:38:01,758 --> 00:38:03,698 We've just enjoyed, I love it. 704 00:38:03,738 --> 00:38:07,698 This week people send it in on WhatsApp requests that we can pray 705 00:38:07,718 --> 00:38:13,098 and we can just, we, it's a very Christian term, lift you up to God. 706 00:38:13,528 --> 00:38:17,308 Just say to God, this person here is struggling with this. 707 00:38:17,308 --> 00:38:19,978 This person here would like to know the answer here. 708 00:38:20,098 --> 00:38:20,678 Speak to them. 709 00:38:20,778 --> 00:38:21,258 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 710 00:38:21,498 --> 00:38:25,458 And we've seen some amazing answers to prayer as well through, through that. 711 00:38:25,458 --> 00:38:28,303 And yeah, and it is exciting. 712 00:38:28,483 --> 00:38:30,348 So yeah, absolutely agree. 713 00:38:30,348 --> 00:38:35,128 Just pray yourself, but also share those prayer requests with our team and we'll 714 00:38:35,128 --> 00:38:36,943 happily pray for you through the week. 715 00:38:37,003 --> 00:38:40,483 We've got a whole team here, Crowd Church or do that and commit to do that. 716 00:38:40,513 --> 00:38:40,663 Yeah. 717 00:38:40,723 --> 00:38:41,173 Yeah. 718 00:38:41,593 --> 00:38:42,643 Yeah, it's a good offer. 719 00:38:43,218 --> 00:38:46,608 I also loved what Pete was just saying about the three P's, I thought 720 00:38:46,628 --> 00:38:48,198 they were really easy to remember. 721 00:38:48,378 --> 00:38:53,418 So it was like kind of peace comes from like knowing the person, like 722 00:38:53,418 --> 00:38:57,098 who Jesus is and then the promise. 723 00:38:57,098 --> 00:39:01,708 So the promises they has given to us that we would know things like you'll 724 00:39:01,708 --> 00:39:03,908 know peace that surpasses understanding. 725 00:39:04,548 --> 00:39:06,928 And then the position you have, like. 726 00:39:07,963 --> 00:39:10,883 Yeah, knowing who we are because we're loved by God. 727 00:39:10,883 --> 00:39:11,203 Yeah. 728 00:39:11,393 --> 00:39:12,823 Yeah, I love that. 729 00:39:12,853 --> 00:39:14,453 It's such a simple way of remembering it. 730 00:39:14,563 --> 00:39:17,573 So yeah, I'll definitely log that one away for the week. 731 00:39:17,753 --> 00:39:19,343 Dan Orange: And it makes it possible. 732 00:39:19,393 --> 00:39:21,723 So the final thing I want to say is the end. 733 00:39:22,203 --> 00:39:23,213 There's a commandment. 734 00:39:23,663 --> 00:39:25,253 There's do not be afraid. 735 00:39:25,533 --> 00:39:25,843 Yeah, 736 00:39:25,923 --> 00:39:30,638 Dan Orange: and if God hadn't given us that assurance of peace, Then 737 00:39:30,638 --> 00:39:32,898 that would be a horrible commandment because you'd be asking us to 738 00:39:32,898 --> 00:39:34,368 do something that's impossible 739 00:39:34,488 --> 00:39:37,648 Anna Kettle: or just be self effort or striving to feel peaceful. 740 00:39:37,688 --> 00:39:37,968 Yeah. 741 00:39:38,018 --> 00:39:41,308 Which is anyone who struggles with anxiety will know. 742 00:39:41,478 --> 00:39:45,098 It's just that's, someone says, Oh, stop, just stop stressing about it. 743 00:39:45,318 --> 00:39:47,098 That never makes anyone feel less stressed. 744 00:39:47,368 --> 00:39:48,348 I would say that to my husband. 745 00:39:48,348 --> 00:39:49,768 He says, just stop stressing on it. 746 00:39:49,808 --> 00:39:52,988 And I'm like, every time you say that to me, it makes me more stressed 747 00:39:53,038 --> 00:39:56,158 because I was stressing at you and I'm stressing at the problem. 748 00:39:56,288 --> 00:39:59,758 It's just, no one's ever felt less anxious by being told to 749 00:39:59,758 --> 00:40:01,128 stop feeling anxious, right? 750 00:40:01,638 --> 00:40:02,198 Yeah. 751 00:40:02,588 --> 00:40:04,758 Dan Orange: So for God's commandment to say, don't be afraid, we 752 00:40:04,758 --> 00:40:08,318 can either look at it like that and go, Oh, how's that help? 753 00:40:08,348 --> 00:40:11,338 Or we can say if he's commanded us, he must have provided. 754 00:40:12,503 --> 00:40:12,953 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 755 00:40:12,953 --> 00:40:15,973 Dan Orange: Yeah. 756 00:40:15,973 --> 00:40:19,503 Anna Kettle: On the live stream just before Andy said like worship 757 00:40:19,563 --> 00:40:22,213 or listening to worship and praise music really helps him. 758 00:40:22,253 --> 00:40:26,423 And I think that's really, that's a really good point because I think it 759 00:40:26,423 --> 00:40:27,953 comes back to the presence of God. 760 00:40:28,343 --> 00:40:32,573 I feel like whenever I put on Christian music, it brings me right into that. 761 00:40:33,208 --> 00:40:36,498 Sense of the presence of God when I'm maybe don't feel that close to 762 00:40:36,498 --> 00:40:39,118 God or my mind isn't focused on God. 763 00:40:39,118 --> 00:40:40,098 It helps me. 764 00:40:40,668 --> 00:40:44,048 It's just a really practical way because it helps me focus on God and 765 00:40:44,048 --> 00:40:49,208 feel close to him and to like focus my gaze on him really and who he is 766 00:40:49,228 --> 00:40:53,313 and takes my, and I just think that shift of thinking about who God is. 767 00:40:53,823 --> 00:40:56,073 Takes and taking my eyes off my own problem. 768 00:40:56,123 --> 00:40:57,143 That really helps. 769 00:40:57,323 --> 00:40:58,853 That really helps that shift. 770 00:40:58,853 --> 00:40:59,183 Yeah, absolutely. 771 00:40:59,183 --> 00:41:01,938 From anxiousness to knowing the peace of God. 772 00:41:01,938 --> 00:41:02,178 Yeah. 773 00:41:02,183 --> 00:41:02,573 Often. 774 00:41:02,573 --> 00:41:03,798 So that is a really top tip. 775 00:41:03,798 --> 00:41:04,998 I totally agree with that. 776 00:41:05,148 --> 00:41:05,298 Yeah. 777 00:41:05,358 --> 00:41:07,528 And Matt's just said, yeah, he does as well. 778 00:41:07,533 --> 00:41:07,813 Dan Orange: Yeah. 779 00:41:07,873 --> 00:41:09,398 It's, yeah. 780 00:41:09,638 --> 00:41:12,758 Like you say, it takes out, focus off the situation, just says, 781 00:41:13,508 --> 00:41:14,678 yeah, let's put our focus on God. 782 00:41:14,678 --> 00:41:15,518 Let's not sink. 783 00:41:15,698 --> 00:41:16,028 Yeah. 784 00:41:16,088 --> 00:41:16,718 Let's walk on. 785 00:41:17,238 --> 00:41:19,138 Anna Kettle: Yeah, we're all about that. 786 00:41:19,138 --> 00:41:19,948 That sounds cool. 787 00:41:20,278 --> 00:41:21,368 Dan Orange: So what's next week? 788 00:41:22,098 --> 00:41:23,288 Anna Kettle: So next week, guess what? 789 00:41:23,318 --> 00:41:25,358 You've got another double whammy. 790 00:41:25,438 --> 00:41:26,858 We're back for more of this. 791 00:41:27,078 --> 00:41:29,348 Yeah, next week is me and Dan hosting again. 792 00:41:29,578 --> 00:41:30,958 So sorry about that. 793 00:41:30,998 --> 00:41:36,048 If anybody's hating or poor tech today, we promise we'll be a bit better next week. 794 00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:36,858 A little bit more, 795 00:41:37,418 --> 00:41:38,188 Dan Orange: more practice. 796 00:41:38,188 --> 00:41:39,348 Yeah, better on the keys. 797 00:41:39,428 --> 00:41:39,868 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 798 00:41:40,078 --> 00:41:40,908 No, I think we've done. 799 00:41:41,198 --> 00:41:42,558 I think you've done a good job tonight, Dan. 800 00:41:43,078 --> 00:41:45,578 Better than I would have done if you weren't here, let's put it that way. 801 00:41:46,008 --> 00:41:49,728 No, so we're back next week hosting, but we've got Dave Connolly 802 00:41:49,738 --> 00:41:52,958 speaking next week and he's going to be talking all about patience. 803 00:41:53,588 --> 00:41:55,578 Yeah, that's going to be awesome. 804 00:41:55,598 --> 00:41:56,488 I love Dave Conn. 805 00:41:56,568 --> 00:41:58,288 He's just got so much wisdom. 806 00:41:58,908 --> 00:42:01,128 So yeah, that will be a good one to tune into as well. 807 00:42:02,328 --> 00:42:02,888 Dan Orange: Indeed. 808 00:42:03,278 --> 00:42:05,348 So thanks very much for all your comments. 809 00:42:06,198 --> 00:42:07,108 Thanks for tuning in. 810 00:42:07,753 --> 00:42:11,683 And if you've got any prayer requests, like we said, please 811 00:42:11,693 --> 00:42:13,223 send them in, just visit crowd. 812 00:42:13,413 --> 00:42:15,243 church, all the details are there. 813 00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:16,533 Thank you. 814 00:42:17,783 --> 00:42:17,973 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