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Speaker AHello pinecones, and welcome back to another installment of Samia's Origin story as part of my between seasons bonus content.
Speaker ANow in if you are new to the show, if you just heard me recently on someone else's podcast and you came over here curious about what it is that I'm making, don't, don't start here.
Speaker AThis isn't the show.
Speaker AThis is bonus content.
Speaker AGo back to the beginning of the feed and listen to episode one titled the Lying is the betrayal, not the Sex with other people.
Speaker AStart there because that is the actual show and there are 11 episodes in the first season.
Speaker AWe started at the end of August and wrapped up at the beginning of November last year.
Speaker A2025.
Speaker ARight now I'm working on season two, but in order to not lose all of your beautiful sexy ears, those of you listeners who have been in since the beginning, I'm releasing this bonus content.
Speaker ASometimes it's interviews and sometimes like today, it's me telling you stories from my life.
Speaker ASo to tell you my actual full origin story, which is something that I've been talking about a lot on other people's podcasts, would require a lot more time than what I'm gonna do.
Speaker AGive this Today I'm going to give you a little snippet and the snippet that I'm going to give you is to do with the question of jealousy.
Speaker ASo the number one question that I get from people who have never experienced being in a non monogamous relationship, which is the only kind of relationship that I ever have anymore, is but what do you do when you get jealous?
Speaker AAnd I want to tell you a personal story from my life that was kind of my breakthrough with jealousy.
Speaker ASo the first time that I was in a fully open relationship was back in.
Speaker AIt started in late 2012.
Speaker AI was a wee youngin.
Speaker AI think I was what I was 29.
Speaker AI'd just turned 29 and I had just gotten dumped by a total a hole who not only was like toxically monogamous, he wouldn't even let me talk to like women I'd made out with once in college.
Speaker ALike he was that jealous and controlling and possessive.
Speaker AWe don't like him.
Speaker AWhen he dumped me on a Tuesday out of nowhere, I swore to myself that I would never ever, ever let somebody control me like that again.
Speaker AThat not only would I never cut off people that I cared about just because a boyfriend or girlfriend told me to, but but I would never be monogamous again because There are people in my life that I always want to have a place open for.
Speaker AAnd I also want a place open for anyone new who comes along, who I have an undeniable connection with.
Speaker AI am not about this whole idea of, like, just because you got married or committed to somebody and then something really fantastic starts to happen with somebody new that you have to say, no, I deny you get away from me.
Speaker ANo, I don't do that.
Speaker AI'm like, let.
Speaker ALet your relationships be what they are.
Speaker ANo one relationship gets to control any other relationship.
Speaker ASo I got out of this toxically monogamous relationship with this asshole and immediately started sleeping with the bartender at the cafe and bar across the street from where I lived in Astoria, Queens.
Speaker AAnd that was super fun.
Speaker AIt started off casual, but then we fell in love and we were together for about three years.
Speaker AAnd it was the first non monogamous relationship I had ever been in.
Speaker AAnd there was some back and forth with our monogamous status.
Speaker AThere was a point about seven months in where he was going through a depression, and he told me that what had once felt really fun about non monogamy was now feeling really bad to him.
Speaker AAnd I was really busy with work at the time.
Speaker ASo I agreed to be temporarily monogamous to give him some time to recover from his depression.
Speaker AI was very compassionate about that.
Speaker AMental health issues are no joke.
Speaker ABut then about nine months later, we reopened our relationship and we were fully open.
Speaker AAnd when he started dating other people at that point, all the women he was choosing to date were like 10 years younger than me.
Speaker AWell, maybe not 10.
Speaker AI. I think I was like 30 by that time.
Speaker AAnd these women were like 21, 22, and he was 25, so they were age appropriate for him, but they were much younger than me.
Speaker AThey were also almost universally very, very petite.
Speaker AThey were short and very thin.
Speaker AI mean, these were girls that weighed like 95 pounds soaking wet.
Speaker AAnd for some reason, this was all he was dating at the time.
Speaker AI am not that.
Speaker AI am not that at all.
Speaker AAt that time, I was struggling with aging.
Speaker AYou know, it's so funny because when you're in your 20s, turning 30 feels like, oh, I'm getting old.
Speaker AAnd now that I'm in my 40s, I'm like, oh, my God.
Speaker AI was still a tadpole.
Speaker ABut at the time, I was trying to launch a music project and a band of my own.
Speaker AIf you want to listen to my original music, you can go on Spotify and search Samia Xi and you'll find all of it.
Speaker AI Haven't been releasing music in a long time.
Speaker ABut I, I.
Speaker AFor five years, I was really serious about it.
Speaker AI made a bunch of music videos, and you can check those out too on YouTube.
Speaker AJust search Samya Xi, you'll find it.
Speaker ABut I felt like I was getting old.
Speaker AI felt like I'd missed my chance at a big career.
Speaker AI'd missed the boat in life.
Speaker AAnd I've always struggled with body image since I was a slightly chubby little kid getting bullied every day to a slightly chubby young adult, feeling like nobody wanted me because I wasn't this thin, aspirationally attractive human.
Speaker ATurns out it was really just my confidence that could have used a boost.
Speaker AAnd once I got that under control, all the dicks and pussies came my way.
Speaker ABut I was insecure about those things.
Speaker AI was insecure about my age.
Speaker AI was insecure about my size.
Speaker ASo him dating these girls that were so young and so tiny made me lose my goddamn mind.
Speaker AI got so jealous.
Speaker AThere was one really ugly night where he came home much later than he was supposed to and didn't call me, which is on him.
Speaker AAnd he apologized.
Speaker ABut I was like a rage monster.
Speaker AI, like, screamed that night.
Speaker AI apologized too.
Speaker AAnd the next day, I sat with those feelings.
Speaker AI was like, why did I get so irrationally angry?
Speaker AI mean, it was only a couple of hours.
Speaker AAnd it's not like I waiting for him for any particular reason.
Speaker ALike, I, I wasn't even doing anything.
Speaker AAnd became really obvious that my jealousy with these women had nothing to do with them.
Speaker AIt had to do with me, my insecurities.
Speaker AAnd that's typically the case with jealousy.
Speaker AIt's often to do with your own insecurities, your fear of abandonment, your worries about whether or not you're good enough on one or more levels.
Speaker AAnd sometimes jealousy is an indicator that you are not being treated well, that your partner is treating you in a way that is not okay.
Speaker AThat is also sometimes the case.
Speaker ABut to answer the question, how do you deal with jealousy?
Speaker AThe answer is, think of it as information before you act on your jealousy, or outsource blame for your jealousy on somebody else, either your partner or the other people that they're attracting.
Speaker ATo ask yourself, what is getting triggered here?
Speaker AWhy am I jealous?
Speaker AIs it an insecurity?
Speaker AIf that's the case, that's your issue to deal with.
Speaker AIt has nothing to do with your partner or the other people they're seeing.
Speaker AIf it's that you're being mistreated, well, in that case, it's still your issue to deal with.
Speaker AYou got to talk to your partner about it.
Speaker AAnd if they're not in a place where they want to change their behavior, then maybe it's a relationship ending event.
Speaker ABut either way, it's information and you need to figure out what that information is telling you so that you can make a good decision.
Speaker AIt's a lot wiser to handle jealousy that way than to feel it and immediately go, you fucking asshole, I hate you.
Speaker AHow dare you make me feel this way.
Speaker AAnd a common trope in polyamorous circles is you are the only one who is responsible for your feelings.
Speaker AAnd this can be used problematically.
Speaker AThere are people out there who behave badly and don't treat their partners right.
Speaker AAnd when their partner says, hey, this is making me feel away, they'll respond with, nobody can make you feel anything.
Speaker AThis is your problem and that's fucked up.
Speaker ADon't do that.
Speaker ABut that kind of situation aside, it is wise to think of your emotions as your responsibility.
Speaker AThat doesn't mean that people who treat you badly are absolved of all responsibility.
Speaker AIt just means that nobody can make you feel something.
Speaker AIf you feel bad because of something someone else did, it's because you have granted them access to you in that way.
Speaker AMaybe they don't deserve that access, maybe you have to cut off that access.
Speaker ABut maybe, just maybe, they didn't do anything wrong and an insecurity has just gotten triggered.
Speaker AAnd if that's the case, you work on that insecurity.
Speaker ASo end of that story.
Speaker AOnce I figured that out, I had a conversation with my sweet boyfriend and I apologized for the way I had reacted the night before.
Speaker AHe apologized for coming home later than he was supposed to.
Speaker AI explained to him that the women he was dating were exacerbating my existing insecurities.
Speaker ABut that was on me and that was not his fault.
Speaker AAnd I also acknowledged to myself and to him that part of what makes non monogamy so fun is getting to date very different types of people in our relationship.
Speaker ABecause I was a little bit older and more established in my career, I was the wise, stable one and he was a little bit more willy nilly off in the ether.
Speaker ABeing a 25 year old in New York City.
Speaker AThese women were younger than him and much physically smaller than him, whereas I was kind of the same size as him.
Speaker AAnd they made him feel like the wise, intelligent, experienced one, the big strong protector, which he didn't get to feel like with me.
Speaker ASo he was getting something from that that was very good for him.
Speaker AAnd I didn't want to take that away.
Speaker ASo I just asked for a little reassurance.
Speaker AYou know what he did?
Speaker AHe gave it to me because he was a really, really good partner.
Speaker AIf you're listening to this D, you know who you are.
Speaker AStill the best boyfriend I ever had.
Speaker ASo yeah, I hope this story helps you if you are at all curious about non monogamy but wondering, how am I going to deal with my jealousy?
Speaker AJealousy is just a feeling.
Speaker AFeelings are something we can and should sit with and ask ourselves.
Speaker AWhat are these feelings pointing me to?
Speaker AWhat is getting triggered here that I can address?
Speaker AIs it something that's in my control, like an insecurity?
Speaker AOr is it something that someone else is doing to me?
Speaker AAm I being treated badly and do I need to establish a new set of boundaries with this person in order to protect myself?
Speaker AAnd if you look at it that way, I promise you, you'll have bad moments.
Speaker AI'm sure we all do.
Speaker AI still have bad moments.
Speaker ABut you won't destroy your relationships and push good people away just because you had a bad moment.
Speaker ABecause you'll be able to recover and say, hey, I learned this about myself and I'm sorry and I forgive you and I forgive me.
Speaker AAnd let's move forward with this new information in our back pocket.
Speaker AAll right, that's my story for today.
Speaker AThank you so much for tuning in, longtime listeners, new listeners, if you listen to this whole thing without going back to episode one, I hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker ABut now go back to episode one.
Speaker AI'm going to be doing an advice bonus episode soon, so if you have questions for me that you think you would enjoy my answers to, I give stellar advice.
Speaker AI really do.
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Speaker AThat will be on an upcoming bonus release.
Speaker AAnd I've got a lot of other fun things in the works for coming up for you.
Speaker AThere's going to be a joint episode with Amy and April of the very popular, very cool Shameless Sex podcast.
Speaker AThere's going to be an interview with Adam Darrow, the author of the memoir Seek the Risk, which is a story about how he had to release all of his male ego in order to enjoy a relationship with a fabulous man, non monogamous woman that he fell head over heels in love with and a lot more.
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Speaker APinecones Production on season two is well underway.
Speaker AHopefully I will have a launch date to announce to you very soon, and until then, stay saucy.
Speaker ALove ya.
Speaker AWe all got secrets.