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Welcome to Rabble Rants. I'm Santiago Gelo Quintero and alongside Jesse McLean, we're going to

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unpack the stories that have us most riled up and challenge the narratives around them.

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Remember, remember the 5th of November, the gunpowder treason and plot. I know of no reason

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why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot. I remember the 5th of November. For different

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reasons though than the 2024 one I guess. Well there was like 150 odd Americans that didn't.

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Because I don't give a shit about anybody who voted for Kamala either. Right? So, yeah, it

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happened. Trump is president again in case, I don't know, you fucking missed it. But I

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didn't know how I would feel when it happened because I think we knew it would happen. We

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can talk about why I think that's what we are going to talk about. But I felt really fucking

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smug this morning going, it was kind of like, I don't want to go on there and say, I told

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you so. But, you know, everyone told the Democrats. So Their base sure as fuck told them people

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in Dearborn sure as fuck told them that this wasn't a winning policy, you know, genocide.

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I mean, there's other reasons too, but the fact that you, you know, I don't want Trump, I don't

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want Trump, I don't want Trump. Okay. But I'm happy as fuck that the DNC were punished. No

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politician can stand behind a genocide shout down their base who are trying to stop it and

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think. that they are going to win them over, either their vote or their labor. Like, that's

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ridiculous. Yeah, like, sorry that the kids that you tear gassed aren't voting for you.

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Yeah, or the people whose families you're bombing. I even saw Republicans, you know, in the face

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of some Democrats, shouting them down, going, How can you justify sending all that money

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over to Israel? You know, how can you justify that like they are so fucked up voting Republican?

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I get it. But it was even you they couldn't even defend themselves to Republicans on some

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of these points. And I know a big fuck you honestly to the people out there that are like, Oh,

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I can't wait for them to see what happens under Trump to Gaza. What the fuck you mean? You

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mean you hope you see further destruction just so you can prove your point? just so you can

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like what get back at people who didn't get your girl into office? Like you've got to be

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kidding me, way to show your true colors. One thing about like the cult of the Democratic

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Party that is always kind of funny to witness when they lose is that the blame game. Right?

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Like we've been seeing the blame game for years. New Democrats do it well too. Yeah, oh yeah

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absolutely. It's not unique at all. Shout out to the NDP. It's not unique at all to the Democratic

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party. But it's really funny, like I keep seeing tweets of people who are like, I hope you third

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party voters got what you fucking asked for, you fucking ruined my life, yadda yadda. Meanwhile

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there wasn't a single state that would have been flipped by the third party voters. Trump's

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victory was so absolute. No one got what they wanted. Those third party voters wanted an

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end to genocide and climate justice. What the fuck you mean they got what they wanted? Yeah,

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but it's like, yeah, the third party voters had nothing to do with it. Okay, and we can't

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blame Bernie this time, right? Bernie didn't even run. But he would have won if he did.

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Even though, you know, he's not... I mean, he would have had to change his position too.

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He's still standing there going, Israel has a right to defend itself, but, but... Yeah,

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look, like, I'm... more than mature enough at this point to not deify Bernie or anyone else

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anymore. Not that like I'm not grateful for the political awakening that his original campaign

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gave. But anyways, Bernie things aside, I'm not even going to go there. And now they're

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like, OK, well, we'll blame the Latinos, even though Latinos voted more for Kamala than Trump.

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OK, well, I know you told me they blaming Latinos for what? There's like. Because you know, oh,

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40% of them voted for Trump. Like, what numbers do you want? What is the threshold? Like, every

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fucking Latino. Maybe if we allowed Latinos who weren't just rich Latinos to immigrate.

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And vote. Things would be different, right? Because like, hey, we got some real right-wing

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Latinos, and those are the ones that have an easier time getting to these countries, just

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so you know. Look everyone, we are smug. There is nothing to be happy about though, like.

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It's an absolute victory on every level, right? Senate, House, everything. I mean, it's gonna

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be awful. I'm not, and I have no false hope that like, well, it wasn't quite as bad as

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we thought last time around. So no, there's no false hope. It's gonna be way worse. Everyone

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knows it's gonna be way worse. But how much way worse? What in four years did Biden do

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that could have mitigated? So what could another Kamala for? to mitigate like the anti-trans

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legislation and the anti-abortion legislation that just continues to roll through the states.

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You know, Biden had his chance and it's so insulting for all these celebrities posting up selfies

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or anybody making these comments, these fucking feminists, usually white feminists. Oh, well,

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here I voted today as though half the population's lives depended on it. I voted today for me

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and my two daughters. There's women dying now because of these laws being refused treatment

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by hospitals until they're in a situation so fucking dire that they die rather than get

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the health care that they need because of legislation that's been passed that Biden has not been

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able to thwart. Four years ago, you know, this is the most important election of your time

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women and they gave you Biden. You fooled them. And so again, this mask slips. It slips. I

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would say it started with Obama, right? He had such promise and change and then he ended up

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dropping the most drone strikes as any president and built these migrant camps that everyone

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loved to dump on Trump for. And if you look materially, Trump didn't do anything all of

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that more horrible than the Democrats will do if given the opportunity to. No, and like that's

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the thing, right? Like we have no false illusions that either side was gonna act in the best

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interest of the people at any moment in time. I mean, at the end of the day, they're beholden

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to the rich. Yeah. Right? Like I'm not blaming you, but let's speak. No, young men, yeah.

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Yeah, what the f- You know, I don't know if you can help make sense of it, but that's really

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troubling. And it does speak to what you were talking about in one of our other Ravel rants

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of- not being able to harness the radicalization of especially now we see young people young

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men in specifically voting for Trump and the dangers of not being able to thwart that what

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does that mean yeah I mean that is something that we have been raising the alarms about

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for a very long time you know like it's partly why I shit on the NDP so much I'll tell you

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why because Other parties, they encourage the radicalization of the youth and other groups,

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right, in a most horrible way. But our parties, like you saw the way Kamala was trying to suppress

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any Palestinian solidarity, anybody trying to get her to answer on the Israel question. And

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in general, you know, you saw also the Democratic Party fight tooth and nail to remove socialists

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from the ballot. And our new Democrats are the same, right? They do everything in their power

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to push down the radical elements of the left. They keep us down. They try to moderate us.

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And other parties, we actually shit on them for doing that because we know it's not in

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our best interest. We know it's not in the people's best interest. But you have to admire that

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tactic. That is how you point people's anger in the right direction and not just put it

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into bureaucracy. and the correct avenues and respectability politics. That's not what people

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are asking for. And because we have not given it to them, we have lost the youth to the right.

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And the fight that we have in front of us is becoming even more daunting day by day. A youth

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that back in 2016, for example, had all the promise of being one of the most progressive

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youths. But back in that day, there was like... It was extremely anti-right wing. Extremely

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progressive. We have like the speed at which we have lost the youth. It's horrifying. And

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there's, there's no like, I mean, people are already living through extremely tough times.

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There's no waiting for something to like change their mind. It's already, it's, it's already

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been lost yet. I mean, we know that the Democrats aren't going to learn any lessons from this.

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You know, they're not going to be like, Oh, well, maybe we should have had an actual primary.

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Maybe we should have, you know, allowed people to see like, if anything, their reaction is

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going to be, well, we can't run any women anymore. That might be the one lesson they learnt from

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it. You know, you're going to see them blaming the demographics like you talk about, but yeah,

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no, no inner reflection, not on policy. I mean, the fact that they were walking around with

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the Cheneys. I mean, they didn't even have policy. No, it lacked policy. Nothing about health

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care, which everyone is struggling. I mean, Kamala didn't even have a platform for how

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long? Like literally no platform, right? Which is strange coming from someone who's been so

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intertwined in policy and how that role would be for so long to not have concrete ideas.

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That's such a red flag when they don't provide that. Olivia Chow didn't provide one either.

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And so it was another leftist, not even a faux progressive, that's trying to win the free

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labor and votes of the very people they plan to oppress anyway. And they- It's almost like

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we're in another one of those situations, you know, where they ran Hillary when we knew Bernie

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would win and they put up another unpopular candidate like Kamala. Who got destroyed when

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they were actually in a primary. Like, it was brutal how bad their primary was back in 2020.

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Right? Like that was embarrassing. Yeah, they seem like the person to run. They're not gonna

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learn anything from this. And I'm not waiting for them to learn that. And they don't have

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their usual arguments. Like I said, they can't go and blame third party voters because the

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marginal is so big. They can't be like, oh, well, we won the popular vote. No, you lost

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the popular vote this time around. There's so many reasons to disappoint their base, but

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how are you activating people? How are you getting people convinced that putting... another Democrat

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in there for four years was going to give them anything but what they'd experienced for the

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last four years. And they couldn't. And that was a tough place to be. You'd have to be criticizing

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your own work for the last four years. So it was just like the safe coasting of an election.

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But it's like, in the end, you realize the people behind these parties, they don't give a shit

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who wins in the end. It doesn't fucking matter to them. No. And let's talk Canada for a second.

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We're not learning any lessons here, right? I mean, we know the Democrats aren't. But hey,

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Polyev's waiting. He's coming. You know? It's going to happen here too. Oh, he's watching

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this, and he's probably so excited. And this is for all the people there that are, oh, you

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know, Americans. How can they do this? You know, and the memes were endless. You know, here's

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the Americans about to make another stupid mistake. And it's like, buckle up, people. You know,

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not that I'd. It's the same thing.

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No, but I would feel the same way about someone voting for Justin Trudeau under what has happened

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that I would for Poliev. I don't know how you could go and take that time to walk to the

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school and line up and present your ID and tell that person that they deserve to keep doing

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that job. Nor do I understand how you would hand it over to some right-wing fuckface that

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wants to scape go the most marginalized people in our community so brazenly, because the liberals

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are doing it anyway. You know, they have all of the detriments that the conservatives have,

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except they couch it in this bleeding heart liberal rhetoric. But that's being that's harder

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and harder to buy. There's no liberal that doesn't know what the fuck they've done for the last

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400 days. And so you're if you're still getting that your stamp of approval, I put you in the

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same category. I mean, I don't even want to talk about the NDP because they just go on

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so long about But in terms of those two parties, that's how I feel. And it's the same with the

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Democrats. If you went out and voted for Kamala and tried to pretend to people that would somehow

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make a huge difference in their lives, even in women's lives, fuck right off. Which women?

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Rich white women? Maybe? Materially, she hates workers just as fucking much. So like, no.

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Winning the presidency isn't going to overturn those abortion laws. It meant nothing for women's

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rights. No. Nothing. No. So the good news is though, let's end up, I do have good news.

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I have very good news. Because you all can be as smug as me today. Because you know why?

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Because the plan has not changed. Not in any way. Nothing we have talked about ever on our

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show, either Blueprints of Disruption or here on Rabble Rants. There is no call to action.

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There is no tactic that we have discussed that still isn't in play at this time. Right. Believers

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of power still remain the same. The systems that oppress us are still there. They just

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have, they just have a different character running the show. And behind the scenes, we have the

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same enemies still. So yeah, there's probably people just despondent today. They don't understand

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what is happening. Very disappointed, troubled maybe with some of the demographics voting,

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you know, and what that means for our future. But we all knew that was already a hurdle for

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us. We saw those numbers here for conservative support in Canada. The work is still to be

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done today to not, I think, mark any of that, except perhaps that we know voters will hold.

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Genocidal politicians, unapologetically genocidal politicians, accountable for their actions.

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the show notes. Whatever you do, keep on disrupting.