ello and welcome back to not the same

1:04

as last year so I promised last week

1:07

that this episode would be all about

1:09

artificial intelligence in events and

1:11

how it will help improve a attendee

1:14

experience but to be honest I don't

1:16

think we're quite there yet I have been

1:19

mcing a few events this year obviously

1:22

and in fact in every single one

1:24

regardless of the industry there has

1:26

been at least one session on AI And yet

1:29

when when I talk to the people running

1:31

the events the event organizers

1:33

themselves most of them are barely using

1:36

it whether it is because they think they

1:38

don't have time to learn about it or

1:40

they are afraid of it or there isn't

1:42

even a policy to implement AI within

1:44

their organizational structure whatever

1:47

it's not being used so today I think we

1:49

need to start a little bit earlier we

1:51

need to talk about how AI can help us

1:54

event professionals to save time and

1:57

improve our processes so my goal for

2:00

this episode is to make you excited

2:02

about Ai and how it can help you do a

2:05

better and more efficient job which will

2:07

then give you the time back to enable

2:09

you to be more creative and make your

2:12

events better for your attendees now I'm

2:15

excited by Ai and its potential but I am

2:18

still only dabbling myself and I've

2:20

still got a lot to learn and try so I've

2:23

asked someone far more knowledgeful on

2:25

the impact of AI and events to join me

2:28

Anor platon trean is the founder of the

2:31

event production company tree fan events

2:33

she has her own amazing podcast

2:36

demystifying events and if that's not

2:38

enough she's also an award-winning

2:40

bodybuilder and weight training coach

2:42

she's really committed to merging event

2:44

production with wellness and Technology

2:47

to really enhance the event experience

2:49

and indeed to sharing her knowledge with

2:51

others so we're very lucky to be able to

2:53

speak to her today and I started by

2:55

asking her why she has found AI so easy

2:59

to get into when I first started in

3:01

event Productions 20 something years ago

3:03

it's because I was very much embedded

3:05

into into technology and I it starts

3:08

from as early as like fifth grade I kid

3:11

you not when uh when I first uh went

3:14

into a comp computer uh science class in

3:17

middle school and we were the first

3:20

generation on the internet and we had

3:23

the internet to ourselves there was no

3:27

boundaries there's no rules I mean we're

3:29

kind kind of like free and wild and some

3:32

of it was good some of it not so good

3:34

right but I was always diving into

3:37

whatever the newest thing was the newest

3:39

technology and that has kind of been the

3:42

journey the story of my life so when you

3:45

know AI kind of became on the next thing

3:49

came on the scenes um

3:51

2022 is when we know of chpt coming out

3:55

and everybody was like oh my gosh what

3:57

is this thing right but actually AI

3:59

algorithms have been used by businesses

4:01

like think of Amazon if you think of

4:03

your uh patterns what you shop what you

4:06

listen to uh what you watch all of that

4:09

is dictated by AI algorithms in the

4:12

background right so it's not a New

4:13

Concept however for a lot of us on the

4:15

front end it was kind of new when CHP

4:18

came out and we started interacting with

4:21

this large language model that could

4:23

give us answers like you would be

4:25

talking to a human right so um it wasn't

4:28

anything different for for me than just

4:30

following the technology and seeing

4:33

where it leads and when I saw that this

4:35

is a big deal in the way we interact the

4:37

way it's going to change our processes

4:39

and the way it's going to change the way

4:40

we work create workflows and the way we

4:43

plan events the way we Market them I was

4:45

all in I'm like I'm going straight in

4:48

because this is going to definitely to

4:50

use the CHP most used uh word

4:55

revolutionize our future right so um

4:59

that was a no brainer for me to just

5:01

dive straight in and it's funny because

5:03

I find myself me and a lot of other

5:06

others that we use words that CH GPT

5:09

uses a lot but now we use it in our

5:11

everyday conversations and I laugh at

5:13

myself because there's words that I've

5:15

never used before right like

5:16

revolutionize dwell more over further

5:19

more dive all those things that now we

5:22

we speak like an

5:24

llm I know and I'm having to catch

5:27

myself because obviously I Ed it a lot

5:30

to help me phrase something or start me

5:32

off sometimes when I'm getting a bit of

5:34

a creative mind block and then I want to

5:36

turn it into my own thing and I think

5:39

I've done that and then I'm reading a

5:41

script and I'm oh no there's a lot of

5:43

diving and dwelling going on there I

5:45

didn't I know I kind of cringe I think

5:48

gosh there's some episodes I've probably

5:50

recorded already where I've put a bit of

5:51

diving and dwelling in um so yeah we do

5:54

have to we have to be careful I think

5:57

though I'm using it and I think oh look

5:58

at everyone's using it and there still

6:00

not people still are frightened of it

6:02

and I am not someone who is like you

6:04

doing it in Computer Sciences school I

6:05

was the one oh gosh no I'm not going to

6:07

do that I'll learn at some stage and

6:10

I've picked it up this year and I think

6:12

particularly maybe those of us who run

6:14

our own businesses we're using it

6:15

because it's such a shortcut it's such a

6:18

shortcut and it saves so much time and

6:20

so much money when you should be doing

6:22

something else and you're wasting time

6:23

trying to phrase something and the

6:25

language model will help you but within

6:27

event planning in a in a in a company

6:30

and budgets are tight things that being

6:33

a to do so much more with so much less

6:36

this is going to make their lives just

6:38

nicer isn't it so much easier absolutely

6:41

I'm using chpd and I feel like for the

6:43

most of us it's quite a common tool to

6:48

use nowadays if it's not maybe you

6:51

should get on it cuz you don't want to

6:53

be miles behind because even chpt as

6:57

they're constantly up updating and

6:58

upgrading their product they're going to

7:00

get into AI agents and other

7:03

infrastructures and other workflows that

7:05

if you don't start from point A to kind

7:08

of get an idea of how this all works you

7:11

might get so many light years behind

7:13

that it's going to be so intimidated to

7:14

want to try so that being said where I

7:18

see AI especially Beyond chpt really

7:21

help event planning event management

7:23

event sourcing is the use of AI agents

7:27

what does that mean it's not just one

7:29

tool like Chad GPT that can repurpose

7:32

your content or sped out different

7:34

versions of the same pitch that you're

7:37

going to send to multiple stakeholders

7:39

for say a talk or maybe an event that

7:42

you want to get sponsorship for or maybe

7:45

an audience engagement piece that you're

7:47

trying to make it more interactive and

7:49

you're like o act as somebody like an

7:51

Entertainer or act like a com comedian

7:54

or act like Claire Forester that knows

7:56

how to un see events like something like

7:59

that right

7:59

it's going to be more where you have one

8:02

task and then you give it the

8:04

instructions of what this one task is

8:06

and let's say it's planning an event but

8:08

it's more than just planning an event

8:10

there's multiple steps and checklists

8:12

that you have to go through as you're

8:15

planning this one event right so we're

8:17

talking from pre-event engagement to

8:20

sponsorships to Enga to agenda building

8:23

to uh maybe having some kind of

8:26

interaction or maybe some uh kyot

8:29

speakers that will really grab the

8:30

attention MC's um all the way post event

8:33

to Gathering surveys and we're not even

8:36

talking about sourcing the right space

8:38

the right venue the right vendors the

8:39

right event uh Partners all of that so

8:41

you have this list of things that you

8:43

know you have to accomplish and you're

8:45

like okay I'm one person I got to do it

8:47

all I probably need like I don't know uh

8:50

nine months 16 months to get this all

8:53

done nowadays if you're going to get uh

8:56

this AI agents to work on your behalf

8:58

because you know how to use it and you

9:00

know how to implement into your

9:01

processes and your workflows you're

9:03

going to give it the task this is my

9:05

event this is what we're trying to

9:06

accomplish this is the vision this is

9:08

the why all the things that normally you

9:10

would as you're planning an event and

9:12

then you're going to see your AI agents

9:13

literally do the work for you all the

9:16

way from sourcing uh venues sending rfps

9:19

out getting your room blocks negotiating

9:22

prices getting the right Partners to uh

9:25

be part of the event getting the right

9:26

sponsors to be part of the event all the

9:28

way to the end where you're going to CT

9:31

capture um surveys and then repurpose

9:34

the content that you capture during the

9:35

event so you have that engagement

9:37

throughout the year right so this is

9:39

like the job of all of those AI agents

9:42

they work for you now if you're someone

9:45

that has low resources or maybe doesn't

9:48

have access to a

9:51

multi-million doll budget and a large

9:54

team that can do a lot of those things

9:56

for you why would you say no to a tool

10:00

that can get you so far ahead and it's

10:03

not hard like that's why my purpose has

10:05

been to provide a lot of education and

10:07

valuable content to the event industry

10:10

through my courses through the free live

10:12

streams that I do through the podcast

10:14

there's a lot of information you just

10:15

want to be willing to take advantage of

10:18

it I think it's that what puts people

10:20

off isn't it it's the where to start

10:21

that you said that I meet a lot of

10:23

people who are who are solopreneurs and

10:25

they'll say yeah I'm going to do that

10:26

next month I've just got a lot to do

10:28

this month and then I'm going to do do

10:29

that and you're like it's it's like this

10:31

will help you do what you need to do

10:33

this month you're just going to be brave

10:34

enough I think maybe to take yourself

10:36

out of the business for a few days and

10:38

just put your heads down and like like

10:40

you did when you were studying at Uni or

10:42

school and just go have to learn this AI

10:45

it's not hard my goodness CLA can do it

10:47

anyone can do it you should make a

10:49

purpose intent to say today I'm going to

10:52

learn something new and if I have 20

10:54

minutes to assign for that learning then

10:56

do it or you know your time spent on a

10:59

couch watching Netflix How about you

11:01

assign that time to something that will

11:04

Propel your career further and your

11:06

skill set for if you are in a job or

11:10

career or something where AI can

11:13

easily replace you it's time to up level

11:16

your skills and I'm serious and it's not

11:19

a some kind of a warning it's more like

11:21

this is where the future is going so you

11:23

don't want to be left behind you don't

11:25

want to be the last person to find out

11:27

oh my goodness my position just got um

11:31

removed replaced and that's happened a

11:33

lot especially with a lot of the tech

11:35

Giants because I was too complacent to

11:38

learn what I needed to learn when it was

11:40

the right time to learn it like to the

11:43

analogy with driving the car versus

11:44

flying an airplane you know but there is

11:46

a fear and I think that's an instinctive

11:47

thing I call this podcast not the same

11:49

as last year because it's so easy in a

11:52

way to not get out of your comfort zone

11:54

to get your Google Docs out that you've

11:56

always used and your little spreadsheets

11:58

and just go through through well this is

12:00

how we've always done it why am I going

12:02

to do it differently and they that's

12:03

with every aspect of planning so you

12:06

know AI I also want to talk about that

12:09

idea that everything we want to do is to

12:11

put the attendee first and ultimately if

12:13

you're going to put the attendee first

12:14

you're going to do the best that you can

12:15

you're going to do the most modern the

12:17

most exciting the things that they're

12:18

doing there's no point just saying oh

12:20

we've got a session on AI in our event

12:22

which happens and then you've not used

12:26

you know how many times clear it's

12:27

happened where like oh we have a poll

12:30

we've covered the interaction the

12:32

engagement part of the stock know I know

12:36

I know it's oh oh we' we've got it we've

12:38

made our sessions 30 minutes we've got

12:40

it

12:42

like and then you're throwing the baby

12:44

out with a bath water aren't you because

12:45

actually your session doesn't need to be

12:47

30 minutes long if it's really

12:49

interactive really interesting session

12:50

exactly does have to be but it's yeah

12:53

and this is it I think we are battling

12:55

that I understand the going out of your

12:59

comfort zone I understand the fear but

13:01

let's just go back all the way where

13:03

like when the calculators came out like

13:07

calculators that we don't even use

13:08

anymore because they're on our phones

13:10

right but when it first came out there

13:12

was this whole fear in the basically in

13:15

the education space that Educators and

13:19

teachers and professors are go are going

13:22

to be replaced by this one calculator

13:25

that now could do the job of teaching

13:27

people how to do equation ience and

13:31

aggressive math right did that happen no

13:35

it became a tool where we were way

13:38

faster at making those calculations that

13:42

otherwise would have taken you know all

13:45

what it's not just 1 plus one equals two

13:47

right so going with that analogy to our

13:49

present to how AI is really enhancing a

13:53

lot of the processes a lot of the

13:54

workflows that we do that's just a tool

13:58

now it's still required

13:59

at least in our time and space right now

14:03

a human to dictate which direction what

14:07

output what kind of outcome are you

14:09

looking for right we're not yet yet in

14:11

the AGI space we're going to get there

14:14

but if we get there and you haven't even

14:16

tried the narrow AI opportunities that

14:20

we're experiencing right now when we

14:23

have this super

14:27

intelligent whatever

14:30

taking over a lot of those processes

14:33

you're not going to be able to keep up

14:35

to understand how this works and where

14:37

are you going to fit yourself into that

14:40

whole picture so my I guess

14:43

encouragement is start small whatever

14:46

you are if this is your first time

14:48

hearing Chad GPT be curious to find out

14:51

what it is what it could do for you

14:53

there is a lot of free education on

14:55

prompting actually I have on my own

14:57

profile on LinkedIn several videos that

15:00

I have put uh as LinkedIn live

15:03

educational um videos where you can

15:07

learn how to prompt chat GPT properly so

15:09

you can get the output that you want

15:11

because then there's also this thing

15:13

where well I go and I try it and oh this

15:15

is so to terrible because you don't know

15:17

how to prompt it because you don't know

15:20

what you're looking for as an output so

15:22

you're going to get kind of like trash

15:23

in trash out that's the reality right so

15:26

training yourself to learn a little bit

15:29

uh one step at a time because it takes a

15:32

bit of intentionality to want to move

15:35

with the technology to move with the

15:37

future but I in my opinion it's better

15:41

to do it now as we're you know advancing

15:44

at this space versus um one year later a

15:48

few months later I mean things are

15:50

changing really really fast I wanted to

15:52

ask you because you gave a really good

15:54

description at the beginning of the

15:56

possibility for an event planner you

15:57

know you're looking at the huge great

15:59

big event that could happen and how you

16:01

could make it happen on the simplest

16:03

level if you think what could I do

16:06

tomorrow that will immediately make my

16:07

life quicker as an event planner I think

16:10

the simplest way to get into all of this

16:13

is really to give it a try right right

16:16

now any browser on your computer that

16:19

you're going to install has some form of

16:22

AI uh enabler right so if this is uh

16:26

Microsoft they will have Bing if this is

16:29

Google they have Gemini so you have it

16:31

at your fingerprints you don't even have

16:33

to have per se chpt premium to go and

16:36

use it right even though chpt has been

16:39

kind of the first one to come out in a

16:41

very um intentional manner to change the

16:45

way we interact with llms um I would

16:49

start there I would go and input like

16:51

let's get let's take an example player

16:53

uh say for this podcast you were hey I

16:56

want to have this conversation with Anka

16:58

I'm Cur I'm kind of like I want to know

17:00

what I'm going to ask her but I would

17:01

actually like to um generate a few extra

17:05

questions on this particular topic that

17:07

we're going to uncover today and I need

17:10

some help so you literally would go to

17:12

chpd or whatever form of AI that you

17:15

have embedded into your browser if you

17:17

don't have chpd um as a subscription

17:21

whatever and you would ask okay um act

17:24

as a podcast Host this is my guest this

17:27

is what we're going to talk about um

17:29

generate a couple of extra more uh

17:31

questions or some ice breakers right for

17:34

this conversation we're going to have or

17:36

some interesting trivia facts about the

17:40

event industry that we're going to

17:41

sprinkle throughout the conversation

17:42

just to make it more engaging

17:44

interactive or whatever right um sure

17:47

you might have access in your head to

17:49

all of that information but let me tell

17:51

you I bad that you have a limited supply

17:55

of that so then you're using your AI

17:59

assistant to give you more input let's

18:01

say you're planning an event and you're

18:03

like I'm running out of idea because we

18:04

used to do the same team every year and

18:06

people are kind of tired of this Western

18:08

theme and they're kind of tired of this

18:10

Cowboy theme and kind of tired of this

18:11

like doing the same thing again and

18:13

again right I W to do something

18:15

different now you have some information

18:18

related to your van you want to again

18:20

prompt your llm your

18:23

AI help helpful agent in some way so you

18:27

can start with a common knowledge of

18:30

what you're trying to accomplish because

18:32

you could go with zero point prompting

18:34

which just means hey give me some ideas

18:36

for some events that I could plan and

18:38

you're going to get a very wide range

18:41

that some of it might be applicable some

18:43

of it might be like yeah there's no way

18:45

we're not going to doing a Barbie team

18:48

event or whatever right so if you have

18:51

some information based on the history of

18:52

the events that you've done you have

18:53

some analytics some data that you can

18:55

pull off now you actually can really be

18:59

tactical and strategic in your searches

19:01

in your prompting so you can get an

19:03

output an outcome that is relevant to

19:07

what you're searching right and I

19:08

promise you I mean I'm sure both me and

19:10

you have done this many times over just

19:12

in the way we you know we want to just

19:14

bring something different to our events

19:16

to our speaking engagement to our

19:17

podcast conversations and there's so

19:21

much opportunity out there beyond your

19:23

own capacity being in the AV production

19:26

business I get clients all the time

19:28

coming with literally two pieces of

19:31

information when they're asking about

19:32

can you generate a proposal for me or a

19:35

or a quote how much would it cost to do

19:37

this event and then that's it so I don't

19:41

have a date I don't have uh any

19:44

information about what kind of a are we

19:46

looking for I don't have any information

19:48

about your location uh audience size uh

19:52

agenda none of it right and then we just

19:55

go back and forth back and forth like to

19:56

find all of this now I was like you know

19:58

what I normally have a list of questions

20:01

that it's kind of like a screening form

20:04

that when I have a conversation with a

20:05

client I would ask them all of those

20:07

questions so then when I send them that

20:10

proposal like initial estimate it hits

20:13

on their specific needs right so I was

20:17

like okay here's the questions that I

20:18

normally ask now dear Chad GPD helpful

20:22

helpful um assistant can you put this in

20:26

a format that is easy to read simplify

20:29

it basically uh make it concise and

20:31

straightforward and I got a form

20:34

generated that it turned into a lant

20:37

article but again who came with all of

20:39

the knowledge yeah behind it right

20:42

that's what I think a lot of people get

20:43

sort of like turn off by oh I don't want

20:46

to use chat GPT because it's cheating is

20:48

it really because as far as I'm

20:50

concerned every piece of article every

20:52

piece of blog post it has come from my

20:55

knowledge and let me tell you as a

20:57

English as a second language speaker

20:59

because uh I grew up in Romania that's

21:02

my native language to me this has been

21:05

like the blessing of them all blessings

21:07

because sometimes even after 20

21:09

something years in us and 30 years of

21:12

speaking English I don't always get the

21:15

you know specifics of the English

21:19

grammar this is helpful to me like now I

21:22

can sound like a Sant even though I'm

21:24

like I can barely speak English well

21:27

don't worry as you get older anyway

21:28

forget all the languages you know

21:30

sometimes I don't get information

21:32

exactly like you as a supplier I get a

21:34

request for your fees for some event

21:37

with no detail around it exactly and

21:39

then you're trying to get them into a

21:40

call and a lot of people don't want to

21:41

do calls because they're busy a lot of

21:43

people want to just do it on an email

21:45

and you're wasting so much time so

21:47

absolutely that form you suggest and I'm

21:49

going to steal that idea it it's just

21:53

helps you and I think also with me one

21:55

of the biggest things I don't get a lot

21:56

of information in time you've got

21:58

another event on another subject and

22:00

you're still trying to get the BIOS from

22:01

the speakers to put together your

22:02

engines and you get this bio that's

22:05

terrible that's been written ages have a

22:08

helpful tool for that um this AI agent

22:10

that I was using and deploying into

22:12

event planning that again I'm teaching

22:13

on during my course literally would

22:17

would go to the LinkedIn profile of this

22:19

one speaker that you're trying to uh beg

22:23

them to send you their bio and it will

22:26

pull all the relevant information from

22:28

their profile and rewrite it in a

22:31

paragraph bardine is one of the tools

22:33

that I use for that so A simple uh

22:36

example there is say that you have a

22:38

really cool post on something there's a

22:40

lot of Engagement and now You' be

22:42

interested to know who those people are

22:44

and maybe interact with them uh on a you

22:46

know more personal way because they

22:48

could be leads for you right so this

22:51

automation that you can build in bardine

22:53

would literally go to that one post and

22:56

then take all of those people and all of

22:59

their comments and their LinkedIn

23:00

profile their information in you know

23:03

including email and everything they they

23:05

have posted publicly on the LinkedIn

23:07

profile and extract it into a

23:09

spreadsheet so next time you take that

23:11

spreadsheet and now the next step could

23:13

be part of the same automation to draft

23:16

a personalized email to each one of

23:19

those then have it sit in your draft in

23:22

your email uh box so that you can review

23:25

it again you should always review what

23:27

an llm does

23:29

and then send it out that's amazing not

23:32

automatically tools are

23:35

available knowledge is available but you

23:39

have to want to learn either how to use

23:43

it how to implement it or if it's even

23:45

for

23:46

you yeah I mean that what you're saying

23:49

there you know I think oh I'm so clever

23:51

I do this I save my LinkedIn posts and I

23:53

go through them and I make a story but

23:54

you know that's the next level and

23:56

that's the next level and that's using

23:57

the automation which I'm thinking I

23:59

don't know how to do that but because

24:00

I've done a little bit of AI I'm

24:02

thinking okay that's that's something

24:04

that I could learn to do if I can do

24:06

something more effectively more

24:08

productively um it is a win for me

24:11

because aside from my pro professional

24:14

Endeavors I also have personal goals

24:17

that take time right like when I'm in

24:19

the gym working out for an hour and a

24:21

half every single day six days a week

24:23

because I have a goal to compete in this

24:26

next bodybuilding show

24:29

I need to find time for that I don't

24:32

have more than 24 hours like everyone

24:34

else and I really really like my sleep

24:35

to

24:36

be recharging and uh recovering and good

24:40

so I don't I don't cut any uh steps and

24:44

any uh Corners when it comes to my sleep

24:47

so if I can gain you know extra hours in

24:50

my day from sleep then I have to gain

24:53

them somewhere else so then if I can

24:56

improve my processes and become more

24:58

productive and more effective and now I

25:00

have an hour and a half two hours at my

25:03

disposal every single day so I can go

25:05

into the gym and do the things that I

25:07

want to do personally then I don't know

25:09

what to tell you but to me that's such a

25:11

hard sell you can convince me not to do

25:14

it because I'm like it's in my advantage

25:16

you

25:17

know yeah it's the personal impact that

25:20

AI is having as well well you know

25:21

you're a total proponent for using it I

25:24

love that and I I think people will have

25:28

got got something out of this even if

25:29

they thought they knew how to use Ai and

25:32

maybe at the beginning when we were

25:33

talking and we were saying get in now

25:35

when it's early I think you proved

25:36

there's just so much that we are

25:39

literally nibbling at the possibilities

25:41

at the moment absolutely and have a lot

25:45

of resources that are free on my

25:47

LinkedIn profile my YouTube pages and

25:50

then if you want to take a little step

25:51

uh you know forward and put a little bit

25:53

of investment behind it then I have

25:56

courses that really tackle different

25:58

aspects of the event planning of the

26:00

business running of uh of events as well

26:02

because I'm a a business owner as well

26:04

so for me as much as it's important to

26:06

know how to use AI in events it's also

26:08

very much important to know how to use

26:10

AI in my everyday business operations

26:12

and processes right so there's multiple

26:14

things that you can do now I would start

26:18

with small steps pick one tool that you

26:21

feel like you're going to be most likely

26:22

to use it and then learn more about it

26:25

like learn how to prompt it correctly

26:27

learn how to use use it in your everyday

26:30

workflow right to figure out if that's

26:32

something that you can take it at on a

26:33

larger scale because again when you're

26:35

planning an event you also have a lot of

26:37

stakeholders that you got to talk to you

26:39

want to be able to give them a good

26:41

report but if you use it in a small ways

26:44

and then you're confident enough to use

26:46

it in larger ways it's just it's just

26:48

going to happen automatically you no

26:50

longer have to fear that it's going to I

26:53

don't know mess up your event somehow

26:55

somewhere yeah because you're always

26:56

going in and checking it as well as

26:58

you're going through it just as you

26:59

would be with maybe a junior member of

27:02

your team you would be double checking

27:03

before you agreed it I'm going to try

27:05

all these different things it's really

27:07

exciting thank you so much because I'm

27:09

there's so much there for people who are

27:11

just getting their toe in the water and

27:12

how they can make their event better for

27:16

them which is ultimately going to mean

27:17

they've got all the time to make it

27:18

better for the attendee which is what

27:20

it's all about which it makes it all

27:21

better for us both on the supplier

27:24

partner side or the attendee side yeah

27:27

so that was great well n it so much from

27:29

Anka there to get us started on our AI

27:31

journey in event and I will make sure

27:34

that we share all the information that

27:36

she has given us and all about how to

27:38

get hold of her and how to get on to her

27:39

courses on the show notes I'd love to

27:42

hear how you're getting on with your AI

27:44

Journey how it's helping you in events

27:46

so do drop me a line either on social

27:49

media or via my website and tell me how

27:52

you're using it and also join us next

27:55

week where we're going to be talking

27:57

about the panel is it time to retire the

28:01

event panel I look forward to seeing you