Marvin: Hey folks, it's Marvin Cash, the host of The Articulate Flower,

Marvin: back with another On the Water with Dustin White. Dustin, how are you?

Dustin: Marvin, I'm doing well. How are you, my friend?

Marvin: I'm trying to stay out of trouble and you're trying to smooth it over. Yeah.

Marvin: Yeah, what folks don't know is you were out pulling for carp and you fell off the platform.

Marvin: And I'll let you take it from there about phone troubles at 18 inches of water

Marvin: and all that kind of good stuff.

Dustin: Yeah had a had a client uh on

Dustin: the bow another that was uh under my

Dustin: pulling platform and the one that under the platform got really excited when

Dustin: i caught on a fish and uh jumped up uh boat to kind of shimmied and uh yeah

Dustin: took a tumble off the the platform and uh phone was in my pocket it and fell

Dustin: in some pretty shallow water on it.

Dustin: So the iPhone, the former iPhone 13 is no more.

Dustin: And so I had to do the obligatory upgrade, even though I wasn't expecting it.

Dustin: But we're all good. So a little bit of a pinch back, but everything's all good.

Marvin: Yeah, I never knew that an iPhone could break your fall like that.

Dustin: Yeah, it really, really helps.

Marvin: So you're going with the iPhone probably, what, 15 Pro or Pro Max?

Dustin: Yeah, yeah. I've heard they have a little more cushion for them coming off that polling platform.

Dustin: So I decided to do the upgrade.

Marvin: Yeah, well, they have an airbag in them now. It's kind of cool.

Dustin: Yeah, exactly.

Marvin: So as we get ready to kind of cruise into the 4th of July weekend,

Marvin: you know, it's kind of funny. We're down here in the southeast.

Marvin: I was telling you it's roasting. Like we've had, we've had a cool day today,

Marvin: but it's going to bounce right back up to the upper nineties and you're sitting

Marvin: there highs in the upper seventies, low eighties. It's got to be pretty sweet.

Marvin: What are you seeing out on the water?

Dustin: Yeah, it's been perfect temps. We're just so fortunate. It's such a pleasant time of year.

Dustin: In terms of bug life, you know, we've had our typical DMDs, caddis,

Dustin: yellow sallies, kind of across the board.

Dustin: Um our our golden stones on

Dustin: the mile are starting to pop so we're really really excited about

Dustin: that um it might even be you know

Dustin: popping by the time uh this this is published uh and podcast is out there for

Dustin: everybody so it's it's a any day now the golden stones on the mile are going

Dustin: to be popping so um probably some of the most you know exciting surf section

Dustin: that that folks uh can expect

Dustin: to see uh in this region of the country but um

Dustin: you know other than that you know um pmds like

Dustin: i said caddis uh tends to be the more

Dustin: favorable takes throughout the day uh later in

Dustin: the afternoon you know salaries are coming off and and folks can uh expect to

Dustin: see those uh being taken as well um but uh all in all pretty good on all fronts

Dustin: uh bighorn's pretty mossy um so you know just be aware of that you're gonna

Dustin: be casting lanes probably wouldn't nymph it probably would do.

Dustin: Some sort of dry dropper um you know

Dustin: first success there um they just dropped the flows of the reef on us so that's

Dustin: gonna you know consolidate this fish a little more central in the water column

Dustin: um but uh in in the later afternoon they're moving over into the shallow flats

Dustin: near the banks to to take tries.

Dustin: And like I said, on the mile front, it's any day now, as we're speaking,

Dustin: the golden stones are going to be popping.

Marvin: Yeah. And so how long does that hatch chain really last?

Dustin: Yeah, I mean, it's about a four or five day hatch itself.

Dustin: But there's a latency period of another four or five days where the fish are

Dustin: willing to take flies on the surface.

Dustin: So, you know, it's kind of like a nine to 10 day window, I typically tell folks.

Dustin: And so, literally, it's any day now. We've got, you know, it's big tear in our system.

Dustin: So, you know, we've got them out, the adults are out, they're flat around.

Dustin: Around, just starting to.

Dustin: So probably in the next couple of days, we're going to see those fish start to key in on them.

Dustin: And then you've got another, you know, eight, nine, 10 days after that first

Dustin: sort of emergence starts to occur where those fish will take a golden on the surface.

Marvin: Very, very cool. And, you know, folks, we love questions on the Articulate Fly.

Marvin: You can email them to us or DM us on social media. And one thing we've added

Marvin: recently, if you go to the podcast link on the website, down in the lower right-hand

Marvin: corner, there's a little microphone. You can actually record your question.

Marvin: And if we use that question, we'll actually play it on the episode. So kind of a cool thing.

Marvin: And if we use your question, I'll send you some articulate fly swag and then

Marvin: bring you a drawing for a half a day of fishing with Dustin.

Marvin: And Dustin, as we always do, we've got to give

Marvin: a shout-out to a local bar-slash-restaurant-slash-drinking-astalagement.

Marvin: What's on the list this time around?

Dustin: Yeah i gotta go to the the uh the local

Dustin: haunt of the silver fox silver fox is

Dustin: a historical uh steakhouse and bar here in casper wyoming um it's fantastic

Dustin: for us because it's you know mac dab right in the middle of our commute out

Dustin: from in town casper out to uh the crazy rainbow to your lodge, out to the Gray Reef.

Dustin: You pass it on your trek out to the water.

Dustin: And so it's such a great place.

Dustin: Fantastic steaks. Chiller bartender service. Everyone there is so fantastic.

Dustin: And the legendary bacon knots that still haunt my dreams, Marvin, are pretty fantastic.

Dustin: The Silver Fox is is such a cool spot and whenever we have guests in town and

Dustin: they ask, hey, where should I go to eat tonight?

Dustin: That's always one of the first recommendations we give to folks.

Marvin: Yeah, sounds pretty neat. And so you gotta tell me a little bit more about the

Marvin: bacon knots, what makes them so special?

Dustin: There's probably some illicit substance wrapped in them, but they literally break bacon.

Dustin: And it's more like a dessert appetizer than it would be anything else.

Dustin: There's kind of a sweet, maple-y glaze on them. And yeah, just pretty addicting.

Dustin: So you can't stop with one. They're pretty fantastic.

Marvin: And you're saying the secret sauce is like ayahuasca or mescaline or something like that?

Dustin: Something like that. PCP, who knows? It's Angel Dust.

Dustin: I don't know, but whatever it is, it's fantastic.

Marvin: Yeah, that's pretty old school there. I haven't heard anyone talk about Angel

Marvin: Dust in a while. Have you been watching like Old Hill Street Blues reruns or something?

Dustin: No no no

Dustin: uh but uh something's going on

Dustin: with these these bacon knots and they're they uh they definitely

Dustin: lend that way so um but yeah um anytime

Dustin: anyone's here in town uh they're right off cy avenue and uh silver fox the silver

Dustin: fox will take a real good care of you and yeah just a great local font and uh

Dustin: killer steaks killer walleye you know we got like a little uh crusted and walleye that they serve.

Dustin: So everything on the menu is incredible.

Dustin: The bar staff's great. We're really grateful to have them in town.

Marvin: Yeah, so did they put the walleye on the menu to pay homage to your Midwest heritage?

Dustin: I like to think so. I'm not sure if that's the actual case, but in my head,

Dustin: that's definitely what I like to believe.

Marvin: Yeah, with the progies on the side, right?

Dustin: Exactly. A little sauerkraut. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect.

Marvin: So you're telling me you're kind of in that sweet groove where the great thing

Marvin: about you is, you know, you're guiding so many repeat clients.

Marvin: It's like kind of old friends week for the next few weeks. You want to let folks,

Marvin: you know, know where you hang your hat, shop hours, how to book you and all that kind of good stuff.

Dustin: Yeah, absolutely. Yep. I probably guide for the ugly bug and crazy rainbow.

Dustin: We're located uh downtown casper on center street you can reach us at area code

Dustin: 307-234-6905 or uh if you want to reach out to me directly uh you can find me

Dustin: on instagram my handle is at dustin james white.

Marvin: Yeah well there you go and also folks if you go to the show notes on the website

Marvin: all of his links there and his bio so check it out and uh you know i want to

Marvin: wish everybody an absolutely safe and happy 4th of July.

Marvin: And you know, you owe it to yourself over the long weekend to get out there

Marvin: and catch a few. Tight lines, everybody. Tight lines, Dustin.

Dustin: Tight lines, Marvin. Thanks so much.