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[00:00:25] Eric Goranson: Welcome to the Around the House Show. Happy midweek everybody. It's hurt you here around the house. We have got a great show coming up this weekend. Don't want you to miss. But today in our midweek special, I wanted to bring up something that I'm seeing coming on the radar, which I think this could be a big deal one of these days, and it's preliminary, but I think it's something that we need to talk about.

[00:00:49] Eric Goranson: If you out there have gotten cabinets where you had a house built and, uh, j and k cabinetry. Had provided you with those cabinets. [00:01:00] This one you might wanna pay attention to, or if you're a builder remodeler and you've been using j and k cabinetry, this is something that's kind of interesting. So I had an attorney reach out to me here this last week cuz uh, well first off, we'll set the record straight on that.

[00:01:14] Eric Goranson: They actually had an ad going out, saying that they were looking, this law firm was looking at j and k cabinetry because, People that went in there and had bought those import cabinets with maple, and they said they were marketed as maple, were actually not maple. They were perch. So of course, And anytime that we see potential deceptive advertising, that makes me go, Hmm.

[00:01:46] Eric Goranson: Wonder what the story is on that. So I, I had a quick conversation with this attorney and, uh, he came back with this and he sent me over, uh, this big detail page, which was kind of hard to find. [00:02:00] It is the, uh, United States Court of Internal Trade, and it's this court case number 2109. , and it's kind of interesting because this is where cabins to go kind of gets brought into this as well.

[00:02:20] Eric Goranson: So there's a lot more to this when I'll be bringing him on, I think on the show in the future. But there was this case here this last year. And it was kind of interesting. So there was this case that came out from, uh, November 18th, 2021 an a Motion opinion and, uh, Beco it became before M Miller Baker, the judge for this.

[00:02:41] Eric Goranson: Okay? So there had been this big thing on tariffs and cabinet dumping and stuff from these, uh, Chinese cabinet companies into the us. They didn't actually rule so much on this because they said that was more for. Civil [00:03:00] litigation, but in their findings to see if these companies were dumping, and I'll say dumping cuz that's what they said they were doing cabinetry at Below cost into the United States.

[00:03:12] Eric Goranson: What came out of this was a very interesting finding by this judge and it's something I think we need to pay attention to because if you've worked out there, Maple is a different price. It's more expensive than birch typically. And I prefer maple over birch for a bunch of different reasons. Birch is a great wood.

[00:03:33] Eric Goranson: If you're going to, you know, if you're gonna be staining it, not so much if you're gonna be painting it. Yeah, it works. Okay. And Birch also has, you know, it has this basic greenness to it sometime, which you have to be careful with. Let's dive into this for just a second, because, uh, I think it's something if you have j and k cabinets or even cabinets to go, cabinets that were manufactured and [00:04:00] sold to you as Maple looks like there's a decent chance that that could be birch, which means, you know, that could have been deceptive to you.

[00:04:08] Eric Goranson: Now, I don't know about cabinets to go on this, how deep they are in this, but I know j and k cabinetry is, is a big part of this. So when they were doing their investigation, they were going through to see what the costs were, the federal government of the materials going in, and what they were selling 'em for here in the us.

[00:04:28] Eric Goranson: And basically, if you read through this to paraphrase it, they said, Wait a minute, there's a whole bunch of birch coming in the back door, and you got a bunch of maple coming out the front door. And they went, Well, yeah, they're, they're kind of close. Of course, the federal government went, no. So that's the interesting part of this, and I think that's fascinating, is that they didn't want to, as in they as in the federal government, didn't want to get involved in the deceptive part of this because they said, Well, [00:05:00] that's for the attorneys and, and class action lawsuits and that stuff kind of stuff to go after.

[00:05:06] Eric Goranson: So that's kind of where this is going, but um, we'll see what happens as this played out. But if you've got. J K cabinetry in your house. Maybe you bought it for a remodel or your builder put it in there, remodel or put it in there and you were told it was Maple, I'd be sure interested to talk to you so you can make sure and reach out to me over and around the house online.com.

[00:05:32] Eric Goranson: Or you can send something over to Twitter as well over there at uh, and just send me an instant message over there. But I'd be curious to see if you actually have Maple or if you've got Birch. Because there could be something there for you. So just something to keep an eye on, on. There's a lot more to this gonna be coming out over the next year or two.

[00:05:52] Eric Goranson: But, uh, I think it's something that I'm early in on here with this, that could be a huge deal with cabinetry out there, [00:06:00] where potentially a homeowner went in and bought it and then turned around only later to realize that they did not get the wood that they had paid for. So it's gonna be kind of interesting.

[00:06:14] Eric Goranson: So we'll see what happens with all of that. But, uh, if you do have anything, any knowledge of that or used to work for those guys, uh, gimme a call. I'm kind of doing some research on it, and it's my little research project for right now. And this is gonna be, uh, a little more interesting stuff and, uh, this is a, uh, interesting court case to follow.

[00:06:32] Eric Goranson: Uh, so we'll see how this goes. This next. And in other news from tool guide.com. That's G O I d.com, tool guide.com. Looks like they're reporting, uh, a couple days ago here that there is a Milwaukee Updated Impact Wrench potential issue. Now, I have the original version, one of this in full disclosure, and it does not.

[00:06:56] Eric Goranson: Have any issues to me in my one that I [00:07:00] have. So I have version one. This looks like this is version two, and this is the 27 67 M 18 heavy duty cordless impact wrench. It looks like they came up reading through this story that they have a new design and there have been reports now of failure of some of the new design parts that were in.

[00:07:20] Eric Goranson: So there's a couple different issues that I'm seeing. It looks like that there are, um, intermittent power delivery issues when the trigger switch is first pressed in certain modes, and then there seems to be a kind of a stutter for a few seconds at low speeds before operating full speed. But there has been also some mechanical failures where some pinmen coming.

[00:07:41] Eric Goranson: And, uh, the unit has been failing for certain people. So not gonna get into the details of the planet gears and all those different things, but, uh, it looks like that there could be an issue there where things might be coming apart. So something to keep an eye on. Milwaukee says they're taken it very seriously and they're [00:08:00] investigating it, which I know they will.

[00:08:01] Eric Goranson: They are good at that. Uh, Milwaukee is by no means a perfect company out there. Sometimes these things get out in the real world and, uh, what didn't go out through testing shows up and, uh, well, these things happen to every. Tool manufacturer out there. So they're gonna take a look at it. Uh, Milwaukee did give a statement out that says, we take all feedback seriously, and our teams are actively investigating this claim.

[00:08:22] Eric Goranson: If anyone in your audience has experienced Disfat dissatisfaction, please send 'em our way. They can return the tool to Milwaukee for repair, utilizing their e-service portal. and, uh, they can have it taken a look by Milwaukee technicians to see if it's covered into the warranty. And that way you can determine, you know, what's covered, what's not.

[00:08:43] Eric Goranson: Uh, all tools repaired with genuine Milwaukee parts and the average turnaround time is seven to 10 business days. They can also have their tool repaired through their nearest authorized service, and uh, you can do that as well. So just be careful, guys, if you have that new B model out there. Keep an eye on that.

[00:08:59] Eric Goranson: Uh, [00:09:00] they're saying that, uh, if you have the model 27 67 with the serial numbers starting with H 96 B, keep your receipt. It looks like the issue might only affect some, but not all rev B models. So take a peek at that and make sure that you've got that receipt. Um, Milwaukee, of course, I think we'll stand behind this pretty well.

[00:09:21] Eric Goranson: They've never had an issue with them not standing behind their tools on that. So if there is an issue, I'm sure they. Come up with a solution for it if there is an issue. So that's gonna be a good one to keep an eye on. All right, everybody. Well, we've got a great show coming up here, uh, this weekend. I have got Hugh from Human Made.

[00:09:39] Eric Goranson: You might have seen him on Instagram. YouTube. He builds, he does woodworking, leather working. He builds so many different things out there from big tables to. Built in bookcases that move to leather, to chain mail to lots of different things. It's gonna be a great show about a [00:10:00] builder out there that's doing a lot.

[00:10:01] Eric Goranson: And then hour number two, we've got a masterclass on decks coming out. And this is gonna be huge cuz we've got Dr. Decks in the studio and that is gonna be a big show. If you're thinking about building a deck, what his secrets are to deck building, what's his tools, what's the screws he use, what's his recommendations and what's coming up in the.

[00:10:22] Eric Goranson: So that is going to be a huge show coming up on Saturday that you don't wanna miss. Now, I do wanna say I'm very happy about lumber prices going down now. Not all lumber prices are down, and I think they still have a long way to go. As Dr. Dex will be telling you in this weekend, show, him and I were talking and we bring up the fact that.

[00:10:44] Eric Goranson: A lot of lumber still hasn't come down yet, especially when we get into beams and glue lambs and that stuff. It's still through the roof in many cases, so we still have a way to go. But I wanted to bring up something that I saw with, uh, Roseburg Lumber this last, uh, [00:11:00] week that was very important. You know, we have lumber grading, right?

[00:11:04] Eric Goranson: So when you go down to the lumber yard or the hardware store to go buy some two by forges or something, it'll say on there what the stamp is of what the lumber is graded. Now what's interesting is that lumber really doesn't have an appearance grade. It's not really being graded on visual attractiveness, it's actually by strength.

[00:11:26] Eric Goranson: So they're basically looking at it and go, How strong is this? Two by four, for instance. So it's, it's pretty difficult, but you know how they do it. It began back in the early twenties, like 1922. And finally the American Lumber Standard, what's published in 1920. But even though we're coming up on, geez, a hundred years of that, there are things that get changed from time to time as we get smarter and, and we do a better job of it.

[00:11:54] Eric Goranson: You know, for instance, right now, Douglas for Lumber is graded on a scale of one to four, [00:12:00] with one being the highest grade, and then in many cases, lumbers also rated with a number of by like number one or number two, and better. And number two and better just means that it could be number two and number one pieces of lumber within that.

[00:12:16] Eric Goranson: But grading a lumber is also kind of confusing because other wood products are graded on more visual characteristics. So when you're looking at lumber, number one grade is great for strength and performance, but there could be still visual defects that aren't really pretty right cuz it's done on strength.

[00:12:37] Eric Goranson: So that's kind of interesting. So if you wanna get into appearance grade stuff, that's where you gotta get into other stuff like that where it's created on appearance, not on lumber. Now they've made some changes now, which is kind of interesting to what they call prior select. And you're like, What is prior Select?

[00:12:59] Eric Goranson: So think [00:13:00] about it, when you have a. Rack of lumber that is, let's say two and better. So two and one nps, which no prior select means that nobody has gone through and hydrated and pulled out the best looking stuff out of there. So that way. Because, you know, not all mills separate out the visually appearing, you know, peeling grades of lumber.

[00:13:32] Eric Goranson: So no prior select units haven't been sorted through and high graded, and they still retain the, you know, kind of like full spectrum of material that falls into a grade no matter how. Look, nice it looks. So what this is gonna do is when you're looking at a, a, you know, a rack of lumber out there, you're gonna be able to see that when it says nps.

[00:13:53] Eric Goranson: No prior select. Okay, cool. This is a regular bunk of lumber where if it just says [00:14:00] two and better, it might have had the ones and the pretty stuff out of it. So it's all gonna be kind of number two mostly, and all the uh, pretty clearwood hasn't been taken out of it. So it's just gonna be another thing for grading out there then I think it's gonna make a difference cuz I think it's gonna really show you what that.

[00:14:19] Eric Goranson: Lumber is inside that bunk that you're gonna get a natural selection of what goes in there versus somebody going through and going, Oh, that's pretty, that's pretty, that's pretty. And you getting definitely more twos than you would out of a two and better since it's been hydrated. So something to think about and, uh, it's something that not all mills are gonna do, but, uh, I think it's gonna help clear.

[00:14:41] Eric Goranson: When you see that. And so it looks like Roseburg Lumber is going to be the first one offering that, uh, nps. So when you see that nps, you'll know what it means out there as you're searching for lumber. All right, everybody. Well, it's time to get going. I've got meetings to head out too. And I just wanted to say [00:15:00] thanks for tuning into the round the house we've got as we set a big show ahead this week.

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[00:15:24] Eric Goranson: Maybe you're traveling around, you're working in the yard, or getting. Projects done inside as we get into fall. All right, everybody. Have a great rest of the week and thanks again for listening to

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