1 00:00:06,798 --> 00:00:11,039 Well, hello and welcome to Binge Watch, the podcast where we take a look at the hottest 2 00:00:11,100 --> 00:00:16,822 new TV and film releases on streaming television platforms. I'm Hannah Fernando, the group editor 3 00:00:16,882 --> 00:00:23,005 of Woman and Woman at Home magazine. And this week we have a really very special guest because 4 00:00:23,045 --> 00:00:29,188 Kyren Thrax, the winner of Drag Race UK Season 6, joins Ian and I. Kyren, as you know, is 5 00:00:29,208 --> 00:00:32,830 a member of the drag group Dracula's Child and is currently on tour. 6 00:00:37,012 --> 00:00:43,096 all an in-depth look at the queens of season 17, specifically their audition tapes. Now 7 00:00:43,176 --> 00:00:51,722 talking of audition tapes, over to you Ian. So Kyren on Hello Hello, you take a look at 8 00:00:51,862 --> 00:00:57,787 the queens audition tapes and I just wondered what you remember about your audition tape 9 00:00:57,827 --> 00:01:01,489 or what you think of it looking back now. I mean it obviously must have done the trick. 10 00:01:02,162 --> 00:01:07,166 Yeah, I mean, I love my audition tape, my season six tape. I've gone back and I've not watched 11 00:01:07,266 --> 00:01:11,890 it, rewatched it properly since, but I remember, you know, you spend a lot of time with it when 12 00:01:11,910 --> 00:01:15,233 you're, when you're auditioning for Drag Race, that you're constantly looking at every single 13 00:01:15,273 --> 00:01:19,236 section, making sure it's all perfect before you send it off and you have to edit it down 14 00:01:19,596 --> 00:01:23,351 to such a small like. You know, you film so much footage and you have to cram it all into 15 00:01:23,391 --> 00:01:29,053 like the timeframe. Um, see, I feel like I could, I know it inside and out. And I remember just 16 00:01:29,073 --> 00:01:35,536 feeling so proud of my season six tape. I applied for season four, five and six, but six was 17 00:01:35,576 --> 00:01:41,579 the one where I, before I even filmed anything for it, I named the project on the editing 18 00:01:41,619 --> 00:01:45,700 software. I named the project, the one that gets me on. I just knew it. I felt it in my 19 00:01:45,740 --> 00:01:50,527 bones and I just had so much fun with it. And I just saw it as kind of like a little film 20 00:01:50,567 --> 00:01:54,951 that I was making, you know, I've got to like be the director, like create anything I wanted 21 00:01:54,971 --> 00:02:00,235 to create and just showcase what I do and who I am. But looking back on it, obviously, you 22 00:02:00,255 --> 00:02:05,419 know, it feels like a slightly baby version of Kyren because, you know, you go through 23 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:09,663 drag race and you come out the other end and you feel like you've grown to be 10 times, 24 00:02:10,664 --> 00:02:15,708 10 times more than you, than you were. Um, so yeah, it's nice to look back at it and think, 25 00:02:15,748 --> 00:02:22,843 you know, of all the things she had to come. Yeah. And how has winning changed your life? 26 00:02:22,883 --> 00:02:29,205 I mean, clearly quite a lot. Oh my gosh. It's been bananas. It's been absolutely bananas. 27 00:02:29,705 --> 00:02:33,626 It's everything I've jumped over more. And I'm just so excited for the rest of this year and 28 00:02:33,986 --> 00:02:38,427 the rest of my life. And just to get to do the things that I've always wanted to do and to 29 00:02:38,467 --> 00:02:44,009 have the people there watching and wanting to see what I'm going to do and, you know, to 30 00:02:44,049 --> 00:02:50,808 have that, that money behind me now. It just feels incredible. And I'm touring right now 31 00:02:50,908 --> 00:02:56,491 and I'm going to all of these random towns and cities. And, you know, I predominantly would 32 00:02:56,511 --> 00:03:00,573 spend all of my time in London before Drag Race, but now getting to go to all of these regional 33 00:03:00,593 --> 00:03:06,436 places and to meet all of the fans and all of these people, it just is amazing. It really 34 00:03:06,496 --> 00:03:13,180 is amazing. Like, I just can't explain how grateful I am and how grateful I always will be. You've 35 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:19,721 got a huge fan base, haven't you? Do they follow you? Are they following you everywhere? There 36 00:03:19,761 --> 00:03:26,626 is a group of people. There's a very dedicated fan base that will come to everything that 37 00:03:26,646 --> 00:03:32,071 I'm doing, which is just absolutely amazing. And then there's the fans that I get to meet 38 00:03:32,611 --> 00:03:38,797 in all of the other places. I just went to Europe with Alyssa on tour, which was so incredible, 39 00:03:38,837 --> 00:03:43,120 to get to go meet fans in Amsterdam and Berlin. And I'm just so excited to do more of that 40 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:51,253 stuff and just to... go give myself and my art to fans in places that would never have got 41 00:03:51,313 --> 00:03:56,236 it before. Do you know what I mean? And now I get to go and do that. And how did you find 42 00:03:56,976 --> 00:04:05,941 sort of the transition from performer to presenter? Oh, it was in for Hello, Hello. Yeah, it was. 43 00:04:05,961 --> 00:04:11,204 Well, it was all very fast paced because, you know, like I'd literally only just won. It 44 00:04:11,224 --> 00:04:17,795 was my first drag con. Like everything was just... going a million miles a second. So put that 45 00:04:17,835 --> 00:04:21,257 show together was, you know, we all came together, put our heads together and was like, let's 46 00:04:21,297 --> 00:04:25,419 do this. Like, it sounds like really fun. And, you know, I've done a lot of that kind of hosty 47 00:04:25,459 --> 00:04:30,801 stuff over my career anyway, but it kind of just felt a little like relaxed to me. Do you 48 00:04:30,822 --> 00:04:35,464 know what I mean? Like, I kind of saw it selfishly as an opportunity for me to get to know all 49 00:04:35,524 --> 00:04:38,785 of my new sisters that were coming into the franchise. Do you know what I mean? Like, I... 50 00:04:39,198 --> 00:04:44,100 I think they're all so lovely, so charming, so talented. And I just saw it as, you know, 51 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,483 I'm just gonna sit down and have a chin wag with these girls. Yeah, it comes across as 52 00:04:48,523 --> 00:04:52,945 like a nice, lovely, relaxed chat, you know, it's great. Yeah, no, it really was. And that's, 53 00:04:52,965 --> 00:04:58,108 you know, that's down to them as well. Like they are just all so lovely and so professional. 54 00:04:58,668 --> 00:05:01,650 And I just had a blast. I had a blast with all of them. I have so much love and respect for 55 00:05:01,670 --> 00:05:07,513 all of them. And, you know, I'm glad that that's coming across. What do you remember about first 56 00:05:07,593 --> 00:05:15,279 seeing? Drag Race on TV. Oh my gosh. So the first time I watched Drag Race, I was in college. 57 00:05:15,499 --> 00:05:24,405 I was 16 or 17 and I started watching season six of US Drag Race, which is so like full 58 00:05:24,465 --> 00:05:30,490 circle. Cause then I went on to win season six of UK Drag Race. Yeah. And I just remember 59 00:05:30,510 --> 00:05:37,238 looking at Adore Delano and thinking like, wow, like that is somebody. with so much star power 60 00:05:37,358 --> 00:05:43,180 and just so much relatability and charisma and I'd always get compared to, that's the reason 61 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:48,301 why I started watching that season actually is because people at college that were watching 62 00:05:48,341 --> 00:05:52,903 the show were comparing me to Adore and saying that I reminded them of her. So then I watched 63 00:05:52,923 --> 00:05:58,664 that and I saw it and I was like, she's just so amazing and relatable and she's having so 64 00:05:58,684 --> 00:06:05,415 much fun. And then it ended up being about. four years later that I started dabbling into 65 00:06:05,455 --> 00:06:12,459 drag myself. Ha ha ha. Brilliant. Some of those shows though, honestly, I mean, Ian will tell 66 00:06:12,479 --> 00:06:17,843 you, I'm a massive fan and some of the arguments and some of the fights that happened on there, 67 00:06:18,103 --> 00:06:23,850 I always wonder, are they actually real? I mean, is what you see exactly what happened? Yes, 68 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:30,934 yes, yes. So what you see is what is happening. But it is a room, it is a room with a lot of 69 00:06:30,994 --> 00:06:38,559 personalities, a lot of drag queens, and we are all in a very small bubble that's a very 70 00:06:38,619 --> 00:06:43,242 high pressure environment where we all want to do incredibly well. So, yeah, when you mix 71 00:06:43,262 --> 00:06:48,004 that with a singular cocktail and untucked, you know, anything can happen. 72 00:06:51,298 --> 00:06:57,903 Did they have to cut much? Not really, no, not really. You know, we gave them, we gave them 73 00:06:57,963 --> 00:07:02,927 it all. And it is, you know, it is, it's one of those things like you never really know 74 00:07:02,988 --> 00:07:11,414 until, until you get there. But it is, you know, it's, it's real. Have you had any very, very 75 00:07:11,435 --> 00:07:19,061 famous people coming to watch you that we wouldn't know of? Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean, it definitely 76 00:07:19,101 --> 00:07:25,446 happened. Yeah, one of my, like the wildest things was Tracy Beaker, Danny Harmer reaching 77 00:07:25,526 --> 00:07:29,129 out to me. I just look at my phone. Amazing. Voice notes from Danny Harmer and I'm like, 78 00:07:29,169 --> 00:07:34,954 this person is my childhood. It's just, yeah. I mean, I'm sure there's a million others as 79 00:07:34,994 --> 00:07:39,878 well, but it is, it's one of the most surreal things in the world. Just having people that 80 00:07:39,898 --> 00:07:43,761 you've looked up to and other queens as well that you've looked up to since way before I'd 81 00:07:43,801 --> 00:07:48,625 even started doing drag, you know, now being in my circle and being, you know, my peers 82 00:07:48,745 --> 00:07:53,076 is. still kind of a shock to the system. Like it feels correct, but it is still very like, 83 00:07:53,136 --> 00:07:58,739 oh, okay, this is my life now. I mean, you're living your absolute best life, aren't you? 84 00:07:58,759 --> 00:08:02,701 I mean, it's absolutely brilliant and everything is fantastic. Is there, do you have a dream 85 00:08:02,741 --> 00:08:09,746 of something that you absolutely always wanted to do that you still want to do? Oh, gosh, 86 00:08:09,786 --> 00:08:15,449 it's endless. It really is endless. I wanna put on my own show that I have full creative 87 00:08:15,489 --> 00:08:23,276 control over. I direct, I fund, I do all of the groundwork and put it on in West End and 88 00:08:23,716 --> 00:08:30,158 or Broadway. That's just always the dream, just to make my own little baby. And I have done 89 00:08:30,178 --> 00:08:36,860 that before, but that was when I was first starting drag. And now that I have the money and the 90 00:08:36,900 --> 00:08:43,502 following that will want to see it, and I'm just very excited to share my art. And also 91 00:08:43,542 --> 00:08:49,005 I want to do as much as I can. I want to do more film, more TV, more hosting. Um, like 92 00:08:49,325 --> 00:08:54,288 I want to do it all. I feel like I've got the skills that I have, but I also want to do as 93 00:08:54,348 --> 00:08:58,170 much as I can. Cause I feel like you never really stop growing as an artist and as a person. 94 00:08:58,550 --> 00:09:03,653 I want to push myself out of my comfort zone as much as I can and expand, expand my brain. 95 00:09:05,494 --> 00:09:11,017 And what do you think has been the impact of Drag Race? Cause obviously it's been sort of 96 00:09:11,077 --> 00:09:16,195 franchised around the world. What's what's the impact being on the drag scene and kind of 97 00:09:16,375 --> 00:09:21,176 it's kind of been quite incorporated into what people might call the mainstream. Would that 98 00:09:21,196 --> 00:09:27,498 be a fair thing to say? Yeah, no, of course. Drag is very, very much mainstream now. You 99 00:09:27,518 --> 00:09:34,480 know, we're on prime time television. And it is just, it's amazing. It is amazing. Like, 100 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:40,141 my life has completely changed, like, and I can only speak from my perspective, but I came 101 00:09:40,181 --> 00:09:46,288 from nothing I spoke about on the show. I came from very little. I came from a lot of hardship 102 00:09:46,348 --> 00:09:53,071 and I never really... it was very easy for me to not see a way out of that. And a show like 103 00:09:53,091 --> 00:09:58,953 RuPaul's Drag Race has given me the platform to show what I can do, to show who I am and 104 00:09:58,993 --> 00:10:04,095 has completely changed my life. And it has for countless other people and countless other 105 00:10:04,115 --> 00:10:11,110 young people sitting at home will watch that and have the same feeling. You know, I think 106 00:10:11,650 --> 00:10:20,353 drag race has changed so much for, you know, the queer community as a whole. And I'm so 107 00:10:20,373 --> 00:10:24,895 grateful. I'm just still so giddy that I got to even be a part of it. But you know what, 108 00:10:24,915 --> 00:10:29,357 that's so lovely because we interview lots of people where it's just a thing for them. And 109 00:10:29,397 --> 00:10:34,363 I wonder, do you think it will ever just become... the fibre of your being that you are just, 110 00:10:34,423 --> 00:10:38,305 you know, that you've got, like you say, you're so grateful at the moment and you're so excited 111 00:10:38,325 --> 00:10:45,649 and giddy, which is just so lovely. Do you think that'll ever become normal? I hope not. I really 112 00:10:45,689 --> 00:10:52,273 hope that I keep this feeling with me for the rest of my life. And I've always, I've always 113 00:10:52,313 --> 00:10:57,456 been a big believer in that. Even when I was, you know, back at drama school, people would 114 00:10:57,476 --> 00:11:01,111 say to me, like my directors and stuff would always be like, you have so much energy and 115 00:11:01,131 --> 00:11:06,095 so much love and so much passion and so much adrenaline for everything that you do, never 116 00:11:06,235 --> 00:11:10,739 ever lose that. And I've always had that in the back of my mind just to constantly pinch 117 00:11:10,779 --> 00:11:16,023 myself and go, you are living your dream, like at every stage and just to never take that 118 00:11:16,043 --> 00:11:23,289 for granted. Why am I getting emotional? What's going on? I don't know, like it is, you know, 119 00:11:23,429 --> 00:11:29,594 I hope I have that feeling forever and I hope it never feels super normalized to me. And 120 00:11:29,634 --> 00:11:36,639 can you tell us a bit about the inspiration for your looks? And can you give us a rough 121 00:11:36,699 --> 00:11:41,502 idea of like, how many outfits have you got? How many weeks and what, what's the pressure 122 00:11:41,542 --> 00:11:47,246 of producing new looks and new outfits like? How'd you do that? Oh God. Yeah. I mean, I 123 00:11:47,406 --> 00:11:51,889 literally could not physically tell you how many looks, how many wigs, how many outfits 124 00:11:51,909 --> 00:11:57,073 I have. I have my like drag race room back at home where all of my stuff from the show is 125 00:11:57,153 --> 00:12:01,808 stored. And that takes up a lot of space by itself, let alone all of the stuff that I have 126 00:12:02,408 --> 00:12:10,414 outside of the show. And yeah, my process is like, I love getting given a prompt or something 127 00:12:10,454 --> 00:12:14,497 like that. Like, Drag Race was kind of like perfect for me because you know, you get the 128 00:12:14,537 --> 00:12:18,039 prompts for all of the runways and then I feel like I can just, you know, somebody gives me 129 00:12:18,079 --> 00:12:23,322 a buzzword and I can just be creative with that and I'll just start sketching and I'm not the 130 00:12:23,362 --> 00:12:28,858 most incredible like, sketcher in terms of fashion design, but I know what I want. in my brain. 131 00:12:29,178 --> 00:12:36,220 So I will try and do like a rough, crazy sketch and conceptualize it and then send it over 132 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:42,081 to a designer who actually knows how to sketch properly and actually make the outfit and kind 133 00:12:42,141 --> 00:12:46,482 of come together that way. But I love it. Yeah. It just comes from, you can, I can take inspiration 134 00:12:46,522 --> 00:12:51,884 from anything really, but I always want to do something that's true to me, that's authentic 135 00:12:51,904 --> 00:12:58,226 to me. And that comes from somewhere deep within my brain. I never want to do like, Ooh. let's 136 00:12:58,246 --> 00:13:03,130 do this pretty, pretty gown, which some people do. And that's our dragon. It's absolutely 137 00:13:03,150 --> 00:13:06,973 gorgeous. But I always want to do something that makes like at least a small percentage 138 00:13:06,993 --> 00:13:19,403 of people go, what's that? I love that. And what was it like working with Rue and the various 139 00:13:19,443 --> 00:13:25,248 judges? What was that? It must've been fun experience. Yeah. Oh my God. It was incredible. Like every 140 00:13:25,268 --> 00:13:32,263 guest judge was absolutely. amazing. Rue, Michelle, Alan, Graham, like they just make you feel 141 00:13:32,284 --> 00:13:37,426 like you're at home and they are just very caring and they want what's best for you and for your 142 00:13:37,626 --> 00:13:42,608 art and I really got that feeling. I can speak from my experience and I think that they're 143 00:13:42,628 --> 00:13:48,430 just incredible, incredible people and they're incredible at what they do and you know it 144 00:13:48,450 --> 00:13:52,612 just feels like home to me like whenever I was with them, whenever I was on that stage it 145 00:13:52,652 --> 00:14:00,403 felt like I was at home yeah and so I'm feel that way, you know what I mean? And they were 146 00:14:00,423 --> 00:14:04,446 a huge part of that. One of the great things about drug race is that as well as all the 147 00:14:04,486 --> 00:14:10,651 glam and the laughs and the entertainment, you do get to hear people's stories which can be 148 00:14:10,731 --> 00:14:17,275 very moving. Were you worried about telling your story or was that kind of a cathartic 149 00:14:17,295 --> 00:14:23,360 thing to be able to do? It was cathartic and it felt like I needed to say it in that moment. 150 00:14:24,501 --> 00:14:28,688 It felt like it was just. ready to burst out of me. Like, I don't know, like it was just 151 00:14:28,708 --> 00:14:34,233 such a, you know, it is, you reach kind of like a boiling point, I guess. And it felt like 152 00:14:34,293 --> 00:14:39,557 the right time and the right moment. And I've always been such an advocate to, for speaking 153 00:14:39,637 --> 00:14:43,080 out on things like that. And for, you know, if you're in a place where you feel like you 154 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:48,905 can, raising much as much awareness as possible, because it is something that feels so taboo 155 00:14:48,945 --> 00:14:52,888 and that people don't talk about it very much in the media. And I don't even, I'm not even 156 00:14:52,908 --> 00:14:58,327 sure if it has been spoken about. on Drag Race to that degree before. And I was, you know, 157 00:14:59,047 --> 00:15:04,528 I wasn't thinking about it in the moment because you're just kind of living in that moment. 158 00:15:04,548 --> 00:15:09,070 But then when I got back after filming, of course, it was something that I was like, Oh, I know 159 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:14,231 that's going to come out on that episode and I need to kind of brace myself for that. And 160 00:15:14,271 --> 00:15:21,273 I think it is just about protecting yourself. Um, and it's been completely worth it. Like 161 00:15:21,693 --> 00:15:26,959 I still am receiving countless and count. countless, countless messages about that episode every 162 00:15:26,999 --> 00:15:34,423 day, even now, every single day, every single meet and greet, every single opportunity for 163 00:15:34,483 --> 00:15:40,326 where I'm meeting fans, it will, you know, it'll be one person that says something that just 164 00:15:40,346 --> 00:15:44,968 makes it all worth it. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, it's definitely. And I was just gonna say, 165 00:15:44,988 --> 00:15:49,610 yeah, it's also, you know, just about protecting yourself and... You know, so I started, you 166 00:15:49,630 --> 00:15:53,632 know, before I start, before Drag Race came out, I went to therapy. I was like, I'm going 167 00:15:53,652 --> 00:15:57,695 to make sure I'm in a great head space and that I'm ready to handle all of this stuff, which 168 00:15:58,075 --> 00:16:01,397 I feel like I probably would have been anyway, but I was like, I want to really make sure 169 00:16:02,337 --> 00:16:05,939 that I can deal with everything that's about to come my way off the back of that episode 170 00:16:05,959 --> 00:16:10,402 and off the back of the experience as a whole, just to make sure that I'm as ready as possible. 171 00:16:10,522 --> 00:16:14,824 And that's something that I would condone for everyone. I feel like everyone should have 172 00:16:14,865 --> 00:16:22,700 therapy. And so they give, do they offer sort of any pastoral care as part of the show? Yes, 173 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:29,463 yes, of course. Everyone is incredible. There's an amazing queen team that are there for you. 174 00:16:29,623 --> 00:16:35,966 And there is an amazing therapist who works with the show. He is on call whenever, wherever. 175 00:16:36,686 --> 00:16:41,108 I still have his number now, even though, you know, we filmed so long ago and I can reach 176 00:16:41,168 --> 00:16:46,382 out whenever I need anything. So yeah, we're looked after. I was going to say you get a 177 00:16:46,402 --> 00:16:51,625 bit more of that with a hello, don't you? With a more of a deep dive into kind of the Queen's 178 00:16:51,685 --> 00:16:55,347 journey. And I suppose you, I don't know, you come away from that feeling like, you know, 179 00:16:55,427 --> 00:17:02,932 so much more. It's an extension, if you like, of everything, which I think satisfies people 180 00:17:02,952 --> 00:17:08,635 like me who need more in their life. And it is, you know, it's something that not a lot 181 00:17:08,675 --> 00:17:13,198 of people get to see, like some queens at some point in their career do. you know, a reaction 182 00:17:13,218 --> 00:17:17,782 to their audition video or something like that. But I think what's so lovely about Hello, Hello 183 00:17:18,062 --> 00:17:22,625 is that firstly, they have no idea that we're about to do that. Like every single one of 184 00:17:22,646 --> 00:17:27,649 them had not a clue that we're about to watch their audition tape, which I think is so lovely 185 00:17:28,690 --> 00:17:34,755 to catch them off guard like that. But also it is, you know, it's a dive into who they 186 00:17:34,895 --> 00:17:39,607 are as an artist and who they were before they got on the show. And also it's a nice little 187 00:17:39,627 --> 00:17:43,630 peek behind the curtain for the fans because I feel like they don't often get to see stuff 188 00:17:43,650 --> 00:17:48,775 like that. So I think it's, it's an interesting thing. I'm very, I'm very happy with it. Um, 189 00:17:49,095 --> 00:17:56,402 what do you remember about your first ever drag performance, drag appearance? Oh my gosh. Wow. 190 00:17:56,542 --> 00:18:02,948 So my first ever drag performance, um, was in, it was just before lockdown and it was in a 191 00:18:03,028 --> 00:18:08,270 basement in East London. And it was to an artist called Banks, to a song called Poltergeist, 192 00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:13,132 which is like one of my favorite artists at the time, and still is. I was wearing like 193 00:18:13,252 --> 00:18:21,594 a full vinyl look, no lashes, a little like shake and go wig that I like chopped up. And 194 00:18:21,834 --> 00:18:28,856 I had the time of my life. I was, you know, my drag was very, very different then obviously. 195 00:18:29,817 --> 00:18:36,879 I feel like my drag kind of exploded very quickly. from that point onwards. But you know, I have 196 00:18:36,919 --> 00:18:41,401 so much love for baby Kyren because I feel like, you know, she really paved the way. She knew 197 00:18:41,441 --> 00:18:45,763 what she wanted. She knew what she was going for. She just didn't, she couldn't do it yet. 198 00:18:49,244 --> 00:18:53,526 You grew, you just grew. It's brilliant. I think that's how, I mean, it's the same for everybody. 199 00:18:53,586 --> 00:18:57,127 Isn't it? When you look back at something, you think, oh no, it's a bit cringe batch. It's 200 00:18:57,147 --> 00:19:03,306 part of who you are and who you are today. Yeah, exactly. Like, and. You know, there's that 201 00:19:03,326 --> 00:19:06,528 saying that if you don't look back to what you were doing half a year ago and cringe, that 202 00:19:06,548 --> 00:19:11,271 you're not doing something, you're doing something wrong, you know what I mean? You've got to 203 00:19:11,291 --> 00:19:16,675 look back and cringe with love. Like even now, you grow so much. Like I'm on tour right now 204 00:19:16,735 --> 00:19:21,538 and I'm painting my face every single day, day in, day out. So like I'm experimenting, I'm 205 00:19:21,578 --> 00:19:25,500 doing some new stuff because I'm like, I don't want to do the same thing every day. So I'm 206 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,779 just going crazy on my makeup some days. and just doing something fun. I'm glad you mentioned 207 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:36,022 the makeup because I've got a question for you. What's your skincare regime? Because when you 208 00:19:36,062 --> 00:19:42,805 wear that much, how? What do you use? Tell me. So I use, so it's Releaser actually who got 209 00:19:42,825 --> 00:19:47,968 me into good skincare. Um, cause we were in the back of the van on tour and she saw what 210 00:19:48,008 --> 00:19:52,250 I was doing, which was just one base moisturizer. And she was like, girl, you just, you just 211 00:19:52,290 --> 00:19:57,173 won 25,000 pounds. Can you please just get some actual skincare? And I went, you know what? 212 00:19:57,654 --> 00:20:03,938 You're right. Um, so now I use the ordinary, I use like a skincare skin support set, and 213 00:20:03,978 --> 00:20:09,761 then I use a vitamin C in the morning and a retinol in the evening and then Tatcha Dewy 214 00:20:09,781 --> 00:20:15,571 skin cream. and a nice little peptide thing for the eyes and then a lip mask. I just, anything 215 00:20:15,591 --> 00:20:23,133 that makes me look moist and shiny. I love, I love looking, looking sweaty. Dewey, Dewey. 216 00:20:23,153 --> 00:20:31,055 Dewey, that's the one. That's a nice one. And did you, did you just teach yourself makeup 217 00:20:31,115 --> 00:20:36,256 application or, or do you watch things like glow up and stuff like that? So here's some 218 00:20:36,397 --> 00:20:45,588 inside tea. I actually was very. almost on Glow Up before I was on Drag Race. If you watch 219 00:20:45,628 --> 00:20:50,610 season two and three in the intro, title cards of Glow Up, I'm in both of those intros. I 220 00:20:50,670 --> 00:20:54,812 love Glow Up. Because I was shortlisted for season two and for season three before I started 221 00:20:54,852 --> 00:20:58,273 drag. So I'd always kind of like, I've been messing around with makeup and playing around 222 00:20:58,293 --> 00:21:02,915 with makeup since I was about 13. Like I came out as gay and even before then, I'd be like 223 00:21:02,935 --> 00:21:09,137 going to high school with like black coal, like eyeliner on, like, you know, just being... 224 00:21:09,682 --> 00:21:16,087 a little weirdo going into Catholic high school with a full face of makeup. Um, and I'd always 225 00:21:16,127 --> 00:21:21,831 kind of like, I find joy in that. So I didn't really, you know, sit down and learn it properly, 226 00:21:21,891 --> 00:21:27,336 but I always found it a nice, like, it was a nice, nice little outlet, I guess. And I liked, 227 00:21:27,556 --> 00:21:30,558 I liked it. And then it was, it was literally one day when I was at drama school and one 228 00:21:30,578 --> 00:21:35,683 of my housemates walked in and was like, you know, you like play around with makeup all 229 00:21:35,703 --> 00:21:39,718 the time and you love makeup and you're a performer and an actor, like, why don't you just. put 230 00:21:39,738 --> 00:21:44,159 them together and see what happens in Tri-Drag and I was like, that's not a bad idea. And 231 00:21:44,259 --> 00:21:50,881 now here we are. So thank you, Rosie. We have to ask the big question though, don't we? Yeah, 232 00:21:50,901 --> 00:21:58,763 we have to. What are you binge watching at the moment? Well, obviously Drag Race Season 17 233 00:21:59,063 --> 00:22:06,805 is killer. But I just finished binge watching a show called Cassandra on Netflix, which was 234 00:22:07,105 --> 00:22:15,959 absolutely amazing. It's a German show, I believe, about like an AI computer lady who is like 235 00:22:16,039 --> 00:22:20,042 in control of this like house and this new family move into it. It was so good. Oh my god, it 236 00:22:20,062 --> 00:22:23,885 was so good. It's just six episodes. I just finished it literally this morning. It's amazing. 237 00:22:23,965 --> 00:22:30,130 It's amazing. I recommend. Brilliant. And what, who were your sort of TV heroes or the shows 238 00:22:30,170 --> 00:22:38,397 that you couldn't miss when you were growing up? Oh, wow. Well, I'm gay. So I love Tana 239 00:22:38,417 --> 00:22:45,203 Montana. And also when I was like really young, I used to love Goosebumps. I was obsessed with 240 00:22:45,263 --> 00:22:50,165 Goosebumps. I remember I was like so obsessed to the point where they used to air at like 241 00:22:50,225 --> 00:22:55,466 6 PM or something after school and then they stopped airing at 6 PM and I looked through 242 00:22:55,506 --> 00:23:00,848 the like TV guide and I saw that they were airing at like 2 AM. So I'd literally set an alarm 243 00:23:01,128 --> 00:23:05,849 in the middle of the night and wake my mum up. We'd go down and watch Goosebumps on a school 244 00:23:05,889 --> 00:23:09,796 night at 2 AM. And I'd literally be falling asleep watching it. And my mum would be like, 245 00:23:09,996 --> 00:23:15,540 okay, we need to go to bed. I'm like, no, I'm watching Goosebumps. Yeah, that definitely 246 00:23:15,580 --> 00:23:27,310 probably shaped me. I mean. I love your mum did that. That was brilliant. I love you. Who 247 00:23:27,330 --> 00:23:36,297 would play you in the film of your life? Ideal casting? Me. No, you could not. You could direct 248 00:23:36,337 --> 00:23:45,707 as well. No, I don't know who would. That's a really good question. Gwen Stefani. Oh, good 249 00:23:45,727 --> 00:23:51,932 call. Because for some reason, I keep getting told I look like Gwen Stefani. I've never had 250 00:23:51,952 --> 00:23:57,295 it in my entire life. And then I went on Drag Race and every week and even now with Hello, 251 00:23:57,575 --> 00:24:01,918 Hello coming out every week in the comments, Kyrin looks like Gwen Stefani. And I'm like, 252 00:24:01,938 --> 00:24:06,061 I've never seen it in my life. But you know, just to appease the fans, I'd have Gwen play 253 00:24:06,101 --> 00:24:16,424 me. I reckon she'd do it. And two questions in one. So I was watching an episode of Hello, 254 00:24:17,105 --> 00:24:23,969 and a giant W sort of fell off the backdrop. I was wondering, have you had any serious mishaps 255 00:24:24,009 --> 00:24:32,175 while performing live? Oh, I fell down the stairs once and I love a number, which was hard to 256 00:24:32,235 --> 00:24:41,299 recover from. I don't know. Yesterday, my headset, my microphone broke. So they had to like come 257 00:24:41,339 --> 00:24:46,360 throw me a handheld microphone. But there's a bit in the show where I'm kind of like lifted 258 00:24:46,420 --> 00:24:52,402 up by my arms into the air. And I'm still like doing this, like singing the song. So I had 259 00:24:52,422 --> 00:24:57,063 to, obviously, usually I just have the headset but I had to bring this arm in to carry on 260 00:24:57,623 --> 00:25:01,845 singing it. So the dancer was like trying to hold me up like this. And it was like a very 261 00:25:01,925 --> 00:25:07,791 uncomfortable compromising position but we made it work. We made it work. And also I love when 262 00:25:07,831 --> 00:25:13,673 things go wrong. I love when things go wrong. They are, it's the biggest gift to a performer 263 00:25:13,893 --> 00:25:18,675 when something goes wrong and you handle it. The audience loves it. It's so lovely. It's 264 00:25:18,715 --> 00:25:25,258 so endearing. I love it. I'd have a show of just mistakes if I could. So true. I think 265 00:25:25,318 --> 00:25:31,561 they've made a lot of money out of doing that, haven't they? Yeah, literally. Literally. And 266 00:25:31,581 --> 00:25:38,688 are you on stage tonight? No, so today's a day off. So yeah, we usually have about eight or 267 00:25:38,728 --> 00:25:43,450 nine shows and then a day off and then another eight or nine. But yeah, this tour finishes 268 00:25:43,650 --> 00:25:49,032 in two weeks and then I have a few days off and then I'm on tour again the following week. 269 00:25:49,692 --> 00:25:54,334 So it's jam packed. When you're not touring, what do you like to do? What's your favorite 270 00:25:54,374 --> 00:26:01,057 night out? Ooh, so I love to go to the cinema, whether that's by myself, whether that's with 271 00:26:01,097 --> 00:26:04,859 my partner, whether that's with my friends. It's just one of my favourite like pastimes 272 00:26:04,879 --> 00:26:09,103 because I feel like it's so nice to get like transported to somewhere else. Do you know 273 00:26:09,123 --> 00:26:12,847 what I mean? Like it's very different from watching anything at home. So I have a full like cinema 274 00:26:12,867 --> 00:26:18,532 membership. I'll just take myself off on a day off, watch a film, just not look at my phone. 275 00:26:19,193 --> 00:26:24,458 So there's that and there's also spending time with my little nephew is like the light of 276 00:26:24,498 --> 00:26:30,662 my life. So and I feel like looking after a child just... takes all of your focus and energy 277 00:26:30,702 --> 00:26:37,425 and it just feels like such a break from the norm of my life. So yeah, spending time with 278 00:26:37,445 --> 00:26:42,568 my little nephew Franco and going to the cinema and having a nice bath and also going out and 279 00:26:42,728 --> 00:26:50,191 love you. All of you bath. And that as well. Yeah. Well I think that's a good note to end 280 00:26:50,271 --> 00:26:51,732 on and thank you so much, 281 00:26:56,162 --> 00:27:01,366 Best of luck with the tour, break a leg as they say. Yeah, we love watching you, well done. 282 00:27:01,526 --> 00:27:05,630 Done amazingly well, I should be very proud. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you 283 00:27:05,650 --> 00:27:09,753 for having me, this has been an absolute pleasure. You're amazing, thank you. Have a lovely night 284 00:27:09,813 --> 00:27:13,737 off, you deserve it. Take care. Thank you, I love you. Thanks, Kyra, lovely to meet you. 285 00:27:13,757 --> 00:27:14,397 See you guys.