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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Standing tall on your truth takes more courage than following the crowd. Join us as we explore how self-trust, intuitive rebellion, and ditching external validation open the door to unapologetic living. In this episode, you'll hear how choosing to stay flat became a radical act of soul-led self-definition, why dopamine dressing is more than just fashion, and how oracle cards can serve as mirrors that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Guide you back to your you-ness.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Welcome to the UWorld Order Showcase Podcast, where we feature life, health, transformational coaches and spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, The Coach's Alchemist, on a mission to help coaches and entrepreneurs monetize their mission, amplify their voice, and get visible.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's the first step in building a business where your clients seek you out. Today, we are chatting with PETA Ann Wood. PETA Ann is an indie reader-approved international best-selling author and creator of Elegant Rebel.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: A soulful coach, oracle card designer, and breast cancer thriver who chose to stay flat and stand tall. She empowers neurodivergent women to reclaim their voice and flourish unapologetically. Through storytelling, intuitive tools, and a healthy dose of sass, PETA Ann helps women ditch societal norms and trust their inner wisdom and radiate authenticity. Welcome to the show, Peeta Ann. It's great to have you.

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Peta-Ann: Thank you, Jill. It's beautiful to be here. Thank you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So let's ask you, what's the most significant thing, in your opinion, we can do as individuals to make an impact on how the world is going?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Said yesterday.

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Peta-Ann: For me.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: one answer.

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Peta-Ann: As my brain goes, so many things. Great question, Jill, thank you. For me, it's acceptance. It's as simple as acceptance. You know, none of us are the… none of us are the same.

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Peta-Ann: And the sooner we all allow each other to be who we are.

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Peta-Ann: Without some sort of judgmental,

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Peta-Ann: you know, covering up, or… however we want to couch it. Acceptance is the key for me, in everything. Whether that's because you're neurodivergent, whether that's because you've stayed flat, whether that's because…

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Peta-Ann: There's so many becausees, you know? You know, your choices are your choices, and no one else has the right to, you know, judge your choices. I do couch that with intentional harm, unless you're intentionally harming someone, then…

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Peta-Ann: then that's… that's not okay. But acceptance is the key for me, so yeah.

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Peta-Ann: personal acceptance, too. It's like…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can just appreciate who you are and how you're shaped at every stage of your life.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes. Rather than trying to, like, I will be satisfied when, because…

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Peta-Ann: Oh, yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: ever come.

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Peta-Ann: No, and that sort of leads into… I'm trained as a happiness coach, which is a bizarre concept, but, you know, and it's not about, you know, having clients get happy, because that's, you know, that's a redundant concept. It's actually about the acceptance. It's actually about

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Peta-Ann: teaching and showing folks that exactly what you just said, it's not when you get the car, you won't be happy. It's… it's, you know, accepting who you are, where you are, and what you're doing with as much love, compassion, and kindness and grace as you possibly can. Because

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Peta-Ann: that's… that's happiness. It's… happiness is joy, peace, and contentment. It's not some external, you know, give me chocolate now. So, yeah, it's, exactly. It's self-acceptance, and it's also…

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Peta-Ann: Acceptance of the whole.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And when you accept yourself, it makes it…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it goes beyond just accepting, it's, like, stop judging yourself, because we all like to do that, it's like…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If I only… We're this or that. And, you know, the flood of… of degradation to our

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And this is not, like, some external thing that happens. It's… it commonly happens

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That we're doing it to us.

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Peta-Ann: Yes, yes, and you know, and that's… I'm… I was really good at it. Aren't we all? Until, until I had to, you know, I was… I was confronted with a situation where I…

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Peta-Ann: wasn't going to fit in to societal's, what society deems as a woman. And, you know, to be honest, my entire life, I didn't fit in. I was always too big, I was always too tall, I was always too loud, I was always too sensitive, I was always too something.

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Peta-Ann: So the concept of me fitting into, you know, normal, what is classified as normal, which I don't quite understand, society… it wasn't me, I didn't do it. So I think that's where my version of acceptance comes from, and my questioning why other people don't accept

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Peta-Ann: Different in inverted commas.

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Peta-Ann: Because that's what I lived my entire life. And then getting, diagnosed with breast cancer…

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Peta-Ann: I wasn't given an option. My treatment plan was a bilateral mastectomy. There was no…

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Peta-Ann: No, oh, look, you might get away with. It was, no, this is what we're doing. If you want to stay around.

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Peta-Ann: You know?

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Peta-Ann: And I had incredibly large breasts, so…

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Peta-Ann: again, I spent a lot of time trying to

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Peta-Ann: Make myself fit into a society that just…

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Peta-Ann: They worship breasts, and they forget that there's a person attached to them.

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Peta-Ann: So, you know, I would spend my days trying to avoid people staring at my, you know, staring at my chest, and still allowing myself to be me, you know? I wasn't… I'm not someone who can wear high-neck anything, because I don't like stuff around my neck.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And that's not my style, so…

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Peta-Ann: You know, for me, it's… it's… it… yeah, it was about…

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Peta-Ann: being placed in a situation where acceptance of who I was, and now I've been, hey, you've got to change again, and…

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Peta-Ann: being, you know, being put in that judgmental space of, well, you can't be a woman now because you don't have breasts. And, you know, that…

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Peta-Ann: It was a bit, you know, it was a bit confronting to start with, but…

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Peta-Ann: you know, you sit back and you remember all the things that you've done over your life that led you to make decisions before, and that's when I started to remember, hey, you've got this really strong power.

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Peta-Ann: It's called intuition. You know, you need to follow that. And for me, self-acceptance is based on following your intuition.

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Peta-Ann: And allowing yourself to know what you know. I actually call intuition soul nudges, that's what I call it. So yeah, it's allowing yourself to know what you know, and using that to accept yourself where you are at that point in time.

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Peta-Ann: So, yeah, that's… you know, even when the big things are thrown at you.

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Peta-Ann: like, hey, you've got breast cancer, hey, your treatment plan is a bilateral mastectomy, no, there's no choice there. We might do reconstruction,

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Peta-Ann: But, you know, scientifically, we can't do it straight away, which, you know, was… was my soul going, yeah, no, not doing that. So there was a whole stack of, for me and my treatment plan.

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Peta-Ann: There was a whole stack of little points along the way, which were my soul nudges.

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Peta-Ann: And one of them was being told I was having immediate reconstruction to find out 3 days later that that wasn't scientifically possible because of my size. So, yeah, it's… that was the first, hey, no, you need to stay flat.

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Peta-Ann: So yeah, you know, your intuition plays a huge role in self-acceptance as well, so yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And there's just… there's so many things about…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the change with all of these things. We… we may think, oh, just staying flat is, like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that's a no-brainer, or that's so easy. I mean, your other options are to…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Wear a prosthetic, so fake boobs.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, we call them.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: In a different way.

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Peta-Ann: They call them what?

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Peta-Ann: Boobs.

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Peta-Ann: Foobs, yeah, you can…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If you didn't like bras, let's add something even worse!

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Pretend stuff!

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I know. Attached to the front of your body. And that still doesn't help with…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: all of the muscles over all of your life for… have been trained for holding all of this weight. You're talking about 18 kilograms, that's like 32 pounds, maybe 32 pounds.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, my… I was a size… I was a size 18, they were 6 kilos. They weren't that huge. 18 kilos would have been really big.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay. I don't do… I don't do math very well.

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Peta-Ann: I forgot about that, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, no, yeah, 6 kilos, what's that, 2.2, that's 12, 15 pound, maybe?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, 15 pounds.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's a lot!

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, that's huge. Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But your body… your body… had grown.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to that point, to accommodate that. And when you walk, and move, and your balance shifts, I can only imagine how many times you ran into things or fell over when you… you're just, like, walking along, and then you're on the ground, because you're.

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Peta-Ann: I still…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Had to get used to it.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, you know, that's… you know that you're the first person who's actually raised that, because it's so true. I didn't have any shoulder issues, I'm, you know, grateful, because I am almost 6 foot, so, you know, I've got the shoulders to match, you know, and my body shape is, think.

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Peta-Ann: you know, Marilyn Monroe shape, but, you know, a little…

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Peta-Ann: broader, to say it that way.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I heard better.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, well, I think so. I, so I didn't have shoulder issues before I had my mastectomy, and ever since my mastectomy, I've had shoulder… I have shoulder problems, I have my ribs move in and out, which, you know, 6 kilos used to keep them in place, now they don't.

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Peta-Ann: So… and your gait changes, there's been whole studies by, some, American physios called the Gait Guys.

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Peta-Ann: about the gait changes, you'd get blisters in different places because your whole movement changes. I still, to this day, 10 years down the track, have to… I call them my… put my wings out. I'm walking… when I'm out walking, I will start to fall over.

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Peta-Ann: Because my body still hasn't quite worked out that I haven't got 6 kilos at the front of me anymore. Yeah, I refer to it as, like, a ballast on a ship, you know? Trying to balance. And it's so true, I'm still in physio, because my ribs still move, the scar tissue pulls on you.

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Peta-Ann: It pulls on your, rib lining and your fascial muscle group, and it pulls your ribs out of place, and then, you know, and I work with an exercise physiologist so that I can keep my scapula in place, and keeping my shoulders back, and you spend so much cognitive energy

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Peta-Ann: Trying to make sure that you're standing up straight, because your scar tissue pulls you forward.

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Peta-Ann: So your shoulders will automatically go forward, because your scar tissue's pulling you forward. And you, for me, I've actually…

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Peta-Ann: somehow, my waist area is shortened, and it's to do with, you know, the closure and all that sort of stuff. I didn't get shorter, it's just I'm tighter, so therefore things are… things don't fit the same way as they used to. Which, you know…

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Peta-Ann: Should have been expected, but you don't… they're not… it's not stuff you think about until you're…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: tell you about it. I mean, you're in the doctor's office, and he's not sitting you down going, okay, we're gonna do this, and these are the long-term repercussions of what's going to happen to you. Oh, by the way, and we know, because, you know, we've done a whole bunch of these, and most people experience these

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: effects. So you could, like, get mentally prepared for it instead of being surprised. Oh, by the way, my ribs are moving out, and it's extremely painful!

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Peta-Ann: Oh, it is, and put back in is even worse.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, yeah!

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because…

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Peta-Ann: there was nothing. I didn't get told any of this. You get told some stuff, but you don't get told everything, because… and…

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Peta-Ann: You know, their reasoning is valid, it's because not everyone… it doesn't happen to everyone, so they don't want to scare you, but it's like.

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Peta-Ann: But how am I prepared? And maybe that's because I am neurodivergent, and my, you know, the autistic side of my brain wants the plan, whereas the ADHD side of my brain goes, oh, no, let's just roll. So, yeah, it…

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Peta-Ann: It's exactly why I wrote my book. To share that sort of information, and to share how you can move through it. And it doesn't matter whether it's breast cancer, or whatever, you know, trauma is thrown at you.

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Peta-Ann: it, you know, you can find ways through it. The other one for me was, what I called Buddha Belly. It gets called poo belly as well.

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Peta-Ann: And it appeared the day after I had my mastectomy. My younger brother walked into the… into my room, and he said, what's… you know, pointing at my belly, going, what's that? Because, what you don't… well, I didn't know. Your breasts do your lymphatic drainage. So once they're gone, where does it go?

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Peta-Ann: Here's a clue, it goes straight to your belly. So, you know, I was…

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Peta-Ann: probably 2 months after I'd had my mastectomy, sitting out watching a full moon rise, blah blah blah, and with some older folks, and they said, oh, you can't eat that because you're… you're pregnant. And I'm just gone. Yeah, no, I'm not pregnant. No, no.

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Peta-Ann: breast cancer survivor, but not pregnant. And it just… this… you know, and I became a public service announcement on that particular occasion, because a friend of theirs had just had a mastectomy, and they thought that she had just gained weight and all this, and it's like, no, you should… well, why are you judging her anyway?

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Peta-Ann: how about you, you know, support her? But yeah, sharing that with… and that's something that we weren't told about beforehand either.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Most people don't know what your lymphatic system is, or how.

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Peta-Ann: What's exactly…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's like, you know, most of them are under your armpits.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They remove them with your breasts, because that's where the cancer goes, and that's how it can spread through your system. The other ones are in your groin area.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So…

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Peta-Ann: No.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If you're not…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: able to get the waist out through the top part, where we sweat and stuff, which is why, you know, DO…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Antiprespirant is, like, the worst thing ever invented, and is probably why there's so much breast cancer.

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Peta-Ann: Yup, yep.

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Peta-Ann: H? Yes?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it has to go out the lower…

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Peta-Ann: The mover.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: area, and so, yeah, it's gonna back up in your belly.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's physics!

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It is!

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Peta-Ann: It literally is, but, you know, these are the things that were not… were not shared, because it doesn't happen to everyone, and I… it… yeah, hmm. I don't know, I don't think…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It does.

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Peta-Ann: So, a fair reasoning.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, on top of all of that, and people can read more about this in your book, They Don't Grow Back, that's the name of it.

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Peta-Ann: Yes, what happens when they don't grow back, yeah. Yep.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, it's a great read, even if… Even if…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you won't… you don't have breast cancer, or you're not struggling with all of this stuff. It's a really good look

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: at… What happens when

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Faced with that situation, and breast cancer is so prevalent in the world today that it really is important that we understand

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: For the people that are going through it, even if it's not you, because you will meet people

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You know, I know several people who have breast cancer.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Some are still alive, and some…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: some past, because of it. I mean, it's, like, it's a thing. And the more informed you can be about it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the better.

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Peta-Ann: So, I encourage people to read that book, but you also help people who have experienced it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Choose to be flat, choose to just accept their body as their body is, in terms of

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: How to dress?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Even.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah. Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And… Let's explain that a little bit, too, because I think that's so fascinating.

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Peta-Ann: Oh, look, I, so I was introduced to the world of color back when I was 16, and having my… I had my colours done, so that's, you know, 40 years ago. Oh, God, help me. So I've always known what colours reflected best on my… to… reflected best on me, and when you wear the best… best colors for you.

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Peta-Ann: people see your shiny face, and see how, you know, see your beauty. Irrespective of whether you think that, whether you're judging yourself, which we don't do, that's what you see. If you're not wearing the correct color, you see the outfit.

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Peta-Ann: So if people say, oh, that's a fabulous shirt, it's not the right color for you.

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Peta-Ann: You may look amazing, and you may feel amazing, and that's what I'm more about these days. So I started off as, please wear the right color, which is…

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Peta-Ann: not really helpful. And I moved after breast cancer… after my breast cancer diagnosis, I moved into what's referred to as dopamine dressing.

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Peta-Ann: than anywhere else, but, for me, before I had breast cancer, I… if I say, pinup girl style, 50s pinup girl, that was… that was the sort of styled clothing I wore, because that's what… and 60s mod clothing, because that's… that's me, that's my style. I've never followed fashion.

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Peta-Ann: I've never followed fashion trends, because I could never get pants that were long enough, because I'm too tall, I could never get them to fit my waist and my hips at the same time, because I was an hourglass figure. So I, you know, was raised sewing my own clothes, because

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Peta-Ann: That's what I did.

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Peta-Ann: So fashion, don't follow fashion trends, still don't follow fashion trends, it's all about your style.

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Peta-Ann: So, when I had my mastectomy.

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Peta-Ann: I was told that I could wear scarves to hide the fact I didn't have breasts, I could wear flounces and frills, and I'm looking at this person going, I have never worn flounces and frills in my entire life.

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Peta-Ann: I wear scarves in winter because I'm cold, not to hide anything, or, you know, in the 80s, I used to wear them around my waist, because that was something I did because I wanted to.

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Peta-Ann: So yeah, so it led me down a path of… and it's, again, one of the main reasons I wrote my book, my first book, was because there's just nothing out there

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Peta-Ann: For people who don't make their own clothes, like me, to… to, you know, to… dress…

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Peta-Ann: to make them feel good, and that's the whole thing about dopamine dressing. It's about, you know.

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Peta-Ann: living your truth, not someone else's fashion. So, and it's about, you know, the textures that make you feel good, the colors that make you feel good, the style that makes you feel good. It's about increasing your dopamine, that's the whole reason it's called dopamine dressing.

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Peta-Ann: And it's not about dressing for other people, it's about dressing for you. So, yeah, I mean, I embraced the Bardot style top because it's very similar to the style that I used to wear.

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Peta-Ann: style, and here's a clue, I don't have to wear bras anymore, so I don't have to worry about bra straps showing and all that sort of stuff, I know. It's a bit nasty of me to say things like that, but, you know, it's a positive.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, it's only because we're jealous.

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Peta-Ann: I know, I try not to say it, because I am very aware that, you know, it's a thing that, you know, some people can't ever get to do, because… and I was one of them, actually, because I could never not wear a bra, so, you know, I'm just lapping it up now. So yeah, so I…

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Peta-Ann: Thank you. So I help other, other, you know, I help my clients determine what colours work best for them.

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Peta-Ann: But also what colours they love.

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Peta-Ann: Like, you know, hot pink is one of the colors that works best for me. I absolutely despise pink. I just, you know, I will wear it, you know, particularly in October, but, you know, it's not a color you'll see me in on a daily basis.

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Peta-Ann: So, and the other thing with the dopamine dressing and color, in particular, melding the two, is learning and sharing with clients that

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Peta-Ann: a process of working out what color you need on that day. And it's a really simple process. You wake up and you ask your body, what color do I need? And you listen. It's really… it's really that simple. And it's about trusting your intuition and trusting your soul nudges, which is harder to get to, but the process itself is simple.

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Peta-Ann: And you choose that color for the day. Now, if my… if I wake up and it says orange, it's like, yeah, that's not going to be an external color for me. So I've got, you know, underwear, I've got, you know, jewelry that's orange. So it's not about… it's not about having to wear the…

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Peta-Ann: color externally, it's about keeping that color on you somehow. It could be a crystal, if you still wear a bra, it could be a crystal in your bra. That's the only thing I do miss, is…

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Peta-Ann: Is… it's about trend… it's not about the trends, it's about your truth.

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Peta-Ann: That's the best way I can describe how I… how I encourage clients to be themselves through their clothing.

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Peta-Ann: And it doesn't mean you have to go completely eccentric, it doesn't mean… it just means be you. And that could be… and when I say that, that's not a linear thing, that's a multidimensional thing.

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Peta-Ann: I mean, tomorrow I could be… you know, today I'm wearing teal.

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Peta-Ann: And it's very, you know, it's lacy, but tomorrow I might be, nope, I need to be shirt and pant. End of story, because, you know, I don't want to be seen today. That's what… that's… you know, that's sort of… that's how it fits into your truth, not the trends.

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Peta-Ann: And it's also about, it's a… for those of us who are neurodivergent, it's a sensory anchor.

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Peta-Ann: for our identity as well. So, it just, yeah, it's about…

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Peta-Ann: feeling as good as you possibly can, and using… you know, for me, it's… it's a… it's a tool to say, I choose me today.

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Peta-Ann: So, it's… it's an external tool of, I choose me. So, yeah, that's…

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Peta-Ann: That's, that's why I share that with my clients. It's,

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Peta-Ann: I think that's the other reason I love doing it, is it's just fun.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's giving people permission to… Adorn themselves in a way that they're comfortable in.

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Peta-Ann: I live all winter in overalls.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, fantastic! Maybe 7 or 8 pairs of them. I do not wear pants. I've just made a conscious decision. I don't like pants around my waist, I've had a lot of surgeries, and it's just like…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But overalls are great, because, you know, they're… they're not really cinching in that area. And I have a few cute tops that I wear with them, and I have, like, I have dressy outfits with my overalls.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love it. I feel really good when I wear them. It's like… and I don't have to think about

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: what weird outfit am I gonna have to come up with today? Because I… I never did do my colors, or whatever my style is supposed to be, and, you know, I watch the videos, and I, you know, I just can't figure it out, and…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know, I've gotten to the point in my life where, you know, I just have a weird body shape, and overalls work for me.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, but that's… and it's… and I would… I would question the use of the word weird, but that's just me. But.

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Peta-Ann: So, but the point is that you feel great wearing what you wear.

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Peta-Ann: And it's not about what other people think, it's not about what other people want you to do, it's not about… it's about you taking the time to choose yourself and put you first.

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Peta-Ann: So, yeah, I think that's amazing. I would love to wear overalls. That would be so cool! I'm a dressing person.

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Peta-Ann: So, yeah, I… and I'm the same with you. Wearing pants is not my thing. It used to be, but ever since having a bilateral.

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Peta-Ann: The balance is off. Maybe it's because I'm a Libran, I don't know, but the balance is off when… isn't… yeah, so I don't… yeah, and it's not my thing either. Unless it's leggings and, you know, that's… that's fine, but…

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Peta-Ann: choosing you, and feeling that joy, and activating that clarity, and following your soul nudges to choose what you're going to do, you know, going to wear that day. Which is what I hear when you say about

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, your overalls, you're just following your intuition. This is what works best for me, and this is how I feel good. So, yeah, it's a great thing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I look at other people out there, you know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Alex Formosi is a great example.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He's a… he's a person who… people have told him, you should wear suits.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Sometimes he wears sweatpants.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Usually, he wears shorts and white socks and sandals, And a tank top.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And he's… Insanely brilliant.

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Peta-Ann: And, yeah, incredibly successful. So, what has clothing got to do with

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Peta-Ann: about yourself. Because once you feel good, I mean, this is, you know, Look Good, Feel Better is a program, is a cancer charity that's run here. And it's exactly what it is. When you feel good, you do better.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And you're nicer to people!

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Peta-Ann: Absolutely! Your kindness, your grace and compassion flows out of you.

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Peta-Ann: When you're feeling at your best. If you're sitting there worrying about this, you know, the waistband of the pants cinching your waist and causing you pain, you're not going to be able to be happy, joyous, peaceful, contented at all, because you're so focused on what this piece of clothing is doing to you. That's not dopamine-inducing on any level, so…

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Peta-Ann: It's about what makes you feel.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah. Yes. And we cannot be having that.

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Peta-Ann: limitation. We can't have information.

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Peta-Ann: And particularly for those of us in the cancer world, inflammation is really bad. And as well as other people, but I'm just speaking from experience, my own experience.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, jolted away, yeah.

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Peta-Ann: Yes.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's really… it does come down to stress. Stress is what causes cortisol to be released, and We… we…

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Peta-Ann: We do, we do, we do.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: worry about what people think about us, or what they're thinking about us. You know, let me give you a clue. Nobody is thinking about you.

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Peta-Ann: No, I actually had someone share with me once that, when I said… again, the neurodivergent side of my brain, it's like perception, people… people are perceiving me, and this, that, I won't do this because people are… and they just literally turned around and said, you're not that important.

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Peta-Ann: And it was a smack around, like, a virtual smack, but it's like, oh gosh, they're right. I really am not that important that everyone is worrying about me. So, and which is… that's not a negative, that's actually a positive in my world. It's like, oh wow, I don't have to worry about…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They're thinking, they're wondering what other people are thinking about them.

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Peta-Ann: Thank you.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, you're right, you're right. And it's… all we… all we can control is what, you know, how we feel. And, you know, for me…

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, exactly, exactly. And for me, you know, if I feel good, then it can radiate out, and other people… yeah, and that's when I get… you can also physically see me standing taller.

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Peta-Ann: If that's possible. But, do you know what I mean? You, you, for me,

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Peta-Ann: I literally had an incident, a situation last week where someone stopped me while I was walking, and she'd never met this woman before. And she's gone, I've seen you a few times, and your posture is amazing, and you stand so tall, are you a flatty? And I'm like.

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Peta-Ann: oh my gosh, yes I am. But it's just, it's just…

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Peta-Ann: that's… and, you know, I was dressed in something that I… yeah, I was wearing purple, which is my favorite color, and so I was, you know, doing all the things that I teach other people to do.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And someone noticed.

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Peta-Ann: And they notice the, what I say, the shininess, not anything else. So yeah, it's good when you can, you know, share your light with other people, yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And when you're feeling good, it happens. So…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: How do people find you? And we didn't even talk about your Oracle deck.

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Peta-Ann: So, maybe we should talk about that for a second.

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Peta-Ann: My Oracle cards actually stemmed out of my book, What Happens When They Don't Grow Back? And it's kind of like taking all the information that I share in that book and turning it into a deck of cards that you can have a coach in your back pocket 24-7.

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Peta-Ann: So they're all qualities, they're based on qualities, they're not based on…

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Peta-Ann: mystical… I mean, I'm a soul-coaching oracle reader, I'm an angel tarot reader, I'm, you know, had Oracle cards in my life for over 45 years, you know? I love my cards. And they're an extension of clairvoyance and all the things.

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Peta-Ann: But my cards are all about qualities, and about what quality you need on that… in that particular moment, in that particular time, to move forward, and what action you need to take to move yourself forward. So that's…

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Peta-Ann: They're called Reignite Your Elegant Rebel, Oracle Cards.

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Peta-Ann: And, yeah, and I was…

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Peta-Ann: just… I'm so… I'm so proud of my cards. They're just beautiful. I love them. But, yeah, and that's the difference between my deck and a lot, you know, a lot of mainstream decks, is that they are focused on

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Peta-Ann: the various qualities, even down to, you know, there's one called Love Your Youeness, which is, you know, technically acceptance, which is why I talk about Love Your Youwness, because that's acceptance for me. So, you know, all the… just, you know, today you need to…

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Peta-Ann: find grace, today you need to… you know, that's the sort of cards that, and it's, as I said, they stemmed out of my book, so yeah.

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Peta-Ann: They're very fabulous, but you can find them on my website.

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Peta-Ann: And that's, elegantrebelponders.com.

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Peta-Ann: So, yeah, they're available, and they're actually, for October, they'll be on, they're on, they're on sale from a, for Breast Cancer Awareness Month, yeah.

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Peta-Ann: So, yeah, that's where they are.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, I do. I do a mentoring program called Unmask Your Magic, and basically the underlying thing is, is working out, uncovering what your, how your soul nudges you, or your intuition nudges you, discovering what claire you are to work out how, how to notice, and then working on trusting

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Peta-Ann: your intuition, you know, understanding what your soul yes looks like, what your soul no looks like, and teaching, what I call soul-led decision-making, which is, you know, you sense something, you follow something, and then you take inspired action.

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Peta-Ann: Which is, you know, the cards help you, the card's sort of like a scaffold effect on that, you know, using your cards to do your solo decision making.

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Peta-Ann: And then we use all the information that we… we come together, you know, gather into how to flourish and how to find freedom from external validation.

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Peta-Ann: Yeah, that's the key, is leading people… leading people through a windy path, so that…

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Peta-Ann: Judgment, if someone judges them, it doesn't… it bounces off.

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Peta-Ann: It's, you know, you don't require external validation for your life and your existence. Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that, so empowering.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you. So empowering.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: people need that so much. And by providing that, you're really doing a service to all the rest of the world, because the more we can embrace

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The more we… Can be accepting of other people's newness.

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Peta-Ann: Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, it just ties it all in with the acceptance and non-judgment, yeah.

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Peta-Ann: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be on New World Order. It's wonderful. It's wonderful. It's been such a gorgeous day.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They're such a big part of the UWorld order.

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