Foreign and welcome to the Pat Accounting Podcast with me, your host, Vicki Clark.
Speaker AI'm going to help you get to grips with your finances, save you lots of money and take the stress out of doing your tax return.
Speaker ASo let's get going.
Speaker AHello, hello, hello, hello.
Speaker AWelcome to this week's Live with myself, Vicki and my handsome business partner, Lee.
Speaker AWe are the pet accountant, we run the group and we also cover the whole of the UK for our array of accountancy services.
Speaker ASo this week again, we're on a roll here.
Speaker AWe've not missed a week yet.
Speaker ASo Pat and our back, we are going to chat about some of the products that we offer because again, not everyone knows who we are or what we do and the things that Lee mostly, to be fair, my idea, but Lee implements them because I can't do technology, as we all know.
Speaker ABut Lee is very good at the Excel and all that sort of jazz.
Speaker AAnd we've put things together from feedback from clients and from you guys to help you out and to save you money.
Speaker AThese aren't random products that we've just plucked out within and decided to sell.
Speaker AThese are things that are going to help you guys in your business and save you money, which is the aim of the game.
Speaker ASo what do you want to go through first?
Speaker AWe go through the main one first or we just go through the little ones and then concentrate on the main one because we have got a big reveal.
Speaker AIt's not a gender reveal, it's a product reveal.
Speaker AWhat do you want to do?
Speaker BLeave it down to you.
Speaker BThis, this today is like so disorganized and I have.
Speaker AYeah, to be fair, it was a last minute decision.
Speaker AWe weren't that organized and rather than just not do one, we're coming on, we're just winging it.
Speaker ASo basically right, if you have not been on our website, which is www.pedaccountants.co.uk which my lovely assistant here will put on the screen, you will find a lot of our services that we offer like self assessments, the limited companies etc, etc.
Speaker ABut there's also a store on there where we sell our products.
Speaker ANow, some of these products, for example, we've got the utilities calculator.
Speaker ANow the utilities calculator we put together because if we had a pound for every time someone asked how do I calculate, my utilities would be very rich and we probably wouldn't be sat here.
Speaker ASo we decided to put this calculator together that basically takes into account things like your gas, electricity, water, council tax, broadband cleaning, your mortgage, interest or rent.
Speaker AAnd it basically takes all of that into account.
Speaker AYou put in some information like how many rooms in your house and how long you use each room for, etc.
Speaker AAnd then basically it has a big box at the bottom which will come up with a figure, let's just say 759 pounds.
Speaker AAnd that 759 pounds is what you guys put into your tax return for your utilities.
Speaker AUse of home figure.
Speaker ANow, when people have done this themselves, they've put like 100 quid in, 200 quid in, 300 quid in.
Speaker AWe know that people have bought this calculator, they've done it properly and their figures have come out over a grand.
Speaker AAnd that is the difference between doing it yourself and using this calculator.
Speaker AAnd that's going to save you a hell of a lot of money in tax.
Speaker ASo if you don't know what to include or how much to include, please, please, please download this calculator because it will help you and you can use it again the following year.
Speaker AObviously, if there's anything changes, you would have to buy an updated version, but for now you've just, you know, you've just updated it.
Speaker BYeah, I, at the moment, unless the guidance with HMRC updates, it's pretty much a solid purchase and we've put extra.
Speaker ABits in there to make it even better for you if you're doing repairs, if you are a home groomer or a home boarder, especially those two, this will be a magic, magic tool for you guys and we'll save you a hell of a lot of money.
Speaker ASo please, please invest it that it's an allowable expense and that you can use it year on, year out.
Speaker AAnd like you said, the only time you'd have to buy another one is if HMRC change anything and we would have to update it for you.
Speaker BAnd me and Vicky is all about being transparent as well when it comes to things.
Speaker BSo if you're a dog walker, for instance, where the use of your home is just a little bit in the evening, where you're using, you know, like admin time, then there's no point in buying any calculators that are out there.
Speaker BYou're better off using the flat rate on HMRC's website to claim for your use of home site, simply because you're just not using the house for enough hours to, to make it worthwhile.
Speaker BSo even using our calculator it would, the, the value that you get would be a lot less.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo make, make life simple for yourself.
Speaker BSo if you're a dog walker or, or, or a photographer maybe.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWhere, where the use of the home is minimal use the flat rate expenses, it'll save you a lot more money and it's much easier.
Speaker BWhereas if you're using a specific room of the house for grooming or if you are a photographer where you've got a dedicated space, you know where, where really that you're, you're used, you are literally using the room that the house every single day for eight hours a day, then this calculator will save you money.
Speaker BSo just be mindful of what you do because like I said, you could waste money but ultimately if you are using the home, this will save you money.
Speaker AAnd also if you are a client of ours, you do not need this.
Speaker AIt'll be a waste of money because we already use it for you.
Speaker ASo unless you really intrigued and want to do it yourself, by all means you can purchase it but don't feel that you need to if you're a client because we include it in your calculations anyway.
Speaker AYeah, so yes.
Speaker ASo if you're a home groomer, border especially those two professions.
Speaker AAnd this will be an absolute gem of a tool.
Speaker ASo the next one we have is the tax and pricing calculator.
Speaker ANow for me again, if we had a pound for every time someone said how much money to save for tax, this calculator will tell you how much to save it includes if you've got paye, that's hard to say PAYE income.
Speaker ASo if you've got another job and you're self employed, it will tell you every month how much to put away.
Speaker AYou've got to fill in the boxes.
Speaker AOh, I feel like there's a thing coming here listening on the podcast, please tune into the group because then you'll actually see what Lee's about to show.
Speaker ABut you put the figures in and it will tell you how much to save for your tax.
Speaker ASo there's no more guessing game.
Speaker AOr maybe he's not because he's playing around with.
Speaker BI'm playing because I'm trying to, I'm trying to share the screen but it's not games involved.
Speaker AIt will tell you how much to put away so when you come to do it or when you come to pay and you know exactly what it is that your tax position bill is going to be.
Speaker AAnd also as a bonus it works out how much to charge per dog depending on how much you want to earn.
Speaker ASo if you said to yourself, right, this year I want to earn 60 grand, you can put that in and it'll tell you how much you need to charge per dog and per hour.
Speaker AAnd again, some professions it may not be best for as far as the pricing side of it's concerned, but the tax calculator part of it can be used by anybody and it will tell you how much to save away.
Speaker ASo no more guessing.
Speaker AIt is a fabulous tool and they are cheap.
Speaker ABut yeah, go in the store and look for that if you're struggling, if what you need to put away for tax basically is what I'd use it for.
Speaker AAnd it's fabulous.
Speaker AAgain, created by Lee.
Speaker APlease don't copy it.
Speaker AWhat else do we have?
Speaker ASo we have the.
Speaker AOh God, we've just renamed it.
Speaker AI can't remember what we've got.
Speaker AHe called it.
Speaker BWe've got the bookkeeping spreadsheet as well.
Speaker AYes, we'll do that.
Speaker ASo the bookkeeping spreadsheet.
Speaker ASo again, if you struggle with Excel and you don't really know what to do, there is a bookkeeping spreadsheet that you can use to fill in few bits and bobs.
Speaker ASend it to us.
Speaker AIf we're your accountant, send it to your other accountant.
Speaker AIf you don't use us, it's absolutely fine.
Speaker ABut again, some of those who are technophobes like me, who wouldn't know where to start, you can just download this and use that and fill it in.
Speaker AWe also have our pet Business Basics course, which if you are starting out in business and you're new to self employed, then this is going to be the perfect thing for you because it basically guides you through how to set up your business correctly.
Speaker AWe have so many people that have gone on to make and limit companies when they shouldn't have gone into partnerships when they didn't need to, or gone into sole traders when they should have been the partnership or, or you know, have no clue how HMRC works with dates and record keeping.
Speaker AIf you are literally brand new, then go and check out this course.
Speaker AIt's approved by IPET and will get you PDR points as well.
Speaker ABut if you are an established business, again, don't bother using the course because you already know everything that's in there.
Speaker BThis, this is purely designed for people that are just entering the industry, just setting up their business.
Speaker BReally don't understand what HMRC is, how to register the business, what route to go down, what accountancy software is.
Speaker BSo the modules inside it cover things like your setup costs of how to record those, what you can claim a setup costs.
Speaker BIt goes through branding, marketing, pricing, so it really gives you an understanding of, you know, of how to drive the business forward, how to get your first couple of clients.
Speaker BIt talks about expenses, what's an allowable expense, what's a disallowable expense.
Speaker BIt talks about how you should keep your records so that you know from the very beginning what you should be keeping and what method you should be keeping them.
Speaker AFreebies in there that you can download and use as well.
Speaker AThere's lots of freebies in there.
Speaker AAnd like I said, we get so many people that have come to us or put questions in the group about not knowing dates and how HMRC works or what the VAT threshold is it.
Speaker AThis is like really good to build those foundations.
Speaker ASo you get everything done, right, done.
Speaker BBy simple video steps as well.
Speaker ASo it's not all text, it's my.
Speaker AMy Beautiful Face, Lee's Beautiful Fling.
Speaker AEach topic for you in an easy to understand way.
Speaker ASo you're not going to just get loads of text.
Speaker AIt is like we're doing now, a video explaining each of the different elements.
Speaker ASo if you're new to business, then please, please go and check that out because it is worth its weight in gold.
Speaker BIf so, doing cpd, like Vicky said, is mentioned on the ipet side of things.
Speaker BSo there's that.
Speaker BYou get points for completing the quizzes that's there.
Speaker BAnd a certificate at the end, if you do the quiz is so that you can use those points as CPD towards your ipet side of things.
Speaker AYep, Helen, but will we ever understand hmrc?
Speaker AProbably not, but with this guide you will.
Speaker AYou will understand the important bits.
Speaker AThat's the basic bits that we need to understand when you're starting a business, because like I said, sometimes you just have no idea where to start.
Speaker AIf you've been employed all your life and suddenly you start a dog boom business, you go on to HMRC's website and it's horrific.
Speaker AYou just go around in circles.
Speaker ASo this is aimed to set you off on the right path.
Speaker ASo if you knew, please check it out.
Speaker AWhat else?
Speaker AI think that's it, apart from our mystery that we're about to reveal.
Speaker ASo last year we revealed these as well and we sold them at Gruffs.
Speaker AOh, God.
Speaker AWhy have you made me go huge?
Speaker AHave you gone.
Speaker AI think Lee's disappeared.
Speaker AI'm not sure he was meant to do that.
Speaker BNo, I'm still here.
Speaker BAll I've done is I'm removing myself so that you go a little bit bigger to make it easier.
Speaker BSo we've got something you're about to share.
Speaker AHow's it doing?
Speaker AWe launched these last year and they were a massive hit with people who like the old traditional pen and paper.
Speaker ASome people don't like spreadsheets, some people don't like software.
Speaker AWe get it.
Speaker ASome people's businesses are small enough where you can use pen and paper and you won't ever need to go on software.
Speaker ASo we cater for all, we do not discriminate.
Speaker ASo but what we've done this year, we've made them even better.
Speaker ASo last year we had two of these shiny, shiny packs.
Speaker AOne for Dog Bloomers and one for everybody else.
Speaker AHowever, this year we've combined it.
Speaker ASo this book is covers everybody.
Speaker AWere you gonna say something?
Speaker ANo, it's not.
Speaker ASo I'm gonna give you guys a sneak peek of what's in here.
Speaker ANow, what I enjoy about this, and I did these years ago, by the way, but we've made them bigger, better.
Speaker ASo dog groomers, dog trainers, dog walkers, dog borders, cat borders, whatever you decide you want to board a wolf, you have a section there for your income.
Speaker ASorry, my camera.
Speaker AAnd you can put cash, sales, credit, sales, whatever in there, depending on what you do.
Speaker AAnd there's also space to add some more in if you need to add them in.
Speaker ASo that's how you record your income.
Speaker AObviously we're not going to show it all because people will copy.
Speaker AAnd then this is even better.
Speaker AAnd this is what you're going to love.
Speaker AAnd this is what feedback we had for the expenses for every month.
Speaker ASo there's basically a monthly amount for each.
Speaker AIt gives you a massive.
Speaker ASorry, my camera skills are crap.
Speaker AIt gives you a massive list of what you can include as your expenses.
Speaker AAnd again, you can put whether you've got cash or bank and then put a total column at the end.
Speaker ASo again, this is going to refresh your memory of what you should be putting through.
Speaker ABut if that wasn't enough, also inside here.
Speaker AAnd I'm not going to show you everything, so it'll be an exciting surprise.
Speaker AWhat else we have in here is also how to categorize the expenses.
Speaker AOh, camera skills are quite bad.
Speaker ASo there we go.
Speaker ASo not only does it tell you what to include, it tells you how to group them as well.
Speaker AIt's got information there about our services, what we do also barcodes to all the things we've just explained, if you wanted to delve into those.
Speaker ABut this pack, I mean, it's got mileage logs in there, it's got an asset register.
Speaker ASo we did it.
Speaker AOne assets, a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker ASo if you're buying yourself a bath or a table or a van or a car or whatever it is that you buy, then there is stuff there to lock it all.
Speaker ASo it's kind of like an all in one booklet.
Speaker AEven if you don't use us as new accountant, if you fill this and give it to them, they will love you forever.
Speaker AAnd then at the end just please space to put your receipts in and invoices you can attach to it.
Speaker AO this is snazzy.
Speaker AI just found pages that I didn't know were there and then keeps on giving is there's.
Speaker AI mean honestly we could sit here for like an hour.
Speaker AIt's got annual expenses column that you can put them all in there.
Speaker AIt's got something about utilities calculator.
Speaker AYou can do stock tick, stock takes.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo it walks you through how to value the stock.
Speaker AAnd yeah it is literally it's not given.
Speaker AThere's so much in here guys.
Speaker AAnd you know we do this from your feedback of what needs to be in there, what doesn't need to be in there.
Speaker AAgain, it covers any employment, income, savings, interest.
Speaker AYou can put your annual totals in there.
Speaker ASo it means that you can keep track of what your business is doing a lot better rather than just inputting figures and then never looking at them.
Speaker AIt asks you to do tools of things so that you know where your business is at.
Speaker BIt's important from a.
Speaker BFrom well any, any perspective whether you're running a limited company or a sole trader, you should be reviewing your accounts year on year anyway to how you did last year, to how you're doing this year.
Speaker BThat's the only real way that you're able to make informed business decisions to really grow the business.
Speaker BSo if you don't understand where the income come from or you don't understand where all of the money's going in your expenses.
Speaker BBy transferring things from a month by month basis onto a yearly basis, you.
Speaker BYeah, all the expenses.
Speaker BYou get an overview of how the business done and where the income and where the expenses went throughout the 12 months.
Speaker BNow we only have 125 of these booklets produced we had last year.
Speaker BThey will sell out.
Speaker BThey did last year.
Speaker BSo if you want them get on the website into the.
Speaker BInto the store and you've got the choice of either downloading a digital copy of it where you can print it yourself at home or for an extra £3 we will post you the hard copy.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo quite a few pages in there.
Speaker AYes, it looks like that I mean honestly guys, there's loads in here.
Speaker AEverything you could possibly, what, you know, what is classed as an asset.
Speaker AReally Everything in here.
Speaker AProfessional freeze, postage, loan agreements, mileage logs, income expenses, annual income, savings, interest, use of home, put ease of home in there.
Speaker AAnd also a link to our calculator which is the best and like I said, a place for your invoices and receipts.
Speaker AAnd like I said, we will not be printing any more of these and we only do a select amount.
Speaker ASo again those of you will have them at crafts.
Speaker BSo yeah, if you are going to crafts, we will have whatever we've got left on sale at crafts.
Speaker AYes, we will be there just as you walk in hole one, our usual place where we were yesterday day.
Speaker AAnd so please come and grab these because we've had such good feedback from people buying them last year which is why we've brought them back.
Speaker AIf people thought they were crap, we wouldn't have printed anymore because it's, they're quite expensive to print.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BSo if you love pen and paper records, these are a must buy.
Speaker BJust because I think it, it, it helps you in a, an organized fashion of how to record things.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd it steers you of what you should be recording so that you've got it all in one place.
Speaker BAnd then year on year you've got this book, you can send it to us, we do your tax return, we then send it you back so that you keep your records.
Speaker BAnd then you've got something to look back at last year.
Speaker BAnd this also, what's in there, it asks you at the start of the tax year, which again starts in two months time, what your goals are for that year ahead.
Speaker BBecause the idea is that you want to challenge yourself and set yourself some goals of what you're going to be doing differently over the next next 12 months at those back pages, once you filled the book in, it asks you did you meet those goals and if you did, what did you do and if you didn't, what you're going to do different next year.
Speaker BSo it allows a carry on and it's, it's a way of focusing your attention on your business to get you more money at the end of the day.
Speaker BAnd it's, it's, it's a really good and fun way to make you think about your business differently as well because it's very hard if you're on your own.
Speaker BBusiness can be a very lonely place.
Speaker BSo having something like that, that's going to ask you probing questions to get you to think about things you might realize that you're doing something differently or there's been something that you've wanting to change for quite a while, but you keep on putting it off.
Speaker BSo this is the ideal time to get that jotted down so that it's there physically in the book.
Speaker BAnd you can say, right, I'm going to smash that, I'm going to change what I'm doing and I'm going to make more money from it.
Speaker BSo I would highly recommend, if you do like pen and paper, get yourself one of these.
Speaker AAnd also we do find when we're doing people's tax returns that they miss quite a few things off, like mobile phones, insurance, which you wouldn't think misinsurance, but people do.
Speaker ASo that's why we've got that massive list on there to prompt you to put that in.
Speaker ABecause again, that's going to make a difference between having a tax bill not having a tax bill.
Speaker ASo again, it's going to jog your memory of what to put in there.
Speaker ASo be no more.
Speaker AWhat can I claim for?
Speaker ABecause the majority of them are on there.
Speaker AObviously you might have the odd obscure ones which you can add in, but the most common one for the pet industry are listed in there to help you.
Speaker ASo it is a very, very good tool.
Speaker BAnd so last year we had three different books because we had Walkers and Borders as one, we had Growers as another, and I, I, we had a gen, but we've combined all of that into this one book this year.
Speaker BSo when we talk about expenses, we've given specifics to those industries.
Speaker BAnd then on the sales recording side, we've also split out like the different types of services that people would have and space for you to add in your own as well.
Speaker BSo one book does it all this.
Speaker AYear it is fabulous.
Speaker AAnd what else was going to say?
Speaker AWe are also in the process of putting together a short little course on Free Agent.
Speaker ANow, again, we get a lot of comments on the group and emails from clients of, you know, how to do this on free agent, how to do that on free agent.
Speaker ASo we are putting together basically little videos of how to do things like how to set up an invoice, how to send an invoice, how to categorize, how to split your payments, how to check that you've done the dates correctly, how to add a bank, how to add alone if you've got a loan in there.
Speaker ASo there is going to be basically all of the questions that we get asked.
Speaker AWe're going to do little short videos of how you do these things on FreeAgent that you can get again get from the store once we've uploaded, might take us a couple of weeks because obviously it's a long time to record them all.
Speaker AAnd also it's a technical system to get them on there, so bear with us.
Speaker ABut we are going to be putting a little free agent course together for you guys.
Speaker AAnd so again, you know how to do the basics.
Speaker AI think we've even had a few free agent questions over the last couple of days.
Speaker AYou know, how do I classify my drawings?
Speaker AYou know, all of the basic questions that we get.
Speaker AWe will do little videos on and show you how to do it because that'll help us in the long run and it'll also help you do it correctly because at the end you get.
Speaker BA lot of words.
Speaker BIt's knowledge is empowerment and the more that you understand what it is that you're doing with the software, the more confident that you will become.
Speaker BAnd a lot of clients come to us thinking that they've used the software right and, and to a certain degree people say that bookkeeping is easy, but all I would say is, is check your bank balance against the bank balance that Free agent says that it is.
Speaker BAnd if they don't match, something has gone horribly wrong at some point.
Speaker AIt's the easiest way to check is.
Speaker BThat'S the first time we check as well is the bank balance.
Speaker ASo whatever it says on the 5th of February, if it says 300 pound in your bank statement, but minus 598 pounds on free agent, there's something gone amiss, they should always match and that is a very good way of checking.
Speaker AAnd again that'll be on my little video.
Speaker ABut yes, it might take a little while, but yeah, how to add dual categories to one receipt.
Speaker AAgain, all these things will be covered.
Speaker AWe will go through the group as well and see what questions are being asked on Free agent and we will do a video for it.
Speaker ASo it's going to be a big course but full of little, little videos.
Speaker AThey're not going to be like 20 minute long videos.
Speaker AIt'll be this is how you do this Bish Bash Bosh, click there, do that, do that, end of video.
Speaker ABecause otherwise if we try and explain it all at the same time, the videos are like an hour long and you'd not get anywhere whit.
Speaker BWe tried doing individual free agent training courses a year ago or so and the problem is, is because I'm approaching it from an accountant point of view, it was very hard to Break it down into easy sections when we're doing like an intensive day on the free agent side.
Speaker BAnd like some people would send invoices, other people would record sales as they hit the bank account.
Speaker BSo it was quite difficult to try and tailor it to those specific people there and then was information overload.
Speaker BSo I think by doing it this way and allowing somebody to click into a topic and say, right, that's what I want to try and achieve, it will be much, much easier to do it this way than on a one to one basis.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd you can keep it forever and go, right, oh, I need to do this, or let me go on there and have a look to see if there's a video on that.
Speaker ABecause more than likely there will be.
Speaker AWe're not going to go into the technical aspects of free agent because that's when it gets confused and like journals and things, but we will just give you the basics of how to get it if you're doing it yourself, things you need to know.
Speaker AAnd like I said, best way to do is just check your bank and see if it matches with free agent.
Speaker BThis comes back into as well, these record keeping packs.
Speaker BBecause even if you are on software, the information in these record keeping packs that we've designed, certainly the pages where it tells you what things are to be classified as will really, really help.
Speaker BSo it will tell you, like if you're buying poo bags or gloves or shampoo, it will tell you that that needs to be classified as consumables, unless you're selling the shampoo as a product to your clients, in which case that needs to be classed as a purchase.
Speaker BAnd there's a big difference between the two.
Speaker BBut what these record keeping packs does is it, it tells you what that difference is and why one is a purchase and one is a consumable.
Speaker BSo they actually will.
Speaker BSo even if you're on software where there's certain information within these that you can actually look at and go and say, right, what's a motor expense?
Speaker BWhat comes under the motor expenses category?
Speaker BBecause that might not necessarily be evident when we talk about motor vehicle insurance, for argument's sake.
Speaker BSo somebody could put that under business insurance, when really motor vehicle insurance is a motor vehicle expense.
Speaker BSo it's little things like that that will give you the knowledge of where to put it in free agent.
Speaker BAnd you can create the same categories in free agent as you can, that's in the bookkeeping packs.
Speaker BSo you, you can then, if you are doing your own bookkeeping and you want to Learn the software and you want to make sure you're doing it right with the categorizing.
Speaker BThese record keeping packs will actually help.
Speaker AFabulous.
Speaker AAnd if you want to discuss any of the above, please come and see us at Hall 1 across.
Speaker AWe will be there all week, so myself, Lee and Tegan will be there Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker AAnd we'll also be joined by Jodi, our payroll manager and Nicola, one of our admin team will be there on Friday and Saturday.
Speaker BFriday and Saturday, Saturday.
Speaker AA few of us there, we're going to have plenty of prco to share some sweets, some socks for those of you are desperate for a pair of socks.
Speaker AIt's sort of become our thing and yes, make sure you come and see us.
Speaker AWhat we'll also be launching as well.
Speaker AThis is a Day of Things, our affiliate scheme.
Speaker ASo if you do recommend us to one of your fellow pet professionals for their accountancy services or payroll services and they sign up with us, you will receive a £50Amazon gift card.
Speaker ASo we don't care if you refer 1 or 100 and they all sign up, you will get 50 pound Amazon gift card for each client that you send our way.
Speaker AThe only small print with that is it's given to you after they have made three payments because obviously if we gave them straight away and then they disappeared would be very much out of pocket.
Speaker ASo we're going to make sure that they're going to stay.
Speaker ABut once we've hit that three month mark, we will make a list of how many clients you've referred and you will get a 50 pound Amazon gift card for each one.
Speaker AWe've already.
Speaker BI was going to say it's really important that you fill out the link in the recommend a friend section before that person contacts us so that we know the recommendation come from you.
Speaker AIf they get them to tell us when they ring, when they speak to Tegan before they do anything else, you could say, right, Helen has.
Speaker AHelen whoever has referred me to you and that's where I found your details.
Speaker ASo that will also help if they don't.
Speaker AIf you don't fill in the recommendation at the front.
Speaker BIf they can't come back on call.
Speaker ATo our two weeks then call.
Speaker ABy the way, yeah, it was Helen that recommended us because we all know you've been cheeky.
Speaker ASo just either fill in the recommend a friend or ask the friend to mention your name at the beginning.
Speaker AWe've already had a client recommend to you people bless her.
Speaker ASo there'll be a couple of Amazon gift cards going her way.
Speaker BRecommend a friend link is the preferred method because then there's a record of you telling us about the person.
Speaker BAnd so if you can fill the link in first, that would be much appreciated and then we can reach out to that person as well.
Speaker AYeah, so giving something back.
Speaker AWe wanted to do this for a while, but it's obviously.
Speaker AI don't know if people know mainly.
Speaker AObviously been good individually quite a long time, but together only since 2022.
Speaker AYeah, so this is our.
Speaker AYeah, so this is our third together and we're still trying to catch up on admin to try and get things done because we're so busy, we've just not had time.
Speaker AThe pet account website has been ongoing for like three years.
Speaker ABut we're getting there, it's getting there.
Speaker ASo as we tie things up, we'll be bringing that more stuff like the free agent courses, like the affiliate scheme and anything else you want us to do, like what?
Speaker AYou know, we're open to suggestions.
Speaker AIf there's anything that you think would make your lives easier, that you think we could produce or put together, then please let us know.
Speaker AWe're more than happy to help.
Speaker AAnd what we probably won't do, though, is videos on Xero, because it's.
Speaker AIt was just too complex and it would.
Speaker AYeah, but free agents.
Speaker BA lot of the clients that we have that are with us now, anyway, we're doing the bookkeeping because of the packages.
Speaker BThere's few clients that are on Xero on their own, but we do get an awful lot from like other accountants that come to us that are on Xero that they were doing their own bookkeeping and now has asked us to do as part of the packages.
Speaker BSo the, the space for the packages are limited and that.
Speaker BI feel that's one of the downsides.
Speaker AI will not just say that, by the way, because that's not like a sales thing.
Speaker AAnd I know when you go on this car room, the car salesman goes, oh, well, someone else is interested in this car.
Speaker AAnd you think, oh, our bookkeepers can only do so much in a day.
Speaker ASo once their slots are filled, they are filled.
Speaker AWe can't just keep adding people in because they'll pull the hair out and they'll hate us.
Speaker ASo we can.
Speaker BWe don't want to water down what we do either.
Speaker BSo it's really important that the bookkeepers have enough time to really get into the nitty gritty of the.
Speaker BOf the client's account.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo for us, it's about balancing the workload but also putting A cap on what they physically can do.
Speaker BAnd you know, there are times where we take on new members of staff and that's where our capacity increases and we let you guys know when that happens, you know, and usually we have some sort of offers on at that stage because we try to fill that person's diary up as quickly as possible, but they are limited.
Speaker BAnd, you know, certainly with the Chancellor's announcement of national insurance hikes for employers that are going to kick in from April, we as a team have tried to avoid adding more people to our team at the moment because again, we don't want to be stung by the extra that we've got to pay over in national insurance contributions.
Speaker AAnd also I think we've got enough.
Speaker BYeah, we went on a bit of.
Speaker AA shopping spree for the last two years of trying to find really good accountants and bookkeepers and we have got a very solid team now.
Speaker AYeah, we may, we may purchase a new apprentice at some point this year because they are good.
Speaker ABut other than that, hopefully we will have levelled out by now.
Speaker AAnd again, like Lee said, we'll never just take the client on for the sake of it.
Speaker AIf you're not right for us, we'll tell you.
Speaker AAnd again, you know, if we can find a cheaper way of you doing something, we will do where some accountants do the opposite, will tell you to be a limit company because they're going to get more fees out of you, but we will do the opposite.
Speaker ASo we're always open and transparent about these things.
Speaker AAnd yeah, I think we have a short one this week.
Speaker AJust check out the store, guys.
Speaker AYou know, 24 quid to get some of these products is not going to break the bank and they will save you hundreds of pounds, if not thousands, especially the utilities calculator.
Speaker AAnd again, just make life easy for yourself rather than stressing about how much tax to save.
Speaker AYou know, what you should be putting through these are what these things are produced for is to help you guys.
Speaker AAnd also they're all allowable expense.
Speaker BSo even just one more thing from me, just with regards to our self assessment clients, there was an email that went out yesterday, I think it was, wasn't it?
Speaker BTo all of our self assessment clients.
Speaker BPreviously, me and Vicky had no real preference of how we asked clients to pay.
Speaker BBut because of the budget changes that are coming in April, we're trying to look at ways to increase the efficiency of our team.
Speaker BThe more efficient that our team can be, the less that we have to worry about the impact of the changes in April from the national insurance side.
Speaker BSo we're now asking clients, whenever a client comes on board with us, we're taking their self assessment fee as the full value of the fee and we're dividing that into 12 equal installments throughout the tax year.
Speaker BSo rather than paying as a lump sum when we do the tax return at the end, if you join us this month, we'll work out what 1/12 of that is and we'll start a direct debit to collect that on a month by month basis.
Speaker BWhat we've looked at is what that means for the client in terms of the self assessment is paid within the tax year.
Speaker BThis year will be a little bit different because it's a partial year.
Speaker BBut if we look at from April, if we look at from on April, it means that by the time that we get to the following April when we can do the tax return, it's been paid for.
Speaker BYeah, we did find that some of the clients were struggling certainly to find a lump sum to pay for their self assessments.
Speaker BAnd because they'd left it so late into the January, any accountancy firm won't file any like a set of accounts, whether it's a limited company or a sole trader, until they've received the fee for their work.
Speaker BAnd I understand that it's because they're protecting their money.
Speaker BThere's, there's nothing to say that people will pay after it's been submitted.
Speaker BSo what we want to do is try to relieve that stress of having to find that, that money in a lump sum.
Speaker BIt means that you can get the records to us much sooner in the tax year, which increases our efficiency.
Speaker BAnd it also means that we can increase our client capacity, which means that we don't have to take any more staff on lowering the impact that the budget is going to have to us in April from the national insurance heights.
Speaker BSo it's a way for us as an accountancy firm to try and not pass price rises on and to counteract that.
Speaker BAnd on the flip side, what we're asking our clients to do is just to pay monthly rather than in one lump sum, which has benefits for them as well, because it gives them more time to save for their taxes because they can get their tax returns into us in April and May and June and then it gives them until the following April, sorry, the following January to be able to save for the tax that they're going to hoe hmrc.
Speaker BSo it's a win win on both scenarios.
Speaker BAnd this is just a clever way of us trying to avoid what's going to happen in April when national insurance hikes goes through?
Speaker BAnd again, if you listen to last week's and the week before, I've been telling everybody on here that's got staff, you need to start looking, looking at your prices, looking at the changes that you can make to minimize that impact to your business.
Speaker BAnd as long as you make those changes now, it should be minimal so you don't have to worry about it by the time that we run payroll in April.
Speaker ASo no changes to our fees.
Speaker AIf you pay monthly, if you do want to pay yearly, then there is a smidgen increase.
Speaker AJust it's a very, very small smidge.
Speaker AAnd also just as another reason why we did it is obviously we have found over the last couple of years where we will do the work and then the person doesn't pay.
Speaker AAnd that impacts on our efficiencies as well.
Speaker BFew and far between.
Speaker AIt does happen, but it does happen and it just cancels out that of us sitting, doing the work and then waiting to be paid and sometimes not being paid or sometimes being paid six to eight months after we've actually done the work.
Speaker ASo yeah, there's a slight reason as well on that side, but mostly from.
Speaker BWhat costs as well that you don't take into account like the time that it takes like some to chase that money, the text message cost that needs to be sent.
Speaker BAnd so there's a lot more that goes into that behind the scenes.
Speaker BNot just from us, from any business that are after things.
Speaker BBut you'll also know that if you're a groomer, we are an avid fan of encouraging you to get your clients onto a regular six week cycle and to collect that by direct debit and take deposits.
Speaker BAnd the reason for that is so that you have a regular booking, you have regular cash flow that's being collected automatically and your client is less likely to cancel because you've taken a deposit that could be forfeited.
Speaker BSo we're basically trying to implement what we preach.
Speaker BSo you know, we come from a place of knowledge when it comes to that side of things.
Speaker BAnd it does help, it will help you grow your business because you've got that regular income.
Speaker BIt will mean that you can pay your bills because you've got the regular cash flow.
Speaker BSo again, if you unsure about how you can set up direct debits, we use a system called GoCardless.
Speaker BThere's no monthly fee for it.
Speaker BIt's part of the fees that you collect from your clients.
Speaker BAnd if you have the likes of Free agent or Xero, they can generate invoices and you can set those invoices to automatically generate.
Speaker BAnd if you link it to GoCardless, GoCarders will automatically collect that fee on the invoice due date from those softwares.
Speaker BSo it's really, really simple and you don't have to go down the route of going to your bank and asking the bank to set you up as somebody being able to set a direct debit.
Speaker BAnd it's relatively inexpensive as well.
Speaker BSo it's a great, great tool to any of you that offer regular services.
Speaker BAnd this could walk work for dog walkers, it could work for day boarding if you've got, if you're at home, regular, regular jobs, anything where you deliver a regular service on a regular basis.
Speaker BAnd that fee is a set fee.
Speaker BGokada's direct debit system would be fantastic for you guys.
Speaker AFabulous.
Speaker AWell, short and sweet this week, ladies and gentlemen, next week we will always be on the Wednesday at 1:00 unless something drastic happens.
Speaker ASo we will always be here Wednesday at 1.
Speaker ANext week we are going to do live on expenses, which is always a popular topic for obvious reasons and we haven't done one for a fair while.
Speaker ASo obviously things update, things change of hmrc.
Speaker ASo we will do a live next week on expenses.
Speaker AWhat's not allowed?
Speaker AWhat is allowed, which we know also is a contentious subject.
Speaker AWe will not be discussing massages, chiropractors, glasses, gyms or healthcare.
Speaker BThere was a question in the group and Helen, I'm gonna.
Speaker BI'll answer your question in a second, Helen, of why that is, but there was a question in the group this week is whether or not somebody is a dog walker.
Speaker BThey're having muscle issues with the lead with the dog's pulling.
Speaker BCan they buy a massage machine?
Speaker BThe answer is no, because the massage machine isn't helping you walk the dogs.
Speaker BIt is helping you heal from a personal injury.
Speaker BWhilst the injury may have been caused from repetitive strain with the dogs, unfortunately the injury is to you as an individual, not to you as a business.
Speaker BSo it's a no for an allowable tax deductible expense.
Speaker AYeah, that's what made me think about it.
Speaker ABecause I went to find the podcast, I thought, oh no, I don't know which one we did that on, so maybe we should do one on expenses specifically.
Speaker ABut we were not going to cover that because everyone argues with us and we'd spend an hour just talking about massages.
Speaker ASo we want to include all the other stuff and that's important.
Speaker AAs well.
Speaker ABut are you going to answer this quickly then, before we go?
Speaker BSo Helen's asked.
Speaker BI buy bulk or I bulk buy rabbit food VAT free, but guinea pig is taxable.
Speaker ASo the reason being, the answer to this question.
Speaker BThe reason being is, is that rabbit can be classed as a food within the UK marketplace.
Speaker BSo where you're raising something to be sold for human consumption as food, the food that you feed it is zero rated.
Speaker BSo there is VAT on there, but it's zero rated whilst you can eat guinea pig.
Speaker BAnd guinea pig is quite a delicacy in few other countries.
Speaker BGenerally, guinea pigs aren't grown for human consumption within the UK marketplace and is counted as classed as a pet.
Speaker BAnd therefore, whenever you buy pet food, any sale of food designed for a pet is always standard rated at 20%, even if that's a dog.
Speaker BAnd that's why raw dog food held out to sale for working dogs is zero rated.
Speaker BBut raw dog food held out for sale for pet dogs is standard rated regardless of what VAT treatment your supplier sells it to, you are.
Speaker AAnd we'll continue that in our bat episodes in two weeks.
Speaker AYeah, but there you go, Helen.
Speaker AOnly Lee would know the answer to that.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker ABut again, we might do one of that.
Speaker AWe've done one of that before, but again, it's always good to update it with the changes and things.
Speaker ASo again, please give us some topics that you want us to chat about.
Speaker ALee knows everything obscure and hmrc, like rabbits and guinea pigs.
Speaker ASo there we go.
Speaker AWhat about hamsters?
Speaker BWe eat hamsters.
Speaker AWell, probably somewhere do, but yes.
Speaker AAnyway, we die.
Speaker BPeru.
Speaker BPeru was the guinea pigs.
Speaker BIt's Peru you can get.
Speaker BYeah, you know, odd fact for you.
Speaker AHope you've enjoyed this.
Speaker ALike I said, check out the store if you want to come on board with us.
Speaker AOur books are open now.
Speaker BOur consultancy, 27 pound a month plus that sort won't break the bank.
Speaker AIf you just want some advice, then our consultancy calls are now open.
Speaker AThey were closed in January because obviously it's very busy for us, but they are open again.
Speaker ASo if you just want advice at this stage, then you can get in touch with us and we can set that up and.
Speaker ABut yeah, just let us know if you want to come on board and we will be here next week, on Wednesday at 1:00 talking about expenses.
Speaker ASo please don't miss that one because that's going to be a good one and we hope you have a good week.
Speaker AOh, I won't be here next Wednesday, so he might do on his own.
Speaker AOr he can drag, bring somebody in.
Speaker BI'll drag somebody kicking and screaming.
Speaker AYeah, we'll drag someone from the company on there, maybe Abby, and they'll do expenses.
Speaker ABut I won't be here because I will be sipping cocktails and Budapest, hopefully.
Speaker BI'm gonna warn everybody now be ready for the tech issues at the beginning because I don't know what I'm sharing or who I'm tagging, so.
Speaker BSo best shed luck with that.
Speaker ASo you might just have to get it on the podcast because you probably won't.
Speaker ABut yes, have a good week everyone.
Speaker AStay safe and we, some of us, will catch up with you next week.
Speaker BYeah, have a good week.
Speaker BTake care.
Speaker BBye bye bye.
Speaker AThanks for listening.
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