1 00:00:00,050 --> 00:00:04,250 Host: Today we are pleased to be joined by Nick Gray, author of The Two Hour Cocktail Party. 2 00:00:04,430 --> 00:00:09,290 The only guide you'll ever need to hosting the Perfect Networking Event, and a surprisingly quick 3 00:00:09,290 --> 00:00:16,400 Nick Gray: read, that's the highest compliment when somebody says A fast and a quick read, and I'm like, yeah, this isn't Rocket science. 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,130 How to host a good networking event, how to host a happy hour. 5 00:00:19,130 --> 00:00:19,670 It's easy. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,330 Give 7 00:00:20,330 --> 00:00:20,900 Host: us a bit of your 8 00:00:20,900 --> 00:00:21,140 Nick Gray: back. 9 00:00:21,889 --> 00:00:27,950 So I grew up very middle class in Dallas and in North Georgia. 10 00:00:27,980 --> 00:00:37,849 I went to school in North Carolina, uh, but I started making webpages when I was young, and then I started a web hosting business when I was in high school. 11 00:00:37,879 --> 00:00:39,739 And I got really lucky with that. 12 00:00:39,769 --> 00:00:50,060 And after college, my dad, who, that's where I got the entrepreneurial nature from, he was starting a business in the basement of our house called Flight Display Systems. 13 00:00:50,330 --> 00:00:55,919 They made that map that shows you where the plane is flying across the country, and he made that for. 14 00:00:56,399 --> 00:00:57,899 For small planes, right? 15 00:00:57,899 --> 00:01:05,970 So that map existed, but if you had a small plane and you wanted that, you had to buy the same one that the airlines and Boeing bought. 16 00:01:06,179 --> 00:01:10,020 And over the next couple years, we built it up to about 70 employees. 17 00:01:10,619 --> 00:01:14,460 And yeah, we sold that to a private equity company in 2014. 18 00:01:14,699 --> 00:01:16,859 I'd actually left the business a year. 19 00:01:17,065 --> 00:01:27,354 Before selling it to start and kind of go off on my own, I started my next business, which was called a museum hack, and that's where we did those Renegade museum tours. 20 00:01:27,745 --> 00:01:28,345 I feel like 21 00:01:28,345 --> 00:01:31,465 Host: Renegade Museum tours is going to be a new phrase for a 22 00:01:31,465 --> 00:01:32,125 Nick Gray: lot of us. 23 00:01:32,340 --> 00:01:41,130 Renegade museum tours mean that I would hire people like standup comedians and Broadway actors to lead the tours science teachers. 24 00:01:41,130 --> 00:01:45,030 Imagine like the coolest science teacher you ever had in middle school. 25 00:01:45,180 --> 00:01:50,280 I would hire them to be the museum tour guide and I would teach them about art and the museum. 26 00:01:50,519 --> 00:01:52,710 They worked for me, not the museum. 27 00:01:52,919 --> 00:01:56,910 So they would tell you the juicy gossip and the back stories about the. 28 00:01:57,575 --> 00:02:00,455 We started it for the tourists, right? 29 00:02:00,515 --> 00:02:05,555 They're gonna go to the museum one out of a sense of obligation, but we wanna give 'em a fun experience. 30 00:02:05,705 --> 00:02:16,785 And then where we made our money, where we turned it into a multimillion dollar business, was by taking that fun family activity and turning it into like a corporate team building experience. 31 00:02:17,405 --> 00:02:18,945 It was a really cool experie. 32 00:02:19,445 --> 00:02:20,015 But how does 33 00:02:20,015 --> 00:02:20,915 Host: that make you a party 34 00:02:20,915 --> 00:02:21,425 Nick Gray: authority? 35 00:02:21,755 --> 00:02:22,205 Right? 36 00:02:22,235 --> 00:02:23,525 How does it make you a party expert? 37 00:02:23,525 --> 00:02:40,015 Well, I launched that last business museum hack on the back of this network of acquaintances and loose connections and weak ties I'm talking about and trying to encourage people to think about your network of acquaintances. 38 00:02:40,020 --> 00:02:42,815 Many of us maybe have a couple close friends. 39 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,620 15% of males do not even have one close friend. 40 00:02:48,150 --> 00:02:50,410 We're in a friendship recession. 41 00:02:50,800 --> 00:03:00,700 Most American adults haven't made a new friend in three years, and so I'm on this mission with my book to think about and help people say, Hey, how could your life be different if you had more acquaintances? 42 00:03:00,700 --> 00:03:04,750 Because acquaintances can help you refer customers for your. 43 00:03:06,025 --> 00:03:09,875 Acquaintances can turn into friends and you can build big relationships. 44 00:03:10,114 --> 00:03:15,965 I got to be an expert by hosting hundreds of parties because when I moved to New York, I was not social. 45 00:03:16,204 --> 00:03:18,875 I did not know how to meet people or talk to people. 46 00:03:19,084 --> 00:03:21,815 I would go to these networking events that were terrible. 47 00:03:22,174 --> 00:03:23,555 I just didn't have a lot of success. 48 00:03:23,555 --> 00:03:28,625 So instead, I decided to bring the party to me and start to figure out how I could host my own. 49 00:03:29,155 --> 00:03:35,515 I wrote this book really for the first time host, for the person who doesn't have experience hosting. 50 00:03:35,845 --> 00:03:47,875 My goal is to truly inspire a new generation of hosts, cuz I think many people never host or they only host for special life moments like a birthday, a wedding, something like that. 51 00:03:48,325 --> 00:03:54,295 I'm trying to say, look, the biggest benefits for you and your business can come when you can make hosting 52 00:03:54,565 --> 00:03:55,105 Host: a habit. 53 00:03:55,655 --> 00:04:01,525 Introverts will recognize the value here, but some of our more extroverted listeners may say, I don't need this. 54 00:04:01,954 --> 00:04:03,035 What do you say to them? 55 00:04:03,305 --> 00:04:05,555 Nick Gray: I talked to a guy last night, his name is Angelo. 56 00:04:05,555 --> 00:04:12,305 He lives in Phoenix, Arizona, and Angelo sent me a text during his party, um, he said, look, we got 20 people here. 57 00:04:12,305 --> 00:04:14,675 They seem to be socializing enough. 58 00:04:14,675 --> 00:04:19,235 Everybody's talking, do I need to run an icebreaker? 59 00:04:19,445 --> 00:04:20,885 That's what most people think. 60 00:04:20,885 --> 00:04:22,115 Well, everybody's talking. 61 00:04:22,115 --> 00:04:24,125 Why do I need to add structure? 62 00:04:24,180 --> 00:04:24,870 To the party. 63 00:04:24,870 --> 00:04:27,120 I said, Angelo, you need to do it. 64 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,290 I don't have time now. 65 00:04:28,290 --> 00:04:30,960 You don't have time to explain, but just trust me. 66 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,900 Do it and I'll tell you why later. 67 00:04:34,020 --> 00:04:37,170 And he did it and he said, oh my God, you were so right. 68 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:42,810 Running an icebreaker helped to shuffle the room and mix people up. 69 00:04:43,490 --> 00:04:49,700 So one of the things that that common host, people who host already say, I don't need to add structure. 70 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:51,950 I wanna be the cool host. 71 00:04:52,130 --> 00:04:53,870 I just wanna be chill. 72 00:04:54,110 --> 00:04:56,510 Well, when you run an icebreaker, it does two things. 73 00:04:56,510 --> 00:05:00,380 Number one, it helps break up your existing conversations. 74 00:05:00,380 --> 00:05:03,260 Have you ever been at a party and you get trapped? 75 00:05:03,610 --> 00:05:06,940 In a conversation, you're kind of ready to be done with it. 76 00:05:06,940 --> 00:05:10,840 Well, when you do an icebreaker, it gives you an excuse to break up the room and mix it up. 77 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:18,730 Icebreakers also help for everybody at the party to kind of signal and say, who's there, so you can go up and talk to somebody new. 78 00:05:18,730 --> 00:05:24,970 That's the whole purpose of my party formula, is to encourage as many little connections as 79 00:05:25,450 --> 00:05:25,610 Host: possible. 80 00:05:25,990 --> 00:05:29,860 We're talking a lot about having structure to the party is spontaneity over. 81 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,099 Nick Gray: No, I love spontaneity, especially for advanced hosts, right? 82 00:05:34,099 --> 00:05:38,750 See, and an easy way to remember what goes into the party formula is to think about my name. 83 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:39,710 My name is Nick. 84 00:05:39,715 --> 00:05:41,599 It's spelled N I C k. 85 00:05:42,020 --> 00:05:44,330 The N stands for name tags. 86 00:05:44,659 --> 00:05:47,060 Every one of my parties always has name tags. 87 00:05:47,410 --> 00:05:51,670 When you use name tags, it shows that there's no clicks at your party. 88 00:05:51,910 --> 00:05:53,800 Everybody's on the same level. 89 00:05:53,950 --> 00:06:01,750 It's a safe space to go up and start new conversations, and so the name tags really help to the spirit of having new conversations. 90 00:06:01,750 --> 00:06:02,830 That's what I'm obsessed with. 91 00:06:03,365 --> 00:06:03,695 I am 92 00:06:03,695 --> 00:06:06,875 Host: assuming the other three letters in your name are part of the acronym. 93 00:06:06,875 --> 00:06:07,355 Also 94 00:06:07,685 --> 00:06:13,775 Nick Gray: the I stands for icebreakers, and what you would do is you'd circle everybody up, maybe give 'em a five minute warning. 95 00:06:13,775 --> 00:06:16,085 Hey everybody, in five minutes we're gonna do a round of icebreakers. 96 00:06:16,355 --> 00:06:20,405 By the way, that gives them an excuse to end the conversations. 97 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,780 Because again, we want a lot of starting and stopping of new conversations. 98 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,460 You'll circle everybody up and say, all right, everybody, we're gonna just go around the room real quick. 99 00:06:29,460 --> 00:06:31,770 Say your name, say what you do for work. 100 00:06:31,775 --> 00:06:36,570 If you don't wanna talk about work, you can say a hobby that you do, and then say the icebreaker. 101 00:06:36,575 --> 00:06:38,099 And so that's the last one, right? 102 00:06:38,104 --> 00:06:44,549 So all of them have name what you do for work, and then the icebreaker question at the beginning of a party. 103 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,359 There's not. 104 00:06:46,505 --> 00:06:48,545 People aren't ready to be vulnerable. 105 00:06:48,635 --> 00:06:49,925 They're not ready to share. 106 00:06:50,135 --> 00:06:54,125 Please keep in mind a good icebreaker is a fast icebreaker. 107 00:06:54,215 --> 00:06:55,805 It's not a brain teaser. 108 00:06:55,925 --> 00:07:02,015 It's why I don't like the question of what's your favorite book that's definitive. 109 00:07:02,075 --> 00:07:03,875 It might elicit judgment. 110 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,855 People are like, oh my God, what are they gonna say? 111 00:07:06,155 --> 00:07:08,105 What can I think to sound the smartest? 112 00:07:08,405 --> 00:07:09,365 It's hard for people. 113 00:07:09,365 --> 00:07:10,375 You put them on the. 114 00:07:10,765 --> 00:07:17,395 Now about an hour later at your party, that's when I suggest doing an advanced icebreaker. 115 00:07:17,815 --> 00:07:18,865 The Advanced icebreaker. 116 00:07:18,870 --> 00:07:21,805 The purpose is to add value to the room. 117 00:07:22,195 --> 00:07:25,635 We're gonna ask you what's the best piece of media. 118 00:07:26,215 --> 00:07:27,955 That you've consumed recently. 119 00:07:27,955 --> 00:07:41,605 It could be a podcast like this, a movie or a TV show you binge watched on Netflix because everybody's gonna go around the room and give good recommendations in a peer group, a group of neighbors, or people in your community. 120 00:07:42,130 --> 00:07:55,360 Sharing those recommendations is so powerful cuz everybody gets ideas of new stuff that they might wanna watch, read, or listen to, and it will make your party seem like a gathering of very smart people. 121 00:07:55,390 --> 00:07:56,230 That's what I love. 122 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,090 Host: So what makes two hours the 123 00:07:58,090 --> 00:07:58,840 Nick Gray: sweet spot? 124 00:07:59,255 --> 00:08:05,854 I think two hours is great because I suggest doing my parties on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday nights only. 125 00:08:06,094 --> 00:08:12,124 Why is that the number one fear for a new host is that nobody will show up or worse. 126 00:08:12,124 --> 00:08:14,854 Only two or three people will show up and it'll be awkward. 127 00:08:15,244 --> 00:08:21,785 So I tell people, only host your parties on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday nights, cuz they're not socially competitive nights. 128 00:08:22,025 --> 00:08:26,585 Two hours shows them this isn't a crazy drinking bender. 129 00:08:26,915 --> 00:08:29,374 Wild rag party in and out. 130 00:08:29,374 --> 00:08:31,295 It's an efficient social gathering. 131 00:08:31,565 --> 00:08:34,595 Two hours also helps to get people to show up on time. 132 00:08:34,895 --> 00:08:38,735 Always list the start time and the end time. 133 00:08:38,885 --> 00:08:44,645 It gives people an idea of what to expect, and it encourages more people to show up when it's only two hours. 134 00:08:44,645 --> 00:08:46,145 They're like, oh, this is easy. 135 00:08:46,145 --> 00:08:47,225 I can do this. 136 00:08:47,375 --> 00:08:48,245 There's an easy. 137 00:08:49,340 --> 00:08:49,610 So 138 00:08:49,610 --> 00:08:54,380 Host: now we know how to throw the perfect party, but how can we be a perfect guest at other people's 139 00:08:54,385 --> 00:08:54,890 Nick Gray: parties? 140 00:08:55,250 --> 00:09:02,540 A pro tip that I have is if you're truly looking to build a relationship with the host, you know, a host is pretty busy at the party. 141 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,700 Number one, you could ask the host, Hey. 142 00:09:04,965 --> 00:09:07,435 Do you want me to help people serve drinks as they arrive? 143 00:09:07,825 --> 00:09:13,705 You could ask the host, say, Hey, would you like if I just took some photographs here at the party, just some like candid, fun photos. 144 00:09:13,705 --> 00:09:15,205 I could take a group photo as well. 145 00:09:15,205 --> 00:09:16,555 I'll send 'em to you later that night. 146 00:09:17,035 --> 00:09:24,205 Oftentimes, the host forgets to take photos during their own party, and yet they can be a really positive, happy memory during the party. 147 00:09:24,610 --> 00:09:26,150 You can help by tidying up. 148 00:09:26,450 --> 00:09:35,270 Oftentimes there's party shrapnel, there's empty cups, there's beer bottles, there's cans, there's plates, there's just garbage that accumulates. 149 00:09:35,570 --> 00:09:38,900 You can help the host by doing that to sort of, um, tidy up. 150 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:42,470 You can help create new conversations and merge groups. 151 00:09:42,500 --> 00:09:45,590 If you notice somebody that's not included, bring 'em over. 152 00:09:45,595 --> 00:09:46,820 Say, Hey, please come on over. 153 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:50,240 Here's what we're talking about, by the way, for a guest, one of the. 154 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:55,330 Things that you can do is when you join a group, remember these two words. 155 00:09:55,330 --> 00:10:00,460 If you walk up to a group and you wanna join it, simply say, please continue. 156 00:10:00,670 --> 00:10:04,720 Don't make them feel like they have to go around and everybody introduce themselves. 157 00:10:04,930 --> 00:10:05,920 Just join the group. 158 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,060 Say, please continue. 159 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:12,850 Listen, and when it makes sense to naturally join the conversation and introduce yourself, you can do that. 160 00:10:12,855 --> 00:10:14,080 Then of course, 161 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,600 Host: we have to ask, what's the best party that you have ever 162 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:17,050 Nick Gray: thrown? 163 00:10:18,170 --> 00:10:23,600 Hesitate to share this because it's not helpful for me to share the big, crazy parties that I host. 164 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:37,040 But I'll tell you what I did anyway, last year for my 40th birthday, I rented out America's largest, uh, indoor water park for all my friends, and I invited about 40 of my friends and we all just rode water slides all morning. 165 00:10:37,250 --> 00:10:41,000 It was a lot of fun, but the next day we were all like limping and hurt. 166 00:10:41,090 --> 00:10:41,930 It was pretty funny. 167 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,610 So where can listeners find the. 168 00:10:44,330 --> 00:10:50,660 I can find the book wherever books are sold online, and you can use these tips and techniques to make any social gathering better. 169 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,400 Thanks for taking the time today. 170 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,540 Thanks for having me.