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I got a haircut.

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Looks good, doesn't it? I call

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it a reverse mohawk. Yeah.

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Some of you got that too. Yeah.

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Well, good morning. Yeah, welcome to

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fake spring that we're having right now.

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I mean, we've got some beautiful weather out there, but if you haven't lived here

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very long, let me just say one word to you,

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psych. Yeah, but that's all

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right. Yeah, let's jump right in. Stand up. We're going to read

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a passage from the book of Mark.

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He also said, this is what the kingdom of

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God is like. A man scatters seed on the

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ground. Night and day, whether he sleeps or

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gets up, the seed sprouts and grows, though

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he does not know how. All by itself,

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the soil produces grain, first the stalk,

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then the head, then the full kernel in the head.

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As soon as the grain is ripe, he puts the sickle to

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it because the harvest has come. Father, I

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thank you for life. I thank you for

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your Word. I pray for

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the life of the Word to be born in us today

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through the presence and power of the Holy Spirit. In Jesus' name,

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amen.

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In the early, well, actually early 1988, I know

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exactly what year it was.

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I was the acting director of the Africa

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Multination for Christ Institute in Harare, Zimbabwe.

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And yeah, acting director, they let me do that

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for a couple months and then they, yeah, that's why they say

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acting director. And it must have been

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January, and I had a student come to me and he said,

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"Pastor, I need to tell you that I'm going

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to leave the school." And I said, "Oh, well, I'm

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sorry to hear that. Why?" And

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he explained the reason why. And I—

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it sounded strangely American, quite frankly, but

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I said, This was the reason they gave me. He said, "Yeah, Pastor, you know,

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the first year that I was here, oh, the

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Spirit was moving. It was so rich. It

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was so strong. I could feel his presence every

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day. This year, it

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ain't happening," was basically what he had to say.

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He didn't say, "It ain't happening," but

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that's what he said. And I said, oh,

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that's a very bad idea. And I

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went into explaining to him seasons and the

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importance of seasons. So because you just went through a season

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where you saw this fruitfulness and you saw this growth

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and everything, but now there needs to be a season of

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dormancy when it's not, oh, look

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at this, but where the roots are growing and where you're being

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established. That's what happens. During those seasons of

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dormancy. And if you don't have that, if a tree doesn't have

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that, then it won't be too long before maybe

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an ice storm will come along or maybe even just a puff of wind and

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the tree is gonna fall 'cause it's not

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established. See, you gotta have that season.

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Last week, Pastor Kevin brought an excellent

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sermon. He didn't use the word seasons, but he said

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times. And he talked about there being 3 times

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that we experience in our life. And he mainly

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focused on tough times. And I feel like, you

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know, that was— it was a timely message for sure. And it

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resonated with a lot of people.

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But the tough times are actually

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the easiest times to get close to God.

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Whenever something comes along and just, you know, cuts us off at the

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knees, so to speak, you know,

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that's when we seek God. In fact,

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you know, that's often, for casual churchgoers, that's often

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the only time they come is when something's going on that's

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hard. And so, oh, I need to be there.

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Tough times tend to either take us in one of two directions. They

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either drive us to our knees, or they tend

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to cause us to raise our fist to God. And he's okay with

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both. He's certainly okay with

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us being driven to our knees and going, help me.

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You know, I'm at the end of my rope. And you know, and God's going,

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good. 'Cause now maybe I can do something.

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My strength is made perfect in weakness. But even if

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we're shaking our fist at God, he doesn't mind that because

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a relationship, I've learned over the years that a

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relationship, and usually this is a marriage

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relationship, it's only really

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over when you don't care anymore.

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We don't care, you know. If you care enough to be mad,

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if you care enough to be angry, there's a chance, you

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know, that fire can be rekindled

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there. But it's not just in marriage, it's all

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relationships. If you get to where you don't care anymore,

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the relationship is over. And if you're shaking your fist

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at God, at least He knows you care. And you

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know that you care.

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He also touched on, though he didn't spend a lot of time talking about it,

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he touched on the good times. These are

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dangerous times. The good times are.

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They're very dangerous times. Often in good times, we

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tend to forget God because, hey,

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what we need God for? You know, things are

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good. Things are going well.

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Moses told the children of Israel over in Deuteronomy, he said this,

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"When you have eaten and are satisfied," I've been

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well satisfied lately, "praise the

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Lord your God. Be careful that you

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do not forget the Lord your God. Otherwise, when you eat

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and are satisfied, your heart will become proud and you will

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forget." the Lord your God. My

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dad used to bemoan people

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becoming successful, so successful,

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as he put it, they started making money hand over fist, and

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then they drift away from the Lord. You never see them again. Did

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that ever happen in Coalfield? Yeah, happened in

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Millersville too. And it kind of happens in Smyrna.

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As well because we become satisfied. Oh, I got

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this now. Well,

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that's an Old Testament quote. Over

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in Revelation, in the New Testament,

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Revelation chapter 2 and 3, there are letters written to churches.

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And in chapter 3, the last letter

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that is written is to the church of Laodicea. And that's generally

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the one that we consider to be the worst one. 'Cause

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Jesus didn't have anything good to say about them and

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kind of blasted them. But here's why.

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You say, I am rich, I have acquired wealth and do not need

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a thing. But you do not realize that you are wretched,

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pitiful, poor, blind, naked.

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Whoo, yeah.

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There's an important sermon here. But I'm not going to preach

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that this week. I'll let somebody else

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preach it at some other point in time. And if you needed to hear it,

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the Holy Spirit has already preached it to you. So there.

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I've only got time for one sermon today, and I want to focus on

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the third time that Pastor Kevin talked about

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the other times, the

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90 to 99% of the time. Of our

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lives? Where's God then?

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What's going on? What's going on there? What's he doing?

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You know, we sometimes read the Bible and it

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seems that these characters, these people in the Bible, stuff was happening

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to them all the time.

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But if we look a little bit closer, I mean, take Abraham. We

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know a good bit about Abraham. Important

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guy.

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But consider this, he lived to be

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175. And if you take all of the

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events in his life that we know about and you put them all

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together, we got maybe about 5 or 6 months there.

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What was happening the other 174 and a half years

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of his life? He was having

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days like us. Not every day, not

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every year, not every decade brought the

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command to sacrifice Isaac,

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brought the war with invaders or

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disturbance in his household or the

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opportunity to entertain the Trinity.

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Moses, we know a lot about Moses. And

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there was a whole bunch of stuff that happened before he left Egypt.

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He was raised in Pharaoh's palace and

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trained in all the ways of Egypt, murdered a guy,

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took off as a fugitive. Between then and when

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he was sent back to Egypt, it was 40 years.

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What was he doing? Working,

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tending sheep, got married, had kids.

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Just regular ordinary stuff. And the day

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that he saw that burning bush, you know, he was at work

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and he was kind of,

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I don't know, ambling. I don't know, what do shepherds do? I mean, when it's

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not sharing sheep, sharing time, I mean, They

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flea dip or something?

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No, really. And so he was doing

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what shepherds do, I guess, you know, writing songs and looking at the stars. But

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he saw this bush that was on fire. And apparently that's not

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a highly unusual thing in dry, arid

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desert-like conditions. But he looked at it

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long enough to realize, wait a minute, that bush is

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on fire. That bush was on fire. It's gone.

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And I remember yesterday that one's not burning up.

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He's paying attention. It's what he was doing.

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And who do we know the most about in scripture? Well, we know the most

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about Jesus. And we

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know more about him than anyone else. Yet, We have

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a partial record of less than

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10% of Jesus' life, less than

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3 of the 33 years He's here. And if

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we have these records,

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you know, some may think, well, you know what, that's— I hear that you're saying

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that there was other part going on, but you know, they got it

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done in 3 years. I mean, God just, wow. Oh,

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no. You see, God's work that Jesus did

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actually started about 6,000 years before that.

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And it's still going on, as a matter of fact.

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And today, Peter says a

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time will come when unbelievers are going to be saying this. Where

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is this coming he promised? Ever since our ancestors

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died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of

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creation. Ain't no Jesus going to come down from the sky and He can

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save you. Well, you're an unbeliever

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because he sure is. And I believe that he sure is. And I

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don't have that kind of attitude except sometimes

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maybe, maybe I'm going,

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where is this job that God promised me?

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Where is this future husband, this future wife that's

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out there somewhere that I've been looking for for all these years?

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Where's this ministry that God was going to open up for me?

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We have a tendency to go there for

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sure. But our lives aren't all highs and lows.

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Our lives are mostly comprised of

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ordinary days. Can we accept that?

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This is what the kingdom of God is like.

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There's planting, there's harvesting, there's events, there's

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fruitfulness and stuff going on. All the rest is God

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doing His slow work

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that we don't really see and we can't really

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understand. We

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can sing about it. Even when

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I don't see it, He's working. And even when I don't

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feel it, He's working. Because He never stops. He never

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stops. He never stops working. God is working. Yeah.

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And that's true. And we see it and we believe it and we're

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singing it. And then we stop singing and we forget it

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because this day is just a regular day.

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28, in everything God is at work for the good. And we

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know that in everything God is at work for the good of

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those who love him and have been called according to his purpose.

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Except when we don't know it.

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Eugene Peterson wrote a book, written

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several. He's the guy who translated The Message Bible. But he

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wrote a book called "A Long Obedience in the Same Direction."

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I haven't read it.

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Sorry, sorry, Wayne.

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I've read several of his books though, and they're really good.

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I'm sure this one is too, but

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I've read the title

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and I think I'm preaching the sermon.

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He didn't coin that phrase though.

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Ah, it was first said by the

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philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche. And

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yeah, he's a philosopher. We don't do that anymore. But he wasn't a

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believer. But he used that phrase

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to describe the process that results

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and has always resulted in the long run in something

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which has made life worth living.

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That's pretty good. There you go.

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And Nietzsche's problem was that he did not know what ultimately makes life

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worth living. Now, Peterson did,

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and so he wrote this book and he titled it this because

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what it is, is it's about a steady lifelong journey

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with God.

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It's the pinnacle. Of what Nietzsche was

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trying to describe. It's what makes life worth living.

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I don't know if you caught it when I put the book's

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cover up, but he subtitled it, "Discipleship

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in an Instant Society." Oh,

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hallelujah. In the

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early '80s, I led a young adult Bible

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study. In our house and, excuse

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me, we, there were probably around 20

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or so regulars that came. But one night

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there was this young man who, it was his first time to be there. I

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mean, you know, when you're only talking about 20 people, you know if somebody's

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new who hasn't been there before. And he came with this girl who

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came all the time to it.

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He seemed to enjoy it. Wade, were you there that night or was it— I

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think it was Todd who was there.

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He seemed to enjoy it and he left and took the girl home. And

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some people always would hang out and talk. And Todd, Wade's brother,

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I was talking with him. He was the last one out the door. And the

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young man came back. And he came

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back to say,

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How can I do this real quick? How can I get where you guys

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are? I mean, really quick. And

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I could tell it was all about this girl. 'Cause you see,

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she really was into what was going on and

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he could see that, you know, we were, you know,

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not on the same plane he was and stuff. And he wanted to get there

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'cause that'd help her to be more into him.

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And you know, Todd and I just looked at him

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and said, there is no quick way. I mean, you know,

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there is no— oh, there's got to be. No, there's not a quick way.

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We never saw him again, so I'm going to assume that

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he did not begin along obedience in the same direction.

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But that was 40 years ago.

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It's gotten worse since.

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And there is no quick way to do it. And you know, you have to

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kind of be careful because there are those who have packaged it and who

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have, will sell it to you. And

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all you gotta do is just buy this, listen to this, watch

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this, and wham, next thing you know,

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you're going to be a disciple.

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Well, you may or may not be a disciple, but it won't be because of

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that. You see,

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I was brought up

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in a rural Southern Pentecostal environment.

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That is my dad in Slater's Creek in

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Millersville baptizing

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somebody.

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Lovely tractor tire up on the

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bank there. But I recognize that

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spot. I think I was baptized in it a couple of times, come

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to think of it.

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Now, I want to say before I go any further into this,

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how much I greatly appreciate my heritage.

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I mean, seriously. It was— Michelle and

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I were talking this last week because she married

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the guy who has led a

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charmed, blessed life. You know, and

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I don't know why. I mean, I— well, I don't know why she married me,

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but I also don't know why I've had this charmed, blessed life.

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The only thing I— 'cause it's not, you know, it's not because

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I deserve it or anything that I did. I know me better

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than you. And you ain't going to find

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out the rest of it. But

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I think it's the heritage that got passed down generation to

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generation to generation. And it's just,

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wow, that's good. And

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it's not just the blessings that have been passed down, the

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material blessings, but the spiritual blessings of

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peace and joy and contentment

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and the spiritual blessings. The spiritual blessings of being introduced to God at

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a tender age and being able to spend— well, anyway,

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I greatly appreciate it. There was a time in my life when I was

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younger when I was ashamed of it. And to be very honest,

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I see some heads nodding who had similar

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environments to me, but I'm at a place for sure and have been for a

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long time where I really appreciate it. I really do. It

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wasn't the only way. We kind of thought we were, We didn't

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claim to be outright, but we just knew.

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Can't be the Baptists. I

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mean, you know, those guys after church, they come out and smoke in the

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front of the church. They throw those cigarette butts down.

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Can't be— well, I'm going to stop right there.

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But while I do appreciate it, we were taught several things that

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that seemed obvious at the time, I've had

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to kind of reevaluate. 'Cause one of the

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things we were taught was come to church expecting.

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You need to come expecting. You need to come expecting God to do something.

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And you need to come to see a move of God. And my

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dad used to say, my dad was a great man. I'm proud to be his

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son, but not everything he said,

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necessarily made sense. He used to

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say, "You only can get out what you put in."

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No, that's not true. We always get out more than

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we put in. And we can't possibly begin

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to get out what God gives back to us. But he'd say, you know, come

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expecting and come to put it in. He'd say,

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"Get in, get out, or get run over." And I was going, "Well,

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hallelujah."

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See, we weren't just going through the motions like some of these people out there.

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Oh no. Oh no. We weren't just going through. We

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came to get— to do business with

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God. And we did.

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And we claimed to

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We claimed to reject dead ritual.

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Yeah. However, we certainly had our own rituals.

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They just weren't dead 'cause they were moving.

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We expected, and when we saw it,

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we called it the move of the Spirit.

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When the music hits the sweet spot,

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move of the Spirit comes. Now, I'm certainly

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not— I'm very thankful for what the Lord's given us music-wise.

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And let me just say this, ever since we brought drums and

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guitars and stuff into the church, it's gotten a whole lot better

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than when I was growing up. But,

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you know, we— You come to that place, oh yeah, this is it. This

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is where the Spirit is moving. And for millenniums,

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people and God has used music to set an environment.

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That's not necessarily the same thing as the move of the Spirit.

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But in my day, when I was growing up,

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it was pretty close because see, we didn't— the music

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didn't necessarily take us there. But if we got in the service and there

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were a lot of people crying and there was a lot of shouting going on

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and people were falling out on the floor and something, And then some

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blessed old soul back in the congregation without

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anybody saying a word would break into,

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"Give me that old-time religion. Give me that

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old-time religion. Give me that old-time

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religion. Woo! It's good enough for me." And boy,

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it was. You don't get much closer to heaven in a worship service than that.

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You really— it was good for Paul and Silas. It's good

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enough for me. It was good for my fathers. It's good

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enough for me. And I'm not making fun of it.

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It was great. It was great. That

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was fabulous.

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Crying at the altar? Oh my Lord. The Holy

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Spirit is here. Michelle and I were talking this week. She was telling

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me she went to this church that

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there was this lady who was weeping in the service.

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And after a while, she wouldn't stop weeping and they

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escorted her out. And I said, "Was she wailing?" She

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said, "No, she was just crying. She was just

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weeping." Wow.

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So in your church, If they were weeping, they'd

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lead them out of the service. In my church, if they weren't weeping,

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they would escort the pastor out of the church.

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Wouldn't take long.

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Caught up in some form of ecstasy. And if none of those

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things happened, we often felt let

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down. And too often, if they

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didn't happen, we made them happen.

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When I first heard— I preached a couple of times when I was a

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teenager. I don't recommend it.

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But, and it certainly wasn't all that good when

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I did it. But I felt pressure.

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Felt pressure when I started preaching to make something

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happen at the altar call. And boy,

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have I heard some altar calls over the years. I've heard

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altar calls that were longer than the sermon. You know, and there were

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times, and I'm serious, there were times when I

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was sitting there, and I'm sure Barbie felt the same way, and

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probably Allen and some of the rest of you who grew up in similar

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environments. There were times when I went, I've got to go down there and get

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somebody. Get saved or this service is never going to end.

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Because he's not going to stop till somebody does.

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And I felt pressure because if I preached and

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nobody came forward and nobody got saved and nobody got healed

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and nobody started crying, then I didn't have the anointing.

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At least that's what I thought. But I also noticed

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that it was often the same people each week doing the

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same things with the same results, which was nothing

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changed. Nothing changed in their life.

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Nothing, nothing. The way they lived their lives didn't

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change. So anyway, that's what, that's what I was brought up in. And then a

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strange thing happened.

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I married a Presbyterian.

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And I don't know how much you know about Presbyterians.

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We called them the frozen chosen back in the day.

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And Michelle told me not to say that because there might be

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some Presbyterians here who might be offended by it.

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But first of all, Presbyterians tend to have a real

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good sense of humor. And second of all, even if they don't, they know I

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was predestined to say that before they—

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If you say you believe it, you know, you got to put

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it into practice. Married a

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Presbyterian. She passed away

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and I married a Roman Catholic.

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I could just see my

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ancestors in heaven going, "Oh,

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come on." That great cloud of witnesses shaking their head.

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Anyway, but I discovered

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that walking with the Lord is not necessarily about coming

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expecting to see something.

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My Presbyterian wife, I had a father, Jack

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Haley, and he rocked my world.

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He actually believed that infant

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baptism was a real thing. I mean, he believed it. Serious.

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You know, his daughter got

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into the charismatic movement and felt like, you know, I'm a believer

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now. I am a believer and I wanna be baptized. "Come

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on, you've been baptized. You don't need to be baptized."

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He never shouted, "Amen!"

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I, one of my favorite moments ever in

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church was the last time we went to Glenleven

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Presbyterian with Papa and Granny, and

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they would sit on the back row. And this particular Sunday,

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they had a, a supply preacher. In other

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words, he'd never preached there

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before, but he was preaching that Sunday. And

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we were on the back row, we could see everybody in the church. And there

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were a couple of African American ladies who came to the church

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and they were visitors. And I knew they were visitors because that's the only time

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I'd ever seen an African American in the church.

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But The pastor, as he was preaching, he said

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something. I don't remember what it was. I mean, it wasn't— he didn't

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get it going, but he said something pretty good.

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And one of the ladies went, "Amen,

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brother."

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I mean, that church, you could

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feel the silence. And from the back, we could see

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every head in the church go,

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What just happened? I loved it. It was great.

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He has never spoken in tongues. And from where I was

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brought up, obviously he could not be filled with the

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Spirit. I said

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he rocked my world. He

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was faithful. In worship. It mattered to him,

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even though nothing ever happened

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except that week. He was

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consistently in the Word. I don't remember him necessarily ever

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taking a class or, you know, doing

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anything like that, but he was— he just read the Word every

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day of his life.

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And he was to this day the singular man

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I knew who most demonstrated the fruit of the Spirit.

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Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,

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faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.

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How could this be?

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How could this be?

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And then when

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Michelle and I got married and she began to teach me things,

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and it would have been— a lot of those things have been things that have

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been good things for me to have known quite a bit earlier, but, you know,

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know them now, better late than never.

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I ain't an old dog. I can learn new tricks.

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But one of the things that Michelle has taught

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me has been

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to truly not be afraid of silence

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in worship, because that's often

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when God is speaking the loudest to people.

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In high school, my best friend was Hank Abbott.

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And he had a lot of good friends, and I had a lot of good

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friends. I think we were best friends. And I remember

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one evening we were driving into Nashville, and I knew Hank and I were

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deep friends when I discovered, when it dawned

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on me that we were sitting there in silence.

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Neither one of us had anything to say, but we didn't feel the least

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bit awkward. We felt

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comfortable in each other's company.

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The move of the Spirit,

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sometimes it's observable, but Jesus said

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when He was asked, said

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the coming of the kingdom is not something that's going to be observed with the

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eyes. It's not something that somebody could say, "Here

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it is." Because the kingdom of

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heaven is within you.

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It's where deep calls to deep.

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I certainly enjoy a move of the Spirit in the service.

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I mean, you know, obviously there's only 3 or 4 of you guys

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who've ever been in a service where they broke out singing "Give Me That

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Old-Time Religion," or you would know it's sweet.

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I enjoy the move of the Spirit in a congregational setting when it's

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genuine, when it's genuine.

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If you come to worship and nothing ever happens,

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that's probably a bad thing. But if you come to worship and

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something has to happen, That's

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equally not a good thing because the flesh can only

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give birth to flesh, not to

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spirit. And more importantly is to

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realize that our faith is not about practicing

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religion. It's about a relationship. It's about a

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lifelong relationship with your Creator who has

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redeemed you to Himself. That's what it's about.

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Corporate worship can help because I

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believe it was Don Finto who

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described the church service as this is like an ocean-going

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vessel. And we're all out there in our little canoes and

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our little dinghies and our kayaks, and a little wave comes along and

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we tend to get tipped over. But the ocean-going

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vessel, is essentially unmoved by it. And it

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brings us back to center. It establishes us.

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That's why it's important to be in worship. Can you believe in Jesus

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and not go to church? Well, absolutely. But why would you not

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go?

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It's where you get conformed to the image of Jesus Christ. Does a lot of

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the— see, if I'm just— it's a lot easier for me to

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believe in Jesus and not mess with any of you.

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Because then it's never tested.

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But to believe in Jesus and hang out with Him, you know, the

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cross, the cross was a terrible thing,

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a massive ordeal, and rightly so. We tend to focus

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in on it. But that 24-hour period

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really wasn't even 24 hours, was not the hardest part

Romans 8 00:37:33

of Jesus' assignment. The hardest part of Jesus' assignment

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was putting up with us.

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Really. You can do anything for

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18 hours, but for

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years putting up with a bunch of knuckleheads. And if we're going to

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be conformed to his image, then God's probably going to bring some knuckleheads into

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our lives. Probably

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going to bring some people who don't understand us and treat us treat

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us wrong.

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Some come to— oh, and let me, yeah, I'm kind of running out of time,

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but I'm gonna finish and I'm gonna do quickly, but you need to

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listen fast 'cause this is all good. Some come to

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church these days, and I think this is really like a

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last 10 or 15-year thing, come to church and say, tell me

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how I'm supposed to handle these things that are going on in the world.

Romans 8 00:38:30

Tell me how I'm supposed to handle these wars and how I'm supposed to handle

Romans 8 00:38:33

these politics I'm supposed to handle these tragedies and

Romans 8 00:38:38

this economy? How am I supposed to— tell me how to—

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How about this? How about I don't tell you,

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but I point you toward the Holy Spirit and let Him tell you

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how to handle it?

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Because if I tell you, A, there's a

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real strong possibility I could be wrong,

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And B, you're going to need me to tell you next time too.

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But if the Holy Spirit tells you,

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that's a whole different thing. Ritual can help

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us keep our focus,

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but this relationship is more than these things. It is a long,

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often slow process.

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By which Philippians 1:6 is

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accomplished. He who began a good work in you will carry it on

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to completion till the day of Christ Jesus.

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How long is that? Rest of your life.

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And not just during the good times or the bad

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times or the challenging times, also

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in the, eh, times.

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The rest of our lives on this plane. This is a verse that we

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often hear and would like quoted: Be still and know that I am

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God. I will be exalted among the nations. I

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will be exalted in the earth. This doesn't just mean take a break.

Romans 8 00:40:15

It doesn't just mean, well, you've been, you've been doing all this work

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and everything. Now it's time to take a rest. And know that I'm

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God. No, no, this

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is all the time. Be still,

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cease striving, a lot of translations say, and

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know that I am

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God. Trust that he is working.

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This is where we understand that he will be.

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Regardless of what's going on out there, really regardless of what's going on

Romans 8 00:40:52

here, he will be. And it's

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also where we truly come to know him.

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It isn't until you spend ordinary

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days with someone that you get to know them.

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You can have experiences with them. You can You can have

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events with them. You can share tragedies with them and share

Romans 8 00:41:17

joys with them, but— and you'll learn about them.

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But it's not until you spend day after

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day after day after day after

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day after day that you really get to know

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them, that you really get to know who they are.

Romans 8 00:41:43

Jesus said, this is eternal life,

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they may know you, Jesus

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Christ, whom you have sent. This is what

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makes life worth living.

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You guys, come on. Yeah, you come on down here.

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I didn't hurt y'all's feelings or anything about that? Okay, good. I'm glad.

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Maybe I did hurt Robert's feelings. I don't know.

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I don't necessarily expect anybody to come weeping into the altar. You

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can if you need to. It doesn't really,

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you know, Yeah,

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email Kevin.

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But we're going to give you an opportunity to come if you need prayer,

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because this is that ocean-going vessel. And sometimes you just need

Romans 8 00:42:47

a place, a harbor. So with those who are going to

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pray with people, come down and the rest of you stand.

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And let's

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think about God.

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I,

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uh, one other thing that Michelle has taught me— I don't want to

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embarrass her by talking about her too much, but I grew up

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in, uh, in a church situation where

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we usually left talking about what

Romans 8 00:43:26

happened at church.

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We don't discuss that very much anymore. When we

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leave, she wants to talk about

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what happened in me. And

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that's just something to ponder, something to think about.

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Raise your hand. Let me give you a blessing. May the

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God and Father of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,

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who sent his Son into the world that we might have life and

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have it to the full, life worth living,

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through the grace and presence of the Holy Spirit,

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may he give you the eyes to see

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and to understand what life worth living really

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is. Through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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Amen.