1 00:00:02,190 --> 00:00:05,100 Welcome to this week's Crowd Church service. 2 00:00:05,460 --> 00:00:09,300 We are a digital church on a quest to discover how Jesus helps 3 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:11,550 us live a more meaningful life. 4 00:00:11,970 --> 00:00:16,230 We are a community, a space to explore the Christian faith and a place 5 00:00:16,230 --> 00:00:18,240 where you can contribute and grow. 6 00:00:19,260 --> 00:00:23,760 Our service, uh, will last about an hour and in a few seconds you'll 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,530 meet our hosts, uh, for our service, who will introduce today's talk. 8 00:00:29,110 --> 00:00:33,430 After the talk, we will have a time of worship and reflection after which we 9 00:00:33,430 --> 00:00:38,470 head into Conversation Street, where we look at your stories and questions 10 00:00:38,739 --> 00:00:41,050 that you've posted in the comments. 11 00:00:42,129 --> 00:00:46,690 Now, we want to invite you to connect with us here at Crowd Church, and we've got a 12 00:00:46,695 --> 00:00:50,620 few ways in which you can do just that. 13 00:00:50,830 --> 00:00:55,090 Firstly, you can engage with Crowd from any device during our 14 00:00:55,090 --> 00:00:57,365 livestream, and if you're up for it. 15 00:00:57,835 --> 00:01:01,785 Why not invite a few friends over and experience the service together? 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34 00:02:28,665 --> 00:02:32,025 I know, I, um, I need to do something about that. 35 00:02:32,454 --> 00:02:33,915 Yeah, it's that time of year, isn't it? 36 00:02:33,915 --> 00:02:35,775 Um, yeah, we're almost there. 37 00:02:36,215 --> 00:02:36,765 Tree's up. 38 00:02:37,350 --> 00:02:38,880 The trees up aren't quite there. 39 00:02:38,970 --> 00:02:42,580 Well, the trees up and I turned the decorations, the 40 00:02:42,580 --> 00:02:44,070 lights in the garden on before. 41 00:02:45,644 --> 00:02:48,285 But they tripped all the electrics in the house, the electrician. 42 00:02:48,965 --> 00:02:49,855 I was like, oh dear. 43 00:02:49,984 --> 00:02:53,614 So I, yes, I need to do some, um, some work on that. 44 00:02:53,755 --> 00:02:56,474 And just remind what you do for, for a living again Dan. 45 00:02:56,495 --> 00:02:56,975 Yeah. 46 00:02:57,845 --> 00:02:58,334 Yeah. 47 00:02:58,465 --> 00:02:59,774 At least I know how to fix it. 48 00:02:59,954 --> 00:03:00,165 Yeah. 49 00:03:00,165 --> 00:03:02,445 I was gonna say, just, just remind me what you do for a living again? 50 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,080 Yeah. 51 00:03:04,490 --> 00:03:04,770 Electrician 52 00:03:08,250 --> 00:03:08,850 That's awesome. 53 00:03:08,940 --> 00:03:09,840 That's awesome. 54 00:03:10,350 --> 00:03:13,620 Uh, if you are joining us for the first time, warm welcome to you, 55 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:15,140 welcome to our online church. 56 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,290 It's great that you are here. 57 00:03:16,290 --> 00:03:19,680 Great that you could come join myself and Dan, we're gonna get 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,610 into, uh, the resurrection today. 59 00:03:23,610 --> 00:03:26,790 We got Pete Farrington doing the Talk on the Resurrection, so look forward to that. 60 00:03:26,790 --> 00:03:27,150 We got that. 61 00:03:28,545 --> 00:03:30,615 I do have to explain a little bit about what's gonna happen. 62 00:03:30,615 --> 00:03:32,565 Cause it is a, it's only a little bit different to note. 63 00:03:33,015 --> 00:03:33,825 Uh, but that's okay. 64 00:03:33,825 --> 00:03:37,635 If you are watching on Facebook, a very warm welcome to you. 65 00:03:38,085 --> 00:03:40,635 Um, we've pinned the link to the YouTube channel. 66 00:03:40,635 --> 00:03:45,195 So do come join us on YouTube if you can as we are migrating. 67 00:03:45,345 --> 00:03:50,280 Uh, Crowd livestream to just livestream on YouTube only going forward. 68 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,950 So we're still doing both, still doing YouTube and Facebook. 69 00:03:53,250 --> 00:03:54,870 Um, so you can still watch us on Facebook. 70 00:03:55,110 --> 00:03:58,410 Uh, but if you can join us on YouTube, that would be great. 71 00:03:58,710 --> 00:04:00,080 Uh, good evening Nicola. 72 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,090 Hey Matt, have you worn this shirt yet? 73 00:04:03,090 --> 00:04:04,140 Nichola says, no. 74 00:04:04,530 --> 00:04:05,370 That will come out. 75 00:04:05,370 --> 00:04:06,330 Nicola Trust me. 76 00:04:06,450 --> 00:04:10,230 Oh yes, we've got a very special Christmas shirt, uh, which Nicholas 77 00:04:10,235 --> 00:04:11,670 sent into me, which is awesome. 78 00:04:12,150 --> 00:04:14,790 Uh, and so yeah, I'm really, really excited. 79 00:04:15,755 --> 00:04:16,245 That. 80 00:04:16,285 --> 00:04:16,675 So, dang. 81 00:04:16,675 --> 00:04:18,715 You've got, you've got some catching up to do, bud. 82 00:04:18,895 --> 00:04:21,475 I, I have, I definitely, um, yes. 83 00:04:21,565 --> 00:04:22,615 Need to dig out my jumper. 84 00:04:23,305 --> 00:04:23,575 Yeah. 85 00:04:23,575 --> 00:04:24,245 The very least. 86 00:04:24,535 --> 00:04:25,675 At the very least, yes. 87 00:04:25,675 --> 00:04:26,365 Get, get on it. 88 00:04:26,820 --> 00:04:29,995 Now, if you, uh, if you do have a photo of yourself in a Christmas 89 00:04:29,995 --> 00:04:31,315 jumper, we would love to see it. 90 00:04:31,315 --> 00:04:34,675 And if you don't mind it being on the live stream, send it through. 91 00:04:35,295 --> 00:04:37,825 Uh, you can WhatsApp that through or you could email it through. 92 00:04:37,885 --> 00:04:39,565 Um, uh, we would love to see it. 93 00:04:39,655 --> 00:04:42,205 Just like I say, just be warned if you send me images. 94 00:04:42,555 --> 00:04:45,885 There is a chance that it might appear on the livestream. 95 00:04:45,945 --> 00:04:47,625 Just say hashtag the same. 96 00:04:48,645 --> 00:04:49,155 Okay. 97 00:04:49,215 --> 00:04:54,095 So let uh, I was just about to say, Dan, tell them about the little 98 00:04:54,095 --> 00:04:56,085 error that we've got, but it's probably best that I explain it. 99 00:04:56,090 --> 00:04:57,585 Cause lemme just explain it to you. 100 00:05:00,615 --> 00:05:07,380 So what has happened, uh, is that, We have Pete Farrington this week 101 00:05:07,380 --> 00:05:09,600 speaking to us about John's Gospel. 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,120 If you are, uh, new to crowd or if you're just joining us. 103 00:05:12,420 --> 00:05:16,920 We have been working our way through the Gospel of John, right? 104 00:05:16,980 --> 00:05:20,610 Um, in a series called Origin, where we're looking at the start of 105 00:05:20,615 --> 00:05:23,490 the church, sort of the Christian movement, the church movement. 106 00:05:24,465 --> 00:05:28,815 And we've been working our way quite rapidly through John's gospel with an 107 00:05:28,815 --> 00:05:33,045 idea that in the new year, we're gonna slow down a little bit and work a little 108 00:05:33,045 --> 00:05:36,765 bit more methodically through the Book of Acts, which I'm very excited about 109 00:05:36,765 --> 00:05:38,685 because Acts is just a stonking book. 110 00:05:38,685 --> 00:05:40,425 Some amazing stuff happens in acts. 111 00:05:40,935 --> 00:05:45,945 And so, um, we asked our speakers to, to speak on certain things. 112 00:05:45,950 --> 00:05:49,785 Now, John, uh, Pete, uh, say John, uh, Pete, Pete Farrington is gonna be 113 00:05:49,790 --> 00:05:52,965 talking, like I say about the resurrection for the keen odd amongst you, you 114 00:05:52,965 --> 00:05:55,760 will, you'll go, hang on a minute. 115 00:05:56,685 --> 00:05:57,825 We seem to have missed it. 116 00:05:58,165 --> 00:05:58,585 Yes. 117 00:05:58,590 --> 00:05:58,995 Yes. 118 00:05:59,295 --> 00:06:00,195 We, we've missed it. 119 00:06:00,195 --> 00:06:00,495 We missed 120 00:06:00,495 --> 00:06:06,585 He's resurrected without, um, a critical portion of, of Jesus' life. 121 00:06:07,335 --> 00:06:07,875 Yes. 122 00:06:07,905 --> 00:06:10,305 Now, let me just say this is not Pete's fault. 123 00:06:10,305 --> 00:06:14,715 This is entirely my fault, um, uh, that we missed out a piece of scripture. 124 00:06:14,745 --> 00:06:18,045 So this week and next week, uh, we've got both Pete Farrington and John 125 00:06:18,045 --> 00:06:22,065 Harding talking about the resurrection, uh, which is great and wonderful. 126 00:06:22,085 --> 00:06:25,445 And we've got both talks and they're both phenomenal, uh, as you would expect. 127 00:06:25,445 --> 00:06:26,794 So we've got some good stuff coming. 128 00:06:27,975 --> 00:06:34,305 So but I did realize once we'd got Pete's talk in, I was like, oh, we seem to 129 00:06:34,305 --> 00:06:38,455 have missed a little bit of scripture. 130 00:06:38,745 --> 00:06:42,825 Uh, which is the death burial, uh, of Jesus, the sort of, the bit the 131 00:06:42,975 --> 00:06:44,625 sort of leads up to the resurrection. 132 00:06:45,135 --> 00:06:49,445 Um, and so what we're gonna do is just bring everybody up to speed. 133 00:06:49,495 --> 00:06:53,835 Uh, we're gonna talk about the death of Christ in quite rapid fashion, 134 00:06:54,164 --> 00:06:57,015 which is, I appreciate not giving it its due care and attention. 135 00:06:57,375 --> 00:07:00,914 Uh, but it, it, unfortunately, it is what it is on this occasion. 136 00:07:00,945 --> 00:07:03,315 Um, but we have talked about the death of Christ quite 137 00:07:03,315 --> 00:07:05,234 significantly in past livestreams. 138 00:07:05,354 --> 00:07:08,984 If you would like to know more about that, especially the online 139 00:07:09,224 --> 00:07:12,974 alpha course, you can, uh, you can go and look at it in there. 140 00:07:15,030 --> 00:07:15,960 Was that clear enough, Dan? 141 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,110 Did I explain that well enough or did you just zone out when I was talking 142 00:07:20,910 --> 00:07:25,560 ? Partially ? No, I think you explained that well. 143 00:07:26,145 --> 00:07:26,415 Good. 144 00:07:26,475 --> 00:07:26,715 Yeah. 145 00:07:26,865 --> 00:07:27,015 Good. 146 00:07:27,015 --> 00:07:28,215 So we're jumping straight in. 147 00:07:28,695 --> 00:07:30,865 So we're gonna jump straight into Conversation Street. 148 00:07:31,185 --> 00:07:31,395 Yeah. 149 00:07:31,395 --> 00:07:31,615 No. 150 00:07:31,615 --> 00:07:33,585 Well we're gonna do a bit of Conversation Street now we're gonna 151 00:07:33,585 --> 00:07:34,365 talk about the death of Christ. 152 00:07:34,365 --> 00:07:38,535 We're gonna bring it up to speed and then we are gonna hit, uh, our normal stride. 153 00:07:38,595 --> 00:07:40,395 And then we're gonna have a short Conversation Street at the end. 154 00:07:40,395 --> 00:07:43,895 So we're mixing it up a little bit, but that's okay because I'm Batman. 155 00:07:44,565 --> 00:07:45,895 Uh, and so it's just. 156 00:07:46,935 --> 00:07:49,005 It is, is the way it's now. 157 00:07:50,159 --> 00:07:51,719 So let's talk about the death of Christ. 158 00:07:51,719 --> 00:07:56,670 Why do Christians talk about the death of Christ? 159 00:07:56,700 --> 00:08:00,570 Why do we walk around with crosses on our necks or on our 160 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,909 t-shirts or printed everywhere? 161 00:08:03,180 --> 00:08:10,140 Why are we so fascinated with this instrument of torture and death in 162 00:08:10,380 --> 00:08:15,840 what can only be described as a very odd, um, in a very odd sense, Matt Crew 163 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,499 put in the comments, I'm not Batman. 164 00:08:18,739 --> 00:08:21,165 All I'm saying is you've never seen me and Batman in the same room. 165 00:08:21,225 --> 00:08:22,485 I just, I don't need to say anything else. 166 00:08:23,095 --> 00:08:27,615 Um, so Dan, any thoughts on this? 167 00:08:27,615 --> 00:08:28,185 Why? 168 00:08:28,185 --> 00:08:32,445 Uh, not whether I'm Batman, but you know, why do Christians, uh, 169 00:08:32,715 --> 00:08:35,125 why do we talk about the death of Christ as much as we do? 170 00:08:37,335 --> 00:08:40,245 It's it, when you, we get so used to it, don't we? 171 00:08:40,245 --> 00:08:43,965 Get so, so used to seeing that cross around, like you say, 172 00:08:43,965 --> 00:08:45,735 around people's necks on churches. 173 00:08:45,795 --> 00:08:46,985 That's amazing that. 174 00:08:47,635 --> 00:08:50,295 The symbol of, of Christians all over the world. 175 00:08:50,655 --> 00:08:58,395 Um, forgetting that it was a torture symbol that, um, but I suppose 176 00:08:58,395 --> 00:09:04,005 the, we were, were, let's put it into just one sentence, almost, 177 00:09:04,455 --> 00:09:09,465 that Jesus died, tortured, punished for a crime he didn't commit. 178 00:09:09,825 --> 00:09:10,065 Yeah. 179 00:09:10,095 --> 00:09:13,835 For, well, for more than, for all the crimes that we committed. 180 00:09:14,385 --> 00:09:15,165 He died. 181 00:09:15,435 --> 00:09:23,275 And that's why it's central to our faith that Jesus took on all our, our 182 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,455 sin, all the things we've done wrong. 183 00:09:25,635 --> 00:09:30,825 The reason that we can't be, couldn't be righteous. 184 00:09:30,830 --> 00:09:34,035 The reason that we couldn't be made holy. 185 00:09:34,035 --> 00:09:39,195 He said, I'm gonna take all those things on because I'm holy and I'm gonna die 186 00:09:41,175 --> 00:09:43,814 with the great news of what's coming up. 187 00:09:44,225 --> 00:09:44,765 Yeah. 188 00:09:44,765 --> 00:09:44,855 Yeah. 189 00:09:44,870 --> 00:09:45,115 Resurrection. 190 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,005 Yeah, absolutely. 191 00:09:46,005 --> 00:09:47,445 The resurrection's a critical part. 192 00:09:47,805 --> 00:09:49,065 It's a really interesting thing. 193 00:09:49,065 --> 00:09:51,195 Have you, have you heard of the Divine Exchange? 194 00:09:51,195 --> 00:09:55,095 You've heard of substitute, let's use a theological term, substitutionary, 195 00:09:55,665 --> 00:09:57,465 substitutionary atonement. 196 00:09:57,945 --> 00:10:01,785 Uh, a very posh term and it's a really interesting idea. 197 00:10:01,875 --> 00:10:03,495 You know, why did Jesus have to die? 198 00:10:03,635 --> 00:10:05,445 Well, the Bible says the wages of sin is death. 199 00:10:05,445 --> 00:10:10,125 So there had to something somewhere had to, had to give away with all this sin. 200 00:10:10,635 --> 00:10:19,110 Um, and there was a, I remember years ago my, uh, little sister Amy, 201 00:10:19,290 --> 00:10:25,079 um, she was born 18 years, uh, I was 18 years old when she was born. 202 00:10:25,079 --> 00:10:26,670 So there's, there's quite a big age gap between us. 203 00:10:26,670 --> 00:10:31,860 And I remember standing in, um, her bedroom when she was a couple months 204 00:10:31,860 --> 00:10:35,910 old and we were changing her nappy. 205 00:10:35,910 --> 00:10:37,180 And I was up there with my dad. 206 00:10:38,340 --> 00:10:41,520 Uh, so changing her nappy or a diaper for anybody outside of England, 207 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,360 um, and she was really not well. 208 00:10:45,570 --> 00:10:47,280 She was really, she was quite poorly. 209 00:10:47,550 --> 00:10:50,430 I mean, nothing life-threatening, but she was just, you know, you 210 00:10:50,430 --> 00:10:52,110 know what it's like when you've got little kids and they're poorly. 211 00:10:52,115 --> 00:10:55,860 My dad said something, which actually is the heart of every dad that I've known 212 00:10:55,865 --> 00:10:59,550 since, um, I was not a father at the time, but I remember dad saying this 213 00:10:59,550 --> 00:11:00,690 and I remember it sticking with me. 214 00:11:00,695 --> 00:11:03,780 He said, you know what Matt, he said, I wish I could be sick for her. 215 00:11:04,110 --> 00:11:07,200 I wish I could take that sickness out of her because she doesn't 216 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,070 understand what's going on. 217 00:11:08,070 --> 00:11:08,820 Poor little thing. 218 00:11:09,180 --> 00:11:11,320 And I wish I could give her my health. 219 00:11:11,740 --> 00:11:12,110 Right. 220 00:11:12,570 --> 00:11:17,235 So what my dad was expressing was what theologians call substitution. 221 00:11:17,564 --> 00:11:21,075 Substitutionary atonement was this divine exchange. 222 00:11:21,285 --> 00:11:21,795 Yeah, yeah. 223 00:11:21,944 --> 00:11:22,395 Thanks, Dan. 224 00:11:22,785 --> 00:11:29,835 Uh, was this desire to take something, uh, bad away from your 225 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,505 child and give them your good stuff. 226 00:11:32,685 --> 00:11:39,075 And so in the Bible we have this, this, um, picture where Jesus takes 227 00:11:39,135 --> 00:11:45,249 upon himself our punishment, our sickness, our disease, our sin, our 228 00:11:45,249 --> 00:11:47,850 angst, our anxiety, our brokenness. 229 00:11:47,850 --> 00:11:55,020 He takes all of that upon himself, but then he gives us his righteousness, 230 00:11:55,020 --> 00:12:01,709 his peace, his joy, his salvation, his, um, all of these amazing things, 231 00:12:01,709 --> 00:12:05,400 which have taken me 30 years, and I only feel like I'm scratching the 232 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,839 surface of what they actually mean. 233 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:07,140 Right. 234 00:12:07,650 --> 00:12:11,459 Um, but it's this divine exchange and that happened at the death of Christ. 235 00:12:11,459 --> 00:12:15,420 So he took upon himself all of that stuff from us and gave 236 00:12:15,449 --> 00:12:18,479 us, uh, his amazing stuff. 237 00:12:18,479 --> 00:12:20,310 And it's, it's the story of the gospel. 238 00:12:20,314 --> 00:12:24,810 But like you say, Dan, it's nothing without the resurrection. 239 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:25,199 Right? 240 00:12:27,735 --> 00:12:31,545 It was, I mean, it was amazing that he did that for us. 241 00:12:32,295 --> 00:12:35,055 But it was the conquering of death, wasn't it? 242 00:12:35,060 --> 00:12:43,125 That that's the, the, the celebration that it, um, he died for us, but in that 243 00:12:43,125 --> 00:12:49,025 death, he, he conquered death because we're gonna find out, he rose again. 244 00:12:49,365 --> 00:12:50,345 Yeah, absolutely. 245 00:12:50,790 --> 00:12:51,330 Absolutely. 246 00:12:51,330 --> 00:12:54,330 So we're gonna get into Pete's talk, um, about the resurrection. 247 00:12:54,330 --> 00:12:57,930 Then Dan and I will be out back after that, uh, for, 248 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,790 um, uh, Conversation Street. 249 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:03,240 But actually after the talk there's a brief time of worship and then we'll 250 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,710 be back for Conversation Street. 251 00:13:04,710 --> 00:13:06,780 So, uh, get busy in the comments. 252 00:13:06,785 --> 00:13:07,470 We'll be in there. 253 00:13:07,470 --> 00:13:09,090 Dan and I jumping in saying hello. 254 00:13:09,390 --> 00:13:12,810 Uh, so it'd be great to see you in there and we'll be back in just a few minutes. 255 00:13:12,810 --> 00:13:14,310 I'm just looking for the button on my. 256 00:13:14,810 --> 00:13:17,805 I'm just gonna click the mouse thing on my screen cause it's probably easier. 257 00:13:18,165 --> 00:13:19,605 Uh, so here is Mr. 258 00:13:19,605 --> 00:13:22,455 Pete Farrington, uh, talking about the resurrection of Christ. 259 00:13:23,444 --> 00:13:24,495 Hello Crowd church. 260 00:13:24,525 --> 00:13:26,265 It's fantastic to be with you again. 261 00:13:26,625 --> 00:13:30,645 And today I'm gonna be walking us through the final part of the Gospel of John. 262 00:13:31,095 --> 00:13:34,875 Um, while I do that, I may, uh, glance to my right. 263 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,520 Now and then, uh, it's not because I've got the footy on, it's because 264 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,550 I've got a baby monitor here and my little boy is asleep upstairs. 265 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,449 And hopefully he will stay that way, uh, for a little longer. 266 00:13:46,050 --> 00:13:51,449 Um, so today we're looking at John chapter 20, and, uh, we'll start 267 00:13:51,454 --> 00:13:52,829 at the very beginning, verse one. 268 00:13:53,699 --> 00:13:58,800 So on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early while 269 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,790 it was still dark, and she saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. 270 00:14:03,329 --> 00:14:07,815 So she ran and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus 271 00:14:07,815 --> 00:14:12,135 loved, and said to them, they have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we 272 00:14:12,135 --> 00:14:13,835 do not know where they have laid him. 273 00:14:15,045 --> 00:14:17,805 Um, so here we see that the first eyewitness of the empty tomb, 274 00:14:17,864 --> 00:14:21,165 Mary Magdalene, we've actually met her a few times before. 275 00:14:21,734 --> 00:14:24,974 Um, she's the one who Jesus cast seven demons out of. 276 00:14:25,064 --> 00:14:30,165 And, um, this is massive that she's the first person to see the empty tomb. 277 00:14:30,824 --> 00:14:36,765 Um, the Jewish historian Josephus just a few decades after this said that a woman's 278 00:14:37,255 --> 00:14:41,860 testimony at the time was not deemed acceptable in a court of law because of 279 00:14:42,340 --> 00:14:44,729 "the levity and boldness of their sex". 280 00:14:46,130 --> 00:14:51,280 Um, a guy called Calsus in the second century scoffed at the idea of Mary 281 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,030 Magdalene being the first eyewitness, calling her a hysterical woman. 282 00:14:55,510 --> 00:15:00,220 Um, and he, he talked about her being, uh, deceived by sorcery and all this. 283 00:15:00,340 --> 00:15:04,210 Um, and then a guy called Philo, who was a contemporary of Josephus, 284 00:15:04,250 --> 00:15:09,585 said of women that "she easily gives way and is taken in by plausible 285 00:15:09,585 --> 00:15:11,715 falsehoods, which resemble the truth. 286 00:15:12,555 --> 00:15:16,995 The female sex is irrational and akin to bestial passions, fear, 287 00:15:17,175 --> 00:15:22,155 sorrow, pleasure and desire from which ensue, incurable diseases 288 00:15:22,215 --> 00:15:24,870 and, uh, indescribable weaknesses." 289 00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:30,675 I would like to point out at this point that not all views expressed 290 00:15:30,675 --> 00:15:34,995 in this talk are my own, um, but I, I include those quotes here to give 291 00:15:34,995 --> 00:15:39,885 you a, a little bit of a, um, glimpse of how women were viewed at the time. 292 00:15:40,694 --> 00:15:46,425 And, uh, this is really important because if you were going to make up a story and, 293 00:15:46,430 --> 00:15:52,320 and try to make it sound credible which is what many have argued, um, that the, 294 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,730 the disciples did with, uh, with the tomb and the whole story of the resurrection. 295 00:15:57,270 --> 00:16:00,990 Uh, if you wanted to come up with a mad conspiracy theory and, and you really 296 00:16:00,990 --> 00:16:05,280 wanted it to catch on, well, probably the very last thing you would've done 297 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:10,920 in the first century would be to have had a woman as the first eyewitness. 298 00:16:11,835 --> 00:16:15,195 Um, but let's go back to, uh, and continue in verse three. 299 00:16:15,285 --> 00:16:19,005 So, Peter went out with the other disciple and they were going toward the tomb. 300 00:16:19,305 --> 00:16:23,085 Both of them were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter 301 00:16:23,085 --> 00:16:28,045 and reached the tomb first and stooping to look in he saw the linen cloths 302 00:16:28,045 --> 00:16:29,895 lying there, but he did not go in. 303 00:16:30,525 --> 00:16:33,495 Then Simon Peter came following him and went into the tomb. 304 00:16:33,885 --> 00:16:38,060 He saw the linen cloths lying there and the face cloth, which had been on Jesus' 305 00:16:38,060 --> 00:16:42,540 head not lying with the linen cloths, but folded up in a place by itself. 306 00:16:43,260 --> 00:16:47,040 Then the other disciple who had reached the tomb first also went in. 307 00:16:47,550 --> 00:16:51,960 And he saw and believed for as yet they did not understand the scripture 308 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:54,060 that he must rise from the dead. 309 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,590 So here, um, we get our first admissible testimony, really, 310 00:16:58,650 --> 00:17:00,090 um, the presence of two men. 311 00:17:00,930 --> 00:17:05,400 But if you still want to try and argue that this whole thing was fabricated, 312 00:17:05,490 --> 00:17:11,670 uh, by Jesus's disciples so that it would all kind of match up with what they, uh, 313 00:17:11,700 --> 00:17:16,964 thought Jesus had been predicticting, um, you've, you've, you've got a big problem. 314 00:17:17,175 --> 00:17:21,944 Um, because clearly resurrection hadn't even crossed their minds. 315 00:17:22,365 --> 00:17:26,085 Uh, it says, for as yet, they did not understand the scripture 316 00:17:26,355 --> 00:17:28,004 that he must rise from the dead. 317 00:17:28,845 --> 00:17:32,355 And even Mary Magdalene hadn't considered this a possibility either. 318 00:17:32,535 --> 00:17:36,135 She'd only said, uh, she'd only reported to Peter and John. 319 00:17:36,165 --> 00:17:39,435 They have taken the Lord out of the tomb and we don't know where they've laid him. 320 00:17:41,145 --> 00:17:42,795 Um, and I think this. 321 00:17:43,455 --> 00:17:48,405 Uh, this passage also shows us the importance of God's word, um, because 322 00:17:48,405 --> 00:17:52,725 it's God's word that helps us make sense of the things that we see and 323 00:17:52,730 --> 00:17:55,575 experience and walk through in life. 324 00:17:55,785 --> 00:17:59,565 It's, it's God's word that helps us to think rightly about him and about 325 00:17:59,565 --> 00:18:03,195 ourselves, um, and, and about life. 326 00:18:03,255 --> 00:18:06,915 And this is why I, I kind of take issue a little bit when people say 327 00:18:06,915 --> 00:18:10,455 things like, we don't need more theology, we need more experience. 328 00:18:11,415 --> 00:18:14,129 I'm like, If that's, if that's the case, how are you going 329 00:18:14,129 --> 00:18:16,679 to understand your experience? 330 00:18:17,070 --> 00:18:21,240 Um, we, we, we shouldn't be pitting the two things against each other. 331 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:30,389 We, we both need to experience God and we also need to understand 332 00:18:30,389 --> 00:18:32,190 him and think rightly about him. 333 00:18:32,669 --> 00:18:39,105 Uh, and so studying his word uh, is vitally important, um, to 334 00:18:39,105 --> 00:18:41,085 understand what, what we experience. 335 00:18:41,445 --> 00:18:44,805 Um, but we've talked a little bit about the fact of the resurrection. 336 00:18:44,865 --> 00:18:49,455 Um, but let's now think a bit about the meaning of it because we want 337 00:18:49,460 --> 00:18:52,875 to, we want to see the resurrection. 338 00:18:52,995 --> 00:18:57,135 Um, a little bit like how the wise men saw the star in the sky. 339 00:18:57,405 --> 00:19:00,976 It wasn't just, oh, I see a new star in the sky. 340 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,300 I see it and I believe it. 341 00:19:03,959 --> 00:19:08,070 Um, they, they saw in the sense that they, they perceived it. 342 00:19:08,070 --> 00:19:12,780 They, they understood the, the meaning and the significance of it. 343 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,620 Um, so what does the resurrection mean? 344 00:19:17,399 --> 00:19:18,899 What is its significance? 345 00:19:19,379 --> 00:19:24,330 Um, I think firstly, the resurrection was validation of Jesus' deity. 346 00:19:25,199 --> 00:19:27,659 In Romans one verse four, it tells us that. 347 00:19:28,890 --> 00:19:34,410 Jesus was declared to be the son of God in power according to the spirit of holiness 348 00:19:34,410 --> 00:19:36,720 by his resurrection from the dead. 349 00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:39,910 So it's a, it's a declaration of his deity. 350 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,040 Um, John actually alludes to this a little bit, I think in verse seven of our 351 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,330 passage today, where his language kind of contrasts Jesus' resurrection with 352 00:19:48,330 --> 00:19:50,010 the raising of Lazarus from the dead. 353 00:19:50,670 --> 00:19:55,970 Um, earlier in the gospel of John in chapter 11, um, it, it says of 354 00:19:56,390 --> 00:20:01,350 Lazarus that the man who would come out of the tomb, um, his hands and 355 00:20:01,350 --> 00:20:05,520 feet bound with linen strips and his face was wrapped with a cloth. 356 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,909 Jesus said to him, unbind him and let him go. 357 00:20:10,409 --> 00:20:13,770 Um, but Jesus didn't rise in the same way that Lazarus rose. 358 00:20:14,190 --> 00:20:18,360 He didn't stumble out of the tomb with his hands bound and his face covered. 359 00:20:18,510 --> 00:20:24,750 Um, he, he even neatly folded up um, the face cloth. 360 00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:28,440 And later in this passage we'll see that Jesus says to Mary, 361 00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:30,210 I am ascending to the Father. 362 00:20:30,510 --> 00:20:33,150 So he didn't rise like Lazarus to die again. 363 00:20:33,780 --> 00:20:38,580 And we see this all throughout scripture where Jesus is shown to be the better. 364 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:43,550 He's the better Moses, he's the better David, he's the better Lazarus. 365 00:20:45,015 --> 00:20:48,555 Um, the resurrection was also the authentication of 366 00:20:48,765 --> 00:20:50,115 the claims that Jesus made. 367 00:20:51,095 --> 00:20:53,985 And, and I wonder a bit what, what Peter and John might have said to 368 00:20:53,985 --> 00:20:58,455 each other on their way back at home as they tried to come to terms with 369 00:20:58,455 --> 00:21:00,015 what they'd seen and make sense of it. 370 00:21:00,915 --> 00:21:06,105 Um, you know, I wonder if they'd been like, Hey John, were you, were you there 371 00:21:06,105 --> 00:21:10,635 when Jesus said all that stuff about the son of man rising after three days? 372 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,400 Do you think like that's, do you think that's what we've, 373 00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:15,690 what we're seeing right now? 374 00:21:16,530 --> 00:21:22,950 Um, cuz Jesus had said in Mark eight, verse 31, and he began to teach them that 375 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:28,320 the son of man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief 376 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,330 priests and the scribes and be killed. 377 00:21:30,690 --> 00:21:32,490 And after three days rise again. 378 00:21:34,110 --> 00:21:38,100 Um, without the resurrection, Jesus' death would have been rendered 379 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,180 ineffective and insufficient. 380 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:47,010 Uh, in Romans four verse 25, it says that he, Jesus was delivered up for 381 00:21:47,010 --> 00:21:52,410 our trespasses, for our sins, and he was raised for our justification. 382 00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:58,685 So without the resurrection, we are not justified, before God. 383 00:21:59,370 --> 00:22:05,445 Um, in one Corinthians 15:17 it says this explicitly, and if Christ has 384 00:22:05,445 --> 00:22:10,665 not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. 385 00:22:11,835 --> 00:22:15,045 There is no forgiveness without the resurrection. 386 00:22:15,855 --> 00:22:21,255 Um, and, and there is no hope that we have outside of the resurrection. 387 00:22:22,605 --> 00:22:28,785 Um, but the resurrection also means that death has lost its sting and 388 00:22:28,785 --> 00:22:31,150 death does not have the final word. 389 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:38,430 In, in one Corinthians 15, verse 55 to 57 tells us, oh, death. 390 00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:39,870 Where is your victory? 391 00:22:40,410 --> 00:22:41,070 Oh, death. 392 00:22:41,130 --> 00:22:42,330 Where is your sting? 393 00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:47,910 The sting of death is sin and the power of sin is the law, but thanks 394 00:22:47,910 --> 00:22:52,370 be to God who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 395 00:22:54,190 --> 00:22:59,925 Um, and 1 Thessalonians four verses 13 to 14 tells us, but we do not want 396 00:22:59,925 --> 00:23:05,115 you to be uninformed brothers about those who are asleep, that you may not 397 00:23:05,115 --> 00:23:08,475 grieve as others do, who have no hope. 398 00:23:09,165 --> 00:23:12,135 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again. 399 00:23:12,255 --> 00:23:18,485 Even so through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. 400 00:23:19,365 --> 00:23:21,165 So death is not the end. 401 00:23:21,645 --> 00:23:23,745 Um, we will rise. 402 00:23:23,835 --> 00:23:25,245 We too will rise again. 403 00:23:25,995 --> 00:23:31,525 Um, and the resurrection also means that Jesus's ministry continues. 404 00:23:32,850 --> 00:23:35,610 I absolutely love this verse in Hebrews seven. 405 00:23:36,210 --> 00:23:41,370 Um, this is 24 to 25 it says, but he, that's Jesus, holds his priesthood 406 00:23:41,370 --> 00:23:44,580 permanently because he continues forever. 407 00:23:45,180 --> 00:23:51,510 Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost, those who draw near 408 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:56,550 to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them. 409 00:23:57,510 --> 00:24:02,940 So Jesus's resurrection means that Christ's ministry has not ended. 410 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,190 And if you are in Jesus, you had an intercessor yesterday, you 411 00:24:08,190 --> 00:24:12,330 have an intercessor today, and you will have an intercessor tomorrow. 412 00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:15,870 He always lives to make intercession for us. 413 00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:18,970 He's able to save us to the uttermost. 414 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:24,240 Um, now going back to our texts, um, we see that Peter and John, uh, go 415 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,720 back to their homes, but Mary stays and is weeping outside the tomb. 416 00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:32,850 Um, she, she goes into the tomb and she sees two angels there. 417 00:24:32,970 --> 00:24:35,070 And, uh, we'll pick up the passage again. 418 00:24:35,070 --> 00:24:35,970 Verse 13. 419 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:40,800 So, um, the angel said to her woman, why are you, why are you weeping? 420 00:24:41,340 --> 00:24:44,640 She said to them, they have taken away my Lord, and I do not 421 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,870 know where they have laid him. 422 00:24:45,930 --> 00:24:48,030 So still she's not thinking about resurrection. 423 00:24:48,540 --> 00:24:53,250 Verse 14, having said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing, but 424 00:24:53,250 --> 00:24:55,050 she did not know that it was Jesus. 425 00:24:55,550 --> 00:24:58,439 Jesus said to her Woman, why are you weeping? 426 00:24:58,919 --> 00:24:59,909 Whom are you seeking? 427 00:25:01,439 --> 00:25:04,919 Supposing him to be the gardener she said to him, sir, if you have carried 428 00:25:04,919 --> 00:25:08,250 him away, tell me where you have laid him and I will take him away. 429 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:13,909 Jesus said to her, Mary, she turned and said to him in Aramaic, 430 00:25:14,340 --> 00:25:16,419 Rabboni, which means teacher. 431 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,919 Jesus said to her, do not cling to me for I have not yet ascended to the Father. 432 00:25:22,399 --> 00:25:26,910 But go to my brothers and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and 433 00:25:26,910 --> 00:25:29,460 your Father, to my God and your God. 434 00:25:31,814 --> 00:25:37,185 Mary Magdalene's, uh, deeply troubled past didn't disqualify her from, 435 00:25:37,485 --> 00:25:41,054 from being the first commissioned messenger of the resurrection. 436 00:25:41,145 --> 00:25:41,804 It's incredible. 437 00:25:42,074 --> 00:25:44,925 She's the first person to see the risen Jesus. 438 00:25:45,014 --> 00:25:49,034 Um, and I, I imagine the disciples must have been beside themselves, 439 00:25:49,094 --> 00:25:53,054 uh, at this point when, when Mary came to bring them the news. 440 00:25:53,054 --> 00:25:55,125 It's like, Jesus, you're really not helping us here. 441 00:25:55,125 --> 00:25:59,685 If anybody, how is anybody gonna believe us uh, if you keep choosing to reveal 442 00:25:59,685 --> 00:26:05,325 yourself to women, Um, but what, what Jesus says to Mary is so beautiful. 443 00:26:05,565 --> 00:26:09,795 Uh, remember, these are the guys, um, his disciples were the ones, 444 00:26:10,065 --> 00:26:15,845 uh, who, who, well, most of them deserted, uh, and even denied Jesus. 445 00:26:16,545 --> 00:26:19,095 And yet he identifies himself with them. 446 00:26:19,545 --> 00:26:22,995 He, he says, uh, go to my brothers. 447 00:26:23,685 --> 00:26:29,030 Um, he, uh, he says, I'm ascending to my Father and your Father. 448 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,215 To my God and your God. 449 00:26:31,245 --> 00:26:33,135 Not just my God, but your God. 450 00:26:33,885 --> 00:26:36,555 He identifies himself with us. 451 00:26:37,725 --> 00:26:38,385 It's incredible. 452 00:26:38,534 --> 00:26:47,534 Um, John 20 verses 19 to 20, um, says on, on the evening of that day, the first day 453 00:26:47,534 --> 00:26:51,975 of the week, the doors being locked where the disciples were for fear of the Jews. 454 00:26:52,125 --> 00:26:56,565 Jesus came and stood among them and said, Peace be with you. 455 00:26:57,705 --> 00:27:01,185 When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. 456 00:27:02,415 --> 00:27:06,285 Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord, Jesus said to 457 00:27:06,285 --> 00:27:08,265 them again, peace be with you. 458 00:27:09,375 --> 00:27:14,835 So just imagine what's going on in the disciples' heads, um, they had 459 00:27:14,835 --> 00:27:17,235 left everything to follow this guy. 460 00:27:17,655 --> 00:27:22,935 Um, they'd, they'd then watched Jesus die, or, well, most of 461 00:27:22,935 --> 00:27:23,985 them deserted him, but they. 462 00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:30,180 You know, their hero died, the one they pinned all of their hopes on died. 463 00:27:30,270 --> 00:27:31,770 They're now scared for their lives. 464 00:27:31,770 --> 00:27:35,850 And they've, they've now got this, this woman claiming he's alive. 465 00:27:36,390 --> 00:27:42,240 Um, and they, they must have been racked with, with terror and doubt. 466 00:27:42,750 --> 00:27:47,070 You know, like, was everything that, that we'd seen just Crowd hysteria? 467 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,120 Was it just hype? 468 00:27:48,510 --> 00:27:49,620 Was it just smoke machines? 469 00:27:50,429 --> 00:27:53,879 But even with the doors locked and barricaded, Jesus can 470 00:27:53,879 --> 00:27:55,770 reach you wherever you are. 471 00:27:56,220 --> 00:27:59,760 Jesus can do things that no one else and nothing else can do. 472 00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:05,820 And the disciples, they, they didn't just need, uh, to read the latest 473 00:28:05,820 --> 00:28:10,770 self-help book or do the latest personality test or just find the 474 00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:12,570 road back to their true selves. 475 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,510 They needed to see the risen Jesus. 476 00:28:15,810 --> 00:28:19,875 Nothing else, nothing else can bring us hope. 477 00:28:20,775 --> 00:28:24,825 And Jesus comes to these weak, uh, these sinful, cowardly, and 478 00:28:24,830 --> 00:28:26,625 faithless men who had deserted him. 479 00:28:27,105 --> 00:28:31,575 And the words that he chooses to greet them with is just astonishing. 480 00:28:32,055 --> 00:28:33,825 He says, peace be with you. 481 00:28:34,725 --> 00:28:37,635 We, we cannot miss the significance of this. 482 00:28:37,785 --> 00:28:41,055 Um, the disciples must have been stunned because not only is this 483 00:28:41,055 --> 00:28:47,235 the man that, that, uh, had been crucified before their very eyes, 484 00:28:47,235 --> 00:28:52,155 but perhaps even more astonishingly, he claims to come with peace. 485 00:28:52,725 --> 00:28:58,635 How could there possibly have been anything but disappointment, anger, 486 00:28:58,695 --> 00:29:01,665 fury, and condemnation in Jesus' face? 487 00:29:02,565 --> 00:29:08,145 But what Jesus does next answers that very question cuz what does he give as 488 00:29:08,405 --> 00:29:13,215 a symbol or, or a sign or justification of, of, uh, of him coming in peace? 489 00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:18,900 He shows them his hands and his side and it, it is only then that we are 490 00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:23,190 told that the disciples were glad to see the Lord because you see their, 491 00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:28,620 their shame and their guilt actually rightfully told them that, but for some 492 00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:34,830 miracle, but for the blood of Jesus to stand before him, to stand before 493 00:29:35,130 --> 00:29:37,080 the king would be a terrible thing. 494 00:29:37,949 --> 00:29:42,810 Because they were, as are we deserving of nothing but punishment and wrath. 495 00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:50,070 Jesus is telling them that the resurrection is the receipt, the debt 496 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:52,469 that was owed has been paid in full. 497 00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:57,689 God's wrath for those who are in Christ Jesus has been, has 498 00:29:57,689 --> 00:30:01,139 been fully, uh, laid on Jesus. 499 00:30:01,145 --> 00:30:04,199 It's been fully spent on Jesus and there's nothing outstanding. 500 00:30:04,979 --> 00:30:10,260 Um, Paul tells us in Romans eight verse one, that there is now, there 501 00:30:10,260 --> 00:30:15,300 is, therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 502 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,610 Jesus then repeats the greeting, um, to make sure they've got it. 503 00:30:20,850 --> 00:30:22,530 He says it again, peace be with you. 504 00:30:23,070 --> 00:30:25,260 The resurrected Jesus brings peace. 505 00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:30,660 He's um, and he, he, he shows them his hands and his side. 506 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,550 Um, because that is how God demonstrates his love for us. 507 00:30:36,270 --> 00:30:41,820 Romans five verse eight says that, but God shows his love for us in that while 508 00:30:41,820 --> 00:30:45,540 we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 509 00:30:45,780 --> 00:30:48,030 This is how he demonstrates his love for us. 510 00:30:48,090 --> 00:30:53,070 He, he points the disciples to that demonstration of his love. 511 00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:54,600 He points them to the cross. 512 00:30:55,650 --> 00:30:59,470 And I wonder if at this point, uh, it occurred to any of the disciples that 513 00:30:59,470 --> 00:31:01,950 Jesus had already said this to them. 514 00:31:04,139 --> 00:31:08,070 At the last Supper, Jesus had said to his disciples, uh, in John 515 00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:10,860 14:27, peace I leave with you. 516 00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:15,899 My peace I give to you not as the world gives do I give to you? 517 00:31:16,409 --> 00:31:20,250 Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid. 518 00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:26,280 And this really begs the question, well, how does the world give? 519 00:31:26,340 --> 00:31:27,810 In what way does the world give? 520 00:31:28,729 --> 00:31:35,745 And I think at least one way that the world gives is that, um, or at least 521 00:31:35,745 --> 00:31:40,784 one way that, that, that we as humans give is that it's really much easier 522 00:31:40,784 --> 00:31:48,975 to, um, give extravagantly to someone who is maybe quite well off, um, who, 523 00:31:48,975 --> 00:31:51,314 you know, is very good at giving gifts. 524 00:31:51,435 --> 00:31:57,764 Uh, someone who, who just really gets you, um, and you know, and 525 00:31:57,764 --> 00:31:59,294 whose gifts you won't end up. 526 00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:04,230 Just taking to the charity shop the first week of January or trying to palm after 527 00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:06,270 someone else as a gift next Christmas. 528 00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:10,110 Um, but it's different with God, isn't it? 529 00:32:10,110 --> 00:32:17,400 Because all that I have to give to God is dust and yet he gives me life. 530 00:32:17,910 --> 00:32:24,030 All I have in my heart to give him is chaos and confusion, and he brings peace. 531 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,020 He gives me peace. 532 00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:34,110 This is true generosity, um, because I cannot pay back, um, what he's, what he's 533 00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:38,790 given, you know, if someone, um, it's just so easy, isn't it, to give to someone 534 00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:43,110 who, um, who, who you think probably has the ability to give you something 535 00:32:43,115 --> 00:32:44,700 really good at some point in the future. 536 00:32:45,630 --> 00:32:48,330 Um, it is not so with us. 537 00:32:48,390 --> 00:32:53,950 All I have to give him is myself and, and, and he gives me everything. 538 00:32:54,555 --> 00:32:55,725 Namely himself. 539 00:32:56,775 --> 00:33:01,605 Um, we, we have the tendency to, to be fascinated and get distracted 540 00:33:01,610 --> 00:33:06,915 by, uh, the peripheral benefits of the Christian life when the greatest 541 00:33:06,915 --> 00:33:10,365 treasure that God gives us is himself. 542 00:33:10,635 --> 00:33:17,470 And there really is no miracle greater than a sinner and a traitor standing 543 00:33:17,475 --> 00:33:22,140 before the risen king and hearing those words, peace be with you. 544 00:33:22,590 --> 00:33:23,820 My peace I give you. 545 00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:28,860 He is so generous that even though we can give him nothing, we can only give 546 00:33:28,860 --> 00:33:31,140 us, we can only give him ourselves. 547 00:33:31,230 --> 00:33:34,190 He gives us everything himself. 548 00:33:35,310 --> 00:33:37,440 So thank you very much for listening guys. 549 00:33:37,530 --> 00:33:39,150 And um, yeah. 550 00:33:39,180 --> 00:34:18,980 Well, that's it. 551 00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:04,100 Bye. 552 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:23,029 Welcome back. 553 00:37:23,370 --> 00:37:25,109 Uh, great talk Pete. 554 00:37:25,529 --> 00:37:26,640 Uh, great talk. 555 00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:30,960 I was grateful that his son didn't wake up, or maybe he did and he just paused 556 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,920 it in the middle and we never knew. 557 00:37:31,924 --> 00:37:36,180 Cause it was edited out but is great, great, great talk there from Pete. 558 00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:37,920 Always love, love when Pete talks. 559 00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:39,690 Just the simplicity of the gospel. 560 00:37:39,690 --> 00:37:42,150 He's great at bringing that, which is fantastic. 561 00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:43,830 So Dan. 562 00:37:45,015 --> 00:37:46,455 I'll ask the first question, bud. 563 00:37:47,355 --> 00:37:47,805 Go on then. 564 00:37:48,345 --> 00:37:49,035 Let's go for it. 565 00:37:49,365 --> 00:37:51,375 Uh, excuse me. 566 00:37:51,885 --> 00:37:54,165 Um, what stood out to you most about Pete's talk? 567 00:37:55,455 --> 00:37:58,465 I like you say, he, he's really clear, isn't he? 568 00:37:58,575 --> 00:38:03,465 He brings across the message in ways, um, when this is, I've heard 569 00:38:03,465 --> 00:38:07,335 this, the story so many times and read it and just different bits. 570 00:38:07,335 --> 00:38:13,395 He, he, he brought out and, um, uh, the big bit at the start was. 571 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,470 If this was a conspiracy, why use a woman's testimony as the first testimony? 572 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:20,670 I love it. 573 00:38:20,670 --> 00:38:25,110 I love that Jesus said, Mary Magdalene, I love you. 574 00:38:25,110 --> 00:38:27,000 You're gonna be the first person to see me. 575 00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:31,830 I love it that she was a woman in that culture in that time. 576 00:38:32,070 --> 00:38:33,450 That wasn't the done thing to do. 577 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:40,305 I love it that now when we are in an age of political correctness 578 00:38:40,365 --> 00:38:44,775 and making sure, you know, he was there, this was 2000 years ago. 579 00:38:44,865 --> 00:38:46,245 Been there, done that. 580 00:38:46,425 --> 00:38:53,415 Uh, I just, yeah, I love how, and I love that he said Mary, and 581 00:38:53,420 --> 00:38:54,495 that's when she knew it was him. 582 00:38:54,915 --> 00:39:00,465 When he calls us by name, when he speaks to us, that's just a beautiful thing. 583 00:39:01,155 --> 00:39:01,515 Yeah. 584 00:39:01,515 --> 00:39:03,615 Sounded like you now saying that, beautiful thing. 585 00:39:06,135 --> 00:39:07,445 My work here is complete. 586 00:39:07,450 --> 00:39:09,075 Ladies and gentlemen, I'm off. 587 00:39:11,985 --> 00:39:13,155 No, it's totally true. 588 00:39:13,155 --> 00:39:13,935 It's funny, isn't it? 589 00:39:13,935 --> 00:39:22,230 How, um, she, the, the conversation that Jesus has with Mary and 590 00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:23,790 Mary doesn't recognize Jesus. 591 00:39:23,970 --> 00:39:25,390 It's really intriguing to me. 592 00:39:25,390 --> 00:39:28,259 I read that and I go, how is that possible? 593 00:39:28,259 --> 00:39:28,680 Yeah. 594 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,970 Cause it's not like, think as is talking about it. 595 00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:31,500 Yeah. 596 00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:32,790 How did, how did she not know? 597 00:39:32,940 --> 00:39:37,230 And there's, when you read, uh, I think it's in Luke's gospel, he goes, He sort of 598 00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:39,030 appears to people on the road, doesn't he? 599 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,990 And they're talking for ages and they don't know, recognize it's Jesus either. 600 00:39:43,230 --> 00:39:46,830 And so it's not just Mary, it's the fellas as well who don't 601 00:39:46,835 --> 00:39:48,750 recognize the risen Jesus. 602 00:39:48,750 --> 00:39:55,890 And it's really intriguing to me how, how that actually works because 603 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,339 she would've met him, she talked to him, she was familiar with jesus. 604 00:40:00,339 --> 00:40:04,560 And yet she didn't recognize that this was the risen Jesus and he can. 605 00:40:05,010 --> 00:40:09,750 It's interesting, isn't it, that um, you look at that and go, goodness. 606 00:40:09,755 --> 00:40:13,470 Now how many times Jesus, have you been stood there? 607 00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:18,510 How many times have you been speaking to me and I've just not recognized it? 608 00:40:18,510 --> 00:40:18,870 Yeah. 609 00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:21,420 Do you know what I mean? 610 00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:22,640 You're just kind of like, yeah. 611 00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:24,210 It's a lot, right? 612 00:40:24,210 --> 00:40:26,819 I mean, there's, there's, I'm gonna have more than Mary. 613 00:40:26,879 --> 00:40:27,509 I know that. 614 00:40:28,609 --> 00:40:29,100 Yeah. 615 00:40:30,029 --> 00:40:31,109 And just have more than Mary. 616 00:40:31,350 --> 00:40:32,299 But it's interesting. 617 00:40:32,299 --> 00:40:37,680 And it's not until he says her name that she goes, aha. 618 00:40:38,129 --> 00:40:41,339 Now that's really interesting, isn't it? 619 00:40:41,490 --> 00:40:44,759 So, Yeah, I was fascinated by that. 620 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:48,839 Uh, Dan, I was, and I, I'd not really pulled that out, just as Pete was talking. 621 00:40:48,839 --> 00:40:50,790 He was like, yeah, this is a really interesting part of 622 00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:52,560 the conversation that she has. 623 00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:54,839 And I think for us, we can be like that, can't we? 624 00:40:54,839 --> 00:40:55,290 We can. 625 00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:57,810 Jesus can be talking to us and we just don't recognize him. 626 00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:03,870 But somehow when he calls our name, we, something just happened. 627 00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:08,085 And I guess this is my testimony as a Christian, it like, It wasn't until I 628 00:41:08,085 --> 00:41:12,645 felt him call my name that everything sort of fell into place and I went, 629 00:41:12,675 --> 00:41:15,795 ah, now I understand the risen Christ. 630 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,565 Yeah, Do you know what I mean? 631 00:41:17,915 --> 00:41:18,315 Amazing. 632 00:41:18,315 --> 00:41:18,375 Yeah. 633 00:41:18,675 --> 00:41:19,925 I'm the same. 634 00:41:19,940 --> 00:41:24,105 It wasn't, uh, I was brought up in a Christian family. 635 00:41:24,525 --> 00:41:29,775 Um, my dad is an evangelist who'd go around the, around the world. 636 00:41:30,315 --> 00:41:34,015 Um, speaking about Jesus, I'd heard the gospel lots of time. 637 00:41:34,035 --> 00:41:38,445 So I knew I knew the gospel, but it's when I knew it was for 638 00:41:38,445 --> 00:41:40,065 me, that was the difference. 639 00:41:40,065 --> 00:41:41,325 Like yeah. 640 00:41:41,805 --> 00:41:43,535 That's when he called your name. 641 00:41:43,905 --> 00:41:44,405 Yeah. 642 00:41:45,085 --> 00:41:45,365 Yeah. 643 00:41:46,275 --> 00:41:49,245 And you, I guess in some respects, like Mary had heard Jesus talk about 644 00:41:49,245 --> 00:41:52,095 all these things all, all that time, just like you'd heard your dad say 645 00:41:52,095 --> 00:41:53,295 the same message over and over again. 646 00:41:53,325 --> 00:41:56,745 I mean, I didn't grow up in the church, so I'd not, um, but for you, 647 00:41:56,745 --> 00:41:59,445 you'd heard the message over and over again, but when he called your name, 648 00:41:59,445 --> 00:42:00,855 that's when it was personal to you. 649 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,100 Yes. 650 00:42:02,310 --> 00:42:06,450 Yeah, that was that moment that that happened, uh, which is just fantastic. 651 00:42:06,540 --> 00:42:09,810 So, yeah. 652 00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:10,290 Love it. 653 00:42:10,290 --> 00:42:11,129 Love the topic. 654 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,089 Love the topic. 655 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:18,359 So one of the things, uh, that also intrigues me about this story, right, 656 00:42:18,509 --> 00:42:23,580 is the fact that Jesus has to show them his hands, uh, and his side. 657 00:42:23,669 --> 00:42:27,029 And the reason he does this, if you're not familiar with the story, is he 658 00:42:27,029 --> 00:42:28,759 was nailed to the cross in theory. 659 00:42:28,759 --> 00:42:31,240 The nails went through his hands. 660 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,750 And there was a spear thrust into his side. 661 00:42:34,169 --> 00:42:39,029 And so it's only when they saw those that they were like, okay. 662 00:42:39,209 --> 00:42:41,970 And was it at the end of the, the movie, I dunno if you remember that. 663 00:42:41,970 --> 00:42:43,080 It's been a while since I've seen it. 664 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,200 The, um, the passion of the Christ where at the end Yeah. 665 00:42:46,649 --> 00:42:50,910 The sort of the camera shows him standing up and you saw the light 666 00:42:51,149 --> 00:42:52,100 shining through the hand Yeah. 667 00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:52,220 Right. 668 00:42:52,709 --> 00:42:53,759 Yeah, yeah. 669 00:42:53,759 --> 00:42:54,990 Really quite intriguing. 670 00:42:55,169 --> 00:42:56,279 You know what this tells me? 671 00:42:57,270 --> 00:43:00,375 Um, This was a risen body. 672 00:43:00,735 --> 00:43:03,975 This was a risen, healed body, but it still had scars. 673 00:43:04,445 --> 00:43:10,005 And I think, um, I remember once being in, it sounds a bit odd, I suppose, 674 00:43:10,005 --> 00:43:13,905 but I remember once being in a church, uh, church meeting, and I remember I 675 00:43:13,905 --> 00:43:16,935 just felt, God tell me I needed to say something to somebody in the meeting. 676 00:43:16,940 --> 00:43:22,425 I, in church circles, we would say, he gave me a word for somebody and I, I 677 00:43:22,425 --> 00:43:25,155 said this to this, uh, beautiful lady. 678 00:43:25,155 --> 00:43:27,905 I said, listen, here's the thing. 679 00:43:29,015 --> 00:43:31,140 I know that God has healed you, right? 680 00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:36,360 Because I can sense I just, God has healed you of something and I, I appreciate 681 00:43:36,365 --> 00:43:40,290 that he's healed you of something, but there are scars that still remain 682 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,690 and we have to deal with the scars. 683 00:43:43,530 --> 00:43:47,190 Uh, and it was just a really, it was just really interesting revelation. 684 00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:51,930 I'd not really thought about it until that very point that actually as Christians, 685 00:43:51,930 --> 00:43:55,800 we can be healed of all kinds of things. 686 00:43:55,950 --> 00:43:57,360 I mean, even non-Christians can get healed. 687 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,710 I mean, you don't have to be a Christian to get healed, but, 688 00:43:59,190 --> 00:44:03,990 um, but sometimes the healing is good, but the scars still remain. 689 00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:04,770 Yeah. 690 00:44:05,220 --> 00:44:07,650 Do you know, what I mean and, and actually being aware of that 691 00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:08,940 I think is really important. 692 00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:09,990 Yeah. 693 00:44:11,790 --> 00:44:11,940 Yeah. 694 00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:12,210 Absolutely. 695 00:44:13,150 --> 00:44:15,270 So just throwing that, that's a free one. 696 00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:16,110 Just throwing that out there. 697 00:44:17,130 --> 00:44:17,760 Just throwing that out. 698 00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:27,705 Well, that, um, Pete goes on to talk about, um, the difference 699 00:44:27,705 --> 00:44:31,965 between Lazarus rising rom the dead and Jesus rising from the dead. 700 00:44:31,965 --> 00:44:33,675 Jesus didn't need any help. 701 00:44:33,675 --> 00:44:35,175 He came out of that too. 702 00:44:35,895 --> 00:44:38,175 Um, he didn't stumble out. 703 00:44:38,685 --> 00:44:45,405 Um, he didn't have someone come to him and have to take off those, um, death clothes, 704 00:44:45,405 --> 00:44:47,475 those, you know, the clothes of the tomb. 705 00:44:48,165 --> 00:44:50,085 He, he came out because he. 706 00:44:51,450 --> 00:44:54,930 He was done and he came out in his own power. 707 00:44:55,500 --> 00:45:04,650 Um, like Lazarus was raised by Jesus' word, but then still is told his 708 00:45:04,650 --> 00:45:06,530 friends say, oh, go and help him. 709 00:45:06,530 --> 00:45:06,930 Mm-hmm. 710 00:45:07,010 --> 00:45:08,850 go and take those bandages off his eyes. 711 00:45:08,850 --> 00:45:11,930 And um, he still needed that help. 712 00:45:12,350 --> 00:45:12,770 Mmh. 713 00:45:13,635 --> 00:45:17,415 Yeah, it's the, and the fact that Jesus took his time to fold his clothes, 714 00:45:17,415 --> 00:45:18,955 I just find that most extraordinary. 715 00:45:19,125 --> 00:45:21,975 It's, yeah, you, you sort of read what is going on. 716 00:45:21,975 --> 00:45:25,575 It's the most extraordinary event, and he takes the time to make 717 00:45:25,575 --> 00:45:27,015 his bed and fold his clothes. 718 00:45:27,405 --> 00:45:28,155 Take notes. 719 00:45:28,155 --> 00:45:30,255 My teenage children take notes. 720 00:45:32,335 --> 00:45:35,025 If Jesus can fold his clothes, then so can I. 721 00:45:35,505 --> 00:45:37,545 Uh, and, uh, it's something I have to learn. 722 00:45:37,845 --> 00:45:42,870 Nichola's has put here in the comments, um, Sometimes the change in people, 723 00:45:43,259 --> 00:45:48,120 um, be it good or bad, can make them unrecognizable which is actually, 724 00:45:48,509 --> 00:45:49,740 that's actually, I like that. 725 00:45:49,745 --> 00:45:50,160 I love that. 726 00:45:50,165 --> 00:45:51,299 Nicola very insightful. 727 00:45:51,299 --> 00:45:54,750 That actually, um, when there has been a significant change, people 728 00:45:54,750 --> 00:45:59,009 do become unrecognizable in a good way, hopefully, and not in a bad way. 729 00:45:59,610 --> 00:46:04,350 Um, and that's, that's, that's, that's quite nice actually, when 730 00:46:04,350 --> 00:46:05,590 you've met with the Risen Christ. 731 00:46:06,225 --> 00:46:07,754 Do you become unrecognizable? 732 00:46:07,834 --> 00:46:08,395 I like that. 733 00:46:08,395 --> 00:46:08,555 Yeah. 734 00:46:08,625 --> 00:46:09,115 Yeah. 735 00:46:09,265 --> 00:46:09,875 I like that. 736 00:46:09,879 --> 00:46:10,305 Good thought. 737 00:46:10,665 --> 00:46:11,245 Good thought. 738 00:46:12,405 --> 00:46:17,024 So I noted Pete's comment here, Dan. 739 00:46:17,265 --> 00:46:23,685 Um, we do not need the latest self-help book or personality test. 740 00:46:24,825 --> 00:46:28,185 Um, hope is found in seeing the risen Jesus. 741 00:46:29,444 --> 00:46:30,975 Really interesting comment, isn't it? 742 00:46:30,975 --> 00:46:38,174 Because there is this, There is this self-help kind of trap. 743 00:46:38,355 --> 00:46:42,975 I think for Christians it actually you, you fall into this trap of if I just do 744 00:46:42,975 --> 00:46:44,805 this a bit better, then I will be better. 745 00:46:44,805 --> 00:46:45,765 Live your best life. 746 00:46:45,794 --> 00:46:45,884 Yeah. 747 00:46:45,944 --> 00:46:47,444 I can live my best life Do you know what I mean? 748 00:46:47,654 --> 00:46:47,835 Yeah. 749 00:46:47,865 --> 00:46:52,465 And it sounds all very nice and warm and fuzzy and lovely and all a bit self-helpy. 750 00:46:52,665 --> 00:46:53,085 Do you know what I mean? 751 00:46:53,085 --> 00:46:54,734 I just need to have a positive mental attitude. 752 00:46:54,734 --> 00:46:55,544 I just need to do this. 753 00:46:55,544 --> 00:46:56,444 I just need to do that. 754 00:46:57,165 --> 00:47:03,360 Um, but the reality is, without Christ self-help is just that, it's just, 755 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,920 you're just relying on yourself, right? 756 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:04,980 Yeah. 757 00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:08,910 But it's only when you meet with the risen Christ that as Nicola says that 758 00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:11,070 maybe you find that unrecognizable change. 759 00:47:11,279 --> 00:47:12,390 Dunno, what's your thoughts on that? 760 00:47:12,860 --> 00:47:14,160 Yeah, yeah. 761 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,170 No, I, I like that. 762 00:47:16,170 --> 00:47:23,430 I, um, that he, yeah, I put that, that he's, he's our hope. 763 00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:24,060 Yes. 764 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:32,265 It's not to say, that reading books, learning from people 765 00:47:32,265 --> 00:47:34,005 isn't, we don't need that. 766 00:47:34,005 --> 00:47:34,635 Cause we do. 767 00:47:35,025 --> 00:47:40,395 But sometimes we can put that above that what, what God has done. 768 00:47:40,845 --> 00:47:41,085 Yeah. 769 00:47:41,090 --> 00:47:42,195 We can raise that higher. 770 00:47:42,195 --> 00:47:44,175 We can try and do it in our own strength. 771 00:47:44,655 --> 00:47:46,545 Um, and that's what other religions do. 772 00:47:46,545 --> 00:47:49,605 They try to, it's all about you. 773 00:47:49,635 --> 00:47:52,995 It's about what can I do to attain perfection? 774 00:47:53,835 --> 00:47:55,365 We can't attain perfection. 775 00:47:56,205 --> 00:47:59,730 We just got to have that hope, which is Jesus Christ. 776 00:48:00,060 --> 00:48:00,390 Yeah. 777 00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:03,150 And in him, yeah, in him we have that hope. 778 00:48:03,150 --> 00:48:09,480 And I always, um, I used to have a, like a church used to have 779 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,950 small, small, um, youth groups and some lads in my youth group. 780 00:48:14,370 --> 00:48:21,960 And, um, I'd talk about hope and say in the UK, if you're not in church 781 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,770 circles, hope can be a bit like a wish. 782 00:48:25,460 --> 00:48:27,120 We use it in the same way. 783 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,470 Ah, really wish that I'd get a bike for Christmas. 784 00:48:31,470 --> 00:48:33,690 Really hoped that I'd get a bike for Christmas. 785 00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:34,170 Yeah. 786 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,250 It's not that. 787 00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:37,920 Our hope is, is steadfast. 788 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,760 It's not a wish. 789 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,020 It's something that's happened. 790 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,930 It's something that Jesus is our Yeah. 791 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,070 Is that fixed? 792 00:48:44,070 --> 00:48:44,820 Steadfast. 793 00:48:46,070 --> 00:48:46,500 Steadfast, yeah. 794 00:48:46,620 --> 00:48:46,890 Yeah. 795 00:48:46,890 --> 00:48:51,170 In Hebrews where Pete brought out that he saves to the uttermost. 796 00:48:51,420 --> 00:48:51,660 Yeah. 797 00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:53,580 I love, I love the Bible cuz it has all the. 798 00:48:55,485 --> 00:49:00,315 The definite words, not the great words or the, you know, uttermost. 799 00:49:00,435 --> 00:49:00,944 Yes. 800 00:49:01,275 --> 00:49:04,815 Um, uh, hope a steadfast rock, you know? 801 00:49:05,174 --> 00:49:05,475 Yeah. 802 00:49:05,505 --> 00:49:05,805 Yeah. 803 00:49:06,225 --> 00:49:06,645 I love that. 804 00:49:07,125 --> 00:49:08,205 Yeah, absolutely. 805 00:49:08,205 --> 00:49:10,275 It's, um, no, it's great. 806 00:49:10,275 --> 00:49:11,265 It's wonderful, isn't it? 807 00:49:11,654 --> 00:49:13,335 And, and I think again, you're right. 808 00:49:14,265 --> 00:49:16,605 I think you're right that actually it's not bad to learn things. 809 00:49:16,605 --> 00:49:19,875 It's not bad to read the self-help books, but if they're in place 810 00:49:19,875 --> 00:49:23,115 of Christ, I always liken it to. 811 00:49:25,185 --> 00:49:29,485 You can spend all your life trying to become perfect to realize that you are 812 00:49:29,490 --> 00:49:32,865 not perfect or you can come to Christ. 813 00:49:32,895 --> 00:49:37,335 He makes you perfect, and then you can spend all your life working for him. 814 00:49:37,575 --> 00:49:40,065 And that's one way you are. 815 00:49:40,125 --> 00:49:43,935 You are trying to build something that Christ freely gives you. 816 00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:46,650 And then you, you work out of that. 817 00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,840 Now am I saying that I don't sin or I don't do anything wrong? 818 00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:49,590 No, not at all. 819 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,800 But that doesn't change the fact that God made me righteous. 820 00:49:52,860 --> 00:49:53,250 Right. 821 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,510 And, um, that, and, and all of that, just so I don't need to attain something 822 00:49:57,510 --> 00:50:03,870 I've been given, but because I've been given it, I can, uh, build God's kingdom. 823 00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:04,800 That's my plan. 824 00:50:04,830 --> 00:50:05,220 Right. 825 00:50:05,340 --> 00:50:07,170 You know, kingdom builders, that's what we are. 826 00:50:07,170 --> 00:50:08,910 So, um. 827 00:50:09,629 --> 00:50:10,140 Yeah. 828 00:50:10,529 --> 00:50:10,980 Brilliant. 829 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,060 Absolutely brilliant. 830 00:50:12,060 --> 00:50:15,490 So, uh, Matt's put in the comment, so just a reminder there are 831 00:50:15,509 --> 00:50:17,790 no midweek Prayer zoom groups. 832 00:50:17,939 --> 00:50:18,930 Uh, that's true. 833 00:50:18,930 --> 00:50:22,379 There are no Prayer groups this week, um, as we are meeting in person 834 00:50:22,379 --> 00:50:25,950 at Chester Cathedral, if you are around, uh, we're gonna go to the 835 00:50:25,950 --> 00:50:28,470 Carol Concert, um, as put on by Mr. 836 00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:32,160 Mark Mitchell, who coincidentally has just been on what's the story? 837 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,209 So if you're not subscribed to What's the Story podcast. 838 00:50:35,115 --> 00:50:40,725 Uh, let me tell you to head over to Crowd Church, www.crowd.church the website, or 839 00:50:40,725 --> 00:50:42,515 you can go to whatsthestorypodcast.com. 840 00:50:42,515 --> 00:50:43,965 Take you exactly the same place. 841 00:50:43,970 --> 00:50:44,475 I'm not gonna lie. 842 00:50:44,955 --> 00:50:49,635 Uh, uh, and you can listen to Mark Mitchell's podcast and you can 843 00:50:49,635 --> 00:50:53,866 listen to him tell his story about how he lost his car dealership when 844 00:50:53,871 --> 00:50:55,785 he decided not to open on Sundays. 845 00:50:56,235 --> 00:51:00,735 Uh, but how a very short time later, some really incredible things happened 846 00:51:00,740 --> 00:51:06,210 as a result and how he's got, you know, he's, he's thriving as a Christian 847 00:51:06,210 --> 00:51:07,529 entrepreneur, really phenomenal story. 848 00:51:07,529 --> 00:51:11,520 And actually a few years ago, had a brain hemorrhage, uh, and almost died. 849 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,089 So, um, real, real, incredible stuff. 850 00:51:15,089 --> 00:51:16,170 So, dig into that. 851 00:51:16,174 --> 00:51:16,950 That's on. 852 00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:17,850 What's the story. 853 00:51:17,850 --> 00:51:18,930 He's, um, made? 854 00:51:19,230 --> 00:51:23,759 He doesn't know it, but there was a, he had impact on my life 855 00:51:23,759 --> 00:51:26,009 because I bought a car from him. 856 00:51:27,690 --> 00:51:31,020 I took my then girlfriend with me to get the car. 857 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,689 He gave me some flowers, which I then gave on to, not that I'm trying to do 858 00:51:36,689 --> 00:51:39,240 things on cheap, but, lot of nice flowers. 859 00:51:40,009 --> 00:51:46,379 Um, but then we went out for our first date, which I say to was TGI Fridays. 860 00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:48,330 And um, Lisa says, was. 861 00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:50,370 Chiquitos. 862 00:51:51,029 --> 00:51:53,339 I think I'm right, but we, we never know. 863 00:51:53,339 --> 00:51:54,150 No, you're not Dan. 864 00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:56,700 Don't let just, what's wrong with you, man? 865 00:51:57,410 --> 00:51:58,650 Your wife is right. 866 00:51:58,650 --> 00:51:58,980 Dude. 867 00:51:58,980 --> 00:51:59,279 Come on 868 00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:03,509 Excellent. 869 00:52:03,509 --> 00:52:06,660 So you got your flowers and gave them to your now wife. 870 00:52:06,810 --> 00:52:10,620 So Mark Mitchell, you have just no idea of the impact that you've had. 871 00:52:11,279 --> 00:52:18,729 So yeah, Lisa's put in the comments. 872 00:52:18,729 --> 00:52:19,249 Oh, no. 873 00:52:19,249 --> 00:52:22,885 Uh, Lisa says, I assume Lisa, you are saying he's wrong not I'm wrong. 874 00:52:22,904 --> 00:52:23,984 Cause I'm saying that you are right. 875 00:52:23,984 --> 00:52:24,915 Just want to point that out. 876 00:52:24,915 --> 00:52:28,884 I know who's side I'm on, right In this conversation while we're live on air. 877 00:52:28,904 --> 00:52:31,515 Dan, when we're off, it'll be different, but when we're live, there's no way. 878 00:52:32,085 --> 00:52:34,605 Uh, so yeah, checkout what's the story with Mark Mitchell. 879 00:52:34,609 --> 00:52:38,565 We've also recently released an episode called The Need to Encourage Men. 880 00:52:38,569 --> 00:52:41,265 That was my conversation with the legendary Al Marshall. 881 00:52:41,265 --> 00:52:42,765 So they're both on what's the story? 882 00:52:42,765 --> 00:52:43,654 Do check them out. 883 00:52:44,205 --> 00:52:46,884 www.crowd.church or whatsthestorypodcast.com. 884 00:52:47,475 --> 00:52:51,855 Uh, Dan, next week, tell the good folks what's happening. 885 00:52:53,295 --> 00:53:00,135 Next week we have the resurrection again, but this is with John Harding. 886 00:53:00,555 --> 00:53:02,925 Um, so I'm, yeah, really interested. 887 00:53:02,925 --> 00:53:05,925 He'll pick out some different points of what we've spoken well 888 00:53:05,925 --> 00:53:09,720 about what Pete's spoken about today and what we've discussed. 889 00:53:10,095 --> 00:53:10,485 Yeah. 890 00:53:10,485 --> 00:53:14,055 And you've got Anna hosting with John Farrington, who will be 891 00:53:14,055 --> 00:53:15,215 great in Conversation Street. 892 00:53:15,215 --> 00:53:16,955 Looking forward to hearing what they've got to say. 893 00:53:17,325 --> 00:53:20,925 So do come and join us again next week. 894 00:53:21,135 --> 00:53:24,225 If you haven't done so already, make sure you like and subscribe 895 00:53:24,225 --> 00:53:25,905 to Crowd Church on YouTube. 896 00:53:25,905 --> 00:53:27,705 Just hit that little bell notification. 897 00:53:28,065 --> 00:53:32,385 Um, you will, uh, you'll, you'll see, uh, when we go live. 898 00:53:32,805 --> 00:53:35,235 Uh, so thanks everyone for joining us. 899 00:53:35,265 --> 00:53:37,395 Uh, we've got Caleb Mark watching from Kenya. 900 00:53:37,515 --> 00:53:37,875 Awesome. 901 00:53:37,875 --> 00:53:37,935 Yeah. 902 00:53:38,355 --> 00:53:39,255 Great to have you bud. 903 00:53:39,315 --> 00:53:41,505 Uh, it's great that you are here. 904 00:53:41,505 --> 00:53:42,435 Great that you are joining us. 905 00:53:43,005 --> 00:53:43,845 Um, so. 906 00:53:44,235 --> 00:53:47,505 That's it from, uh, I was gonna say we're gonna finish a few minutes 907 00:53:47,505 --> 00:53:49,335 earlier tonight at the request of Mr. 908 00:53:49,335 --> 00:53:54,045 Matt Crew, uh, actually, and also because, um, the England football 909 00:53:54,045 --> 00:53:56,385 is on basically, and we, we, you know, we all wanna go watch the game. 910 00:53:56,385 --> 00:53:59,965 So Isaac's also watching from Kenya, we've got a lot of people from Kenya watching. 911 00:54:00,015 --> 00:54:01,965 So, uh, great that you are joining us. 912 00:54:01,995 --> 00:54:03,645 Uh, all the comments are coming up now. 913 00:54:04,185 --> 00:54:06,435 Uh, so that's it from myself. 914 00:54:06,435 --> 00:54:07,245 That's it from Dan. 915 00:54:07,245 --> 00:54:11,235 Like I say, any questions, head over to our website, www.crowd.church 916 00:54:11,255 --> 00:54:12,215 where you can connect with us. 917 00:54:12,455 --> 00:54:15,335 You can subscribe to our newsletter, you can reach out to us on 918 00:54:15,335 --> 00:54:17,045 social media at Crowd Church. 919 00:54:17,345 --> 00:54:19,835 We would love to hear from you. 920 00:54:20,134 --> 00:54:21,665 Uh, you can send in Prayer requests. 921 00:54:21,665 --> 00:54:25,145 We do pray for you throughout the week, which is just great fun. 922 00:54:25,565 --> 00:54:26,735 Uh, and um, yeah. 923 00:54:26,805 --> 00:54:30,645 Loving the fact that, uh, international, got folks from Kenya, folks all over 924 00:54:30,645 --> 00:54:32,055 the world watching what's going on. 925 00:54:32,475 --> 00:54:34,424 Uh, and great that you are here. 926 00:54:34,424 --> 00:54:37,095 So Merry Christmas to you. 927 00:54:37,125 --> 00:54:40,605 We are in the season of Advent now, so, uh, we will be ramping 928 00:54:40,609 --> 00:54:43,904 up to Christmas for our Christmas service on the 18th next week. 929 00:54:43,904 --> 00:54:46,725 Like Dan said, we have got, um, John Harding. 930 00:54:46,730 --> 00:54:49,845 The week after that we have got a talk called Finding Peace in 931 00:54:49,845 --> 00:54:54,810 Difficult Times, carrying on Pete's revelation about peace earlier. 932 00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:56,640 Uh, so we're gonna get into that a little bit. 933 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,340 So wherever you are in the world, thank you so much for joining us. 934 00:54:59,340 --> 00:55:02,130 It's been an absolute treat and pleasure to be with you. 935 00:55:02,130 --> 00:55:03,460 Anything else from you Dan? 936 00:55:04,725 --> 00:55:07,935 I just wanted to finish with, um, I wrote it down here. 937 00:55:07,935 --> 00:55:09,075 He can reach us anywhere. 938 00:55:09,495 --> 00:55:14,685 Pete just briefly said, he said, um, they were in a locked room and Jesus 939 00:55:14,685 --> 00:55:18,424 was there, and if you think that you can't be reached, if you think you are 940 00:55:18,555 --> 00:55:22,365 in a place that God can't get to you. 941 00:55:23,225 --> 00:55:25,950 He can, even if it's your locked room. 942 00:55:26,190 --> 00:55:26,520 Yeah. 943 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:27,180 Brilliant. 944 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,710 That's a great final thought. 945 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,040 Maybe we should have a slot called the final thought slot. 946 00:55:32,130 --> 00:55:32,880 We'll think about that. 947 00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:34,140 Uh, no doubt. 948 00:55:34,140 --> 00:55:34,980 Matt Crew remind me. 949 00:55:35,250 --> 00:55:36,750 Um, so yes, goodnight all. 950 00:55:36,750 --> 00:55:37,980 Thank you so much for joining us. 951 00:55:37,980 --> 00:55:38,730 God bless you. 952 00:55:38,730 --> 00:55:39,840 We'll be back next week. 953 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,980 That's it from myself. 954 00:55:40,980 --> 00:55:41,530 That's it from Dan. 955 00:55:41,549 --> 00:55:43,259 The livestream is now gonna end. 956 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:49,410 uh, and we we're working on a slightly better outro type thing, so it doesn't 957 00:55:49,410 --> 00:55:52,680 end as abruptly as it's going to do right now, but, um, yeah, that's it. 958 00:55:52,740 --> 00:55:53,610 Uh, God bless you. 959 00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:54,480 See you next week. 960 00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:55,560 Bye for now, folks. 961 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:55,920 See you.