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Two days is 10 minutes of tennis with World Round Tennis Coach Australian and Puerto Rico

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Justin Yeo.

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We have a new series and today is going to be our first 9 1/2 minutes of brainstorming

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and we want to jump right in.

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So Justin, we want to talk about the future of tennis.

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Where do you want to start?

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Well, I think what came up about this is if we really look at the men's top 10, even

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the women's, but mostly the men's.

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If we look at the amount of variety and the amount of variation of style of players,

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even height and size, there's no, well, there are some common things, obviously, to make

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a top 10, top 20 player, but there's a lot of variation between the styles of players that

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we're seeing now.

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And we're going to see variation, obviously, mixed ranking wise, which we're seeing that

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as well.

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So it brings my attention that the future of tennis is for two people, the professionals,

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the coaches out there that are teaching whether it be the amateur player who wants to play

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like it is on the TV or he's teaching talented juniors.

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And even maybe not even talented.

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You just mentioned a word, talent a few seconds ago with me.

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And who knows what a talented junior is?

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I think a talented junior is someone who loves playing the game.

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He loves getting out the court and enjoying themselves.

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And then you can shape all those things if they have that.

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So that being said, if you do have some talented passionate tennis players like that, you

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should be thinking 10 to 20 years from now, what the game is now, what it's going to be

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evolved to for them.

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So that's probably the point I would say about future tennis because there's one part

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is the development and the professional part.

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And then second part of it would say we're future tennis is what we're seeing with the movement,

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spectators and people wanting to come out and play or watch the game, you're going to

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see a lot more variation of ranking.

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So we're going to see a top three like we had for 20 years where everyone idolized, you

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know, a fad or a jock of it, Nadal.

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We're going to see a lot of variation in and out, I think.

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And we talk about that and we say, okay, we want to target the future.

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And we say you and I had a conversation about my two and a half year old, just loves tennis,

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wants to play all the time.

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Well, I don't know the things that he's going to need when he's 20.

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I only know what the 20 year olds need now.

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I only know what the top 10 need now.

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So how do I know about strings and the new technologies?

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We're making a bit of a guess, aren't we to be able to work backwards and say, okay,

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we want to be a really great tennis player at 20 years old.

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Well, that's 17 and a half years from now.

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How do we know what the future looks like?

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How are we going to figure this out?

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That's great question because technology right now is blowing up everywhere else.

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Probably the only thing that maybe doesn't really blow up so much is tennis because we've

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got the graphite records that keep just getting tweaked here and there.

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What we've gotten seen lately is that the string tensions have dropped down dramatically

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since I was playing.

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And that's been an adjustment as well.

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So I think 10, 20 years from now, yeah, we could see some crazy technology things coming

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out.

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We are AI stuff that helps juniors on wet days still be training and practicing any more balls

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than we did.

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You know, so I don't know.

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That can be said as out of our reach.

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What I would say is in our reach is, excuse me, what we see in the game now will be what's

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going to be in 10 years from now, no doubt.

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So the variety taking the ball on the rise, footwork, endurance, maintenance, a lot of things

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like that.

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Well, we want to also want to think about the, I would say the off the court action.

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So the, say the mental health or the mental toughness, we're going to talk about interviews.

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You have to be able to handle those things.

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Does Facebook still exist or Instagram in 10, 15 years?

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Is that going to be a different thing?

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So we've got a lot of questions to be able to look into the future and say, how do we prepare

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for it?

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Because if we've got a five year old or a 10 year old, we both talked earlier and we said,

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okay, well, maybe 10 to 12 was that time where we really might consider taking it seriously

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as a player.

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But we also look at the social players.

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Okay, well, is there anything that changes there or is social tennis always the same?

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It's always just you show up on the weekend and you play and have fun.

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Are there technical advances or anything else that changes those?

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I think most of what we look at is the juniors in this setting, right?

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Yeah, I guess what are the points that I've made on my paper is data.

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And we're very data driven now and this technology is coming out all the time now.

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I was showing us more data trying to record your hitting balls and playing.

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We're seeing more and more stuff.

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Now, as we see that, it sort of finds its way down to the amateur level of an app or a phone

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or a camera or, and I think that's the kind of technology we're going to see more and

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more and more in the next five to the years of the data driven stuff in the lower level

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of tennis, like amateur tennis.

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I mean, you know, not many people talk about play side anymore, but play side still around.

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And it would have been something cool if they could just make it very mobile that you

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know, Sean and Justin get on court, record each other and go, okay, there's some things

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that I did there and things that I need to grow there and understand where I wasn't

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baseline and did I work my way forward and back how many kilometres did I cover for

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the match?

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You're describing Swing Vision and it already exists and it's an app on a phone.

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So we have some of those things and we've seen that at the amateur level to be able to

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help the amateur player, the social player that says, you know what?

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Yeah, I would love some data from my own.

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I don't need everything that the guy see on the IBM stat trackers and all that, but I

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would like some data, some information and I can do that with an app on my phone from

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perspective of trying to predict the future.

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I think that's what we're going to talk about more of over the next few weeks, which is,

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all right, what's coming next?

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What do we need to prepare for?

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Much of it is a guess.

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Much of it is, okay, well let's look at it.

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What it is now.

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And as you mentioned, there's a variety in the game.

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Everybody just loved it when there was a huge difference between center who's just a

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straightforward machine and Alcaraz, who is a highlight reel and drop shots everywhere.

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So, very different types, like you say, in the top 10 and you sent me a message earlier.

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Taylor Fritz is number four in the world.

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What is this, you know, what's going on?

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Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, great to see US tennis getting up there.

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There's a little punch out there for that one because it's a long time on the men's

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side, the US to be up this high.

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So that's awesome that he's up there.

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But you just, this is a great, great stormy session because you just described, I actually

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watched tennis a lot, played tennis a lot.

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You're actually on behind the scenes, learning all the technologies, all the different businesses,

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all the little services out there that I'm completely unaware of, which obviously shows

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because I said, "place-ite."

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But, and then that's when we bounce back and forth and help each other in a little plug

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to American Rackensports Association.

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This is what it's all going to be about.

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And so I think we can highlight future tennis with exactly what we're trying to accomplish

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as well.

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But on the other side of it, I'd like to get a punch out to everybody that's ever listened

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to us to start just giving us some engagement.

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What is it you would love to hear more of?

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There's not much between the two of us that we can't cover.

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And if there is something, we have a pretty wide network to reach out to and invite to

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calls and have someone join our calls.

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So I think that's where it's getting to the point for me for future tennis and the future

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of 10 minutes of tennis.

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Is it we'd like to see some engagement and we keep growing and we keep trying to help again?

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There we go.

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We're looking for the future of 10 minutes of tennis.

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Justin, I appreciate it.

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Maybe we need a second brainstorming session next week because we got a lot to cover here

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in the next few weeks.

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But thank you, sir.

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Our 10 minutes are up.

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I appreciate it.

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I will see you next week.

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Thanks so much.

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See you.

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