Welcome to More Human, More Kind, the podcast helping parents of LGBTQ kids move from fear to fierce allyship and feel less alone and more informed so you can protect what matters, raise brave kids, and spark collective change.
Speaker AI'm Heather Hester.
Speaker ALet's get started.
Speaker AForeign welcome to More Human, More Kind and to this very special Pride Month series.
Speaker A5 Lessons from Parenting with Pride.
Speaker AI'm Heather Hester, and I am so glad that you are here.
Speaker AOver the next five episodes, I'll be sharing five transformative lessons I've learned through writing Parenting with Pride, and more importantly, through living it, from loving, raising, and advocating for my LGBTQ children.
Speaker ALessons of progress, language unlearning, and the layered experience of visibility.
Speaker AWhether you're a parent, an ally, or someone who simply wants to better understand how to lead with compassion and clarity in a divided world, this series is for you.
Speaker ASo take a deep breath and let's begin.
Speaker AOne of the most powerful shifts I've experienced and witnessed, and so many parents I've worked with, is learning to choose curiosity over judgment.
Speaker AWhen your child comes out or begins expressing a part of their identity that feels unfamiliar, it's normal to feel confused or overwhelmed or even fearful.
Speaker ABut it is what we do in that moment, how we respond, that shapes everything.
Speaker AWhen Connor first came out as gay to Steve and me, I didn't have all the answers.
Speaker AIn fact, I had very, very few answers in those initial moments.
Speaker AI was only concerned for his safety because he shared this very important news with me over the phone in the middle of the night when I was 2000 miles away from him.
Speaker AMy next priority was making sure that he knew that we loved him and had his back, no matter what.
Speaker AThis allowed time for all of us to just take a breath and to pause, so that when Steve and I returned home, we were able to sit down and ask questions like, can you help us understand what this means for you?
Speaker ATell us more.
Speaker AThat moment changed our relationship.
Speaker AIt was the first time I realized that curiosity is not passive.
Speaker AIt.
Speaker AIt's an active choice.
Speaker AAnd it's one of the most loving things we can offer our children.
Speaker ARemember, too, that you are human and you will make mistakes.
Speaker AWe certainly made plenty of them, like asking so many questions that we now know fall into the category of things not to say or ask.
Speaker AAllow yourself grace, an action that aligns both with curiosity and being human.
Speaker AIf you would have asked me when my kids were little if I loved them unconditionally, my answer would have been an enthusiastic yes, probably with a side of attitude.
Speaker ABecause how Dare you think otherwise.
Speaker AHowever, when Connor came out, I realized there were a lot of conditions tangled in my love, expectations, assumptions, hopes.
Speaker AI didn't even know I was carrying that movie reel that I talk about.
Speaker AThis is where it comes in for me at the time, the realization and explosion happened in one big muffin.
Speaker ABut everyone experiences this differently.
Speaker AAllow yourself some grace here and take time to acknowledge the expectations, the subconscious assumptions, the hopes.
Speaker AIf you aren't ready to allow your movie reel to explode and to process the subsequent grief, try to at least allow space for the possibility of doing so.
Speaker ATrue, unconditional love means this.
Speaker AI don't have to understand everything right now, but I will stay with you.
Speaker AI have your back.
Speaker AI will keep asking, learning and growing because I love you.
Speaker ATake a moment with me right now and ask yourself where you may still be asking your child to prove or explain themselves before offering your full love.
Speaker AI know this is very personal and it requires vulnerability.
Speaker ATake a deep breath and know.
Speaker AI offer this reflection with love and kindness.
Speaker AWhat might shift if you chose presence over certainty?
Speaker AJudgment isn't always loud.
Speaker AIt's subtle, usually hidden in the corners of our subconscious.
Speaker AIt can sound like, are you sure this isn't a phase?
Speaker AOr that's just not how I was raised.
Speaker AOr but what will people think?
Speaker AEven well meaning questions can shut someone down if they are rooted in fear, not curiosity.
Speaker AIt is really important that you hear and understand that even well meaning questions can shut someone down if they're rooted in fear.
Speaker AMeaning the questions are rooted in fear and not in curiosity.
Speaker AI'm going to go out on a limb and propose that a decent percentage of people who make judgmental statements do not consider themselves to be inherently judgmental.
Speaker AThey may just be naturally inclined or we're taught to view everything through the lens of fear, not realizing the subtle and not so subtle messages of judgment that are the result.
Speaker AWorse, they likely do not see the through line from fear to judgment to growing distance in a relationship.
Speaker ACuriosity, on the other hand, invites us into relationship.
Speaker AIt says, tell me more, help me understand.
Speaker AAnd what does that mean for you?
Speaker AWhen we model curiosity, we teach our kids and ourselves that it's okay not to have all the answers.
Speaker AWe show them that growth is safe, that questions are welcome, and that love doesn't disappear when things get hard or unfamiliar.
Speaker AThis isn't just about parenting.
Speaker AThis is about creating spaces where people can be human.
Speaker ASo if there's one thing I want you to carry from this episode, it's this.
Speaker AJudgment closes.
Speaker ACuriosity opens.
Speaker AIf you are able Take a few minutes right now to reflect on the following questions.
Speaker AIf you are driving or otherwise unable, bookmark this spot to come Back to later.
Speaker A1.
Speaker AWhere in your parenting or allyship are you still holding on to judgment, either quietly or loudly?
Speaker A2.
Speaker AWhat's one belief you could hold more loosely?
Speaker AAnd three what might it feel like to lead with I don't know, but I want to understand.
Speaker AToday I am introducing a brand new segment to the podcast called Listener Queries.
Speaker AThis segment will be an ongoing part of every solo episode where I will answer questions from you, the listener.
Speaker AI'm starting with the most common questions I've heard over the years, but consider this your official invitation to email me with your most burning questions.
Speaker AToday's question is actually twofold what is Pride and why isn't there a straight Pride?
Speaker AI remember this being a big question and trend right after Connor came out in 2018 2019, and I have been told that it is coming back strong in certain online and social media circles.
Speaker ASo here is the answer.
Speaker APride isn't just a party or parade.
Speaker APride actually began as a protest and response to years of systemic oppression, discrimination and police brutality.
Speaker AIt marks the courage of all who were pivotal in and the 1969 Stonewall uprising, which is widely regarded as the catalyst for the modern LGBTQ rights movement.
Speaker ASome of the most influential were trans women of color like Marsha P.
Speaker AJohnson and Sylvia Rivera.
Speaker APride is now a celebration to honor the courage of those who fought back, the ones who were trailblazers and those who bravely stood alone in their authenticity.
Speaker APride is an acknowledgment and a time to honor those who lost their lives standing up for LGBTQ rights or standing strong in their orientation and or identity.
Speaker APride is a time to model what it looks like to speak your truth, to show up as who you are, and to advocate for the rights and lives of all LGBTQ people.
Speaker AThe answer to why isn't there a Straight Pride?
Speaker AIs simple because straight people have never been jailed, beaten or killed for their identity.
Speaker AThey've never needed to hide who they love to survive.
Speaker APride isn't about superiority.
Speaker AIt's about visibility, dignity, and the ongoing fight for equality.
Speaker AI have three takeaways from today's episode that I'd love for you to hang on to.
Speaker A1.
Speaker AAsk instead of assume.
Speaker AA simple tell me more can open a door that judgment slams shut.
Speaker A2.
Speaker AUnconditional love is a practice, not a feeling.
Speaker AIt requires presence, not perfection.
Speaker AAnd three Curiosity changes relationships and lives.
Speaker AIt's always available to you.
Speaker AThank you so much for joining me for today's reflection in this special Pride Month series, the five Lessons from Parenting with Pride.
Speaker AIf this episode resonated with you, I invite you to share it with a friend.
Speaker ARemember that curiosity is not passive, it is an active choice.
Speaker AThis is actually becoming one of my very favorite ways to encourage curiosity.
Speaker AIt is a way of doing and being in the world.
Speaker APride Month is a great time to find out what kind of ally you are.
Speaker ASo click on the link in the show notes to find out what your ally superpower is.
Speaker AUntil next time, keep showing up.
Speaker AStay curious.
Speaker ANever underestimate the power of your presence.
Speaker AAnd remember, you are not alone.
Speaker AHappy Pride Sa.