When shipping into a place like the UK, here's something to
Speaker:think about. It can pose a lot of problems if you're trying to ship directly
Speaker:into Amazon. So what I do is, this is the reason why it's
Speaker:actually great to expand internationally. And that is that if
Speaker:you're operating, let's say, in the USA and you want to open up your
Speaker:listing in the UK, the listing reviews transfer
Speaker:over to the UK listing as well. The other thing to think about
Speaker:when expanding into international territories is that, I'm
Speaker:Matthew Fraser, And this is Amazon Ecom
Speaker:Secrets. I'll be sharing with you the secrets that helped me go from
Speaker:millions in debt to an eight figure entrepreneur. If
Speaker:you're ready to escape the nine to five and live life on your terms,
Speaker:let me show you the way. Hey guys, welcome to Amazon Ecom
Speaker:Secrets. My name is Matthew Fraser, a $50 million online
Speaker:seller. And in today's episode, I'm gonna be talking about
Speaker:how to take your product to international markets and
Speaker:not necessarily via Amazon. It could be through
Speaker:Shopify as well if that's somewhere where you sell and
Speaker:this is going to be so freaking powerful. This
Speaker:episode, do not tune out if you are already selling
Speaker:in any particular marketplace and you're thinking about that you want
Speaker:to now go to other territories. Because
Speaker:guys, I've done this. I've already done this
Speaker:exact method and I've made mistakes and
Speaker:I've had successes and I'm going to share with you some
Speaker:of the tips and tricks along the way and how
Speaker:I was able to do that and what I would suggest to you. So
Speaker:let's just start off with You're in Amazon
Speaker:USA, for example, and you're now thinking about expanding your
Speaker:product into another territory. First of all, which
Speaker:one would you even pick? Do you go to UK? Do you go
Speaker:to Australia? Do you go to India? Yeah, there's
Speaker:a number of different places. And it's all
Speaker:going to depend on the type of product that
Speaker:you sell. Okay, now I sell a healthcare product and
Speaker:a healthcare product requires licensing, like
Speaker:medical licensing into different marketplaces. So
Speaker:that in itself poses barriers to entry. If
Speaker:you're selling a knife set, a kitchen knife
Speaker:set or a yoga mat set, not going to be so many
Speaker:barriers, right? You could just send that into any market. So let's pretend
Speaker:for a second that you've got a fairly generic type of product
Speaker:that's not going to have those types of barriers. But
Speaker:that said, you could have a children's product and the
Speaker:children's product may require certain government regulatory
Speaker:documents in order to get through the customs or something like
Speaker:that, right? So you're going to have to check on that. The
Speaker:first thing, though, is I would now sell into other
Speaker:local territories. So if you're in the USA, the first
Speaker:place I'm going to go to is probably Canada. Anything in North
Speaker:America. The next place would be Mexico. And
Speaker:once I dialed in that entire North American
Speaker:market, and when I say dialed in, I mean made it profitable,
Speaker:that was the first thing I would do before I even thought about going to the UK
Speaker:or Australia or something like that. And when I'm in that
Speaker:marketplace, I'm also going to be thinking about how else can
Speaker:I leverage the existing distribution model
Speaker:that I already have. Because this also comes
Speaker:back to the advertising and marketing. For
Speaker:example, If you are selling on Amazon in
Speaker:USA, I would also think about selling
Speaker:on Shopify in USA. I would also
Speaker:be thinking about selling on Walmart in USA and
Speaker:eBay in USA. And the reason why is that when
Speaker:people come across your product, now it may be that a friend's got
Speaker:the product or maybe you're doing Facebook ads for your product
Speaker:to drive traffic to your Shopify store. people are
Speaker:always going to default to the marketplace that
Speaker:they love. Okay. You might be someone who shops on
Speaker:Amazon, but I can tell you there's a range of people who don't. I
Speaker:was just talking to someone last night and I said I actually personally like shopping
Speaker:on eBay as well and I think that's because I've been using
Speaker:eBay for 20 years so I just go there and I can find most things
Speaker:there. I also like to buy sometimes some second hand things as well
Speaker:but that's a place that I like to shop. Now you'll find that
Speaker:other people like to shop on Walmart. So, what you want to do is
Speaker:take advantage of those platforms by being
Speaker:available on those platforms. So, you're maximizing
Speaker:the sales opportunity in that one territory. So,
Speaker:why we want to capitalize on the one territory is because
Speaker:you're already shipping into that one territory. by
Speaker:increasing your footprint within the territory. You
Speaker:can also increase the stock that's now going into that territory.
Speaker:And therefore, you can increase your orders, which will
Speaker:hopefully decrease the cost per unit, if
Speaker:that's what you can negotiate with your manufacturer who may
Speaker:be in China, right? So you're just really capitalizing on
Speaker:that whole ecosystem within that one marketplace. It's
Speaker:not much effort to then stretch it out over to Canada and
Speaker:then over to Mexico in that one North American marketplace.
Speaker:Where would you go after that? The next place I would
Speaker:go would be the next biggest Western-speaking
Speaker:country. right, is going to be UK. That's
Speaker:going to be a big, big marketplace. UK, then
Speaker:I would consider after that Australia, then after that I would consider maybe
Speaker:branching out into parts of Europe. Once you go down the European pathway,
Speaker:it can become very, very messy. Why
Speaker:is it messy? Because there's just so many different languages there. Now, I already
Speaker:spoke about you know, going into Mexico, obviously
Speaker:that's going to be a different language there as well. Maybe that's one you bypass, maybe
Speaker:it's not. There's different things you've got to think about when you're going into
Speaker:places that have a different language. First
Speaker:thing is going to be your product itself and
Speaker:the instructions, for example. If your product comes with an instruction
Speaker:manual, this will probably be something that you didn't think of. You're
Speaker:going to have to put down the language of
Speaker:what you're talking about in your instructions. Now, there's ways to get
Speaker:around that. One thing you could do is obviously you just do a print form and you
Speaker:have all the different languages. You can have all the different languages of the whole world if you
Speaker:wanted to in your one instruction manual. Another
Speaker:way you could do is do a QR code. So the QR code
Speaker:goes to a website which then has all of the information on there. That
Speaker:one is actually quite powerful because then you could potentially try
Speaker:and have something on that website that can capture the
Speaker:customer's information so you could then remarket to them later. That
Speaker:would be key. So when thinking about Europe, it can be a minefield
Speaker:of information because you've got obviously different
Speaker:languages. You've also got many different territories
Speaker:and licensing potentially. And so those
Speaker:types of things you've got to think about before you go into the marketplace. Because
Speaker:I mean, even if one example. Europe loves taxes.
Speaker:The tax system in Europe is, is, it's
Speaker:a fricking nightmare. One they brought up the other day, which I
Speaker:had to go and I say the other day, like maybe a year or two ago, it
Speaker:was about a tax now on packaging. So you now have
Speaker:to submit how much packaging you think
Speaker:you're going to be importing into a particular country like
Speaker:Germany or something, and then prepaid the tax on that. And
Speaker:that's not to mention any other types of import tax and
Speaker:duties that are applicable. When
Speaker:shipping into a place like the UK, here's something to think
Speaker:about. I don't ship directly into Amazon.
Speaker:I use a middleman. Okay. And a fulfillment center. So
Speaker:my goods just happened to be manufactured in Australia. They ship
Speaker:from here all the way into the UK. It goes through customs and
Speaker:what the customs love to just like Australia as well and imports you
Speaker:pay in Australia, you pay GST. In the UK,
Speaker:you pay a VAT, which is the same thing. It's a value added tax. 20%, mind
Speaker:you. It's a rort over there. And it can
Speaker:pose a lot of problems if you're trying to ship
Speaker:directly into Amazon. So what I
Speaker:do is I don't do that. I ship into a third party fulfillment
Speaker:center. They will help manage the importation of
Speaker:the goods. So if anything comes up, any
Speaker:issues, I can have them deal with customs or
Speaker:the shipping company. If it happens and you were sending it
Speaker:directly in, and I've tried this as well, if you're sending it directly into
Speaker:Amazon, there's no one in Amazon that you can call and
Speaker:say, hey, could you just call up FedEx or DHL and
Speaker:UK Customs and sort it out? They just don't do it. There's just
Speaker:no one to call. So what will end up happening is the issue doesn't
Speaker:get resolved and your stock could be then destroyed or
Speaker:sent back to the destination. And that is something that you want
Speaker:to avoid at all costs. So for me, it's
Speaker:worth the peace of mind and the efficiency of
Speaker:having it imported into the fulfillment center. And then from
Speaker:the fulfillment center, whatever I need to ship into Amazon, I ship it
Speaker:from within the territory. And by doing that
Speaker:as well, I can utilize Amazon's shipping fulfillment
Speaker:company and their processes and cost. Because
Speaker:when you deal with Amazon to go and collect the goods, it's so, so
Speaker:cheap. So overall, I end up winning. The other thing though too
Speaker:is because I'm also selling through Shopify in the UK,
Speaker:the Fulfillment Company ships those products for me.
Speaker:So every time I make a sale on Shopify, it goes through to the Fulfillment Company
Speaker:already in the UK and it's going to ship the goods for me there. So I'm
Speaker:actually utilizing two different fulfillment methods, FBA
Speaker:Amazon UK and my own Fulfillment Company in
Speaker:the UK as well. Why I do that across the
Speaker:world, not just in the UK, I split it, is I want to
Speaker:provide some risk mitigation. Because
Speaker:when you ship stuff into Amazon, and perhaps you might want
Speaker:to get that stock back out of Amazon for whatever reason, it has happened, it's
Speaker:a freaking nightmare. You can't just ring up Amazon and say, hey, should we
Speaker:have the goods? It's a real pain in the ass problem. So
Speaker:that's why I like to have the majority of my stock sitting in the fulfillment company
Speaker:and use that to drip feed into Amazon FBA if
Speaker:and when I need The
Speaker:other thing that a lot of people don't think about internationally is
Speaker:Currency and the currency conversions because in
Speaker:the UK you're going to be getting paid in pounds. You're gonna have to
Speaker:report on VAT and
Speaker:And obviously income tax And of course, that
Speaker:is going to pose another level of complexity because
Speaker:you're probably going to want to have a UK-based company. Now,
Speaker:when I set up my UK-based company many years ago now, I
Speaker:could do it quite easily, but now the government's changed the
Speaker:rules. And so what you need now is you need to have someone who's
Speaker:based in the UK who operates as a
Speaker:guarantor basically for your company. Now,
Speaker:you can't just ring up, you're like, I have a UK accountant.
Speaker:they don't provide that service. They are not going to be on the
Speaker:hook for your company not paying taxes, okay?
Speaker:And that's the ultimate reason why the UK government requires
Speaker:someone to be on the hook for the company
Speaker:in the UK. Now, it's only applicable if you're a foreign
Speaker:person like myself, so I don't live in the UK, but
Speaker:I'm the director of a UK company, right? The UK
Speaker:government can't come and arrest me if I don't pay taxes.
Speaker:I'm over here in Australia. But now
Speaker:they've got guarantors living in the UK, they can go
Speaker:knock on their door and say, hey, that guy that's living in Australia that
Speaker:owns that company that you said you're a guarantor for, he hasn't paid his taxes. So
Speaker:we're going to come and see you about it. And of course, no one wants to be on the hook
Speaker:for that. So it can be quite difficult now to
Speaker:get a UK company set up. Hey guys, I just want
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Speaker:Back to currency conversions, because all of my goods
Speaker:are manufactured in Australia, ultimately I
Speaker:have all of my income, my revenue,
Speaker:brought back and converted into Australian dollars. It might be
Speaker:because I'm going to buy the stock in Australian dollars. It might be different for
Speaker:you though because Most times,
Speaker:the Chinese manufacturer, if that's where your product is manufactured, is
Speaker:going to want to get paid in USD, in US
Speaker:dollars. And so if you're operating out of, let's say,
Speaker:the US, and you're getting paid in US dollars, maybe
Speaker:you don't want to convert it to Australian dollars. just so
Speaker:that you can then reconvert it back to US dollars to then pay
Speaker:the Chinese supplier. So you're going to have to figure out how much money
Speaker:perhaps you don't want to have converted to have it sort of pass through
Speaker:from Amazon. Maybe you have an OFX account that you
Speaker:keep US dollars in and then you pay from there to
Speaker:your Chinese manufacturer. It's going to work out. You
Speaker:have to work it out based on your own cash flow because if
Speaker:you're based in Australia, this is probably something that people don't talk about, If
Speaker:you're based in Australia, you really want, you have to ultimately
Speaker:have your income declared in Australia because
Speaker:where else are you going to spend the money, right? So this is
Speaker:going to be how it works. You're making all this money in international markets. You're
Speaker:going to bring the money eventually back to Australia.
Speaker:You're going to declare the income in Australia and you're going to pay tax
Speaker:in Australia. If
Speaker:you're someone who wants to grow their wealth, you may want to use the
Speaker:banking system, right? You want to go to the bank and say, hey, look, this is all the
Speaker:money that my company is making internationally. And
Speaker:the only way to prove that is through an Australian tax return,
Speaker:right? And obviously to get an Australian tax return, you have to declare income. And
Speaker:sure, you're going to be writing a whole bunch of things off, but
Speaker:you want to still have a good, healthy income in order to
Speaker:borrow money from the bank so that you can buy Houses and
Speaker:cars and you know, whatever it is. So there's really is
Speaker:no way of getting around paying tax I
Speaker:often make a joke to my account because I say Paul when
Speaker:am I gonna start opening up their account in the Bahamas? Surely
Speaker:now's the time because I'm sick of paying all this tax is
Speaker:like yeah, Matt You can definitely open up that account in Bahamas. But the
Speaker:problem is you're gonna have to move to the Bahamas Okay.
Speaker:Now obviously I want to do that So there's no other loophole that
Speaker:I know of where you can live in Australia and not pay tax. Ultimately,
Speaker:when the money comes back to Australia, because that's generally where you're going to spend it,
Speaker:you can do that. Now, just thinking about that, maybe you're
Speaker:someone who has a family or
Speaker:maybe you have a location like
Speaker:in Dubai, for example, where you spend half the year. If that's the
Speaker:case, then maybe you could set up a company in Dubai, and
Speaker:that is now your main company where you bring in all your income. Because
Speaker:I know Dubai has very favorable tax
Speaker:advantages for people who are not
Speaker:residents, essentially, or citizens. of
Speaker:Dubai. That is something that you should definitely check out. Maybe speak to your accountant about,
Speaker:hey, should I just go and live in Dubai for most of the year so I can pay less
Speaker:tax in Dubai? Maybe that's something for you. Now, as you know, I have
Speaker:a business that is across the globe. I'm literally, let
Speaker:me think, in USA, Canada, not
Speaker:Mexico, Australia, New Zealand,
Speaker:Japan is an interesting one. Let's talk about Japan in a second. and
Speaker:Europe and the UK that that's my
Speaker:terror and I have sold previously in Spain that
Speaker:was a disaster and I think the reason why that was the case having thinking
Speaker:about that was because the postal system in Spain
Speaker:was a freaking mess it was it was and
Speaker:so what was happening oh that's right I was shipping products out of the
Speaker:UK into Spain I was used I was using UK as my
Speaker:hub shipping into Spain. And
Speaker:the stock was just going missing all the time. And I remember seeing a
Speaker:video once that a customer had sent through to me and
Speaker:what had happened was the product was delivered and then someone just came around, just picked it
Speaker:up and walked off with it. And you know what, it just became way too
Speaker:much hassle for the theft and
Speaker:missing products that was going on in Spain. I said, I'll stuff it. We'll
Speaker:just, we'll move on, move on from Spain. I
Speaker:want to tell you one of the big things though that happened to me. years
Speaker:ago and this is when I was setting up in the UK and so
Speaker:I want you to avoid this mistake and that is that
Speaker:when I was selling on Amazon, I had to get category
Speaker:approval for my healthcare product
Speaker:to be able to sell on Amazon UK. And I
Speaker:thought, I'll just get this done myself. So you can go into Amazon, you can apply to get
Speaker:the category approval, which was, I think
Speaker:it was under medical products and filled
Speaker:out the paperwork, submitted it. And it came back within like 24 hours, like
Speaker:declined. I was like, oh, this is rubbish. So
Speaker:then I reapplied again. I thought I must've just done
Speaker:something wrong. Reapplied again, declined.
Speaker:I was like, come on, this can't be serious. I'm
Speaker:thinking I'm supplying all the correct paperwork. I then applied again
Speaker:and it was declined for the third time. And
Speaker:what I didn't know at the time though was that you can't actually
Speaker:apply more than three times. Once you've applied for three times and
Speaker:declined, that's it. You are out. I had to
Speaker:go through this freaking rigmarole Because I
Speaker:had already set up that UK account in
Speaker:a UK company, which I just set up. So
Speaker:now I can't use that account. So I've just
Speaker:spent all this money on setting up this UK company. I now have to get rid
Speaker:of that company and set up a whole new UK company to
Speaker:start a whole new Amazon account and then reapply for the
Speaker:medical category approval. But how
Speaker:I got around it then was I actually outsourced it. I went on to, I
Speaker:think it was Upwork or somewhere, and there were people there who can actually
Speaker:get these category approvals done for you. And
Speaker:I was like, far out, this is ridiculous. I paid her
Speaker:something like, I think it was like $2,000 or something to
Speaker:get this category approval sorted out. And she did, like within
Speaker:like 48 hours, it was done. And so my lesson
Speaker:is don't do the category approval yourself, just
Speaker:outsource it. And I know what you're going to say. It seems like a lot of money, like,
Speaker:Oh wow, it's gonna be like $2,000 to get that done. Look, maybe in different categories,
Speaker:I know it can be cheaper, like maybe $500. But I tell you what,
Speaker:for the heartache and pain that it caused at the time, because not only
Speaker:did I then have to spend all that money on getting the UK company redone.
Speaker:It was the lost revenue because now I was like weeks and weeks and
Speaker:weeks and weeks and weeks of dicking around trying to
Speaker:get this account sorted out and I was just missing out on sales. So
Speaker:don't do that. Don't try and be cheap like
Speaker:I was trying to do. But mind you, I didn't even know that person existed and
Speaker:I just thought I could do it myself. But now I'm going to say to you, don't
Speaker:be cheap. Spend the money, get it done, get it
Speaker:done fast and get your Amazon account live and making sales.
Speaker:ASAP because ultimately you're winning the end
Speaker:with that strategy. Now guys, this is the reason why it's
Speaker:actually great to expand internationally. I
Speaker:was talking to a client last night and he didn't know this information so
Speaker:I'm going to share it with you right now. And that is that if
Speaker:you're operating, let's say in the USA and you want to open up your listing
Speaker:in the UK, did you know that the
Speaker:listing reviews transfer over to
Speaker:the UK listing as well? And at this point, your
Speaker:mind should be just blowing up if you didn't know that. Because he
Speaker:thought, my client thought, that if he had to go to a new territory,
Speaker:he had to start from zero again. And as I always say,
Speaker:reviews equals money. So that way, you might
Speaker:have great sales in USA, you might have 3,000 reviews, you
Speaker:then open up in the UK, your listing is going to show 3,000 reviews.
Speaker:So straight away, people are going to trust that product even
Speaker:though you haven't been in that territory before, right? And that is
Speaker:very, very powerful. Now, I mentioned before about the fact that
Speaker:I'm in Japan. Let me tell you a secret. I
Speaker:don't do the sales in Japan. I
Speaker:outsource Japan. Now, what does that mean? What I've done
Speaker:is I'm responsible for shipping my product
Speaker:into Japan, but I have another company in Japan who
Speaker:helps import the product, so they deal with all the customs. They
Speaker:also deal with Amazon, the listing. the
Speaker:listing creation, the language
Speaker:conversion, because I know absolutely nothing except for
Speaker:when I used to do Kyokushin Karate.
Speaker:That's the only thing I know about Japan, apart from
Speaker:the fact it's also a beautiful country. But I don't know anything about selling products
Speaker:in Japan because it's so unique. So I've just
Speaker:given the whole product to someone in Japan who can essentially
Speaker:just take care of the whole thing for me. Now, of course, that
Speaker:does come with costs because they also need to make money as well.
Speaker:So my margin is reduced, but I don't have to deal with
Speaker:really anything. The other interesting thing, though, about
Speaker:shipping into Japan, which I hate, is
Speaker:the fact that you have to prepay your taxes on
Speaker:the sales. So think about this. In
Speaker:Australia, when you make a sale, you
Speaker:charge a GST. And at the end of the quarter, you
Speaker:then report the GST and pay the government whatever they're
Speaker:owed. In Japan, you have
Speaker:to nominate a value of what you're going to sell
Speaker:your products for. They then tell you, well,
Speaker:based on that, you're going to have to pay X amount of GST or
Speaker:tax, sales tax. And they're going
Speaker:to ask you to pre-pay that sales tax when
Speaker:you import the goods into Japan. So guys,
Speaker:maybe the opportunity for you when you're expanding into international markets
Speaker:is to actually outsource the sales and
Speaker:the local distribution to someone who's specialized in
Speaker:that particular area. And that's something that I've utilized now
Speaker:into Japan. The other thing to think about when expanding into international
Speaker:territories is that Amazon may require you
Speaker:to meet certain criteria. Now, for example, in
Speaker:India, I'm not in India. You
Speaker:have to have someone who's local in India in
Speaker:order to have an Amazon account and products live in
Speaker:India. Right? Unlike me being
Speaker:based in Australia, I can have an Amazon account live and active in
Speaker:USA, in Canada, in
Speaker:Mexico, without having to actually live or have someone
Speaker:locally based in those markets. So there is
Speaker:a lot of nuances with each territory that you're
Speaker:going to have to think about before you commit to
Speaker:going into certain marketplaces. So guys, I hope you found
Speaker:this really, really interesting into my insights into
Speaker:expanding across the globe. If you are someone who's
Speaker:an inventor, you're already selling on Amazon in a particular marketplace,
Speaker:you're a brand owner, and you're thinking about scaling your
Speaker:business across the world, that is my specialty. That
Speaker:is what I've done to now $50 million across
Speaker:the world. So if you want to tap into some of that expertise to
Speaker:help you save money, to do it the right way, the most
Speaker:efficient way, whether that be you want me to mentor you
Speaker:to do that or potentially you want me to actually
Speaker:just do it for you in some sort of a partnership distribution
Speaker:type model, then reach out to me. You'll find the details somewhere
Speaker:around this video. You can DM me, put a message there, or
Speaker:come into my community. I'd love to talk to you, and we
Speaker:can take things into the stratosphere. That would be awesome. I'd
Speaker:love to help you. Thanks for tuning into Amazon Ecom Secrets. If
Speaker:you enjoyed this episode, the best way to show your support is
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Speaker:Matthew Fraser on all social media platforms. Thanks