Hello, Hot Breath Averse.
Speaker AIt's been a while.
Speaker AWe're back.
Speaker AWelcome to Hot Breath with comedians Joel Byers and Yoshi.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BHello.
Speaker BHello.
Speaker AIt's been since December 5th since we've done one of these episodes, and we're going to let you know why and a lot more, but I'm a little nervous, so let's get into it.
Speaker AWelcome back, hot brethren and sister.
Speaker BWelcome back.
Speaker BWelcome back.
Speaker BWelcome back.
Speaker BWelcome back.
Speaker ASo it's.
Speaker AIt's been a while.
Speaker AI just had my first child.
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker ASo that was loud.
Speaker AI think that's a loud sound effect, but okay.
Speaker BIt's okay.
Speaker BWhat's it called?
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AWe're starting off so strong.
Speaker BFortuitous.
Speaker BWhat's the.
Speaker AOh, loudness.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BI was trying to connect loudness to what's going to happen in the future, but I forget what the word is.
Speaker BI'm.
Speaker BI'm getting old.
Speaker AYeah, that's.
Speaker AWe all are.
Speaker ABut we're back.
Speaker AHot brother and sister.
Speaker AAnd so we appreciate your patience through this, I guess paternity leave you can call it.
Speaker AIt's basically been two months since we've done an episode, and I have not slept since.
Speaker ASo this should be a nice delusional episode that we have a lot to get into today, which is very exciting.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah, we do.
Speaker BYou.
Speaker BFirst of all, how are you doing?
Speaker AI'm hanging in there.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BQuestion number one is how is Joel Byers?
Speaker BLet's make sure we get.
Speaker BGet to the meat of this real quick.
Speaker AYou know, I'm very grateful.
Speaker AI've gotta say.
Speaker AThe Hot Breath Averse was beyond supportive and kind.
Speaker AI got so many messages in our Facebook group.
Speaker AThere were several posts about celebrating the birth of my first child.
Speaker ASeveral people also sent gifts as well, so we really appreciate those.
Speaker AThose were promptly returned for gift cards, which we really appreciate.
Speaker BDaddy needs some groceries, baby.
Speaker AJust diapers.
Speaker AThat's just diapers and wipes.
Speaker AAnyone?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AEveryone's been beyond supportive and shown so much love, so I'm.
Speaker AI'm overwhelmed with gratitude in that sense.
Speaker AAnd then just also overwhelmed with sleep deprivation, which also helps with.
Speaker ALife is now just one big hallucination.
Speaker BOh, yeah, that's.
Speaker BThat's the beautiful part.
Speaker BYou just.
Speaker BYou're like, oh, I didn't know I was going to miss sleep.
Speaker BI'm just trying to stay alive myself.
Speaker AYeah, it's really like, I would recommend having a kid when you're ready to give up freedom and sleep.
Speaker BOh, I thought you were just going to stop at give up.
Speaker AThat's a good point.
Speaker AOh, that could be a bit.
Speaker AIf you just.
Speaker AIf I just build it up to when you're ready to give up and then just stop right there.
Speaker ABut build it up as if there are, like, there's more to that.
Speaker ABut it's really just.
Speaker AThat could be a joke.
Speaker AThat's funny.
Speaker AYeah, I have to try that because I have been already do have some, like, material which has been working really well, which is exciting.
Speaker AAnd I've been able to start reframing existing material through this new lens, which gives it a little more, like, gravity and makes it a little more grounded.
Speaker ASo instead of me talking about, like, my wife and I taking melatonin, now it's like, we used to party.
Speaker AHere is an example of that, like, the melatonin.
Speaker ASo it.
Speaker AIt kind of.
Speaker AIt's kind of matured my material in some ways as well.
Speaker AIn addition to having new jokes, it's also kind of revamped old material.
Speaker ASo that's a good.
Speaker AThat's a good thing for comics out there as well.
Speaker AMaybe if you want to have a kid just to try to, you know, make it in comedy.
Speaker BYeah, absolutely.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BKid number one for me was like, oh, we want to have a kid.
Speaker BAnd then kid number two and three, that was for more material.
Speaker BThat's why I had.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BMore material at this point.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABut it's been great overall.
Speaker AAnd seriously, the hot breath of verse was incredible through all of this.
Speaker AI mean, I can't even.
Speaker AI don't even want to start naming people because I don't want to leave anyone out, but it was, like, several.
Speaker ASeveral people who showed so much love and support during this.
Speaker ASo I really appreciate that and all your patience in us coming back basically two months later.
Speaker ASo it's.
Speaker AWe're back and ready to rock, baby.
Speaker BI love that.
Speaker BLove that.
Speaker BNot surprised at all, but you've been.
Speaker AMoving and shaking since.
Speaker AYou know.
Speaker AI know we both took.
Speaker ATook breaks, but you weren't out here resting on your laurels.
Speaker BOh, for sure, Ben.
Speaker BYeah, I got.
Speaker BJust got busy in terms of just, like, you know, I think New Year focus for me was to kind of, like, lean into things that I can control.
Speaker BSo, like, my family dynamic situation changed at the house, so I'm driving my kids more.
Speaker BI'm kind of.
Speaker BI'm responsible for taking all my kids to their school and picking them up.
Speaker BSo that means my mornings are busy, my afternoons are busy.
Speaker BSo now I've got that gap in between of, like, what to do and what to focus On.
Speaker BSo I've been leaning on really work, figuring out how to do more corporate comedy and just more stuff that I know is, like, in my wheelhouse, because I was in corporate for 22 years, and so I've been really excited about that.
Speaker BI started teaching a class at Helium Comedy Club, which is a new club here in.
Speaker BIn Atlanta.
Speaker AA new club in Atlanta, but probably the top comedy chain in the game, for sure.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AJust say, this is.
Speaker ANo, this isn't your, you know, rinky dink comedy course at the Chuckle Hut.
Speaker AThis is.
Speaker AYeah, probably the top comedy brand in the game.
Speaker AYou're getting to teach a class with now, so that's for sure.
Speaker BYeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker BAppreciate it.
Speaker AYeah, that's big.
Speaker AThat's big moves there.
Speaker BYeah, it's a good club.
Speaker BLike, you know, and this club is, like, solid.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's got a 400 seater and a 100 seater all in the same place.
Speaker BIt's, like, top notch when it comes to customer service.
Speaker BLike, it's like that experience when you go to a comedy club.
Speaker BSo just a great club overall, and then being able to see some, like, some dope comedians at this place as well has just been awesome.
Speaker BI saw Aries Spears there the couple weekends ago.
Speaker BMurdered.
Speaker BYou know, I mean, just.
Speaker BI'm just like, oh, it's kind of nice just to see, like, your icons and people that, you know, are killers and being able to go watch that at a club.
Speaker BThat's another advantage of taking a comedy class is if you go to your comedy class, especially at a club like this, you get to go watch these comedians on the low, low.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BSo that is a huge advantage just to work with them.
Speaker AYou worked with Don McMillan, too, so.
Speaker BYeah, dude.
Speaker BAnd like, Don McMillan.
Speaker BI mean, just.
Speaker BJust.
Speaker BLet's just pause for a second.
Speaker BHe is not only super gracious with his time, but, like, the way that he thinks about comedy in his engineering kind of way.
Speaker BHe was writing jokes right before his set that he was like, I might try this, I might not, but he was just doing it.
Speaker BAnd I loved seeing that, because I'm like, who still writes right beforehand?
Speaker BI thought you had to write, like, everything, like, way before, but he was literally working on jokes, like, right beforehand, and he tried them out there, like, that night, and they crushed.
Speaker BAnd I just love that confidence level of, like, thinking, oh, you could still, like, experiment out here.
Speaker BHe's already headlining the show.
Speaker BThe show is already sold out.
Speaker BHe's like, oh, let me just try something.
Speaker BSo that was Just fun to watch.
Speaker BBut yeah, that's been.
Speaker BMy focus is just like working on corporate stuff, teaching this class and really, you know, still being out there, just grinding.
Speaker BI'm still traveling, I'm still doing weekends when they're available.
Speaker BI'm still producing shows.
Speaker BSo yeah, the grind hasn't stopped.
Speaker BIt's just my situation.
Speaker BSo it's funny because I was, my plan was to get into more like start doing cruise ships, but I can't.
Speaker BSo just schedule wise, I'm just not able to not be around.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd so I was like, all right, how can I supplement what I would have made on cruise ship with something else?
Speaker BAnd so that's why I'm diving more into the corporate stuff.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ACruise ships are an acquired taste.
Speaker AI've been offered before.
Speaker AI just, the being on a boat stuck like that just gives me the heebie jeebies.
Speaker AAnd we have several friends that do a lot of cruise ships and they kill.
Speaker AJust.
Speaker AI.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker AI just, I haven't taken that leap.
Speaker AIt just hasn't been worth it for me.
Speaker AI was like, is this pay worth if pirates took over the boat?
Speaker AAnd I'm like, no, it's not.
Speaker BI, I love, I love that.
Speaker BThat's the thing that you fear.
Speaker AJack Sparrow took over this Carnival Cruise Line.
Speaker AWould it be worth the check?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYou're like, oh, me, I don't do well with pirates.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut that's, it's all personal preference though.
Speaker ABut you know, they can pay well depending on which cruises you book with and whatnot.
Speaker ABut it's all kind of what you envision your life to be.
Speaker AAnd that, that is interesting you brought up kind of like your focus this year.
Speaker ABecause my focus has definitely shifted as well.
Speaker AI mean, having.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHaving a kid is ridiculous in the best way, but it does kind of force you to like reprioritize and rethink and re.
Speaker AJust recalibrate what your priorities are.
Speaker ASo I definitely have been shifting my focus to be more local, to be more from home and even that.
Speaker AThat's already been kind of helping me in terms of like booking stuff.
Speaker AI've been booking country clubs.
Speaker AI've had, I have several testimonials from country clubs I've done in the past.
Speaker AYou've done them with me.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo I've been able to like reach out to country clubs and having a really good response and close rate with them.
Speaker AI mean, I've booked three so far and I've reached out to like not that many really.
Speaker ASo I think I Do think it helps to have testimonials and to kind of understand at this point after working with several country clubs, just kind of what they're looking for, what their price range is as well to kind of meet them where they are.
Speaker ABecause each country club is different.
Speaker ASo I try to kind of make sure I'm mindful of that to make sure I don't cut myself short, but also don't make it to where they don't want to respond because they're like, oh, why bother?
Speaker ASo, so been doing that.
Speaker AAnd also I have like an afternoon corporate gig this month which you know, is my, my bread and butter.
Speaker AI mean next week I have.
Speaker AOh, this week I have like a noon show at like a retirement community for Valentine's Day.
Speaker ASo I mean I'm just, I'm focused more on like local, local booking now.
Speaker ALike things that I can drive to and just be home that night or early the next day and things like that.
Speaker AJust kind of reprioritizing that way.
Speaker AAnd also you mentioning teaching.
Speaker AI'm excited to do more teaching this year.
Speaker AI started doing it more last year and I did more like workshop type things.
Speaker ABut I want to start getting a little more deeper into like six week classes to really help comics, specifically with clean comedy.
Speaker AReally helping comics develop a clean comedy or if they're not clean, just learning how to be clean.
Speaker ASo when a corporate event does reach out or a church does reach out to do 10 minutes, you know, that's something you can say yes to because I remember talking to a comic in Austin who told me he turned down a church gig, they want him to do 10 minutes and he said no because he couldn't do 10 minutes clean.
Speaker AAnd it was going to be 500 bucks and he had to say no to it because he didn't have 10 minutes clean.
Speaker ASo I'm really excited to just help comics with clean comedy this year.
Speaker ASo I'm definitely going to be doing a like a six week clean comedy course coming up that I'll link a wait list in the show notes for people that are interested in just learning more about how to join because I do want to keep it small just so everyone can get like one on one feedback and stuff like that.
Speaker ABut yeah, I'm, I'm excited to do more teaching this what year as well.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AYeah, I think in the past I just been focused on just like road, got to get on the road, gotta get on the road.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, I don't know if I want to be chasing the road as much.
Speaker AMaybe I'll just help other comics who do want to get on the road faster.
Speaker AI can just kind of help them while I'm also doing my local work as well.
Speaker ABut I will go on the road for the right price, of course.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI mean, it's just reprioritizing.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd I think that's really the key is, like, what are you willing to do for the work?
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BLike, what are you willing to do for the dream when your priorities change and when life is happening now?
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BLike, you know, it was easy to go up seven nights a week when you didn't have any kind of responsibility other than yourself.
Speaker BAnd you can rent and, you know, you could eat ramen all day and be good.
Speaker BNow that's just not how, you know, my wife just isn't a Robin kind of person.
Speaker BThat's putting it nicely.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BLike, I, I now have standards and these standards that I have, I don't want to go below those standards, at least for me.
Speaker BThat's just how I think of it.
Speaker BSo for me it's like, okay, how do I work to the standard that I'm want to live by?
Speaker BBut also, you know, it doesn't mean that I'm not grinding.
Speaker BI just gotta grind in a different way.
Speaker BNot every comedian has to be on the road, you know, for 24 weeks out of the year to be a comedian.
Speaker BYou know, I mean, like, there's so many different ways to do this.
Speaker BAnd so I think just reprioritizing what your focus is and then shifting your lifestyle to that, that's key, man.
Speaker BThat's just how it works.
Speaker AAnd being okay with that as well.
Speaker ALike not worrying about, oh, well, what are, what, what are certain comics gonna think or say if they see me doing X, Y and Z or if I'm not out seven nights a week, am I a real comedian?
Speaker AOr like all that self talk that no one's thinking, no one cares.
Speaker BNo one cares.
Speaker ANo one cares.
Speaker AThat's really something.
Speaker AYoshi definitely helped me with over my.
Speaker BTendencies to catastrophize is thinking about you.
Speaker ANo one cares.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BThe people that are thinking about you are the people at the house.
Speaker BThat's it.
Speaker AAnd as long as your, your heart's in the right place, then, you know, it's like we were talking before recording because I just announced this month's monthly contests and how I'm making it a clean comedy contest.
Speaker ASo now the, the challenge is you write a brand new 60 second clean set based on a theme and the entry fee is $25.
Speaker AAnd someone had commented like, oh, this costs $25.
Speaker AAnd you.
Speaker AWe were both just like, well, as long as your heart's in the right place, it's okay to like, if I was trying to scam comics, those type of comments would like, offend me or make me pause.
Speaker ABut I know where my heart is with this and I know it's very valuable and I know it's an investment for people that want to do this voluntary contest.
Speaker AYeah, I'm not making anyone.
Speaker AThe podcast is still free, the YouTube content is still free, all the education, all of that is still free.
Speaker AThis is just something you can do if you want.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AIt's just knowing where your heart is and where your priorities are.
Speaker ASo for anyone trying to figure out what they want to do this year, I think that's a great place to start.
Speaker AAnd leaning into what you can control, like you mentioned earlier, is very valuable.
Speaker BYeah, man, that's key.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker ASo, yeah, we appreciate the community for all your love and support through all this.
Speaker ASo we're hoping that us sharing our kind of focuses for this year will help you to determine yours.
Speaker AAnd it, I mean, it could be doing three open mics or I mean, you know, it's not like, oh, I want to get on the road or don't have to be, oh, I want to book X, Y and Z.
Speaker AIt could just be, oh, I just want to do, instead of doing one open mic a week, maybe I want to try to do three open mics a week this month and just kind of chipping away at the process that way, whatever level you're at.
Speaker AOr it could be, I want to get on stage.
Speaker AI know a lot of people listen to this and have not been on stage yet taking that leap.
Speaker ASo maybe this is the year you get on stage for the first time.
Speaker AIt's whatever you want it to be.
Speaker ABut just being okay, that it can evolve and it can change with you as a person, as we all evolve and change.
Speaker ASo big year.
Speaker BBig year.
Speaker ABig Year.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd I, I do want to bring up, speaking of big Year.
Speaker AAnd as we're talking about comedy, I heard Travis Barker, a well known musician, talking with Bert Kreischer.
Speaker AAnd Travis was saying how chameleons are the new rock stars.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BLet's go, baby.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWe were nerds before and now we're the rock stars.
Speaker AI see it.
Speaker AIt's so crazy.
Speaker AAnd you know, I saw a stat that comedy has tripled in size in the Past decade.
Speaker ALike, it is like.
Speaker ALike, almost like a.
Speaker AI think up to now it may be a billion dollar industry.
Speaker BIt's way past billion dollars.
Speaker AI know the last poll I saw was from, like, 2023, and it was at, like 900 million.
Speaker ASo, yeah, for.
Speaker AFor a live.
Speaker AFor live ticket sales is specifically.
Speaker AIs what I'm talking about, for sure.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo now more than ever is a great time to get into comedy wherever you can get in and fit in, really Rock stars, y'all.
Speaker AApparently.
Speaker BYeah, apparently people love us.
Speaker BPeople want to.
Speaker ANot.
Speaker AApparently.
Speaker AWe're all over super bowl ads and selling out arenas and.
Speaker BYeah, even comedians that you didn't even think did anything this past year.
Speaker BStill crushing at arenas.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BSebastian Monacowsko is still top 10 touring comedian.
Speaker BI'm gonna be honest.
Speaker BI knew he was, like, doing work, but I had no idea for.
Speaker BFor a top 10 that would.
Speaker BThat.
Speaker BThat floored me.
Speaker BI mean, I know Joe Coy and Matt Rife and, you know, the.
Speaker BThe undisputed heavyweight champion of touring right now, Mr.
Speaker BNate Bargazzi, who's just crushing it, right?
Speaker BCleanest comedian out there.
Speaker BCrushing it.
Speaker BGot super bowl ads.
Speaker BJust was on SNL this past year, like, just twice.
Speaker BJust crushing it all over the place.
Speaker BGot his own production company putting out new content.
Speaker BSo just love, like, that work that he's put in, you know, Also, he's been on the podcast, just giving out gems as well.
Speaker ANo big deal.
Speaker BNo big deal.
Speaker BJust, you know, just another regular comedian who's just been on the podcast.
Speaker AYeah, he sold over a million tickets last year, and it grossed over 80 million.
Speaker A$80 million.
Speaker BOh, dude, let's go.
Speaker A80 million.
Speaker AMr.
Speaker AAll.
Speaker AShucks himself.
Speaker BOh, shucks.
Speaker BOh, shucks.
Speaker BI love that, man.
Speaker BI.
Speaker BMakes me so happy.
Speaker AIt just shows the power of clean comedy where, you know, people can go see a Shane Gillis, but they're not going to.
Speaker AAnd he's doing fine.
Speaker AI mean, he's selling out arenas.
Speaker ABut I'm just saying, for Nate, you know, where normally Shane may sell, like two or three tickets, four tickets per group, you know, Nate's bringing the aunts, the uncles, the nieces, the nephews.
Speaker AIt's a family reunion when people.
Speaker APeople go to Nate shows.
Speaker ASo if you can be clean, you can just entertain that many more people.
Speaker A$80 million.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThat's some perspective right there.
Speaker BEight.
Speaker BZero.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd then, like, in the top ten, Matt Rife was number two.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AOver 50 million.
Speaker AFluffy, number three.
Speaker AOver 40 million.
Speaker ACat Williams.
Speaker ADude, almost 40 million off of 60 shows.
Speaker ALike, Cat is like, he just, he just keeps.
Speaker AHe's.
Speaker AHe's one of those OGs.
Speaker AIt's kind of like Schultz in a sense to where it's like they've been killing it for so long, you almost forget.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThat they're still killing it and they didn't go anywhere.
Speaker AYou know, it's like Kat Williams, 60 shows, 40 million.
Speaker AJust, you know, no big deal.
Speaker AIt's like heavenly day.
Speaker BMy heavenly day.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASebastian was number five.
Speaker ABert Kreischer was number six at almost 30 million.
Speaker ATrevor Noah, almost 30 million.
Speaker AAt number seven.
Speaker AJerry Seinfeld number eight at 28 million.
Speaker AAdam Sandler, 27 million off 26 shows.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AJoe Coy number 10 at 26 million off 83 shows.
Speaker AAdam Sandler just doing a cool mill per show.
Speaker AApparently there just cool mill.
Speaker ASo, yeah, we're saying all that to say, yeah, comedians are the new rock stars.
Speaker ASo now's a great time to be a comedian because that just.
Speaker AThat all trickles down.
Speaker ASo you may not sell hundreds or thousands or millions of tickets, but comedy is more popular than ever.
Speaker ASo comedians are in higher demand than.
Speaker AThan ever.
Speaker ASo it's like, you know, I got contacted to do comedy at this, like, retirement community Valentine's Day thing this week, you know, just because I think comedy is more top of mind.
Speaker AI'm performing at a, like a chamber of commerce gala event in March because they were searching, like, clean comedy in the area.
Speaker ASo I think just positioning yourself as a comedian this year more and being more intentional with that will just attract more opportunities because, yes, we're talking about the top 1.0.01% of comedians in this top 10 list.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut comedy is more top of mind than ever.
Speaker ASo people at every level are going to be looking for comedians.
Speaker AYou can go make a couple hundred bucks somewhere locally is.
Speaker AThat's not a bad day's work there.
Speaker AYou drive 20 minutes to make a couple hundred bucks.
Speaker ASo just keep that in mind for this year with whatever your focus is that, yeah, this is the year of opportunity for sure.
Speaker BBoom bow.
Speaker AAnd I think having that abundance mindset really helps with that as well that anything is possible now.
Speaker AAll the success these big comedians are having shows us that we can do it at whatever level we're currently at, whether just starting out or professionals like Yoshi and I, it or your Nate Bargazzi.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AThere's opportunities for all of us out there.
Speaker ASo just having that mindset, I think will help us all to make the most of this year.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker AOkay, cool.
Speaker AI'm glad we touched on that.
Speaker AThat just struck me that comedians are the new rock stars.
Speaker AAnd of course, they talked about the partying and all that as well.
Speaker AHe was talking with Bert about how much, you know, Burt parties and stuff, so that was a part of it as well.
Speaker ABut I really love what Nate is doing, just not only with his career, but also helping other comics, because, you know, we're all about comics helping comics.
Speaker AAnd Nate has built this whole brand of Nateland entertainment to where he's producing other comic specials, he's producing other comics podcasts.
Speaker AHe's really using his platform and influence as a way to elevate other comics as well, which is something that, you know, we try to do here.
Speaker AAnd to see him doing it at that level is very inspiring that we're kind of all in this together from a comedian standpoint.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHe just dropped Aaron Weber's new special on their YouTube channel.
Speaker AI know he's done.
Speaker AHe's produced several other specials, and I think they're about to be doing a movie as well.
Speaker AI mean, there's.
Speaker AThere's a lot cooking up over there at Nateland Entertainment, so I love it.
Speaker ALook for other ways this year to collaborate with other comics as well.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNate Holl at your boys.
Speaker AYeah, we out here.
Speaker AWe out here.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASo there was a question in the community I wanted to talk about as well, and we got a.
Speaker AThat was something I was very excited to see because I.
Speaker AI was very intentional about not really being on social media during this time as well.
Speaker AI was really trying to be present and be in the moment and not.
Speaker BYeah, you were keeping the social media for bathroom breaks.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AYou know, don't want to be out here dopam mining too much, as they call it, where you're just jumping from app to app to app.
Speaker AJust dopa mining.
Speaker ABut I did, like, scroll back through the Facebook group and just all.
Speaker AThere are a lot of great discussions happening, a lot of great questions being asked, and, yeah, opportunities being shared.
Speaker AAnd, of course, the daily writing contest was still going on.
Speaker AThanks to Bobby, Sutton and Evelyn for their support in that and others who will help sub in when they're unavailable.
Speaker ABut they really keep the.
Speaker AThe hot breath verse spinning in that direction, which I'm very grateful for.
Speaker ABut a really interesting question that I saw posted in here was from Eric Gallagos.
Speaker AI hope I'm pronouncing that right, Eric.
Speaker ABut his question was, other than going up a lot, what do you think is the number one thing Comics skip out on that could make them better.
Speaker AAnd he says emphasis on number one.
Speaker ASo as you percolate on that a little bit, there were some good ones in the comments.
Speaker AIf you'd like to hear those first before you say yours or if you just have one.
Speaker BI think other than going up, probably the biggest thing that I would say comedians don't spend enough time doing is rehearsing their set before they go on stage.
Speaker BI would say that's probably the thing that I, I notice because when they get on stage, when they're at the open mic, it feels like the first time they've ever said it or it feels like the first time it's come out of their mouth.
Speaker BI've been guilty of kind of doing this, of just kind of slacking and like, and just thinking, oh, this material is going to slap.
Speaker BIt's going to be great.
Speaker BThe way that it's in my head and every time that I have spent more time practicing and actually like saying the words out of my mouth, feeling what it feels like in my body, the joke has always been better.
Speaker BAnd I say that's probably the biggest thing is like because you're performing and you're getting on that stage, even if you're not in, there's not an audience in front of you.
Speaker BJust saying the words is really important to how it feels in your body to say the words.
Speaker BThat's probably the biggest thing.
Speaker BIt's just that rehearsing element of stand up that I think is probably the next big thing for me that I would advise comics to do outside of just getting up a lot is actually rehearsing the words.
Speaker BAnd then like, you know, comedy is about writing, editing, going on stage, editing, rewriting, going back on stage.
Speaker BThe rehearsing has to happen in all of those.
Speaker BAfter you write how say the words to the joke after you edit, say the new version of the, of the joke after you perform.
Speaker BTranscribe what you said when you were on the actually on stage.
Speaker BHow were they the same words that you actually practice kind of thing?
Speaker BBecause it's different when you get on stage in front of people.
Speaker BSo it's like there's a performance element to each one of those that I think comedians skip out on sometimes.
Speaker BThat would be my number one.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd rehearsing is also another form of writing and editing as well.
Speaker AI think even just rehearsing your jokes and that's something that's really valuable in like the monthly contest where you have to do a 60 second submission is you have to rehearse it a lot.
Speaker AYou have to record it several times to get it the right timing, get the right wording.
Speaker AAnd every time you rehearse a set in a joke, you start to find.
Speaker AYou'll find new punchlines to it or find ways to edit it down just to get to the point faster.
Speaker ASo I consider, yeah, rehearsing another form of writing and editing because it is.
Speaker AIt's a very productive way to just develop your material without being out on stage.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd I'll usually do that like on the way to shows as well, because that helps.
Speaker AWhile it's top of mind while I'm driving, it's just something to kind of pass the time and to also make the most of my time.
Speaker ALike if I'm going out and doing a show, I want to make sure I'm making the most of my time and part of that time is the commute.
Speaker ASo just making sure I'm treating all of that as part of the job.
Speaker ASo, boom.
Speaker AYeah, that's a really good one.
Speaker AThat's a really good one.
Speaker AI think that was in the comments that several people said that like, yeah, rehearsing your lines, rewriting, listening to your recordings and like rewriting them.
Speaker AThose are popular ones in.
Speaker AIn the comments.
Speaker AI think another one that came up was from Denise who said staying and watching other comics, that's an interesting one that nobody does anymore.
Speaker AI mean, when I started back in my day, there was a little more emphasis on hanging out in terms of watching other comics, thanking the host at the end of the show and things like that for having me.
Speaker ANow it is kind of just in and out.
Speaker AAnd you know, if you're going to do another show, I get that.
Speaker ABut if you're just kind of hanging out, there is a value to being there and absorbing other comics.
Speaker AAnd like Denise said, also if you're like watching the headliner as well.
Speaker ASo yeah, if it's.
Speaker ABut I would even hang out at the open mics.
Speaker ABut, you know, that's an old school mentality that maybe isn't even necessary anymore.
Speaker ASo for sure.
Speaker BI mean, I think it's still important because hosts and producers remember who stays.
Speaker AThey do, for sure.
Speaker BLike at the end of the day, they remember who stays.
Speaker BAnd if you're just there for the bucket spot and you're.
Speaker BIt's because it's almost like they're out there to help you support your comedy career.
Speaker BAnd if they like what you did on stage, let's say you go up and you showcased or let's say you had a bucket spot or whatever, and then you say nothing to them afterwards.
Speaker BThey're not able to sort of follow up on what they thought of your set or follow up on having that conversation with you after thanking you for being on the show.
Speaker BAnd I think there's a missing opportunity when it comes to networking that I think a lot of comedians skip out on.
Speaker BNetworking is big in comedy.
Speaker BThe majority of the work that I've gotten in this business is from, number one, other comedians.
Speaker A100%.
Speaker BLike, the homies are going to hook you up.
Speaker BThe homies are going to like it when you're like, oh, when you crush.
Speaker BThey're like, oh, I'd love to take you on the road.
Speaker BI'd love for you to feature for it.
Speaker BOr I'd love you to headline this spot that I have.
Speaker BThat's how the majority of comedy works.
Speaker BAnd it'll be that for a long time.
Speaker BYeah, like the rules of where a network is going to pluck you out of some open mic and then give you a TV show just doesn't apply anymore.
Speaker BIt's the people you know, it's the comedians that you've been on shows with.
Speaker BIt's the comedy clubs.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThat will be like, oh, you did great at our.
Speaker BAt our club.
Speaker BWe'd love to feature you at another comedy club that we've got somebody like a helium or the improvs or the comedy zones.
Speaker BComedians do the location and then move to another location over and over again.
Speaker BBut that's based on the work.
Speaker BAnd if you're not following up, you're not networking.
Speaker BYou could miss out on an opportunity.
Speaker AYeah, networking was a another good one in the list.
Speaker AIn the comments, Murad also added that going to fringe shows you're not on is another way.
Speaker AI mean, I know a booker here in Atlanta, Joe Pettis, runs some of the best shows in the region and has been doing for a long time.
Speaker AI know a big thing he does with booking his shows is like, go.
Speaker ALike he appreciates when comics go to his shows and like, support his shows and show face to him.
Speaker AAnd like, I know that's a big part of how he'll book comics is if he sees them at his other shows, even if they're not on them.
Speaker AAnother booker in Atlanta, Maurice Sims, will do that as well.
Speaker AYou go to like, his open mics and you're around there, or you go to his book shows and you're around there and you're top of mind.
Speaker AYou're more likely to get booked and that's Very common in all scenes.
Speaker ASo that's another good way to kind of get your foot in the door at certain places is just being around.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker AAnd being nice and being funny is a good.
Speaker AA good motto this year for sure.
Speaker ABut a good one that came up from Elliot Ryan was he actually listed eight of them.
Speaker AAnd Elliot, he's actually.
Speaker AHe's about to drop an album this year, which is very cool, but.
Speaker AAll right, say what?
Speaker BI said, all right, Elliot, I see you drop.
Speaker AYeah, he's up in Canada.
Speaker BNice.
Speaker ABut he had some, like, exercising, meditating, taking other classes, you know, like stand up.
Speaker ABut also improv and sketch and business.
Speaker AJust learning a bunch of different skill sets that can help all kind of funnel into your comedy.
Speaker ASo he had a lot of good ones as well, like that.
Speaker AHonestly, I think if I were to do one that we haven't talked about, and this was really interesting, actually just saw a clip of Wiz Khalifa, of all people, and he was talking about writer's block, and he was talking about how he never gets writer's block because he's always living his life.
Speaker AHe's always intentional about creating experiences, creating moments.
Speaker AAnd he said a lot of people that have writer's block just aren't doing that.
Speaker AThey aren't really like, kind of just watering that creative plant every day.
Speaker AAnd I think that's something a lot of comics, as we're talking about, you know, getting on stage being the number one thing people say.
Speaker AWhat else I think we can get in this routine of, okay, writing jokes, going open mic, performing, going home, and then just that on rinse and repeat, and you kind of get caught in that rhythm and don't remember to have a life outside of this grind, which, I mean, I had to remind myself of for, you know, several years.
Speaker AI was just head down, just gotta go, go, go, gotta go, gotta go, gotta go.
Speaker AAnd remembering to live and have things to pull from is super valuable.
Speaker ASo I think that's an.
Speaker AAnother one you could add to this list is just remembering to live life and be intentional and think.
Speaker ASometimes we feel like, oh, if we're not always working on the comedy specifically, then we're getting behind or missing out on something.
Speaker ABut I think it's super valuable to remember to live life, and that'll help you to have things to pull from.
Speaker AAnd it may not be immediate.
Speaker AIt could be you have an experience that a month later you start to find the humor in, or you start to find a connection to something else that happens in your life or to an existing joke.
Speaker AThings.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's a marathon.
Speaker AI know in the social media age, it's easy to think that you need to be famous yesterday, but for most.
Speaker AMost people, this is a marathon, and it just takes time.
Speaker ASo enjoy the process and just embrace that.
Speaker AThis most likely won't be an overnight thing.
Speaker ANot saying it won't.
Speaker AThere's people blowing up every day on social media, just being okay with the fact that, okay, this may take a little while, so I might as well go ahead and settle in, enjoy the process, make some friends, and just create what brings me joy and that I enjoy doing.
Speaker AHave fun.
Speaker AThat's a big one too, man.
Speaker ARemembering to have fun.
Speaker AGosh, I didn't have fun for years.
Speaker AI was just, how do I get on stage?
Speaker AHow do I get X, Y, and Z?
Speaker AWhy did so and so get X, Y, and Z and not me, even though I wasn't even pursuing that?
Speaker AWhy are they on that flyer?
Speaker AWhy am I not on that flyer of that booker?
Speaker AI never talked to, you know, things like that.
Speaker AI think that's a big one for this year.
Speaker AHave fun.
Speaker AI think that's throughout all of it.
Speaker AIt is work.
Speaker AComedy is hard.
Speaker AAll of that is true.
Speaker AIt's tedious.
Speaker AIt's an emotional roller coaster.
Speaker ASo just have fun through all of it.
Speaker AI think that's my.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AThat's actually probably my big takeaway on that one.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ARemember to have fun through all this.
Speaker BBoom.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI mean, I think at the end of the day, I've also just recognized, like, I'm not quitting.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BLike, I'm not giving up.
Speaker BSo it's like, all right, now that we've made that part clear.
Speaker AMm.
Speaker BLet's get into it.
Speaker BLike, let's find ways to make this the thing and make this the thing that supports the family.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BAnd so, yeah, that's what we're getting into.
Speaker BAnd that's.
Speaker BI enjoy knowing that this is my profession and this is the thing that I do regularly, and it's the thing that honestly brings me the most joy.
Speaker BNow, my kids bring me joy, but this is pretty up there.
Speaker BPretty.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThey don't understand callbacks, and that's, like, my jam, right?
Speaker BBut once they understand callbacks, then maybe.
Speaker BMaybe they might move up the list of more important.
Speaker ABut till then, teach them a power of threes.
Speaker ATeach them callbacks.
Speaker BBoys, I need you to end your sentences with the.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ASome hard consonants.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BHard consonants, boys.
Speaker AThat's hack, son.
Speaker AWhy are you doing crowd work?
Speaker AWe're at the dinner Table.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo what are you recording?
Speaker BWhat do you do for a living real quick?
Speaker BOh, nothing.
Speaker BYou don't do anything for.
Speaker BAll right, cool.
Speaker BSo you're unemployed.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker AThat's hilarious.
Speaker AThat's a good.
Speaker AThat's a good note.
Speaker ATo land the plane on family table.
Speaker BThat's so great.
Speaker AThat would be a funny sketch of.
Speaker BGod, yeah.
Speaker AEverything.
Speaker BComedians doing crowd work at.
Speaker AAt family dinner, at the dinner table.
Speaker AAnd they're like, clip that.
Speaker AOh, dude.
Speaker AI did a show this weekend locally.
Speaker AI won't name names, but the host was clearly just mining for clips at the beginning of the show.
Speaker ALike, he's opening the show.
Speaker AHe or she.
Speaker AI won't say names.
Speaker AThey're opening the.
Speaker AThey're opening the show.
Speaker AJust like, doing super pointed crowd work.
Speaker ANot even, like, welcome to the show.
Speaker AI'm so.
Speaker AAnd so we're here to have, like, all these little things we talk about when hosting just to set the tone and the environment and the energy for the show.
Speaker AIt was literally just like he was just going.
Speaker AOr she was going around clearly, like, trying to get clips as the opening set of this entire show.
Speaker AAnd it set, like, a weird tone for the show that now the audience feels like they're kind of a part of it.
Speaker AIt just.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AIt was interesting that.
Speaker AYeah, I had not.
Speaker AI'm sure that happens a good bit now probably more than ever, but that's something I hadn't really observed.
Speaker AI don't think of just seeing a host clearly mining for clips at the beginning of this show, and I'm just like, what are you.
Speaker AWhat are you doing?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABut anyway, I digress.
Speaker BYeah, have fun.
Speaker BDon't listen to us.
Speaker BWhat do we know?
Speaker AThis is a good one.
Speaker AThis is a good one to get back into.
Speaker AI'm glad we're ending on a positive note of have fun.
Speaker BHave fun.
Speaker AHave fun this year, kids.
Speaker AAnd we're gonna.
Speaker AWe're going to keep doing these podcasts.
Speaker AWe're going to get back them into them on a weekly basis.
Speaker AWe're not sure about the live streams yet.
Speaker AWe're going to figure that out.
Speaker AWe.
Speaker AWe can no longer do them at the time we did them last year, which I'm sure you can all understand.
Speaker ASo we're not sure about the live streams yet, but we are going to get back into the podcast routine.
Speaker AAnd of course, here to help you all in any way, we're going to just want to get the community as involved as possible this year.
Speaker AAnd all that we're doing and all that we're Trying to do.
Speaker ASo that's really it.
Speaker BYeah, man.
Speaker AWe'll be back next week.
Speaker AYou can, of course, join this month's contest.
Speaker AIf you're listening to this, the day of or the week of, you know, you can join this month's clean comedy contest.
Speaker AI'll link that in the show notes.
Speaker AAnd you can also join the wait list for my clean comedy course that I'll be doing later this month.
Speaker AI'm gonna start the first one, but if you want to join that wait list, I can send you more details there for sure.
Speaker AAnything from you, Yoshi, you want to leave the hot breath of verse with?
Speaker BYeah, I got some stuff coming up.
Speaker BI will be in the Boston Comedy Festival happening in April.
Speaker ASo if you're gonna be big deal.
Speaker BOut of this big deal, come holla at your boy.
Speaker BI'm super excited.
Speaker BBoston Comedy Festival has been on the bucket list.
Speaker AThat's a big one.
Speaker BComedians in town who have recommended it, but also, just like, people that I admire, they've been on it.
Speaker BPeople that I wanted my the homie.
Speaker BLearn more.
Speaker BGenasi want it.
Speaker BWhat's Scaramucci?
Speaker BThe comedian from Canada.
Speaker BToronto.
Speaker AThe Spanish.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker AOh, okay.
Speaker AI know you're talking about.
Speaker AI don't know her first name, but I know you're talking about super funny.
Speaker BI think she won it last year.
Speaker AIt's a big festival.
Speaker A$5,000 cash prize for sure.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ATop three comics get money.
Speaker AIt's a big one.
Speaker AA lot of industry there.
Speaker AIt's a big one.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSuper excited about that.
Speaker BSo that will be in April.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd then I've got shows coming up.
Speaker BCheck it out on yoshi.com.
Speaker Byeah, locally.
Speaker BHere.
Speaker AYay.
Speaker AWell, there you go.
Speaker AHot breath verse.
Speaker ARemember the big takeaway.
Speaker AHave fun this year.
Speaker AJoin us in the Facebook group if you want to ask more questions and join the daily writing contest and stuff, but otherwise, we'll be back next Monday.
Speaker AWe love you all.
Speaker BYeah, clip that.
Speaker BClip that part right there.
Speaker AClip it.
Speaker BBye.