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Speaker:In this clip, Luke Jensen tells the 1993 French Open story.
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Speaker:So tell us one thing always curious.
Speaker:Obviously, number one is a junior.
Speaker:The grand slam, we always hear the players say they want to be peaking by the finals.
Speaker:Let's go back, 93, that French Open experience.
Speaker:How does it start?
Speaker:How do you maintain the intensity?
Speaker:Now we're getting close.
Speaker:We might actually pull this off to keep it all level, to actually pull it off.
Speaker:Yeah, my answers get long.
Speaker:Just cut me off because I can get going.
Speaker:The reality was is that I'm two and a half years older than Murphy.
Speaker:I turned pro in '87 after two years at Southern Cal.
Speaker:Then Murphy joined the team in '88, '89, and then transferred to Georgia in '90.
Speaker:That's when the whole Jensen clan moved to Atlanta when Murphy transferred to Georgia.
Speaker:Atlanta is obviously the number one tennis city in the world.
Speaker:It has at every level, every facility.
Speaker:You can just stay here and just become a grand slam champion.
Speaker:Just by training out of the facilities here, the knowledge, the coaching out of here.
Speaker:So I turned pro in '87.
Speaker:So I had a couple of year head start working through the minor leagues of the game.
Speaker:And I teamed up with a guy from Australia, Laurie Warder, in '91 and '92.
Speaker:And we jumped in the top 10, two years straight.
Speaker:And my dream and Murphy's dream, we were always kind of,
Speaker:we always wanted to play doubles together at the pro level,
Speaker:since we were kids that we were going to be a doubles team.
Speaker:And then he turned pro after is in '90, after is junior year at Georgia.
Speaker:So he turned pro and started working his way up.
Speaker:And I would bounce down from time to time and play those smaller tournaments with him.
Speaker:But then go back up with the money was and play in '91, '92.
Speaker:With Laurie Warder, we made the World Championships a couple of years.
Speaker:And then it was Murphy got into the top 100.
Speaker:And I was top 10.
Speaker:And it's like, his ranking was high enough where we could slide into these Australian open, Sydney, San Jose.
Speaker:I mean, yeah, San Jose, all these tour level events.
Speaker:So Laurie went to play with another guy.
Speaker:They ended up winning the Australian.
Speaker:And Murphy and I kind of did well.
Speaker:We got to the, I think the semis are finals of Sydney.
Speaker:And then we had some first round losses, but we have semis of San Francisco and then a couple of early losses.
Speaker:And then the tournaments Murphy couldn't get in like Indian Wells.
Speaker:I'd final with an old college teammate, Scott Melville, or like Madrid.
Speaker:We got to the finals there.
Speaker:So it was just kind of fine where Murphy and I could get in the tournaments.
Speaker:But there was a point in the after Miami Miami open.
Speaker:We got into like a losing streak, Murphy and I.
Speaker:And it was eight weeks in a row, first round.
Speaker:And it was, it was one of those gut check things because I'd reached the quarters the year before
Speaker:in the French, John Welling, third round of Wimbledon.
Speaker:So I had a lot of points coming up.
Speaker:I think finals of Rome, the Italian open,
Speaker:want a smaller lead up event to the French. So I was top 10, but the gold standard as a pro is not
Speaker:the cash. That's a byproduct of your winning and hard work.
Speaker:It's the point you get to get you into the bigger tournaments, the point you win,
Speaker:that sustains you out there.
Speaker:And it's a 12 month deal.
Speaker:I mean, you've got to back that sucker up the next year.
Speaker:You're only as good as what you can defend.
Speaker:And every player knows what's coming up.
Speaker:What points are coming up? They know, especially now you could figure it out in the
Speaker:math in the old days because the rankings would come out every Monday, 52 weeks a year.
Speaker:Now it's live ranking. I know if I'm going up or going down, what will happen if I do go down.
Speaker:So it's a different pressure for the players now.
Speaker:But after we lost our eighth tournament in a row, first round.
Speaker:And this was that was at the German open in we're in Hamburg.
Speaker:Three sets and we lost matches every which way possible.
Speaker:Really bad. We had match points.
Speaker:Three sets, two sets every which way.
Speaker:And Murphy was really feeling it.
Speaker:You know, he was like, listen, you got all these points coming off.
Speaker:If you, you know, I don't know if this is going to work out, you know, it's like kind of another
Speaker:defining moment and a kind of a fork in the road like, what are we going to do?
Speaker:And I really had no doubt.
Speaker:This is what I wanted to do. It's what I always wanted to do.
Speaker:So I has the big brother and, you know, I said, listen, we're going to make it.
Speaker:You know, I believe in you and I really do believe he's six foot four left handed serves one
Speaker:thirty huge shot maker.
Speaker:But this was his, you know, wasn't even his first full year.
Speaker:He was like just six months on the real tour.
Speaker:That's where the real players are.
Speaker:You know, then the people that are playing pro tennis.
Speaker:That means people that are playing pro tennis, but they're not making any money.
Speaker:You know, professional means you are making money as a mechanic, as a drywaller.
Speaker:Like you're making a living.
Speaker:Same thing in pro tennis.
Speaker:If you're in the top 100 for the most part, you are at least breaking even
Speaker:in the higher you rank, you're making some more money.
Speaker:And that's a professional tennis player.
Speaker:And, um, and Murphy was just six months into that, where everyone's playing for their scratch.
Speaker:And they're cash.
Speaker:And it's, it's a different type of animal that can really survive that jungle.
Speaker:And so I said, you know, I believe in you, I don't care if we dropped to a thousand in the world
Speaker:and we're playing in some, you know, future satellite in South America or South Africa.
Speaker:We're going to do this.
Speaker:We're going to figure this out and we're going to get it.
Speaker:And it was like, that was the confidence or that was like the reassurance.
Speaker:Maybe he needed because the next week, you know, we got in the dog fight with the team that
Speaker:it was the number one seed at the Italian Open, Werenrome, playing at night.
Speaker:It's an unbelievable experience playing in Rome at night.
Speaker:The fans are whistling and throwing coins at you.
Speaker:And it's, it's just a, it's crazy.
Speaker:And it was Mark, uh, Mark Rossay and Yacoblastic did one of the French
Speaker:the year before they played Davis Cup for Switzerland.
Speaker:We'd beaten them the US in the, in the US Davis Cup win in 91.
Speaker:Now I was on that team as a practice partner.
Speaker:It was Mac and Rose Samperous, Agassi Courier Chang.
Speaker:And so I knew them very well.
Speaker:Murphy Murphy had never played against them or anything like that.
Speaker:We win that in three sets.
Speaker:And it got a little chippy, you know, and, you know, we, we always played with a lot of intensity.
Speaker:And we tried it all the time like make it a brawl.
Speaker:And high fives, chest bumps and things like that.
Speaker:And traditional tennis, they didn't like that.
Speaker:And so, you know, they'd take a couple of shots and, you know, that's where we wanted.
Speaker:We wanted that kind of match.
Speaker:So we win that, get to the semis and then get to the next week,
Speaker:which is blowing itally, which is a warm-up tournament.
Speaker:And we get to the finals.
Speaker:So great. We're on kind of a roll and we get to, uh, to Paris on that, uh, Monday.
Speaker:And, uh, and Murphy's, I'm sorry, take that back.
Speaker:So they always finish the, the week of the Saturday before the major start is when those warm-up tournament
Speaker:finishes. So we got like a Sunday practice and, um, back then, the day before was really quiet.
Speaker:No one was really there. Players were kind of done.
Speaker:We were getting like the last, late afternoon practice.
Speaker:And I sat with them and I said, you know, Murphy, we could win this tournament.
Speaker:And he's like, what do you, he'd never been to Paris before?
Speaker:What, what are you talking about?
Speaker:We, uh, no, seriously, like, we could win this tournament.
Speaker:And, uh, he just thought we were nuts.
Speaker:I said, we just have too many weapons.
Speaker:We just go out there in every single match.
Speaker:And so it really started.
Speaker:We were unseated, unproven.
Speaker:There wasn't anything to say that like we, we're really like a proven team at all.
Speaker:We had once a match and had a nice little run.
Speaker:But I always feel like when you, in this sport,
Speaker:specifically, the players, I, I don't think they understand it enough.
Speaker:Um, they talk about, I need confidence.
Speaker:I need to play with confidence.
Speaker:You don't have confidence.
Speaker:You can't play in that rare air.
Speaker:You're done.
Speaker:Like you, you're confident or you're not.
Speaker:And you better be confident when you're getting your teeth kicked in,
Speaker:you're down to set in a break or you're in the fifth set and you got nothing left in the tank.
Speaker:You better have something.
Speaker:And that's a choice.
Speaker:Confidence is choice.
Speaker:And I tell kids that all the time and they have a tough time understanding that.
Speaker:Just gives you when a bunch of matches doesn't mean you're confident.
Speaker:That means you've got some momentum.
Speaker:And that's exactly what we had.
Speaker:We had some momentum going into the French open.
Speaker:Um, because the last three weeks, uh, I'm sorry, two weeks at the Italian
Speaker:and then this warm up tournament in Bologna.
Speaker:And then really how it started is that we, we really competed well as a team.
Speaker:And we win the first, uh, match 12, 10 and a third.
Speaker:We're down match points.
Speaker:I hit a return.
Speaker:I break a string.
Speaker:They go back to me.
Speaker:I make a decision.
Speaker:Another defining moment.
Speaker:Do you love it or do you rip it?
Speaker:I rip it.
Speaker:We end up winning.
Speaker:You know, that ball could have just still been flying today.
Speaker:But, you know, the tennis gods blessed us and it went in.
Speaker:We win that match.
Speaker:Next round, we win 12, 10 and the third.
Speaker:Um, the, uh, down match points win that one.
Speaker:So now we're in the third round.
Speaker:And, um, we're down five, three and the third.
Speaker:And Murphy and I are fighting with each other.
Speaker:We used to compete really hard against our opponents.
Speaker:But we used to compete really hard with each other.
Speaker:And throughout the match, we would be going at each other like siblings do.
Speaker:And so fortunately, our mom was there who's the boss, the agent and everything.
Speaker:And she would just happen to be at the tournament.
Speaker:And during this ring, the like, I'm in the players lounge.
Speaker:And I'm nowhere close.
Speaker:I have no idea where Murphy is.
Speaker:I'm honestly on the phone with United Airlines.
Speaker:And I'm looking at my watch and I know this rain delay is going to be over in like 40 minutes.
Speaker:They have covers on the court.
Speaker:They're going to pull the covers back.
Speaker:We're going to lose one game and I can be on a 730 flight back to the United States.
Speaker:I can be fishing tomorrow for salmon and Lake Michigan.
Speaker:And I can, you know, I'll be, you know, getting ready for Wimbledon.
Speaker:All of a sudden, there's a pull on my, on the back of my shirt.
Speaker:And there's Murphy and it's my mom holding both of us like Mama Bear does.
Speaker:And bang in our heads together, you two worked together.
Speaker:You know, it was like we're with juniors all over again.
Speaker:Bang in our heads together, start working together, start communicating and stop fighting.
Speaker:Yes, mom, you know, in front of all the other players.
Speaker:Saboteenies there, hot, hot baves on the WCH.
Speaker:So it was really embarrassing, but it kind of like woke us up.
Speaker:We ended up winning 7-5 in the third.
Speaker:It's fantastic.
Speaker:Now we're in the second week.
Speaker:We're in the fourth round.
Speaker:And, which is quarters.
Speaker:And we get to play even a civich and LaCont.
Speaker:LaCont's big French omen and everything.
Speaker:And every time when we warmed up, it was in the old number one court called the Bullring.
Speaker:And the fans were right on top of you.
Speaker:They've now taken that court away, but it was a special environment,
Speaker:especially when you play a Frenchman or a French player.
Speaker:And every time in the warm-up, we would hit the ball.
Speaker:They would boo us.
Speaker:And when they would hit the ball in the warm-up, they would cheer.
Speaker:Ah, I got it.
Speaker:You know, 5,000, 6,000 people doing this.
Speaker:So in the warm-up.
Speaker:So it was a unique environment.
Speaker:We end up winning.
Speaker:And there's another caveat, another area of the story, which is fun, but it's too long.
Speaker:So we win that match.
Speaker:Get in the semis.
Speaker:Win the semis over Edberg in Peter Corta.
Speaker:Sammy Corta's dad.
Speaker:And they'd won Monte Carlo earlier that year.
Speaker:And so, after the third round, someone said in the locker room,
Speaker:one of the fellow players said, "If you win this, what are you going to do for your celebration?
Speaker:Board used to go to his knees, Pat Cash went up into the players box,
Speaker:never known ever done that before at Wimbledon.
Speaker:But everyone has, like, the unique thing.
Speaker:And so for whatever reason, I said, if we win this thing, you know, and Murphy's like,
Speaker:"Win this thing, what are you talking about?"
Speaker:We just won like three matches by the skin of our teeth.
Speaker:I mean, like, all three matches could have went the wrong way.
Speaker:And I said, "Well, if we win, I'm going to body slam Murphy on the court."
Speaker:Like, it will be the most memorable celebration of all time.
Speaker:So now we're in the finals.
Speaker:And when I said that, it was like,
Speaker:five days ago. So we get the finals is on a Saturday after the Mergeo Fernandez
Speaker:Stephie Graph match. And we're sitting in the locker room.
Speaker:And the one thing when you get to these majors is it's filled.
Speaker:The locker room is filled with players and coaches and bags.
Speaker:That first, like, three or four days with doubles players, with singles players.
Speaker:You're on top of each other. But by the time you're at the end of the major,
Speaker:everybody's gone. It's honestly you. And in this case, my partner and then it was our opponents.
Speaker:And that's it. We didn't have a coach. They had a coach.
Speaker:We played these two Germans. It was a Golden-Prinosal.
Speaker:And they spoke perfect English. And they were honestly 10 feet away.
Speaker:Normally, like, graph wins in like, under an hour.
Speaker:So you kind of anticipate your warm-up. You anticipate everything.
Speaker:And it's just a magical experience because this is your moment.
Speaker:Like, you may never get there again. And that's the one thing that kept...
Speaker:I've never played a match where I felt if I don't win now,
Speaker:I may never get this opportunity to give. And being known as a French Open finalist,
Speaker:compared to a French Open champion, that's a different, that's a completely different
Speaker:area code, zip code, parking lot, all together. And I definitely knew that going in. And so I was...
Speaker:We're waiting in the locker room to... this match ended up going three sets. So there's extra time to
Speaker:sit there. Okay. Like, we're, you know, constantly worried about the game plan. We're... Should I eat now?
Speaker:Should I not eat now? Should I stretch? And I knew Patrick McInero since the juniors.
Speaker:And I got to play with them in doubles and hang out with them, which meant I got really good
Speaker:connections with Johnny Mac. So I practiced with Johnny Mac a ton when I was at college in LA.
Speaker:He would live in a Malibu. It's the practice from out there. And then playing them a few times
Speaker:on the tour before Murphy and I teamed up. Now, it's on the Davis Cup team with him in 92. And so he
Speaker:walks in because he's calling the match with Bud Collins. Our doubles match. He's not calling the
Speaker:women's final. And it's just honestly like the Germans off to the side. And then Murphy and I
Speaker:are sitting there just waiting and Mac comes in. And he gives us... gives us this like general pattern
Speaker:speech. Like, I want you... It's the day before the 49th anniversary of D-Day. And it's a huge deal
Speaker:in France. Huge celebrations in France is liberated and everything like that. So it's kind of...
Speaker:you... As an American, you notice it. And you know it in the French. It's a big deal. But
Speaker:Mac and Ro just starts going off. I want you to take these Germans and I want you to take them back
Speaker:to the beaches and I want you to do the... And I'm just like just the coolest thing. It's like... It's
Speaker:like my football, you know, my... There's like Binslam party. Like Mac and Ro is going off
Speaker:getting us fired up. And the thing I'm thinking to myself is these Germans, they speak perfect
Speaker:English. They weren't even alive when D-Day was going down. And Murphy's saying, "Why is John
Speaker:Mac and Ro screaming at me?" And it was like the pep talk we needed. It was like this... Like you go out
Speaker:there and you're here to kick some serious, but you're an American tennis player, an American competitor.
Speaker:And this is what we do. And this is what Conor's does. And this is what Jack Kramer did. And that's
Speaker:what all... You know, Chris Everett, this is what we do. And it just kind of got us kind of focused
Speaker:on going out to kick butt. So we get out there when the first set, lose a tie-breaker in the second.
Speaker:Murphy is like all upset and not in a changeover that I've blown the tournament. And I'm so... He's
Speaker:sorry that, you know, we could have won or we haven't lost it. We've been down in every single one of
Speaker:these matches. And he just kind of loses it for a while and we get down 3-0. And I'm serving at
Speaker:0-3. And that's... It was the biggest moment in my tennis life because I know if we go down double-break,
Speaker:we're done. And that moment just to keep us relevant, just to keep us within just striking distance.
Speaker:And I end up holding the most important service game in my life. It wasn't that hard, but it wasn't
Speaker:routine just because what really wasn't the balance. What... What if I drop that game, we're done.
Speaker:So we get the 3-1, we break. And then Murphy holds, we start trade and we finally break at 4-0.
Speaker:And Murphy's serving for it. Now Murphy, I'd never played a French open. You know, he played one
Speaker:major earlier the year in Australia. We lost, I think, first or second round. He's serving for the
Speaker:match in John McRown, you know, calling the match. I mean, it's perfect. So he goes out there,
Speaker:big serve, 15 love, another big serve, 30 love. Fantastic. And if you see doubles today,
Speaker:the team's huddle, the real good team's huddle, to be on the same page of where the serve's going to go.
Speaker:What does the net player do? Even the return team, where they're trying to return him things. So
Speaker:Murphy and I huddled forever. And it was always business. Our entire lives is always where the
Speaker:serve's going, where, you know, where does the server want the net player to go? So Murphy's the
Speaker:quarterback of the team when he's serving. He's calling the shots, calling the plays. So he comes up to me
Speaker:at, you know, 5-4-3-3, 30 love. And he goes, whatever you do, don't hurt me. And I'm like, what are
Speaker:you talking about? And he says, don't be stupid. I know you can do something stupid. And just don't
Speaker:hurt me. I go, dude, we haven't won anything. There's celebrations coming. Yeah, celebrate. Yeah,
Speaker:so double-falt, brick, volley, 30 all things are getting really dicey. So I know at this point,
Speaker:as soon as he gets the bone, the box, I've got to cross. I've got to go, like as soon as possible
Speaker:and cross. So he gets the serve in. And I leave so early, the opponent, Golnir couldn't believe he
Speaker:had this opportunity. A freight train could have, like, just, he could have thrown the ball for a winner
Speaker:because I was already committed and he missed it to give us match point. So we get the match point.
Speaker:Murphy gets it in. I try to poach. I can't get there. Murphy gets the volley back. So they start
Speaker:lobbing. So it's basically underneath Murphy. And he should take it. But at the last second, he goes
Speaker:yours. So I have to scramble. And the one thing that I always feel when you're up match point,
Speaker:you can't miss the ball. Like it, because at least if you lose the match, you can sleep for the
Speaker:rest of your life and say, you know what? At least I didn't choke or blow it. So I massage it back
Speaker:down the middle. I don't push it, but I definitely, definitely didn't go for a winner. I was definitely
Speaker:going to put the ball in down the middle. They lob again. I hit another one down the middle. And the
Speaker:guy backed deep behind the baseline. Cornice still like rips it and misses it. We win the French open.
Speaker:Unbelievable. Like crowds going nuts. I go to embrace Murphy. He goes to embrace me. I come up from
Speaker:the from up below. And I clock him with a forearm. He's going down the hug me. I'm coming up. I
Speaker:get him with the forearm. I think I gave him a concussion to I break his jaw. I break. He can't feel his
Speaker:face. He can't, he like, he like, he's kind of like dizzy a little bit. And he starts swearing at me
Speaker:the more the obscenities that you wouldn't believe. He's ripping me, ripping me as we're going to shake
Speaker:hands with our opponents. These these German guys are looking at us going, what is wrong with these
Speaker:guys? There's something wrong with these Jensen brothers. So Murphy's all ticked off, pissed off. He
Speaker:grabs his gear and starts walking off the court. The tournament director goes, "Monsun Murphy,
Speaker:much more V." But he's like, "What? What? What?" He must pick up the trophy. He slams his bag down.
Speaker:And they don't do it this way anymore. But back in the day, there was like it put steps in a red carpet
Speaker:from the chair umpire all the way up to the the president's box. And it was always like the the
Speaker:musketeers from France. There's always these famous tennis players up there. So Murphy walks up like he
Speaker:wins the singles. I'm with the Germans. Like I just lost. Get up there. And there's a trophy that stays
Speaker:at Roland Garibas. And that's the same with the singles, doubles, mixed doubles, juniors. And it's a
Speaker:bigger one. And then they give you smaller replicas. So Murphy takes it and they as they hand us the winning
Speaker:us the winning trophy, Murphy takes it from my hands, holds it up like he just won the singles tournament.
Speaker:And the only picture I have with this trophy, I have, I outreach this high as I can reach because he's
Speaker:taller than I am. And I got three, I got a, I got two fingers and a thumb. I got three like digits on
Speaker:this trophy is the only picture I have holding somewhat the front trophy. And then they put it back in
Speaker:the trophy case until you either win it again or you get to see it from afar. You never get to touch
Speaker:that trophy again. So Murphy, the Germans, you know, they get a nice little you know, played or whatever.
Speaker:And he won't talk to me. So Murphy's face, he can't say anything. There's blood. There's no blood or
Speaker:anything. You can't really talk as is Jaws broken, but he's holding that trophy. So proud and so high in
Speaker:the thing that, you know, to answer your question, how do you get to that moment? And it's just
Speaker:chopping the wood step after step moment after moment and things are going to happen where you have
Speaker:to figure it out. And in my career, I tell juniors all the time, I played one perfect match and I nearly
Speaker:lost it. And everything else was a battle. I wasn't one of these players that could, oh, I'm going to be
Speaker:in the semis this week, where I'm going to there's a guaranteed paycheck, you know, when I get to the
Speaker:finals or maybe win this tournament, every match was a battle. And I think every practice and every
Speaker:tournament that ever led me to that moment prepared me to win that tournament. I love it when you say
Speaker:confidence is a choice, but winning matches is momentum. Because that was that question of peaking
Speaker:at the right time. In that case, it wasn't necessarily peaking. It was a lot of things that came
Speaker:together, even the John McEnroe. Oh, yeah. And then the mother, the mother smashing you boys back
Speaker:together, right? It's you always give credit to others as well, which I really appreciate. You
Speaker:got to have those good people around you. And thankfully, you've got Patricia Jensen and John
Speaker:McEnroe evidently helping you helping you win matches. And let me get a 30 seconds to in the quarters
Speaker:when we're playing LeContin, even as a bitch, even as a bitch, one of the biggest servers in the
Speaker:history of the game, Un-acing machine. And the day before we were practicing this guy Dennis
Speaker:Ralston who played at USC one Wimbledon doubles at 18 in the Hall of Fame and everything. He
Speaker:was working with Gabby Saboteini, one of the hottest tennis players in the history of sport.
Speaker:And he's going, Hey, I can't warm her up. Can you guys warm her up? Absolutely. We can definitely warm
Speaker:up Gabby Saboteini. So we get out there and back in the day, we used to call it hitting approach
Speaker:shots. So when you go and talk to a girl and want to ask her out, we call it, okay, you got to hit
Speaker:approach shots. Got to stick that, you know, got to stick that approach shot, you know, and coming to
Speaker:the net. And she had really good passing shots. So, you know, Murphy and I in this warm up are
Speaker:trying to ask her out and she's trying to warm up her match and everything. And so after we act
Speaker:like a couple of knuckleheads, Dennis says, Hey, you guys played even a switch in the caught tomorrow.
Speaker:Why don't you guys play both backs on Goren's serve? He's not a real good volunteer. This ball doesn't
Speaker:come back that often. So he's not really good when the ball gets back on him. And if you play both
Speaker:back, give yourself a little bit more space and time in the defensive in the first and second serve.
Speaker:I've done it on the first before, but we've never done it on the second. And it's another
Speaker:example of the right person at the right time. If we hadn't been chasing Debbie 17y, you know,
Speaker:like this is a strategy. And you know, it's just being open and looking for opportunities
Speaker:and to pay it off.
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