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Dallas Burnett: Hey, everybody.

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We're talking to Andrew Whitman today.

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What an amazing guy He is, a former marine
police officer, federal agent turned

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resilience coach, the creator of the
Inner Armor Resilience System, the author

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of Inner Armor Perpetual Resilience.

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He's protected.

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World leaders like Nancy Pelosi
and trained elite warriors has some

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incredible stories of staying mission
ready, under pressure, building mental

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toughness, and leading through chaos.

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He's a great new friend of mine.

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You don't want to miss this
incredible conversation.

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Welcome to the last 10%.

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Your host, Dallas Burnett, dives into
incredible conversations that will inspire

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you to finish well and finish strong.

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Listen as guests share their journeys and
valuable advice on living in the last 10%.

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you are a leader, a coach, a business
owner, or someone looking to level

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up, you are in the right place.

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Remember, you can give 90% effort and
make it a long way, but it's finding

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out how to unlock the last 10%.

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That makes all the difference in your
life, your relationships, and your work.

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Now here's Dallas.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome.

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I'm Burnett, sitting in my 1905 Koch
Brothers barber chair in Thrive Studios.

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But more importantly, today
we have a great guest.

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He's a Marine Corps combat veteran.

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Former federal agent has a
PhD in theological psychology.

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Oh my gosh, we're gonna
have to talk about that.

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Who's protected heads of state like
Hillary Clinton, Benjamin Netanyahu.

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He's trained Navy Seals
and special forces.

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Now he equips leaders, teaches teams how
to thrive in high stress environments

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with his new inner armor system.

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He's a world class expert in
resilience and high stakes performance.

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He's gonna share some tools with us
today, so welcome to the show, Andrew.

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Andrew Wittman: Thanks
Dallas for having me.

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I gotta get me one of them chairs.

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Man, that thing is awesome.

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Dallas Burnett: everyone needs a chair.

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Andrew Wittman: Yeah, that Coke
chair from 19, I mean, yeah.

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Barber chair.

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I need that.

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I'm like, that's so cool.

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What a flex, bro.

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Dallas Burnett: Yeah.

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You know, we had this special reveal
in the episode, I don't know what it

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was, episode 50 or something, but I
saw this, one back in former life I

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was in, in music was writing songs.

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I was gonna Nashville all the time.

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I got hooked up with Charlie Daniels
and, so they had us out to his studio

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we walked in and, he wasn't even there.

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He was out on the road and
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studio and it's all empty.

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But I'm like, looking around, I'm
like, oh my gosh, this is incredible.

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It's just like in the backyard
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back of his, you know, farm.

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Andrew Wittman: Right.

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Dallas Burnett: like we walk in
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and just like what you'd think.

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And then I turn around in the
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big barber chair sitting there,
this huge, huge barber chair.

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And I was like, Is that where
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many days just living in the studio?

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They gotta have a barber chair.

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They just bring the barber
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They're like, no, dude,
they don't do that.

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That's Charlie Daniel's chair.

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And I was like,

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Andrew Wittman: Aw.

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Dallas Burnett: if he's got a
chair like that, his studio he

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sits in, I gotta give him one of

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Andrew Wittman: right.

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Dallas Burnett: that's,
that's one of the reasons

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Andrew Wittman: Dude, that is so awesome.

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And of course you just reminded me
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he said, now as Charlie Daniels and
Jack Daniels, are they brothers?

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I said, no, but I think
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Dallas Burnett: Would not surprise me.

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That's awesome.

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Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

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Dallas Burnett: man, so just, I'm
excited about this conversation

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today because you've just had such
amazing, just incredible experiences.

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Andrew Wittman: Yeah,

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Dallas Burnett: over the
world, train all these things.

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Well, I just want to get into that,
but I want to jump back a little bit.

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Before we get there, tell us
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what's your history, where'd you come
from, and how did you get into becoming

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this, big time, resilience, coach,
military special aids and all this stuff.

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Give us a little

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Andrew Wittman: yeah.

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So, my mom and daddy were
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school in a town called Wagga
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And, there was four Americans in the town.

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Two were my parents, one was my
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And there's, it was, they didn't have
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the eighties and there was no, not
a Pizza Hut, McDonald's, nothing.

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So, um, they, and we were, a
strange attitude, but I was

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the fat kid in high school.

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And of course the Australians,
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They called me beach ball.

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because I was five three and 185 pounds.

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and yeah, and I got bullied a lot, right?

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Because I wasn't allowed to fight back.

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So, and then, you know, I would cry
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kids, anyway, and then I would turn to
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even a bigger target for the bullies.

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but I met two guys there and they, got
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introduced me to the military, right?

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So when left, the mission field.

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I was supposed to go to a, bible college
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at that time 'cause that's who was
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And I was like, I'm a fat kid and
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gonna enlist in the Marine Corps.

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So that's what I did.

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I was like, that was like,
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I don't think so.

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You know, so, so I went down to
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there for like four hours 'cause
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recruiter's Hey, you wanna come over
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we got great food in the Navy.

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I'm like, no, I wanna be a Marine.

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So I signed up, and I made in my
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and I asked him, and he's are you sure
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scores are like air traffic controller.

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And I'm like, avionics.

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I'm like, dude, Avi, I
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I would've went to Lincoln
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You know what I mean?

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I want to, I wanna roll in the
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so I went to bootcamp and I
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Dallas Burnett: Wow.

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Andrew Wittman: was the
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mental toughness or resilience.

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I had to get my physical
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And then, so I learned
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I spent six years in the Corps.

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I was in desert.

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Dallas Burnett: you feel like that

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Andrew Wittman: Yeah,

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Dallas Burnett: you feel like that was
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to go into the military to get in
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Andrew Wittman: a hundred percent.

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Dallas Burnett: you

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Andrew Wittman: hundred percent.

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Man.

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I did not wanna be like, I did not
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anxiety and, that life was always
pushing me around like these bills.

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And I had no, I had no way to fight back
or to do, to take control of anything.

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So I'm really, I'm like
a control freak, right?

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I, anything that I can control, I will.

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But then I found out the only
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is my response to anything.

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It's, I can't control anything
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I have to control me.

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So I, that, that's the journey, right?

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but it started there because I
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being the fat kid and being scared.

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Dallas Burnett: know though, I mean,
your, your mom and dad's in Australia.

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They're are they like, dude, what are you,

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Andrew Wittman: yeah.

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Dallas Burnett: did they
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Andrew Wittman: yeah.

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No, they wrestled a lot with it.

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'cause my mom and dad are, or
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but they're all independent.

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There's not like a, it's not
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So very fundamentalist.

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And, really they were like, I don't
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going to hell, but that's what they said.

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If you join the military,
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they don't even vote.

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They don't, do you know what I mean?

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we don't do any of those things.

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One of those deals.

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Andrew Wittman: okay.

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We all made, it was great.

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It was at the time.

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And I made this decision, before I was 18.

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I. I tried to, you know, enlist and so
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the three and a half hours to the
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my parents to sign the consent form.

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no, get outta here.

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So that was, so I had to wait till
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That's so I was going against
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restoration with my mom and dad.

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Don't, I, that's one of the things that
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Even when you get 20, you realize
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than you gave them credit for.

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I'm like, wait, they knew what they
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tell, and it's honestly because my
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Bootcamp was like vacation.

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Dallas Burnett: Oh,

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Andrew Wittman: the drill
Strucker yelled at me.

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I'm like, ah, that's easy.

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I got this.

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So I rose to the top very quickly in
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So shout out to my,

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Dallas Burnett: like

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Andrew Wittman: oh man, I'm
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Dallas Burnett: That's so funny.

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I've never, that's not,
my bootcamp was like a

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Andrew Wittman: it was, thanks.

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Dallas Burnett: That's great.

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So you go through, you're in the Marines
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you transition how, what does that

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Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

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So I, I get through my, I did six
years and I did, like I said, I

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did, desert Storm and I was in
combat during Papa Panama thing.

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We did, I did five deployments in
six years in the infantry, right?

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I also did counter terrorism
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terrorism in Honduras.

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And so I, and I got married
along the way, right?

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And I wanted to be with my bride,
and we got tired of being gone

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all the time from each other.

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oh, I wish, she's I didn't get married
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I'm like, we're just separated constantly.

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So I was like, all right, this
is not my, the life for me.

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So I got out and I did go
to Bible college, right?

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So then I went, and I was like, I just,
I'm not ready for the, the ministry thing,

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I was a little too not high speed, and
I mean, I'm not saying I'm addicted to

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adrenaline or whatever, but, so anyway.

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Dallas Burnett: after you go from
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Andrew Wittman: You

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Dallas Burnett: counter-terrorism, I could

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Andrew Wittman: so what I
did was I Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Know, right?

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So anyway, so I started my law enforcement
career there in Spartanburg County.

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I became a sheriff's deputy
in Spartanburg County.

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Dallas Burnett: oh

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Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

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In 1997.

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Yeah.

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and Chuck Wright was like, he was
on a traffic unit at the time, and

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we both had the same Sergeant John
Lyles, and I was just a rookie and

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he was, the, the experienced traffic
veteran and everybody wanted to be

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Chuck, 'cause he had the unmarked
car and, you know, it was so, yeah.

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and then I, it was great watching
him become, and I think he's retiring

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now or something, but he had a really
great run and what a great dude.

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So that was my, how I started my law
enforcement career at Spartanburg

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Dallas Burnett: Wow.

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That's awesome.

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That's

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Andrew Wittman: County.

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Yeah.

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Dallas Burnett: that is really neat.

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So then you go from law
enforcement into this

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Andrew Wittman: Well, I became a federal
agent because here's what happened.

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Here's what ha what had happened
was, my wife became pregnant with

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her first, and she says, baby,
I wanna be a stay at home mom.

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I'm like, I'm all about that.

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But you're making 65% of our income.

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'cause at the sheriff at the time,
I was making $7 and 41 cents an

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hour, like literally no overtime.

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It was $21,000 a year.

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Dallas Burnett: Oh

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Andrew Wittman: And I'm like,
we cannot make it on that baby.

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Right?

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So, uh, I just put in all my federal
applications to every A, B, CI

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took every test, the marshals,
the DEA, the Secret Service.

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Dallas Burnett: Wow.

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Andrew Wittman: so the one who called
me was US Capitol Police, which

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I had rarely never even heard of,
but I found out that they do the

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same thing the Secret Service does.

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They just do it for the
House and the Senate.

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And then, so of course, the ones that ask
each to the dance, that's who you go with.

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So I entered, I moved to DC, became
a capital police officer, spent about

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three years in uniform, and then
got a chance to become an agent.

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and I went through, agent training
with the diplomatic security Service.

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At the time, I was the last class that
went through diplomatic security service

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with the State Department for Capitol
Police before they had their own.

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so I was a State Department trained agent.

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That was right before nine 11.

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It was like April I. of 2001 and then nine
11 happened, and they just immediately

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pulled me over to, do protective work.

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And that's where we got into that.

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Yeah.

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Dallas Burnett: Oh my gosh.

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So what was it like, you go from a,
like a local, sheriff type role in

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the deep south to DC protecting heads
of state and was that like, was that

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a very difficult transition or was
it like, oh, this is what I'm made to

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Andrew Wittman: it was difficult when
I went into uniform up there because

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it's a lot of so in South Carolina,
we're the right now police, right?

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My zone, I had Greer, Lyman,
Wellford Duncan Reedville, right?

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It was 150 square miles and there's
only two deputies on any given

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time covering that entire thing.

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So my backup's half an hour away.

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So when you're showing up to
domestic violence or whatever it

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is, you show, it's you, right?

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you, your guys got, so
it's adrenaline high.

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I mean it's very dangerous.

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It's a, My kids always lay, they
say that's when I learned how to

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lie, was at the sheriff's office.

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It's not lying, it's deescalating.

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No, we're not arresting anybody.

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I just need you to put these handcuffs on
for, Hey, it's just for your safety and

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my, I just need you to get in the car.

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We're not going anywhere.

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I just don't want the neighbors
seeing you in the street.

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Next thing you know, it's a
half an hour later we're, at

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the sally port, up at the jail.

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Dallas Burnett: I

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Andrew Wittman: jail.

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Right,

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Dallas Burnett: so

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Andrew Wittman: right,

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Dallas Burnett: so true.

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Andrew Wittman: So it's,

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Dallas Burnett: I can totally

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Andrew Wittman: yeah.

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Dallas Burnett: That's,

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Andrew Wittman: Right.

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So

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Dallas Burnett: no, we're not gonna jail.

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Andrew Wittman: Deescalation.

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so

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Dallas Burnett: Right,

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Andrew Wittman: yeah.

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so we did all that.

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And then I get to Capitol Police
and I'm in uniform and I'm like,

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I'm standing here at this stairwell
making sure a terrorist doesn't walk

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in for 16 hours a day watching the
paint change color from beige to ecro.

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You know what I mean?

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And I was miserable.

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Dallas Burnett: man.

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Andrew Wittman: at the sheriff's office
I made I think 'cause I would, you

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count your arrest, like your stats
would be like I made like 356 arrests

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in the last six months I was there.

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dudes would make go through their
whole career, Capitol, police,

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and barely make three arrests.

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You know what I mean?

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'cause it's not, it's a different mission.

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So once I got outta uniform and I went
to the agent side, then it's crazy

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because now, my jurisdiction is all
the US states and its territories

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and any, and now I'm on a protective
detail and the US title code.

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Now see, we have the same
authority that the Secret Service

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does in their protective detail.

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It's

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code 18 or whatever, right?

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But separation of, powers
eight, article three.

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I have the same power as Article two.

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And interesting thing about
Capitol Police, they're the only

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legislative branch law enforcement.

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I mean that, that's like the
original deep state, right?

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The Congress has their own, they're
not subject to anybody but congress.

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Dallas Burnett: oh, wow.

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Andrew Wittman: Yeah,

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Dallas Burnett: had no idea.

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I had no

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Andrew Wittman: They the
Secret Service agents.

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'cause they're like, yeah, you're
not, we're the Secret Service.

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I'm like, yeah, but I get overtime
pay, so I'm on plumbers pay by two

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30 in the afternoon and you guys
are on law enforcement availability

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pay, which is 25% of your base.

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I'm making, I capped out at
whatever the speaker made.

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Right.

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So it's one of the best kept secrets.

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I just let it out.

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You know that they pay their agents time
and a half, not, they pay 'em hourly

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and not on a salary and then we give
you 25% to be at our beck and call.

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so it, I mean it was great.

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Great.

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Dallas Burnett: wow.

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And so you would just essentially
travel with members of Congress,

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Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

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Dallas Burnett: offering that

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Andrew Wittman: Right.

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Dallas Burnett: and plan that out.

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Andrew Wittman: Correct.

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Dallas Burnett: your

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Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

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So doing the advance.

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when I first started out, I got in,
they pulled me off a midnight post.

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I like this agent, special agent
in charge saw me stand and post

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on midnights after nine 11.

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It was like a, not even three days
after nine 11, we didn't leave the

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hill for I don't know, a week, right?

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So I'm out on post at midnight,
we're sleeping in the locker room

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and he, he just slams on the brakes
of this thing and he gets out.

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He is like, Whit, what are you doing here?

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I'm like, I, this is what I, my job.

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I'm on my post.

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He's Nope.

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He called the watch
commander had me relieved.

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He said, it's already two in the
morning, be back here in a suit and

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tie at seven in the morning for roll
call over at the, I'm like, okay.

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And so that morning they,

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Dallas Burnett: Oh

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Andrew Wittman: yeah.

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I'm like, all right, we're in it now.

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And that's how it started.

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And then they put me with Hillary Clinton.

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For the first couple weeks.

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So I don't know even remember
this, but it was like right after

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she, they left the White House.

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It's 2001.

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Bush is new.

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She's a new senator.

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But she was the first lady.

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So she still has secret service
protection for as the first lady,

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but now she's a sitting senator.

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Right.

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So she can't be on the, so
we have so have jurisdiction.

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So she's got two details She's got the
Secret Service and then Capitol Police.

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So I was the officer whenever
she's on the Hill Capitol police

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agent had to be with them.

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Dallas Burnett: Oh my goodness.

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So you're literally working
with her Secret Service?

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Andrew Wittman: Correct.

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Dallas Burnett: because she's First

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Andrew Wittman: Right.

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Dallas Burnett: And how does that, do
you guys get along Hey man, what's up?

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Andrew Wittman: Oh, no,
we, they were great.

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No, they were great.

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I love those guys.

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They were so funny, man.

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so I'm with, yeah, so I'm with Hillary,
and of course, so we're on the hill,

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I'm a guy that will not be ignored.

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Do you know what I'm saying?

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Dallas, like you could tell me, right?

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Dallas Burnett: I got

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Andrew Wittman: so when I, even
when I'm in uniform, like a senator

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would, like Senator, Kennedy, Ted
Kennedy would come in every morning.

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I would be like, Hey, Senator,
what's going on, Senator?

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every morning he is gonna
see me in uniform, right?

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And he wouldn't, he would not
even acknowledge I existed, dude.

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He'd just walk grumbly.

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Now I know he is shot in the back,
so he is in pain and everything,

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but I'm like, you know what?

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Do not ignore Andrew.

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So every day I would find, you know,
I was watch him and every day that I

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was, I would go tell him good morning.

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I would go find whatever door that
he came in, got out of his car.

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I'm there like, so
every day there I'm, ah,

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Dallas Burnett: Wow.

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Andrew Wittman: so after about six
months of this, he finally just stops

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and he turns around and he looks at me.

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He's what is your name?

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I was like, good morning.

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Say up Andrew.

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He is Andrew what?

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Andrew?

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What he is?

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He like, okay.

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So then after that he
would always tell me, hi.

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Dallas Burnett: Wow.

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Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

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So

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Dallas Burnett: months

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Andrew Wittman: yeah, six months,
I'm like, I'm not furniture man.

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You're not gonna ignore me, right?

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I'm here, I'll put my
life on the line for you.

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So that's what, so I'm up with Hillary.

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I'm gonna be, I'm not
gonna be ignored, right?

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I'm not just furniture.

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So I have the conversation with,
I am Andrew, blah, blah, blah.

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and because I'm at the Capitol and
I've been there for three years in

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uniform, I know all the tunnels.

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Dallas Burnett: Oh wow.

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Andrew Wittman: if she doesn't want
to get right, she doesn't wanna

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get hit by the pre, the press, we
gotta, I'm like, oh, no problem.

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I get you to your car.

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No one ever know you
even left the building.

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She's what?

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Secret Service?

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Don't know that they know the White House.

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They don't know the capitol.

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So I would take her around.

479
00:15:40,026 --> 00:15:43,566
So a, after three weeks, her Secret
Service detail will be like, man, I've

480
00:15:43,566 --> 00:15:44,856
been on her detail for three years.

481
00:15:44,856 --> 00:15:47,616
She still calls me Driver, you're
here for three weeks and it's

482
00:15:47,616 --> 00:15:49,386
Andrew this and Andrew that.

483
00:15:49,706 --> 00:15:53,126
so it's, yeah, the beginning of my people
whispering career, my wife calls it.

484
00:15:53,231 --> 00:15:53,561
Yeah.

485
00:15:53,621 --> 00:15:53,981
Dallas Burnett: awesome.

486
00:15:53,981 --> 00:15:55,931
But you're kind of, you're
valuable at that point.

487
00:15:55,961 --> 00:15:56,681
'cause now you know the

488
00:15:56,906 --> 00:15:57,446
Andrew Wittman: That's the thing.

489
00:15:57,566 --> 00:16:00,536
You gotta solve their problems, even
the ones they didn't even know they had.

490
00:16:00,536 --> 00:16:02,246
And you solve 'em in a
way that always helps.

491
00:16:02,246 --> 00:16:04,196
So this is the beginning
of what I've, right.

492
00:16:04,196 --> 00:16:06,206
Managing upper, it is really
mental toughness, right?

493
00:16:06,206 --> 00:16:07,226
This is not what I want.

494
00:16:07,226 --> 00:16:08,096
It's what the target is.

495
00:16:08,146 --> 00:16:10,516
what is it that they want, what's
the problem I need to solve for them?

496
00:16:10,516 --> 00:16:14,416
Now I'm valuable and not only value,
I become most, I'm like indispensable.

497
00:16:14,416 --> 00:16:16,726
if I'm not there, they're not
ha, they're uncomfortable.

498
00:16:16,726 --> 00:16:18,226
I'm like, Linus with the blanket, right?

499
00:16:18,226 --> 00:16:19,036
The blanket's gone.

500
00:16:19,786 --> 00:16:23,266
so I did that for her for three weeks
and then the anthrax crisis hit, and

501
00:16:23,266 --> 00:16:25,186
we went right, and we got through that.

502
00:16:25,246 --> 00:16:28,526
And then, they put me and I bounced
around and did some stuff with Gephart

503
00:16:28,546 --> 00:16:32,152
and a couple of, until they trained
me, I had to do some, went to nine

504
00:16:32,152 --> 00:16:33,652
11 to ground zero with Gephart.

505
00:16:33,922 --> 00:16:35,272
And I had to learn the
advance in New York.

506
00:16:35,322 --> 00:16:38,562
my dad pastor a church in New York when I
was in seventh or in fifth grade, right?

507
00:16:38,592 --> 00:16:41,142
77. So I like knew my, I don't know.

508
00:16:41,142 --> 00:16:42,512
this is God, bring it back to your memory.

509
00:16:42,512 --> 00:16:45,542
But I knew my way around New York, in
downtown Manhattan and Midtown Manhattan.

510
00:16:45,542 --> 00:16:47,402
I'm five, I'm seven, I'm fifth grade.

511
00:16:47,402 --> 00:16:47,882
Oh, I know.

512
00:16:47,882 --> 00:16:49,622
But I know better than
anybody else all of a sudden.

513
00:16:49,892 --> 00:16:50,852
So now I'm the guy.

514
00:16:51,422 --> 00:16:53,612
And that kind of marked me as,
all right, he's ready to travel.

515
00:16:53,642 --> 00:16:55,772
'cause he got our butt out
of the fire in New York.

516
00:16:56,202 --> 00:16:57,492
and then they put me with Joe Lieberman.

517
00:16:57,492 --> 00:16:58,722
So now I'm his lead advance.

518
00:16:58,737 --> 00:17:00,012
and I'm a Lieberman's detail.

519
00:17:00,012 --> 00:17:01,272
My job is to go everywhere.

520
00:17:01,272 --> 00:17:01,962
He's gonna go.

521
00:17:01,962 --> 00:17:05,202
I have to get on the ground before him
and totally advance everything out.

522
00:17:05,202 --> 00:17:08,952
Now the Secret Service has a team of like
10 dudes in advance offices all over.

523
00:17:09,192 --> 00:17:10,512
I'm one guy, capital police.

524
00:17:10,752 --> 00:17:13,962
I have to advance every hotel,
every route, every restaurant,

525
00:17:14,202 --> 00:17:16,082
every venue, the hospital.

526
00:17:16,142 --> 00:17:18,962
I need emergency, dental, all these
things that go into it, right?

527
00:17:18,962 --> 00:17:22,242
So it made me, very good at it because
you have to, you had to wear all the

528
00:17:22,242 --> 00:17:23,862
hats, like in the Secret Service.

529
00:17:23,862 --> 00:17:25,962
It would be like one guy
that just does the hotels.

530
00:17:26,292 --> 00:17:28,542
He could spend like 10
years just doing the hotels.

531
00:17:28,962 --> 00:17:30,192
Dallas Burnett: just doing hotels.

532
00:17:30,282 --> 00:17:31,692
Oh my gosh, that's incredible.

533
00:17:31,692 --> 00:17:32,442
You've gotta do it all.

534
00:17:32,442 --> 00:17:33,042
You've gotta be the

535
00:17:33,207 --> 00:17:34,137
Andrew Wittman: Yeah, so because,

536
00:17:34,167 --> 00:17:34,367
Dallas Burnett: know

537
00:17:34,497 --> 00:17:36,627
Andrew Wittman: so it helps you to
be at the lower, I wanna say that's

538
00:17:36,627 --> 00:17:38,847
the minor leagues, but that's how
they looked at us at Capitol Police.

539
00:17:38,847 --> 00:17:40,857
Capitol Police is probably getting
a pretty good name now though.

540
00:17:40,857 --> 00:17:42,987
After there was the shooting
with Steve Scalise, right?

541
00:17:42,987 --> 00:17:44,067
That kind of put 'em on the map.

542
00:17:44,187 --> 00:17:45,987
And there was the January 6th stuff.

543
00:17:45,987 --> 00:17:48,807
They're they have a little more
well-known than they were back in the day.

544
00:17:49,207 --> 00:17:51,687
it's a great agency though,
because we have, anything that

545
00:17:51,687 --> 00:17:54,507
you wanna do in law enforcement,
you could do it at Capitol Police.

546
00:17:54,607 --> 00:17:57,097
I'm not trying to recruit for 'em,
but it's, if you wanted to get

547
00:17:57,097 --> 00:17:59,917
into Federal, that would be the
place I would start because you

548
00:17:59,917 --> 00:18:01,357
really can write your own ticket.

549
00:18:01,817 --> 00:18:03,617
and there's still tons of opportunity.

550
00:18:03,837 --> 00:18:05,397
you just gotta be willing to move to DC

551
00:18:05,409 --> 00:18:06,009
Dallas Burnett: Oh yeah.

552
00:18:06,039 --> 00:18:06,399
Yeah.

553
00:18:06,429 --> 00:18:10,599
and the connections of the network,
the people that you're around every

554
00:18:10,779 --> 00:18:11,274
Andrew Wittman: every day.

555
00:18:11,278 --> 00:18:13,108
Dallas Burnett: I know that
there's things that you can't

556
00:18:13,108 --> 00:18:14,878
share, but just being in the room.

557
00:18:15,178 --> 00:18:17,068
Andrew Wittman: I am telling
you, I told my mentors, right?

558
00:18:17,068 --> 00:18:19,828
I learned how to do people with, my
political mentors are my political,

559
00:18:19,828 --> 00:18:22,738
but you're in the room with the
best military minds, the best.

560
00:18:22,738 --> 00:18:25,568
so so Ted Kennedy, here's
the spinoff of Ted Kennedy.

561
00:18:25,598 --> 00:18:26,288
So that happened.

562
00:18:26,288 --> 00:18:31,288
Ted Kennedy, when I was a rookie officer,
fast forward four years, Elton John's

563
00:18:31,288 --> 00:18:33,088
coming to the hill for his AIDS thing.

564
00:18:33,398 --> 00:18:35,378
hey, Ted Kennedy is sponsoring him.

565
00:18:35,408 --> 00:18:39,428
Ted Kennedy says Andrew will be
doing Elton John's protective detail.

566
00:18:40,803 --> 00:18:41,093
Dallas Burnett: what?

567
00:18:41,226 --> 00:18:43,986
Andrew Wittman: so I'm the guy, they call
me out and they're like, oh, Senator Ken.

568
00:18:43,986 --> 00:18:44,976
Oh, Senator Kennedy, watch.

569
00:18:45,186 --> 00:18:46,806
Because I see, this is
what I'm talking about.

570
00:18:46,806 --> 00:18:50,136
I'm telling hi and I, and every
time I'm talking four years later,

571
00:18:50,136 --> 00:18:51,636
I need Andrew to do Elton John.

572
00:18:51,636 --> 00:18:54,756
So I'm with Elton John all day, and
I do what I do for everybody else.

573
00:18:55,006 --> 00:18:57,466
I'm like, I'm parking his car where
it needs to be parked, everything.

574
00:18:57,476 --> 00:19:00,176
I'm running it like, he's like
the speaker of the house, right?

575
00:19:00,716 --> 00:19:02,766
so by the time we're done,
he's his aid come out and he's

576
00:19:02,816 --> 00:19:03,986
Sir Elton wants to meet you.

577
00:19:04,056 --> 00:19:04,956
Because I'm not talking to 'em.

578
00:19:04,956 --> 00:19:05,646
I'm doing my job.

579
00:19:05,646 --> 00:19:06,996
I don't have time to talk to you, man.

580
00:19:06,996 --> 00:19:08,136
I'm not taking a picture with you.

581
00:19:08,136 --> 00:19:10,546
Or they, they wanna take
a picture with me, right?

582
00:19:10,546 --> 00:19:12,376
So I'm like, so I'm like, okay.

583
00:19:12,376 --> 00:19:16,366
So I go into the green room and
he's super awesome, but he tries to

584
00:19:16,366 --> 00:19:18,706
hire me to run his security detail.

585
00:19:19,776 --> 00:19:20,066
Dallas Burnett: What?

586
00:19:20,086 --> 00:19:20,356
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

587
00:19:20,356 --> 00:19:23,031
and I'm like, I can't, I'm doing
this, I'm the, I got a thing,

588
00:19:23,031 --> 00:19:23,841
I, I'm a federal agent, man.

589
00:19:23,841 --> 00:19:26,781
I can't do I all, I could see myself was
behind stage wearing the pink Feather

590
00:19:26,781 --> 00:19:28,751
bow going, tiny dancer at all unit.

591
00:19:28,751 --> 00:19:28,901
Yeah.

592
00:19:28,901 --> 00:19:30,161
Tiny dancer at all units.

593
00:19:30,161 --> 00:19:31,421
Rocket Man has left the building.

594
00:19:31,421 --> 00:19:34,421
Tiny dancer, all unit,
But he's super awesome.

595
00:19:34,421 --> 00:19:37,481
he got tickets to my family and friends
to, behind the stage in a meet and

596
00:19:37,481 --> 00:19:40,181
greet when he was actually in the
Greenville concert and my friends

597
00:19:40,196 --> 00:19:42,956
at Green, at that Greenville concert
went and they behind the stage.

598
00:19:42,956 --> 00:19:45,446
He's super awesome, great
super generous guy, but you're

599
00:19:45,446 --> 00:19:46,856
around the best of the best.

600
00:19:47,156 --> 00:19:50,736
And you learn, how do they think,
how do they process information?

601
00:19:50,736 --> 00:19:51,336
How do they observe?

602
00:19:51,336 --> 00:19:53,166
What's their viewpoint,
what's their mindset?

603
00:19:53,166 --> 00:19:54,966
And that's, I wasn't wasting my time.

604
00:19:54,966 --> 00:19:55,854
Dallas Burnett: that's really great, man.

605
00:19:55,854 --> 00:19:59,384
That's such a cool story about Elton
John and, man, that's just to be

606
00:19:59,384 --> 00:20:03,474
in the room and, just be able to
experience how these conversations

607
00:20:03,474 --> 00:20:06,294
are going down and see people and
just being, that's just fantastic.

608
00:20:06,294 --> 00:20:09,964
let's talk about a little bit, let's
talk about some things you learned.

609
00:20:09,964 --> 00:20:14,404
First of all, before we get into
the inner armor or resilience and

610
00:20:14,409 --> 00:20:19,719
in that discussion, was somebody
that you ran across in, in your work

611
00:20:19,719 --> 00:20:22,149
at in Washington that you really.

612
00:20:22,588 --> 00:20:24,855
You respected how they approached things.

613
00:20:24,865 --> 00:20:27,235
you made comments about different
people, but was there anybody that

614
00:20:27,295 --> 00:20:27,565
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

615
00:20:27,625 --> 00:20:28,015
Dallas Burnett: jumped out?

616
00:20:28,015 --> 00:20:30,295
You were like that man or woman?

617
00:20:30,295 --> 00:20:33,290
Man, when I was around them,
I just, I paid extra close

618
00:20:33,530 --> 00:20:33,830
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

619
00:20:33,980 --> 00:20:34,910
Dallas Burnett: they were just so awesome.

620
00:20:34,910 --> 00:20:37,080
Andrew Wittman: I'll tell you
the, Joe Lieberman, he's the same.

621
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,590
He was the only guy that was the same,
whether it was just me and him in the room

622
00:20:40,620 --> 00:20:42,060
or we're in front of a press conference.

623
00:20:42,090 --> 00:20:43,650
He's the same everywhere.

624
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,460
There's no shtick.

625
00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:46,390
I, and he was like family to me.

626
00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:49,910
Actually, my, the first day I was with
him, it was, he's an Orthodox Jew, right?

627
00:20:49,910 --> 00:20:53,350
So they walk on, they don't drive
the car to synagogue on Sabbath.

628
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:54,250
They don't turn on the lights.

629
00:20:54,250 --> 00:20:58,560
I'm like, guys, you're like part-time
Amish, like no cars during the

630
00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,820
weekend, Sabbath on Friday night.

631
00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:03,150
So anyway, it's Y Kippur,
it's Dave Atonement, and of

632
00:21:03,150 --> 00:21:04,290
course I'm the new agent.

633
00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:06,150
Remember this is back
nine 11 just happened.

634
00:21:06,180 --> 00:21:09,270
He was the vice presidential candidate,
if you remember the Al Gore thing

635
00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:11,130
and the bush, the hanging Chad.

636
00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:13,290
So he's like a rock star still.

637
00:21:13,290 --> 00:21:14,100
He's still a rock.

638
00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:15,120
He's got a detail.

639
00:21:15,330 --> 00:21:19,400
And so we need, he's going to, synagogue,
which is, he lives in Georgetown,

640
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,930
so it's three miles from his house.

641
00:21:20,930 --> 00:21:22,460
We're gonna, you're gonna
have to walk, right?

642
00:21:22,460 --> 00:21:25,745
and the car will trail the, in case
there's, An incident, we'll throw him

643
00:21:25,745 --> 00:21:28,775
in the Suburban, but somebody has to
walk with him and you're the new guy.

644
00:21:29,555 --> 00:21:30,875
I'm like, okay, I don't care.

645
00:21:30,875 --> 00:21:31,565
I'll walk three miles.

646
00:21:31,565 --> 00:21:31,985
It doesn't matter.

647
00:21:32,255 --> 00:21:32,885
So we're right.

648
00:21:32,885 --> 00:21:35,165
So he's gonna start telling me
about Day of Atonement, right?

649
00:21:35,165 --> 00:21:36,305
And I'm like, oh yeah, Senator.

650
00:21:36,305 --> 00:21:36,995
That's what we believe.

651
00:21:36,995 --> 00:21:37,715
What Jesus did.

652
00:21:37,715 --> 00:21:40,445
he was Son of God, son of man,
scapegoat and a sacrificial goat.

653
00:21:40,445 --> 00:21:43,925
And hypostatic union was split and
a scapegoat went, up to heaven to

654
00:21:43,925 --> 00:21:45,665
put the blood on the, and he's what?

655
00:21:45,665 --> 00:21:47,975
And I'm like, so I go through the
whole thing and we get to the synagogue

656
00:21:47,975 --> 00:21:49,495
and he is Hey, rabbi, this is Andrew.

657
00:21:49,495 --> 00:21:50,875
He knows the Torah better than you.

658
00:21:51,415 --> 00:21:53,850
I'm like, don't tell that.

659
00:21:56,195 --> 00:21:58,775
Dallas Burnett: That's hilarious
that you're walking with the vice

660
00:21:58,775 --> 00:22:03,155
presidential candidate who's Jewish,
telling him about the nuances of,

661
00:22:03,275 --> 00:22:03,725
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

662
00:22:04,415 --> 00:22:04,835
Dallas Burnett: and ju,

663
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,240
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

664
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:05,720
Crazy.

665
00:22:05,750 --> 00:22:05,900
Dallas Burnett: it's

666
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,480
Andrew Wittman: And then, so
then I'm asking the question.

667
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,890
This is where he is he's
you gotta talk to the rabbi.

668
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:10,970
'cause I'm like, alright Senator.

669
00:22:10,970 --> 00:22:13,220
So here's my question is so
Dave Atone we're, now how are

670
00:22:13,220 --> 00:22:14,150
you atoning for your sins?

671
00:22:14,180 --> 00:22:15,260
'cause there's no blood sacrifice.

672
00:22:15,260 --> 00:22:16,670
You had to put the blood once a year.

673
00:22:16,670 --> 00:22:18,860
Aaron had to take it, high priest had to
take it in and put it on the mercy seat.

674
00:22:18,860 --> 00:22:19,550
You're not doing that.

675
00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:21,530
We believe Jesus did
that once for all for us.

676
00:22:21,980 --> 00:22:22,880
How are you atoning?

677
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,050
a fast and some prayers.

678
00:22:24,090 --> 00:22:25,290
I don't, does that get it done?

679
00:22:25,290 --> 00:22:26,220
I'm not just, I'm just curious.

680
00:22:26,220 --> 00:22:27,660
He's you gotta talk to
the rabbi about that.

681
00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:31,700
So that was the, and then, for the next
year I was with him as his lead advance.

682
00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:34,450
We'd always go to the, whatever synagogue
we were in, the rabbinical students would

683
00:22:34,450 --> 00:22:35,980
come over and they'd wanna debate, right?

684
00:22:35,980 --> 00:22:36,850
They wanna talk to Andrew.

685
00:22:36,850 --> 00:22:40,420
Now I could preach 'em the gospel,
but only out of the Old Testament

686
00:22:40,420 --> 00:22:41,440
you can't use the New Testament.

687
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:41,890
'cause they don't.

688
00:22:41,890 --> 00:22:42,040
Right?

689
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,600
So I'm hanging out in Isaiah.

690
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,760
I call Isaiah the gospel,
the Old Testament, right?

691
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,400
So you gotta, but I learned more.

692
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,400
I'm telling you, I learned more from
them, about the covenant and about.

693
00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:55,490
I don't know how we got into this,
like the word blessing means it

694
00:22:55,490 --> 00:22:59,170
culturally, it means, it means kneeling
down and giving someone a gift.

695
00:22:59,170 --> 00:23:02,050
When you bless somebody kneeling down,
like you're giving a five-year-old

696
00:23:02,050 --> 00:23:03,970
a piece of candy, which I was like,
that's great, but they're like, but

697
00:23:03,970 --> 00:23:07,720
culturally, Andrew, culturally, in
our culture, it means somebody who

698
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,665
has consistently lucky success.

699
00:23:09,735 --> 00:23:11,505
So someone looks at you and
they say you're blessed.

700
00:23:11,505 --> 00:23:14,585
It means because we recognize that
you have consistently lucky success.

701
00:23:14,585 --> 00:23:15,545
Like, how could that happen?

702
00:23:15,595 --> 00:23:17,485
Joseph had consistently lucky success.

703
00:23:17,485 --> 00:23:20,545
As soon as he got up, Daniel
Shad recommended consistently.

704
00:23:20,545 --> 00:23:22,965
I'm like, wow, that just blowing
me, And then we got into words like,

705
00:23:22,995 --> 00:23:24,165
what shalom means and all that.

706
00:23:24,165 --> 00:23:26,895
So I learned a ton of the
Hebrew stuff from them.

707
00:23:27,265 --> 00:23:30,205
but it was, it's like you said,
I'm not wasting my time or the

708
00:23:30,205 --> 00:23:31,645
opportunity that's in front of me.

709
00:23:31,645 --> 00:23:32,185
You know what I mean?

710
00:23:32,815 --> 00:23:33,105
Dallas Burnett: Yeah.

711
00:23:33,250 --> 00:23:36,510
And it's, it is just really cool
to hear, you notice the consistency

712
00:23:36,550 --> 00:23:37,930
of a man, of an individual.

713
00:23:37,930 --> 00:23:41,530
Like you said, there's that, that
he was somebody that you noticed was

714
00:23:41,530 --> 00:23:46,510
the same on, on camera, off camera,
at press conference, off at home.

715
00:23:47,410 --> 00:23:48,730
I think that's just really important.

716
00:23:48,730 --> 00:23:50,710
I think that's really
cool that you were able to

717
00:23:50,935 --> 00:23:51,235
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

718
00:23:51,258 --> 00:23:53,303
Dallas Burnett: and just
see him in that capacity.

719
00:23:53,303 --> 00:23:55,373
'cause obviously in Washington that's not,

720
00:23:55,658 --> 00:23:57,848
Andrew Wittman: No, he's the only,
he's the only one I saw up there.

721
00:23:57,903 --> 00:23:59,553
and I'll be honest with
you, I'm not even like that.

722
00:23:59,553 --> 00:24:03,093
like I, when I'm doing a ra, I put my
radio voice on when I'm like, yeah,

723
00:24:03,093 --> 00:24:04,413
welcome to the Get Warrior tough show.

724
00:24:04,463 --> 00:24:06,663
He's so I, I'm not
even, I'm not like that.

725
00:24:06,663 --> 00:24:08,343
So it is just, it's an amazing thing.

726
00:24:08,343 --> 00:24:11,163
And he was an amazing individual and
he told me, he said, Andrew, I think,

727
00:24:11,213 --> 00:24:12,713
we're both looking for the same guy.

728
00:24:12,713 --> 00:24:14,663
You're looking for him to
come back the second time.

729
00:24:14,663 --> 00:24:16,343
We're looking for him to
come back the first time.

730
00:24:16,343 --> 00:24:18,263
It's the same guy though,
and I'm almost there.

731
00:24:18,263 --> 00:24:20,968
He said, I'm Almo, you almost got
me to cross the finish line on it.

732
00:24:22,123 --> 00:24:24,003
That was back in 2001, Yeah.

733
00:24:24,063 --> 00:24:26,103
And the last time I
even, I did talk to him.

734
00:24:26,103 --> 00:24:29,503
I had an email exchange with
him, in 2018 after I saw when,

735
00:24:29,543 --> 00:24:31,073
the embassy went into Jerusalem.

736
00:24:31,073 --> 00:24:32,048
He was there with Bibe.

737
00:24:32,053 --> 00:24:33,443
'cause he's the one that
introduced me to Bibe.

738
00:24:33,985 --> 00:24:34,135
Dallas Burnett: Ah,

739
00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:35,110
Andrew Wittman: there's
another story, right?

740
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:37,390
He said, bibe, this is Andrew
Israel has no greater friend.

741
00:24:37,670 --> 00:24:38,990
but, and then I saw he was there.

742
00:24:38,990 --> 00:24:40,580
And so I emailed him,
I saw you at the end.

743
00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:41,810
He's yeah, it was a great day.

744
00:24:41,820 --> 00:24:43,330
'cause he's, he's a covenant guy.

745
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,400
he's all about the, I learned
so much about the covenant

746
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,750
from him and the Orthodox Jews.

747
00:24:46,750 --> 00:24:47,590
It's just amazing.

748
00:24:47,592 --> 00:24:49,032
Dallas Burnett: so that's
how you got connected with

749
00:24:49,077 --> 00:24:49,167
Andrew Wittman: Mm-hmm.

750
00:24:49,512 --> 00:24:50,622
Dallas Burnett: who you also did

751
00:24:50,659 --> 00:24:50,779
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

752
00:24:50,779 --> 00:24:51,889
so that's another story, right?

753
00:24:51,889 --> 00:24:52,729
That's another one of those.

754
00:24:52,779 --> 00:24:56,499
I'm guarding the back stairwell, I
was on Lieberman's detail and after

755
00:24:56,499 --> 00:24:58,139
nine 11, I was gone all the time.

756
00:24:58,169 --> 00:25:00,659
Even if we're in DC I'm like
getting home after midnight,

757
00:25:00,659 --> 00:25:02,069
leaving before four in the morning.

758
00:25:02,904 --> 00:25:05,454
I'm living on, a veteran
caffeine and aspirin stacks.

759
00:25:05,454 --> 00:25:06,294
You remember the ECA?

760
00:25:06,294 --> 00:25:09,724
It's outlawed now, but I would take
two of them, drink a gallon of, stuff,

761
00:25:09,724 --> 00:25:13,714
and then I'm gonna Starbucks for a quad
espresso just to get through the day.

762
00:25:14,024 --> 00:25:16,104
there was days where you worked,
just incredible day, right?

763
00:25:16,104 --> 00:25:18,384
anyway, my son Drew, he was
four years old at the time.

764
00:25:18,384 --> 00:25:20,094
He came, one day I was there
and he is daddy, how come you

765
00:25:20,094 --> 00:25:21,144
don't live with us anymore?

766
00:25:21,969 --> 00:25:21,999
Dallas Burnett: Oh

767
00:25:23,034 --> 00:25:24,474
Andrew Wittman: And I
was like, maybe I do.

768
00:25:24,474 --> 00:25:25,764
And then I thought about
it from his perspective.

769
00:25:25,764 --> 00:25:28,284
I don't even, when I'm not
traveling, I'm still, he's in bed.

770
00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:28,840
the whole, I'm,

771
00:25:29,155 --> 00:25:29,335
Dallas Burnett: it.

772
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:30,250
Andrew Wittman: yeah,
not seeing me at all.

773
00:25:30,250 --> 00:25:33,880
So I went to him, I said, could you guys
just gimme, like four to six weeks in

774
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,310
uniform day work, just come off the road.

775
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:38,920
I know it's putting you in a jam, but it's
really, it's a hardship for my family.

776
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,160
Could you?

777
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:39,940
And they're like, yeah, we'll do it.

778
00:25:39,940 --> 00:25:43,058
So Lieberman was gracious
enough to make it happen, right?

779
00:25:43,058 --> 00:25:45,073
So he encouraged my
superiors to make it happen.

780
00:25:45,073 --> 00:25:47,454
So anyway, so I'm on day work and
of course they're, the superiors

781
00:25:47,454 --> 00:25:50,204
are not happy with me because,
Look, it's just a thing, right?

782
00:25:50,204 --> 00:25:52,374
That it's jealousy is really what it is.

783
00:25:52,374 --> 00:25:54,864
So why do you have these people
paying, like I'm working the system.

784
00:25:54,864 --> 00:25:55,794
I wasn't working the system.

785
00:25:55,794 --> 00:25:56,874
It was just, it's just favor.

786
00:25:56,874 --> 00:26:00,024
But anyway, certain people, sergeants,
whatever, so they're gonna then

787
00:26:00,024 --> 00:26:03,444
yahoo's coming up on the hill and
of course Lieberman is the sponsor.

788
00:26:03,634 --> 00:26:05,724
and he's got his shim
bet with him and, massage

789
00:26:05,809 --> 00:26:06,099
Dallas Burnett: Yeah.

790
00:26:06,231 --> 00:26:08,781
Andrew Wittman: anyway, so I'm on,
they got me on this back stairwell.

791
00:26:08,781 --> 00:26:09,951
It's not even near where he is coming.

792
00:26:09,951 --> 00:26:11,301
I'm just guarding the stairwell, right?

793
00:26:11,351 --> 00:26:13,871
and I'm sta I'm minding my sector man.

794
00:26:13,871 --> 00:26:14,771
I'm not looking around.

795
00:26:14,771 --> 00:26:17,021
I'm like, but I can hear him
down the end of the hall.

796
00:26:17,741 --> 00:26:20,821
And, It's the TV lights
and it's a circus, right?

797
00:26:20,821 --> 00:26:24,241
So all the cameras, and they're all,
and everybody's shouting questions

798
00:26:24,291 --> 00:26:28,371
and they're supposed to go in one
direction and I hear them make the turn.

799
00:26:28,751 --> 00:26:30,911
they all turn and they're heading
towards me, and I can hear

800
00:26:30,911 --> 00:26:31,991
'em getting closer and closer.

801
00:26:31,991 --> 00:26:35,001
And I'm like, this is not the,
that's not the route, And here it is.

802
00:26:35,631 --> 00:26:38,421
We walk up and I feel this hand
on my shoulder, and I turn around

803
00:26:38,421 --> 00:26:39,981
and it's Senator Lieberman.

804
00:26:39,981 --> 00:26:42,111
And he is like, Andrew,
I want you to meet Bebe.

805
00:26:42,111 --> 00:26:42,471
Bebe.

806
00:26:42,471 --> 00:26:43,281
This is Andrew.

807
00:26:43,281 --> 00:26:44,661
Israel has no greater friend.

808
00:26:45,011 --> 00:26:47,441
and so we're talking and,
Bebe's like, why don't you come

809
00:26:47,441 --> 00:26:49,001
with us the rest of the day?

810
00:26:49,371 --> 00:26:50,151
why aren't you with us?

811
00:26:50,151 --> 00:26:52,101
I'm like, I gotta hold
down this stairwell store.

812
00:26:53,781 --> 00:26:54,021
So the

813
00:26:54,261 --> 00:26:55,001
Dallas Burnett: got important work

814
00:26:55,056 --> 00:26:55,326
Andrew Wittman: yeah.

815
00:26:55,326 --> 00:26:56,011
So the senator,

816
00:26:56,126 --> 00:26:56,556
Dallas Burnett: Can't you

817
00:26:56,701 --> 00:26:57,051
Andrew Wittman: right?

818
00:26:57,186 --> 00:26:59,906
So like one of the assistant chiefs are
there, 'cause all the big wigs are there.

819
00:26:59,906 --> 00:27:02,666
He looks at, and so Senator looks
at him and says, can you get someone

820
00:27:02,666 --> 00:27:03,866
to hold this post down for Andrew?

821
00:27:04,046 --> 00:27:06,026
Oh, of course Senator just
makes him hate me even more.

822
00:27:06,026 --> 00:27:08,096
But, so the chief has to stand there.

823
00:27:08,861 --> 00:27:11,891
And hold the post until they get
someone else to relieve the chief.

824
00:27:11,951 --> 00:27:12,521
And I'm off.

825
00:27:12,521 --> 00:27:15,291
And we go and we have lunch
and we spend the day with Bibe.

826
00:27:15,291 --> 00:27:17,031
And I'm, and now, so yeah.

827
00:27:17,031 --> 00:27:20,580
So that was another crazy, see, it's
just, that's the thing though, is

828
00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:22,200
like, how do you present yourself?

829
00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:23,370
Are you, are you there?

830
00:27:23,420 --> 00:27:24,620
I was there to learn, right?

831
00:27:24,620 --> 00:27:28,220
I'm not just, I'm gonna do my job, but I'm
going to be a sponge and learn from it.

832
00:27:28,220 --> 00:27:31,370
And then people, they look at
that, man, I saw a video with,

833
00:27:31,370 --> 00:27:34,460
president Obama, if you're a young
person, he said, just do the job.

834
00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:34,640
Great.

835
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,850
Whatever it is, don't look for
more, pay, don't like, whatever

836
00:27:37,850 --> 00:27:39,290
your thing is, just do it.

837
00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:40,250
Really, really great.

838
00:27:40,250 --> 00:27:41,240
People are gonna take notice.

839
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,530
And that's the best advice, like I
could give anybody that I heard also

840
00:27:44,530 --> 00:27:46,000
from him is I love hearing it from him.

841
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,630
'cause it's true.

842
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:49,060
Any high performer knows they
look for somebody else that just

843
00:27:49,060 --> 00:27:50,650
does get the lunch order, right?

844
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:51,310
Yes.

845
00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:53,770
You may be getting lunch every
day for the rest of your life

846
00:27:53,770 --> 00:27:54,850
because you got the lunch order.

847
00:27:54,850 --> 00:27:55,120
Right.

848
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:55,780
But get it right.

849
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,110
And then maybe we'll add dinner.

850
00:27:57,552 --> 00:27:58,962
Dallas Burnett: that's the last 10% right

851
00:27:59,187 --> 00:27:59,367
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

852
00:27:59,412 --> 00:28:02,347
Dallas Burnett: captured a really
great idea of why we're doing what we

853
00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:06,767
do on the show because it is, there's
a value of excellence and that,

854
00:28:07,037 --> 00:28:08,417
you know, you can be pretty good.

855
00:28:08,417 --> 00:28:10,007
You can get to that first 90%.

856
00:28:10,007 --> 00:28:11,177
Takes a lot of work, but you can get

857
00:28:11,242 --> 00:28:11,532
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

858
00:28:11,865 --> 00:28:15,355
Dallas Burnett: to live in that
last 10%, man, it is, takes a

859
00:28:15,355 --> 00:28:17,125
lot of effort and intentionality.

860
00:28:17,125 --> 00:28:19,015
So I think that's a great transition.

861
00:28:19,015 --> 00:28:25,188
Let's talk a little bit about how we can
better ourselves and be more resilient.

862
00:28:25,248 --> 00:28:28,728
You have a lot of discussions on this
and you do a lot of training on this.

863
00:28:28,728 --> 00:28:33,408
So, uh, what is something that you call
it almost like a field manual, your

864
00:28:33,468 --> 00:28:33,648
Andrew Wittman: Yeah,

865
00:28:33,708 --> 00:28:36,348
Dallas Burnett: like a field
manual, for mental operating system.

866
00:28:36,588 --> 00:28:40,203
Was something like a, a practical
drill or some nugget that, that you

867
00:28:40,203 --> 00:28:42,633
would like to, to share with, listeners

868
00:28:42,963 --> 00:28:43,143
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

869
00:28:43,143 --> 00:28:44,673
Like here's something that
you could use right away.

870
00:28:44,673 --> 00:28:46,623
So I'm, I call it
suspending your disbelief.

871
00:28:46,623 --> 00:28:48,243
It's my two minute rule, right?

872
00:28:48,903 --> 00:28:51,873
Ask you, can you suspend your
disbelief for just two minutes?

873
00:28:52,086 --> 00:28:53,046
People look at me like, what?

874
00:28:53,046 --> 00:28:55,506
I'm like, look, have you ever
seen a movie that you like Dallas?

875
00:28:55,507 --> 00:28:55,922
Dallas Burnett: Sure.

876
00:28:55,922 --> 00:28:56,312
Yeah,

877
00:28:56,312 --> 00:28:57,362
Andrew Wittman: so congratulations.

878
00:28:57,362 --> 00:29:00,572
You suspended your disbelief for an
hour and a half at least, because

879
00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,072
you know it's not real, right?

880
00:29:02,357 --> 00:29:05,477
Even the ones based on a true story
or Hollywood or not, that ain't real.

881
00:29:05,478 --> 00:29:06,226
You know that, right?

882
00:29:06,376 --> 00:29:06,736
Dallas Burnett: right.

883
00:29:06,796 --> 00:29:08,956
Andrew Wittman: in order to have a
good time, you suspend your disbelief.

884
00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:10,936
I'm not asking you to do
anything you don't do already.

885
00:29:11,310 --> 00:29:12,910
But when you hear,

886
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,650
Dallas Burnett: me, let's
give a practical example.

887
00:29:14,650 --> 00:29:16,030
So like the movie, I like

888
00:29:16,030 --> 00:29:16,180
Andrew Wittman: yeah,

889
00:29:16,420 --> 00:29:18,790
Dallas Burnett: but let's land the
plane and I'm at work, I'm doing

890
00:29:18,820 --> 00:29:19,090
Andrew Wittman: right?

891
00:29:19,315 --> 00:29:20,335
How does this work, right?

892
00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:21,205
Dallas Burnett: leading a team?

893
00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:21,925
Andrew Wittman: It leads the team.

894
00:29:21,925 --> 00:29:24,415
You're gonna hear the voice
of resistance in your head.

895
00:29:24,415 --> 00:29:25,465
That won't work.

896
00:29:25,795 --> 00:29:27,085
That's impossible.

897
00:29:27,235 --> 00:29:28,525
That's crazy talk.

898
00:29:28,525 --> 00:29:30,595
You can't do that when you
hear, 'cause you're all hear it.

899
00:29:31,285 --> 00:29:32,665
It might be even when
you're leading the team.

900
00:29:32,665 --> 00:29:33,835
and it's as great as a leader.

901
00:29:34,015 --> 00:29:37,345
When my team says we can't do it, or I
call 'em the America cans, we're gonna

902
00:29:37,345 --> 00:29:40,075
tell you all the things we can't do, not
the Americans, all the things we can't do.

903
00:29:40,225 --> 00:29:41,215
I'm gonna be like, no, I get it.

904
00:29:41,215 --> 00:29:41,905
I'm not arguing.

905
00:29:41,905 --> 00:29:42,925
This is impossible.

906
00:29:42,925 --> 00:29:44,275
I'm asking the impossible.

907
00:29:44,275 --> 00:29:44,935
I'm not arguing that.

908
00:29:45,235 --> 00:29:47,965
But if it were possible, all
I'm asking you to do for two

909
00:29:47,965 --> 00:29:49,345
minutes, just play along with me.

910
00:29:49,345 --> 00:29:50,215
Suspend your disbelief.

911
00:29:50,395 --> 00:29:53,005
If it were possible, how do
you guys think we would do it?

912
00:29:53,010 --> 00:29:53,819
Dallas Burnett: Wow.

913
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:54,539
I love that.

914
00:29:54,539 --> 00:29:55,319
It just opens

915
00:29:55,484 --> 00:29:55,694
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

916
00:29:55,709 --> 00:29:57,149
Dallas Burnett: all kind of possibilities.

917
00:29:57,194 --> 00:29:58,544
Andrew Wittman: because
the brain, you given

918
00:29:58,679 --> 00:29:59,099
Dallas Burnett: out the

919
00:29:59,174 --> 00:30:01,604
Andrew Wittman: yeah, you given the
brain permission to go find the answer.

920
00:30:01,844 --> 00:30:02,804
And it could be crazy.

921
00:30:02,864 --> 00:30:04,664
We're just brain, we're just
brainstorming, what do we call it?

922
00:30:04,664 --> 00:30:05,324
Storming, right?

923
00:30:05,594 --> 00:30:06,734
I don't care if it's crazy.

924
00:30:06,734 --> 00:30:07,004
Talk.

925
00:30:07,004 --> 00:30:07,604
Just say what it is.

926
00:30:07,844 --> 00:30:10,514
And I'm telling you without that, when
you ask that question, you give the

927
00:30:10,604 --> 00:30:15,734
human brain permission to find the answer
and bypasses the voice of resistance.

928
00:30:15,734 --> 00:30:18,984
You'll have 15 solutions,
within like three minutes.

929
00:30:19,054 --> 00:30:21,604
if you're having a team, everyone
will come up with something and

930
00:30:21,604 --> 00:30:24,374
then you could start putting them
together, and winning them down.

931
00:30:24,374 --> 00:30:27,339
Dallas Burnett: I love that idea
because it is so true that there's

932
00:30:27,339 --> 00:30:30,349
always something that you get
stuck on or you get hung up on.

933
00:30:30,349 --> 00:30:34,979
We have these, worries or anxieties and
I think that it's natural, a natural

934
00:30:34,979 --> 00:30:40,799
tendency for people to, the pendulum to
swing too far to the, to what you said,

935
00:30:40,829 --> 00:30:42,749
the I cancer, that's this not gonna work.

936
00:30:42,755 --> 00:30:44,405
And I, I do think it's so funny.

937
00:30:44,405 --> 00:30:48,135
You just have to give yourself
permission, to suspend that unbelief.

938
00:30:48,135 --> 00:30:52,042
I think, and we talk about that in
terms of, as a leader, it's important

939
00:30:52,042 --> 00:30:54,262
that we battle for people's beliefs.

940
00:30:54,262 --> 00:30:59,362
if I'm leading a team, I'm constantly
doing things to try to shape

941
00:30:59,362 --> 00:31:01,132
that belief, to try to guide that

942
00:31:01,222 --> 00:31:01,492
Andrew Wittman: Right.

943
00:31:01,552 --> 00:31:03,532
Dallas Burnett: because that
belief is gonna drive action.

944
00:31:03,742 --> 00:31:05,902
And so I think that's a fantastic tool.

945
00:31:05,902 --> 00:31:06,172
One of the

946
00:31:06,322 --> 00:31:06,592
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

947
00:31:06,652 --> 00:31:08,492
Dallas Burnett: battle for
belief is just suspend the

948
00:31:08,702 --> 00:31:09,122
Andrew Wittman: Yes.

949
00:31:09,632 --> 00:31:11,342
Because that really is a
belief that we can't do it.

950
00:31:11,342 --> 00:31:12,032
It's actually a belief.

951
00:31:12,032 --> 00:31:15,342
So what I'm doing is just backdooring
it, there's a, if you say we can't do

952
00:31:15,342 --> 00:31:16,752
it, or that's impossible or it's hard.

953
00:31:16,782 --> 00:31:17,082
Okay?

954
00:31:17,082 --> 00:31:17,412
It's hard.

955
00:31:17,412 --> 00:31:18,882
So what I. And

956
00:31:19,212 --> 00:31:19,722
Ed.

957
00:31:19,812 --> 00:31:20,052
Dallas Burnett: that's

958
00:31:20,262 --> 00:31:20,532
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

959
00:31:20,532 --> 00:31:20,892
You know what I mean?

960
00:31:20,892 --> 00:31:24,487
So that's just, that's, so that's the
one thing you could do, like immediately,

961
00:31:24,487 --> 00:31:27,717
the two minute rule, it'll, it'll
revolutionize how you every problem.

962
00:31:27,717 --> 00:31:30,452
'cause as soon as you hear the voice of
resistance, no matter what it is, whether

963
00:31:30,452 --> 00:31:34,297
it's, I can't lose weight or I can't
get up early, oh, I gotta get up at 4:00

964
00:31:34,297 --> 00:31:37,452
AM I gotta set 14 alarms, No, I agree.

965
00:31:37,452 --> 00:31:37,872
You do.

966
00:31:37,872 --> 00:31:40,092
But if you didn't, if you
could just get on a bed and be

967
00:31:40,092 --> 00:31:41,411
energized, how would you do it?

968
00:31:41,413 --> 00:31:42,193
Dallas Burnett: That's right.

969
00:31:42,433 --> 00:31:42,853
That's right.

970
00:31:42,853 --> 00:31:43,633
How would you do it?

971
00:31:43,903 --> 00:31:46,873
And then it just, for, it forces
you to create a new pathway, a new

972
00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:47,570
Andrew Wittman: No pathway.

973
00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:47,960
Correct.

974
00:31:48,035 --> 00:31:49,535
Dallas Burnett: gotta break
something out, so we're gonna do

975
00:31:49,535 --> 00:31:51,793
something different, How about that?

976
00:31:51,793 --> 00:31:55,406
So when you're thinking about this
resiliency, how much, 'cause you

977
00:31:55,406 --> 00:31:59,846
have a PhD, this kind of a, this
blend of like, you know, the,

978
00:31:59,846 --> 00:32:01,856
this, the soul and the mind kind of

979
00:32:02,046 --> 00:32:02,336
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

980
00:32:02,396 --> 00:32:03,536
Dallas Burnett: theological psychology.

981
00:32:03,536 --> 00:32:05,756
I'm, I've never, honestly, I've
never heard of that degree,

982
00:32:05,876 --> 00:32:07,846
Andrew Wittman: It's not really
the degree is theological studies.

983
00:32:07,846 --> 00:32:10,066
But my master's in divinity
was all psychology.

984
00:32:10,066 --> 00:32:12,646
'cause then when you do your
md it's all counseling, right?

985
00:32:12,646 --> 00:32:14,026
It's massive psychology.

986
00:32:14,416 --> 00:32:17,256
So I blended and then my PhD
was, it's theology, right?

987
00:32:17,256 --> 00:32:19,656
So I'm, but it's this,
theology is the study of God.

988
00:32:19,656 --> 00:32:21,126
Psychology is the study of the soul.

989
00:32:21,126 --> 00:32:23,016
It's very interconnected, right?

990
00:32:23,016 --> 00:32:24,036
but how do we bridge the gap?

991
00:32:24,036 --> 00:32:25,626
Well, the thing that's
the, what's the thing?

992
00:32:25,626 --> 00:32:27,906
The one piece is missionary is
like not your spirit, not your

993
00:32:27,906 --> 00:32:29,226
soul, but your body bios, right?

994
00:32:29,226 --> 00:32:32,256
So in, in the, this is the, I'll
just give you a quick theology.

995
00:32:32,256 --> 00:32:34,866
The, in the Greek New Testament,
there's three words for life.

996
00:32:35,226 --> 00:32:36,816
In the English bio, it all says life.

997
00:32:36,816 --> 00:32:38,676
One is bios, which is biology.

998
00:32:39,096 --> 00:32:40,416
Natural life, right?

999
00:32:40,416 --> 00:32:43,686
One is que, which is your soul psychology.

1000
00:32:43,686 --> 00:32:44,496
That's where we get the word.

1001
00:32:44,496 --> 00:32:46,626
And then Zoe, which is the eternal life.

1002
00:32:46,626 --> 00:32:48,246
Perpetual life, the life that God has.

1003
00:32:48,246 --> 00:32:50,676
It's the one you get born again,
then your spirit's alive under God.

1004
00:32:50,676 --> 00:32:53,916
Now you're a three part being like
God was, God made Adam, and then when

1005
00:32:53,916 --> 00:32:55,296
he died, his spirit died, your two.

1006
00:32:55,296 --> 00:32:55,476
Right?

1007
00:32:55,476 --> 00:32:56,886
So, so here's the three parts.

1008
00:32:56,916 --> 00:32:58,476
We are know, it's spirit, soul, and body.

1009
00:32:58,836 --> 00:33:00,696
but the thing is the, and Jesus said this.

1010
00:33:00,696 --> 00:33:03,876
He said, look, the spirit is willing
to be in charge, but the flesh is what?

1011
00:33:03,892 --> 00:33:04,402
Weak,

1012
00:33:04,612 --> 00:33:04,902
Dallas Burnett: Yeah.

1013
00:33:05,012 --> 00:33:05,542
That week.

1014
00:33:05,632 --> 00:33:05,902
Andrew Wittman: right?

1015
00:33:05,902 --> 00:33:08,782
So the body is the easiest
part of us to dominate.

1016
00:33:08,782 --> 00:33:10,522
So that's began, that's what I
had to do in the Marine Corps.

1017
00:33:10,522 --> 00:33:13,582
I had to dominate my body first before I
could get my mind and emotions on board.

1018
00:33:13,732 --> 00:33:15,772
That's the whole soul is
your mind will and emotions.

1019
00:33:15,784 --> 00:33:18,029
So if you can't dominate your body,
you think you're gonna dominate

1020
00:33:18,029 --> 00:33:21,274
your angry outbursts or your, if
you can't do the easy one, you're

1021
00:33:21,274 --> 00:33:22,414
not gonna do the hard one mind.

1022
00:33:22,564 --> 00:33:24,574
So that's where this whole
blend came together and.

1023
00:33:24,934 --> 00:33:26,284
It's really been my obsession, right?

1024
00:33:26,284 --> 00:33:29,374
That's why if you ever see like a speaker
or coach, our obsession is the thing

1025
00:33:29,374 --> 00:33:30,454
that we have the most problems with.

1026
00:33:30,454 --> 00:33:32,184
That's what our content is, right?

1027
00:33:32,184 --> 00:33:34,134
So that's all I'm doing
is just is for me, right?

1028
00:33:34,134 --> 00:33:37,104
I'm doing all this for me to
overcome this stuff, and if

1029
00:33:37,104 --> 00:33:38,274
it helps somebody else, great.

1030
00:33:38,674 --> 00:33:39,275
and that's what I wanna do,

1031
00:33:39,385 --> 00:33:40,585
Dallas Burnett: I think
that's so true though.

1032
00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:43,954
and you do hear that with, I write
a book, it's always something

1033
00:33:43,954 --> 00:33:47,194
that I'm trying to wrestle through
and I'm like, I need to do this.

1034
00:33:47,194 --> 00:33:50,154
And it's, yes, I can put a book out,
but it's really, I need this for

1035
00:33:50,324 --> 00:33:50,674
Andrew Wittman: right?

1036
00:33:50,814 --> 00:33:51,294
Dallas Burnett: true.

1037
00:33:51,654 --> 00:33:55,774
'cause I feel like when you engage
in the struggle around anything, you

1038
00:33:55,774 --> 00:34:01,774
find more truth in the struggle and in
that perseverance and that endurance

1039
00:34:01,774 --> 00:34:04,164
through it's truth that becomes real.

1040
00:34:04,749 --> 00:34:08,289
It's that, that you literally, that
struggle and that suffering shapes who

1041
00:34:08,289 --> 00:34:11,079
you are and it builds that truth into you.

1042
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:12,849
Instead of it being like in your head,

1043
00:34:12,864 --> 00:34:13,214
Andrew Wittman: Right,

1044
00:34:13,242 --> 00:34:14,442
Dallas Burnett: no, it's deep.

1045
00:34:14,502 --> 00:34:14,712
It

1046
00:34:14,897 --> 00:34:15,247
Andrew Wittman: right.

1047
00:34:15,402 --> 00:34:15,882
Dallas Burnett: in me.

1048
00:34:15,882 --> 00:34:17,082
It's who I am

1049
00:34:17,442 --> 00:34:17,742
Andrew Wittman: Right.

1050
00:34:17,892 --> 00:34:18,462
Dallas Burnett: gone through

1051
00:34:18,567 --> 00:34:19,017
Andrew Wittman: Correct.

1052
00:34:19,782 --> 00:34:20,352
Dallas Burnett: I think it's so

1053
00:34:20,577 --> 00:34:20,997
Andrew Wittman: Right.

1054
00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:23,162
Dallas Burnett: And you talk a little
bit about motivation and I think this

1055
00:34:23,162 --> 00:34:26,462
is a good spot for, 'cause you've
talked about how your team needs this,

1056
00:34:26,542 --> 00:34:31,217
tactical, emotional armor and instead
of motivation, and you've talked about

1057
00:34:31,487 --> 00:34:34,760
really training yourself and your
body, what's the difference between

1058
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,420
kind of relying on this motivation to
whatever, get up in the morning and

1059
00:34:38,420 --> 00:34:42,650
whatever, or building a system, for
resilience that like teams can depend

1060
00:34:42,815 --> 00:34:43,085
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1061
00:34:43,085 --> 00:34:46,505
So this, you know, we all are,
humans are creatures of habit.

1062
00:34:46,505 --> 00:34:47,225
We all know that.

1063
00:34:47,698 --> 00:34:49,738
And people will say, I
would do one on the podium.

1064
00:34:49,738 --> 00:34:51,538
I ask people, I do a two day training.

1065
00:34:51,538 --> 00:34:53,338
I'm like, how long does
it take to make a habit?

1066
00:34:53,518 --> 00:34:55,438
And they're like, 21 days or whatever.

1067
00:34:55,438 --> 00:34:56,068
I'm like, Nope.

1068
00:34:56,128 --> 00:34:57,288
It takes one time.

1069
00:34:57,558 --> 00:34:59,868
As soon as you're comfortable with
something, you're going to, I said,

1070
00:34:59,868 --> 00:35:01,398
where's everybody gonna sit tomorrow?

1071
00:35:01,398 --> 00:35:03,648
When they come in to training
tomorrow, you're gonna sit in the

1072
00:35:03,648 --> 00:35:05,118
same seat that you work, right?

1073
00:35:05,118 --> 00:35:07,548
And they'll let somebody be in
your parking spot at work, even

1074
00:35:07,548 --> 00:35:08,538
though your name isn't on it.

1075
00:35:08,568 --> 00:35:09,918
Why are they parking in my spot?

1076
00:35:09,918 --> 00:35:11,538
Or they're the lunch table.

1077
00:35:11,538 --> 00:35:12,258
That's my spot.

1078
00:35:12,258 --> 00:35:12,498
Right?

1079
00:35:12,768 --> 00:35:15,768
So a habit is as soon as we
become comfortable with something,

1080
00:35:16,068 --> 00:35:17,358
now it's becomes our habit.

1081
00:35:17,358 --> 00:35:18,893
and, the way the brain works.

1082
00:35:19,103 --> 00:35:23,563
we take in, 11 million bits of information
per second, but only 126 bits goes to

1083
00:35:23,563 --> 00:35:24,943
our conscious mind for action, right?

1084
00:35:24,943 --> 00:35:26,413
So how do we pick the 1 26?

1085
00:35:27,013 --> 00:35:28,783
is the filter of our
beliefs and our attitudes.

1086
00:35:28,783 --> 00:35:32,473
But what I'm interested in is that
99% of the space of the brain, that's

1087
00:35:32,473 --> 00:35:34,803
not conscious, we are on autopilot.

1088
00:35:34,803 --> 00:35:37,713
Your brain is making, your heart is
pumping, you know you're breathing.

1089
00:35:37,713 --> 00:35:40,783
It's all outside your consciousness
because you've had these habits, that

1090
00:35:40,783 --> 00:35:42,133
you said, and you're on autopilot.

1091
00:35:42,133 --> 00:35:46,423
So what I wanna do is set these systems
in place so that by habit, like I

1092
00:35:46,423 --> 00:35:50,203
work out every day because that's
what I did in the Marine Corps, right?

1093
00:35:50,473 --> 00:35:51,854
and that's what we do.

1094
00:35:52,098 --> 00:35:53,598
I don't even know what
to do, to not do it.

1095
00:35:53,598 --> 00:35:55,218
And on day rest it's like impossible.

1096
00:35:55,218 --> 00:35:56,328
I'm like, what am I doing?

1097
00:35:56,328 --> 00:35:57,708
I'm like, I have to do something.

1098
00:35:57,758 --> 00:36:00,068
because you have a habit and your
body's that's not what we do.

1099
00:36:00,068 --> 00:36:00,998
I have a puppy, right?

1100
00:36:00,998 --> 00:36:02,378
And puppies are like the same thing.

1101
00:36:02,378 --> 00:36:03,428
He knows what the routine is.

1102
00:36:04,038 --> 00:36:08,058
If I get a treat every time you clean
my ears, then I'm, as soon as you come

1103
00:36:08,058 --> 00:36:09,588
clean my ears, would you clean my ears?

1104
00:36:09,588 --> 00:36:10,578
Because I know I'm gonna get a treat here.

1105
00:36:10,968 --> 00:36:11,508
So that's what I'm,

1106
00:36:11,673 --> 00:36:12,033
Dallas Burnett: right.

1107
00:36:12,048 --> 00:36:12,858
Andrew Wittman: not motivation.

1108
00:36:12,858 --> 00:36:14,418
He's operating on the system.

1109
00:36:14,728 --> 00:36:17,568
And that's what I wanna do with my
teams is get Hey look, you guys get a

1110
00:36:17,568 --> 00:36:18,978
treat every time we clean your ears.

1111
00:36:18,978 --> 00:36:20,148
Go, can I clean my ears?

1112
00:36:20,153 --> 00:36:21,258
'cause I want to get the treat right.

1113
00:36:21,258 --> 00:36:22,518
So I'm not motivating you.

1114
00:36:22,518 --> 00:36:23,808
Like we gotta get this done.

1115
00:36:23,808 --> 00:36:27,078
And I'm not giving the, the Mel
Gibson speech and Braveheart

1116
00:36:27,078 --> 00:36:28,368
to get you to go into battle.

1117
00:36:28,368 --> 00:36:30,798
And I mean, there might be a time
and a place for that, but that's

1118
00:36:30,798 --> 00:36:31,908
not an everyday thing, right?

1119
00:36:31,908 --> 00:36:33,228
I don't wanna rely on that.

1120
00:36:33,678 --> 00:36:37,618
Dallas Burnett: I love that a hundred
percent because I, it reminds me of, Do

1121
00:36:37,618 --> 00:36:41,538
Higgs book on habits, and then there's
Atomic Habits, that everybody's, read by.

1122
00:36:41,818 --> 00:36:44,608
oh man, I, the author slipped the
process essentially is, there's

1123
00:36:44,608 --> 00:36:47,858
a, there's some type of a trigger,
like you have this conference and

1124
00:36:47,858 --> 00:36:49,748
you're going in the conference
room, you gotta find a place to sit.

1125
00:36:49,748 --> 00:36:50,468
And that's the trigger I've

1126
00:36:50,683 --> 00:36:50,973
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1127
00:36:51,068 --> 00:36:53,138
Dallas Burnett: then there's
the act of sitting in the seat.

1128
00:36:53,618 --> 00:36:55,418
And then the reason is there's a reward.

1129
00:36:55,418 --> 00:36:58,718
And the reward is that you don't have
to worry about where you're gonna sit.

1130
00:36:58,718 --> 00:36:58,838
If

1131
00:36:58,853 --> 00:36:58,933
Andrew Wittman: Hmm.

1132
00:36:59,233 --> 00:37:00,038
That's so good.

1133
00:37:00,248 --> 00:37:00,548
Dallas Burnett: place.

1134
00:37:00,548 --> 00:37:01,478
There's comfort,

1135
00:37:01,658 --> 00:37:02,018
Andrew Wittman: Right.

1136
00:37:02,708 --> 00:37:04,628
Dallas Burnett: And so what you're
saying is that like with your dog,

1137
00:37:04,628 --> 00:37:07,238
your puppy's ears, if you let me
clean your ears, there's the trigger.

1138
00:37:07,238 --> 00:37:08,348
Hey, you've got dirty ears.

1139
00:37:08,348 --> 00:37:09,268
I'm coming to clean it.

1140
00:37:09,268 --> 00:37:12,928
And then the actual cleaning, and
then the reward, which is the treat.

1141
00:37:13,373 --> 00:37:13,663
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1142
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,000
Dallas Burnett: we're very
engaged in that process.

1143
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,080
Even though we are not thinking
about it, we're moving towards

1144
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,400
things that make our life

1145
00:37:20,670 --> 00:37:21,090
Andrew Wittman: Yes.

1146
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,000
Dallas Burnett: We, at
least we perceive, or

1147
00:37:23,090 --> 00:37:23,780
Andrew Wittman: Better, right?

1148
00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:24,530
More comfortable.

1149
00:37:24,530 --> 00:37:25,040
that's the word

1150
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:25,910
Dallas Burnett: Or comfortable.

1151
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,870
Yeah, more comfortable.

1152
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:30,740
And so I think what you're, to your
point is when we can build systems

1153
00:37:30,740 --> 00:37:37,581
with our teams that make rewards,
make resilience part of the reward,

1154
00:37:37,631 --> 00:37:38,951
I think that's really meaningful and

1155
00:37:39,026 --> 00:37:39,376
Andrew Wittman: right?

1156
00:37:39,524 --> 00:37:40,754
Dallas Burnett: it's like
the working out thing.

1157
00:37:40,784 --> 00:37:41,384
Like if I'm.

1158
00:37:42,149 --> 00:37:46,469
I wasn't in the military and I didn't
get, you know, have a habit of working

1159
00:37:46,469 --> 00:37:51,839
out, what are the things, what are the
systems that I can put in place to allow

1160
00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:55,829
me to work out where there is something
at the end where it makes me, it's either,

1161
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:59,399
the endorphin release or if it's man,
I get myself my favorite smoothie at

1162
00:37:59,549 --> 00:37:59,899
Andrew Wittman: Right?

1163
00:37:59,969 --> 00:38:03,569
Dallas Burnett: Or I allow myself to watch
an extra half an hour of, Netflix if I

1164
00:38:03,674 --> 00:38:03,824
Andrew Wittman: Yep.

1165
00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:05,279
Dallas Burnett: my
workout, whatever that is.

1166
00:38:05,279 --> 00:38:05,579
Right.

1167
00:38:05,579 --> 00:38:06,269
Is that kinda what you're

1168
00:38:06,344 --> 00:38:08,174
Andrew Wittman: Yeah, so
always reward good behavior.

1169
00:38:08,174 --> 00:38:10,724
And this is how when I raise
my kids, and a lot of times

1170
00:38:10,724 --> 00:38:11,894
we don't reward good behavior.

1171
00:38:11,894 --> 00:38:14,894
We just yell at the bad behavior, or
we punish bad behavior or correct.

1172
00:38:15,104 --> 00:38:16,274
I don't care about the bad behavior.

1173
00:38:16,274 --> 00:38:19,604
If I reward enough good behavior,
like I'm not even gonna acknowledge,

1174
00:38:19,864 --> 00:38:22,514
if the team is being, 'cause
here's what we know in psychology.

1175
00:38:22,514 --> 00:38:23,414
Here's my psychology, right?

1176
00:38:24,204 --> 00:38:27,144
if I point something out, don't think of
a pink elephant, what did you just do?

1177
00:38:28,654 --> 00:38:29,104
Dallas Burnett: You got it.

1178
00:38:29,127 --> 00:38:29,277
you're

1179
00:38:29,352 --> 00:38:31,092
Andrew Wittman: I'm not gonna be
like, Hey man, it's hot in here.

1180
00:38:31,142 --> 00:38:33,452
Like I'd be on the stage and
it's a million degrees out.

1181
00:38:33,452 --> 00:38:34,022
I'm sweating.

1182
00:38:34,022 --> 00:38:35,552
I'm not gonna be like, is it hot in here?

1183
00:38:35,672 --> 00:38:37,412
Because now I've just drew
everybody's attention to it.

1184
00:38:37,742 --> 00:38:38,942
I'm not even gonna talk about it.

1185
00:38:38,942 --> 00:38:40,322
So it's same thing with the team.

1186
00:38:40,322 --> 00:38:42,872
Are you guys are all dismotivated,
nobody has good communication.

1187
00:38:42,872 --> 00:38:45,512
Why are you just, you're just
running us down the wrong path, man.

1188
00:38:45,674 --> 00:38:45,964
Dallas Burnett: sure.

1189
00:38:46,219 --> 00:38:48,349
Andrew Wittman: the neurons that
fire together wire together, you're

1190
00:38:48,349 --> 00:38:49,909
wiring us down the wrong path.

1191
00:38:49,909 --> 00:38:52,069
So I'm gonna always reward good behavior.

1192
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:56,299
So I want that neuron to fire that
group of neurons to fire together again.

1193
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,709
So that every time we go down this
path, I know it's good until I, and

1194
00:39:00,709 --> 00:39:01,999
eventually you don't even need the reward.

1195
00:39:01,999 --> 00:39:03,499
Because now I've, that's what we do.

1196
00:39:03,499 --> 00:39:04,309
It's my circuit.

1197
00:39:04,314 --> 00:39:05,004
That's my business.

1198
00:39:05,114 --> 00:39:05,404
Yeah.

1199
00:39:05,569 --> 00:39:06,859
Dallas Burnett: it's my
identity at that point.

1200
00:39:06,904 --> 00:39:07,124
Andrew Wittman: You

1201
00:39:07,292 --> 00:39:07,532
Dallas Burnett: it's,

1202
00:39:07,712 --> 00:39:08,342
Andrew Wittman: that's the process,

1203
00:39:08,402 --> 00:39:09,722
Dallas Burnett: feel
strange if I don't do it.

1204
00:39:09,842 --> 00:39:10,382
Andrew Wittman: Correct?

1205
00:39:10,412 --> 00:39:11,522
Dallas Burnett: also, I love that.

1206
00:39:11,522 --> 00:39:13,052
I like not pointing out.

1207
00:39:13,757 --> 00:39:16,337
If you're speaking in a room
that's really hot, like just, it's

1208
00:39:16,337 --> 00:39:18,947
a non-issue that, because you're
not drawing attention to it.

1209
00:39:19,337 --> 00:39:22,637
I don't know the trick this was, because
you're Clemson, you're, you've worked with

1210
00:39:22,682 --> 00:39:23,012
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1211
00:39:23,027 --> 00:39:24,187
Dallas Burnett: team during their glory

1212
00:39:24,352 --> 00:39:24,682
Andrew Wittman: Yes,

1213
00:39:24,697 --> 00:39:25,237
Dallas Burnett: when they were in

1214
00:39:25,252 --> 00:39:25,792
Andrew Wittman: I did.

1215
00:39:26,062 --> 00:39:26,662
Yes,

1216
00:39:27,007 --> 00:39:27,697
Dallas Burnett: which is amazing.

1217
00:39:27,697 --> 00:39:28,687
You're like, you're everywhere.

1218
00:39:28,717 --> 00:39:29,917
Like you're everywhere, man.

1219
00:39:29,917 --> 00:39:31,267
You're all over the world.

1220
00:39:31,417 --> 00:39:32,932
Even, even college football,

1221
00:39:33,007 --> 00:39:33,997
Andrew Wittman: I have college football.

1222
00:39:33,997 --> 00:39:34,627
I loved it, man.

1223
00:39:34,987 --> 00:39:36,157
I, that was, it was so much fun.

1224
00:39:36,157 --> 00:39:38,947
You know, I had a show on
the Roar too, on 1 0 5 5.

1225
00:39:38,947 --> 00:39:39,747
I was, yeah.

1226
00:39:39,972 --> 00:39:40,362
Dallas Burnett: Look at

1227
00:39:40,497 --> 00:39:42,237
Andrew Wittman: I used to be on
Out of Bounds, like KK used to

1228
00:39:42,237 --> 00:39:44,457
bring me on when it was KK and
Dutch, and then I still Dutch.

1229
00:39:44,457 --> 00:39:46,077
And then we did the
Get Warrior Tough show.

1230
00:39:46,077 --> 00:39:46,977
It was Andrew and Dutch.

1231
00:39:47,007 --> 00:39:47,247
Yeah.

1232
00:39:47,397 --> 00:39:48,567
Dallas Burnett: Oh wow.

1233
00:39:48,567 --> 00:39:48,777
That's

1234
00:39:49,047 --> 00:39:49,467
Andrew Wittman: Yeah, babe.

1235
00:39:49,557 --> 00:39:50,547
Dallas Burnett: heard
you on the radio then.

1236
00:39:50,557 --> 00:39:53,937
but to your point, like one of the things
I heard, one of their, I guess it was

1237
00:39:53,937 --> 00:39:56,757
their strength coach, say one time I heard
him talking at a luncheon or whatever

1238
00:39:56,757 --> 00:39:59,722
event, and he said, we tell our guys that.

1239
00:40:00,327 --> 00:40:04,217
If you come here and you're, coming into
this training in the summer, we don't

1240
00:40:04,217 --> 00:40:05,957
say that it's hot or it's cold, whatever.

1241
00:40:05,957 --> 00:40:06,707
We don't say it's hard.

1242
00:40:06,737 --> 00:40:07,037
We say

1243
00:40:07,112 --> 00:40:07,532
Andrew Wittman: Mm-hmm.

1244
00:40:07,747 --> 00:40:08,097
Right?

1245
00:40:08,192 --> 00:40:08,432
Dallas Burnett: hot.

1246
00:40:08,562 --> 00:40:11,382
we like it when it's absolutely a
hundred degrees and you're sweating it.

1247
00:40:11,472 --> 00:40:11,922
Andrew Wittman: Yes.

1248
00:40:11,922 --> 00:40:12,852
Dallas Burnett: we are thriving

1249
00:40:12,912 --> 00:40:13,512
Andrew Wittman: Yes.

1250
00:40:13,542 --> 00:40:14,022
Dallas Burnett: going.

1251
00:40:14,232 --> 00:40:14,352
Andrew Wittman: it.

1252
00:40:14,352 --> 00:40:17,112
Dallas Burnett: And what I've
found, I know was just sitting

1253
00:40:17,112 --> 00:40:20,142
there and it just, I know everybody
else is like enjoying their salad.

1254
00:40:20,142 --> 00:40:22,172
I'm sitting there just blown away.

1255
00:40:22,172 --> 00:40:24,002
'cause I'm like, this guy's just dropped

1256
00:40:24,257 --> 00:40:25,187
Andrew Wittman: Massive.

1257
00:40:25,442 --> 00:40:29,492
Dallas Burnett: out a way to
tell someone that the reward is

1258
00:40:29,492 --> 00:40:31,292
actually the thing that they hate.

1259
00:40:31,357 --> 00:40:31,577
Andrew Wittman: Yes.

1260
00:40:31,617 --> 00:40:33,537
Dallas Burnett: you
hate getting up earlier.

1261
00:40:33,537 --> 00:40:35,787
Maybe you hate going out
and sweating all day.

1262
00:40:35,877 --> 00:40:38,907
And he just took that and flipped
it on his head and said, no,

1263
00:40:39,162 --> 00:40:39,672
Andrew Wittman: I love that.

1264
00:40:40,017 --> 00:40:41,037
Dallas Burnett: is what we love

1265
00:40:41,052 --> 00:40:41,472
Andrew Wittman: Right.

1266
00:40:41,757 --> 00:40:42,597
Dallas Burnett: it when it's displayed.

1267
00:40:42,612 --> 00:40:43,572
Andrew Wittman: A hundred percent, dude.

1268
00:40:43,767 --> 00:40:46,017
Dallas Burnett: man, that's a mental
circus that I wanna be a part of that.

1269
00:40:46,017 --> 00:40:47,277
Andrew Wittman: that's what you have
to do, is you just have to force

1270
00:40:47,277 --> 00:40:48,597
yourself to change your self-talk.

1271
00:40:48,597 --> 00:40:50,797
So that's what I was a fat
kid, I went to bootcamp.

1272
00:40:50,797 --> 00:40:53,467
I hated running more than anything
else in the world except more running.

1273
00:40:53,467 --> 00:40:54,397
What do you do in bootcamp?

1274
00:40:54,602 --> 00:40:55,052
You run.

1275
00:40:55,412 --> 00:40:57,932
So instead of saying, running was my
enemy, I had to make running my friend.

1276
00:40:57,932 --> 00:40:59,252
And then I was like, I love running.

1277
00:40:59,252 --> 00:41:00,932
And then I'm like, I'm
an ultra marathoner.

1278
00:41:01,322 --> 00:41:02,492
You're like, dude, you're fat.

1279
00:41:02,492 --> 00:41:03,722
You can't even run a quarter mile.

1280
00:41:03,722 --> 00:41:04,622
I'm an ultra marathoner.

1281
00:41:04,672 --> 00:41:06,052
I'm saying where I want to go.

1282
00:41:06,052 --> 00:41:08,602
I'm telling you what my target
is, not what my target isn't.

1283
00:41:08,602 --> 00:41:09,412
Saying your self-talk.

1284
00:41:09,412 --> 00:41:11,842
What that guy said, the straight
trainer is, he's changing your

1285
00:41:11,842 --> 00:41:15,132
target by changing your, because
there is a mind to mouth connection

1286
00:41:15,832 --> 00:41:18,622
and I can override my mind with my mouth.

1287
00:41:19,087 --> 00:41:19,777
wanna do an experiment?

1288
00:41:19,777 --> 00:41:20,197
See if I'm right.

1289
00:41:20,257 --> 00:41:20,767
That'd be fun.

1290
00:41:21,472 --> 00:41:21,712
Dallas Burnett: Let's

1291
00:41:21,847 --> 00:41:22,117
Andrew Wittman: Okay.

1292
00:41:22,117 --> 00:41:22,297
All right.

1293
00:41:22,507 --> 00:41:25,027
Now in your mind, I want you to
start counting backwards from

1294
00:41:25,027 --> 00:41:26,737
a thousand just in your mind.

1295
00:41:26,827 --> 00:41:30,427
9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 8. Oh, you
got count going now out loud.

1296
00:41:30,427 --> 00:41:31,297
I want you to say your name.

1297
00:41:31,297 --> 00:41:31,777
Say your name.

1298
00:41:33,817 --> 00:41:34,447
Say it Alice.

1299
00:41:34,492 --> 00:41:34,912
Dallas Burnett: Dallas.

1300
00:41:34,987 --> 00:41:35,257
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1301
00:41:35,332 --> 00:41:35,902
Dallas Burnett: Dallas Burn.

1302
00:41:35,917 --> 00:41:36,157
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1303
00:41:36,367 --> 00:41:37,417
Where, what happened to the count?

1304
00:41:37,904 --> 00:41:38,504
Dallas Burnett: it's gone

1305
00:41:38,577 --> 00:41:38,997
Andrew Wittman: stopped.

1306
00:41:39,267 --> 00:41:41,157
I don't know where you were or
you weren't, but it stopped.

1307
00:41:41,157 --> 00:41:42,747
You stopped that thought process.

1308
00:41:42,747 --> 00:41:45,297
So that's what I'm gonna do, is I'm
gonna force myself to say things.

1309
00:41:45,297 --> 00:41:48,417
It stopped that circuit that is
putting me in the wrong direction.

1310
00:41:48,747 --> 00:41:49,497
Does that make sense?

1311
00:41:49,647 --> 00:41:50,157
Dallas Burnett: No,

1312
00:41:50,217 --> 00:41:50,817
Andrew Wittman: why I love it.

1313
00:41:51,057 --> 00:41:51,447
Hot out.

1314
00:41:51,447 --> 00:41:53,277
Of course, I love the heat,
but it, that's freezing.

1315
00:41:53,277 --> 00:41:54,507
I love it when it's cold out.

1316
00:41:55,242 --> 00:41:55,532
Dallas Burnett: Yeah.

1317
00:41:55,797 --> 00:41:56,367
Andrew Wittman: See what I'm saying?

1318
00:41:56,367 --> 00:41:57,387
I'm gonna a Right,

1319
00:41:57,657 --> 00:41:59,217
Dallas Burnett: You can't think,
yeah, you, yeah, you can't think

1320
00:41:59,217 --> 00:42:00,507
you don't like it when you're saying

1321
00:42:00,627 --> 00:42:00,927
Andrew Wittman: right.

1322
00:42:00,942 --> 00:42:01,092
Dallas Burnett: you

1323
00:42:01,212 --> 00:42:01,692
Andrew Wittman: Correct.

1324
00:42:01,842 --> 00:42:02,952
Dallas Burnett: those
two thoughts at the same

1325
00:42:03,222 --> 00:42:03,852
Andrew Wittman: Absolutely.

1326
00:42:03,852 --> 00:42:07,632
So I'm tricking myself with the right,
I'm tricking myself with my mouth, right?

1327
00:42:07,632 --> 00:42:10,312
So that's what, that's the
science behind why we do these

1328
00:42:10,342 --> 00:42:11,512
quote affirmations or whatever.

1329
00:42:11,512 --> 00:42:12,232
But I don't want cheese.

1330
00:42:12,262 --> 00:42:13,942
I'm want things that actually
help me in real time.

1331
00:42:13,942 --> 00:42:16,522
I'm like, you're so what
is the, from Saturday Live,

1332
00:42:16,522 --> 00:42:17,932
you're special, you're sweet.

1333
00:42:17,932 --> 00:42:19,872
You're like, you remember the John Levits?

1334
00:42:20,307 --> 00:42:20,527
Dallas Burnett: Oh,

1335
00:42:20,772 --> 00:42:21,462
Andrew Wittman: I'm still my age.

1336
00:42:21,462 --> 00:42:22,632
But anyway, yeah.

1337
00:42:22,662 --> 00:42:23,982
it's not just like I love me.

1338
00:42:23,982 --> 00:42:25,482
I'm like, Hey man, I love that.

1339
00:42:25,482 --> 00:42:27,762
I, so I, my, my daughter Michaela, right?

1340
00:42:27,762 --> 00:42:30,242
She was, in first grade or whatever,
and of course, in South Carolina,

1341
00:42:30,242 --> 00:42:31,412
you know, girls don't do math.

1342
00:42:31,622 --> 00:42:34,717
they come sorority girls,
man, you don't do math.

1343
00:42:34,987 --> 00:42:35,647
Whatcha crazy.

1344
00:42:36,172 --> 00:42:38,247
you become a wife at stuff, right?

1345
00:42:38,322 --> 00:42:38,532
Dallas Burnett: That's

1346
00:42:38,757 --> 00:42:39,657
Andrew Wittman: It's true, right?

1347
00:42:39,657 --> 00:42:41,667
So she came home, she's I
can't do math, math's hard.

1348
00:42:41,667 --> 00:42:42,327
I'm like, Nope.

1349
00:42:42,417 --> 00:42:43,197
I love math.

1350
00:42:43,197 --> 00:42:44,367
Math's the easiest thing in the world.

1351
00:42:44,427 --> 00:42:45,117
I love math.

1352
00:42:45,117 --> 00:42:45,717
I love science.

1353
00:42:46,197 --> 00:42:46,857
So we changed her.

1354
00:42:47,067 --> 00:42:50,427
So she's, she's starting her senior
year down here in Florida at Florida

1355
00:42:50,427 --> 00:42:51,627
Tech as a biomedical engineer.

1356
00:42:51,627 --> 00:42:54,657
But her freshman year, she didn't
even know, but the professor, right?

1357
00:42:54,657 --> 00:42:55,617
They put her in research.

1358
00:42:55,797 --> 00:42:59,037
They got her in an under, graduate
research program as a freshman

1359
00:42:59,457 --> 00:43:02,717
because she tested on the, chemistry
one, oh, whatever, the chemistry,

1360
00:43:02,767 --> 00:43:04,447
standardized test for freshmen, right?

1361
00:43:04,657 --> 00:43:06,637
She was like the top
three in the entire state.

1362
00:43:06,667 --> 00:43:07,772
and she didn't even know it, right?

1363
00:43:07,992 --> 00:43:10,557
but because she now, she, and
she's English is not her bag.

1364
00:43:10,557 --> 00:43:13,782
Like she doesn't, she's hilarious,
but she speaks math and science.

1365
00:43:13,782 --> 00:43:14,802
that's her first language is

1366
00:43:14,884 --> 00:43:15,214
Dallas Burnett: math.

1367
00:43:15,244 --> 00:43:15,604
That's her

1368
00:43:15,859 --> 00:43:16,099
Andrew Wittman: yeah.

1369
00:43:16,189 --> 00:43:17,179
Science and math, right?

1370
00:43:17,179 --> 00:43:20,329
Because we changed what she
thought about it from first grade.

1371
00:43:20,329 --> 00:43:20,719
I'm, it's.

1372
00:43:21,754 --> 00:43:22,354
It's our fault.

1373
00:43:22,384 --> 00:43:25,174
'cause I could have just agreed with her
and been like, yeah, baby math's hard.

1374
00:43:25,174 --> 00:43:26,464
I don't, 'cause I don't do math.

1375
00:43:26,734 --> 00:43:29,164
My, my degree's in theology, I
couldn't write, you know, if it's

1376
00:43:29,164 --> 00:43:31,744
not a, I dunno, what do I know?

1377
00:43:33,484 --> 00:43:33,634
Yeah.

1378
00:43:33,634 --> 00:43:34,114
It's hard.

1379
00:43:34,414 --> 00:43:35,764
That's why I theology

1380
00:43:35,824 --> 00:43:36,569
Dallas Burnett: that's so true.

1381
00:43:36,844 --> 00:43:40,774
I think, but think that's such a great,
that's such a great visual because think

1382
00:43:40,774 --> 00:43:42,964
about this, you're not a math, you're not

1383
00:43:43,054 --> 00:43:43,624
Andrew Wittman: No.

1384
00:43:43,714 --> 00:43:47,664
Dallas Burnett: a math guy, but you're
not allowing her to not have that

1385
00:43:47,664 --> 00:43:49,794
as an opportunity in first grade.

1386
00:43:49,794 --> 00:43:52,074
You're shaping, and again, it
goes back, we were talking about

1387
00:43:52,074 --> 00:43:53,424
earlier, battling for belief.

1388
00:43:53,874 --> 00:43:57,144
You're taking someone, you're, it's
not even your area of expertise.

1389
00:43:57,144 --> 00:44:00,124
If you're leading a team and you've
got somebody over here and you're

1390
00:44:00,124 --> 00:44:03,034
not even in their same level of
expertise, but you're leading that team.

1391
00:44:03,244 --> 00:44:06,994
It's not saying that you can't step
in the gap and battle for that belief

1392
00:44:06,994 --> 00:44:07,234
Andrew Wittman: right.

1393
00:44:07,534 --> 00:44:09,144
Dallas Burnett: no, this is who we are.

1394
00:44:09,144 --> 00:44:10,194
This is what we're doing.

1395
00:44:10,194 --> 00:44:11,454
This is what you are about.

1396
00:44:11,454 --> 00:44:12,924
This is what you are capable of doing.

1397
00:44:12,924 --> 00:44:15,684
And just relentlessly shaping that belief.

1398
00:44:16,024 --> 00:44:18,574
because it, just like what happened
to your daughter, she's, she grows

1399
00:44:18,574 --> 00:44:20,044
up, she speaks math and science.

1400
00:44:20,044 --> 00:44:20,944
That's what she does.

1401
00:44:21,124 --> 00:44:21,994
Andrew Wittman: dunno
if she sell these stuff.

1402
00:44:21,994 --> 00:44:23,284
I'm like, whatcha talking about?

1403
00:44:23,284 --> 00:44:23,794
I dunno.

1404
00:44:24,394 --> 00:44:26,674
Well my kids are laughing because I
made them all go, they're all engineers.

1405
00:44:26,674 --> 00:44:27,364
One's mechanical.

1406
00:44:27,364 --> 00:44:28,654
One's construction one's biomedical.

1407
00:44:28,684 --> 00:44:30,334
I can't turn a screwdriver, dude.

1408
00:44:30,334 --> 00:44:35,044
They're all laughing 'cause I can't,
don't get, listen, I hold the light for

1409
00:44:35,044 --> 00:44:36,634
my kids when they're fixing the car.

1410
00:44:36,754 --> 00:44:38,074
Dad, get over here and hold the light.

1411
00:44:38,264 --> 00:44:38,554
Dallas Burnett: good.

1412
00:44:39,174 --> 00:44:40,279
That's so good.

1413
00:44:40,279 --> 00:44:45,139
But it just goes to show how coaching
and development, how powerful that is.

1414
00:44:45,289 --> 00:44:50,449
And it's not even that you had to be this
math and science professor to coach your

1415
00:44:50,449 --> 00:44:52,789
kids in the direction of that belief,

1416
00:44:52,827 --> 00:44:53,037
Andrew Wittman: right

1417
00:44:53,112 --> 00:44:54,792
Dallas Burnett: not saying
that you have to be the expert.

1418
00:44:54,942 --> 00:44:57,552
We're saying that you have to
be the expert in shaping belief.

1419
00:44:57,912 --> 00:44:58,242
That's

1420
00:44:58,317 --> 00:44:58,557
Andrew Wittman: dude.

1421
00:44:58,677 --> 00:44:58,917
That's

1422
00:44:59,352 --> 00:44:59,742
Dallas Burnett: leader.

1423
00:44:59,757 --> 00:45:01,977
Andrew Wittman: that's I'm tagline.

1424
00:45:01,977 --> 00:45:02,337
But that's it.

1425
00:45:02,362 --> 00:45:02,762
that's.

1426
00:45:04,212 --> 00:45:06,522
I'm serious, and I don't even
care what your belief is.

1427
00:45:06,522 --> 00:45:11,172
This, all I do is teach you how
beliefs are made and how to vet

1428
00:45:11,172 --> 00:45:13,962
them and then ask yourself is this
belief helping me or hurting me?

1429
00:45:13,962 --> 00:45:14,532
But that's it.

1430
00:45:14,712 --> 00:45:17,652
If you know how to shape your
beliefs, you can literally write

1431
00:45:17,652 --> 00:45:19,840
your own ticket on the entire planet.

1432
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,205
Dallas Burnett: Now, and now
you talk about thought audits,

1433
00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:22,670
Andrew Wittman: Hmm.

1434
00:45:22,745 --> 00:45:24,395
Dallas Burnett: kind of
your daily armor routine.

1435
00:45:24,395 --> 00:45:27,485
Is that kind of, is that in
that same vein of shaping those

1436
00:45:27,805 --> 00:45:28,085
Andrew Wittman: Absolutely.

1437
00:45:28,225 --> 00:45:28,445
So,

1438
00:45:28,505 --> 00:45:28,715
Dallas Burnett: about

1439
00:45:28,745 --> 00:45:30,830
Andrew Wittman: so I, we got,
that's the corporate term thought

1440
00:45:30,830 --> 00:45:32,150
audit, I call it honest assessment.

1441
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:35,090
So I'm gonna ask myself, I ask,
because the human brain is like

1442
00:45:35,090 --> 00:45:37,760
the original search engine,
it has to answer a question.

1443
00:45:37,767 --> 00:45:39,471
Now the answer doesn't have to
come outta your mouth, but your

1444
00:45:39,471 --> 00:45:41,181
mind will search for the answer.

1445
00:45:41,691 --> 00:45:44,301
So I'm always gonna ask, and
if you right asking, you shall

1446
00:45:44,301 --> 00:45:45,531
receive, ask a bad question.

1447
00:45:45,531 --> 00:45:47,301
What kind of answer you're gonna
get is a bad answer, right?

1448
00:45:47,301 --> 00:45:48,201
I wanna ask you a good question.

1449
00:45:48,201 --> 00:45:48,981
I wanna ask a better question.

1450
00:45:49,176 --> 00:45:49,686
Dallas Burnett: Sure.

1451
00:45:49,731 --> 00:45:52,682
Andrew Wittman: a really great question
is, once I set my target, what do

1452
00:45:52,801 --> 00:45:55,471
what, the first thing I ask myself is,
what am I trying to accomplish today?

1453
00:45:55,621 --> 00:45:56,731
What am I trying to accomplish?

1454
00:45:56,791 --> 00:45:59,341
Like even doing the show with you, what
am I trying to accomplish in this email?

1455
00:45:59,341 --> 00:45:59,911
What am I trying?

1456
00:46:00,071 --> 00:46:01,781
that's the first thing I
wanna do is set my target.

1457
00:46:01,781 --> 00:46:03,251
What is it that I'm trying to accomplish?

1458
00:46:03,501 --> 00:46:05,091
I'm trying to do three
things on this show.

1459
00:46:05,091 --> 00:46:06,531
I want it to be a win for you.

1460
00:46:06,771 --> 00:46:09,411
I want it to be a win for your audience,
and I want it to be a win for me.

1461
00:46:09,411 --> 00:46:10,941
So we all have a great time.

1462
00:46:10,941 --> 00:46:11,811
We all learn something.

1463
00:46:11,811 --> 00:46:14,161
I've already learned like
what, battle for your belief.

1464
00:46:14,161 --> 00:46:14,966
I'm just gonna steal that.

1465
00:46:14,966 --> 00:46:19,321
I'll give you credit the first
three times after that, I'm like, I.

1466
00:46:21,611 --> 00:46:21,791
Dallas Burnett: Yeah,

1467
00:46:24,821 --> 00:46:25,631
it's yours.

1468
00:46:25,631 --> 00:46:26,411
You can take that.

1469
00:46:27,251 --> 00:46:27,371
it.

1470
00:46:27,401 --> 00:46:27,911
Andrew Wittman: That's what I do.

1471
00:46:27,911 --> 00:46:29,051
I'm gonna ask these questions, right?

1472
00:46:29,051 --> 00:46:29,501
how's this?

1473
00:46:29,801 --> 00:46:31,991
Once I set my target, what
am I trying to accomplish?

1474
00:46:31,991 --> 00:46:33,791
Not what I don't want, but what I do want.

1475
00:46:33,791 --> 00:46:37,571
Then I ask myself, whatever's next,
is this helping me or hurting me?

1476
00:46:37,571 --> 00:46:41,351
Hit my target is what I, the action
I'm taking is the word I'm about

1477
00:46:41,351 --> 00:46:44,931
to say is, the thought I'm having,
right now, is that helping me get

1478
00:46:44,931 --> 00:46:46,371
closer to my target or hurting me?

1479
00:46:46,411 --> 00:46:48,511
like I have, we have self-doubt
thoughts all the time.

1480
00:46:48,611 --> 00:46:49,841
and I say this all the time, right?

1481
00:46:50,081 --> 00:46:54,791
You cannot keep birds from flying
over your head, but how many of you

1482
00:46:54,791 --> 00:46:56,321
let them make a nest in your hair,

1483
00:46:56,831 --> 00:46:56,921
Dallas Burnett: Right.

1484
00:46:58,811 --> 00:46:59,021
Andrew Wittman: right?

1485
00:46:59,021 --> 00:47:00,431
So yes, negative, right?

1486
00:47:00,521 --> 00:47:01,331
Dallas Burnett: a great analogy.

1487
00:47:01,331 --> 00:47:01,991
I love that.

1488
00:47:02,291 --> 00:47:04,481
Andrew Wittman: thoughts are coming,
but man, if you a bird, like if

1489
00:47:04,481 --> 00:47:06,881
a negative thought you'd be like,
yeah, I'm, well, you know, they,

1490
00:47:06,881 --> 00:47:09,401
you act like it's the unwanted house
guest from Saturday Night Live.

1491
00:47:09,401 --> 00:47:12,001
They moved in, living in a
van down by the river, right?

1492
00:47:12,001 --> 00:47:14,641
But no, if a bird landed on your
head, you're gonna start freaking out.

1493
00:47:14,641 --> 00:47:16,051
I mean, you know, and get it off, right?

1494
00:47:16,051 --> 00:47:17,641
We should be doing that
with our negative thoughts.

1495
00:47:17,641 --> 00:47:19,021
So that's our my, that's my thought on it.

1496
00:47:19,021 --> 00:47:20,341
I'm not gonna let any birds.

1497
00:47:20,881 --> 00:47:23,581
Make nests in my hair that
doesn't help me get to my tar.

1498
00:47:23,701 --> 00:47:24,331
Does that make sense?

1499
00:47:25,066 --> 00:47:26,086
Dallas Burnett: Oh, a hundred percent.

1500
00:47:26,296 --> 00:47:28,346
My daughters were at, camp a few, a couple

1501
00:47:28,526 --> 00:47:28,816
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1502
00:47:28,886 --> 00:47:31,466
Dallas Burnett: they were talking to,
they had a performance coach come in.

1503
00:47:31,466 --> 00:47:32,876
It was an athletic, it was at tennis camp.

1504
00:47:32,876 --> 00:47:36,176
And so they, had a performance
coach come in and they were talking

1505
00:47:36,176 --> 00:47:37,586
about it, it was from another sport.

1506
00:47:37,586 --> 00:47:40,256
But the performance coach made a
comment, said, don't judge your thoughts.

1507
00:47:40,686 --> 00:47:43,711
don't say, well, I'm, I'm like,
in terms of like hitting, I've

1508
00:47:43,711 --> 00:47:45,211
made a bad shot or I've done that.

1509
00:47:45,211 --> 00:47:49,781
Said, but just judge whether what
you're thinking is productive or

1510
00:47:50,126 --> 00:47:51,776
Andrew Wittman: Hmm hmm.

1511
00:47:51,866 --> 00:47:52,256
That's good.

1512
00:47:52,301 --> 00:47:52,661
Dallas Burnett: That

1513
00:47:52,736 --> 00:47:53,696
Andrew Wittman: Stealing that too.

1514
00:47:53,831 --> 00:47:53,951
Dallas Burnett: It's

1515
00:47:54,116 --> 00:47:54,266
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1516
00:47:54,266 --> 00:47:54,686
Lemme write.

1517
00:47:54,731 --> 00:47:54,881
Dallas Burnett: You're

1518
00:47:55,076 --> 00:47:56,006
Andrew Wittman: Lemme write that down too.

1519
00:47:56,006 --> 00:47:56,456
That's another,

1520
00:47:56,471 --> 00:47:57,041
Dallas Burnett: Write that down.

1521
00:47:57,041 --> 00:47:57,971
We'll both take that one.

1522
00:47:58,676 --> 00:47:59,096
Andrew Wittman: I dunno.

1523
00:47:59,096 --> 00:48:00,086
Some guy from club.

1524
00:48:00,086 --> 00:48:03,206
Camp we always say, me
Dallas came up on the show.

1525
00:48:03,916 --> 00:48:06,131
Dallas Burnett: Yeah, exactly.

1526
00:48:06,561 --> 00:48:09,141
yeah, but I just thought about that
as, it's just what you're saying

1527
00:48:09,141 --> 00:48:10,461
is that you can't control these.

1528
00:48:10,716 --> 00:48:11,976
These birds is flying over.

1529
00:48:12,096 --> 00:48:17,026
And, but if you can say what's productive
and what's not, then it allows you to just

1530
00:48:17,056 --> 00:48:17,536
Andrew Wittman: Yes.

1531
00:48:17,806 --> 00:48:20,386
Dallas Burnett: the ones that are
unproductive to make nest in your hair.

1532
00:48:20,416 --> 00:48:21,406
Andrew Wittman: So that's
what I'm gonna do is

1533
00:48:21,466 --> 00:48:21,766
Dallas Burnett: good.

1534
00:48:21,946 --> 00:48:22,936
Andrew Wittman: thought,
I'm gonna run it off.

1535
00:48:22,996 --> 00:48:25,426
Like I have an id sta it's
like I have a border, right?

1536
00:48:25,456 --> 00:48:28,736
A border checkpoint, and I'm gonna,
ID, the thought is, and all my

1537
00:48:28,736 --> 00:48:30,986
books, I have this, what I call the
good list or the evil list, right?

1538
00:48:30,986 --> 00:48:32,456
The red flag or green flag list.

1539
00:48:32,486 --> 00:48:32,846
Oh, good.

1540
00:48:32,846 --> 00:48:33,806
Thoughts are all bad thoughts.

1541
00:48:33,861 --> 00:48:34,281
Dallas Burnett: Mm-hmm.

1542
00:48:34,346 --> 00:48:35,186
Andrew Wittman: on the, I check it.

1543
00:48:35,336 --> 00:48:35,876
What's your id?

1544
00:48:35,876 --> 00:48:36,236
Lemme see.

1545
00:48:36,236 --> 00:48:38,456
Oh, you're on the, you're
on the deportation list.

1546
00:48:38,456 --> 00:48:39,266
So you're out, man.

1547
00:48:39,266 --> 00:48:40,736
You're not coming in the, I'm sorry.

1548
00:48:40,736 --> 00:48:42,236
You're an illegal, you can't come in here.

1549
00:48:42,566 --> 00:48:43,406
I'm gonna deport you.

1550
00:48:43,556 --> 00:48:44,216
You can't come in.

1551
00:48:44,676 --> 00:48:45,906
But people don't do that
with their thoughts.

1552
00:48:45,916 --> 00:48:49,246
they let you know, bad thoughts in,
and then they set up shop, right?

1553
00:48:49,246 --> 00:48:52,396
So that's what we, I wanna ID every,
and I'm gonna handcuff 'em and take

1554
00:48:52,396 --> 00:48:54,246
'em outside and Nope, you're deported.

1555
00:48:54,246 --> 00:48:55,026
You can't come in here.

1556
00:48:55,446 --> 00:48:57,606
and I, you do it in
conversations all the time.

1557
00:48:57,606 --> 00:48:59,626
I talk about this with my parents.

1558
00:49:00,271 --> 00:49:02,641
They would give me their
organ recital as they got old.

1559
00:49:02,641 --> 00:49:04,441
my pancreas is going, my heart's bad.

1560
00:49:04,441 --> 00:49:05,641
My kidneys are failing, right?

1561
00:49:05,641 --> 00:49:06,721
My eyes are getting dark, right?

1562
00:49:06,721 --> 00:49:09,271
The organ recital, I'm like,
that's nothing but the bad list.

1563
00:49:09,301 --> 00:49:10,261
How is that helping you?

1564
00:49:10,311 --> 00:49:12,861
So I told you gotta tell me something
good that's going on in your life or

1565
00:49:12,861 --> 00:49:14,506
I'm not gonna talk to you for 30 days.

1566
00:49:14,506 --> 00:49:15,286
I'm not gonna talk to you.

1567
00:49:15,286 --> 00:49:16,786
You guys think about
what's good in your life.

1568
00:49:16,816 --> 00:49:19,606
'cause it was just constant what
your brothers and sisters did.

1569
00:49:19,606 --> 00:49:20,236
This is bad.

1570
00:49:20,236 --> 00:49:21,856
The neighbors, that's what we do, right?

1571
00:49:21,856 --> 00:49:23,206
So we're on this evil list, I call it.

1572
00:49:23,851 --> 00:49:25,711
goes by, I don't answer their calls.

1573
00:49:26,011 --> 00:49:29,871
So then I called and my dad answered
and I said, Hey, what's up pops?

1574
00:49:30,141 --> 00:49:37,266
He said, did you know that Tuesday
bananas are on discount special at Kroger?

1575
00:49:37,311 --> 00:49:37,791
'cause it's.

1576
00:49:46,266 --> 00:49:47,046
Dallas Burnett: I love that.

1577
00:49:47,046 --> 00:49:48,006
That's so good.

1578
00:49:48,486 --> 00:49:49,806
Bananas are on sale on

1579
00:49:50,061 --> 00:49:50,391
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1580
00:49:50,441 --> 00:49:51,971
that's all you got and gimme that.

1581
00:49:51,971 --> 00:49:53,261
That's all you could
come up with at the time.

1582
00:49:53,261 --> 00:49:53,381
But

1583
00:49:53,696 --> 00:49:54,146
Dallas Burnett: take

1584
00:49:54,221 --> 00:49:54,641
Andrew Wittman: take it.

1585
00:49:54,641 --> 00:49:55,121
I was like, alright.

1586
00:49:55,121 --> 00:49:56,291
That was my signal that he got.

1587
00:49:56,291 --> 00:49:57,041
He got the message.

1588
00:49:57,041 --> 00:49:57,851
We're doing it right.

1589
00:49:57,851 --> 00:50:00,071
So then after that, all of
our conversations were great.

1590
00:50:00,071 --> 00:50:00,701
Everything was good.

1591
00:50:00,701 --> 00:50:02,441
We got a new, I got new
flowers for the porch.

1592
00:50:02,441 --> 00:50:03,341
It was sun shining out.

1593
00:50:03,341 --> 00:50:04,811
It was all the good, 'cause
they're in retirement.

1594
00:50:04,811 --> 00:50:06,281
They're telling me all the
good things that are happening.

1595
00:50:06,331 --> 00:50:08,551
Then my brothers and sisters would go be
like, Hey, do you know what's going on?

1596
00:50:08,851 --> 00:50:09,781
I'm like, yeah, I just talked to 'em.

1597
00:50:09,781 --> 00:50:10,231
They're doing great.

1598
00:50:10,231 --> 00:50:10,921
No.

1599
00:50:11,131 --> 00:50:13,171
And then they would try to, I'm
like, so they're still giving

1600
00:50:13,171 --> 00:50:15,691
their organ recital to everybody
else, but they wouldn't to me.

1601
00:50:15,691 --> 00:50:17,311
So I Right.

1602
00:50:17,581 --> 00:50:20,011
Well that's what I'm, as an elite
thinker, I lead warrior, right?

1603
00:50:20,011 --> 00:50:20,911
As this inner armor.

1604
00:50:20,911 --> 00:50:22,711
I wanna, I'm gonna push my airspace out.

1605
00:50:22,711 --> 00:50:25,561
It's not, listen, if you have permission
to tell me all the garbage that's

1606
00:50:25,561 --> 00:50:26,761
gone on in your life, I believe that.

1607
00:50:26,761 --> 00:50:28,891
I'm not gonna argue with you, but it
gives me permission to tell you all

1608
00:50:28,891 --> 00:50:30,151
the good that's happening in my life.

1609
00:50:30,151 --> 00:50:31,231
'cause misery loves company.

1610
00:50:31,231 --> 00:50:33,301
If I'm not gonna be miserable, you're
not gonna wanna hang around me.

1611
00:50:33,310 --> 00:50:34,893
Dallas Burnett: I think
that's true too for leaders.

1612
00:50:34,893 --> 00:50:38,223
If you're leading a team, I think a
lot of times when you assume leadership

1613
00:50:38,223 --> 00:50:42,063
positions are, you create a new team or
you're, you've been put in this place, you

1614
00:50:42,063 --> 00:50:47,853
promoted there's this re character that
could be on your team, lurking on your

1615
00:50:47,853 --> 00:50:50,283
team, and you feel the negative vibes.

1616
00:50:50,283 --> 00:50:52,803
And it's just that person that
always is just complaining The

1617
00:50:52,803 --> 00:50:54,693
glass is, you know, half, half

1618
00:50:54,933 --> 00:50:55,323
Andrew Wittman: Yep.

1619
00:50:55,593 --> 00:50:56,763
Dallas Burnett: everything's
not good enough.

1620
00:50:57,123 --> 00:51:00,003
And I think to your point,
what you did with your parents

1621
00:51:00,003 --> 00:51:01,323
is so important for leaders.

1622
00:51:01,329 --> 00:51:04,567
And ultimately, as a leader, you
are, you're working to coach and

1623
00:51:04,567 --> 00:51:06,547
develop that person out of that habit.

1624
00:51:06,607 --> 00:51:06,877
Andrew Wittman: Right.

1625
00:51:07,002 --> 00:51:08,202
Dallas Burnett: or out of your team.

1626
00:51:08,442 --> 00:51:09,012
Andrew Wittman: One or the other.

1627
00:51:09,017 --> 00:51:09,277
Yeah.

1628
00:51:09,402 --> 00:51:11,352
Dallas Burnett: want, I don't want,
I don't want that to be around.

1629
00:51:11,352 --> 00:51:15,642
But I think one of the ways you can
do that is not accepting that to you.

1630
00:51:15,642 --> 00:51:19,242
So they know that if they're going
to say that they either keep it to

1631
00:51:19,242 --> 00:51:22,062
themselves, but they're definitely
not gonna say it to you as a leader.

1632
00:51:22,097 --> 00:51:22,447
Andrew Wittman: Right.

1633
00:51:22,452 --> 00:51:23,472
Dallas Burnett: not acceptable.

1634
00:51:23,472 --> 00:51:25,182
And it's just like when you said
with parents, look, I'm not gonna

1635
00:51:25,182 --> 00:51:27,432
take you for 30 days until you tell

1636
00:51:27,522 --> 00:51:27,822
Andrew Wittman: Right.

1637
00:51:28,092 --> 00:51:28,512
Dallas Burnett: good.

1638
00:51:28,932 --> 00:51:30,852
And then it was just like after
that, yeah, they could, they

1639
00:51:30,852 --> 00:51:31,962
might say it to other people.

1640
00:51:31,962 --> 00:51:32,382
Andrew Wittman: Not me.

1641
00:51:32,532 --> 00:51:32,682
Dallas Burnett: it to

1642
00:51:32,802 --> 00:51:33,162
Andrew Wittman: Right?

1643
00:51:33,162 --> 00:51:36,272
Dallas Burnett: I think that's really, I
think that's really powerful, as a leader.

1644
00:51:36,537 --> 00:51:38,907
When you're engaging with your
teams, you can bring that same

1645
00:51:38,907 --> 00:51:41,217
level of clarity and expectations.

1646
00:51:41,247 --> 00:51:43,797
'cause what you're doing is
you're raising the level of the

1647
00:51:43,797 --> 00:51:45,507
expectations that you have on your

1648
00:51:45,632 --> 00:51:46,112
Andrew Wittman: Hmm.

1649
00:51:46,167 --> 00:51:48,117
Dallas Burnett: especially the
person that's got that bad attitude.

1650
00:51:48,117 --> 00:51:50,997
You're saying, look, your expectation
is everything's falling apart.

1651
00:51:50,997 --> 00:51:53,287
My expectation is you've got to do better.

1652
00:51:53,317 --> 00:51:54,577
You can't talk like this.

1653
00:51:54,705 --> 00:51:55,035
Andrew Wittman: Right.

1654
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,360
Dallas Burnett: share.

1655
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,410
And so I love that.

1656
00:51:56,715 --> 00:51:57,825
Andrew Wittman: No, that's so good, man.

1657
00:51:57,825 --> 00:51:59,785
and lemme just throw this out, George,
you're saying that a thought popped

1658
00:51:59,785 --> 00:52:01,825
in my head that silence is consent.

1659
00:52:02,125 --> 00:52:04,165
Like you cannot let 'em
say it and say nothing.

1660
00:52:04,165 --> 00:52:05,335
And this is what a lot of leaders do.

1661
00:52:05,335 --> 00:52:06,445
I don't want the confrontation.

1662
00:52:06,475 --> 00:52:10,025
Look, it's the confrontation
will is not conflict.

1663
00:52:10,085 --> 00:52:12,635
The, but it will turn into
conflict if you don't confront

1664
00:52:12,635 --> 00:52:14,015
that e that attitude, right?

1665
00:52:14,015 --> 00:52:15,125
So I'm not gonna just ignore it.

1666
00:52:15,125 --> 00:52:18,215
'cause if you ignore it long enough,
it will turn into a blow up conflict.

1667
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,050
So I don't wanna be silent, like
every time I got, every time.

1668
00:52:22,050 --> 00:52:23,550
it's, you gotta be consistent with it.

1669
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,270
if you're saying something on the, on
that red flag list or the evil list,

1670
00:52:26,270 --> 00:52:27,200
I'm gonna tell you something good.

1671
00:52:27,206 --> 00:52:28,646
I'm not gonna, I'm not
gonna argue with you.

1672
00:52:28,646 --> 00:52:30,506
I'm just gonna tell you what the,
I'm gonna point out the good thing.

1673
00:52:31,151 --> 00:52:33,536
Dallas Burnett: and again, it's
hard when you're catching people.

1674
00:52:33,536 --> 00:52:36,456
You made a comment of, not just
berating people when things go

1675
00:52:36,456 --> 00:52:39,661
wrong and it's ultimately catching
people doing the right thing and

1676
00:52:39,811 --> 00:52:40,021
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1677
00:52:40,171 --> 00:52:40,561
Dallas Burnett: that.

1678
00:52:40,741 --> 00:52:41,221
Andrew Wittman: Correct.

1679
00:52:41,221 --> 00:52:43,021
Dallas Burnett: it just
all goes together, right?

1680
00:52:43,021 --> 00:52:46,681
If you're catching people doing the
right thing and you're rewarding the

1681
00:52:46,681 --> 00:52:52,561
right behaviors, then it just isn't,
it is not congruent with someone

1682
00:52:52,561 --> 00:52:56,281
that only sees the bad and only sees
the, and so I just think that, the

1683
00:52:56,311 --> 00:52:58,321
consistency though, is the key in that.

1684
00:52:58,321 --> 00:52:58,531
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1685
00:52:58,561 --> 00:53:01,021
Dallas Burnett: And that is,
is that, is the messaging.

1686
00:53:01,201 --> 00:53:04,081
Again, we're battling for the beliefs
and we always talk about on the

1687
00:53:04,081 --> 00:53:07,591
show, it's like Ford Truck doesn't
tell boys when they're 16 that they

1688
00:53:07,591 --> 00:53:09,811
need to buy a Ford truck and then
never talk to 'em again the rest of

1689
00:53:09,931 --> 00:53:10,231
right?

1690
00:53:10,231 --> 00:53:11,711
They're, just a barrage.

1691
00:53:11,711 --> 00:53:15,131
Every sports show, every radio
broadcast, every, and so you

1692
00:53:15,131 --> 00:53:15,971
need a four, you need a four.

1693
00:53:16,421 --> 00:53:18,811
And so at the end of the day,
we've gotta be the same way as

1694
00:53:19,131 --> 00:53:19,851
Andrew Wittman: Hundred percent.

1695
00:53:20,041 --> 00:53:21,031
Dallas Burnett: to catch
people doing right.

1696
00:53:21,091 --> 00:53:23,651
We're gonna raise the standard
and we're not gonna accept this,

1697
00:53:23,651 --> 00:53:24,911
negativity that people bring

1698
00:53:24,996 --> 00:53:26,326
Andrew Wittman: Dude, that's so good, man.

1699
00:53:26,351 --> 00:53:26,741
Dallas Burnett: love it.

1700
00:53:26,741 --> 00:53:28,301
Dude, this has been a great conversation.

1701
00:53:28,301 --> 00:53:34,111
So let's, if you were to give people,
one piece of advice, for living in the

1702
00:53:34,111 --> 00:53:39,811
last 10% to up their game, in their
personal life, in their leadership and

1703
00:53:39,811 --> 00:53:43,621
leading teams or their organization, if
we wanted to leave with one thing here,

1704
00:53:43,621 --> 00:53:45,336
what would be your advice to our listeners

1705
00:53:45,656 --> 00:53:47,006
Andrew Wittman: It's just a, it
is just a quick thing called ride

1706
00:53:47,006 --> 00:53:48,746
hard, shoot straight and never lie.

1707
00:53:48,749 --> 00:53:49,225
Dallas Burnett: Hmm

1708
00:53:49,425 --> 00:53:50,055
Andrew Wittman: hard, shoot straight.

1709
00:53:50,055 --> 00:53:53,305
So my, I got that from my leadership
mentor, Lieutenant Colonel John Chetty.

1710
00:53:53,305 --> 00:53:55,075
He was my commanding
officer in Desert Storm.

1711
00:53:55,385 --> 00:53:58,515
and then when he change of command, he
took over, weapons Company three six.

1712
00:53:58,515 --> 00:53:59,145
That was his speech.

1713
00:53:59,145 --> 00:53:59,565
He got up there.

1714
00:53:59,565 --> 00:54:01,575
He is gents, ride hard,
shoot straight, never lie.

1715
00:54:01,586 --> 00:54:02,725
And we're like, we love this guy.

1716
00:54:02,725 --> 00:54:04,125
It's short, we're not cooking in the sun.

1717
00:54:04,605 --> 00:54:07,065
But it took me years to
like really unpack that.

1718
00:54:07,065 --> 00:54:08,105
it's I'm gonna ride hard.

1719
00:54:08,155 --> 00:54:09,055
I'm a man of excellence.

1720
00:54:09,055 --> 00:54:11,575
I'm gonna, I'm gonna give my
best effort at everything I do.

1721
00:54:11,575 --> 00:54:12,085
That's the test.

1722
00:54:12,085 --> 00:54:12,505
10%.

1723
00:54:12,595 --> 00:54:12,885
Dallas Burnett: Yeah.

1724
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:15,560
Andrew Wittman: if it's easy that,
look man, if you're not, if you're

1725
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,370
not giving your be, and I always ask
this, do have you, can you think of a

1726
00:54:19,370 --> 00:54:20,720
time when you gave your best effort?

1727
00:54:20,949 --> 00:54:21,829
Dallas Burnett: Hmm, hmm

1728
00:54:21,859 --> 00:54:22,639
Andrew Wittman: What's that look like?

1729
00:54:22,969 --> 00:54:25,279
Like for my wife, it was like when
she was giving birth to our kids

1730
00:54:25,279 --> 00:54:26,929
without any epidurals or drugs.

1731
00:54:26,929 --> 00:54:28,189
that was her best like John, right?

1732
00:54:28,189 --> 00:54:31,279
That for me, it was like a rookie on
the street where the first time a bad

1733
00:54:31,279 --> 00:54:34,519
guy tried to take my gun from me and
kill me with it, and we're fighting.

1734
00:54:34,569 --> 00:54:35,679
that's my best effort, right?

1735
00:54:35,949 --> 00:54:38,079
So if you don't have a best
effort story, how do you know

1736
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:39,159
if you're riding hard or not?

1737
00:54:39,682 --> 00:54:40,312
So the next thing,

1738
00:54:40,357 --> 00:54:40,557
Dallas Burnett: do you

1739
00:54:40,612 --> 00:54:41,182
Andrew Wittman: yeah, you don't know.

1740
00:54:41,182 --> 00:54:42,502
You're just like, I'm
doing my best effort.

1741
00:54:42,502 --> 00:54:43,492
what is your best effort?

1742
00:54:43,492 --> 00:54:44,722
and the next thing is shoot straight.

1743
00:54:44,942 --> 00:54:46,262
that's about being skillful, right?

1744
00:54:46,502 --> 00:54:47,372
I'm gonna hit the target.

1745
00:54:47,372 --> 00:54:48,932
I wanna hit the target that I'm going for.

1746
00:54:48,932 --> 00:54:52,412
I have to identify the target, and
I have to make sure that my skills

1747
00:54:52,412 --> 00:54:53,822
in hitting the target are up, right?

1748
00:54:53,822 --> 00:54:57,602
So that means for us in the professional
world, and I co man, you gotta read an

1749
00:54:57,602 --> 00:55:01,322
hour a night and you're, if you read an
hour every night, people are like an hour.

1750
00:55:01,322 --> 00:55:01,472
Yeah.

1751
00:55:01,472 --> 00:55:03,332
Stop watching Netflix or
something for a minute.

1752
00:55:03,602 --> 00:55:07,652
Read before you go to bed, something
in your field in five years, imagine

1753
00:55:07,652 --> 00:55:09,182
what kind of expert you're going to be.

1754
00:55:10,112 --> 00:55:11,192
Dallas Burnett: Oh, unbelievable.

1755
00:55:11,732 --> 00:55:12,452
Andrew Wittman: So shoot straight.

1756
00:55:12,512 --> 00:55:14,222
And then the last thing is, never lie.

1757
00:55:14,252 --> 00:55:15,182
that's pretty easy, man.

1758
00:55:15,332 --> 00:55:16,862
But not just don't lie to others.

1759
00:55:16,862 --> 00:55:17,792
I mean, yeah, that's great.

1760
00:55:17,972 --> 00:55:19,202
Don't lie to yourself, man.

1761
00:55:19,412 --> 00:55:21,332
That's the thought audit,
that's the honest assessment.

1762
00:55:21,332 --> 00:55:24,362
I'm not gonna lie to myself, I'm
gonna be brutally honest with myself.

1763
00:55:25,577 --> 00:55:26,897
Dallas Burnett: Yeah, I love that, man.

1764
00:55:27,287 --> 00:55:28,517
That's all right.

1765
00:55:28,517 --> 00:55:31,847
So I'm just recapping some of the
great ideas that you shared with the

1766
00:55:31,847 --> 00:55:34,517
listeners date, suspend disbelief.

1767
00:55:35,177 --> 00:55:36,437
Oh man, that was really great.

1768
00:55:36,647 --> 00:55:39,227
I love catching people doing
really, you know, the good

1769
00:55:39,437 --> 00:55:39,647
Andrew Wittman: Yep.

1770
00:55:39,737 --> 00:55:42,347
Dallas Burnett: and raising
the, that bar of excellence.

1771
00:55:42,527 --> 00:55:43,247
I love that.

1772
00:55:43,277 --> 00:55:44,507
silence is consent.

1773
00:55:44,507 --> 00:55:46,402
That is just a great,
that's, this is great.

1774
00:55:46,517 --> 00:55:49,427
And then obviously, the question
that you just asked, how do you know

1775
00:55:49,757 --> 00:55:51,407
that you're giving your best effort?

1776
00:55:51,707 --> 00:55:53,087
Oh, that's a man

1777
00:55:53,252 --> 00:55:54,782
that's stepping on some toes right there.

1778
00:55:54,782 --> 00:55:54,962
That's

1779
00:55:55,022 --> 00:55:55,802
Andrew Wittman: I'm sorry, but

1780
00:55:56,117 --> 00:55:56,327
I

1781
00:55:56,477 --> 00:55:56,627
Dallas Burnett: it,

1782
00:55:57,557 --> 00:55:58,667
Andrew Wittman: club It's toughness.

1783
00:55:58,937 --> 00:56:01,367
Dallas Burnett: Hey, listen,
it's, it is, we gotta have it.

1784
00:56:01,367 --> 00:56:02,237
Leaders gotta have it.

1785
00:56:02,237 --> 00:56:03,347
and you gotta be willing to go for it.

1786
00:56:03,347 --> 00:56:03,557
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1787
00:56:03,617 --> 00:56:05,207
Dallas Burnett: live in the
last 10%, you gotta get the toe

1788
00:56:05,207 --> 00:56:06,047
stepped on every once in a while.

1789
00:56:06,047 --> 00:56:06,617
That's really good

1790
00:56:06,732 --> 00:56:07,022
Andrew Wittman: Yeah.

1791
00:56:07,367 --> 00:56:07,997
Dallas Burnett: So, all right.

1792
00:56:07,997 --> 00:56:11,297
How can listeners of the
last 10% connect with you?

1793
00:56:11,537 --> 00:56:13,897
Find out more information
and, find your book

1794
00:56:14,167 --> 00:56:16,267
Andrew Wittman: Yeah, I got a special
thing for all your listeners if you

1795
00:56:16,267 --> 00:56:19,957
go to get warrior tough.com/podcast.

1796
00:56:19,957 --> 00:56:21,937
So I got stuff up there just for
the listeners of the podcast.

1797
00:56:21,937 --> 00:56:24,097
Get warrior tough.com/podcast.

1798
00:56:24,097 --> 00:56:25,507
That's where you guys should go.

1799
00:56:25,517 --> 00:56:28,217
and you can find me on, I'm on
all the social medias, under Get

1800
00:56:28,217 --> 00:56:32,197
Warrior tough or Warrior Tough PhD.
but man, what a great time, Dallas.

1801
00:56:32,197 --> 00:56:34,387
I mean, I, dude, where have
you been my whole life?

1802
00:56:34,477 --> 00:56:36,597
I can't believe we're both
in Greenville and we're not.

1803
00:56:36,747 --> 00:56:38,817
This is the first time I'm
like, what is going on here?

1804
00:56:39,597 --> 00:56:41,307
Dallas Burnett: I know we
need to do this more often.

1805
00:56:41,307 --> 00:56:41,547
This is

1806
00:56:41,752 --> 00:56:42,612
Andrew Wittman: So crazy, dude.

1807
00:56:42,747 --> 00:56:45,237
Dallas Burnett: we always ask the,
when we end the show, we always

1808
00:56:45,237 --> 00:56:49,257
ask the guest, is someone you'd
like to hear on the last 10%?

1809
00:56:49,257 --> 00:56:49,707
So

1810
00:56:50,172 --> 00:56:50,462
Andrew Wittman: Yeah,

1811
00:56:50,577 --> 00:56:50,727
Dallas Burnett: that

1812
00:56:50,772 --> 00:56:53,922
Andrew Wittman: I told Nick Saban is my,
I mean, 'cause you live in Greenville and

1813
00:56:53,922 --> 00:56:57,012
Clemson and Dabo would be an easy get,
but you get Nick and Nick's retired now.

1814
00:56:57,012 --> 00:56:58,662
He ain't got nothing to
do except talk on tv.

1815
00:56:58,662 --> 00:56:58,992
Dallas Burnett: Got more

1816
00:56:59,187 --> 00:56:59,757
maybe he's got more

1817
00:56:59,997 --> 00:57:00,597
Andrew Wittman: But I do love,

1818
00:57:00,657 --> 00:57:01,227
Dallas Burnett: have, we'll have,

1819
00:57:01,802 --> 00:57:02,432
Andrew Wittman: process and.

1820
00:57:02,432 --> 00:57:03,152
Dallas Burnett: he's a great.

1821
00:57:03,932 --> 00:57:04,892
The process is great.

1822
00:57:04,892 --> 00:57:05,072
Yeah.

1823
00:57:05,072 --> 00:57:05,882
I love saving too.

1824
00:57:05,882 --> 00:57:08,482
he's a, obviously phenomenal
coach and I've watched a lot of

1825
00:57:08,482 --> 00:57:12,012
his YouTube stuff, just, nuggets
from his, his career too, yeah.

1826
00:57:12,012 --> 00:57:12,372
All right.

1827
00:57:12,372 --> 00:57:13,752
we'll have to, we'll have
to put him on the list.

1828
00:57:13,752 --> 00:57:15,432
We'll see if we can get him on the last

1829
00:57:15,552 --> 00:57:16,332
Andrew Wittman: How would you do it?

1830
00:57:16,332 --> 00:57:18,417
Because I know when I said it,
you're like, we can't get Saban.

1831
00:57:18,417 --> 00:57:18,642
All right.

1832
00:57:18,642 --> 00:57:19,939
How could you, if you could get him,

1833
00:57:20,622 --> 00:57:20,922
Dallas Burnett: That's

1834
00:57:21,102 --> 00:57:22,302
Andrew Wittman: how would you get him?

1835
00:57:22,392 --> 00:57:23,172
Dallas Burnett: disbelief.

1836
00:57:23,262 --> 00:57:23,952
Andrew Wittman: would you get him?

1837
00:57:24,522 --> 00:57:25,872
I have faith in you Dallas.

1838
00:57:25,872 --> 00:57:26,682
I know you can get him.

1839
00:57:28,512 --> 00:57:29,592
Dallas Burnett: Alright,
we're gonna put it down.

1840
00:57:29,592 --> 00:57:31,422
We're gonna suspend disbelief and I'll

1841
00:57:31,602 --> 00:57:32,292
Andrew Wittman: Because I knew it.

1842
00:57:32,292 --> 00:57:32,712
I knew it.

1843
00:57:33,012 --> 00:57:34,902
I'm like, I'm gonna give him
somebody that I can know.

1844
00:57:34,902 --> 00:57:36,342
He is gonna be like, we
can't get that guy out.

1845
00:57:36,342 --> 00:57:36,522
This.

1846
00:57:36,822 --> 00:57:37,092
I'm like,

1847
00:57:37,242 --> 00:57:37,587
Dallas Burnett: me, man.

1848
00:57:37,947 --> 00:57:38,507
we're in the

1849
00:57:38,612 --> 00:57:39,752
Andrew Wittman: we didn't even, yeah,

1850
00:57:40,202 --> 00:57:40,772
Dallas Burnett: disbelief.

1851
00:57:41,102 --> 00:57:42,002
Andrew Wittman: wasn't even an hour.

1852
00:57:42,002 --> 00:57:43,352
And you forgot the question, bro.

1853
00:57:43,352 --> 00:57:43,442
Man.

1854
00:57:47,087 --> 00:57:47,447
Dallas Burnett: All right.

1855
00:57:47,447 --> 00:57:48,437
I got my challenge.

1856
00:57:48,437 --> 00:57:48,797
I got my

1857
00:57:49,112 --> 00:57:49,442
Andrew Wittman: Alright.

1858
00:57:49,517 --> 00:57:49,847
Dallas Burnett: sure.

1859
00:57:49,877 --> 00:57:51,497
All right, we're gonna, we're
gonna suspend this belief.

1860
00:57:51,497 --> 00:57:52,757
We're gonna get Nick Saban on the

1861
00:57:52,862 --> 00:57:53,942
Andrew Wittman: That's
what I like to hear.

1862
00:57:54,122 --> 00:57:54,392
Yeah.

1863
00:57:55,217 --> 00:57:55,697
Dallas Burnett: That's great.

1864
00:57:55,697 --> 00:57:59,057
Now, Andrew, this has been
a fantastic conversation.

1865
00:57:59,057 --> 00:58:02,207
Thank you for sharing your wisdom,
insight with all of the listeners.

1866
00:58:02,207 --> 00:58:03,197
We just appreciate you.

1867
00:58:03,257 --> 00:58:03,557
We should

1868
00:58:03,557 --> 00:58:04,007
Andrew Wittman: Oh, no.

1869
00:58:04,007 --> 00:58:05,147
Thank you so much for having me.

1870
00:58:05,147 --> 00:58:05,867
What a great time.

1871
00:58:05,867 --> 00:58:10,397
And you're, I, dude and this, I seriously,
I feel more energized being with you.

1872
00:58:10,517 --> 00:58:13,517
I need to be in your space
more because I'm serious.

1873
00:58:13,757 --> 00:58:15,227
I feed off that energy you bring.

1874
00:58:15,227 --> 00:58:15,977
It's just so good.

1875
00:58:16,007 --> 00:58:17,267
I'm like, where's he been my whole life?

1876
00:58:17,267 --> 00:58:18,092
I need to pay pocket.

1877
00:58:18,172 --> 00:58:18,917
I need a pocket.

1878
00:58:18,917 --> 00:58:21,617
Dallas, I can just pull outta my pocket.

1879
00:58:21,624 --> 00:58:22,109
Dallas Burnett: Pocket, Dallas.

1880
00:58:22,274 --> 00:58:22,694
That's right.

1881
00:58:22,694 --> 00:58:23,294
that's awesome.

1882
00:58:23,294 --> 00:58:24,164
thanks again, brother.

1883
00:58:24,164 --> 00:58:25,664
We'll, we'll have you
back on the show again

1884
00:58:25,754 --> 00:58:26,204
Andrew Wittman: Awesome.