Christine Hassler is a life coach with a counseling
Host:emphasis known for catalyzing radical self reflection, but
Host:also while offering practical direction, she has really
Host:created this roadmap for life and for people of all ages,
Host:which is kind of about self discovery, self acceptance, self
Host:forgiveness and clarity. And she is a cum laude graduate of
Host:Northwestern University, and she also has her master's degree in
Host:spiritual psychology from the University of Santa Monica. Her
Host:book is called Expectation Hangover, Overcoming
Host:Disappointment in Work, Love and Life, and it's really the
Host:guidebook for how to treat disappointment on the emotional,
Host:mental, behavioral and spiritual levels. And so Christine, it's
Host:great to meet you. Thank you for being on the show.
Christine Hassler:Oh, I'm equally as excited. Thanks for
Christine Hassler:having me.
Host:So can you clarify, like, what exactly is an expectation
Host:hangover, and how did you kind of come up with that term?
Christine Hassler:Yeah. We may love the phrase, but we don't
Christine Hassler:like having them. I came up with it after having so many of my
Christine Hassler:own. And basically it's when it's disappointment, but how I
Christine Hassler:break it down, it's when one of three things happen, either the
Christine Hassler:desired outcome or plan or result that you work so hard for
Christine Hassler:doesn't happen. Things don't turn out the way you planned. Or
Christine Hassler:you get the goal, you have the result, but you don't have the
Christine Hassler:feelings you thought you would have from it, like you get this
Christine Hassler:great job, and then you're like, Wait, where's the pot of gold at
Christine Hassler:the end of the rainbow? Where's the happiness? Or life just
Christine Hassler:totally throws you an unexpected curve ball. You lose a job, you
Christine Hassler:get sick, someone dies. You know those kind of unexpected curve
Christine Hassler:balls. So what I noticed about expectation hangovers is that
Christine Hassler:they are similar to hangover symptoms from alcohol, in the
Christine Hassler:sense that your head is hurting, maybe not physically, but all
Christine Hassler:the thoughts and thinking and obsessing that happens when we
Christine Hassler:have an expectation hangover, we just get really in our head. We
Christine Hassler:lack motivation. There's a sense of regret. We're spinning and
Christine Hassler:confusion. It's just a feeling we want to get over. And people
Christine Hassler:really just want to get out of disappointment, and they'll do
Christine Hassler:anything to basically not feel it. And what I notice is that
Christine Hassler:most people use coping mechanisms that involve
Christine Hassler:suppression and numbing, anything from drugs and alcohol
Christine Hassler:to overworking really super being busy looking for the next
Christine Hassler:best thing. Even in kind of the personal growth community,
Christine Hassler:there's something called a spiritual bypass, where people
Christine Hassler:just try to jump to the silver lining or meditate their way out
Christine Hassler:of it, and don't really feel what's happening. And I'm really
Christine Hassler:passionate about helping people leverage disappointment, because
Christine Hassler:when we talk about disappointment and change, those
Christine Hassler:things are the catalysts that create the most personal growth
Christine Hassler:inside of us. You know, most people have their biggest leaps
Christine Hassler:when it comes to growth when something kind of surprising or
Christine Hassler:bad happens, that's usually what motivates us to do the work that
Christine Hassler:really changes our life. And I've noticed that the most
Christine Hassler:suffering people have is when their expectations don't meet
Christine Hassler:their reality. But there's a real healing opportunity inside
Christine Hassler:of that.
Host:Do you tend to find that the disappointments that we
Host:have, are they based on expectations that usually come
Host:from the outside, that people put on us? Or are you talking
Host:more about expectations that we have, that we created for
Host:ourselves and then things not living up to them?
Christine Hassler:It's absolutely both. You know, we
Christine Hassler:have the double whammy of expectations, all the societal
Christine Hassler:things and checklists that we buy into in terms of our belief
Christine Hassler:system, and then this incredible pressure we put on ourselves. I
Christine Hassler:noticed that people, especially really intelligent, successful
Christine Hassler:people, they motivate themselves by being hard on themselves and
Christine Hassler:placing massive expectations. And the tricky, kind of sneaky
Christine Hassler:thing about that is, it works, you know, like I used to
Christine Hassler:motivate myself by being very hard on myself, and I kind of
Christine Hassler:didn't even realize it, you know. And I'm not talking about
Christine Hassler:being hard on yourself, like you're a loser, you suck, like
Christine Hassler:it's not doesn't have to be that severe, subtle, like you could
Christine Hassler:have done that better, or your friends more successful. Or, why
Christine Hassler:did you say that? You know, just these subtle things that are
Christine Hassler:this critical voice inside of us, and it's effective. You
Christine Hassler:know, we get things done that way, but we have these massive
Christine Hassler:expectations and standards that A, we may not live up to, and B,
Christine Hassler:once we do live up to them, then we consistently keep raising the
Christine Hassler:bar. And so when is enough enough? Like, when are we there?
Christine Hassler:When do we finally accept ourselves as enough? And that's
Christine Hassler:the problem we run into when we live a life driven by
Christine Hassler:expectations versus values and vision and really accepting and
Christine Hassler:acknowledge our acknowledging ourselves for who we are and the
Christine Hassler:unique impact we're here to make.
Host:How do you balance that? Is there a middle ground that is
Host:kind of what we're seeking? Or is it something different than
Host:that?
Christine Hassler:Yes, so both complacency and overdoing come
Christine Hassler:from a place of sort of lack of self love and insecurity and
Christine Hassler:trying to compensate for something and not feeling enough
Christine Hassler:in some way. You know, we put these high driving standards on
Christine Hassler:ourselves because, on some level, we don't feel like we are
Christine Hassler:enough and we have something to prove. And on the opposite end
Christine Hassler:of the coin, like when we are get complacent and like we stop
Christine Hassler:doing. Then again, that's coming from a feeling of like not not
Christine Hassler:feeling enough or worthy enough of pursuing our own dreams. So
Christine Hassler:at the root of this, really, is our relationship with ourselves
Christine Hassler:and how we perceive the world, and how we perceive ourselves in
Christine Hassler:that world. So what it comes down to, in terms of that middle
Christine Hassler:point, is really investigating, you know, how do we define
Christine Hassler:success like, what's our definition of success? Is it
Christine Hassler:externally based, or do we have a definition that's more
Christine Hassler:intrinsic? And the biggest thing from expectation hangovers that
Christine Hassler:I've learned is that it reorientates people, myself
Christine Hassler:included, from an outside in perspective to an inside out
Christine Hassler:perspective. We start to realize that coming from our own values,
Christine Hassler:our own, what I call superpowers rather than expectations, is not
Christine Hassler:only more balanced way to live, but it just feels a whole heck
Christine Hassler:of a lot better. So it's more of a reorientation and a pivot in
Christine Hassler:terms of how we perceive our life and how we take action than
Christine Hassler:it is trying to balance between the two I love that, you know,
Christine Hassler:we're so destination, obsessed in our world and getting there,
Christine Hassler:and it's like, actually, what we truly, you know, enjoy the most,
Christine Hassler:if we allow ourselves and stop putting so much pressure on
Christine Hassler:ourselves, is the process and what we learn about ourselves
Christine Hassler:and the qualities that come out of us while, while we do things
Christine Hassler:and and, you know, the feel, because we think We're after
Christine Hassler:form, but what we're really after is essence. We're chasing
Christine Hassler:feeling more than we are outcome. But because we kind of
Christine Hassler:don't know that, and because our society, or even our educational
Christine Hassler:system, is so goal based, we lose connection with that. How
Christine Hassler:do you want to feel? Let's not worry about the form. You know,
Christine Hassler:the universe, God, whatever your spiritual belief system. It
Christine Hassler:will, it will take care of that. But if you really focus on the
Christine Hassler:feeling of what you want to experience in life, and get an
Christine Hassler:energetic alignment with that feeling, then the form takes
Christine Hassler:care of itself. I mean, it's people all ask me all the time,
Christine Hassler:like, how I've built my career, and it's truly been, you know,
Christine Hassler:the work I've done on myself and being really clear about my
Christine Hassler:values and what I want to feel, and looking at the things that
Christine Hassler:have gotten in my way, limiting beliefs that don't work ways
Christine Hassler:I've tried to compensate. You know, in the book, I talk a lot
Christine Hassler:about compensatory strategies, and my biggest one was, as I
Christine Hassler:mentioned, overachieving. And the reason why that developed is
Christine Hassler:because I was teased and bullied a lot as a kid. I had this this
Christine Hassler:belief that I was unlikable in some way, something was wrong
Christine Hassler:with me. So my life was about proving myself, and that was
Christine Hassler:great. You know, as a straight A student, went to great college,
Christine Hassler:moved out to Hollywood, because if you're insecure, you move out
Christine Hassler:to Hollywood and have this really successful career at a
Christine Hassler:young age, was making all this money. And like, it was like,
Christine Hassler:when does a happy feeling come in? When does a confident
Christine Hassler:feeling come in. And I had a in a year, I had a lot of very
Christine Hassler:severe things happen, where I ended up on my knees, kind of
Christine Hassler:just going, like, what, what do I do? And had what I call a
Christine Hassler:spiritual awakening that wasn't like super it wasn't like this,
Christine Hassler:like angels coming down, or anything like that. It was just
Christine Hassler:this internal realization of, wow, like all the things I'm
Christine Hassler:looking for on the outside, could they possibly be inside of
Christine Hassler:me? That was when I, you know, had the pivot. So I think it's
Christine Hassler:just like we get So sort of hypnotized by the way we've been
Christine Hassler:conditioned. And to me, the process of awakening is really
Christine Hassler:about looking at our programming. Because the great
Christine Hassler:thing about our brain is it's totally malleable, and we have
Christine Hassler:the potential to change it, and to do that, we have to change
Christine Hassler:our thoughts, and we have to change our perception. And I
Christine Hassler:love one of the definitions of a miracle. It's a change in
Christine Hassler:perception. So even if you're in an expectation hangover right
Christine Hassler:now, are you willing to bring a miracle mind to it by just
Christine Hassler:changing how you look at it?
Host:Alright, so I want to go back to overcoming
Host:disappointment for a second. How do we overcome those
Host:disappointments when they do happen?
Christine Hassler:Yeah, absolutely, you're going to be
Christine Hassler:disappointed, because you are human. We all are human. And the
Christine Hassler:thing about the human experience is we learn through contrast.
Christine Hassler:That is totally how we learn. And I think that people try to
Christine Hassler:avoid, sort of the dark, the disappointment. And I'm all
Christine Hassler:about leveraging it and milking it. I remember when I was going
Christine Hassler:through my divorce, one of my coaches said to me, Christine,
Christine Hassler:milk this for all it's worth. Don't just try to get over it,
Christine Hassler:like, really go in because there's there's gold here. And
Christine Hassler:that was that was really true. And with so much of the work in
Christine Hassler:terms of what became expectation hangover, because it wasn't just
Christine Hassler:about healing from the disappointment of the divorce,
Christine Hassler:it was everything that that triggered inside of me, and that
Christine Hassler:was one of the biggest growth opportunities of my life. And so
Christine Hassler:the first thing to answer your question is to move into
Christine Hassler:acceptance of it, rather than resisting it, rather than
Christine Hassler:judging it, rather than trying to control it, rather than
Christine Hassler:trying to change it, accept what is I love a quote from Byron
Christine Hassler:Katie, I might be paraphrasing a bit. But it goes basically
Christine Hassler:something like, when you argue with reality, you only lose 100%
Christine Hassler:of the time. So acceptance is, is not about, Oh, I love it, and
Christine Hassler:I have to, you know, have this positive attitude about it. I'm
Christine Hassler:not about that, but just going into, all right, this isn't
Christine Hassler:ideal, but I'm going to stop fighting. I'm going to accept
Christine Hassler:it. And then after acceptance, you move into really letting
Christine Hassler:yourself heal and feel on the emotional level. And I'm sort of
Christine Hassler:kind of taking you on a little tour of the treatment plan in
Christine Hassler:the book, because this is the order that I go in. And what
Christine Hassler:I've realized in my own life and working with 1000s of people at
Christine Hassler:this point, is people don't like to feel like to feel good. We
Christine Hassler:like to avoid the feelings of shame, of anger, of hurt, and
Christine Hassler:it's important to feel that emotion is energy in motion. So
Christine Hassler:when we suppress emotion, it's like trying to keep a beach ball
Christine Hassler:underwater. You know, you can keep it down for a while, but
Christine Hassler:eventually it pops up. And it might pop up in the forms of
Christine Hassler:irritability or a health concern or like not being able to access
Christine Hassler:your intuition, or whatever it may be like that suppressed
Christine Hassler:emotion is not good for us, mentally or physically. And so,
Christine Hassler:you know, I teach in the book How to release emotion rather
Christine Hassler:than recycle it, because most of us don't learn know how to
Christine Hassler:process our feelings. We tend to judge it, analyze it, want them
Christine Hassler:to go away. And there's ways to release emotion where you find a
Christine Hassler:place inside of you that's having the emotion, and you also
Christine Hassler:find a place where you have compassion and you just allow
Christine Hassler:yourself to feel without any judgment. There's actually a
Christine Hassler:process in the book called a temper tantrum technique, where
Christine Hassler:I'm sure you've seen a child have a temper tantrum. And the
Christine Hassler:thing is, children know how to feel, so if a kid gets upset,
Christine Hassler:like you'll see they get upset, they start to cry, then they may
Christine Hassler:be yelling and screaming, kicking, and then they kind of
Christine Hassler:start to whimper, and they kind of go into that, you know, and
Christine Hassler:then they start to slow down, and then they may rock a little
Christine Hassler:bit, and they start to soothe themselves, and then they want
Christine Hassler:ice cream, and then they're fine. They know how to ride the
Christine Hassler:wave of emotions. And as young people and our parents, you
Christine Hassler:know, did the best they could, but our emotions were kind of
Christine Hassler:interrupted. We were told, shake it off, big boys, don't cry. Or
Christine Hassler:we were like, soothes with food or something like that. And
Christine Hassler:then, you know, later in life, we try to soothe our emotions by
Christine Hassler:eating. So we found these kind of ways to suppress and as
Christine Hassler:adults, we have to look at all, right, how do I really release
Christine Hassler:my emotion? And so, you know, I basically teach you how to have
Christine Hassler:an adult version of a temper tantrum, so that you get the
Christine Hassler:emotion up and out. And there's also other techniques, writing
Christine Hassler:techniques and things like that, but the key is let yourself feel
Christine Hassler:without judgment. And this isn't about identifying with your
Christine Hassler:feelings. This isn't about sitting around and being a
Christine Hassler:victim, victim. Thinking gets us nowhere when we're like, why did
Christine Hassler:this happen to me and my life is so hard? It's not about feeling
Christine Hassler:sorry for ourselves. Sympathy and empathy are very different.
Christine Hassler:Sympathy has pity on it. Empathy and compassion has love and
Christine Hassler:forgiveness and understanding on it. So compassion, if we look at
Christine Hassler:the word, I'm well into the meanings of words. So passion
Christine Hassler:actually means suffering, and CO means with so it's really being
Christine Hassler:with suffering. It's the difference. And we can do this
Christine Hassler:with other people too. It's like how we, you know, in my work
Christine Hassler:with people, when I work with them on the emotional level, if
Christine Hassler:they're experiencing emotion, I don't console them, I don't try
Christine Hassler:to fix them, I don't go in and offer them advice. I just hold
Christine Hassler:this loving, compassionate space for them to feel with no
Christine Hassler:judgment. And learning how to do that for ourselves is key to
Christine Hassler:really overcoming disappointment, because we've
Christine Hassler:got to move through the feeling part.
Host:What are some of the common, like, emotional mistakes
Host:that you see people making over and over again?
Christine Hassler:Yeah, so one I briefly mentioned, which is
Christine Hassler:the victim being a victim. This happened to me. The world
Christine Hassler:happens to me. Like, I'm not going to get through that like
Christine Hassler:and identifying with it. And it even can be subtle, but it's
Christine Hassler:sort of like allowing the emotional level to get to that
Christine Hassler:place of just kind of feeling sorry for yourself and losing
Christine Hassler:hope and losing faith, because that's that's really paralyzing.
Christine Hassler:And the other one, in terms of the other extreme too, is being
Christine Hassler:strong, like I'm not going to feel I'm fine, like I'm just
Christine Hassler:going to push my way through that. And what that does is it
Christine Hassler:perpetuates what we talked about a little bit earlier in terms of
Christine Hassler:that inner critic, like, when we don't allow ourselves to feel
Christine Hassler:we're denying ourselves the truth of our experience, and
Christine Hassler:again, like, in some ways, that's rewarded. Like, how many
Christine Hassler:times have we heard, Oh, you're so strong and being strong is
Christine Hassler:overrated? You know, I'm a big fan of Renee Brown's work on
Christine Hassler:vulnerability. You know, vulnerability is not weakness.
Christine Hassler:It's authenticity. It's being real. It's like, this is really
Christine Hassler:what's happening to me, and this is what you know, I'm willing to
Christine Hassler:learn from it. So that doesn't work. And then distractions,
Christine Hassler:like distracting ourselves from it, and in the ways I mentioned
Christine Hassler:earlier, in terms of I'm going to overwork or I'm going to
Christine Hassler:watch too much TV, I'm just going to numb it out. I'm going
Christine Hassler:to drink more eat or whatever it may be. And then another thing
Christine Hassler:is to the kind of like spiritual bypass and pep talk thing, you
Christine Hassler:know, trying to get to whatever I'm learning and I'm growing,
Christine Hassler:and it's all fine. And it's sort of like being strong with sort
Christine Hassler:of like this positive attitude. And again, that gets rewarded as
Christine Hassler:well. And the key to all this is just not allowing ourselves the
Christine Hassler:authenticity of our. Experience and the truth to feel and know.
Christine Hassler:When I do retreats, can I take people to beautiful destinations
Christine Hassler:and help them overcome their disappointment? Because I'm
Christine Hassler:like, Well, if I can take them to like Costa Rica, maybe
Christine Hassler:they'll be willing to deal with some things in a beautiful
Christine Hassler:environment. And the biggest thing I see is just people you
Christine Hassler:know, are scared. They're just scared to feel. And if we don't
Christine Hassler:feel and the emotional levels is the first part of the treatment
Christine Hassler:plan. Next we have mental, behavioral and spiritually. But
Christine Hassler:you know, the emotional one is where I see the most resistance.
Christine Hassler:And here's the thing, if we don't feel the anger, the shame,
Christine Hassler:the guilt, whatever it is, we don't get to the other side of
Christine Hassler:that. We don't feel all the juicy stuff. We don't feel the
Christine Hassler:love, the joy, the creativity, the connection, you know,
Christine Hassler:especially for women, underneath our anger is our fire and our
Christine Hassler:passion and our zest. So many women suppress anger and they
Christine Hassler:end up irritable and they end up kind of emasculating men and
Christine Hassler:they end up just snippy, and that's not like who we are as
Christine Hassler:women. You know, we're warm and compassionate and loving and
Christine Hassler:creative, but when we suppress this anger, because we've been
Christine Hassler:told that we aren't allowed to be angry, and we don't really
Christine Hassler:have healthy outlets for anger. We're missing out on tapping
Christine Hassler:into our passion and our fire, and it's so important for us to
Christine Hassler:tap into that.
Host:Wow. Expectation Hangover is the title of the book,
Host:Christine. Where do you want people to go to learn about you?
Christine Hassler:Well, you can go to ChristineHassler.com and
Christine Hassler:you can get the book on Amazon, or lots of ways to connect. I
Christine Hassler:love connecting with people, so please reach out.
Host:Awesome. Well, this was super insightful. Thank you for
Host:making some time here, and we wish you the best.
Christine Hassler:Oh, I thank you so much.