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Christine Hassler is a life coach with a counseling

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emphasis known for catalyzing radical self reflection, but

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also while offering practical direction, she has really

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created this roadmap for life and for people of all ages,

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which is kind of about self discovery, self acceptance, self

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forgiveness and clarity. And she is a cum laude graduate of

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Northwestern University, and she also has her master's degree in

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spiritual psychology from the University of Santa Monica. Her

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book is called Expectation Hangover, Overcoming

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Disappointment in Work, Love and Life, and it's really the

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guidebook for how to treat disappointment on the emotional,

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mental, behavioral and spiritual levels. And so Christine, it's

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great to meet you. Thank you for being on the show.

Christine Hassler:

Oh, I'm equally as excited. Thanks for

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having me.

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So can you clarify, like, what exactly is an expectation

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hangover, and how did you kind of come up with that term?

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Yeah. We may love the phrase, but we don't

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like having them. I came up with it after having so many of my

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own. And basically it's when it's disappointment, but how I

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break it down, it's when one of three things happen, either the

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desired outcome or plan or result that you work so hard for

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doesn't happen. Things don't turn out the way you planned. Or

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you get the goal, you have the result, but you don't have the

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feelings you thought you would have from it, like you get this

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great job, and then you're like, Wait, where's the pot of gold at

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the end of the rainbow? Where's the happiness? Or life just

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totally throws you an unexpected curve ball. You lose a job, you

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get sick, someone dies. You know those kind of unexpected curve

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balls. So what I noticed about expectation hangovers is that

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they are similar to hangover symptoms from alcohol, in the

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sense that your head is hurting, maybe not physically, but all

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the thoughts and thinking and obsessing that happens when we

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have an expectation hangover, we just get really in our head. We

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lack motivation. There's a sense of regret. We're spinning and

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confusion. It's just a feeling we want to get over. And people

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really just want to get out of disappointment, and they'll do

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anything to basically not feel it. And what I notice is that

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most people use coping mechanisms that involve

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suppression and numbing, anything from drugs and alcohol

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to overworking really super being busy looking for the next

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best thing. Even in kind of the personal growth community,

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there's something called a spiritual bypass, where people

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just try to jump to the silver lining or meditate their way out

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of it, and don't really feel what's happening. And I'm really

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passionate about helping people leverage disappointment, because

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when we talk about disappointment and change, those

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things are the catalysts that create the most personal growth

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inside of us. You know, most people have their biggest leaps

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when it comes to growth when something kind of surprising or

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bad happens, that's usually what motivates us to do the work that

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really changes our life. And I've noticed that the most

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suffering people have is when their expectations don't meet

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their reality. But there's a real healing opportunity inside

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of that.

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Do you tend to find that the disappointments that we

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have, are they based on expectations that usually come

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from the outside, that people put on us? Or are you talking

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more about expectations that we have, that we created for

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ourselves and then things not living up to them?

Christine Hassler:

It's absolutely both. You know, we

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have the double whammy of expectations, all the societal

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things and checklists that we buy into in terms of our belief

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system, and then this incredible pressure we put on ourselves. I

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noticed that people, especially really intelligent, successful

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people, they motivate themselves by being hard on themselves and

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placing massive expectations. And the tricky, kind of sneaky

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thing about that is, it works, you know, like I used to

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motivate myself by being very hard on myself, and I kind of

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didn't even realize it, you know. And I'm not talking about

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being hard on yourself, like you're a loser, you suck, like

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it's not doesn't have to be that severe, subtle, like you could

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have done that better, or your friends more successful. Or, why

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did you say that? You know, just these subtle things that are

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this critical voice inside of us, and it's effective. You

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know, we get things done that way, but we have these massive

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expectations and standards that A, we may not live up to, and B,

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once we do live up to them, then we consistently keep raising the

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bar. And so when is enough enough? Like, when are we there?

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When do we finally accept ourselves as enough? And that's

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the problem we run into when we live a life driven by

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expectations versus values and vision and really accepting and

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acknowledge our acknowledging ourselves for who we are and the

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unique impact we're here to make.

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How do you balance that? Is there a middle ground that is

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kind of what we're seeking? Or is it something different than

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that?

Christine Hassler:

Yes, so both complacency and overdoing come

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from a place of sort of lack of self love and insecurity and

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trying to compensate for something and not feeling enough

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in some way. You know, we put these high driving standards on

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ourselves because, on some level, we don't feel like we are

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enough and we have something to prove. And on the opposite end

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of the coin, like when we are get complacent and like we stop

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doing. Then again, that's coming from a feeling of like not not

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feeling enough or worthy enough of pursuing our own dreams. So

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at the root of this, really, is our relationship with ourselves

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and how we perceive the world, and how we perceive ourselves in

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that world. So what it comes down to, in terms of that middle

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point, is really investigating, you know, how do we define

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success like, what's our definition of success? Is it

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externally based, or do we have a definition that's more

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intrinsic? And the biggest thing from expectation hangovers that

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I've learned is that it reorientates people, myself

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included, from an outside in perspective to an inside out

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perspective. We start to realize that coming from our own values,

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our own, what I call superpowers rather than expectations, is not

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only more balanced way to live, but it just feels a whole heck

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of a lot better. So it's more of a reorientation and a pivot in

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terms of how we perceive our life and how we take action than

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it is trying to balance between the two I love that, you know,

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we're so destination, obsessed in our world and getting there,

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and it's like, actually, what we truly, you know, enjoy the most,

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if we allow ourselves and stop putting so much pressure on

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ourselves, is the process and what we learn about ourselves

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and the qualities that come out of us while, while we do things

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and and, you know, the feel, because we think We're after

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form, but what we're really after is essence. We're chasing

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feeling more than we are outcome. But because we kind of

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don't know that, and because our society, or even our educational

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system, is so goal based, we lose connection with that. How

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do you want to feel? Let's not worry about the form. You know,

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the universe, God, whatever your spiritual belief system. It

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will, it will take care of that. But if you really focus on the

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feeling of what you want to experience in life, and get an

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energetic alignment with that feeling, then the form takes

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care of itself. I mean, it's people all ask me all the time,

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like, how I've built my career, and it's truly been, you know,

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the work I've done on myself and being really clear about my

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values and what I want to feel, and looking at the things that

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have gotten in my way, limiting beliefs that don't work ways

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I've tried to compensate. You know, in the book, I talk a lot

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about compensatory strategies, and my biggest one was, as I

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mentioned, overachieving. And the reason why that developed is

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because I was teased and bullied a lot as a kid. I had this this

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belief that I was unlikable in some way, something was wrong

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with me. So my life was about proving myself, and that was

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great. You know, as a straight A student, went to great college,

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moved out to Hollywood, because if you're insecure, you move out

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to Hollywood and have this really successful career at a

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young age, was making all this money. And like, it was like,

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when does a happy feeling come in? When does a confident

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feeling come in. And I had a in a year, I had a lot of very

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severe things happen, where I ended up on my knees, kind of

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just going, like, what, what do I do? And had what I call a

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spiritual awakening that wasn't like super it wasn't like this,

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like angels coming down, or anything like that. It was just

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this internal realization of, wow, like all the things I'm

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looking for on the outside, could they possibly be inside of

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me? That was when I, you know, had the pivot. So I think it's

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just like we get So sort of hypnotized by the way we've been

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conditioned. And to me, the process of awakening is really

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about looking at our programming. Because the great

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thing about our brain is it's totally malleable, and we have

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the potential to change it, and to do that, we have to change

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our thoughts, and we have to change our perception. And I

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love one of the definitions of a miracle. It's a change in

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perception. So even if you're in an expectation hangover right

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now, are you willing to bring a miracle mind to it by just

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changing how you look at it?

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Alright, so I want to go back to overcoming

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disappointment for a second. How do we overcome those

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disappointments when they do happen?

Christine Hassler:

Yeah, absolutely, you're going to be

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disappointed, because you are human. We all are human. And the

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thing about the human experience is we learn through contrast.

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That is totally how we learn. And I think that people try to

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avoid, sort of the dark, the disappointment. And I'm all

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about leveraging it and milking it. I remember when I was going

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through my divorce, one of my coaches said to me, Christine,

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milk this for all it's worth. Don't just try to get over it,

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like, really go in because there's there's gold here. And

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that was that was really true. And with so much of the work in

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terms of what became expectation hangover, because it wasn't just

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about healing from the disappointment of the divorce,

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it was everything that that triggered inside of me, and that

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was one of the biggest growth opportunities of my life. And so

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the first thing to answer your question is to move into

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acceptance of it, rather than resisting it, rather than

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judging it, rather than trying to control it, rather than

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trying to change it, accept what is I love a quote from Byron

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Katie, I might be paraphrasing a bit. But it goes basically

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something like, when you argue with reality, you only lose 100%

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of the time. So acceptance is, is not about, Oh, I love it, and

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I have to, you know, have this positive attitude about it. I'm

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not about that, but just going into, all right, this isn't

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ideal, but I'm going to stop fighting. I'm going to accept

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it. And then after acceptance, you move into really letting

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yourself heal and feel on the emotional level. And I'm sort of

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kind of taking you on a little tour of the treatment plan in

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the book, because this is the order that I go in. And what

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I've realized in my own life and working with 1000s of people at

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this point, is people don't like to feel like to feel good. We

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like to avoid the feelings of shame, of anger, of hurt, and

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it's important to feel that emotion is energy in motion. So

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when we suppress emotion, it's like trying to keep a beach ball

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underwater. You know, you can keep it down for a while, but

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eventually it pops up. And it might pop up in the forms of

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irritability or a health concern or like not being able to access

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your intuition, or whatever it may be like that suppressed

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emotion is not good for us, mentally or physically. And so,

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you know, I teach in the book How to release emotion rather

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than recycle it, because most of us don't learn know how to

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process our feelings. We tend to judge it, analyze it, want them

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to go away. And there's ways to release emotion where you find a

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place inside of you that's having the emotion, and you also

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find a place where you have compassion and you just allow

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yourself to feel without any judgment. There's actually a

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process in the book called a temper tantrum technique, where

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I'm sure you've seen a child have a temper tantrum. And the

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thing is, children know how to feel, so if a kid gets upset,

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like you'll see they get upset, they start to cry, then they may

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be yelling and screaming, kicking, and then they kind of

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start to whimper, and they kind of go into that, you know, and

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then they start to slow down, and then they may rock a little

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bit, and they start to soothe themselves, and then they want

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ice cream, and then they're fine. They know how to ride the

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wave of emotions. And as young people and our parents, you

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know, did the best they could, but our emotions were kind of

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interrupted. We were told, shake it off, big boys, don't cry. Or

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we were like, soothes with food or something like that. And

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then, you know, later in life, we try to soothe our emotions by

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eating. So we found these kind of ways to suppress and as

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adults, we have to look at all, right, how do I really release

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my emotion? And so, you know, I basically teach you how to have

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an adult version of a temper tantrum, so that you get the

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emotion up and out. And there's also other techniques, writing

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techniques and things like that, but the key is let yourself feel

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without judgment. And this isn't about identifying with your

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feelings. This isn't about sitting around and being a

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victim, victim. Thinking gets us nowhere when we're like, why did

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this happen to me and my life is so hard? It's not about feeling

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sorry for ourselves. Sympathy and empathy are very different.

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Sympathy has pity on it. Empathy and compassion has love and

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forgiveness and understanding on it. So compassion, if we look at

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the word, I'm well into the meanings of words. So passion

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actually means suffering, and CO means with so it's really being

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with suffering. It's the difference. And we can do this

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with other people too. It's like how we, you know, in my work

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with people, when I work with them on the emotional level, if

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they're experiencing emotion, I don't console them, I don't try

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to fix them, I don't go in and offer them advice. I just hold

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this loving, compassionate space for them to feel with no

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judgment. And learning how to do that for ourselves is key to

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really overcoming disappointment, because we've

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got to move through the feeling part.

Host:

What are some of the common, like, emotional mistakes

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that you see people making over and over again?

Christine Hassler:

Yeah, so one I briefly mentioned, which is

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the victim being a victim. This happened to me. The world

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happens to me. Like, I'm not going to get through that like

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and identifying with it. And it even can be subtle, but it's

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sort of like allowing the emotional level to get to that

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place of just kind of feeling sorry for yourself and losing

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hope and losing faith, because that's that's really paralyzing.

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And the other one, in terms of the other extreme too, is being

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strong, like I'm not going to feel I'm fine, like I'm just

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going to push my way through that. And what that does is it

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perpetuates what we talked about a little bit earlier in terms of

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that inner critic, like, when we don't allow ourselves to feel

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we're denying ourselves the truth of our experience, and

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again, like, in some ways, that's rewarded. Like, how many

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times have we heard, Oh, you're so strong and being strong is

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overrated? You know, I'm a big fan of Renee Brown's work on

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vulnerability. You know, vulnerability is not weakness.

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It's authenticity. It's being real. It's like, this is really

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what's happening to me, and this is what you know, I'm willing to

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learn from it. So that doesn't work. And then distractions,

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like distracting ourselves from it, and in the ways I mentioned

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earlier, in terms of I'm going to overwork or I'm going to

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watch too much TV, I'm just going to numb it out. I'm going

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to drink more eat or whatever it may be. And then another thing

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is to the kind of like spiritual bypass and pep talk thing, you

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know, trying to get to whatever I'm learning and I'm growing,

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and it's all fine. And it's sort of like being strong with sort

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of like this positive attitude. And again, that gets rewarded as

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well. And the key to all this is just not allowing ourselves the

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authenticity of our. Experience and the truth to feel and know.

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When I do retreats, can I take people to beautiful destinations

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and help them overcome their disappointment? Because I'm

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like, Well, if I can take them to like Costa Rica, maybe

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they'll be willing to deal with some things in a beautiful

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environment. And the biggest thing I see is just people you

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know, are scared. They're just scared to feel. And if we don't

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feel and the emotional levels is the first part of the treatment

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plan. Next we have mental, behavioral and spiritually. But

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you know, the emotional one is where I see the most resistance.

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And here's the thing, if we don't feel the anger, the shame,

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the guilt, whatever it is, we don't get to the other side of

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that. We don't feel all the juicy stuff. We don't feel the

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love, the joy, the creativity, the connection, you know,

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especially for women, underneath our anger is our fire and our

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passion and our zest. So many women suppress anger and they

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end up irritable and they end up kind of emasculating men and

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they end up just snippy, and that's not like who we are as

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women. You know, we're warm and compassionate and loving and

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creative, but when we suppress this anger, because we've been

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told that we aren't allowed to be angry, and we don't really

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have healthy outlets for anger. We're missing out on tapping

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into our passion and our fire, and it's so important for us to

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tap into that.

Host:

Wow. Expectation Hangover is the title of the book,

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Christine. Where do you want people to go to learn about you?

Christine Hassler:

Well, you can go to ChristineHassler.com and

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you can get the book on Amazon, or lots of ways to connect. I

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love connecting with people, so please reach out.

Host:

Awesome. Well, this was super insightful. Thank you for

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making some time here, and we wish you the best.

Christine Hassler:

Oh, I thank you so much.