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Welcome to the Peak Revival Podcast.

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My name is Vesna.

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Today I'm gonna talk about the new wellness revolution for women leaders

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from biohacking to body wisdom.

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So biohacking has been trendy for a while and it's definitely gaining momentum.

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I speak to women who are more interested to know bio hacking

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principles, and while a lot of those.

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Principles are great.

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I feel like we ignore a fundamental truth.

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And so by hacking can look like ice baths, extreme fasting, lots of

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supplementation, wearables, you know, the aura ring, which makes you obsessed

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about how much sleep that you have, right?

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like lots of data.

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I don't know if we need all of this data.

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And for women, it feels like another to-do list, right?

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So imagine you've had a busy day, you've got a lot of things to juggle.

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You didn't have a good sleep that night.

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You wake up in the morning and you watch you saying, you know what?

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You probably need to go to bed at four o'clock in the afternoon

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to catch up on a good sleep.

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And that puts you back already, right?

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You're already feeling like, oh, I'm so behind even on that.

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And so I don't know whether we need access to all of that data.

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We did pretty well without it, and I dunno if it's actually helping us.

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The other thing is that it's kind of this idea of Optimisation at all costs.

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Like we are really pushing ourselves to be this optimal being and ignoring the

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body's innate intelligence and the ability to self-regulate and heal ourselves.

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We're not tapping into that more, we're tapping into devices, um,

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which I think is not our superpower.

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I'll be honest.

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So for women that I speak to, it feels like another kind

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of another hustle, right?

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Another thing that they have to do.

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And if I'm not hacking my biology, then I'm falling behind and it's

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easy to get caught up on that.

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So it's another mental load.

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It leads to kind of this idea of perfectionism.

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Feeling that your body is a project to fix and It's turning wellbeing

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into more performance sport.

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And so I see, I speak to women who come to my workshops and they're

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like, I don't know what to eat.

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One person says this and one person says that, and I should be doing

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ketosis or I should be a carnival.

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I'm saying eat carbohydrates.

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Like, and everyone's got the science right.

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And you know, I was listening to someone talk about ketosis the other day, and

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ketogenic diets is something that I did many years ago in my practice, okay.

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20 years ago.

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So it's not anything new and I did it back then.

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And I could see that it was unsustainable for my clients.

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Right?

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And there is, there will be times where ketosis is important for making

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different changes in the body and different changes to health and

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metabolic health and mental health.

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But overall, I saw it that, you know, my, my patients would lose a lot of weight.

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I see them a year later.

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And they'd put most of it back on because it was unsustainable.

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And so I didn't, I didn't like that, you know, all this hard work that they

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did, they weren't able to sustain it.

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So what's the point of it?

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Right?

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And so I was listening to someone talk about ketosis and you know,

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they're like, take this supplement and take that supplement.

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You're electrolytes and you need this, and you need that.

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And I was like, that does not sound like I'm living aligned with

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my body's intelligence, right?

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So at the end of the day, it is confusing to understand what to eat.

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Because there is so much information out there, and I just think that if we are

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taking out major food groups and we're having to supplement back what we've

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taken out, that doesn't make any sense.

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That means that our body needs it, right?

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And we are gonna thrive with it, and then we're gonna rely

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on supplements without it.

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And then we have to look at supplementation on a long-term.

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I'm not big on supplements, right?

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I, if you come through my programs, you'll see that I recommend supplementation,

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herbal medicines for different things.

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It's a periodic thing, gut repair, liver detox, um, sometimes things for mood

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and for stress, but temporary, right?

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the quality of supplements is what concerns me, right?

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So people buy things from the supermarket or wherever, and

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the quality is not quite there.

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And so we could be putting a lot of binders and fillers and other

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excipients into our body and which could have a detrimental effect.

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And so at the end of the day, Nothing is going to replace a good diet.

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Okay?

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And so if you're having to take major food groups out and replace it with

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supplements, you're gonna have to wonder.

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Why you're doing that, right?

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Your body needs those things.

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So why are we replacing that food with something synthetic?

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And the biggest reason why I don't like it is because Biohacking puts a

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emphasis on something outside of you that you need in order to be well.

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Whereas health and wellbeing starts inside, like we have a self-regulated

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system, so you cut your finger or you get a cold or a flu.

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You're not worried about mobilizing the immune system to attack this

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virus or this bacteria or to repair the cut and, and full a clot

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and grow new skin cells, right?

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You're not, you're not focused on that.

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You know that you're immune.

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System is automatic, and that's The intelligence of the body.

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You know, when you go to sleep at night, your brain is actually

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shrinks a bit so it can detoxify.

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It processes emotions.

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Your immune system is detecting any rogue cancer cells, right?

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There is so much happening in our body that, you know, a

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device just cannot do for us.

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And so I think the biggest reason why I don't like biohacking

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is because it takes you away.

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Your focus is no longer on your body's internal.

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Self-regulating system, this hugely intelligent body that we carry around

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all day, but your focus and the direction that you're looking is wearables and that

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I have to do extreme fasting and that, I have to do an ice bath every morning, or I

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have to track my sleep or whatever it is.

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None of those things are bad, right?

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But it's just when we, when all of our focus is there, we, feel like.

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This is another job, right?

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This is another thing on our to-do list that we have to manage.

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And it's not like that, right?

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We came to this earth with a self-regulating system.

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That's wasn't our job.

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We just have to live more aligned with nature.

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you know, there was a really great movie that I watched.

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I was on a plane it was called Wilding.

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And I really recommend that you watch it, a couple in the uk they transformed their

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huge farming property, which had been a farming property for about 200 years.

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So it was this enormous, enormous property.

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And they rewild it, the property, right, because they could see that actually, they

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were destroying the trees and the soil that they had didn't have soil anymore.

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They just had dirt.

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All the micron organism.

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Nothing could live in that soil anymore.

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the whole point of me sharing this story is that the things that happened

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that animals did, as a part of that rewilding, like a bird would pick up

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an, an acorn from an oak tree and, and put it in the middle of a blackberry

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bush so that as it was, going into the soil and growing, it wouldn't

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be eaten by the oth other animals.

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It was protected by the thorny blackberry bush and grew up into an oak tree.

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And when it was stronger and it appeared through, then it was stronger to grow.

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Right?

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they had all of this thistle, which is a pest plant.

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you know, they were very concerned because their neighboring farmers

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were, you know, they were like, this is gonna get us shut down.

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Right?

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And then all of a sudden she woke up one morning and there was

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thousands of butterflies that came.

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And the butterflies.

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They planted their eggs on, the thistle and the caterpillars came out.

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They ate all the thistle.

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Everywhere.

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and then the thistle never came back year after year.

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Right.

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And so there was these really amazing scenarios, right.

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Of the intelligence of nature.

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Right.

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And she was saying that when a cow, gives birth, the first thing she does

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is she goes to eat nettle plants.

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'cause nettle has, is very rich in iron, okay?

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And that's the only time she'll eat nettle is after she's given birth.

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She won't eat it any other time of the year.

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And like I grew up with cows, they don't look very smart to me, but there's an

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intelligence that's guiding them, right?

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And I think that We have lost touch with that intelligence.

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We have lost touch with the intelligence

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within our body,

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the intelligence within our life.

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And nature, if left alone, their strategy was they weren't

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able to do anything right.

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They had to let them roam free.

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Um, find their own food and find their own water.

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Like they were completely untouched and they thrived.

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Right?

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They really thrived and there is an intelligence in nature.

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There is an intelligence in the animal kingdom.

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There's an intelligence in your body because you know that, you know, when

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you go to sleep at night, you know that you are going to breathe while you're

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sleeping and passed out, That your heart's going to pump, that your immune

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system's gonna do what it needs to do.

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And we wanna support those things rather than ignore them, rather than

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thinking that we need something else outside of ourselves to do the job.

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Okay.

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And I think that if we look more towards the intelligence, we get more answers,

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we get more intuition, we get more of a sense of inner knowing of what we need.

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know, sometimes people come to my workshops, my weapon, and they're like,

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one person said, cut out carbohydrates.

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You're saying add them in.

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And I'm like, well.

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Tune into what's right for you.

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that's what I would always say.

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Tune into what's right for you.

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Does it feel right for you to never eat carbohydrates again, to have to

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replace those things with like fruits and vegetables with supplementation?

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Does that seem right?

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And so you've gotta ask yourself those questions and go with

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what resonates with you.

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I'm not against biohacking.

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I've definitely used different tools like glucose monitors, and I've

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got now something for meditation just to check my brainwaves.

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And I use these things temporarily, right?

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For a bit of inside knowledge, but not ongoing, right?

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And so I'm not against them, but I just, I think your body's wisdom

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and body's intelligence is far stronger than any data that you're

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gonna get from one of those apps.

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And if you tune into that direction, you'll have higher levels of health

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and wellbeing and look and feel better than you have in years.